1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome for the official Good Morning Football Podcast. 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm Will Selvin. You're the best moment this week so 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: far at the breakfast Table. Super Bowl fifty three has 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: come and gone from a record setting low score to 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: an Edelman MVP. There was plenty to break down, so 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: let's take a listen to what's going on at the 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: breakfast table. Thirty two point nine points per game for 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: the Rams this season, but it was not the offensive 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: explosion we were all expecting from these two quarterbacks in 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: this Super Bowl matchup. The sixteen gobine points the fewest 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: between two teams in all Super Bowl history. Gentlemen, biggest 12 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: takeaway as we sort of I don't know, I feel 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: like I've sort of like hungover from everything that happened 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: and was trying to piece it together here this morning. 15 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: Biggest takeaway. Julian Edelman is incredible. You know, one of 16 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: the best post season wide receivers of all time. He's 17 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: second to Jerry Rice, and catches he passes Michael Irvin, 18 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: and yards second to Jerry Rice, of course. And then 19 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: when you look at yards in the Super Bowl, how 20 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: about this right here? Jerry Rice number one with five 21 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: eighty nine. Lynn Swan three sixty four. You know, his 22 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: third on list, Julian Edelman with three thirty seven, just 23 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: ahead of Andre Reid. The other three guys on that 24 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: list are Hall of famers. Julian Edelman has shown up 25 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: big in the biggest of moments, and I get it 26 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 1: if you want to sit at home and argue and say, Nate, well, 27 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: what about his regular season? What about Pro Bowls? Julian 28 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: Edelman for his entire career, is played for the most 29 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: diverse offense in NFL history. He's not asked to put 30 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: up fifteen hundred yards every year. He's asked to show 31 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: up big in the biggest moments. And to me, that's 32 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: not just one of the best wide receivers in the postseason, 33 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: that's a Hall of Fame wide receiver. My takeaways Julian 34 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: Edelman monster six hundred yard games in the postseason For Edelman, 35 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: the offense heat was definitely the superstar, well deserving of 36 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: the MVP. My takeaways that if I could give away 37 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: an MVP last night, it would be Brian Flores. Just 38 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: take it, take it and go. We're talking offense and 39 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: how that's what's ruling the NFL. No defense won this 40 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: thing for them. They forced eight punts in the first 41 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: eight possessions for the Ramps, where the second best offense 42 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: and points per game in the National Football League this season. 43 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 1: They sacked off four times, at the second most he's 44 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: been sacked all year. They hit him twelve. He had 45 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: been a hit more than eight times in a single 46 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: game this season. That interception to Gilmore, you guys, I 47 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: was waiting for it. I knew it was coming because 48 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: they had pressured him the entire game, made him uncomfortable, 49 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: erased the run. Girley couldn't really find a rhythm. It 50 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: was all so obvious all game long. And after that 51 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: Titans game, I talked about this a lot leading up 52 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: to this game. Something happened. They adjusted after the bye 53 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: after getting blown out by Tennessee. They've allowed just sixteen 54 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: point eight points a game that has top five in 55 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: a league. The defense word to turn around. They came 56 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: to play. They lose. Patrick Chung Floras still gets it done. 57 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: And if you are a Miami Dolphins fan this morning, 58 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: this is the one Patriots when you can get behind, 59 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: because that's the kind of guy you're getting next season. 60 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: Big day for the Dolphin. You mentioned Kay the hangover 61 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: that we have, and part of that is being irritated. 62 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: I'm this morning, I'm mad at the Rams, and I 63 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: think I speak for people who had Super Bowl parties yesterday, 64 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: who invited their friends over and plan the Rams offense. 65 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: What the hell was that? What the hell was that? 66 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm talking about starting the game with eight straight punts, 67 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: getting nothing from Todd Gurley Again, Sean McVey comes out 68 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: and says, afterwards, I got out coached. We know, Sean, 69 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: you back badly out coach. I love you, man, but 70 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: but Belichick just put you over his knee. I'm tired 71 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: of you know what. The most frustrating part is, you 72 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: had a spanking last night. Yeah, I gotta think got 73 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: a big he might have got paddled last night. Peter. 74 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: There was never a trick play this crazy innovation. They 75 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: hadn't They couldn't get it going against the Saints, right, 76 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: they ran something nuts, they jump started the thing. They 77 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: come out even in the third quarter when they had 78 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: nothing and that first drive becaud Gurley gets a run. 79 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: Maybe we got it then girly nothing, girly not the 80 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: incomplete punt. I hate it. Where were the adjustments? I 81 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: feel like McVeigh adjusted his offense fewer times than Adam 82 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: Levine adjusted himself last night. It was nothing. And you 83 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: know what I'm thinking during that game, somebody gave me 84 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: the Saints on a plane. Can we get the Saints 85 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: here for thee and half? Because I know Drew Brees 86 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: would not have been held the three points. I know 87 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: they would not have been blanked. I'm sitting there frustrated 88 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: not to dig up the scar tissuet. The Rams didn't 89 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: show up on offense. I'm all things. They're changing the game. 90 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: I'm a genius. You're not changing squat. Give me the 91 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: Saints on a plane because they actually would have given 92 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: us something. I hate it, you know what I'm saying it. Look, 93 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to discredit the Rams victory over the Saints, 94 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: but I will say this. I spoke with McVeigh last 95 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: week in LA. I was in the building. I'm like this, 96 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: guys are dialed in. Spoke to them yesterday before the game. 97 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: I'm on the field, I'm talking to Sean and he's saying, 98 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: we got it. We're good, we feel good. These guys 99 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: are great. We're up walked up and down that Ram 100 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: sideline talking to all the players. They were dialed in, 101 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: they thought they had the game plan. They got the 102 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: Mike Tyson treatment. They got punched in the face and 103 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: they never recovered punched back. The Chiefs were shut out 104 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: in the first half of the AFC Championship game. They 105 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: came back and scored thirty one points on thirty one 106 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: plays against the Patriots. The Rams were shut out and 107 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: they scored three points. I am disappointed in the Rams 108 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: and pig takeaway is what do we make of this team? 109 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: Because there are going to be free agents? Was this 110 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: a flash in the pan? And if it is a 111 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: flash in the pan, what do we make of McVeigh. 112 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: It was a two week build up of the greatest 113 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: coach of all time, this wonderful, wonder kid. Guess what 114 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: he got his lunch served to him yesterday? How does 115 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: he respond? Because I know right now he's frustrated, he's 116 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: in pain. But I'm not sure there's any answers to 117 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: how you could have changed things. That was horrendous. Well said, 118 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: We've got more of takeaways here at the This is 119 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: a breakfast table. There's no there's no breakfast on it. 120 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: Maybe there's should be in the next couple of Hours movie, Batcakes. 121 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: Hello after this from Atlanta. This is a good morning football. 122 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: Sony Michelle's touchdown in the fourth quarter was his sixth 123 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: of the postseason. That's the most buy a rookie. That's 124 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: wild an NFL history and postseason. Sony Michelle are the 125 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: many heroes for the Patriots last night, Bill Belichick and 126 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: Brady of course, let me remember their legacy set six 127 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: super Bowl six Lombardi trophies. Edelman has his thing going 128 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: on being named the MVP Best Beard in the game. 129 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: Who goes down though as the unsung hero for the 130 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: pad side of things in Super Bowl fifty three, I'll 131 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: go with my boy Kyle vanois, you know, former Lions 132 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: player who was basically traded away for scraps and then 133 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: he shows up to the legam Patriots and plays at 134 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: a high level. My men had three tackles, one sack, 135 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: two tackles for loss, and three QB hit three QB hits. 136 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: And there's a reason why Jared Goff at times was 137 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: uncomfortable while he's throwing off his back leg while he's 138 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: skipping a couple of balls, because he had that pressure 139 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: in his face all game long. A big part of 140 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: why the Rams had just sixty two yards and three 141 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: point four yards a carry, because my man was flying 142 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: all over the field. So the unsung hero is cal 143 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: vanois listen And this comes after the ANC Championship game 144 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: where he had ten tackles, two sacks, and a force fumble. 145 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: So Kyle vanois a guy who when he was traded 146 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: away just another bus. Let's see if Patriots can make 147 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: him special. Well, guess what they did. I'm gonna go 148 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: with to Ron Herman. It was interesting. John Harmon has 149 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: been there for a long time. He played one snap 150 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: in the first half once app Patrick Chung goes down 151 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: with the injury. To Ron Harmon makes maybe the biggest 152 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: play that won't show up in the stat line on 153 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: the interception that Stefan Gilmore had. The Patriots had now 154 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: blitzed all game. No zero blitz is nothing. They've been 155 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: completely conservative. Then they sent the dogs and it was 156 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: to Ron Harmon On that interception by Stefan Gilmour, who's pressure. 157 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: If you watch the play, it's number twenty one who 158 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: comes and makes Jared Goff slip. An unbelievable performance by 159 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: Harmon who comes in after the Patrick Chung injury, and 160 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: that is so the Patriot way, so the Patriot way 161 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: that this guy's been there forever. One snap in the 162 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: first half. This is not a Malcolm Butler situation. He 163 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: was ready to play when they gave it to him, 164 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: and he made the play of the game that won't 165 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: show up in the statoye. And Chung's a hard player 166 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: to sort of you can't just grab anybody to do that. 167 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: The veteran leadership, the things that that he has to 168 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: sort of make those into adjustments and he really plays 169 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: like eighteen different positions out there. So everybody stepped up. 170 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: Shelton and obviously Harmon Gilmore, the entire defense sort of 171 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: came together as a team once it happened. I'm gonna 172 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: go with mccordy though, Jason mccordy, it was a storyline 173 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: that I was obsessed with going into the Super Bowl. 174 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: I got to work with dev I know him very well, 175 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: and they he always wanted to play with his brother 176 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: and his brother Jason for the last eight years with 177 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: the Titans, and then he played for the winless Browns. 178 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: Gets to the postseason for the first time this year 179 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: as a Patriot, and really this play right here, golf 180 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: holds onto the ball a second too long, and it 181 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: is a beautiful breakup by mccordy. Brandon Cooks robbed of 182 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: a touchdown which would have changed the game in my opinion. 183 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: So him making two really brilliant pass breakups and this one, 184 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: this one clearly the most memorable one. He is the 185 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: unsung hero. He's the one who stood at the podium 186 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: yesterday and he said, we put up the headlines of 187 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: you saying we're too old, we suck. And he got 188 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: up off the podium and bounced. And I loved that 189 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 1: edge from the mccordy brother. I love that too. It 190 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: was a great story and at a storybook ending, Oh yeah, 191 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: I would be lying to myself if I wasn't being genuine. 192 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: Here there's Hall of Fame players, superstars. For most of 193 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: the night, this was a battle between two Oregon State punters. 194 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: And I'm not even kidding, all right. So Ryan Allen, 195 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: the Patriots punter, and Johnny Hecker. This is what this was. 196 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: And let me tell you about Ryan Allen. Last year 197 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, he does not punt a single time. 198 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: No punts in this one. Three times he pinned the 199 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: rams inside the seven yard land, and I'm not just 200 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: being funny. The way the Patriots defense was playing that 201 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: ends the drive right there. That is incredibly huge deal. 202 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 1: Three times and it's all it's always Slater down there 203 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: downing it. At one point in the game, Johnny Hecker 204 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: has the longest punt in Super Bowl history and it 205 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: was the highlight of the game. They played it in 206 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: the stadium, they put it up to people start cheering. 207 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: It's these two guys against each other. I saw some 208 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: stuff on Twitter that at one point before Julian started 209 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: getting off that if the if the Patriots offense and 210 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: not figured it out, that Ryan Allen was going to 211 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: get MVP chatter for the way he was punting. So 212 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: I will give you that. From zero punts in the 213 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: Super Bowl to one of their biggest weapons in the 214 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, Ryan Allen, Oregon State beaver who outduels Johnny Hecker. 215 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: That's it, guys, that with that game was about three 216 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: That's what it was. The Super Bowl much more ahead 217 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: with Peter and Kyle and Nate and a masterful performance 218 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: again from Bill Belichick, so many wins. His sixth ring 219 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: trays used the word pulverized to describe what he did 220 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: to this high flying offense for the Rams, and I 221 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: keep thinking, was this his best performance? But then it's 222 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: really hard for me to think that anything could be 223 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: better than a very improbable twenty eight to three comeback. 224 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: That said, this is a team that lost to the Steelers, 225 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: that lost to the Titans, that lost Josh Gordon, that 226 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: didn't start with a one that had forty one year 227 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: old quarterback, and they somehow adjusted and made it happen. 228 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: This might be the most impressive playoffs for the Patriots 229 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: for playoffs. Indeed, K I agree with you, and I 230 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: would go back even further. I'd say over the off season, 231 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: everyone's unhappy. Yeah, you've got you know, Brady's physical trainer 232 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: is on the plane? Is he not on the plane? 233 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: At the on the facility Brady was on, it didn't 234 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 1: show up. And then you had all the players that 235 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: were lost, Dion Lewis and Nate Soldier, list goes on, 236 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler, whoever you want to name people legitimately thought 237 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: it was over. I'm one of them. I thought the 238 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: Chiefs this was their year, and I was proven wrong. 239 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: I gotta shoe in my mouth right now, and I've 240 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: got egg all over my face, and Belichick did it again. 241 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: This guy is unbelievable. He found a way. It was 242 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: all season long, and yeah, okay, that playoff run and 243 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: that December turnaround, that special stuff. Not a lot of 244 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: coaches can do that. Yeah. I got this size twelve 245 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: in my mouth as well and scrambled eggs all over 246 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: the mouth face. You know. The middle of the season, 247 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: I looked at the camera and said that the Pagots 248 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: aren't going to make the Super Bowl, said this isn't 249 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: your season. You guys won't make it. And they came 250 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: at me and they said, Nate, just ride the wave. 251 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: We will be there. And guess what they hear. I 252 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: would say that it is as fine as coaching performance. 253 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: It's his latest, and if it's his latest, it's as greatest. 254 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: So for me, I love the fact that he's able 255 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: to motivate these men that really needed motivation. This question 256 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: comes down to, was this better than the last Patriots 257 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: Ram super ye the ultimate shocker? And my answer is yes. 258 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: I look at that last Patriots seem to beat the Rams. 259 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: I see ty Law, I see Willie McGinnis, I see 260 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: Richard Seymour. I don't see those guys on this defense, 261 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: they had an incredible night. They don't have those studs Juggernauts. 262 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: They don't have the Juggernauts, and they just saw the 263 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: Rams with three points. I think it's Belichick's greatest performance 264 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: ever in the Super Bowl. Edeldog finished with one hundred 265 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: forty one receiving yards. Guys, let's do a little believe 266 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: it or not here in Atlanta. This is the fewest 267 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: points any team is scored in winning the Super Bowl. 268 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. As great as Edelman was, 269 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: and he was twelve targets, clutch plays, should a defensive 270 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 1: player have won Super Bowl MVP? Yes, I believe it 271 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: should have happened. Kay, I think it should have been 272 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: Stefinn Gilmore. There's almost kind of an unwritten rule though, 273 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: to get the defensive MVP. EFP score a touchdown. Malcolm 274 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: Smith scored a touchdown, Larry Brown scored a touchdown. Von 275 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: just wrecked the whole world. Edelman was great, he didn't score. 276 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: We can get into the numbers of it. Gilmore, It's 277 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: not just the interception you see in the highlight. Packs 278 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: hit a forced clumbole. He hit three pass breakups and 279 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: five tackles of all people. Big Calais Campbell from the 280 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars last night was watching the game and tweeted 281 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: out furious that stuff found Gilmore did not when I 282 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: got five thousand retweets. I feel like the defensive players 283 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: around the league were always very sensitive about rules and 284 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: penalties thought this was supposed to be there to night, 285 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: and I happen to agree with them. Stephan Garlmore was 286 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: a monster. I mean, I don't want to argue with 287 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: you because argue Nate. If he would have got it, 288 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: I would have been fine with it. But I will 289 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: argue with you because if Julian Edelman doesn't have the 290 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: game that they have, the game is not at at 291 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: three and it comes down to a field goal like 292 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: we've seen in Lennya's Super Bowls. They held the Rims 293 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: at three points in night. The defense was really good, okay, 294 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: but if Julian Edelman doesn't have the game that he has, 295 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: they will move the ball like they did. They had 296 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: five hundred yards last year without Julian Ediman in the 297 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and Julian Edim had one forty one this 298 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: year and too, and he only converted three downs in 299 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: this entire game. All of them were Edelemen. Talk about it. Now, 300 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: let me actually this, Kyle, if Julian Edelman didn't play 301 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: in this game, would they win? I don't know. Maybe 302 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: Chris Helgan could have done it. Chris. I love Chris Holgan. 303 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: He's one of my favorite players. You couldn't get open yesterday. Nah. 304 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: But if you say this, what do you got? It's 305 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: easy to pile on that thought, right, darnay. But to 306 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: Kyle's point, all season has been offense. Fifty four fifty 307 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: one was a game we saw this year, Saints Ram's 308 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: Chiefs gotta we heard it all. This was a defensive game. 309 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: This is defensive game. And if it was a defensive game, 310 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: you could say the best defensive player on the field 311 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: should have won the most valuable player. Stefan Gilmour was 312 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: the best defensive player on the field for either team. 313 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm with Kyles when it would one hundred percent been 314 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: justified Stefano, who was a first team All Pro all 315 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: season and the best player in their defense all year. 316 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: Is it such a crime in a thirteen three game, 317 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: in the era of big offenses to actually reward the 318 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: defensive player. I said that I agree. The first thing 319 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: I said is if he would have got it, I 320 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: would have been okay with it. He had an amazing game. 321 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: Julian Edelman, from the start of the game to the 322 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: finish of the game, was the best player on the field. 323 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: To me, a buck forty one ten catches on twelve targets. 324 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: Not to mention, this is a defense that has and 325 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: Dominican sue aaronald Who's supposed to put presh On Brady 326 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: a key to Liba Marks Speter back in linebackers that 327 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: are supposedly the fastest in business. They bracket him, they 328 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: zone him, they man him. Joan Edelman still comes down 329 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: with big time place and not even in traffic. My 330 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: man was routing these dudes. It was open about three 331 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: or four yards. I'm saying, obviously I'm a little bit 332 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: biased because I'm an offensive player and a wide receiver. 333 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: Either guy could have won it. Sure, I just I'm 334 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: a firm believer that without Julian Edelman this game comes 335 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: down to a field goal, and with Gregg the legserline 336 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: on the other side, the Ramps could have kicked a 337 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: long one and won it. That's all I'm saying. Can 338 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: I shift gears on Edelman, JIMFB and memories. I remember 339 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, we did a whiteboard topic. Okay, 340 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: we're talking about Tom Brady, and the question was something 341 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: along the lines of when it's all setting down and 342 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: you close your eyes and think of Tom Brady's career, 343 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: who's the receiver that you think of that he's throwing too? 344 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: And I remember some of us said Troy Brown, and 345 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: I think Kay and Peters said it's West Welker for sure, 346 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: that's done. Now I think it's Edelman. I think it's Adam. 347 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: Adam's got three Super Bowl rings or two seasons later. 348 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: I love Welker, I love Dion Branch, I love Troy Brown. 349 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: When Brady's all said done with us, his guy through 350 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: Brady's career is number eleven. It's Edelman that's the guy. 351 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: And it's those postseason moments where he comes in clutch. 352 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: You don't talk with that field goal. That field doesn't 353 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: happen without that twenty five yard catch. The game winning 354 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: touchdown does not happened without a huge play by Edelman there. 355 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: I don't think Chris Hogan could do it because it's 356 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: great of a teammate as Edelman says, he is. It 357 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: is what Belichick's ed who's at the podium, a guy who, 358 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, has some gene that when the biggest 359 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: moment is there, when all the noise in the world 360 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: and that stadium is shaking, he does not lose his 361 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: nerve at all. Yeah, it's a Kyle's point. He used 362 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: to be the sidekick. It was like, oh, it's cute, 363 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: he's former quarterback. Now he's an equal. Super Bowl in thee. 364 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: I said it earlier in the show. I heard from 365 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: someone in Edelman's camp. He gets out of the locker room. 366 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: There's buses supposed to take the team back to the hotel, 367 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: but the MVP gets in an suv awesome, and they 368 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: point him there and he's like all right, gets in 369 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: with his friend and he's kind of still in the 370 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: meal moment. Then they opened the doors to the hotel 371 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: and there's a thousand Patriots fans at eleven thirty at 372 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: night outside of a hotel waiting to receive him. And 373 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: that's when Julian Edelman finally realizes it's about me. It's 374 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: not about the Patriot Way for a second, Can I 375 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: have a moment It's about me? He felt like a 376 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: rock star, and he is converted the only third downs 377 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: on the night, all three of them. We're all packed 378 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: to get back to New York, hopping on the flight 379 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: right after this out of Atlanta. Will be on Good 380 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: Morning Football the rest of the week, but we did 381 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: not pack the white boards specifically for this segment. Let's 382 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: have a little fun here on if you can play 383 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: along at home at hashtack GM if as we said 384 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: six as you said says six rings for Tom Brady 385 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: and Bill Belichick six. The non sports dynasty that reminds 386 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: you most of the Patriots is what okay, you guys 387 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: can't play along at home? It's kind of a red 388 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: wedding last night, just a little bit not great hashtag GM. 389 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: If you what do he got shrikes? I'll go first. 390 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: I'll go with the Boston rock band that's been doing 391 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: it since the seventies and everyone always thinks they're just 392 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: gonna eventually not have that high grew. I'm going with Arrows. 393 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: I'm going with Steven Tyler, Pie the whole crew, the 394 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: whole crew. These guys were in the seventies, relevant had 395 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: a little dip in the eighties, came back in the nineties. 396 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: Here we are two thousands. It's two thousand nineteen. They 397 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,719 Speaker 1: played one of the big events here in the Super role. 398 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: Everyone's been talking about the Aerosmith brought the house down. 399 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: I'm like Aerosmith. Yes, yes, Aerosmith. It doesn't matter the year. 400 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: They're still doing it. Give me Aerosmith, give me Boston 401 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: and sent Trady's got a gun, Baby, it's it. What 402 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: do you got, na? I have the perfect one. It's 403 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: a long lasting dynasty and a run of something that 404 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: some people have fatigue from. But if you really break 405 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: it down, you better respect these damn numbers. Talked about 406 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: it mass and furious. Man, all right, I don't like 407 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: a Nate. It's trash. It's not good acting. It's garbage. 408 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: That's true. Scoreboard Jack the number Okay, Tokyo Drift, that 409 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 1: one doesn't count, but the rest of them. No, that 410 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: was the Matt Castle season. The Tokyo Drift thing, it's 411 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: pretty good. Looks like you enjoyed it, Like the lived 412 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: life amount of time. I'll never get this. Put this 413 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: up right here. I want to check the numbers. I 414 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: never saw a single episode of the show. They got 415 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: one hundred and eight Emmy nominations one hundred and eight. 416 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: I feel like Belichick was like on the Browns was 417 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: like Frasier on cheers. Belicheck and the Browns was Frasier 418 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: on cheers. Then he goes to Patriots and he's a 419 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: different guy. I think McDaniels is your David Hyde pierced 420 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: mister Kraft is John mahoney in the chair. I never 421 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: saw Frasier. It dominated for an whole era, and there's polarizing. 422 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: That's the Patriots. Frasier Frasier cream, feasier cream. Let's keep 423 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: a coat here with a little whiteboard. Monday from Atlanta, 424 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: the Patriots held the league's second highest scoring offense to 425 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: three points. That's crazy. The Rams offensive performance in his 426 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty three was the biggest letdown since what 427 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: all right? I'll say a movie that got a lot 428 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: of hype, and when I saw it, I was like, 429 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: it's just I and it's actually fitting because this describes 430 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: the Rams offense. Not a fan of h was fantastic, 431 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: but it's like the offense. It was like, what's going on? 432 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: Where's where's Todd gurleya going with the choirt plays okay? 433 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: When that kid's little toy goes off. Man, my heart stopped. 434 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: You got it out of mine. Take the battery of 435 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: the stupid batteries and where do you think you're living? Um, 436 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: I'll give this an La reference too. When I was 437 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,239 Speaker 1: brand new in La, I was twenty three years old, 438 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of money, didn't know what I 439 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: was doing. I thought I'd go to the Santa Monica Pier. 440 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 1: That's a cool place to go. And I saw something 441 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: I've never seen before. I'm like, I gotta buy this, 442 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: and it was the biggest disappointment in my life. You 443 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: gotta be kidding me. With the Dippin' Dots ice Cream 444 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: of the future, one spoonful and spit it out. No 445 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: one who's eating Dippin' Dots doesn't want to just be 446 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: eating ice cream, the ice cream of the past and 447 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: the present. They have an ice cream of the future 448 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: for forty years Dippin' dots. That was what the Rams 449 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: did last night. Yes, I bought it from the Continental Arena. Delightful. 450 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: Go with this one. The last Netflix documentary you all 451 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: raved about. They're not all good. The stairs, Peter, you 452 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: have to do, you have to see You'll change your mind. 453 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: This No, no, This is the one way you're not 454 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: if you have to see. It's not filling a Fride festival. 455 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: Every one of them frie Festival. There's seven of these documentaries. 456 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: They're all gonna be in the Oscar make that the 457 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: fat Festival. Yeah, I've heard, I've heard. Look these Netflix documentaries. 458 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: Every day there's a new one. I've got to see. 459 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: I do all the time. There's only six parts each 460 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: parts four hours. You gott if you have to. I'm 461 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: an old school guy like Ken Burns. Give me a 462 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: good Civil War duck and I'm here for it. I 463 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: don't need this flash in the pan stuff. I haven't 464 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: watched it yet. You're not. I'll cut up. I will 465 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: see it eventually. This crazy one about Ted Bundy, I'm good. 466 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: I'm good. There was such a light subject matter too, 467 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: about serial killer. Yeah, all right, one more here out 468 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: of Monday, coming to you from Super Bowl fifty three, 469 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,479 Speaker 1: and that might have been last night. Right behind its 470 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski's final game. The fictional character. The best epitomizes 471 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: Gronk and the career of Gronk is what a fictional character. 472 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: I got it, I got it, thank you. I like 473 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: to hold it. This way it makes it cool. Um, 474 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: I feel like Carson. This guy right here, Jesse Pinkman 475 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: about Break. He is a young childlike lovable. He is 476 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: the sidekick to Walter White, who would be Brady. He 477 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: remember at the end, Pinkman wanted to escape. All he 478 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:13,719 Speaker 1: wanted was to get the hell out of there. He'd 479 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: been through so much his body and his mind. The 480 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: most lovable guy on the greatest show of the generation. 481 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,959 Speaker 1: Just like Brady, but just like Gronk on the Patriots. 482 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: Jesse pink it's great. I'm going with wreck it. Ralph. 483 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: I think this pretty much describes Gronc. I mean, he's 484 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: an absolute monster. Sometimes he's looked at as the bad guy, 485 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: but really he's a good guy. Without Without Gronk, they 486 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: don't win all these games. And on top of that, 487 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: when he decides to come back for one more year, 488 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: he's gonna break the internet. Is that you think he 489 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: and Vanelope he had a thing enough to tell a 490 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: friend Zone to friends Zone, We're gonna go back to 491 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: seventies television, A big hot spot on our show Happy Day. Hey, 492 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: you know he was the funds you know, I think 493 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: every Weekler was like forty five when he was playing 494 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: the Funds coolest guy in the world in somebody's garage. 495 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: His office was a bathroom and a diner, but it 496 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: was the coolest guy ever. Funds are really is anybody investigated? 497 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: It hangs out with these high school kids. He's like 498 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: forty anyway, Sorry, Peter, there's a special whiteboard segment from HL. 499 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: We can pack them up and take them back to 500 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: New York. Who guys ever guessed the same thing once 501 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: in three out three years of doing the show? Folks, 502 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: those guys are gonna do. Yeah, it's gonna do more money, 503 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: won't problems, It's gonna make fun of things. Meet anybody 504 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: are investigator born in nineteen thirty kids born in the 505 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: sixties after this? Obviously I agree with Ka on this one. 506 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: You can have to fund Gilmore or Brian Flores as 507 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: your mbps. Now, there are a lot of ideas flying 508 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: around the NFL after Sunday, some more believable than others. 509 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: Is Tom Brady the greatest player of all time? Did 510 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: we see the last of Gronk? Will Peter ever get 511 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: his voice back? We're seeing if we're buying into any 512 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: of it with a little believe it or not? The 513 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: time for another edition of Belief Believe it or not. Hey, 514 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: first statement, there's no arguing that Tom Brady is the 515 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 1: greatest quarterback of all time. But let's go step further here. 516 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: Tom Brady is the greatest football player of all times. 517 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: Is tough, dregs, Believe it or not? Okay. I got 518 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: heated with our producer in the morning. Meeting our producer. 519 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: I said, you can't do that's a that's a show. 520 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: That's not a three seconds, three hours. That's three hours. 521 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: That's the entire offseason. But I will present you another option. 522 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: That's what I'll do. Because Brady versus whoever, I'm gonna 523 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: go with Jim Brown. Jim Brown the legendary Brown's running back, 524 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: and it's because of the other ways that other people 525 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: revere him. It was before my time, sir. I don't know. 526 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: But when Jim Brown is in a room, as he 527 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: was at the NFL Honors, people stop in their tracks 528 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: and pay homage. It's different than Montana. It's differ than 529 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: the name of Jim Brown. Guys, really quickly the resume 530 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: if you need it. Played only nine years in the league, 531 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 1: led the league in rushing in eight of them, eight 532 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,479 Speaker 1: time first team All Pro. He averaged five point two 533 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: yards per carry over his career. Can I say when 534 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: they play somebody's highlights to a flute, you know it's 535 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: an old soul. Listen to this. In two thousand and two, 536 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,959 Speaker 1: he was voted the greatest player of all time when 537 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: they took a vote. All right, and there was twelve 538 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 1: teams in the NFL when he started, right, twelve teams 539 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: and he did it, broke the rushing record, broke everything. 540 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: Here's the one I love. Twelve games season. The rushing 541 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: record for single year was eleven forty six stood forever. 542 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: He comes in his second year in the league and 543 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: runs for fifteen twenty seven, runs for more than five 544 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: hundred more yards, and went insane, insane, and the way 545 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: others respect him. I'll put Jim Brown in the comment. 546 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: Brady's got the titles. Jim Brown might have the prestige. Also, 547 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: the greatest lax player every Yeah, he was All American 548 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: lacrosse player yeah. Um. And also they didn't pass the ball, yeah, 549 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: so they kind of knew that Brown was getting it. 550 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: He's going to get the ball. So we had this 551 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: question posed in the morning meeting in I immediately thought 552 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: Jim Brown, So you took him off the table. But 553 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: then I'll start breaking down the actual question. Right, the 554 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: best player ever? I guess with accomplishments, you can't argue 555 00:25:55,040 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: against Brady best football football football player. I'm going with 556 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: Deon Sanders, okay, because I feel like when he got 557 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: the ball in his hands, there was nobody that pumped 558 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: more fear into anybody in his era. Now, it's one 559 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: thing to be a shutdown. Oh my gosh, look at this. 560 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: Just I'm glad you answered this name. Just we watched 561 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: the highlights. One thank you one. One element being a cornerback, 562 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: I shut down cornerback. That's tough to do, right, we 563 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: don't get those every generation. To be one of the 564 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: best returners ever, that's tough to do. Like Devin Hester 565 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: did it. But that was pretty much all he did. 566 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: And then there were times where they actually put him 567 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: out there wide receiver and he made play. So it 568 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: gets You can break it down and say he wasn't 569 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: the biggest tackler in the world, and he moved around 570 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: a little bit, but wherever he went, he was fantastic. 571 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: Early in his career, when he landed somewhere, he won 572 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 1: a Championship, and when he touched the ball, he was dynamic, 573 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: and it got to the point where he was so 574 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 1: good at Steve Harvey said this, he was celebrating from 575 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: the forties. It got so bad that when other guys 576 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: would intercept the ball, they would immediately turn around and 577 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: look for Dan. These are the fastest, the strongest, the 578 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: most athletic men in the world getting paid money to 579 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: do a job. If you're a cornerback, go ahead and 580 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: return it out of yourself. Yeah, they're turn around and 581 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: give it to Dan. So for me, the best football 582 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: player ever is Dan Centers There. Not to mention you 583 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: also play Major League baseball. Yeah, and he hit three hundred, 584 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: and he hopped out a limb and ran the fastest 585 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: forty times ever. I'm just saying it, like legends or something. Yeah, legends, 586 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: versatility is for Dan. You gotta get you get really 587 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: caught up in the hair splitting of the terms here 588 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: best best player versus greatest and then greatest in companies, 589 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: encompasses legacy and contributions to society everything. I'm just gonna 590 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: keep its real simple and go with Jerry Rice. I'm 591 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: gonna go with Jerry Rice. Um I'm gonna actually give 592 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: it a modern tie, though, um, for what Rice has 593 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: accomplished and the numbers that he put up. Here's the 594 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: modern tie I've got. Look at this guy, Michael Thomas 595 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: on the Saints gotten off to an unbelievable start to 596 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: his career, right, Michael Thomas just had a fourteen hundred 597 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: yards season. Here's what he would have to do to 598 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: catch Jerry Rice's numbers. Michael Thomas, he has to have 599 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: fourteen hundred yards every single season for the next fourteen seasons, 600 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: the last of which you wou'd be thirty nine years old, 601 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: and then he can catch Jerry Rice. Don't forget my 602 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 1: friends is Montana and young. Yes, Jerry Rice was playing 603 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: wide receiver and forty two years old and catching touchdown 604 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: passes from Matt Hasselbeck. Still doing it. Forget about it. 605 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: Put it to bed Rice. That's my guy. We're praising 606 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: Julian Edelman for having one hundred and fifteen catches in 607 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: the postseason, which is amazing. Jerry Rice has one hundred 608 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,959 Speaker 1: and fifty one catches in the postseason. It's insane. Here's 609 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: the problem with your answers, and I like all of them. 610 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: Help me understand the winning part of it because we're talking, 611 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: as you very clearly said, greatest football player. To me, 612 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: that's the one who wins the most, has the most wins. 613 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: So how can you not give it to Tom Brady 614 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: If he has nine conference championships and nobody has more 615 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: rings than he does. That's where it gets a little tricky. 616 00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: And his quarterback, and he has more to do with 617 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: the game than any of those people do. Because you 618 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: were going to see another player do that. I don't 619 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: think we are. I feel like the guys that we named, 620 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: you put them in any other jersey. Yeah, they're still 621 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,719 Speaker 1: the greatest football players to ever play. Tom Brady goes 622 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: to to Cleveland Browns, he's not the goat. Jerry Rice 623 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: bowl rings, Dion's got two, I believe right. Yes, Jim 624 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: Brown didn't playing a Super Bowl, but an NFL championship. 625 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: Like they're all winners, but Brady's the greatest winner winner, 626 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: no doubt. Jim Brown was lesly in rushing eight to 627 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: nine years yeah and last early. Could have could have 628 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: played for more years, but left early to go to 629 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: Hollywood where he was a Hollywood style played fireball on 630 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: the running man. Well, he's in Mars attacks. Hello. Next 631 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: downbelieve or believe it or not? Next up? Super Bowl 632 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: fifty three was Rob Gronkowski's last NFL game ever. Believe 633 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: that or not? Kyle? Yeah, And I hate sad Gronk 634 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: and makes sad Kyle and everything like that. I am. 635 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: I want to read a quote here. This is from 636 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: the Boston Globe and he talked to Gronk a few 637 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: days before the Super Bowl. Uh. He said, there's ups 638 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: and downs right now, but try to imagine getting hit 639 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: all the time and trying to be where you want 640 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: to be every day in life. It's tough. It's difficult. 641 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: I take hits to the thigh. I take hits to 642 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: the head. Abusing your body. It's not what your brain wants. 643 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: When your body is abused, it can bring down your mood. 644 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: This is Gronk before the Super Bowl. I think it's 645 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: gonna happen. I think he's gonna walk away. It's be 646 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: very Gronk to walk away with a party on a 647 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: high note. And you know, I follow this story really 648 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: closely because it's near and dear to me. Everything you 649 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: read is that he has everything from standing offers from 650 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: Vince McMahon to wrestle afterwards. You always hear about he 651 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: saves all his money and lives off endorsement money. This 652 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: to me looks like a goodbye the way he spent 653 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: the week there. Again, I don't have sources. I'm not 654 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: connected inside the Patriots. I just have intuition in watching 655 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: him and what Gronk has a lot of other players don't. 656 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: Bronc has options. I think he's walking away. Yeah, he's 657 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: definitely a superstar on and off the field. You know. 658 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: I feel like once this settles down and Gronk sits 659 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: on his couch in this offseason, he walks around with 660 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: his brothers, and he goes and shoots hoops at the 661 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: local gym, he starts to feel like he's a little 662 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: bit healthy. In that Super Bowl, he didn't look like 663 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: old Gronk. He didn't look like the Gronk that was 664 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: falling apart. He looked like dominant Gronk. And there's something 665 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: to be said about the addiction that these Patriots have 666 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: to playing the game of football. Tom Brady is addicted. 667 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: He can't live without football. Nobody's like Junie Elleman grew 668 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: out his beard and didn't care because the only thing 669 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: that matter was winning a Super Bowl. Even though Gronk 670 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: has that demeanor that sometimes making a big goof he 671 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: loves the football. He loves football just the same. So 672 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: for me, I felt like this all seasons gonna come 673 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: around and he's gonna sit back and say, you know what, 674 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: I still want to play this game. And I'm glad 675 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: that you read that quote, because I got a quote 676 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: that I read and you know, it gets me emotional 677 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: every time that I read it. Quote. It simply just says, yo, 678 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: joy fiesta. I am party. He is party, and he 679 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: has a party on the field, and he doesn't want 680 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: to sit on his couch and not be part of 681 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: the sport. I'd say, twenty nine years old, no like. 682 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: But Gail Sayers retired after five years, Jim Brown retired 683 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: after nine years. Gronk has three championship rings. It's gonna 684 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: go down as the greatest ten end of his generation. 685 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: And I'd be in the conversation for greatest ten end 686 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: of all time. If he's not healthy and he's got 687 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: this new love in his life. His girlfriend is everywhere 688 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: with him, and he's satisfied personally and professionally, I would 689 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: not be shocked if we never see Gronk play again, 690 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: and there will be no knock to his career. He 691 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: ended on a great note. Three years did it write, 692 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: and he could have a party today. I almost don't 693 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: need to see Gronk play ever again because it ended 694 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: so perfectly. I totally agree. It's like a storybook ending 695 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: no player. We've heard Aaron Rodgers say it. So many 696 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: players don't get to leave on their own two feet 697 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: the way that they want to. If this was that, 698 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: more power to him, and I'd be happy for him. 699 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, Mike get all the credit. But 700 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: is there another Patriots player who's been behind the current 701 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: the entire time? We make our picks from the real 702 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: power player in Patriots Country. So let's look back at 703 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: the incredible run Tom Brady and but Belichick have had together. 704 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: Let's just go to the memory lane. Six super Bowl 705 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: wins in nineteen seasons. But aside from those two, who's 706 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: the Patriot that you most associate with that success? It's 707 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: a very interesting question because those two have given such 708 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: stability to the organization. But should all the credit be 709 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: given to them? Now? I feel like who's third? Yes, 710 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: the third guy? I will say, a third guy and 711 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: I feel like he actually is the first guy above 712 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: Billichick and Brady. You know, when you think about the championships, 713 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: right the six rings, you think about the Super Bowl appearances, 714 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: it's impressive, the consecutive AC title game, it's impressive. The 715 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: winning season, all that, it's impressive. But what's more impressive 716 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: than that being worth six point six billion dollars? A 717 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: guy who bought the Patriots for one hundred and seventy 718 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: two million dollars now were three point seven billion. The 719 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: guy who started a paper manufacturing conglomerate who said he 720 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: started on a hunch because he anticipated the global trade 721 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: was gonna kick up. How About a guy who also 722 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: has staken the New England Revolution, Marshall Maltz Ultimate Fighting Championship. 723 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: How about twenty seventeen, a guy who started the professional 724 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: video game team in Boston, part of the recently formed 725 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: overwatched eight Sports League, which is huge. If you don't know, 726 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: not you know? And how about this the most important 727 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: thing at all these numbers, all this wealth that he has, 728 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: he's donated over one hundred million to charities over the 729 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: course of his career. I get it. We'll praise Bill Belichick, 730 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: We'll praise Toman Brady, But there's a guy sitting above 731 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: it all that isn't above it all. He is one 732 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: of them. He comes down on the field. He's wearing 733 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: his Air Force ones, his suit, no tie, very casual. 734 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: He talks to the richest men and women in the world. 735 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: He shakes hands with the brokest people in the world. 736 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 1: He can share meals with the fancies of people and 737 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: also embrace the guy that's cleaning up the facility. Robert 738 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: Craft is a man of the people. I've never met him, 739 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: but when I see Bill Belichick and I see Tom Brady, 740 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: I also see Robert Kraft. That's a guy we should 741 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,959 Speaker 1: be talking about a lot. He's a Hall of Famer 742 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 1: and he does the right way. They can't argue that 743 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: he's not Pavaratti's not Domingo, but he's the other guy. 744 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: You're right, and he's not over He's not overbearing. There's 745 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 1: some as we know, there's some owners. You know, they 746 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: like p Diddy in the nineties. All in the video, 747 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: he's a little bit, he's a little removed. They got 748 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: in no respect for the Patriots. The CBS cameras never 749 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: go to Robert Kraft. Um kidding him. I've met him 750 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: a couple of times, who has been great to me. 751 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: But you can just see the way players speak about him, 752 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: the way they react to him on camera. What an 753 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: impact I actually they said, he's a Hall of Famer. 754 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: It's amazing. Eddie de Bartelo three years ago, Jerry Jones 755 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,280 Speaker 1: two years ago, Pat Bowland. This year, it is time 756 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: for that Robert Kraft push into the Hall of Fame 757 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 1: while you know, at the very least during the height 758 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: of their powers, Like, let's not do this ten years 759 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: from now. Yeah, there should be a push this year 760 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: to get Robert Kraft in the Hall of Fame because 761 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: Jerry got in, right, Yeah, there might be no more 762 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: accomplished owner already in football. For all the victories he 763 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: watches our program, who does he got to made him 764 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: on the field last year before Pat sages and he goes, 765 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: you guys are crazy in the morning. There you go. 766 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: That's right, tweet the showmister, that's the craft plea is 767 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 1: someone we need to tweet. I'm gonna go with the player. 768 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the player who has made so 769 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 1: many clutch plays and has been a part of so 770 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 1: many moments, and I love early Patriots defense David Patton, 771 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 1: David Gibbon, but later era Patriots have been dictated by 772 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: clutch moments by Julian Edelman. That's my third guy. I 773 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: go Brady Belichick Edelman, and I think of three plays 774 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: or three moments in particular. The first one, I go 775 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: to that AFC Divisional Around game. They're down fourteen points 776 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: twice Jules Julian Edelman throws the dime to Danny m 777 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 1: and Dola. This one puts them back into this game. 778 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 1: They would eventually go on to win and then go 779 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: on to beat the Seahawks in the Super Bowl. How 780 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: about two years ago against Atlanta, they're down eight points, 781 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: they're trying to make something happened here. It might be 782 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: the most dramatic catch in Patriots Super Bowl history not 783 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,760 Speaker 1: made by David Tyree. This one here is by Julian Edelman. 784 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 1: It's the juggling catch, and it's called it the Julian Juggle. 785 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: Save the Super Bowl and absolutely cemented him in Patriots Lure. 786 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: And then how about capping off what has been a 787 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: tumultuous season, missing the first four games, coming off in 788 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 1: ACL and being the Super Bowl MVP. You want to 789 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 1: talk about Mount Rushmore. I've got Julian Edelman right up 790 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: there with Belichick and Brady and Nate. If you want 791 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 1: to go craft, I'll give you that too. Edelman right 792 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: up there. I think he defines this generation of Patriots football. 793 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: He's so Patriots that hurts. It's everything they're all about. 794 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: It's incredible. I'm gonna look something completely different, Nate. You 795 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 1: talked about Robert Kraft being kind of above it all. 796 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the guy who's beneath it all, 797 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go with Ernie Adams. And if you're 798 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 1: not paying attentional, you don't know who That is. His 799 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: label inside the organization. Last I saw was quote director 800 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: of football Research, and we got a shot of Ernie. 801 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 1: Ernie Abams has been with Bill Belichick for decades, as well, 802 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 1: as Slate put it one of the Svengalis and Rasputants 803 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: behind the Pat's magic. That's how they put it. Back 804 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: when Bill Belichick was with the Browns, reportedly the owner 805 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: Art Modell had his entire staff in front of him 806 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: in a room and said, I'll give ten thousand dollars 807 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: to anybody in this room and can tell me what 808 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: Ernie Adams does. Nobody had an answer, No intern, no 809 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: pay Who dying for that money? Nobody had an answer, 810 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: Matt Light said in two thousand and eight Total Mystery, 811 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen Stephen Gaskowski, the Kicker, speaking of Ernie Adams, 812 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: I can't tell you what Ernie does. No one knows. 813 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: The guys are in the facility every day. We have 814 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: Ernie Adams here in this table as a caricature that 815 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 1: there's a secret entrance where you play the piano notes 816 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 1: and the bookcase opens and foxbur when you go down 817 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 1: into the catacombs, and Ernie Adams is chained to a wall, 818 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: even with some hot soup and some stale bread, and 819 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: Belichick tells him hot soup. They refresh it. Fine things 820 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: in this game that will help us win that we 821 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: don't know about. He's like, I found some section three 822 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: article D. We can beat the Ravens and it works. 823 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: Ernie Adams the unsung hero, sort of the yellow king 824 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 1: of the doing them Patriots amazing. I love that. The 825 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: way I look at the Patriots dynasty, it's a part one, 826 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: part two, So I love that you brought an element 827 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 1: for part two, and Craft's been there through it all. 828 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: But you have the Tai Law, Willie McGinnis, Dion Branch 829 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: early era. Right, that's chapter one. There's three rings there. 830 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: Then you have the error that we're sort of living 831 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: in right now. And I really feel like people forget 832 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: that there was a lull in this Patriots dynasty. Right 833 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: there was the sixteen and no season in two two 834 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: thousand and seven, and after that it was they didn't 835 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: make it to the AFC Championship like three times. Then 836 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: Gronk shows up and he has this breakout sophomore season. 837 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: So I think it is Gronk because he is the 838 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: biggest part literally and figuratively of this second half, the 839 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: second chapter, the revitalization of the Patriots dynasty. I feel like, 840 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: you know, listen, this is insane. The Paths have made 841 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: it to the AFC Championship game or further every year 842 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,879 Speaker 1: since that breakout season his sophomore year. That's eight straight years. 843 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: And there's no coincidence that Gronk is a huge part 844 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: of that. He's a four time All Pro, He's won 845 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: five AFC Championships, are super Bowls, one of the best 846 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 1: players to ever play at his position. This is a 847 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,919 Speaker 1: first ballot Hall of Famer that we are talking about. 848 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: Even not at one hundred in the Super Bowl, He's 849 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 1: still They don't win the Super Bowl without that setup 850 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,720 Speaker 1: catch from Brady too prompt to set up Sony Michelle 851 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,800 Speaker 1: and the only touchdown in this Super Bowl. Also, what 852 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: I love is in the midst of do your job, 853 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: no days off, it's a tough time for media up there. 854 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 1: They cannot get anything out of the Patriots that he 855 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: has done it all. We're looking at Juju Smith Schuster 856 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: having the off season he had and then also having 857 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: a great season. It is very rare to pull it 858 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,800 Speaker 1: all together and do both, especially in New England. So 859 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: for him to sort of do it loosely, for him 860 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: to embrace other things, for him to like Hollywood and 861 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,800 Speaker 1: have it all makes him a well rounded player and 862 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 1: makes him a unique player. I think he's a third guy. 863 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 1: More year, one more year, we'll see if we can 864 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 1: get he's still here. Well. Thanks for juny in to 865 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 1: the Good Morning Football Podcast. Make sure to subscribe on 866 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: all our channels and come back tomorrow for some more 867 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: bu so from all of us here at GMFB. Have 868 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: a good morning and a great day.