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Speaker 1: Welcome back to what's burning? Jackie good? Good? My bro

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Speaker 1: was the word. Man, I can't call it. The weather

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Speaker 1: right to its. Starting with the week ahead, The Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles Lakers got their first win Sunday night against a tough,

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Speaker 1: be great. Um, definitely definitely deserve that contract money well spent. Yes,

427
00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,040
Speaker 1: great investment to me, I think we're gonna finally see

428
00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,920
Speaker 1: the Alonzo Ball. We all knew he was capable of being.

429
00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,920
Speaker 1: Obviously the Lakers, we know what happened there. Uh, New

430
00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,800
Speaker 1: Orleans didn't really get along too much in the in

431
00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,719
Speaker 1: in that system. Um, although Zion Williams really did not

432
00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,560
Speaker 1: want him to go. Now in Chicago again, this team

433
00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,560
Speaker 1: plays fun, free, fast, that's his style of play. He's

434
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Speaker 1: running the show. Uh So, definitely great investment. Next up

435
00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,800
Speaker 1: our man to Martin Rosen keeps getting bag. He signed

436
00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,920
Speaker 1: a three year, eighty two million dollar deal. Already know

437
00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,359
Speaker 1: what your answer is gonna be on this, but I

438
00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:09,520
Speaker 1: have to ask it. Great investment or questionable investment? Great

439
00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,240
Speaker 1: investment man, definitely great investment. Um, if you can get

440
00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,879
Speaker 1: a guy like de Martin Rosen uh Med rage killer

441
00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,359
Speaker 1: guaranteed to get you twenty one to twenty five points

442
00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:21,040
Speaker 1: a game, gonna compete and the big shot maker. Um,

443
00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:22,760
Speaker 1: you know, I like it. I like it all of

444
00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:27,120
Speaker 1: it around. Yeah, agreed. Another great investment of veteran presence,

445
00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,600
Speaker 1: who's who who's been through the battles can help this

446
00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,359
Speaker 1: younger team and with some guidance and veteran leadership along

447
00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,240
Speaker 1: with his play. Um to me, I think that the

448
00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,880
Speaker 1: Bulls are a top three at worst top four UM

449
00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,399
Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference. I'm excited to see if they

450
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,400
Speaker 1: can stay healthy with this team could do. Make sure

451
00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,919
Speaker 1: you check out our brother Dion Taylor, one of the

452
00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:52,360
Speaker 1: hottest new black directors in Hollywood. His episode is dropping

453
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:58,360
Speaker 1: this Thursday, October. Enjoy the teaser. Who are your film influences?

454
00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,879
Speaker 1: Spike Lee? John sings in at him and specific films?

455
00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,760
Speaker 1: Are song or artists who expired you to Mont John?

456
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:09,119
Speaker 1: You know I knew John very well. Rest in Peace.

457
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,480
Speaker 1: Incredible man. I only got to know him for a

458
00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,040
Speaker 1: short time. I met John in a very weird way.

459
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 1: I met John at an event and uh, I had

460
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,560
Speaker 1: end up talking about a couple of films that I

461
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,000
Speaker 1: was trying to put together at the time, and Free

462
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,960
Speaker 1: Agents was one of those films. And I had just

463
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:30,679
Speaker 1: finished doing the movie called Supremacy rehearsal Ali and Danny Glover,

464
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:35,080
Speaker 1: and I was getting washed with that film. Man like,

465
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 1: we had made this incredible movie and we could not

466
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 1: find a distribution for at home for I'm like, man,

467
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,159
Speaker 1: what is going on? He pulled me to the SIDEHI

468
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 1: was like, man, this is just what the business is

469
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 1: for you as a black filmmaker. A couple of months later,

470
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want to do no more

471
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 1: serious films. I would have did this movie Meet the Blacks.

472
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 1: And John was the first person to call me opening

473
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 1: Night and Meet the Blacks and sent me a picture

474
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Speaker 1: of the ticket. He was like, Nigga, this the funny

475
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 1: shit out of Sea, and I remember just being like, damn,

476
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 1: this is crazy. Got on the phone with him and

477
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 1: you know, and kept in touch with him. But he

478
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 1: was always a great person in terms of like not

479
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 1: always but over the course of time, he would always

480
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 1: pop up at the right time to say something great,

481
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And but John is a

482
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 1: huge influence because I love what he was about. But

483
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 1: I really really love the brandon of Tyler Perry obviously,

484
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 1: you know, doing it his own way, building his own thing.

485
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 1: But I'm a giant Stephen Spielberg fan. Man, I think

486
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: Spielberg is incredible just for the simple factor what I

487
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,959
Speaker 1: told you earlier, Like I love the fact that, you know,

488
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,199
Speaker 1: although he's not a black man, I love that he

489
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 1: jumped genres and did it the right way. So you

490
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 1: think of color, purple, think of et you know what

491
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 1: I mean. Like, these are completely different films and Jaws,

492
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 1: you know. And I just love that. Man. I've always

493
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 1: been like, man, I'm gonna be ever to be that

494
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 1: prolific as a black filmmaker in the space. We have

495
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 1: a very special guest for you guys today. L hef

496
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Speaker 1: A Stephen Espinoza, President of Showtime Sports. Steve Man, thank

497
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,160
Speaker 1: you and your busy schedule for making time to talk

498
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 1: to me and Jack today. I just I just wanted

499
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 1: to make real clear from the outset, this was a

500
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 1: lot of requirement. It's a lot forced upon you. There's

501
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,199
Speaker 1: legitimate I'm a legitimate guest here there. You got's what

502
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,919
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. But hey, Jack, But Jack, when you

503
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 1: know when you got l president and your show, that

504
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 1: means your show is doing well and it's not going nowhere.

505
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 1: Just just having them on our show ext hell a

506
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,640
Speaker 1: little bit, we got a little sense of security. Absolutely. Hey,

507
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 1: well let's get to it. Steve, you came on set

508
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 1: one day when we when we had ad reads and

509
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 1: we were trying to do the Homeland ad reads. What

510
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: were your thoughts after hearing me funk up eighteen times?

511
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 1: And Jack have to catch yourself a few times. Where

512
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: did you think the future of this show was going,

513
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 1: if there was a future for it. Uh, Look, it

514
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 1: didn't change my idea of the future of the show.

515
00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 1: I just look, everybody has their strengths. You know, everybody's

516
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 1: good at everything. So you know, it's sort of like,

517
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: you know, all all that big team around you, they're

518
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 1: excellent at bringing out you, putting your position to succeed.

519
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: That just wasn't a position in which you were succeeding. Right, Hey,

520
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 1: I don't. I still don't. Hey, I still don't think

521
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,239
Speaker 1: I know how to say it was that Manny how

522
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 1: you saying many Patinkin. Yeah, see, I I couldn't get

523
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 1: it. It It took me like eight nine shots. And in

524
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 1: the boss is sitting right there, I'm like, funk, we

525
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: might not have a job. We get done that damn it.

526
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: But uh but but on a real note, you know,

527
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 1: tell me your thoughts. Obviously, Showtime Basketball being fairly new

528
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: before we jumped on board. Um, you know you guys

529
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: struck gold. We struck gold would have been your thoughts

530
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: over the last two years of the growth of the

531
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 1: show heading into season three. I mean, being completely candid, Um,

532
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: you know, we had high hopes for the show, but

533
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: this has exceeded everything we really could have wished for. Um.

534
00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying this because I'm on with you guys. Um,

535
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: I've said it many times. I mean, you guys are

536
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 1: one of the top sports podcasts. You got there within

537
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 1: the first year, and you know you've arrived because I

538
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 1: I hear this all the time. I'm not sure people

539
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 1: say it to you, but I get pictures all the

540
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 1: time from people saying, well, it's the it's the all

541
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: the smoke of club. You know, we want to be

542
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: the All the Smoke of the NFL, you know, and

543
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,439
Speaker 1: when you start setting the stage, when you start, you know,

544
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 1: setting the curve for everybody else, you know, you've made

545
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: an impact in a very very crowded field because as

546
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: you guys know, you know, that's the biggest challenge in

547
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: podcasting is how do you you stand out? And you

548
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 1: guys have hit it out of the park in that respect. Yeah, Um,

549
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 1: coming November four, the best of All the Smoke returns

550
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: to the actual showtime linear Um tell us a little

551
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: bit about that. You know, we always envisioned this that

552
00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 1: in success, it would incubate other projects, you know, and

553
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: and doing the best of on the channel is sort

554
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: of is an easy one. And even you know, regular

555
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: fans of this show, we've seen these, you know, I

556
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: hear really good feedback because we're packaging them up a

557
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: little bit, you know, differently. You know, fifteen episodes every

558
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: Thursday starting November four, you know, paired with Jesus and Marrow,

559
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: and you know, this is an opportunity to sort of,

560
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: you know, put a slightly different format, revisit some of

561
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,239
Speaker 1: the best of y'all stuff, and we're happy to do it.

562
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: It it belongs on the network. One thing that I

563
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: really love over here, and obviously shout out Brian Daley

564
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: who's listened to this right now. I just love the creativity.

565
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 1: I think. You know, like you said, Stephen, we're able

566
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: to package stuff up a little different, you know what

567
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: I mean, We're not just giving you the same raw

568
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: cut of something else, but we're able to package it up,

569
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: slice it up and different. And then and the one

570
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: thing I appreciate it we've I mean, to me, we're

571
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 1: more than a podcast, and I think we've continued to

572
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: prove that. But you guys have allowed us to be

573
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: creative within this space because like you said, there's hundreds

574
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: of thousands, if not millions of podcasts out there, and

575
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: I think what obviously Jack and Eyes Dynamic is special.

576
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: But you guys allow us to be creative within this space,

577
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: and to me, that's what continues to allow us to

578
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: raise the bar. And now people are trying to emulate

579
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: what we're doing. You're you're right, calling you a podcast

580
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: is starting under selling it. Um, what you guys have done,

581
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 1: either with Irison Classic or starting to highlight HBC used, Um,

582
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 1: you know that's that's not just sitting down in front

583
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 1: of the microphone and go and stream of consciousness. Um,

584
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: you guys are creative types and again exceeded our expectations. UM.

585
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 1: You know Bryan Daily was when he brought it to me,

586
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: he was he was sort of your your biggest advocate,

587
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: and we had high hopes. Um. But again you guys

588
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: have exceeded that, not just in and what you've achieved,

589
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: but in the creative what you're bringing to the table

590
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: outside of the podcast. KG doc um premiers Friday, November twelfth.

591
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 1: What was your first impression of KG when you met him?

592
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: And we can what can people expect from this doc

593
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 1: as well? Two questions. Well, it's funny you guys know

594
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: no kge, so feel free to disagree. But you know,

595
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of guys who on the field

596
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: and off the field, or on the court and off

597
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: the court, are different guys. You know, some guys transform

598
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: you step you step onto the court, you transformed into

599
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 1: your alter ego. UM. You know Dame Lillard, you know

600
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: he's a he's a beast on the court. He's pretty

601
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: quiet off the court. Um. KG. I was surprised to

602
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: find out when we first met him. Um, he's he's

603
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: that guy. Twenty four hours a day. I feel like

604
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: KG rolls out of bed just hype to be up

605
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: in the morning, talking loud in your face, you know, intensity,

606
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: and you know it's just it's it's great energy. I

607
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: met him strangely enough, when we were on an NBA trip.

608
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: It was a preseason trip. The Nets were touring China

609
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: and we were all on a flight from from JFK

610
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 1: to UH Shanghai or Beijing, and I got introduced in

611
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: that flight and we just started talking boxing. Pretty soon

612
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,239
Speaker 1: they had to separated us because we were making too

613
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: much noise and keeping the rest of the plane apart.

614
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,479
Speaker 1: And think that's when, uh, you know, that's when at

615
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: that point, you know, we started talking about the dock

616
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: and now probably five six years later we started talking

617
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: about seriously, and you know, at this point, you see

618
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: it's a good reminder, you know, Kg. It's been so

619
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 1: long since KG came into the league. People have forgotten

620
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: what a trailblazer he was, whether it's financially, whether it's

621
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 1: you know, setting the stage for more players to come

622
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: from high school, the kinds of things that he did.

623
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: I mean, AI gets a lot of credit rightfully so

624
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: that KG was the same kind of trailblazer. Agreed. Shout

625
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: out to our guy, Eric Newman. Been working diligently for

626
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: a long time on this, on this KG dot. We

627
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: know it's dropping dex follow up questions, what what can

628
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: we what what what can our fans and what can

629
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: we what can our fans expect from this? Uh, it's

630
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: the personal side. I mean, there's there's one thing, you know,

631
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: we probably could have done a eight part doc with

632
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: KG aside from his energy. You guys know, he's he's

633
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: got to be one of the best storytellers I've ever

634
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: recounted anything. I mean, the way he tells stories, you

635
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: just sit there and before you know it, it's a

636
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: forty five minute story and you're on the ground laughing

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Speaker 1: and crying and thinking. And that's that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it really is the toughest part of making

639
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Speaker 1: that talk is figuring out what goes in and what

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Speaker 1: doesn't go in, because you know, you've got three or

641
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Speaker 1: four docks, you know, in his life, absolutely two is

642
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Speaker 1: gonna be a big you know, big time for Showtime sports,

643
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Speaker 1: Showtime Basketball in particular. We're welcoming Paul Pierce to the family.

644
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Speaker 1: KG is already the Mixed kg's got a podcast coming out.

645
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Speaker 1: Can you speak to some projects that our fans should

646
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Speaker 1: be expecting In two I'll go into slightly different direction,

647
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Speaker 1: but i'll bring back to you. We have a John

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Speaker 1: McEnroe dock h you know, coming up, and that's one

649
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Speaker 1: that really hasn't been visited in you know, in a

650
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Speaker 1: really heavy duty, full way. And I sort of feel

651
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Speaker 1: like McEnroe was the Matt Barnes or Stephen Jackson of

652
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Speaker 1: tennis at that point. You know, he was you know,

653
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Speaker 1: he didn't care what you thought. He went out there

654
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Speaker 1: did things his way. Um, it's been a whild look,

655
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Speaker 1: that's early eighties was his real heyday. And people think

656
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Speaker 1: about tennis and it's you know, the white outfits and

657
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Speaker 1: having tea at Wimbledon and things like that. That's not

658
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Speaker 1: John mcilrolle. You know, John McEnroe was. It was a

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Speaker 1: g I mean, all you have to do is go

660
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Speaker 1: to the garden and see what kind of hero. You know,

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Speaker 1: mclroe is still to this day to now how he

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Speaker 1: sort of changed tennis and and actually became a New

663
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Speaker 1: York City icon. That's hard to do as a tennis player. Right,

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Speaker 1: We've got another one from from Kevin Durant which is

665
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Speaker 1: right up your guys alle. Uh. He did one for

666
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Speaker 1: us last year on PG County and looking at you

667
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Speaker 1: know how that became a breeding ground for some great players. Uh,

668
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Speaker 1: he's looking at you know, he and his partner, which Kimen,

669
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Speaker 1: are looking at New York City point guards, you know,

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Speaker 1: in that history, and more interestingly, like asking the question

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Speaker 1: why you know we can all think of when you

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Speaker 1: say New York City point guard, there's a particular type

673
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Speaker 1: that you can think of, and why is that? You know,

674
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Speaker 1: And there's there's a lot of reasons sort of about

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Speaker 1: New York City and growing up and playing in the

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Speaker 1: city and what kind of game you developed here? Mm hmmm,

677
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Speaker 1: I like that like that and then uh kg podcast,

678
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Speaker 1: Am I hearing that correctly as well? Same thing. You know,

679
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: there's just so much good content. It's it's it's a waste.

680
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Speaker 1: You know, it might end up being the world's longest podcast.

681
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: I don't know how to put that down. You know,

682
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Speaker 1: it just might be a continuous stream of consciousness for

683
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Speaker 1: hours and hours on end. But it won't be boring,

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Speaker 1: that's for sure. Speak to obviously, I felt like it

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Speaker 1: was unjust m Paul Pierce was let go of ESPN, um,

686
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Speaker 1: you know, for stuff they thought didn't fit on brand. UM.

687
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: I think he was a great pick up for our

688
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Speaker 1: team and our family speak to what we can see

689
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Speaker 1: expect from Paul Pierce. I feel like the truth is

690
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,719
Speaker 1: is a great nickname. Um. You know, obviously it applied

691
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Speaker 1: to him on the court, but he fits in right

692
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: in with you guys and a lot of our other talent,

693
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Speaker 1: a lot of other programming where he's not afraid of

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Speaker 1: the truth um. And where a lot of guys when

695
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Speaker 1: that happened with that, that sort of thing happened, and

696
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Speaker 1: and he left ESPN, a lot of guys would have

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Speaker 1: shut down, UM, not Paul Pierce. He you know, he

698
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Speaker 1: addressed it, addressed it continuously, wasn't apologetic, you know, and

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Speaker 1: he was just you know him, you know. And we're

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Speaker 1: happy to give him another opportunity because he's a unique voice. Absolutely,

701
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Speaker 1: And last but not least, the education of Matt are

702
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Speaker 1: absolutely what's up with that? Hell haf a? Like I said, look, this,

703
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Speaker 1: that was more than we bargained for. We didn't know

704
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Speaker 1: we were going to get a TV Star scripted series

705
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Speaker 1: gotta gotta roll in there. Couldn't do it without Stack

706
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Speaker 1: as well. And I don't think there's anything like it

707
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Speaker 1: in television. I can't think of another one, uh that's

708
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Speaker 1: like it because it's not it's not really about sports. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's about a guy who played sports, but a really

710
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Speaker 1: a really interesting guy dealing with the transition from one

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Speaker 1: part of his life to another. And again it's it's

712
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Speaker 1: all real like this stuff, you know. It's one of

713
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Speaker 1: those situations. One of the things that I say sometimes

714
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Speaker 1: about boxing is it's hard to do a good fictional

715
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Speaker 1: movie about boxing because the stuff that happens in real

716
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Speaker 1: life is way crazier than anything you can make up fictionally.

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Speaker 1: And that's I think that applies to me Barnes life.

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Speaker 1: We don't need to make stuff up. Let's just take

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Speaker 1: the stuff right, it's actually happening, and that's an interesting series. Right. Yes. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited, man, to be starring and producing, uh in

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Speaker 1: my own show on this platform, and it's been a

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Speaker 1: dream come true. So again, we appreciate that Jack is

723
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Speaker 1: gonna be obviously right right there alongside of me making

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Speaker 1: his acting debut as well. So man, we're excited to

725
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Speaker 1: get to work to that uh early next year. Moving

726
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Speaker 1: on to boxing, How has the boxing landscape changed since

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Speaker 1: you came into it and what is it like present day? Well, look,

728
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Speaker 1: it's sort of it's the same thing, um that is

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Speaker 1: affecting society and other sports. And I'd say the biggest

730
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Speaker 1: thing is social media, um, and not just the existence

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Speaker 1: of social media, how it's changed the dynamic It is

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Speaker 1: given athletes in general, um, an independence on autonomy, an

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Speaker 1: ability to sort of directly engage, build their fan base,

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Speaker 1: get their story out, and and and really even monetize it.

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Speaker 1: You know, starting with college now all the way through

736
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Speaker 1: your career. It so no longer as a fighter reliant

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Speaker 1: on promoters and traditional media to be able to get

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Speaker 1: his story out, to build a fan base, to speak

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Speaker 1: his truth. And I think that's a really powerful thing. Um.

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Speaker 1: Now it's gone already so far that you know, now

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Speaker 1: you have people who have built huge fan bases, like

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Speaker 1: a Jake Paul, who have now used that to leverage

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Speaker 1: their way into the sport. I would never have predicted that. Um. Look,

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Speaker 1: I think it's an interesting development. There's definitely a lot

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Speaker 1: of interest out there in the business, but that would

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Speaker 1: not have been possible without social media. Agreed, Let's talk

747
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Speaker 1: about these Philly fighters, two guys that I'm close friends

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Speaker 1: when guys and fans of jaredy and Its and Stephen

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Speaker 1: cool boy Fulton. What do you think about these guys

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Speaker 1: in the fights they got coming up Philly? Philly has

751
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Speaker 1: a great history, you know, you talk about New York

752
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: City point guards, and you know, there are certain guys

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Speaker 1: that come to mind, whether Roder Strickland or Kenny Anderson

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Speaker 1: and Mark Jackson. When you say Phil the fighter, you

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Speaker 1: think of a gritty, tough guy. Joe Fraser, Bernard Hopkins,

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Speaker 1: like probably the two biggest names UM. And in Jeron

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Speaker 1: Ennis and Stephen Fulton, you have two of the guys

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Speaker 1: who could very well be carrying the sport over the

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Speaker 1: next few years, I mean my money. And Jeron Ennis

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Speaker 1: is arguably you know, the best fighter under you know

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Speaker 1: in the sport UM and it's gotten really tough to

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Speaker 1: get him fights, you know, because that's not he has

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Speaker 1: not shown a weakness yet. You know. Stephen Fulton is

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Speaker 1: a really exciting young fighter as well. He's in a

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Speaker 1: big fight on November unifying the title against Brandon figaroa UM.

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Speaker 1: You know, and you talk to these two guys. You know,

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Speaker 1: Steven's a you know, a big personality. Gern is a

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Speaker 1: little bit more reserved. But once they're in the ring,

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Speaker 1: you see the dog, and the dog comes out and

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Speaker 1: that's where you see that Philly fighter. November six, shout

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Speaker 1: out to Islaia and Carter Barns. They will be thirteen

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Speaker 1: that day. But also another important thing on that day

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Speaker 1: is Canello steps back in the ring versus Plant. Uh

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Speaker 1: what intrigues you most about this matchup? The consensus pound

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Speaker 1: for pound number one fighter in the sport, you know,

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00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: pretty clearly the biggest draw on this court. It's it's

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to see you know, Lebron step query of boxing.

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00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: But this particular fight, um, the first time we've got

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Speaker 1: an undisputed hundred and sixty eight pound champion at least potentially.

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Speaker 1: Never been anybody in that division that has done that before,

781
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: had all four belts, and it's only been happened across

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00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 1: any division six times at all. So you know people

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00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: complained too many champions. Well, look, whoever wins that fight,

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Speaker 1: you know they are the champion. They've got all the

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Speaker 1: belts division, and that's a big thing for Canello even

786
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Speaker 1: with everything he's accomplished, and it's even a bigger thing

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Speaker 1: Plant to be on the world stage. But the interesting

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Speaker 1: thing about Plant is we we don't know how good

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Speaker 1: he is. You know, he is undefeated, um, but he

790
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Speaker 1: has not faced anyone in the caliber of Canelo, So

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody can really tell you what's going

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Speaker 1: to happen. You know, Canelo is obviously only got the

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00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: one loss to Void Mayweather. He's been dominant elsewhere. Um,

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Speaker 1: But here we go, we have a little bit of

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Speaker 1: an unknown quantity. You know. They're only way to tell

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Speaker 1: how good a guy is you put him in with

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Speaker 1: an elite fighter and see what happens. Yes, certain, well, Steve,

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Speaker 1: thank you, and um, I think Jack will see you

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Speaker 1: at the fight in a couple of we'll see sir.

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Speaker 1: The boys my best, Matt appreciate it. Next up one

801
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: of our other favorite segments. I just like talking about

802
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: the bag. I love when these guys are getting their money.

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00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: I need some of it. Past thems that ship over here.

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00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: We got fan questions. Jack go ahead and started off

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00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: fad questions, Young Dot King KP. Who do you think

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Speaker 1: was the biggest nub in the top seventy five list

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Speaker 1: of all time. Oh, I mean, there's there's been much

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Speaker 1: debate about this. Uh. To me, the top guys uh

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Speaker 1: in the conversation should be Dwight Howard, Tracy McGrady, and

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Speaker 1: Clay Thompson. If I'm forgetting the one forgive me to me,

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Speaker 1: all three of those guys should have been in there.

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Speaker 1: I think d White because we're in such a what

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Speaker 1: have you done for me lately that everyone forgets how

814
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Speaker 1: dominant this dude was for the first nine ten years

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Speaker 1: of his career until you know, until he had that

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Speaker 1: bad back injury and rushed back with the Lakers. Uh,

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Speaker 1: to me, he was one of the scariest dominant big

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00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: men we've seen. Tracy McGrady an instant bucket, riddled by

819
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Speaker 1: injury throughout his career, but tremendous score when he was

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Speaker 1: on the court. And then what the fund can you

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Speaker 1: say about Clay Thompson? This dude is a winner. Uh

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Speaker 1: does his job to a t one of the greatest

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Speaker 1: shooters we've ever seen. You know. When I was looking

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Speaker 1: at that list, Jack and obviously to be on that

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Speaker 1: this is a tremendous thing, but was reading about some

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Speaker 1: of the older players. And you never really want to

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Speaker 1: knock none of the older players, but some of those

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Speaker 1: dudes couldn't play in today's game period, or couldn't even

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Speaker 1: play back when we played it. Just their game wouldn't translate.

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Speaker 1: So you you know, when you see guys like the

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Speaker 1: White and t mac and and and Clay missed the

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Speaker 1: cut because they put some of these older guys in there,

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Speaker 1: although they were you know, beneficial for back in the day.

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Speaker 1: If we're just talking about the seventy five straight ballers

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Speaker 1: that they're supposed to represent this league, some of those

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Speaker 1: old head shouldn't have been on there. In my opinion. Well,

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Speaker 1: I I agree with you, Matt, and you have everybody

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Speaker 1: around the basketball we're calling this guy the most skilled

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Speaker 1: complete player of all time as a point guard, and

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Speaker 1: how is he not on there? And I guess people

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00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: just you know, they love you one minute, they hate you,

842
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Speaker 1: they love you again. But how is Kyrie Irban not

843
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Speaker 1: on his level? Yeah? I forgot you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, like like like these people

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Speaker 1: are stuck in that they're just stuck in in the

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Speaker 1: now and just just on some bs. But there's no

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Speaker 1: That's why I say, I don't. I don't really pay

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Speaker 1: attention mat because me personally, it's about thirty motherfucker's on

849
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: that list that I would have bust they ad you

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00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So so I don't want to

851
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: have to cut you off. Let me ask you this.

852
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: Do you think that Kyrie was snubbed due to nothing

853
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: on the court, but maybe some of the off the

854
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: court stuff in your personal opinion? No question? If you're

855
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 1: talking about basketball, how could he not be right? I agree,

856
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 1: I definitely forgot Kyrie, but I mean skill wise, people

857
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: not working with him, so I mean He's lists are crazy.

858
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: I always see and I hate to see it because

859
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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously I worked for ESPN, so I appreciate

860
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: that check. But the list they be coming up with,

861
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 1: like I just laugh at those lists sometimes, like who's

862
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: picking these fucking lists? Obviously it's people who haven't played.

863
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: To me, I want to know the qualifications for the

864
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: people who are picking these. I don't know, list is

865
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: is whatever, But you always see, like I said, the

866
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: ESPN list is always ranking people and had Kobe like

867
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: at the backside of ten one time, and it's just

868
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: to me, like they need certain people with certain qualifications

869
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: to make these kind of lists, because sometimes I think

870
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: people who never touched the game, and although you could

871
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 1: be a reporter or I think they's gotta be more

872
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: players picking these lists because we were the ones out

873
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: there grinding, fighting and have a different appreciation and respect

874
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 1: for these guys night and night out. So those lists

875
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: are hard to make, obviously, And and it's been such

876
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: a talented league. Uh, you know, there's gonna be a

877
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: lot of snubs every time you make a list, but

878
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: you know, obviously those are four notables that should have

879
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: definitely been on the list. Next up Lepertron Chris. Who

880
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: was a player who's under the radar that can be

881
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: a star? A good question? Uh, the player that's under

882
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: the radar that could be a star, that's a good question.

883
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: M I'll let you answer that one first, but I

884
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Speaker 1: gotta thank you. I'll start actually now shout out the

885
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Speaker 1: Sacramento Kings since they're paying me. I got a new

886
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 1: job over there. Game game. Uh. But as far as players,

887
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: I like, they got a young kid out of Baylor,

888
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: man Davean Mitchell, and I've been able to see him

889
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: up close these first few games. And when I tell you,

890
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: Jack this motherfucker is probably one of the best on

891
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,479
Speaker 1: ball defenders um I've seen in a long time. He's

892
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: matched up with Dame and and and c J. His

893
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: first game definitely held his own. Uh Donovan Mitchell, who's

894
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: someone he looked up to. He gave Donna Mitchell fits

895
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: the other night guarded steph uh really well uh the

896
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: other night. So to me, I think this kid who

897
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: for rookie to come in on the with the defensive

898
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: focus and be able to be that effective because you know,

899
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: obviously defense is the hardest cut thing to kind of

900
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: pick up rotations and coverages and all that kind of

901
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: ship when first come in the league, and this kid,

902
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: it's second nature to him. And talking to the coaching

903
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: staff over there, they said, this kid is really talented

904
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 1: on the offensive end. Two once he kind of finds

905
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: his footing. So give this kid to me two or

906
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: three years and and I think Davean Mitchell out there

907
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: in Sacramento is gonna be a star. Nice We'll stay.

908
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: We'll stay with that one. At tyler n seven Underscore

909
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: Proudest Father Moment, y'all have experienced ps best podcast out there,

910
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: no question. We appreciate the Tyland this ninety seven score. Man,

911
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 1: appreciate the little appreciate you t uh father moment. Man,

912
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: I get him every all the time, you know, you know,

913
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: being a father's great um. But I just think, um,

914
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: my run with the with the Warriors at the end,

915
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: you know, being hurt, um and not getting to play

916
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, but being a part of that championship team.

917
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: My favorite part was that the twins were along for

918
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 1: the ride the whole entire time. I think Steve Kerr

919
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: touched on that um when I had a chance to

920
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,959
Speaker 1: interview him. But you couldn't tell these kids they didn't

921
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: win a championship and they weren't on the Warriors when

922
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: we were on that stage. They were trying to check

923
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: the m v P trophy from KD, trying to take

924
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: the championship trophy from staff. They were all over ESPN.

925
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: So just to see give my kids a chance to

926
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Speaker 1: be experiencing, uh, you know what it's like to be

927
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: at the top of the top of the food chain. Um,

928
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: that was really dope moment for me and the boys.

929
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: Uh for me, I have so many I have a

930
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: lot as well because I have a lot of girls.

931
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Speaker 1: You're a lot of you a lot of kids period. Yeah,

932
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: five girls, man, so I think uh probably. Um. The

933
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 1: one I can't remember most is my family celebrates Thanksgiving

934
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: every year and they say whatever, everybody says what they

935
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: thankful for. My daughter says she thankful for everyone if

936
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: her dad always have enough back. That meant a lot

937
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: to me, you know what I mean? My daughter said

938
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: was my daughter was seven years old, and it made

939
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: the whole house cry. So so yeah, that was done.

940
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: Those those touching moments are always going extra way. And

941
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 1: call me Kawan, where do you think Ben Simmons could

942
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: be moved two that would benefit him and the Sixers

943
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: other than Portland's good question. I mean the only thing

944
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: I could think of is you know Kyrie. I agree,

945
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 1: and I think I don't know. Maybe what scares them

946
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: to move the situation is do you mean you know

947
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: what Kyrie brings you when he's locked in and on

948
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 1: the court. But again, we respect people for their decisions

949
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: with the with the vaccination and that just may not

950
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: be an option for them. So I mean, I think

951
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons over in Brooklyn would be scary. Definitely be scary.

952
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you know a lot of talent around him,

953
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: another big body that can handle the ball, move the ball,

954
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: get the ball to the score. So that's the only

955
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: team that really comes to mind, although I'm sure there's

956
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: some other teams out there to work, but that's what

957
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: comes to mind for both of us. Last fan question,

958
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: your boy l Ray. If k D and Lebron called

959
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: both of you before the playoffs, would y'all sign with

960
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: l A. Brooklyn. I think it would be an honor,

961
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: but it's just not in me no more. I haven't. Man,

962
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: I'm coming up on five years where I haven't really

963
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: done no ship like that. So I try to play

964
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: in a celebrity uh Rams flag football game like a

965
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,919
Speaker 1: month ago, bro, And I was telling myself the whole time,

966
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: just you know, pace yourself, pace yourself. I was doing good,

967
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: Like right before halftime on the same play, pulled my

968
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: fucking my hamstring and my calf. So I'm out the question.

969
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,959
Speaker 1: But what about you? You still you still work around

970
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: a little bit, you could do it still? Well, let

971
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: me say this is Matt. I'm gonna need two months

972
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: in advance to get my body right. But if I,

973
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: if I really had an opportunity just to play like

974
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: ten minutes, twelve minutes, something like that. Just going to

975
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: shoot threes and defend a little bit. I could, but

976
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: if they asked in a laugh for me, not at all.

977
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: My body ain't got it. What team would you go?

978
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: Would you go to the Lakers and Nets? Um? Either are?

979
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: You can't lose? Right straight up? Closing thoughts, We gotta

980
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: welcome someone to the family, one of my brothers, Jelanni

981
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: Jerome McCoy. Welcome ro Ro joins as a content creator

982
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: development partnerships across all Showtime Basketball. You know they say,

983
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: when you know, when you make moves, you gotta bring

984
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: your folks with you, you know what I mean? And

985
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: I think that this is definitely one of those things.

986
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: You know, Gilani has been with me for a minute. Uh.

987
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: I like to call him, you know, obviously uh an

988
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: NBA vet. But he's like a seven ft nerd. And

989
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 1: I don't mean that in a bad way. This dude

990
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: is just super smart when it comes to the technological

991
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: side behind the scenes. This dude is the mastermind. So

992
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: he's definitely gonna be a great asset for our team.

993
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. We gotta smoke one to celebrate

994
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: bro Yes, Welcome roron, Yes, Sir. Next up. Carmelo Anthony

995
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: moves into ninth all time on the scoring list, passing

996
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: the late great rest in Peace Moses Malone. Jack. No

997
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: surprise here, no surprise at all, Man Melow somebody like men,

998
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: you've both been high on, somebody we loved, even loved

999
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: to compete the gets. And I'm happy he's getting this. Dude. Man,

1000
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm getting happy to continue to get more records and

1001
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: and get more accolades for himself. But also now he

1002
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: gets a chance to fight for a championship before he

1003
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: in his corper. So I'm happy. But I'm happy about that.

1004
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 1: This dude's a bucket getter, you know. And I saw

1005
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: the game the other night against UM Memphis when he

1006
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: passed Mos Malone, and it was something that I've seen.

1007
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: It seems like that he can do for another two

1008
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: three years, you know what I mean. It's seamless. Is

1009
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 1: his pull up jumpers on point, his mid range is

1010
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: on point. He can still post up smaller players. Um,

1011
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: this dude is a walking bucket. So you know, very

1012
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: happy for our brother that he's in ninth place. I

1013
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 1: think next up on the list of Shaquille O'Neil found

1014
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: my mistake and I think that's going to take another season,

1015
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: but I definitely think he's got it in him to

1016
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: pass Shack as well. So Man, so hats off to

1017
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: our brother Man. Keep pushing and get your ring this year. Bro,

1018
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: be on the lookout. This week iverson Classics, something that

1019
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: Jack is a big part of. Many Doc teaser drops

1020
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 1: later in the week full Many Doc will drop November

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00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: ONEE Jack, real quick, how important is it to you

1022
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: to team up with them? And also tell us what

1023
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: else you're doing on the women's side as well for

1024
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: this iverything classic and kids trying to help them take

1025
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: that next step. Yeah. Along along with the Obviouson Classic,

1026
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: you know, me and Bobby based shot the Bobby and

1027
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: everybody from the Obviously Classes job Manzelle. We've created two

1028
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: other games, you know, the Battot and the Bluff, and

1029
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: also a female female high school game as well. But

1030
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: the Obviouson Classic especially to me because I played the

1031
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: McDonald's game. I played in other games, but if I

1032
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: had a chance to play in Allen Obson High School Classic,

1033
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: I would have loved too, because it's somebody who we

1034
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: all looked up to and somebody gave us confidence to

1035
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: be who we are, so it means last man. I'm

1036
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: happy to be a part of it, and we just

1037
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: continue to build and to build more games and more

1038
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 1: opportunities for kids coming up after us. Big shout out

1039
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: to Showtime, Showtime Basketball and Brian Daily for jumping on

1040
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 1: and getting involved in programs like they use to bring

1041
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: more visiting and opportunity to these kids. I mean, obviously

1042
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: the Showtime family. We've got a great recipe over there, man,

1043
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: So we love and appreciate you guys. Keep putting on

1044
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: for the kids, Keep putting on for us as we

1045
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: put on for you. Shout Memphis too, Yeah, absolutely, always

1046
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: shout out Memphis. In closing. You can catch What's Burning

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Speaker 1: every week on Showtime Basketball YouTube and on Twitter, Instagram

1048
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Speaker 1: and TikTok at show Basketball. We're on TikTok now to

1049
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Speaker 1: look at us touching the youth. See y'all next week.