Speaker 1: If Kadi and Lebron called both of you before the playoffs,
Speaker 1: would y'all sign with l A. A A. Brooklyn? I think
Speaker 1: it would be an honor, but it's just not in
Speaker 1: me no more. I try to play in a celebrity
Speaker 1: uh rams flag football game on the same playfull my
Speaker 1: fucking my hamstring and my calf. So I'm out the question.
Speaker 1: But what about you? I'm gonna need two months in advance.
Speaker 1: I could, but if they asked in a laugh for me,
Speaker 1: not at all. My body ain't got it. Would you
Speaker 1: go to the Lakers and Nets either or you can't move?
Speaker 1: Welcome back to what's burning? Jackie good? Good? My bro
Speaker 1: was the word. Man, I can't call it. The weather
Speaker 1: is nasty over here, but I am good. Let's get
Speaker 1: right to its. Starting with the week ahead, The Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Lakers got their first win Sunday night against a tough,
Speaker 1: young Memphis Grizzly team, balanced scoring six guys in double figures,
Speaker 1: Carmelo with off the bench, we'll touch on what that
Speaker 1: significance means, and Westbrook with thirteen assists. I think my
Speaker 1: question to you is, with this team being so many
Speaker 1: new pieces coming together, how long do you feel like
Speaker 1: it's gonna take for this team to get their footing.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna take long. You know, you
Speaker 1: got a whole bunch of events on this team. You've
Speaker 1: got guys have been dominant and has been all starts
Speaker 1: for a long time, all on one team. So the
Speaker 1: basketball i Q and understanding what they have to do
Speaker 1: is there. I think they have to collectively grow on defense.
Speaker 1: They're gonna score points easy. They've got so many guys
Speaker 1: that can score and have big nights. I think the
Speaker 1: biggest thing for them is being a cohesive doing it
Speaker 1: on defense, and I think that's what all of them
Speaker 1: talking about. And once they focused on that, I think
Speaker 1: a lot of stfther people talking about now go away. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, anytime the Lakers struggle or start off slow,
Speaker 1: it's gonna the world's gonna end. But see, I don't
Speaker 1: think it's gonna come together as fast. I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna definitely come together. But I think with all the
Speaker 1: new pieces they've added and key guys still out and
Speaker 1: guys not playing every single night, I think what they
Speaker 1: need is just time together, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like you can't make up chemistry like, you gotta find
Speaker 1: that and build that on the court. So I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna take a little while. I don't think we're
Speaker 1: gonna see the best Laker team or or the team
Speaker 1: that is going to make a running for the title.
Speaker 1: I think until after All Star Break. I think we'll
Speaker 1: see flashes of greatness here and there. But I still
Speaker 1: think it's gonna take some time because you've got a
Speaker 1: lot of key guys missing time in the rotation. And again,
Speaker 1: I think it starts on defense with this team. This
Speaker 1: is a little bit older team, so this is gonna
Speaker 1: be more of a defensive team defense than actually individual defense.
Speaker 1: So I think it's gonna take some time to kind
Speaker 1: of find that rhythm. Let's touch from Russell Westbrook. Um
Speaker 1: hasn't got off to a very good start Sunday night.
Speaker 1: He looked a little bit more like hisself, had thirteen assists,
Speaker 1: but thoughts on rustling and hit him kind of finding
Speaker 1: his way on this team. Well, you know, his rhythm
Speaker 1: is being able to do everything and when he wants to,
Speaker 1: you know, get to grab twenty rebounds, grab twenty assists
Speaker 1: and score up thirty points. He used to doing that,
Speaker 1: but you're on the team now where he got to
Speaker 1: figure out the thing that he can. He does everything well,
Speaker 1: but one thing that he can dominate it because you
Speaker 1: got Carmelo, you got a d you got Dwight. They're
Speaker 1: gonna get all those rebounds with Lebron, they're gonna get
Speaker 1: up most of the rebound. You're not gonna get ten
Speaker 1: fifteen rebounds to night assists. I think you can do that.
Speaker 1: You're still gonna have the battle light. He's still gonna
Speaker 1: be quarterback in the offense and doing all those things.
Speaker 1: So that I think the assists and the points fifteen
Speaker 1: and fifteen, I think you can do that. I think
Speaker 1: the rebounds are going to drop because you have so
Speaker 1: many guys that rebound on that team now. So just
Speaker 1: just try to be a better defensive player. I think
Speaker 1: I think Russ can pick up his defense and lead
Speaker 1: on defense because he's been a great defensive pass career.
Speaker 1: But for the most part, he's just got one of
Speaker 1: those things that he's that that that kept him average
Speaker 1: in the triple double is going to go away being
Speaker 1: on this team, and I think he got to find
Speaker 1: a way to be okay with that. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: his whole thing is he again to piggyback of what's
Speaker 1: kind of finding his spots. I think he doesn't want
Speaker 1: to step on people's toes. There's always been such a
Speaker 1: narrative about Russ as you can't do this, you can't
Speaker 1: do that without him. But I think he's finally starting
Speaker 1: to prove people wrong. But that narrative, I think Russ
Speaker 1: can do whatever he sets his mind too. But I
Speaker 1: think he's in a position right now where he's coming
Speaker 1: to a team with a d Lebron, Uh Carmelo and
Speaker 1: some some other good pieces. So I think he just
Speaker 1: needs to kind of find his his pick and choose
Speaker 1: his space spaces. And I feel like the first handful
Speaker 1: of games he didn't want to step on nobody's cells.
Speaker 1: But Russ has to be Russ um, you know, for
Speaker 1: the Lakers to get what they need at of him.
Speaker 1: So again, to me, it's just timing, it's chemistry. I
Speaker 1: don't think it will take too long because Russ is
Speaker 1: a good smart player. But again, once this team is
Speaker 1: on all cylinders are gonna be scary. Their next five
Speaker 1: games to try to find some kind of rhythm and
Speaker 1: footing there at San Antonio at Okay see home versus Cleveland,
Speaker 1: uh in two verse Houston. So those are all people
Speaker 1: that they should win, should beat, So we'll see if
Speaker 1: they can find that chemistry. But again, like you said,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just gonna take some time. Definitely on
Speaker 1: the defensive end. James Worthy says some uh at the
Speaker 1: end of last week about he wanted to see a
Speaker 1: D more in the paint and more dominant. What are
Speaker 1: your thoughts on You know, a D is as talent
Speaker 1: as they come. You mostly find them on the perimeter,
Speaker 1: but last game he actually did get in the post
Speaker 1: a little bit more and he was unstoppable. Thoughts on
Speaker 1: him kind of mixing more of the inside out game, Uh,
Speaker 1: to be more dominant. I think I think James Worth
Speaker 1: is right to me, Um, I think it needs to
Speaker 1: be in paint majority of the time, like all the time.
Speaker 1: You have a different team. Now you are, you have
Speaker 1: to you can beat him Duncan. Now you can catch
Speaker 1: the ball on the block, take your time, post up
Speaker 1: every play and if they double anything, you have people
Speaker 1: to kick it out to all over the court. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I think I think now more than ever, he
Speaker 1: needs to be watching Tim Duncan film. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Embracing the double teams and just being dominant.
Speaker 1: And uh, James reddon know what he's talking about. If
Speaker 1: anybody talking about that, a D needs to be in
Speaker 1: the paint, you know, James Redd is right. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I definitely agree. I think just today's game pushes all
Speaker 1: of the skilled big to the perimeter and they take
Speaker 1: a lot of time out that. Not that he's not effective,
Speaker 1: but there's no one in the game that can stop
Speaker 1: him down on that block. So you know, with Dwhite
Speaker 1: and and and DeAndre Jordan not really being go to
Speaker 1: guys down on the block, a D can definitely be
Speaker 1: that guy for them. Continuing on with the look ahead,
Speaker 1: we have the Hawks versus Sixers playoff rematch. Ben Simmons
Speaker 1: has stepped away from the game a little bit to
Speaker 1: get his mental clear. Can that bridge be repaired even
Speaker 1: if he clears his mental over there in Philly? I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm the person to ask, Trust me, I
Speaker 1: know about player step on the way to get their
Speaker 1: meant to clear. Roan did it to us right in
Speaker 1: training camp, so I know how they go. But with Ben,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it can be repaired. You know,
Speaker 1: you've got guys that that like a another guy saying
Speaker 1: that all you gotta do is come in and play
Speaker 1: and and and do his job, and the fans accept
Speaker 1: the back and love them. But I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: think that because I think he's mentally checked out, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. He's not just mentally he's just
Speaker 1: not physically physically not there. I think he's mentally not
Speaker 1: there either, you know what I mean. And that's why
Speaker 1: it's cool for him to be away from the team,
Speaker 1: because his mind is somewhere else. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: think it'd be fixed, man. I think he I think
Speaker 1: he has to make it. They have to make a move.
Speaker 1: They're talking to Kyrie Ben Simmons move, you know, all
Speaker 1: types of stuff like that. But he has to go. Man.
Speaker 1: I don't think that the relationship can be repaired, especially
Speaker 1: after the things um ob and beat that said. You know,
Speaker 1: he tried to fix him up with saying he still
Speaker 1: his brother, but at the end of the day, he
Speaker 1: heard what you said the first time and he got
Speaker 1: he won't he won't be able to erase that, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I don't. We're paid to not give a funk
Speaker 1: with the fan and think, you know, so who cares
Speaker 1: what the fans say, boo, This isn't that on your
Speaker 1: home court. It's the internal things that to me makes
Speaker 1: me seem like this is an unfixable situation. You know,
Speaker 1: we've obviously everyone's touched on it. You know what Doc
Speaker 1: said at the end of that that series would inb
Speaker 1: just says a few times and again he tried to,
Speaker 1: you know, cover it up, or fix it or or
Speaker 1: mend it when he took the mic the other day
Speaker 1: and said that he's still their brother. But again, when
Speaker 1: you're not wanted by the by by the people in
Speaker 1: the locker room, that's when it is unreparable. So you know,
Speaker 1: to me, it's on Darryl Morey and Elton Brand to
Speaker 1: move him, you know, because they're definitely gonna get something
Speaker 1: for him. I think what's held this process up as
Speaker 1: they really thought that he would change his mind, but
Speaker 1: obviously he has checked out. And if a player is
Speaker 1: not mentally there, you're not gonna get that done. A
Speaker 1: Minute's really just going to continue to hold the team
Speaker 1: back because now every day the team has held hosts
Speaker 1: with Ben Simmons questions instead of focusing on who the
Speaker 1: funk they're supposed to be playing, so you know, for
Speaker 1: being man, take your time. You know this mental that,
Speaker 1: this this ship is a lot. The game is different now,
Speaker 1: players are different now, and in mental health is real.
Speaker 1: So he stepped away from the game to clear his
Speaker 1: my Some people agree, some people disagree. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day, it's his decision. But I definitely feel
Speaker 1: like the bridge is burned and they need to make
Speaker 1: a move before we go forward. Though you know they
Speaker 1: coherst him into saying Ben still our brother, because one,
Speaker 1: they can't trade him if be not playing, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And too they got they paying him
Speaker 1: why he's somewhere else, children on vacation with the gender girl.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, bro big brand, too big brand.
Speaker 1: But with with Simmons gone, obviously Embadies your go to
Speaker 1: bias Harris, is that that second guy who is the
Speaker 1: third guy? You know, Seth Curry had a great game
Speaker 1: the other day, I think three in the first quarter
Speaker 1: which Matt only only his brother's Steph had topped him
Speaker 1: at twenty five for the most points in the quarter
Speaker 1: this year. Uh, Maxie is coming on strong. You've got
Speaker 1: green over there in your eyes. Who can be that
Speaker 1: third option if Ben Simmons is not available for the
Speaker 1: for the foreseeable future. It's gonna be hard to say,
Speaker 1: but I think for the for the most part, I
Speaker 1: think they you know, they can go twin Towers and
Speaker 1: try to throw drumming there and let him be dominant
Speaker 1: and pick up a bigger role. And I know Seth
Speaker 1: Kurr is gonna do what he do. He's getting off
Speaker 1: to a great start and he can. He can't be
Speaker 1: that guy. But for the most part, I think to
Speaker 1: help out this team to get for a guy that
Speaker 1: can go in and dominate rebounding wise and uh, dominated
Speaker 1: around the basket along wouldn't be I think John could
Speaker 1: be that guy. M Moving on to the Hawks. I
Speaker 1: like this team. You know, they obviously surprised the world
Speaker 1: last year by the run they made and they really
Speaker 1: weren't healthy, uh, particularly with their young guys. Uh. You
Speaker 1: know someone you and I are both high on, Cam
Speaker 1: Reddish Hunter Danovich, Collins Capella, you know Trades that the
Speaker 1: head of that snake. I really like this young team
Speaker 1: and what the what they built in the culture they're
Speaker 1: building around there. What is the buzz around Atlanta with
Speaker 1: this team and they can't. They're they're ready for this
Speaker 1: season to kick off. Everybody's excited about this season. Call
Speaker 1: you said, Cam Reddish is healthy. Uh, now we both
Speaker 1: know nothing. Nothing like coming into a season now that
Speaker 1: you get your big contract. Collins got his money. Experience
Speaker 1: is the best teacher this team. This team had a
Speaker 1: great season last year. They went through injury, they went
Speaker 1: through ups and downs, they went through loss in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: So this year, with Nate coming in being secure on
Speaker 1: his job as well, I think they're gonna they're gonna
Speaker 1: really shock some people and have a better season and
Speaker 1: last year. I mean, the East is tough, but I
Speaker 1: definitely like what they've built over the Atlanta. Moving on
Speaker 1: Halloween Sunday, Jazz versus the Bucks. Both teams are expected
Speaker 1: to have a big season. Obviously, the Bucks coming off
Speaker 1: a championship. Uh, the Jazz coming off of this disappointing,
Speaker 1: disappointing second round loss in the playoffs. In your eyes,
Speaker 1: can they defend the title? I think they can, but
Speaker 1: I don't think they will. They definitely have to defend
Speaker 1: it because they will defend the champions But I don't know, Matt,
Speaker 1: because not having guys like p Ja Tuck on that team.
Speaker 1: It's gonna hurt. I think he was. He was a
Speaker 1: big asset to that team as far as being the dog,
Speaker 1: being the guy that that can go in there and
Speaker 1: just and just make things dirty, muff things up on
Speaker 1: on any start that comes in the arena. Now it's
Speaker 1: gonna have to be Middleton, and that's gonna take away
Speaker 1: from his offense, and he's not used to doing that.
Speaker 1: He's just not He's a good defender, he's a great
Speaker 1: competitive two way player, but he's not PJ Tuck on
Speaker 1: the defensive ent. I think that's gonna I think that's
Speaker 1: gonna hurt them at the end. And I think I
Speaker 1: also think not having p JA Tucker um not only
Speaker 1: just in a regular season, but when they come into
Speaker 1: games count Matt. That's what I'm really talking about, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. In the playoff games they didn't
Speaker 1: have they don't have p JA Tucker gets Katie in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, they don't win that series. So not having him,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be he's gonna be a higher harder to
Speaker 1: attach for him to come back and try to repeat
Speaker 1: the champions. No, I completely agree with with p J
Speaker 1: Tucker and for the casual fan. You you know, everyone
Speaker 1: looks at stats, but there's so much more to the
Speaker 1: game than actual stats. And you know how you can
Speaker 1: be effective on the court and change the dynamic of
Speaker 1: the game without necessarily scoring a lot of pointing And
Speaker 1: p J. Tucker was definitely one of those guys. Um
Speaker 1: looking at Utah, I mean, this team has, you know,
Speaker 1: a great coaching Quinn Snyder there the number one team
Speaker 1: in the West last year, riddled by injury cords the
Speaker 1: end of the season. Mike Conley's back and healthy. Talked
Speaker 1: to him the other day. He's in this fifteenth year.
Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell looks as good as the uh, you know,
Speaker 1: defending Defense Player of the Year Rudy Gobert. Is Is
Speaker 1: this the year this team can make the jump and
Speaker 1: represent the West? No? I just don't think so. I mean,
Speaker 1: they have a great team, They have a great regular
Speaker 1: season team. But I know, I just know Matt you know,
Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell is a beast, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But I love Quint Snyder, but you you have guys
Speaker 1: that can make shots in the regular season, and they
Speaker 1: just can't make them when they come down to the semifinals.
Speaker 1: All the finals, all the Western Conference finals. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just it's just different games, you know. And I
Speaker 1: don't see them having that guy, you know, they need that,
Speaker 1: They need a third guy. To me, they need another
Speaker 1: star then come in. They take a little pressure off
Speaker 1: off Donovan Mitchell. I like all the other guys. I
Speaker 1: like bon Donovich. He can shoot the ball, he makes
Speaker 1: big shots, but at the end of the day, his
Speaker 1: game is still limited. This is a good team, like
Speaker 1: I said, a great regular season team, Matt, but I
Speaker 1: just don't see them being there when we were watching
Speaker 1: teams playing for the trophy. I love also Jordan Clarkston
Speaker 1: to the raining six man. I'm a big fan of
Speaker 1: Jordan Clarkston. But that's one who's coming off the bench.
Speaker 1: And I said this last year and when I was
Speaker 1: on ESPN, and I got so much fucking hate on
Speaker 1: social media from it. But like you said, I think
Speaker 1: they need that consistent and as Mike Conley kind of
Speaker 1: past that point of his career where they had that
Speaker 1: consistent second game score, that's what you need every team.
Speaker 1: If you look at every team that made a real run,
Speaker 1: they had at least two guys that were gonna give
Speaker 1: you twenty every night, and I don't really feel like
Speaker 1: this team has that again. Jordan Clarkson is capable of it,
Speaker 1: but he's coming off the bench. Who is going to
Speaker 1: be that starter that when Donovan Mitchell rests or Donovan
Speaker 1: Mitchell is not really going can carry the load. And
Speaker 1: I still don't think they have that again. Mike Colley
Speaker 1: in the past has been that in his career, but
Speaker 1: he's in his fifteenth years been troubled by injury the
Speaker 1: past few years. I don't know if that's still, you know,
Speaker 1: in his repertoire. So we'll have to see a great
Speaker 1: showdown Halloween night. Make sure you enjoy that after you've
Speaker 1: done before or after you've done trick or treating. Jack,
Speaker 1: Are you trigging or treating this Halloween? Yeah? But hey,
Speaker 1: but I'm I'm eating this one. Next up on the Radar,
Speaker 1: presented you by DraftKings, Big match up Friday Night, Luca
Speaker 1: versus The Joker MAVs Verse Nuggets last year's MVP The Joker.
Speaker 1: They have him on as fifteen to win, odds to
Speaker 1: win it this year and again favorite to win m VP.
Speaker 1: They have Luca at four to one. Before we talk
Speaker 1: about these teams. Jack. Uh, if you were to pick
Speaker 1: one of those two guys to win MVP, who would
Speaker 1: it be? Kevin Durant. I'm just saying. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: these odds. They must be doing it. They must be
Speaker 1: doing these odds. Matt with with with just uh, they
Speaker 1: just assuming that Katie gonna play half the season or something.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, What if he played the
Speaker 1: pull season? What if Braun played the pull Sea. We
Speaker 1: got other guys that we considering Greek freak, We got
Speaker 1: other guys that we consider the best in the game
Speaker 1: right now. So I don't I don't like these odds
Speaker 1: at all, But just for the sake of the conversation,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick Luca. Luca's a Stashi stuffer. He's one
Speaker 1: of the best players in the game. He does it all,
Speaker 1: he's exciting to watch, and he's gonna get this team
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. So I say, Luca, I'm not mad
Speaker 1: at that. Yeah. If I were to pick at the two,
Speaker 1: and really Joker was the first big to win it.
Speaker 1: In a minute, I want to say, since Shack on it,
Speaker 1: this is really a guard driven league now, so obviously
Speaker 1: has out the Joker will be able to grab that
Speaker 1: last year. But yeah, if I had to pick out
Speaker 1: of those two, I would definitely picked Luca. But again,
Speaker 1: if I had to pick in the league, I'm picking
Speaker 1: k D. I think he's on the mission this year.
Speaker 1: Their team has started off a little slow, but I
Speaker 1: definitely think they'll find their footing. Hopefully they figure out
Speaker 1: the Kyrie situation. We'll talk about all that later. These
Speaker 1: two teams. Um, did Dallas do enough in the offseason
Speaker 1: to get better? Uh? When did Jamal Murray expected back?
Speaker 1: Because I think if Jamal Murray rejoins his team and
Speaker 1: could be anything that he was in the past, this
Speaker 1: Denver Nugget team is gonna be scary. Yeah. Also, I
Speaker 1: think Tim Duncan wanted to have to check but I think, man,
Speaker 1: they need they start. Man, they need they start. He
Speaker 1: got to get back on the court bad. They need
Speaker 1: Murray ad just just from what he did in the
Speaker 1: bubble bro. I think everybody's anticipating to him coming back
Speaker 1: and and seeing even if he could do that for
Speaker 1: a full season, you know what I'm saying, their own arena,
Speaker 1: you know, just just just in the full NBA season.
Speaker 1: But for the most part, they can get him back,
Speaker 1: They're gonna be They're gonna be a problem because Yoka
Speaker 1: is unstoppable. I just need Murray back to with the
Speaker 1: dynamic of him and yokas together and everybody else a
Speaker 1: fall in line. Yeah, and then too. You know another
Speaker 1: kid that got his rookie max extension, Um, Michael Porter Jr.
Speaker 1: Someone we both like. Um, he's definitely gonna have to
Speaker 1: step his game up as far as consistency. He shows
Speaker 1: flashes of greatness. To me, I've always been a big
Speaker 1: fan of this kid, So I'm excited to see you
Speaker 1: know that. To me, that's their three headed monster. Then
Speaker 1: you also add Aaron Gordon in the mix, and uh
Speaker 1: the other pieces they have, Jeff Green, so on, so forth.
Speaker 1: So this Denver team is gonna be interesting as far
Speaker 1: as the MAVs go. I mean, lucas a monster, But
Speaker 1: I don't really know if Porzingis is ready to really
Speaker 1: be his robbin or not. We'll have to wait and see.
Speaker 1: But uh, that's should be a good match up Friday night.
Speaker 1: Make sure you guys check that sh it out. Next up,
Speaker 1: my new favorite segment, Secure the Bag, presented you my
Speaker 1: money line. Chicago Bulls are off to A three and
Speaker 1: those start. They made some key free agent acquisitions this year,
Speaker 1: Jack picking up Lonzo Ball to mar de Rosen, Alex Crusoe.
Speaker 1: Ball is averaging fourteen points, seven rebounds, five assists right now.
Speaker 1: De Rosin's at twenty one point, six rebounds, four assists.
Speaker 1: I love what they're doing over there. They play with
Speaker 1: a lot of energy. Let's talk about that team real quick.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on the Bulls. I like them,
Speaker 1: especially in the East. I like the energy D bring.
Speaker 1: It's a new look for all these guys. I think
Speaker 1: all of them are playing free and it's new environment.
Speaker 1: A lot of times we know how how a new
Speaker 1: environment helps basketball players. I've been one of those guys.
Speaker 1: So it's a good look for him, Matt and it's
Speaker 1: it's it's surprising, but it's a good look to see
Speaker 1: what they'll be able to do in the East. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love Alex Caruso. I think he's one of probably
Speaker 1: the biggest spark plug in the game right now. I
Speaker 1: know the Lakers are definitely gonna miss in this year
Speaker 1: to go along with Zach Levine and Vossovic. Let's touch
Speaker 1: on was this a smart investment or not? Alonzo Ball
Speaker 1: signed a four year eighty million dollar deal. Obviously he
Speaker 1: secured the bag. Good investment or questionable investment? Great investment,
Speaker 1: great investment, you got you got. You gotta spend that
Speaker 1: money somewhere. You spend it on the solid point guard
Speaker 1: that that that has a high basketball i Q. That's
Speaker 1: only gonna get better, that's starting to come into its
Speaker 1: own with it. He had a lot of pressure on
Speaker 1: them coming too the league, and I think all that's
Speaker 1: fallen off of now. I think Chicago he's going to
Speaker 1: be great. Um, definitely definitely deserve that contract money well spent. Yes,
Speaker 1: great investment to me, I think we're gonna finally see
Speaker 1: the Alonzo Ball. We all knew he was capable of being.
Speaker 1: Obviously the Lakers, we know what happened there. Uh, New
Speaker 1: Orleans didn't really get along too much in the in
Speaker 1: in that system. Um, although Zion Williams really did not
Speaker 1: want him to go. Now in Chicago again, this team
Speaker 1: plays fun, free, fast, that's his style of play. He's
Speaker 1: running the show. Uh So, definitely great investment. Next up
Speaker 1: our man to Martin Rosen keeps getting bag. He signed
Speaker 1: a three year, eighty two million dollar deal. Already know
Speaker 1: what your answer is gonna be on this, but I
Speaker 1: have to ask it. Great investment or questionable investment? Great
Speaker 1: investment man, definitely great investment. Um, if you can get
Speaker 1: a guy like de Martin Rosen uh Med rage killer
Speaker 1: guaranteed to get you twenty one to twenty five points
Speaker 1: a game, gonna compete and the big shot maker. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I like it. I like it all of
Speaker 1: it around. Yeah, agreed. Another great investment of veteran presence,
Speaker 1: who's who who's been through the battles can help this
Speaker 1: younger team and with some guidance and veteran leadership along
Speaker 1: with his play. Um to me, I think that the
Speaker 1: Bulls are a top three at worst top four UM
Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference. I'm excited to see if they
Speaker 1: can stay healthy with this team could do. Make sure
Speaker 1: you check out our brother Dion Taylor, one of the
Speaker 1: hottest new black directors in Hollywood. His episode is dropping
Speaker 1: this Thursday, October. Enjoy the teaser. Who are your film influences?
Speaker 1: Spike Lee? John sings in at him and specific films?
Speaker 1: Are song or artists who expired you to Mont John?
Speaker 1: You know I knew John very well. Rest in Peace.
Speaker 1: Incredible man. I only got to know him for a
Speaker 1: short time. I met John in a very weird way.
Speaker 1: I met John at an event and uh, I had
Speaker 1: end up talking about a couple of films that I
Speaker 1: was trying to put together at the time, and Free
Speaker 1: Agents was one of those films. And I had just
Speaker 1: finished doing the movie called Supremacy rehearsal Ali and Danny Glover,
Speaker 1: and I was getting washed with that film. Man like,
Speaker 1: we had made this incredible movie and we could not
Speaker 1: find a distribution for at home for I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: what is going on? He pulled me to the SIDEHI
Speaker 1: was like, man, this is just what the business is
Speaker 1: for you as a black filmmaker. A couple of months later,
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want to do no more
Speaker 1: serious films. I would have did this movie Meet the Blacks.
Speaker 1: And John was the first person to call me opening
Speaker 1: Night and Meet the Blacks and sent me a picture
Speaker 1: of the ticket. He was like, Nigga, this the funny
Speaker 1: shit out of Sea, and I remember just being like, damn,
Speaker 1: this is crazy. Got on the phone with him and
Speaker 1: you know, and kept in touch with him. But he
Speaker 1: was always a great person in terms of like not
Speaker 1: always but over the course of time, he would always
Speaker 1: pop up at the right time to say something great,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And but John is a
Speaker 1: huge influence because I love what he was about. But
Speaker 1: I really really love the brandon of Tyler Perry obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, doing it his own way, building his own thing.
Speaker 1: But I'm a giant Stephen Spielberg fan. Man, I think
Speaker 1: Spielberg is incredible just for the simple factor what I
Speaker 1: told you earlier, Like I love the fact that, you know,
Speaker 1: although he's not a black man, I love that he
Speaker 1: jumped genres and did it the right way. So you
Speaker 1: think of color, purple, think of et you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like, these are completely different films and Jaws,
Speaker 1: you know. And I just love that. Man. I've always
Speaker 1: been like, man, I'm gonna be ever to be that
Speaker 1: prolific as a black filmmaker in the space. We have
Speaker 1: a very special guest for you guys today. L hef
Speaker 1: A Stephen Espinoza, President of Showtime Sports. Steve Man, thank
Speaker 1: you and your busy schedule for making time to talk
Speaker 1: to me and Jack today. I just I just wanted
Speaker 1: to make real clear from the outset, this was a
Speaker 1: lot of requirement. It's a lot forced upon you. There's
Speaker 1: legitimate I'm a legitimate guest here there. You got's what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. But hey, Jack, But Jack, when you
Speaker 1: know when you got l president and your show, that
Speaker 1: means your show is doing well and it's not going nowhere.
Speaker 1: Just just having them on our show ext hell a
Speaker 1: little bit, we got a little sense of security. Absolutely. Hey,
Speaker 1: well let's get to it. Steve, you came on set
Speaker 1: one day when we when we had ad reads and
Speaker 1: we were trying to do the Homeland ad reads. What
Speaker 1: were your thoughts after hearing me funk up eighteen times?
Speaker 1: And Jack have to catch yourself a few times. Where
Speaker 1: did you think the future of this show was going,
Speaker 1: if there was a future for it. Uh, Look, it
Speaker 1: didn't change my idea of the future of the show.
Speaker 1: I just look, everybody has their strengths. You know, everybody's
Speaker 1: good at everything. So you know, it's sort of like,
Speaker 1: you know, all all that big team around you, they're
Speaker 1: excellent at bringing out you, putting your position to succeed.
Speaker 1: That just wasn't a position in which you were succeeding. Right, Hey,
Speaker 1: I don't. I still don't. Hey, I still don't think
Speaker 1: I know how to say it was that Manny how
Speaker 1: you saying many Patinkin. Yeah, see, I I couldn't get
Speaker 1: it. It It took me like eight nine shots. And in
Speaker 1: the boss is sitting right there, I'm like, funk, we
Speaker 1: might not have a job. We get done that damn it.
Speaker 1: But uh but but on a real note, you know,
Speaker 1: tell me your thoughts. Obviously, Showtime Basketball being fairly new
Speaker 1: before we jumped on board. Um, you know you guys
Speaker 1: struck gold. We struck gold would have been your thoughts
Speaker 1: over the last two years of the growth of the
Speaker 1: show heading into season three. I mean, being completely candid, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, we had high hopes for the show, but
Speaker 1: this has exceeded everything we really could have wished for. Um.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying this because I'm on with you guys. Um,
Speaker 1: I've said it many times. I mean, you guys are
Speaker 1: one of the top sports podcasts. You got there within
Speaker 1: the first year, and you know you've arrived because I
Speaker 1: I hear this all the time. I'm not sure people
Speaker 1: say it to you, but I get pictures all the
Speaker 1: time from people saying, well, it's the it's the all
Speaker 1: the smoke of club. You know, we want to be
Speaker 1: the All the Smoke of the NFL, you know, and
Speaker 1: when you start setting the stage, when you start, you know,
Speaker 1: setting the curve for everybody else, you know, you've made
Speaker 1: an impact in a very very crowded field because as
Speaker 1: you guys know, you know, that's the biggest challenge in
Speaker 1: podcasting is how do you you stand out? And you
Speaker 1: guys have hit it out of the park in that respect. Yeah, Um,
Speaker 1: coming November four, the best of All the Smoke returns
Speaker 1: to the actual showtime linear Um tell us a little
Speaker 1: bit about that. You know, we always envisioned this that
Speaker 1: in success, it would incubate other projects, you know, and
Speaker 1: and doing the best of on the channel is sort
Speaker 1: of is an easy one. And even you know, regular
Speaker 1: fans of this show, we've seen these, you know, I
Speaker 1: hear really good feedback because we're packaging them up a
Speaker 1: little bit, you know, differently. You know, fifteen episodes every
Speaker 1: Thursday starting November four, you know, paired with Jesus and Marrow,
Speaker 1: and you know, this is an opportunity to sort of,
Speaker 1: you know, put a slightly different format, revisit some of
Speaker 1: the best of y'all stuff, and we're happy to do it.
Speaker 1: It it belongs on the network. One thing that I
Speaker 1: really love over here, and obviously shout out Brian Daley
Speaker 1: who's listened to this right now. I just love the creativity.
Speaker 1: I think. You know, like you said, Stephen, we're able
Speaker 1: to package stuff up a little different, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, We're not just giving you the same raw
Speaker 1: cut of something else, but we're able to package it up,
Speaker 1: slice it up and different. And then and the one
Speaker 1: thing I appreciate it we've I mean, to me, we're
Speaker 1: more than a podcast, and I think we've continued to
Speaker 1: prove that. But you guys have allowed us to be
Speaker 1: creative within this space because like you said, there's hundreds
Speaker 1: of thousands, if not millions of podcasts out there, and
Speaker 1: I think what obviously Jack and Eyes Dynamic is special.
Speaker 1: But you guys allow us to be creative within this space,
Speaker 1: and to me, that's what continues to allow us to
Speaker 1: raise the bar. And now people are trying to emulate
Speaker 1: what we're doing. You're you're right, calling you a podcast
Speaker 1: is starting under selling it. Um, what you guys have done,
Speaker 1: either with Irison Classic or starting to highlight HBC used, Um,
Speaker 1: you know that's that's not just sitting down in front
Speaker 1: of the microphone and go and stream of consciousness. Um,
Speaker 1: you guys are creative types and again exceeded our expectations. UM.
Speaker 1: You know Bryan Daily was when he brought it to me,
Speaker 1: he was he was sort of your your biggest advocate,
Speaker 1: and we had high hopes. Um. But again you guys
Speaker 1: have exceeded that, not just in and what you've achieved,
Speaker 1: but in the creative what you're bringing to the table
Speaker 1: outside of the podcast. KG doc um premiers Friday, November twelfth.
Speaker 1: What was your first impression of KG when you met him?
Speaker 1: And we can what can people expect from this doc
Speaker 1: as well? Two questions. Well, it's funny you guys know
Speaker 1: no kge, so feel free to disagree. But you know,
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of guys who on the field
Speaker 1: and off the field, or on the court and off
Speaker 1: the court, are different guys. You know, some guys transform
Speaker 1: you step you step onto the court, you transformed into
Speaker 1: your alter ego. UM. You know Dame Lillard, you know
Speaker 1: he's a he's a beast on the court. He's pretty
Speaker 1: quiet off the court. Um. KG. I was surprised to
Speaker 1: find out when we first met him. Um, he's he's
Speaker 1: that guy. Twenty four hours a day. I feel like
Speaker 1: KG rolls out of bed just hype to be up
Speaker 1: in the morning, talking loud in your face, you know, intensity,
Speaker 1: and you know it's just it's it's great energy. I
Speaker 1: met him strangely enough, when we were on an NBA trip.
Speaker 1: It was a preseason trip. The Nets were touring China
Speaker 1: and we were all on a flight from from JFK
Speaker 1: to UH Shanghai or Beijing, and I got introduced in
Speaker 1: that flight and we just started talking boxing. Pretty soon
Speaker 1: they had to separated us because we were making too
Speaker 1: much noise and keeping the rest of the plane apart.
Speaker 1: And think that's when, uh, you know, that's when at
Speaker 1: that point, you know, we started talking about the dock
Speaker 1: and now probably five six years later we started talking
Speaker 1: about seriously, and you know, at this point, you see
Speaker 1: it's a good reminder, you know, Kg. It's been so
Speaker 1: long since KG came into the league. People have forgotten
Speaker 1: what a trailblazer he was, whether it's financially, whether it's
Speaker 1: you know, setting the stage for more players to come
Speaker 1: from high school, the kinds of things that he did.
Speaker 1: I mean, AI gets a lot of credit rightfully so
Speaker 1: that KG was the same kind of trailblazer. Agreed. Shout
Speaker 1: out to our guy, Eric Newman. Been working diligently for
Speaker 1: a long time on this, on this KG dot. We
Speaker 1: know it's dropping dex follow up questions, what what can
Speaker 1: we what what what can our fans and what can
Speaker 1: we what can our fans expect from this? Uh, it's
Speaker 1: the personal side. I mean, there's there's one thing, you know,
Speaker 1: we probably could have done a eight part doc with
Speaker 1: KG aside from his energy. You guys know, he's he's
Speaker 1: got to be one of the best storytellers I've ever
Speaker 1: recounted anything. I mean, the way he tells stories, you
Speaker 1: just sit there and before you know it, it's a
Speaker 1: forty five minute story and you're on the ground laughing
Speaker 1: and crying and thinking. And that's that's what it is.
Speaker 1: I mean, it really is the toughest part of making
Speaker 1: that talk is figuring out what goes in and what
Speaker 1: doesn't go in, because you know, you've got three or
Speaker 1: four docks, you know, in his life, absolutely two is
Speaker 1: gonna be a big you know, big time for Showtime sports,
Speaker 1: Showtime Basketball in particular. We're welcoming Paul Pierce to the family.
Speaker 1: KG is already the Mixed kg's got a podcast coming out.
Speaker 1: Can you speak to some projects that our fans should
Speaker 1: be expecting In two I'll go into slightly different direction,
Speaker 1: but i'll bring back to you. We have a John
Speaker 1: McEnroe dock h you know, coming up, and that's one
Speaker 1: that really hasn't been visited in you know, in a
Speaker 1: really heavy duty, full way. And I sort of feel
Speaker 1: like McEnroe was the Matt Barnes or Stephen Jackson of
Speaker 1: tennis at that point. You know, he was you know,
Speaker 1: he didn't care what you thought. He went out there
Speaker 1: did things his way. Um, it's been a whild look,
Speaker 1: that's early eighties was his real heyday. And people think
Speaker 1: about tennis and it's you know, the white outfits and
Speaker 1: having tea at Wimbledon and things like that. That's not
Speaker 1: John mcilrolle. You know, John McEnroe was. It was a
Speaker 1: g I mean, all you have to do is go
Speaker 1: to the garden and see what kind of hero. You know,
Speaker 1: mclroe is still to this day to now how he
Speaker 1: sort of changed tennis and and actually became a New
Speaker 1: York City icon. That's hard to do as a tennis player. Right,
Speaker 1: We've got another one from from Kevin Durant which is
Speaker 1: right up your guys alle. Uh. He did one for
Speaker 1: us last year on PG County and looking at you
Speaker 1: know how that became a breeding ground for some great players. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's looking at you know, he and his partner, which Kimen,
Speaker 1: are looking at New York City point guards, you know,
Speaker 1: in that history, and more interestingly, like asking the question
Speaker 1: why you know we can all think of when you
Speaker 1: say New York City point guard, there's a particular type
Speaker 1: that you can think of, and why is that? You know,
Speaker 1: And there's there's a lot of reasons sort of about
Speaker 1: New York City and growing up and playing in the
Speaker 1: city and what kind of game you developed here? Mm hmmm,
Speaker 1: I like that like that and then uh kg podcast,
Speaker 1: Am I hearing that correctly as well? Same thing. You know,
Speaker 1: there's just so much good content. It's it's it's a waste.
Speaker 1: You know, it might end up being the world's longest podcast.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to put that down. You know,
Speaker 1: it just might be a continuous stream of consciousness for
Speaker 1: hours and hours on end. But it won't be boring,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. Speak to obviously, I felt like it
Speaker 1: was unjust m Paul Pierce was let go of ESPN, um,
Speaker 1: you know, for stuff they thought didn't fit on brand. UM.
Speaker 1: I think he was a great pick up for our
Speaker 1: team and our family speak to what we can see
Speaker 1: expect from Paul Pierce. I feel like the truth is
Speaker 1: is a great nickname. Um. You know, obviously it applied
Speaker 1: to him on the court, but he fits in right
Speaker 1: in with you guys and a lot of our other talent,
Speaker 1: a lot of other programming where he's not afraid of
Speaker 1: the truth um. And where a lot of guys when
Speaker 1: that happened with that, that sort of thing happened, and
Speaker 1: and he left ESPN, a lot of guys would have
Speaker 1: shut down, UM, not Paul Pierce. He you know, he
Speaker 1: addressed it, addressed it continuously, wasn't apologetic, you know, and
Speaker 1: he was just you know him, you know. And we're
Speaker 1: happy to give him another opportunity because he's a unique voice. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: And last but not least, the education of Matt are
Speaker 1: absolutely what's up with that? Hell haf a? Like I said, look, this,
Speaker 1: that was more than we bargained for. We didn't know
Speaker 1: we were going to get a TV Star scripted series
Speaker 1: gotta gotta roll in there. Couldn't do it without Stack
Speaker 1: as well. And I don't think there's anything like it
Speaker 1: in television. I can't think of another one, uh that's
Speaker 1: like it because it's not it's not really about sports. Um,
Speaker 1: it's about a guy who played sports, but a really
Speaker 1: a really interesting guy dealing with the transition from one
Speaker 1: part of his life to another. And again it's it's
Speaker 1: all real like this stuff, you know. It's one of
Speaker 1: those situations. One of the things that I say sometimes
Speaker 1: about boxing is it's hard to do a good fictional
Speaker 1: movie about boxing because the stuff that happens in real
Speaker 1: life is way crazier than anything you can make up fictionally.
Speaker 1: And that's I think that applies to me Barnes life.
Speaker 1: We don't need to make stuff up. Let's just take
Speaker 1: the stuff right, it's actually happening, and that's an interesting series. Right. Yes. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm excited, man, to be starring and producing, uh in
Speaker 1: my own show on this platform, and it's been a
Speaker 1: dream come true. So again, we appreciate that Jack is
Speaker 1: gonna be obviously right right there alongside of me making
Speaker 1: his acting debut as well. So man, we're excited to
Speaker 1: get to work to that uh early next year. Moving
Speaker 1: on to boxing, How has the boxing landscape changed since
Speaker 1: you came into it and what is it like present day? Well, look,
Speaker 1: it's sort of it's the same thing, um that is
Speaker 1: affecting society and other sports. And I'd say the biggest
Speaker 1: thing is social media, um, and not just the existence
Speaker 1: of social media, how it's changed the dynamic It is
Speaker 1: given athletes in general, um, an independence on autonomy, an
Speaker 1: ability to sort of directly engage, build their fan base,
Speaker 1: get their story out, and and and really even monetize it.
Speaker 1: You know, starting with college now all the way through
Speaker 1: your career. It so no longer as a fighter reliant
Speaker 1: on promoters and traditional media to be able to get
Speaker 1: his story out, to build a fan base, to speak
Speaker 1: his truth. And I think that's a really powerful thing. Um.
Speaker 1: Now it's gone already so far that you know, now
Speaker 1: you have people who have built huge fan bases, like
Speaker 1: a Jake Paul, who have now used that to leverage
Speaker 1: their way into the sport. I would never have predicted that. Um. Look,
Speaker 1: I think it's an interesting development. There's definitely a lot
Speaker 1: of interest out there in the business, but that would
Speaker 1: not have been possible without social media. Agreed, Let's talk
Speaker 1: about these Philly fighters, two guys that I'm close friends
Speaker 1: when guys and fans of jaredy and Its and Stephen
Speaker 1: cool boy Fulton. What do you think about these guys
Speaker 1: in the fights they got coming up Philly? Philly has
Speaker 1: a great history, you know, you talk about New York
Speaker 1: City point guards, and you know, there are certain guys
Speaker 1: that come to mind, whether Roder Strickland or Kenny Anderson
Speaker 1: and Mark Jackson. When you say Phil the fighter, you
Speaker 1: think of a gritty, tough guy. Joe Fraser, Bernard Hopkins,
Speaker 1: like probably the two biggest names UM. And in Jeron
Speaker 1: Ennis and Stephen Fulton, you have two of the guys
Speaker 1: who could very well be carrying the sport over the
Speaker 1: next few years, I mean my money. And Jeron Ennis
Speaker 1: is arguably you know, the best fighter under you know
Speaker 1: in the sport UM and it's gotten really tough to
Speaker 1: get him fights, you know, because that's not he has
Speaker 1: not shown a weakness yet. You know. Stephen Fulton is
Speaker 1: a really exciting young fighter as well. He's in a
Speaker 1: big fight on November unifying the title against Brandon figaroa UM.
Speaker 1: You know, and you talk to these two guys. You know,
Speaker 1: Steven's a you know, a big personality. Gern is a
Speaker 1: little bit more reserved. But once they're in the ring,
Speaker 1: you see the dog, and the dog comes out and
Speaker 1: that's where you see that Philly fighter. November six, shout
Speaker 1: out to Islaia and Carter Barns. They will be thirteen
Speaker 1: that day. But also another important thing on that day
Speaker 1: is Canello steps back in the ring versus Plant. Uh
Speaker 1: what intrigues you most about this matchup? The consensus pound
Speaker 1: for pound number one fighter in the sport, you know,
Speaker 1: pretty clearly the biggest draw on this court. It's it's
Speaker 1: the opportunity to see you know, Lebron step query of boxing.
Speaker 1: But this particular fight, um, the first time we've got
Speaker 1: an undisputed hundred and sixty eight pound champion at least potentially.
Speaker 1: Never been anybody in that division that has done that before,
Speaker 1: had all four belts, and it's only been happened across
Speaker 1: any division six times at all. So you know people
Speaker 1: complained too many champions. Well, look, whoever wins that fight,
Speaker 1: you know they are the champion. They've got all the
Speaker 1: belts division, and that's a big thing for Canello even
Speaker 1: with everything he's accomplished, and it's even a bigger thing
Speaker 1: Plant to be on the world stage. But the interesting
Speaker 1: thing about Plant is we we don't know how good
Speaker 1: he is. You know, he is undefeated, um, but he
Speaker 1: has not faced anyone in the caliber of Canelo, So
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody can really tell you what's going
Speaker 1: to happen. You know, Canelo is obviously only got the
Speaker 1: one loss to Void Mayweather. He's been dominant elsewhere. Um,
Speaker 1: But here we go, we have a little bit of
Speaker 1: an unknown quantity. You know. They're only way to tell
Speaker 1: how good a guy is you put him in with
Speaker 1: an elite fighter and see what happens. Yes, certain, well, Steve,
Speaker 1: thank you, and um, I think Jack will see you
Speaker 1: at the fight in a couple of we'll see sir.
Speaker 1: The boys my best, Matt appreciate it. Next up one
Speaker 1: of our other favorite segments. I just like talking about
Speaker 1: the bag. I love when these guys are getting their money.
Speaker 1: I need some of it. Past thems that ship over here.
Speaker 1: We got fan questions. Jack go ahead and started off
Speaker 1: fad questions, Young Dot King KP. Who do you think
Speaker 1: was the biggest nub in the top seventy five list
Speaker 1: of all time. Oh, I mean, there's there's been much
Speaker 1: debate about this. Uh. To me, the top guys uh
Speaker 1: in the conversation should be Dwight Howard, Tracy McGrady, and
Speaker 1: Clay Thompson. If I'm forgetting the one forgive me to me,
Speaker 1: all three of those guys should have been in there.
Speaker 1: I think d White because we're in such a what
Speaker 1: have you done for me lately that everyone forgets how
Speaker 1: dominant this dude was for the first nine ten years
Speaker 1: of his career until you know, until he had that
Speaker 1: bad back injury and rushed back with the Lakers. Uh,
Speaker 1: to me, he was one of the scariest dominant big
Speaker 1: men we've seen. Tracy McGrady an instant bucket, riddled by
Speaker 1: injury throughout his career, but tremendous score when he was
Speaker 1: on the court. And then what the fund can you
Speaker 1: say about Clay Thompson? This dude is a winner. Uh
Speaker 1: does his job to a t one of the greatest
Speaker 1: shooters we've ever seen. You know. When I was looking
Speaker 1: at that list, Jack and obviously to be on that
Speaker 1: this is a tremendous thing, but was reading about some
Speaker 1: of the older players. And you never really want to
Speaker 1: knock none of the older players, but some of those
Speaker 1: dudes couldn't play in today's game period, or couldn't even
Speaker 1: play back when we played it. Just their game wouldn't translate.
Speaker 1: So you you know, when you see guys like the
Speaker 1: White and t mac and and and Clay missed the
Speaker 1: cut because they put some of these older guys in there,
Speaker 1: although they were you know, beneficial for back in the day.
Speaker 1: If we're just talking about the seventy five straight ballers
Speaker 1: that they're supposed to represent this league, some of those
Speaker 1: old head shouldn't have been on there. In my opinion. Well,
Speaker 1: I I agree with you, Matt, and you have everybody
Speaker 1: around the basketball we're calling this guy the most skilled
Speaker 1: complete player of all time as a point guard, and
Speaker 1: how is he not on there? And I guess people
Speaker 1: just you know, they love you one minute, they hate you,
Speaker 1: they love you again. But how is Kyrie Irban not
Speaker 1: on his level? Yeah? I forgot you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, like like like these people
Speaker 1: are stuck in that they're just stuck in in the
Speaker 1: now and just just on some bs. But there's no
Speaker 1: That's why I say, I don't. I don't really pay
Speaker 1: attention mat because me personally, it's about thirty motherfucker's on
Speaker 1: that list that I would have bust they ad you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So so I don't want to
Speaker 1: have to cut you off. Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: Do you think that Kyrie was snubbed due to nothing
Speaker 1: on the court, but maybe some of the off the
Speaker 1: court stuff in your personal opinion? No question? If you're
Speaker 1: talking about basketball, how could he not be right? I agree,
Speaker 1: I definitely forgot Kyrie, but I mean skill wise, people
Speaker 1: not working with him, so I mean He's lists are crazy.
Speaker 1: I always see and I hate to see it because
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously I worked for ESPN, so I appreciate
Speaker 1: that check. But the list they be coming up with,
Speaker 1: like I just laugh at those lists sometimes, like who's
Speaker 1: picking these fucking lists? Obviously it's people who haven't played.
Speaker 1: To me, I want to know the qualifications for the
Speaker 1: people who are picking these. I don't know, list is
Speaker 1: is whatever, But you always see, like I said, the
Speaker 1: ESPN list is always ranking people and had Kobe like
Speaker 1: at the backside of ten one time, and it's just
Speaker 1: to me, like they need certain people with certain qualifications
Speaker 1: to make these kind of lists, because sometimes I think
Speaker 1: people who never touched the game, and although you could
Speaker 1: be a reporter or I think they's gotta be more
Speaker 1: players picking these lists because we were the ones out
Speaker 1: there grinding, fighting and have a different appreciation and respect
Speaker 1: for these guys night and night out. So those lists
Speaker 1: are hard to make, obviously, And and it's been such
Speaker 1: a talented league. Uh, you know, there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of snubs every time you make a list, but
Speaker 1: you know, obviously those are four notables that should have
Speaker 1: definitely been on the list. Next up Lepertron Chris. Who
Speaker 1: was a player who's under the radar that can be
Speaker 1: a star? A good question? Uh, the player that's under
Speaker 1: the radar that could be a star, that's a good question.
Speaker 1: M I'll let you answer that one first, but I
Speaker 1: gotta thank you. I'll start actually now shout out the
Speaker 1: Sacramento Kings since they're paying me. I got a new
Speaker 1: job over there. Game game. Uh. But as far as players,
Speaker 1: I like, they got a young kid out of Baylor,
Speaker 1: man Davean Mitchell, and I've been able to see him
Speaker 1: up close these first few games. And when I tell you,
Speaker 1: Jack this motherfucker is probably one of the best on
Speaker 1: ball defenders um I've seen in a long time. He's
Speaker 1: matched up with Dame and and and c J. His
Speaker 1: first game definitely held his own. Uh Donovan Mitchell, who's
Speaker 1: someone he looked up to. He gave Donna Mitchell fits
Speaker 1: the other night guarded steph uh really well uh the
Speaker 1: other night. So to me, I think this kid who
Speaker 1: for rookie to come in on the with the defensive
Speaker 1: focus and be able to be that effective because you know,
Speaker 1: obviously defense is the hardest cut thing to kind of
Speaker 1: pick up rotations and coverages and all that kind of
Speaker 1: ship when first come in the league, and this kid,
Speaker 1: it's second nature to him. And talking to the coaching
Speaker 1: staff over there, they said, this kid is really talented
Speaker 1: on the offensive end. Two once he kind of finds
Speaker 1: his footing. So give this kid to me two or
Speaker 1: three years and and I think Davean Mitchell out there
Speaker 1: in Sacramento is gonna be a star. Nice We'll stay.
Speaker 1: We'll stay with that one. At tyler n seven Underscore
Speaker 1: Proudest Father Moment, y'all have experienced ps best podcast out there,
Speaker 1: no question. We appreciate the Tyland this ninety seven score. Man,
Speaker 1: appreciate the little appreciate you t uh father moment. Man,
Speaker 1: I get him every all the time, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: being a father's great um. But I just think, um,
Speaker 1: my run with the with the Warriors at the end,
Speaker 1: you know, being hurt, um and not getting to play
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, but being a part of that championship team.
Speaker 1: My favorite part was that the twins were along for
Speaker 1: the ride the whole entire time. I think Steve Kerr
Speaker 1: touched on that um when I had a chance to
Speaker 1: interview him. But you couldn't tell these kids they didn't
Speaker 1: win a championship and they weren't on the Warriors when
Speaker 1: we were on that stage. They were trying to check
Speaker 1: the m v P trophy from KD, trying to take
Speaker 1: the championship trophy from staff. They were all over ESPN.
Speaker 1: So just to see give my kids a chance to
Speaker 1: be experiencing, uh, you know what it's like to be
Speaker 1: at the top of the top of the food chain. Um,
Speaker 1: that was really dope moment for me and the boys.
Speaker 1: Uh for me, I have so many I have a
Speaker 1: lot as well because I have a lot of girls.
Speaker 1: You're a lot of you a lot of kids period. Yeah,
Speaker 1: five girls, man, so I think uh probably. Um. The
Speaker 1: one I can't remember most is my family celebrates Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: every year and they say whatever, everybody says what they
Speaker 1: thankful for. My daughter says she thankful for everyone if
Speaker 1: her dad always have enough back. That meant a lot
Speaker 1: to me, you know what I mean? My daughter said
Speaker 1: was my daughter was seven years old, and it made
Speaker 1: the whole house cry. So so yeah, that was done.
Speaker 1: Those those touching moments are always going extra way. And
Speaker 1: call me Kawan, where do you think Ben Simmons could
Speaker 1: be moved two that would benefit him and the Sixers
Speaker 1: other than Portland's good question. I mean the only thing
Speaker 1: I could think of is you know Kyrie. I agree,
Speaker 1: and I think I don't know. Maybe what scares them
Speaker 1: to move the situation is do you mean you know
Speaker 1: what Kyrie brings you when he's locked in and on
Speaker 1: the court. But again, we respect people for their decisions
Speaker 1: with the with the vaccination and that just may not
Speaker 1: be an option for them. So I mean, I think
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons over in Brooklyn would be scary. Definitely be scary.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know a lot of talent around him,
Speaker 1: another big body that can handle the ball, move the ball,
Speaker 1: get the ball to the score. So that's the only
Speaker 1: team that really comes to mind, although I'm sure there's
Speaker 1: some other teams out there to work, but that's what
Speaker 1: comes to mind for both of us. Last fan question,
Speaker 1: your boy l Ray. If k D and Lebron called
Speaker 1: both of you before the playoffs, would y'all sign with
Speaker 1: l A. Brooklyn. I think it would be an honor,
Speaker 1: but it's just not in me no more. I haven't. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm coming up on five years where I haven't really
Speaker 1: done no ship like that. So I try to play
Speaker 1: in a celebrity uh Rams flag football game like a
Speaker 1: month ago, bro, And I was telling myself the whole time,
Speaker 1: just you know, pace yourself, pace yourself. I was doing good,
Speaker 1: Like right before halftime on the same play, pulled my
Speaker 1: fucking my hamstring and my calf. So I'm out the question.
Speaker 1: But what about you? You still you still work around
Speaker 1: a little bit, you could do it still? Well, let
Speaker 1: me say this is Matt. I'm gonna need two months
Speaker 1: in advance to get my body right. But if I,
Speaker 1: if I really had an opportunity just to play like
Speaker 1: ten minutes, twelve minutes, something like that. Just going to
Speaker 1: shoot threes and defend a little bit. I could, but
Speaker 1: if they asked in a laugh for me, not at all.
Speaker 1: My body ain't got it. What team would you go?
Speaker 1: Would you go to the Lakers and Nets? Um? Either are?
Speaker 1: You can't lose? Right straight up? Closing thoughts, We gotta
Speaker 1: welcome someone to the family, one of my brothers, Jelanni
Speaker 1: Jerome McCoy. Welcome ro Ro joins as a content creator
Speaker 1: development partnerships across all Showtime Basketball. You know they say,
Speaker 1: when you know, when you make moves, you gotta bring
Speaker 1: your folks with you, you know what I mean? And
Speaker 1: I think that this is definitely one of those things.
Speaker 1: You know, Gilani has been with me for a minute. Uh.
Speaker 1: I like to call him, you know, obviously uh an
Speaker 1: NBA vet. But he's like a seven ft nerd. And
Speaker 1: I don't mean that in a bad way. This dude
Speaker 1: is just super smart when it comes to the technological
Speaker 1: side behind the scenes. This dude is the mastermind. So
Speaker 1: he's definitely gonna be a great asset for our team.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. We gotta smoke one to celebrate
Speaker 1: bro Yes, Welcome roron, Yes, Sir. Next up. Carmelo Anthony
Speaker 1: moves into ninth all time on the scoring list, passing
Speaker 1: the late great rest in Peace Moses Malone. Jack. No
Speaker 1: surprise here, no surprise at all, Man Melow somebody like men,
Speaker 1: you've both been high on, somebody we loved, even loved
Speaker 1: to compete the gets. And I'm happy he's getting this. Dude. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm getting happy to continue to get more records and
Speaker 1: and get more accolades for himself. But also now he
Speaker 1: gets a chance to fight for a championship before he
Speaker 1: in his corper. So I'm happy. But I'm happy about that.
Speaker 1: This dude's a bucket getter, you know. And I saw
Speaker 1: the game the other night against UM Memphis when he
Speaker 1: passed Mos Malone, and it was something that I've seen.
Speaker 1: It seems like that he can do for another two
Speaker 1: three years, you know what I mean. It's seamless. Is
Speaker 1: his pull up jumpers on point, his mid range is
Speaker 1: on point. He can still post up smaller players. Um,
Speaker 1: this dude is a walking bucket. So you know, very
Speaker 1: happy for our brother that he's in ninth place. I
Speaker 1: think next up on the list of Shaquille O'Neil found
Speaker 1: my mistake and I think that's going to take another season,
Speaker 1: but I definitely think he's got it in him to
Speaker 1: pass Shack as well. So Man, so hats off to
Speaker 1: our brother Man. Keep pushing and get your ring this year. Bro,
Speaker 1: be on the lookout. This week iverson Classics, something that
Speaker 1: Jack is a big part of. Many Doc teaser drops
Speaker 1: later in the week full Many Doc will drop November
Speaker 1: ONEE Jack, real quick, how important is it to you
Speaker 1: to team up with them? And also tell us what
Speaker 1: else you're doing on the women's side as well for
Speaker 1: this iverything classic and kids trying to help them take
Speaker 1: that next step. Yeah. Along along with the Obviouson Classic,
Speaker 1: you know, me and Bobby based shot the Bobby and
Speaker 1: everybody from the Obviously Classes job Manzelle. We've created two
Speaker 1: other games, you know, the Battot and the Bluff, and
Speaker 1: also a female female high school game as well. But
Speaker 1: the Obviouson Classic especially to me because I played the
Speaker 1: McDonald's game. I played in other games, but if I
Speaker 1: had a chance to play in Allen Obson High School Classic,
Speaker 1: I would have loved too, because it's somebody who we
Speaker 1: all looked up to and somebody gave us confidence to
Speaker 1: be who we are, so it means last man. I'm
Speaker 1: happy to be a part of it, and we just
Speaker 1: continue to build and to build more games and more
Speaker 1: opportunities for kids coming up after us. Big shout out
Speaker 1: to Showtime, Showtime Basketball and Brian Daily for jumping on
Speaker 1: and getting involved in programs like they use to bring
Speaker 1: more visiting and opportunity to these kids. I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: the Showtime family. We've got a great recipe over there, man,
Speaker 1: So we love and appreciate you guys. Keep putting on
Speaker 1: for the kids, Keep putting on for us as we
Speaker 1: put on for you. Shout Memphis too, Yeah, absolutely, always
Speaker 1: shout out Memphis. In closing. You can catch What's Burning
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