WEBVTT - Starring Bart Johnson as Coach Bolton in “High School Musical” 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:17.760 Thank you everybody for joining us on this Park Copper 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:21.000 episode of Magical Rewind and boy do we have a 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:23.800 special one today. 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:25.840 I am so happy. 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:29.040 We've been waiting for a while because his schedule is crazy, 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:32.320 but he has been so accommodating to come on and 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:37.320 talk to us about the juggernaut that is High School Musical, 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:38.680 the movie that I watched and I liked. 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:40.440 They break in the song and I was actually okay 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:45.040 with it. We are here today to talk to Dad. 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:45.840 Coach. 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:48.200 How do you want to refer to him? 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:49.920 I think it's everything. 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:51.000 I think so too. 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:52.880 I can't wait to talk about the chemistry that he 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:56.160 had with his son on the movie because he and 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:58.040 Zach for well, I don't want to get too much 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:03.200 into it anyway, Please help us. Welcome coach, Dad bart Johnson. 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:08.520 Thank you so much for joining us. 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:11.400 Ah Man, my pleasure. Thanks for having me Ca. 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:14.000 Yeah, this is very cool to have you come on 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:16.440 because we have obviously, as you know, we're going through 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:19.760 and watching all of the Disney Channel original movies love It, 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:22.959 Love It, and I had not seen most of them, 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:25.240 and I had never seen High School Musical. 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:31.000 Wow. Okay, yeah, I was the one percentile. 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:34.240 I was I was the one three No, so we're 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:36.200 we started with just the first one and then we're 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:38.360 going to do eight because we've done like The Cheetah 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:42.440 Girls and Camp Rock and Teen Beach and I haven't 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:44.119 gotten any of the sequels yet. 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:48.120 Cool. Cool, Well, you know what's unique? If I might 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:50.680 just jump in here please, this was it was only 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:52.320 supposed to be at one off. You know, there was 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:55.680 never supposed to be a sequel. So it was pretty 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:58.080 interesting when when they realized that they had this like 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:01.080 crazy hit on their hands. So I think pretty much 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:03.560 all those other ones, they had all the actors on 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:06.720 a three picture deal, right, not on this one, man, 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:07.440 not on this one. 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:11.600 Yeah, yeah, right, Because I remember when when the second 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:14.839 one was coming around and it was kind of not 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:17.720 sure if everyone was actually going to sign back onto 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:21.119 the to do the second one, because they, like you said, 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:24.120 they only signed up to do one, and then obviously 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:28.079 all of you guys blew up after that first one, 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:30.040 so then it was like, all right, well, let's let's 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:32.040 talk some deals here. Yeah. 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:34.520 Yeah, Disney's not used to having to pay their actors 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:37.080 like that, you know, you know, And it was it 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.280 was really interesting because the first one came out, they 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:41.840 didn't really do any special promotion any more than any 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:45.239 other film. So when the numbers came in and eighteen 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:48.720 million people watched that first screening, they just like it 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.040 didn't even make any sense, Like how did everyone in 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:52.440 the world like connect with this thing? 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:56.560 I know? And I loved it because when that was 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:59.240 all going on, you know, you talk to the fans 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:02.480 and it was they could find somebody within the cast 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:05.240 that they really related to, you know, and it was 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:08.320 so easy to just embrace the whole movie because the 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:12.560 cast was so diverse, which was amazing, you know, it 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:13.440 was it was awesome. 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:16.839 Yeah, I think that I really think that a lot 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:20.400 of the successes attributed to that. Like it'sarthentic, you know, 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:23.120 like the themes were like they meant a lot to people, 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:25.160 and you know, it was almost ahead of its time 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:27.480 with a whole like we're all in this together. I mean, 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:30.920 like so much through the like pandemic and everything, we 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:33.679 talked about this and people really needed it. So it's 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:34.920 pretty pretty interesting. 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:37.680 Yeah, can you take us back to the first time 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:40.680 you heard about this project? Was this just a regular 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.080 audition that came across your your plate? I mean, how 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:43.880 did you hear about this. 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:47.320 No, actually not at all. So I met Kenny Ortega 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:49.720 on the set of Newsies if you remember that. 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:52.120 Of course, a great movie. 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:55.640 Yeah yeah, yeah, a long time ago. My mom was 0:03:55.680 --> 0:04:00.200 actually his hairstylist on Newsies. And so I visited the 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:03.360 set and became friends with the cast there, and I 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:06.200 you know, Christian Bale of course, and Ellie Keats and 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:09.480 Dave Moscow and and that was kind of like a 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:11.120 real training point for me of like wanting to be 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:13.800 an actor, like seeing these kids are like my age, 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:16.600 you know, and having like these really cool lives. And 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:18.120 I was already do a theater, but I was just 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:20.080 doing for fun, and I kind of grew up around 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:22.800 of these movies. But I got to know Kenny or 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:24.840 take it he was he was a young kid back then. 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.560 Man, he's just a long tail and the long pony 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:29.080 time see pictures of it. So cool. 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:31.880 Oh yeah yeah, man, he was the best, and he 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:34.960 was just we became friends and I've just known him forever. 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:38.800 So he's always really supportive of my acting career. So 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:41.160 like anytime, like, I had a series that Warner Brothers 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.600 called Hyperion Bay, and he watched the show and he'd 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:45.080 call and say, hey, that was a really great scene, 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:46.960 or I really liked who did this, or he just 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:49.479 you know, watched anytime I was working, and watch the 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:51.640 movies I was in, and just over the years, over 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:54.839 ten to fifteen years. So when this movie came out, 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:57.359 this was after he did News. He's after he did 0:04:57.400 --> 0:05:00.320 hocus Pocus. He was like, he was doing the little 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:02.160 Disney Channel movie. So I got a call. I got 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.200 a phone call from Kenny out of the blue, and 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.479 he said, Hey, listen, doing this little Disney Channel movie. 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:08.880 No one's gonna see it. It doesn't happen yet. We're 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:10.640 just calling it high school musical until we come up 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.120 with a name. There's no money in it. But we're 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:15.480 gonna go to Utah and we're gonna make this movie 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:17.680 and it's gonna be a lot of fun. So what 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:20.039 do you say You come do this movie with us? 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:22.279 And I said, yeah, of course. And he said, okay, 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:23.760 Well you got to go to Universal and go meet 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.359 with Natalie Hard and Jason Lapadora, the casting directors, And 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:29.080 I said okay. So I went in and auditioned for 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:32.400 the role, and about three days later I find out 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:34.080 I didn't get it. I didn't get the role, and 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:36.120 then I get a call from Kenny Ortigia. Is what happened? 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:38.400 I said, I don't know. I just want went in there. 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:40.680 You know, I've never played a dad before, Like I know, 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:44.480 Coach was kind of young for that. I'd always been 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:47.359 you know, I was still playing the roles where You're like, 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:52.000 I'm playing the basketball. Yeah, I'm not there on the 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:55.760 outside look at this. So this is like for me, so, well, 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:57.599 what'd you wear? Would you wear the audition? I was like, 0:05:57.880 --> 0:05:59.679 like a T shirt and pair of jeans. He's like, listen, 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:01.440 you gotta go in there and you got to act 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:03.600 your age. You know, you got to play zag Caffron's dad. 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:05.600 I'm like, Who's who's that? Guffron Like nobody knew who 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:09.080 he was, you know, who's that? He's like, well, he's 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:10.560 just you know, he's this teenage kid. I'm like, I 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:12.560 got I'm not old enough to have a teenage kid. 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:14.600 That's crazy. And he's like, look, the does I want 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:16.760 you to do? Go put gray hair, put some gray 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:18.720 in your hair, put on a sports coat, and go 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:20.880 in there and act serious, act act like the right age. 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:22.640 And I'm like, okay, okay, so I did all that 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.200 and he got me a screen test at Disney. So 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:27.880 I went in and acted all serious business and had 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:31.120 gray in my hair, you know, and and I got 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:33.920 the role. And then when I get the gray stuff like, 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:35.160 you know, you don't need to you know, don't have 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.880 to do this, Okay. Cool. So yeah, that's how that happened. 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:39.640 That was just like out of the blue. 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:43.520 Jan That's amazing. Kenny really fought for you to get 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:45.320 that role. That is so cool. 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:47.320 I can't believe it. I really can't believe it. And 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:49.320 he'd seen a bunch of coaches. I think he was 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:51.920 getting desperate as with us. He's like, you know, Disney 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:54.640 like has their list of Disney actors and they said, 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:56.080 here's the whole list, and he went through the whole 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:59.159 list and he's like, it's just this. He just doesn't 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:02.120 like you, is just not right, Like he he saw 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:04.880 me as coach Bolton somehow. I'm glad he did. 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:08.200 Hey definitely, And we've heard from other people too that 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:11.720 he has this vision in his head and until he 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:14.760 gets there, like there's no stopping him, like he's he's 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:18.280 gonna go. Oh his vision is and this is a 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:23.440 perfect example of he was freaking right, Yeah, gotta go 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:25.760 with it. When Kenny says something, you gotta go with it. 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:26.800 So that's pretty cool. 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.400 I think all of us that were there, like on 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:31.600 set watching it happen, we all know this is like, 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:33.840 this is Keny Ortegan Man. This is like such a 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:37.040 testament to his not only his vision but his commitment 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:41.040 to making something great. Like his standard is just so high. 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:43.840 And he rewrote the music and the dialogue and he was, 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:45.920 you know, so sious about the casting and he found 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:48.840 you know, Zach to play Troy, which was amazing and 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.200 you know, actually it'sday able to play you know, such 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:53.960 a great sharpay and so good and that's so sweet. 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:56.360 Is that is like Gabrielle. So it's yeah, it's all. 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:58.800 It's all Kenny Man, It's all. Then when you work 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:01.320 with him, it's like I I mean, it's just same 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.080 as he's working on newsies like this big you know, 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.640 one hundred million dollar Disney film or a little Disney 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:09.160 Channel movie. It's the same, like passionate, same commitment, and 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:11.400 he really yeah he made it great. 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:14.320 Yeah, but the budget may change, but the art doesn't. Yeah, 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:15.880 yeah for him for sure. 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:18.960 Yeah, he wasn't nothing in man, this guy was make 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:20.320 it something special. 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:22.960 Full you know, disclosure. I tell people I am not 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:23.720 a musical guy. 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:24.360 Yeah. 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:26.720 Normally, when I'm watching a movie and everyone breaks into 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:28.280 the song, I always go like, what. 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:30.240 Did they get together? And rehearse first? Like what the 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:30.560 heck is? 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:34.160 But I really liked High School Musical, Like I genuinely 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:36.880 liked High School Musical. And one of the reasons was 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:40.719 the casting. The relationship seem real, They seem to get 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:43.720 along like there was there was chemistry between everybody. And 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:45.920 one of the things that I really noticed that with 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:49.240 the chemistry was you and Zach. Yeah, And I'm curious, 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:51.760 was that something that was there instantly or is that 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:54.559 something that you built as you were rehearsing? 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:56.720 How did how did that relationship come along? 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:00.000 Well? I appreciate that. That's that's great because it means 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:01.640 a lot to be Like, I feel like I'm the 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.000 most fortunate guy in the cast because like all my 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.800 stuff is with Zach, who I think is a terrific actor. 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:07.280 Yah. 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:10.719 He takes his craft very serious, like he wants to 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:14.640 have his scenes connect and be real and authentic and 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:17.400 like and be really genuine and and he you know, 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:19.840 he was working on this movie like it was as 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:21.960 important as you know, Iron Claw, you know. I mean 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:24.080 it's like he worked at a really high standard and 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:27.240 same same with Kenny, so we wanted it to be real. Uh. 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:28.960 You know. It's it's a funny thing, you know, when 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:30.679 you get a script as an actor, it's like it's 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:33.880 up to you to interpret what it means and how 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:36.440 deep you want to go and or how deep you 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:38.640 don't want to go, you know, And you know, like 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:41.640 I'm a dad and I'm a coach, and I saw 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:43.880 it as such a gift to me. You know, usually 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:45.199 in these type of movies, you play the dad, like 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:47.559 the support of dad, or like the hard nos coach, 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:49.880 Like you don't really ever get to play both roles. 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:53.720 It's kind of kind of special that way. And you know, 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:56.240 I looked try to internalize that a lot because I like, 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:58.360 as a Doug, I got kids, man, I want I 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:00.880 want to love my kids. I don't want to like man, 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:03.360 I just want to take care of them and see 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:06.160 them thrive. But like as a coach too, you got 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.560 you know, you have to play that role as well. 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:10.840 So you know, I feel like a lot of and 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:12.520 you know, it's like, I'm gonna play this for real, man, 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:14.760 I'm gonna play this like how I really feel. And 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:17.760 Zach was too, and so I think Kenny creates the 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.760 environment for you have like these real feelings, and he 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:25.240 takes enough time. And Zach's a really talented guy, so 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:28.880 he was able to be there for it. So yeah, yeah, when. 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:31.000 Did you get a chance to meet either Zach or 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:33.840 the cast or whatever. Were they in their rehearsal process 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:34.520 at that time? 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:37.199 Yeah, yeah, so the first movie. I think the first 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:40.360 movie was like four million dollars, so they only had 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.840 like one week of rehearsal. If you think about it, 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.720 you know it's not a lot because he has like 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:48.800 when Katie or take A told Disney, oh, I want like, 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:52.040 you know, fifty dancers here and I'm seventy five, and 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:54.120 they said, no, wait, we can't fly. We can't get 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:57.240 all these professional dancers. We can't get fifty professional dancers 0:10:57.400 --> 0:10:58.800 and come up and be in this movie. Beau is, no, no, 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:00.400 I'll get him in Utah. He's like, no, you can't 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:03.560 get local talenties. Can you take a directed the opening 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:06.839 closing ceremonies for the Olympics. So the Winter Olympics in Utah. 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:09.640 Oh, so he knew the talent pool already. He knew 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:11.360 he knew the dancers talent. 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:15.440 And Utah is ridiculous in dancing. It's crazy, ridiculous, so 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:16.480 much talent up there. 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:19.760 Yeah, yeah, incredible. So he drew you know, all those guys. 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:21.880 But he only had one week to rehearse this old 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:23.439 movie crazy. 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:30.160 That is wild, wild because there's so many big production routines. 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:34.400 Just the cafeteria alone would take a week to rehearse that, 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:34.920 I mean. 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:35.240 My god. 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:37.520 And then you have the basketball because you can't just 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:39.520 you know, it's really hard with the basketball. You know, 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:41.680 you throw a camera in the middle of the basketball 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:43.160 court and then you have to make all this stuff 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:45.160 look real. But you have to do it slow enough 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:47.280 that the camera can catch it and like make these 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:50.960 plays work. So they would go literally go from dance rehearsal. 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:54.319 I saw their knees and even even these young guys, 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:58.040 and they go right to basketball rehearsal and go back 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:00.120 and forth forth for one week and they're going they 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:00.800 were going quick. 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.480 Yeah, because we talked to Corbyn about that. Corbyn's like 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:05.800 on the dance stuff, I'd be ripping it and then 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:07.080 you throw me basketball and I'd be like. 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:12.120 Damn it, I gotta play basketball. 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:14.720 I think he was the only trained dancer in the show, 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:19.360 is Corbyn and played back? Yeah, yeah, he was. Yeah, 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:21.520 it's kind of interesting looking back on it, Like Ashley 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:23.640 Tisday was the only one that had been on a show. 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:26.200 She was on Sweet Live. Yeah, so she's kind of been, 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:29.079 you know, around fame and that whole thing. But like 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:31.000 everybody else was just like stoked to have a job 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:34.160 start in a movie. Man is great, Like they were 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:37.520 all stoked. Corbyn was like the only really trained dancer, 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:40.360 like he could and do everything. I mean, Zach is 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:43.319 like natural dancer, and yeah, a lot of the you know, 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:45.920 there's a lot of talent in general. Speaking of that, 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:49.800 the cafeteria scene, that was a special scene. Man, I 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.400 always when people ask me crazy, yeah, like what what 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:55.360 scenes like really stick out for me? That was the 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.040 first time that I thought, like, nobody knew this was 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:00.720 going to be a hit. Like just if anybody says 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:03.000 they knew The Lion Man. 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.480 Nobody, for the record, nobody has said they knew. They're 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:07.920 all like, no, we had no idea. 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:10.400 Okay, all right, I've heard some of the executives like 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:13.120 later like, well, we really knew we had something. I'm like, of. 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:15.720 Course, of course the executives, none of the actors. All 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:17.160 the actors are like, no, we didn't know. 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:19.280 We did get a chance to talk to Michael Heally 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:23.280 and he said that he knew that the chemistry, Like 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:25.320 he said that they had something, knew they had something 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:28.240 special with the chemistry between Zach and Vanessa, that that 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:31.959 was something that was undeniable. And you just thought these 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:34.560 two kids were just stoo cue. But yeah, I mean 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:38.400 I think this the level of success was just it 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:41.160 just knocked everywhere off their feet, Like that was incredible. 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:43.480 I like that Michael Heely guy, he's a good guy. 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:46.920 He did for us. He's really funny, good guy. But 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:49.400 we were just so we're doing the cafeteria scene, and 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:51.680 it's really interesting because that cafterious. Like if you go 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.400 up to East High right now in Utah, they really 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:56.960 called East High, you know, it looks exactly the same. 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:59.400 So I've gone a couple times and you look at us, 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:01.520 like the tables, the colors of the decoration, it's you know, 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:04.080 the big it's all exactly the same. So people like 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:06.160 travel from all around the world to come visit the building, 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.360 which is about that too. But when we were we 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:11.240 were shooting that scene, I just happened to be there 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:14.360 with my kids and they were really small at the time. 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:16.240 They were like, they're babies. I put him in Kenny 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:18.000 was great, you know, he put him in video village, 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.280 so they get to watch and on the cameras and everything, 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.560 and Zach's on one side and Vanessa's on the other side. 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:24.480 I'm like, yeah, finally, I'm a cool dad. 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:26.680 You just go home. 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:30.520 This is so they're too young to appreciate. I'm like, 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:34.120 this is my chance. When they were shooting that scene, 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:36.200 I've never seen anything like it. It was so amazing 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:39.480 because Kenny would be watching the monitor. He'd have Bonnie 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:41.480 Story on one side and Chuck either are his two 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:44.400 choreographers on either side of him, and they're shooting. They're 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:46.920 shooting the scene and they're so I remember looking at 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:49.840 the monitor and it was like so much action going on, 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:52.240 so many dances, people doing flips and spins and turns 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:54.880 and just crazy amounts of stuff cramming into the screen. 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:57.400 And while we were shooting, he would be making notes, Okay, 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.360 she needs to do this. He needed and it's just 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:03.240 like he was writing out like directions, the yell cut 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:05.320 and the choreographers to go to work, and they would 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.360 do it so fast, and by the time he reset 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:11.160 the cameras and to go again, everything he talked about 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:14.200 was alive on the screen. It was it was like 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:15.880 magic Man, amazing. 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:16.960 Well that was the thing again. 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:18.920 I know, I say this disagreeing every time we watch 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:20.960 one of these movies. I know nothing of dance. I 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:24.120 can't dance. I know nothing about it. Watching the first 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:27.120 High School Musical, seeing the levels that he would do, 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.880 where it's happening in the foreground, it's happening in the middle, 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:33.080 it's happening behind you on tables, there was there's something 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:37.040 happening in every section of the screen. Yeah, and yet 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:40.240 they all are working together as you're watching this scene. 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:41.359 It was insane. 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:43.040 Yeah, they all compliment each other. 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:46.600 Yes, yes, I agree. This is the scene, the first 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:48.800 scene in the movie I feel, you know, I'm a 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:52.080 big Kenny fan. That exact scene is the first time 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:56.520 where you're going, oh, this is what we were waiting 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:59.800 for from mister Kenny. Like it's like, okay, I mean, 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:03.600 that's the first time that you really get like what 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:07.840 Kenny is so freaking good at when it comes to musicals, 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:11.080 why you hire him? Why he is like the head 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:13.120 captain of the team for that, you know, I mean 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:15.200 it was amazing. That scene is awesome. 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:19.040 Well also for Disney though, when you then roll in 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:21.720 the fact that he had no budget to do it, 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:23.640 so he can take a dollar and make it look 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:27.360 like ten. Yeah, that combination of being as good at 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:29.840 what he does and coming in at a budget is 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:31.800 they're going to hire him to do every movie and 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:35.080 they have because it's like why why wouldn't you when 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:37.360 you've got that that's yeah, amazing, Yeah. 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.400 Yeah, what you're getting with him is, you know, fourteen 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:43.960 years of choreographing Michael Jackson's tours, you know, closing ceremonies 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:46.920 to Olympics, I mean, big big thing, Xanta dude of 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:49.760 you know, like all these all these movies, so like 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:53.320 decades decades of his brilliance, and those scenes like that, 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:56.160 they're so layered and they're so complimentary and they all 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:59.040 kind of coalesce so beautifully. It's it's pretty amazing. And 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.120 that was the first time or like for me, I 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:04.159 was like, well, this doesn't seem like a little. I 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:05.960 didn't think it was I'm not trying to say I 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:08.920 knew it was big, but it was like, there's something 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:10.120 special about this for sure. 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:13.280 Could you feel it? 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:16.159 Did you know that we might have some kind of 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:17.320 lightning in the bottle here? 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:20.000 Yeah, I mean not to this degree, not at all, 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.520 but like I knew it was pretty special. I mean 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:25.560 I was this is this is pretty like what I'm 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:28.880 seeing on the screen is like, it's pretty amazing, right, 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:31.120 There's something special going on here for sure. 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:34.440 Yeah. And up to that point, for especially the first one, 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.280 they really didn't have anything that was at all that big, 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:39.119 you know what I mean, So you wouldn't expect it. 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:40.879 You were gonna you were thinking, this is gonna be 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:43.720 a cute, little fun movie, you know whatever, And then 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:48.560