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Speaker 1: making fun of Blue Ivy's singing an eleven year old,

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Speaker 1: for her mom to share that with her, but it

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Speaker 1: must be a tremendous amount of pressure, like it's just

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Speaker 1: like my daughter doesn't really kind of want to be

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Speaker 1: she really asked to want to do, or something Beyonce

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Speaker 1: And if you kind of get a child used to

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Speaker 1: a dance. When I was young, I wanted that kind

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Speaker 1: about a couple of things, like I live for Beyonce.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because Beyonce's tour hasn't gotten the same like

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Speaker 1: cult status as Taylor Swift's. And I went to Tailor

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Speaker 1: it's interesting to me, Like I don't know exactly what

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Speaker 1: I think about it. I think it's wild and beautiful

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Speaker 1: But I think about it being difficult to have an

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Speaker 1: It's just a different life, and some kids are more

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Speaker 1: Then I think about people really trolling Jessica Simpson when

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Speaker 1: her daughter was wearing a croptop. Who's also eleven and

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Speaker 1: kids are wearing crop tops, and I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: like people judging moms and like maybe in maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't put my daughter in a crop top or

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Speaker 1: put my daughter up on stage. I don't like this

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Speaker 1: see it or hear about it. It's so pure and

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Speaker 1: is risky business to me. So that brings up the

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Speaker 1: question of the parents, even in the entertainment industry, myself,

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Speaker 1: an audition, and my mom didn't help me with that

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Speaker 1: She does some fun, cute beauty reviews because she's seen

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Speaker 1: Do not be commenting in her, you know, as an

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Speaker 1: swat away weirdos. But when you put your child up

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Speaker 1: It's putting your kid as a child actor. It's just

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Speaker 1: the Beyonce stage. Someone said to me recently, Oh no,

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Speaker 1: not to me. Charlemagne said on his podcast that Beyonce

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Speaker 1: can't go to certain restaurants because it will cause a riot.

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Speaker 1: So now her daughter is like of that level fame

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Speaker 1: by association. So are these kids ready for that? You know?

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Speaker 1: Was Macaulay Culkin and was Michael Jackson? And were these

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Speaker 1: I just was moved by watching Blue Ivy performing on

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Speaker 1: and then people criticizing her singing, and then I thought

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Speaker 1: Brynn have a little bit of public forward facing stuff

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Speaker 1: it's just an additional thing that happens on reality TV too.

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