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Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, Brian brought Us and
Speaker 1: bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, March eighth,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, Season eighteen, Episode number one nineteen. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the latest edition of The Break. We are live
Speaker 1: from this of WUBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. Presenter
Speaker 1: by Milla Lake, the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Glad to have my crew in all of us today,
Speaker 1: and we'll spend the next forty five minutes talking to
Speaker 1: you guys about free agency. There's a lot coming up
Speaker 1: here that the cow Boys are gonna have to make
Speaker 1: decisions on. Free agency will begin on March fifteenth. Although
Speaker 1: the period of I'm not gonna call it legal tampering,
Speaker 1: it's just kind of that period where you can start
Speaker 1: flirting a little bit with the players that you might
Speaker 1: be interested in from a free agency standpoint. That begins
Speaker 1: on the thirteenth. It'll run through the fifteenth, and then
Speaker 1: at three pm Central Time, Free Agency will kick off
Speaker 1: today's show. We're going to go through the list of
Speaker 1: free agents and talk a little bit about the guys
Speaker 1: that we think the Cowboys need to make priorities, the
Speaker 1: guys that can just be a nice to have, and
Speaker 1: the guys that maybe you think is just no longer
Speaker 1: a fit. Before we do that, though, I want to
Speaker 1: talk about Tony Pollard. We talked about him at length
Speaker 1: last week and what the Cowboys should do. Since then,
Speaker 1: we've found out they have done something. They put the
Speaker 1: tag on Tony Pollard. I don't think it's a surprise,
Speaker 1: but I wanted to go around the table and just
Speaker 1: get your thoughts on the decision to place the tag
Speaker 1: on Tony Pollard. Brian, you weren't where you want on
Speaker 1: the show last week. I was in Arizona. Watch it
Speaker 1: on the show. Yeah, Yeah, let's give you. Let's go
Speaker 1: first with you, because I know Nick and Amber talked
Speaker 1: a little bit about it lesson. Yeah, you know what,
Speaker 1: I feel like they did what they had to do
Speaker 1: and what they felt like was right for their for
Speaker 1: their offensive attack going forward. You know, we talked about weapons.
Speaker 1: Nick has brought it up numerous times on the show
Speaker 1: about the situation with Pollard. Once he went down in
Speaker 1: the San Francisco game, their offense wasn't the same. And
Speaker 1: so now even with a new you know, primary play caller,
Speaker 1: the head coach being that guy, you know, you got
Speaker 1: to you know, uh, you got that situation where he's
Speaker 1: like thinking, Okay, how am I going to incorporate, how
Speaker 1: am I going to move the ball? What do I need?
Speaker 1: You know, likely losing Dalton Scholtz likely, you know, with
Speaker 1: some of the things you some of the unknowns with
Speaker 1: you know, with Gallup coming back and all that, one
Speaker 1: of the sure things you do know about is what
Speaker 1: Tony Poller can do. Yes, he's coming off the injury.
Speaker 1: But I think it was the right thing for them
Speaker 1: to do. I know, I have my own other thoughts about,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe with the injury, maybe let that one
Speaker 1: ride and see if in fact somebody would come in
Speaker 1: and and you know, take a chance on him, give
Speaker 1: him a contract. But for them, they did what they
Speaker 1: felt like was right. I just I know myself evaluating
Speaker 1: the free agent market or the running backs and then
Speaker 1: also what's going in the college trap. If you were
Speaker 1: to lose Tony Pollard, there are suitable replacements you know,
Speaker 1: maybe you know, maybe comparable to what you have with Tony.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe not, depending on which direction you go.
Speaker 1: But for them, they felt like they had to keep
Speaker 1: that weapon in the building, and you know, you have
Speaker 1: to give them credit for you know, trying to do
Speaker 1: that and be able to you know, to continue to
Speaker 1: try and help dak Age. I think it was the
Speaker 1: right decision, and we've talked about it before. It doesn't
Speaker 1: prevent them from still trying to come up with the
Speaker 1: contract and keep the negotiation negotiations going with him and
Speaker 1: working that out. Um, yeah, we've talked about the injury before.
Speaker 1: That is a concern of mine. And another thing is
Speaker 1: it always makes me a little bit uneasy because I
Speaker 1: feel like anytime you either extend the contract given you
Speaker 1: contract or even place attack anything that involves a new
Speaker 1: amount of money involving a player, there's always that are
Speaker 1: they gonna meet the expectations now? And I know this
Speaker 1: is not the franchise tag does not mean a long
Speaker 1: term contract or anything. This is just for a year.
Speaker 1: But even so, with that injury alone, it does give
Speaker 1: me that kind of worrisome. It's like, is it gonna
Speaker 1: be worth the money? Is it gonna be worth taking
Speaker 1: that risk of having him here and trying to rely
Speaker 1: on him, also not knowing what's gonna end up happening
Speaker 1: with Ezekiel, elliott I said this from the beginning. It's
Speaker 1: hard to imagine a scenario where they do keep both
Speaker 1: guys on the team. So it's just I'm glad it happened,
Speaker 1: and I agree with their decision to place the tag
Speaker 1: on him, but at the same time, there are concerns
Speaker 1: and worries around that decision and how he's gonna be
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, I mean, I think I don't think
Speaker 1: you give the franchise tag to anybody unless you have
Speaker 1: some concerns. I mean, I think I think you have.
Speaker 1: I think that's why you give them the tag. I
Speaker 1: mean because you have concerns, Because if you didn't have concerns,
Speaker 1: you would just sign them to a long term deal
Speaker 1: and meet whatever they're asking for. So either you need
Speaker 1: to see them one more year or you got it,
Speaker 1: or you don't know if you can sign them to
Speaker 1: a long term thing. I mean, I think the Cowboys
Speaker 1: had concerns with Dalton Schultz last year to give him
Speaker 1: the money that you know, David and a Joku got,
Speaker 1: you know, and I don't know if it's worth it,
Speaker 1: you know, And I don't think they thought it's worth it,
Speaker 1: and they still don't think that, you know, for that market.
Speaker 1: But if you look at all the franchise tags, it's
Speaker 1: the cheapest franchise tag of a position player running back.
Speaker 1: It's the most second most important position maybe, but yet
Speaker 1: it's the cheapest one. So there's reason, and you can
Speaker 1: take that argument anyway you want. I just think it
Speaker 1: makes sense this year to do that, and then, as
Speaker 1: Brian says, you still draft someone. But the key about
Speaker 1: drafting and running back is if you go back and
Speaker 1: look at history, and there's examples for everything. First round
Speaker 1: running backs I think do well early because that's why
Speaker 1: you draft them, because they're ready to play right now.
Speaker 1: But I think second, third, fourth, fifth round running backs
Speaker 1: some of them come come in and do well, but
Speaker 1: I think that they needed little development as well. I mean,
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard wasn't ready to kind of take over like
Speaker 1: he is now. So I think I think it works
Speaker 1: out in this case. You still draft some one, second, third,
Speaker 1: fourth round and then you know, they'll be ready to
Speaker 1: go because you don't know what's going to happen with
Speaker 1: Pollard after this, probably won't come back after this. This
Speaker 1: is what I would think would be the last year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is me. I totally agree with what Nick and
Speaker 1: Ambar are saying about this. But the thing is that
Speaker 1: with Pollard I kind of look at this like Dalton Schultz,
Speaker 1: like you're keeping a guy around. They you know, they
Speaker 1: just couldn't get rid of all their weapons when they
Speaker 1: got rid of a Maori Cooper, and we didn't know
Speaker 1: what with Pollard that he was going to emerge like
Speaker 1: he was. There was questions about Gallup. You know, if
Speaker 1: you all of a sudden you let Dalton Schultz walk
Speaker 1: last year and stuff, or just you know, you move
Speaker 1: on from that, well, then you know, it's one of
Speaker 1: those situations where you're kind of in a you know,
Speaker 1: you're like, where's the weapons, who's da going to throw
Speaker 1: the ball to, Who's how they're going to move the ball,
Speaker 1: how they're going to score and all that. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I just think that Pollard it's one of those things
Speaker 1: that you know, I don't think they want to I
Speaker 1: think they've learned something from the Elliott situation. I do
Speaker 1: the league. The league doesn't value running backs like it should.
Speaker 1: But there's gonna be a point in time where you
Speaker 1: know you're gonna have if when you don't have one
Speaker 1: of these guys, it's going to show up in a game.
Speaker 1: You know. Look what Tampa Bay look at their situation
Speaker 1: with Leonard Fournette. It's just he had a similt thing
Speaker 1: about Buffalo. Yeah, it just got to the point where
Speaker 1: when you can't run the ball, you know your your
Speaker 1: offense gets put in peril. And the one thing we
Speaker 1: learned about Pollard is he's capable of taking the snaps
Speaker 1: and being able to function. But I do love this
Speaker 1: these running backs, And again I encourage you to stay
Speaker 1: afterwards and listen to the Draft show because there's a
Speaker 1: lot of them you could talk about, and a lot
Speaker 1: of them that does a lot of the similar things
Speaker 1: that they asked Tony Pollard to do. So let's toss
Speaker 1: that up just as a general question of what comes next,
Speaker 1: because there are lots of offshoots of this move. You know,
Speaker 1: do they do a long term deal with him, Um,
Speaker 1: what's Zeke's future and how does that play into the
Speaker 1: decision to tag Tony Pollard right now. I saw a
Speaker 1: graphic that I think the Cowboys or eight million dollars
Speaker 1: twenty eight million dollars right now dedicated to the running
Speaker 1: back position. I don't think any of us believes are
Speaker 1: going to go into next fiscal year with that being
Speaker 1: the case. But it now put some question marks on
Speaker 1: Zeke's future, talking about what is the effect on the
Speaker 1: draft and should they draft somebody and how high are
Speaker 1: they willing to draft somebody knowing that they have Tony
Speaker 1: Pollard on the tag? And the final thought, what's the
Speaker 1: usage of Tony Pollard next year? If let's assume for
Speaker 1: a second that this does affect what they decide to
Speaker 1: do with with Zeke, and maybe Zeke isn't here. Is
Speaker 1: Pollard a primary bat? Can he take the load of
Speaker 1: a primary back? He can he do the things that
Speaker 1: Zeke was asked to do for a long time his career.
Speaker 1: When you're paying him ten million dollars for a year,
Speaker 1: maybe he needs to all those things. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: toss it up and you guys take it in the
Speaker 1: direction you'd like to take it. Wow Zeke, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the big question, and they got to figure that
Speaker 1: out was Zeke, And I think that me personally, I
Speaker 1: just don't see a scenario that he's here. I don't,
Speaker 1: but I don't know him, what he's trying to do,
Speaker 1: and how much he wants to be here and for
Speaker 1: what price. But I just I can't see that scenario.
Speaker 1: This is a really tricky situation because I don't think
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard is a starting running back. I don't. I
Speaker 1: think he works out the way they have got this
Speaker 1: thing working. I think it works good for him. So
Speaker 1: I would draft another running back, and I think that
Speaker 1: running back would probably be the starter. I think where
Speaker 1: Pollard fits. But you want to say ten million dollars?
Speaker 1: Could you do that? Yeah? You can look how many
Speaker 1: Look at what backup quarterbacks make. They make a lot
Speaker 1: of money, so you can have it as in this
Speaker 1: role like this. But I think I just don't think
Speaker 1: Zeke can be here on this team the way the
Speaker 1: way it's set up. I could be wrong, but that's
Speaker 1: gonna because he's taking a lot less money than I
Speaker 1: think he's ready to do. Explain it to me for
Speaker 1: just a second. When you say you don't think he's
Speaker 1: a starter, are you saying are you talking more about
Speaker 1: the number of reps that he can take, or do
Speaker 1: you or is there a delineation between a starter and
Speaker 1: a backup that you're kind of making No. I think
Speaker 1: he's I mean, I think he's one of the top
Speaker 1: ten fifteen running backs in the league. I think he's
Speaker 1: a he's a he's a top talent. He's definitely that.
Speaker 1: But I like, I mean, I believe in what Skip
Speaker 1: Pete was trying to do last year. I think that
Speaker 1: there's a Zeke comes in and he kind of hammers
Speaker 1: them down, and then Pollard comes in. I don't think
Speaker 1: it works the other way. I don't think that way.
Speaker 1: I don't saying you don't think it starts with the
Speaker 1: speed guy or the lusive guy. You think Pollard's role
Speaker 1: is perfect go and I just there needs to be
Speaker 1: another guy that handles what Zeke did. That's what I think.
Speaker 1: I think there's some football fibbing going on here, not
Speaker 1: with you, but with what the Cowboys are doing right now.
Speaker 1: I think they're talking about the football fibbing. Is Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy's like, we got to run the ball more. I
Speaker 1: think that's football fibbing. And I say that in a way,
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy doesn't have a history of running the football more.
Speaker 1: He just doesn't go back and watch, you know, he's
Speaker 1: I think he's trying to. I think he's trying to
Speaker 1: say that, you know, I'd like to run the ball,
Speaker 1: but he really isn't. He's going to throw the ball.
Speaker 1: So now to me, that that that is that I'm
Speaker 1: okay with that. I feel like, though, you need to
Speaker 1: run the ball better, not more, run the ball better.
Speaker 1: And so that's kind of where I think football fibbing's
Speaker 1: going on here. And you know, with Pollard, I think
Speaker 1: he can run the ball better. I think the more
Speaker 1: opportunities he does get, they'll run the ball better. I
Speaker 1: think having Terrence steal Back at right tackle will will
Speaker 1: run the ball better. You know. I think if you
Speaker 1: add a tight end, a blocking tight end, with the
Speaker 1: tight ends you have, I think you'll run the ball better.
Speaker 1: You know. That's that's kind of where I look at
Speaker 1: with with what I see with Pollard. I think he's
Speaker 1: here to run the ball better. You know, the more
Speaker 1: carries it, just the way he plays, you're going to
Speaker 1: get more yards with him running the football. And so
Speaker 1: I think that's a that's a football fib you just
Speaker 1: need to not run it more. You just need to
Speaker 1: run it better, is what I see. Right. They asked
Speaker 1: this question because I've heard a couple of different people
Speaker 1: with that particular argument, and I think it's coming off
Speaker 1: of what Mike McCarthy said at the combine. I actually
Speaker 1: took it differently when he said that. I didn't take
Speaker 1: it as he was saying the Cowboys need to just
Speaker 1: generally run the ball more. I thought he was talking
Speaker 1: more about specific situations and I thought back the Green
Speaker 1: Bay game. Yeah, I thought back specific games where his
Speaker 1: relationship where the Cowboys. I think he might have looked
Speaker 1: at it and said, hey, I think there were situations
Speaker 1: this year right where we should have been running the
Speaker 1: ball more than we were, not necessarily just overall, we
Speaker 1: need to run more because by the way, they ran
Speaker 1: the ball plenty, like they're one of the one of
Speaker 1: the run heavier teams in the NFL. So I didn't
Speaker 1: take it that way. Is that are you saying? You
Speaker 1: took it kind of as he's saying, just holistically, we
Speaker 1: got to run the ball more than I think. I
Speaker 1: think to me that he was the divide I think
Speaker 1: between him and Kellen Moore caming that day you guys
Speaker 1: were at lambeau Field and they lost that game. That's
Speaker 1: where I felt like right then and there, if you
Speaker 1: want to pinpoint a spot where maybe McCarthy and Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore had their divide, it was that game right there,
Speaker 1: because Mike McCarthy put his heart and soul into wanting
Speaker 1: to win that football game and it didn't happen. And
Speaker 1: and we the next day we came on here and
Speaker 1: talked about, well, they could have done this. It could
Speaker 1: have ran it here. They could have you know, they
Speaker 1: could protected the lead. Dada da da da. I think
Speaker 1: that's where we saw the end of Kellen Moore and
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy's relationship, right And that could fit with Mike.
Speaker 1: And that's the xampoint. If you want to try to
Speaker 1: run up the scoreboard, when that's your point, be running
Speaker 1: the ball, that's your point. I I, like I said,
Speaker 1: I think that's a I think that's a fib. I
Speaker 1: think he wants to run the ball better, is what
Speaker 1: I how I take it. And I also the whole
Speaker 1: thing with like Nick talking about I think it's a
Speaker 1: fib about Zeke being here. I think that's a fib.
Speaker 1: I think that's a football fib I don't think there's
Speaker 1: any way that he that he can be here, you know,
Speaker 1: I think that they move on. They talk about, well,
Speaker 1: they'd like to have it, but I see this. I'd
Speaker 1: see this ending like it did for DeMarcus Ware and
Speaker 1: for ter Arrol Owens and for uh, you know, for
Speaker 1: you know, pretty much everybody. Yeah, there's an express being
Speaker 1: a player in the NFL. They talk about wanting to
Speaker 1: keep guys and stuff like that, but they're going I
Speaker 1: agree with Nick, I believe they're going to move on
Speaker 1: from Zeke. I really really do. I think these are
Speaker 1: these are things that you kind of look at and
Speaker 1: you say, well, they're they're telling us this, but in actuality,
Speaker 1: this I think is what's going to happen. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: love I absolutely love Zeke, and I would personally like
Speaker 1: for him to stay here. But again, I just like
Speaker 1: all of you guys, I don't see a scenario where
Speaker 1: he just works out financially for the Cowboys. UM. I
Speaker 1: do know that regardless of how much you want to
Speaker 1: throw the ball or not, you do need to establish
Speaker 1: the run. You need to create that balance. And we've
Speaker 1: we've seen it before when Dakney's that kind of help
Speaker 1: as well. And going back to Tony Paul or whether
Speaker 1: he can be the starter or not. I agree with
Speaker 1: Nick on this one, like I personally only do not
Speaker 1: see him just taking on the full load. And we
Speaker 1: saw it just how well it worked, kind of bouncing
Speaker 1: it out between the two types of running back just
Speaker 1: because of what each brings to the table and that
Speaker 1: the other cannot doesn't necessarily do it as good. We
Speaker 1: saw how many times like you needed Zeke to be
Speaker 1: able to just go out there and block and block,
Speaker 1: just those like nasty little runs, one yard runs things
Speaker 1: like that that Tony Polar just physically doesn't have that
Speaker 1: type of ability and and just like that, they can't
Speaker 1: run and escape the way that Polar can right now.
Speaker 1: So it's just a tough balance. But I do think
Speaker 1: that they go into the draft. It does make me
Speaker 1: wonder though, if they head into the draft just having
Speaker 1: Tony Polar and Malick Davis, or if they just kind
Speaker 1: of sign somebody else to have them there. You know
Speaker 1: how sometimes they just sign get to make it look
Speaker 1: like it's not like a top priority, and then they
Speaker 1: do still draft somebody. So I can see something happening,
Speaker 1: maybe like a signing somebody that's not necessarily go trade
Speaker 1: for Derrick Henry if you want from Tennessee. No, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna. I'm not gonna talk about him away from that,
Speaker 1: but um only talk about our guys, Brian, Okay until
Speaker 1: free agency opens up and then you it's a trade
Speaker 1: from that one. And just to be clear, this is
Speaker 1: like we are not the football side of them. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: just conjectur, just talk. We're not tampering. No, we're not tampering.
Speaker 1: Not tampering it tampering. I did have this question because
Speaker 1: you guys mentioned this, Nick you mentioned as well, Amber
Speaker 1: mentioned it about the running backs and him being kind
Speaker 1: of that starting role. Did you think in the game
Speaker 1: where it was him and Malik Davis that things functioned
Speaker 1: as you wanted them to function at and and at
Speaker 1: optimal level for Tony when he had I mean, Mollie
Speaker 1: Davis was another back, Tony was the starter, Tony was
Speaker 1: the guy that was the primary back. Did you think
Speaker 1: did you like that or did you think there was
Speaker 1: still something missing in that game? Well, the victory was
Speaker 1: missing in that game. I mean that they lost and
Speaker 1: they lost and not necessarily think it was because the Pollard.
Speaker 1: But but I think it's all about running the ball
Speaker 1: when you when you want to, and running the ball
Speaker 1: when you have to, and when you have to run
Speaker 1: the ball at the end of the game and you
Speaker 1: can't get that. Um. You know, I do think that
Speaker 1: that there's part of that UM Like like Amber said
Speaker 1: that they they complimented each other perfectly. I mean some
Speaker 1: Zeke scored twelve touchdowns and most of them down there
Speaker 1: by the goal line, and so I don't think Pollard
Speaker 1: gets twelve more touchdowns if he's the guy doing it.
Speaker 1: He just doesn't. I mean, go look at the Washington games.
Speaker 1: He doesn't run against that. Um. Not that many teams do,
Speaker 1: but I mean that they're not built that way. He's
Speaker 1: not built that way. He needs another back and so
Speaker 1: that somebody else needs to compliment him, and it just
Speaker 1: needs to be at some something less than sixteen million
Speaker 1: a year. But um, I just I just feel like
Speaker 1: the role that Pollard has, I wouldn't change it. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't change it by running him. I mean he needs
Speaker 1: to maybe run the ball more, but not necessarily to
Speaker 1: the point of he's the starter. He gets the first
Speaker 1: two series and then we'll see what happens. I think
Speaker 1: that they got to be creative with it and doing
Speaker 1: it every week, because I remember there were staying games
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, I've seen Pollard. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: can't remember exactly why game. We're like you have. Maybe
Speaker 1: Zeke wasn't playing the whole game. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it was just a couple of games. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: remember being like, Okay, it wasn't terrible, but I don't
Speaker 1: feel confident that Polar can do this week to week.
Speaker 1: So it's just one of those things that he's a
Speaker 1: talented guy, but I think he would reduce the spark
Speaker 1: that he has if he had to. Kind of He
Speaker 1: surely didn't. He surely didn't do it against the Commanders.
Speaker 1: You know that game the two worst rushing games he
Speaker 1: had at the season. We're against the Commanders, and if
Speaker 1: you want to use that as your benchmark, the Commanders
Speaker 1: played great run defense. As I say, it's not a
Speaker 1: lot of runners that are. So that's that's what I'm saying. Though,
Speaker 1: if you're if you're trying to say, well, listen, where
Speaker 1: where was he productive against? Who was he productive? What
Speaker 1: style of defense was he productive? Against and to your point,
Speaker 1: a defense that has a lot of physicality to it
Speaker 1: might not be the best thing for Tony Pollard to
Speaker 1: have to deal with, you know, so they need to
Speaker 1: think about other options there for sure. Yeah, the game
Speaker 1: I was talking about was that Green Bay game. He
Speaker 1: had twenty two carries for one hundred and fifteen yards
Speaker 1: and a touchdown. Malique Davis supplemented that with five carriages
Speaker 1: or thirty eight yards or seven point six average. So again,
Speaker 1: it wasn't the same balance as what you saw between
Speaker 1: him and Zeke. It was more, Hey, we're putting the
Speaker 1: load on Tony. We'll let him get spelled by by
Speaker 1: Malique Davis. And to your point, Amber, maybe he can.
Speaker 1: Maybe he can't be a guy that can sustain that
Speaker 1: for an entire seventeen game. See, I mean they didn't
Speaker 1: lose that game because of that. They made one stop
Speaker 1: on fourth or nine. Not only did they win, they
Speaker 1: blow him out. So that's just kind of the way
Speaker 1: that game. But but but you also can look at it.
Speaker 1: In the fourth quarter, it's all right, you have a lead,
Speaker 1: you know that there's ways where you can kind of
Speaker 1: run the ball, and that's just and that you're right
Speaker 1: that might be the game that he's looking at it.
Speaker 1: If you if you asked me, if you said, Brian,
Speaker 1: pinpoint a spot where you think there it was the
Speaker 1: divide between the two that was the one I would
Speaker 1: point to. And quite frankly, I think that's a fair thing.
Speaker 1: And that's again why I assumed when when That's why
Speaker 1: I assumed when when Mike McCartney said that that he
Speaker 1: was talking specifically about games or moments in games more
Speaker 1: so than the full totality of running the ball throughout
Speaker 1: the season. We're gonna take our first break and we
Speaker 1: come back. We're gonna jump into free agency. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: run down this list of free agents. These guys are
Speaker 1: gonna tell you whether they think they should be here
Speaker 1: or shouldn't be here. We'll do that when we come
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Speaker 1: As I said earlier in the show, next week, next
Speaker 1: Monday will become the period will open where teams can
Speaker 1: start to talk to potential free agents. On Wednesday, March fifteenth,
Speaker 1: at three pm Central, free agency will officially begin. Cowboys
Speaker 1: have a whole list of guys that are not I mean,
Speaker 1: these were pretty guy, These were guys that contributed quite
Speaker 1: a bit to the Cowboys last year that will be
Speaker 1: free agents this year. Presumably not presumably we know they
Speaker 1: will be because the Cowboys have used attack on Tony Pollitt,
Speaker 1: which means all these other guys will have the ability
Speaker 1: to hit free agency unless the Cowboys do a deal
Speaker 1: with them before free agency begins. So we're gonna go
Speaker 1: down the list. I got three options for you, guys.
Speaker 1: I want you to give me one of these for
Speaker 1: each player. Is he a priority you think the cow
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking from your perspective, not necessarily how you
Speaker 1: think the cow Alays play it, but from your perspective,
Speaker 1: is it a priority guy you need to resign. Is
Speaker 1: it a guy that's a nice to have if you
Speaker 1: can make the deal work, then go for it. Or
Speaker 1: is it a guy that's no longer a fit you're
Speaker 1: good with just moving on? All right, let's start first
Speaker 1: with Dalton Schultz. I mean, I'm gonna have a hard
Speaker 1: time saying anybody's a priority. So I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'll say that number one level for anybody nice to have? Yeah,
Speaker 1: nice to have. I'm not gonna I wouldn't push anybody
Speaker 1: out the door because Layton vander Esho proved that last
Speaker 1: year that you know, you think so you think that's
Speaker 1: what his market is, or he thinks it that's his market,
Speaker 1: and then it comes back and it's not. And then
Speaker 1: you're like, well, you know, here's a guy that that
Speaker 1: trust and he can you know, he's gonna throw the
Speaker 1: ball to him and he'll catch it and he's not
Speaker 1: gonna make a lot of plays, but he'll make some.
Speaker 1: So it'd be nice to have. But I mean, it
Speaker 1: would only have to be week two of free agency
Speaker 1: win his market, you know, and if that's the case,
Speaker 1: he's going to be salty year. Or I kind of
Speaker 1: feel like we Dalton Schultz seas in an interesting situation
Speaker 1: because he's a good player, but a really good tight
Speaker 1: end draft And so to Nick's point, do you get
Speaker 1: a great deal of money being on the market when
Speaker 1: teams know that they could draft a tight end who
Speaker 1: has a similar skill sets? I think you could go
Speaker 1: through probably four rounds of draftable players and get the
Speaker 1: guys that have similar sets. Athletes you know, play well,
Speaker 1: flexed or outside, catch the ball, well, maybe not great blockers.
Speaker 1: He kind of falls into that mode where people could go,
Speaker 1: listen to get one of these guys in the fourth round,
Speaker 1: or do I give Dalton Schultz ten twelve million dollars?
Speaker 1: So to Nick's point, I mean, I could see somebody
Speaker 1: coming in and you know, swooping in and grabbing him.
Speaker 1: But I also feel like there's a lot of guys
Speaker 1: that have very similar skill sets to him in this draft.
Speaker 1: Would he come back on a one year kind of
Speaker 1: a thing? I think that's probably unrealistic, but it's an
Speaker 1: interesting thought. I'm not really really guy in last year's
Speaker 1: draft in the fourth round and see if that could
Speaker 1: work out like a Ferguson. Yeah, well go ahead, Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say, like I think it
Speaker 1: to me personally changed the situation on how I view him.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's still a time to player, but knowing
Speaker 1: that you got two guys Hender Shot and then Ferguson,
Speaker 1: and they both did pretty well. Honestly they I guess
Speaker 1: maybe my expectations were a lot lower and they just
Speaker 1: ended up playing better than I thought. But knowing that
Speaker 1: you had two guys that were able to get the
Speaker 1: job done as well and be even at times, I
Speaker 1: guess it was the whole time when it was Cooper
Speaker 1: Rush Schultz just completely disappear and you wearing really the
Speaker 1: ball wasn't getting to him. But anyway, my point is
Speaker 1: that I feel that the Cowboys can make it work
Speaker 1: without him now. So that's that's where it's at right now.
Speaker 1: It's not like you got nobody behind him that you're
Speaker 1: just have a bunch of question marks. You still have
Speaker 1: two guys, and that doesn't mean you wouldn't draft somebody too,
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just don't see it as a priority.
Speaker 1: I think it was very telling. This was not a
Speaker 1: football fib. I don't think the owner and general manager
Speaker 1: told you know, he started talking about Kelsey in Kansas
Speaker 1: city and that having that kind of weapon, and when
Speaker 1: you got a guy that, you know, maybe they didn't
Speaker 1: think that of Dalton Schultz, you know, they feel like that.
Speaker 1: You know what, Yeah, it's a great it's great when
Speaker 1: you can get a guy with this Kelsey guy, you know,
Speaker 1: and stretch the field and do this and do that
Speaker 1: and be dynamic, you know it. His thoughts, obviously from
Speaker 1: the front office perspective, is that Dalton Schultz wasn't that guy.
Speaker 1: You know. They to Nick's point again about the you
Speaker 1: know that you see in a year, you see in
Speaker 1: a year what you have, and you know, they probably
Speaker 1: look at that and it's like, you know what, we've
Speaker 1: got two young guys. We'll move on from this guy,
Speaker 1: and we got a whole draft that we can we
Speaker 1: can work with. All right. Yeah, I wouldn't move on
Speaker 1: from Schultz because of Ferguson, but I would because of
Speaker 1: Ferguson and Hendershot. Hendershot's to come there. He's the one
Speaker 1: that's the wild card that you didn't expect, and you know,
Speaker 1: he can move on and Ferguson's gonna be franchise. They
Speaker 1: might have a chump point. I mean, just look at
Speaker 1: the franchise tag. The last four years, it's been a
Speaker 1: fourth round pick every year, so so it's just coming
Speaker 1: that's in his future. Yea. They might be in a
Speaker 1: situation too, where they were the at twenty six. The
Speaker 1: best player on their board might be one of these
Speaker 1: tight ends, which is you know, it's people cringe to
Speaker 1: think about, but it might be to the vision to
Speaker 1: what the general manager was saying on that bus the
Speaker 1: other day, Yeah, that's the point for me. If you're
Speaker 1: gonna use that high a pick, you better make sure
Speaker 1: he's the Kelsey type. Well, he can't be, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: the Dalton Schultz type. He's got to get on the field.
Speaker 1: He's got to be a guy that immediately gets on
Speaker 1: the field, right, But he also has to be a
Speaker 1: guy in my opinion, that you can move around and
Speaker 1: do different things with that becomes a nightmare for other
Speaker 1: teams to match up with. That's where it's worth it
Speaker 1: to make it a first round pick. The one thing
Speaker 1: this team has proven their draft thoughts is they would
Speaker 1: rather have the first or the second best at a
Speaker 1: position than they would the fifth or sixth. You know,
Speaker 1: when we say, oh, they need a corner, well do
Speaker 1: they want the fifth corner or they want the second
Speaker 1: best guard in the draft. You know that that's their
Speaker 1: Their mode is we'll take the first best, we'll take
Speaker 1: the best player, and then we'll work from there. And
Speaker 1: it works for them. All right, Let's move on to
Speaker 1: Terrence Terrence Steele Nick, Well, um, I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: I mean that one. I guess I would say, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't expect him on your list. So yeah, I would
Speaker 1: say that he's got to be a priority on that
Speaker 1: because he's a restricted free agent. I would probably give
Speaker 1: him the first round tender, but I don't know I would,
Speaker 1: you know, I think that I would, But they probably
Speaker 1: feel like with the second round tender, you can you
Speaker 1: can get get by with him. The gamble they have
Speaker 1: here is if he was it hurt, you would probably
Speaker 1: first round tender him because again, you know, when you
Speaker 1: start to compare who's in the you know who's in
Speaker 1: the draft, you know the tackle group, it's a it's
Speaker 1: a it's not as deep as it's been the last
Speaker 1: few years. But if he was, with him being injured
Speaker 1: and coming off an injury, I could see why they
Speaker 1: did the second round tender on him. I totally get
Speaker 1: I think the priority is to get him done. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's I don't think he's I don't think
Speaker 1: he's gonna play on the on the tender tag, I don't.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna They're gonna try and find a
Speaker 1: way to get this done. I would say, then in
Speaker 1: that case, he's a priority for sure. Absolutely. Um. I
Speaker 1: mean and even then, even by signing him and getting
Speaker 1: something done with him, you still have other issues in
Speaker 1: the old line, you know, even at the tackle position.
Speaker 1: So uh, definitely get him back here. And he's a
Speaker 1: guy that, honestly, he's done everything you've wanted him to do,
Speaker 1: and maybe not at first in our perspective, but he's
Speaker 1: worked so hard and he's improved over and over. You know,
Speaker 1: he's trending upwards, and that's exactly what you look for
Speaker 1: in a guy. I hope, I hope the growth continues
Speaker 1: with the new line coach, because him and Joe Philban
Speaker 1: clearly had a good connection, all right. Connor McGovern nice
Speaker 1: to have. Yeah, I think they would like to have
Speaker 1: him back, but I think he's a nice to have.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a priority he's got. He's got
Speaker 1: to see the market and I think his agent will
Speaker 1: let that happen to you know, anybody that signs at
Speaker 1: this point, he's gonna be. To be honest, he's going
Speaker 1: to be this year's Connor Williams. He's gonna go to
Speaker 1: Miami and get a starting job and get too much money,
Speaker 1: and they're they're not going to be able to match that. Well.
Speaker 1: The fact is, if if, if what they're saying about
Speaker 1: Tyren Smith, if they want him back and they want
Speaker 1: to have him in the building, if that's all true,
Speaker 1: Connor McGovern isn't even gonna be a starter. We wouldn't
Speaker 1: think because you would assume that means dad Tyler Smith
Speaker 1: will be playing guard. So maybe another sports football fib
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see. You know, that's part of right
Speaker 1: now that looked like you'd want him to. He had
Speaker 1: some injuries, but he's just he's he's never gonna be
Speaker 1: a guy when you're sitting there in the draft and
Speaker 1: you're like, whoa, we could take this guy right now,
Speaker 1: no one's gonna be like whoa, WHOA, whoa we have McGovern.
Speaker 1: He's never gonna be that this guy that stopped you
Speaker 1: are always gonna try to get it it's gonna I
Speaker 1: see it as one of those situations that if it's
Speaker 1: not McGovern, the Cowboys are still gonna get a free
Speaker 1: agent kind of like that, but from somewhere else, and
Speaker 1: maybe they get it cheaper that way. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I think it's just it's gonna be about it's
Speaker 1: it's a thin draft at guard. He might get some play.
Speaker 1: That's why I kind of feel the draft just because
Speaker 1: the draft, I kind of feel like veteran guy that
Speaker 1: could play center. Also, there there's gonna be a value.
Speaker 1: That's why Cities this year's Connor Williams. You know, that's
Speaker 1: why Cooper Rush. Well, there's a lot of silence here.
Speaker 1: I thought that would be one that you guys would
Speaker 1: be pretty to jump on. For other reasons. I would
Speaker 1: make it a priority. I would. I would think I
Speaker 1: was talking about um other stuff. No, I think he
Speaker 1: know I would. I would. I'd bring him back. I think.
Speaker 1: I mean I would bring him back for you know,
Speaker 1: if you can. I mean, because he's won games. He's
Speaker 1: won games for you so he's probably got the best
Speaker 1: record of pretty much any backup quarterback you know in
Speaker 1: the league the last few years. So I can't imagine.
Speaker 1: I mean, and I think he works well with Dak.
Speaker 1: We talked about Dak having different voices, and he will
Speaker 1: have a different voice in some regards. But I think
Speaker 1: that that Cooper Rush is a guy that works well
Speaker 1: with him and they know how to win games with him.
Speaker 1: So I would I think he's a priority. I really do.
Speaker 1: And I say this in a way because he came
Speaker 1: in and was you know, you mentioned it, won the games.
Speaker 1: You know, they they they had to adapt to him.
Speaker 1: They adapted the offense, they did what they you know,
Speaker 1: everything they needed to do. He kept him in the
Speaker 1: sea every we were all doom and glooming, and he
Speaker 1: won games. And so you're probably gonna battle the you know,
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers on him. You know, where does
Speaker 1: that number come? But if you're if you're Cooper Rush,
Speaker 1: you have a legitimate right to stand there and say
Speaker 1: you need to pay me. You need to pay me
Speaker 1: to be a backup here. I saved your damn season
Speaker 1: last year, you know, And so I I think he
Speaker 1: should be a priority because I don't know what the
Speaker 1: alternative is here. The alternative probably is Will Greer could
Speaker 1: be Will Greer, absolutely, but but I've seen Cooper Rush
Speaker 1: win games, and I didn't believe that. But in this
Speaker 1: in this system, and maybe a new system will be different,
Speaker 1: but I would I would try and make him a
Speaker 1: priority for for sure. Yeah. I've been here where I've
Speaker 1: seen Brandon Weedon kill him more Castle Castle. Um, what's
Speaker 1: that other guy's name be Nucci? Benda Nucci? But the
Speaker 1: one that oh my Mark Sanchez. Uh yeah, So some point.
Speaker 1: The point is I've been here where I've seen enough
Speaker 1: backups not being able to do much when they needed to.
Speaker 1: Just one that Okay, he became his harder, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: point is stop it, um no, But now it feels
Speaker 1: like when you do find somebody backup, you need to
Speaker 1: hold on to that person because you haven't had much
Speaker 1: success having like backups that can truly just be there
Speaker 1: and help you out. And what happened this year so
Speaker 1: games exactly, and so it just goes back to I
Speaker 1: don't know what the money looks like, but if it
Speaker 1: works out, absolutely all right, We're gonna take our our
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Speaker 1: free agents. They just keep coming. Noah Brown, what do
Speaker 1: you do with Thoah Brown? Move on? Probably? I think
Speaker 1: you didn't have any of those, but you good with
Speaker 1: this one, like just saying just doesn't fit anymore. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know who his real sponsor was, and I
Speaker 1: don't know if his sponsor is still here. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know if his Jason was a sponsor or,
Speaker 1: Kellen was a sponsor or both. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I mean he's had one and he's been for dak dassn't.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm just saying I think he's
Speaker 1: probably still going to count the minimum. I can't imagine,
Speaker 1: you know. And so Noel Brown is fine if he's
Speaker 1: the fifth receiver. It's not okay if he's the second
Speaker 1: or third, and you know, and for some reason, it
Speaker 1: just kind of just pisses you off when it's third
Speaker 1: and eight and he's over the middle and there's double
Speaker 1: coverage or he's covered and they throw it and he
Speaker 1: doesn't catch it, and you're like, even though he's made
Speaker 1: some plays, You're just like, is that who you have
Speaker 1: to You have to force him. You need you need
Speaker 1: Jalen Tilbert to grow up. Yeah, you need Jalen Tilbert.
Speaker 1: You need to push Jalaln Tilbert out there and say listen,
Speaker 1: sink or swim, here we go. We can't talk about
Speaker 1: other teams right now. I can't talk. Okay, So I
Speaker 1: had an idea, but I'm not going to talk about that.
Speaker 1: I can assume which time I know where you're going
Speaker 1: with because because they'll admit, they'll admit they messed up.
Speaker 1: They'll admit this that they messed up. So anyway, but
Speaker 1: think about that, Um, maybe it's something you can do.
Speaker 1: Can talk about Odell being here. If O'Dell's going to
Speaker 1: be here, well that to me, okay, real quick on
Speaker 1: that one, and no, get through your list another day
Speaker 1: on Hodel, another day on Ode because actually, you're right,
Speaker 1: I do want to I do actually want to get
Speaker 1: to that in a longer more we can dive into
Speaker 1: that when we start talking about that, and next week
Speaker 1: will be an appropriate running out of Wednesdays. I mean
Speaker 1: like next Wednesday. I mean it'll be in the middle
Speaker 1: of and by the way, we still got all these
Speaker 1: the composition stuff that we had. We got a lot
Speaker 1: we got to do in the next seven. I don't
Speaker 1: have much to say about that. It's the same as
Speaker 1: you guys said, I got the memo. I did get
Speaker 1: the memo. I did read the memo. I'm sorry, Thank you.
Speaker 1: T Y Hilton. Listen to to seven every day on
Speaker 1: the fan. We'll get that. T Why Hilton. He was
Speaker 1: an interesting one because he came in. Yeah, and he
Speaker 1: had some plays that were like whoa, Okay, but he's
Speaker 1: an age and you know, as the season wore on,
Speaker 1: I don't know that you could say he was a
Speaker 1: reliable regular contributor in that way. What do you think
Speaker 1: about t Y Hilton. I'm moving on there again. You
Speaker 1: get Turpin. I'm trying to figure out ways to develop
Speaker 1: him a little bit better. There. T Y Hilton did
Speaker 1: what exactly what she needed him to do. I mean
Speaker 1: I thought he would come. He made some really good
Speaker 1: early plays, helped you win a game too with some
Speaker 1: long plays, drew some pass interference calls. But you know,
Speaker 1: I've got guys like Turpin. You know, maybe maybe that
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore didn't want to use Turpin. Let's see if
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy will use him. Yeah, I don't know where
Speaker 1: his t Y Hilton's mindset is. You know, he came
Speaker 1: in and admitted that he waited until the season was
Speaker 1: over for his kids to play sports and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: his bank account a little. Yeah, so then he was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: now I'm ready to help and I'll sign with this
Speaker 1: team because you guys are have a good record and
Speaker 1: all that. And it worked. He did a nice job
Speaker 1: and he helped some of the young guys. But I
Speaker 1: don't know, is he wanting to do training camp and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Would I would probably move on. He's
Speaker 1: probably gonna be a rental player for another team, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah at that same time of year. Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: a fan of having guys can just sprinkle things here
Speaker 1: and there. Occasionally those type of players like he worked
Speaker 1: out last year towards the end of the season, that
Speaker 1: you're struggling and okay, let's bring someone in and that
Speaker 1: they can't help in certain situations, and at least if
Speaker 1: they make one or two catches, that's gonna just take
Speaker 1: the game too closer to where you win a game.
Speaker 1: But for this point of the year, that's not the
Speaker 1: type of guy I'm looking for. I need a guy
Speaker 1: that can give me everything that I need, full one
Speaker 1: hundred percent, not just twenty percent or ten percent. I think,
Speaker 1: I think to me, I call those band aid players.
Speaker 1: Most people don't wear band aids unless you're Derek Chiefs
Speaker 1: from Missouri back in the day. Remember Nellie, Yeah, Nellie,
Speaker 1: look at Brian. Most people don't do that. You put
Speaker 1: a band aid on when you need a band aid,
Speaker 1: just wear. I'm just a fare him, and so I
Speaker 1: think when Nellie a band aid, if you can sign him,
Speaker 1: you know, he's a free agent. Probably Nellie. Did he
Speaker 1: play football? I don't know, why would you did? I
Speaker 1: think there's a movie he was in a movie? Yea, yeah,
Speaker 1: that wasn't he in the Last Yard? I think it was? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he's in the long He made plays a player.
Speaker 1: He wasn't Michael, you know, but he made some plays
Speaker 1: for Adam. Sure, why not? All right, let's let's swept
Speaker 1: to the deep inside the ball. And actually, this is
Speaker 1: interesting because there are five names, and I know we
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of times that they're five names
Speaker 1: here that you could make an argument that any one
Speaker 1: of the fives, for whatever purposes you want, is an
Speaker 1: important part of what the Cowboys did last year. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw the five names out there, and I
Speaker 1: want you guys to run through them and tell me priority,
Speaker 1: let him walk or nice to have Layton vander Esh
Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson, Jonathan Hankins, Carlos Watkins, and Anthony Brown. Okay,
Speaker 1: everybody but Anthony Brown on matlist for me is a
Speaker 1: like to have back kind of guy, not priority, just
Speaker 1: like to have like to have back on those guys.
Speaker 1: I would absolutely Donovan Wilson to me, and you could
Speaker 1: talk to people in the organization. The coaching staff absolutely
Speaker 1: loves Donovan Wilson. But we're paying you know, we're paying
Speaker 1: two thousand and six prices for safeties here, you know,
Speaker 1: so that I don't think that's gonna work out. I
Speaker 1: think Donovan Wilson again a pretty deep safety draft. Will
Speaker 1: see how if he could circle back, But I think
Speaker 1: he's asking for a lot more than the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: willing to pay, but I'd love to have him back.
Speaker 1: He him. Everybody that you mentioned in that pocket of people,
Speaker 1: with the exception of Anthony Brown, I was really wrong
Speaker 1: about him. Yeah, the Brown you're putting him were like,
Speaker 1: as we're gonna move, We're gonna Yeah, he was not
Speaker 1: playing well and so I'm gonna try and get better
Speaker 1: at corner there. I'm gonna try, especially with the injury.
Speaker 1: Coming off the injury he's got. Um yeah, nice to
Speaker 1: have for all of them. With Donovan Wilson, I have
Speaker 1: to just go off of Dan Quinn and say, all right,
Speaker 1: you did it with Jron Curse, you did it with
Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson. You're gonna have to do it again. This
Speaker 1: is why we're paying you what we're paying you, and
Speaker 1: you work your magic on another safety that you know
Speaker 1: you have the vision for. Unless he unless he just
Speaker 1: wants to play here, but he's gonna probably want more money.
Speaker 1: He's gonna want he wants a lot more money. The
Speaker 1: whispers coming out of Indianapolis is they're not even close
Speaker 1: on this, and that's and that's fine. I mean, like
Speaker 1: like you would probably just move on and let's say,
Speaker 1: all right, you know, you've got Malie Cooker, You've got
Speaker 1: Jayron Curse. You're gonna have to find some other safeties.
Speaker 1: You got some other young safeties too, you like in
Speaker 1: Mquamu and stuff like that. You know, I think you
Speaker 1: move on there if it doesn't work. I'm interested to
Speaker 1: see how the draft is split as far as like,
Speaker 1: is it more on offense or defense or kind of
Speaker 1: half and half you can get from on your safeties.
Speaker 1: From the second round through the fifth round, there's probably
Speaker 1: ten names, and there's in each position, whether it's a
Speaker 1: strong safety or free safety. So it's a good pocket
Speaker 1: from rounds two through say rounds five, where you can
Speaker 1: grab a safety that has that has not somewhat maybe
Speaker 1: at the top more of a similar skill set to Wilson.
Speaker 1: As you get down to the bottom, it's more guys
Speaker 1: that cover is what you got into draft. So there's
Speaker 1: a pocket of safeties. It's not like it's say, like
Speaker 1: the guard group I think is really narrow to what
Speaker 1: you can get. I think the safety stretches a little
Speaker 1: bit more. If you want to let him walk question,
Speaker 1: I know we have to end the show, but real quick,
Speaker 1: you know how we always talk about how the Coweys
Speaker 1: don't necessarily make splash in free agency and they typically
Speaker 1: sign their own. But what a signing like Done and
Speaker 1: Wilson would would you consider that, oh, they made a splash,
Speaker 1: they will have the sounds like they may have to
Speaker 1: because of the amount of money he's asking. And quite frankly,
Speaker 1: the part that I think should be considered a little
Speaker 1: bit more with Donovan Wilson, to me, I don't even
Speaker 1: look at him as just a safety outside of Micah.
Speaker 1: Give me another defensive player that made more plays for
Speaker 1: this defense last season, and I'm talking just a playmaker.
Speaker 1: He's a guy that I think without him, you're not
Speaker 1: just missing a safety, you're missing a guy who made plays.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, do you have somebody that's gonna
Speaker 1: fill in that role? Is jay Ron Kurs gonna fill
Speaker 1: in that role of being a playmaker, not just a
Speaker 1: good safety, but a playmaker. That's why I think Curs
Speaker 1: should maybe think about him a little bit more as
Speaker 1: it should there be a little more priority on trying
Speaker 1: to get trying to sign him Curse. Curse was just
Speaker 1: so banged out, but he played through the wild card.
Speaker 1: Here is is Marquise Bell That's the one that they've
Speaker 1: kind of sneaky put him in situations to maybe that
Speaker 1: he could be the Donovan Wilson guy. See, and I think, look,
Speaker 1: I don't want them to break the bank on Donovan Wilson.
Speaker 1: Let's be clear. I'm not saying go out and pay him,
Speaker 1: make him the highest paid safety. If that's what he's asking,
Speaker 1: then hey, good, thank you for what you did. We'll
Speaker 1: have to move on. All I'm saying is I would
Speaker 1: really he's one of those guys I look at at
Speaker 1: the upper end of I'd like to have back because
Speaker 1: I think he provides so much from the standpoint of
Speaker 1: a playmaker for this step, I would take him over.
Speaker 1: If you said you were going to spend money on
Speaker 1: the Guard, if you were going to spend money on
Speaker 1: Connor McGovern, I would say I would rather have Donovan
Speaker 1: Wilson than Connor McGovern. And if you're talking about starters, yeah,
Speaker 1: and with Layton real quick, I think it starts with Mica.
Speaker 1: Like anything does. Figure out what you're gonna do there,
Speaker 1: if you're going to play him the way you still
Speaker 1: play him where he does a little bit of both,
Speaker 1: and maybe not who Mica well next year, but I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, I'm talking about rush and the passer. If
Speaker 1: he's going to be more of a pass rusher, then
Speaker 1: you really do need some linebackers here. So and I
Speaker 1: would go that route. Hello Jabril Cox, and Hello Clark
Speaker 1: and Hello. You know, I actually think too, there's there's
Speaker 1: going to be, how a feeling there's going to be
Speaker 1: more veteran linebackers available in free agency, and as a
Speaker 1: part of that, that may drive Layton's value down a bit.
Speaker 1: You might be able to bring him back for a
Speaker 1: number that his injury hatroll many options out there. He's
Speaker 1: injury history. People might have had him off the board
Speaker 1: when he came out. They still might feel the same way.
Speaker 1: All Right, we appreciate you, guys, Jonas. We'll be back
Speaker 1: next week. Free agency will start, man, we get into
Speaker 1: the fun of the offseason. We'll do that next week.
Speaker 1: Till then, for Nick even Brian brought us an Amber Garcia.
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