1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Live from our nation's came this budget thing is going 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: to do nothing Space Force. I still think it's interesting 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: President Trump not playing his cards yet. Headlines Policy and 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: politics colliding Floomberg Sound On, The Insiders, the influencers, the insides. 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 1: I would rather see a congressional solution. It's part of 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: my DNA. The Senate map in looks a lot different 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: than it looked in. President Trump was sent here to 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: smash conventional norms in a sense Bernie Sanders has already want. 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin Sirel, live from 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,639 Speaker 1: the Democratic residential debate into one on Bloomberg Radio. I'm 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television of Bloomberg Radio. 12 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: I'm broadcasting live from inside of the Des Moines Register 13 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: CNN debate ahead of the debate, which is just underway 14 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: here at Drake University in Des Moines, Iowa. And the 15 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: stakes are high for Senator Bernie Sanders and Senator Elizabeth Warred, 16 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: who have been trading political jabs all throughout the week 17 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: about well a private meeting will bring you the latest 18 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: on that. A complete, complete breakdown of the politics and 19 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: the policy as it relates to the debate and also 20 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: the latest on impeachment. We're now hearing new scheduling details 21 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: ahead of that Senate impeachment trial, and meanwhile, around the 22 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: world policy developments on China Eve US China EVE Phase one. 23 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: But we begin tonight in De Moines, where Senator Elizabeth 24 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: Warren and Bernie Sanders are set to clash on stage 25 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: tonight for the first time after trading jabs for the 26 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: past couple of days about a meeting that occurred back 27 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: in the twenty sixteen presidential cycle. Wendy Benjaminson is holding 28 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: down the fort for US in in Washington, d C. She, 29 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: of course, is Bloomberg Politics editor. Wendy set the stage 30 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 1: for us for tonight about Bernie and Elizabeth Warren. Well, 31 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: they have started, um, you know, bickering a little bit. 32 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be surprised if the two of them 33 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: backstage just say, okay, look, let's not let's not throw 34 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: red meat to people like us, Kevin, so they may 35 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: come out and be all nice to each other, just 36 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: to you know, make us rewrite our stories that are 37 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: out there. But um, the this kind of started with 38 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 1: a story Politico had a couple of days ago that 39 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: said that um, Bernie Sanders staffers were uh, you know, 40 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: really going after Warren on social media. And then we 41 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: had another this thing, which was a meeting I believe 42 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: in when they were discussing whether to run for president. 43 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: The two of them are are good enough friends. Apparently 44 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: that they were sitting and talking about whether, Hey, you're 45 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: gonna run for president. Yeah, I'm gonna run for president. 46 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: And Elizabeth Warren wondered if a woman could win and 47 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: said she believed a woman could obviously, and Bernie Sanders 48 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: said he didn't. And you know, when you just hear 49 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: that part of the conversation, it's remarkable. But this is 50 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: a characterization that was put out by by by four 51 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,399 Speaker 1: anonymous sources. And then Elizabeth Warren came out and put 52 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: a statement on the record, which is why I'm so 53 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: glad that Adam Green is standing right next to me 54 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: inside of the spin room. He's the co founder of 55 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 1: the Progressive Change Campaign Committee, which is back to Senator 56 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren tell us Adam about the statement that she 57 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: put out that says exactly what what was in that 58 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: conversation and question sure, well sure, well, first, hi, first, uh, 59 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: you know, as we stand in the spin room, every 60 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: reporter here has been intimately following the story by the 61 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: hour for the last twenty four hours or so. I 62 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: talked to my parents today and they were like, wait, what, 63 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: I think I might have heard something about that. So 64 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: just big picture, most people aren't paying attention to this, 65 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: and we'll hear about it for the first time in 66 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: the debate tonight, UM, And basically it was exactly what 67 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: you said, right, She's saying that. H He said that 68 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: a woman can win, and she disagreed. I don't think 69 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: we're actually gonna see a lash to night. I think 70 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: I have seen a big de escalation in the last 71 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: twelve hours or so by both the Warren campaign and 72 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: in the Sanders campaign. And I think it's because they 73 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: both know that this is the last best chance that 74 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: they have to drill into Iowa voters minds it. Joe 75 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: Biden is the less aspirational, less inspirational, and less electable candidate. 76 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: And you know, any moment, any minute spent talking about 77 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: their meeting from a year ago, which is not really 78 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: a big picture that important to most voters, UM, is 79 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: a minute detracting from their core mission of making sure 80 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: that people. Let me follow up on this though, Adam, 81 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: because for for a senator Elizabeth Warren so put out 82 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,799 Speaker 1: a statement on the record confirming such a such an 83 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: anonymous sourced uh story. She's essentially saying she's she's raising 84 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: questions about Bernie Sanders and what he views in terms 85 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: of leadership and commander in chief, and and whether or 86 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: not voters would elect a female. This is the party, 87 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,239 Speaker 1: mind you, that consistently runs as being the party of inclusivity. 88 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: This is the party that runs, mind you, as as 89 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: that put up a female nominee in the last cycle. Well, 90 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: let's not dismiss the possibility, if you don't mind me 91 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: jumping in that this is in any time, that this 92 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: is all part of a larger strategy. I mean, Elizabeth 93 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: Moore and has been really focusing on female voters lately. 94 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,239 Speaker 1: She has had um she's been campaigning with Katie Porter, 95 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: she's done interviews and fashion magazines. She's been, um, you know, 96 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: focusing on some women friendly issues. And then all of 97 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: a sudden, there's an anonymous source story that Bernie Sanders 98 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: said a woman couldn't win. So, you know, I respect 99 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren's intelligence and strategy tremendously, and I I don't 100 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: know I was. I don't have those anonymous sources, but 101 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: it sure seems the timing seems to be good. Yeah, 102 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: this is Adam, So I agree with your appreciation of 103 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: her intelligence in her strataticking things in this case. I 104 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: don't think it's true that she was raising questions. I 105 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: think she was answering questions. I mean, look, I will 106 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: tell you this was not the Warren campaign strategy coming 107 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: into the debate. You know, we haven't a dynac right 108 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: now where Bernie Sanders has been consistently throwing bombs at 109 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, talking about NAFTA, talking about Iraq, making the 110 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: case against his electability, and she's framing herself as a 111 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: unity candidate. You know, things left their own devices. We're 112 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: gonna be great tonight with them throwing bombs at each 113 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: other and her saying, you know, you can unify around me. 114 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: Um uh. I do think that the political article actually 115 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: did have an impact though, just agree with that point. 116 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: You know, this is a year ago conversation. You know, 117 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: if she had told two people about the conversation inventing afterwards, 118 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: and they each told one person per month, for the 119 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: last year. I mean, there's twenty people that know about it, 120 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: and you know some of the people who were quoted 121 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: in that article were people that she didn't even tell, 122 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: that heard it from people, so so so I do 123 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: think what happened was that, you know, some people read 124 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: the political article about Bernie Sanders staffers, you know, staying 125 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: trash talking Elizabeth Warren a little bit, got a little 126 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: bit mad and did something with that that wasn't helpful, honestly, 127 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: Elizabeth warn't at all. It reminds me of the Clinton 128 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: campaign's attacks on the Sanders campaign with regards to Bernie bros. 129 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: Moving on front runner Joe Biden, Wendy Benjaminson, the Iraq 130 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: war vote? Is that going to come up tonight? Just 131 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: given the backdrop of the US Iran tensions and Bernie 132 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: opposed the Iraq War, You've seen this development of how 133 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: the Biden campaign has characterized his position on the Iraq War. 134 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: How will foreign policy played tonight? I think that if 135 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: Bernie has a target tonight, Senator Sanders, excuse me, Senator 136 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: Sanders has a target tonight, it's going to be Joe 137 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: Biden and not Elizabeth Warren. I think that um you know, 138 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: he has been I'm sure that Iran will come up, 139 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: you know, with the the kind of moderators they have 140 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: and the and the proximity to the big news, and 141 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: it's a good way to talk about the differences with 142 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. So um, you know, and Bernie has been 143 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: hitting Biden pretty hard on his his vote in favor 144 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: of the Iraq war, saying that he was with George W. 145 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: Bush at the beginning of the war and um, and 146 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: you know, the sort of things, the sort of moderating 147 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: things he said. Since then, Bernie Sanders is against the 148 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: US being at war period. It seems period that's a 149 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: different position. Adam coming here in terms of Warren's the 150 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: Warren World just quickly in thirty seconds about how she's 151 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: going to communicate tonight on Iran, on foreign policy in general. Quickly, Yeah, Well, 152 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: I think as she and Bernie de escalate, she will 153 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: also talk about the need to de escalate with Iran. 154 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: And and they clear that Donald Trump got us into 155 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: this mess because he's an incompetent um you know, president, 156 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: corrupt president too, you know, doing this for political motives. 157 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: You know, he predicted for Obama that Obama would bomb 158 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: I Ran to win reelection. It's all on the record, 159 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: and I think she will make the point that we 160 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: need not a corrupt and not an incompetent president. All right, 161 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: coming up, much more policy and politics. Adam Green, Brandy Benjaminson. 162 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: We all said check in with the chief h Craig Gordon, 163 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: our our bureau chief. I'm Kevin Cirelli, chief Washington correspondent 164 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: for Bloomberg TV and Radio. You're listening to Bloomberg. This 165 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: is Sound On with Kevin Cirelli, live from the Democratic 166 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: presidential debate in Des Moines on Bloomberg Radio. I'm Kevin Cirelli, 167 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television. In Bloomberg Radio, I'm 168 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Drake University, where we are just ahead 169 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: of the Des Moines registered CNN det Aocratic presidential debate. 170 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: We have every angle covered, and let's not forget about 171 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: the dizzy NG headlines whipping their way through Washington as 172 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: the US tariffs on China are staying point. And we'll 173 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: talk about this coming up with our bureau chief, Craig Gordon, 174 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: who's also out here with me in Des Moines, Iowa. 175 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: The Trump administration is unlikely to remove the levies until 176 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: after November's presidential election. Meanwhile, new developments on of iron. 177 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: The EU has initiated formal proceedings to resolve its nuclear 178 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: dispute with Iran, and that sets up a potential show 179 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: now between Washington and Tehran at the the U N 180 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: Security Council, UH, the UK, France, Germany. They're saying now 181 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: that Iran has violated the j c p a A 182 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: or the Iran Nuclear Disarmament deals. So it's continued developments 183 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: on the Iran front as well, and candidly, I anticipate 184 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: that foreign policy is going to be front and center 185 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: at the debate in just a few short hours here 186 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: in Des Moines, Wendy be Jimminson, what's holding down the 187 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: forward for us? Back in Washington? D D c Adam 188 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: Green is here in the spin room. He is the 189 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: co founder of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee, which is 190 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: backed Senator Elizabeth Warren. And we're thrilled to welcome to 191 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: the program her first time on Bloomberg Radio. Sound on 192 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: Misty Rebick. She is the Iowa State director for Bernie 193 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: Sanders presidential campaign. And first of all, thank you so 194 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: much for being here. Misty shared thanks are having. So 195 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: let's talk about first and foremost this issue of foreign policy. 196 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: The only candidate on that stage who was in office 197 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: during the Iraq War vote who voted against it is 198 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: Senator Bernie Sanders. How much of an important contrast is 199 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: that tonight for Senator Sanders, Well, I think what we're 200 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: going to see tonight is what we always see from 201 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: the Senator, is he's going to lead on ending endless wars. Uh. 202 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: He's going to continue to lead on foreign policy and 203 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: the way that we've seen him in the last week 204 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: since all of this has started. Um, and of course 205 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: he's going to speak to the issues that tens and 206 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: thousands of Iowans and obviously millions of Americans are thinking 207 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: about right now. So so to follow up on that point, 208 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: because back in Washington, when I talked to Republicans and Democrats, 209 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: they especially Democrats, they're very careful to not call General 210 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: Solomony a good actor. They're they're they're critical of the 211 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: way in which President Trump went about the strategy behind it. 212 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: And I'm curious tonight if you could give us a 213 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: preview of how Senator Sanders will navigate that particular point. 214 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: He's not out there saying, for example, that Solemony is 215 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: a good guy. Sure, I think the Senator is going 216 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: to be strong in this issue, and you'll see many 217 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: of the same points that he's hit on over and 218 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: over again. We need a president who is willing to 219 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: work towards the diplomacy. We need a president who is 220 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: willing to um get us out of endless wars. And 221 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: that's why he's going to continue to talk. And there's 222 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: no other person who can speak better to that than 223 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: the Senator himself. Uh So, I think that's what you'll 224 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: see tonight. Wendy Benjaminson come in here in terms of 225 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: framing the broader stage tonight of where foreign policy and Iran. 226 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: This is the first opportunity that many voters will have 227 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: to hear from the front runner candidates as it relates 228 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: to Iran. Uh, particularly given the tensions in the past week. Yeah, 229 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: and foreign policy is an issue that doesn't usually hit 230 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: the you know, the high mark in Democratic primaries because 231 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: Democratic voters tend to be more worried about pocketbook issues 232 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: and and things like that. Um So it's a it's 233 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: a really good opportunity, uh for a candidate like Senator 234 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: Sanders and Vice President Biden really because um, you know, 235 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: Biden is campaigning that he's the voice of experience. He's 236 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: the guy who has been there, he's been in the 237 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: situation whom he was you know, Obama's Obama side through 238 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: the whole thing, and there are a lot of questions 239 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: about the advice he gave Obama during those years. But 240 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: also he talks about of conducting foreign policy in a 241 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 1: way that is a very stark contrast with the way 242 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: that President Trump talks about foreign policy. So that's a 243 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: good moment for Biden, I think. Um. Senator Sanders also, 244 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: as I'm sorry the other guest said, um has legendary 245 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: so um. But as Christie says, you know, this is 246 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: also a sweet spot for Senator Sanders, and so um, 247 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: I think if the two of them go out and 248 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: you'll get a really stark view of the two wings 249 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party. All right, Adam, come in here. 250 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: Because Senator Warren talks a lot about how her family 251 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: members had served military people to judge obviously has military experience. 252 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: Senator Colbatar has talked about military experience and her family. Um. 253 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, to be honest about Tom Styre's military experience, 254 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: but how important of a role will foreign policy played 255 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: tonight in the debate, especially given the J C. B 256 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: A wed. Yeah, well, first, I agree with everything Missy said. 257 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: I do believe that Sanders has a lot of unique 258 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: credibility on this issue. For most voters, They're not gonna 259 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: be probably voting on the minutia of foreign policy, but 260 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: the broader themes at this debate, Um says. And you know, 261 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: one thing that Trump actually did to his advantage in 262 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen was claimed the outsider mental rail against 263 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: corrupt behind closed door deals, whether they were NAFTA or 264 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: things like the Iraq war. And Um, that's you know, 265 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: Joe Biden would ironically seed the outsider mantle to a 266 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 1: corrupt incumbent president if you were the nominee. What both 267 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Standers can do is take a 268 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: strong stand against corruption, including corrupt foreign policy deals, corrupt 269 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: deals with Wall Street banks, corrupt deals on things like NAFTA. 270 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: And I think that thematic outsider mantle is where both 271 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: Bernie and Lauren will thrive tonight. I can't wait to 272 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: see what how the foreign policy issue really resonates, because 273 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: I think it is a really fascinating one, and it 274 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: really is indicative of where the country is right now. 275 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: The country's attention is grit on on the issue of 276 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: foreign policy, particularly given the intensity surrounding the last two weeks. 277 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: In particular, all right, missy, while we have you here, 278 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: give us an update on the ground in Iowa. Polls 279 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: suggests that really this is a two way race between 280 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: Biden and Bernie here in uh in Iowa, and I'm 281 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: curious what on the what what are you hearing from 282 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: trade policy perspective? And Iowa out of Greenish is saying 283 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: not so fast, alright, alright, but in terms of what's 284 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: the most progressive Canada's leading right now? And I but 285 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: in terms of terrorists and trade policy, I'm curious here. 286 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: I think farmers have been pretty have been hit hard. 287 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: We've heard it a little bit on the campaign till 288 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: but most importantly, I think you know, Iowans are looking 289 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: for a candidate they can trust, and right now, Senator 290 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: Sanders is one of the most trusted politicians in the country, 291 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: not only on bread and butter issues like raising wages 292 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: and healthcare, which are things you hear him talk a 293 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: lot about, but we can trust where he's going to 294 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: fall on this issue of foreign policy, and that he's 295 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: going to stand strong with farmers to do everything that 296 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: to ensure that farmers in the state of Iowa, UM, 297 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: are supported and when he's in the administration, and not 298 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: only that, but are thriving. Uh. And so we do 299 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: hear a little bit about it. But honestly, I think, 300 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: as Adam had said, the minutia isn't so much what 301 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: people are concerned about. They want to know, um, how 302 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: you know, how the next president is going to make 303 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: their life better and Senator Sanders has a big, big platform. 304 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: How all those things can work together? All Right? Best 305 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: place to get a burger in Des Moines, Iowa probably 306 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: Zombie Burgs, right. Okay, we just heard it there. I've 307 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: been talking about zombie Burger all week, missing Rebec. We're 308 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: thrilled to have you all. Thank you so much for 309 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: coming on. Coming up next, the Bureau Chief is here 310 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. Craig Gordon joins the panel conversation. 311 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin CURRELLI Chief Washington Correspondent. Fro Bloomberg Television and Radio, 312 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: and you're listening to Bloomberg. This is Sound On with 313 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: Kevin Currelli live from the Democratic presidential debate in De 314 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: Moine on Bloomberg Radio. I'm Kevin Cerelli, Chief Washington correspondent 315 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: from Bloomberg Television of Bloomberg Radio. I'm in Drake University 316 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: in downtown De Moine, where we're just ahead of the 317 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: Des Moines Registers CNN Democratic Presidential Debate. Wendy Benjaminson is 318 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: holding down the fourth for US back in Washington. D 319 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: c Adam Green's here. He's an Elizabeth Warren insider, and 320 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: the Bureau chief himself has just strolled into the debate 321 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: spin room here at the Des Moines Registers CNN Democratic 322 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: Presidential Debate. Craig Gordon. All right, Craig, We've got lots 323 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: to talk about in terms of all of the different 324 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: dynamics as it relates to the Democrats running for president. 325 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: But I do want to catch us up to speed 326 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: with regards to some developments on the US China trade front, because, 327 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: of course, a huge day tomorrow in terms of Vice 328 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: Premier Loha. He'll be at the White House with a 329 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: China delegation. Finally, we're going to get the details on 330 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 1: that US China trade front. What do we know about 331 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: what we're getting tomorrow on US and China trade. I 332 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: mean they're talking about a real not just assigning ceremony, 333 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: but you know it's very trumpy and signing mega ceremony 334 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: to hundred people at the White House, including the Chinese Premier, 335 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: the President United States signing with that with those sharps 336 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: and that big signature. There's been sort of a question 337 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: about does should the President sit next to anybody but 338 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: jimping the leader of China to sign that deal. I 339 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: think the White House doesn't want to pass up an 340 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: opportunity to, you know, declare victory on this China trade thing. 341 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: So he'll be there with Luja and they'll know this 342 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: is phase one. Lots of people think they will never 343 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: be a phase two. But you know, Donald Trump could 344 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: put this one of the books and say they're gonna 345 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: buy a bunch of soybeans. They're gonna he's gonna eat 346 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: some tariffs and uh, we've stopped calling them a currency manipulator, 347 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: and then hopefully China U S relations getting a little 348 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: bit more uneven. Kull. You know, I passed a lot 349 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: of farms out here since I landed in the MOI, 350 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: but I haven't seen many soybeans. I'm not sure I 351 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: could pick out a soybean though, but it's big news 352 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: for Iowa the soybeans. They do like their soybeans here, 353 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: also their corn pigs as well. Um. Look, I mean 354 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: what you would find if you went around to a 355 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: lot of those farms is that they're not selling as 356 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: much soybeans and corn and pork, but they are getting 357 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: checked from the United States government. Um. Donald Trump very 358 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: masterfully sort of managed that problem. When the Chinese said 359 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: they would stop buying our stuff. He said, fine, I'll 360 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: just write you a check to cover it. So, Um, 361 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: We've done a lot of reporting in this field. How 362 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: are the you know, the farm states obviously Trump states, 363 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: uh in sixteen How are they reacting to the tariffs? 364 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: So far? They seem to be sticking with their guy. 365 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: They seem to be sticking with President Trump despite some 366 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: pain from the terroiffs. Craig Gordon's here. He's the Washington 367 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: bureau chief for Bloomberg News, and he's giving us a 368 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: preview of the dynamics and the intersection of politics and policy. 369 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: Especially Really this is ground zero here in Iowa, a 370 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: state the President Trump carried by ten percentage points in 371 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: the cycle, and now a state that Democrats really want 372 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: to win back something that Senator Amy Klobuchar has really 373 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: said that she would be able to win states like Iowa. 374 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: But but sticking with China for just one more thought here. 375 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: I was struck by this because when the headline crossed 376 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg terminal earlier today, as it relates to terrorists, 377 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: the terrorists are still going to be in place until 378 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: after until after the election. What's up with that? I 379 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: thought I thought the business community was going to get 380 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: some relief. Yeah, I mean, in fairness to Trump, I 381 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: think this is a little bit of a trust. But verify, 382 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: I means China's gonna sign sign the documents, and the 383 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: Phase one deal will go into place. Um, it is 384 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: fair to say that China is sort of known throughout 385 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: its history of dealing with the United States on trade 386 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: issues and other issues for a bit of X sliding. 387 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: And so I think this is the White House's way 388 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: of saying, great, we have this deal. We're trying to 389 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: you know, trying to work some of these things out, 390 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: but we're gonna take a minute and make sure you're 391 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: gonna hold up your end of the bargain before we 392 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: left all the tariffs. It really is interesting. And then 393 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: while all of this is going down, I mean, you've 394 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: got Phil Hogan, he is the course, the European Union 395 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: Trade commissioner, that the top head haunt show of trade 396 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: as it relates to Europe, and he was in Washington 397 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: early years today meeting with US trade representative Lightheiser and 398 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: other folks. So on one end, you've got a guess, 399 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: a fire, I don't want to say, goming out completely 400 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: with China, but then potentially another fire just starting with Europe. Yeah, 401 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: I mean, look the European tariffs, and I think there's 402 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: even an argument to be made some of those could 403 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: be more sort of maybe not numerically as great as 404 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: the China ones. But they're talking about a hundred dollar 405 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: tariff on French wine that means the twenty dollar bottle 406 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: of wine goes to forty if I do my math correctly. Um. 407 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: And so you know, this could actually start to pinch 408 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: a little bit at um folks that are paying attention 409 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: to things like that. So Trump has kind of setting 410 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: them up and knocking him down. He went hard after 411 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: China had a pretty tough year and change of negotiations 412 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: got to the deal. I think he's bringing some of 413 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: that moxie for lack of a better word, to the 414 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: table with the EU and say, look, I'm I'm winning. 415 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm willing to cause him pain back home. What are 416 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: you gonna do to help me out? I want to 417 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: bring in Adam Green in a second. But just sticking 418 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: with this issue. If you're if you're in your car 419 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: and your way home from work, and you're trying to 420 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: sort through the noise of of what the direction that 421 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party is moving in, and obviously the Republican 422 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: Party having been rebuilt on economics and on trade policy 423 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: by the current occupant of the White House. On trade, however, 424 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,719 Speaker 1: you know, you look at Elizabeth Warren, you look at 425 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders, You look at how they have spoken about terroiffs, 426 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: with the exception of maybe pe Boodha Jedge on the 427 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: issue of tariffs, and Joe Biden and Klobuchar. I mean Bernie, 428 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, the two senators, Uh, I 429 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: mean they would use terriffs. They would be negotiating very 430 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: similarly in a different rhetorical approach. Before Adam grabs my microphone, 431 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: but with China and with Europe. Yeah. Look, I think 432 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: actually trade has been one of the issues that I'll 433 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: say it. I think the Democratic field up to it, 434 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: including Joe Biden, has just not had a very good answer. 435 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: Their answer seems to be I would do it differently 436 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: than Trump. What would you get rid of the tariffs? 437 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: Well I didn't say that. What would you negotiate with China? Well, 438 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: you know, I would negotiate, you know. So I don't 439 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: know that we've had a particularly high level, sophisticated conversation 440 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: about trade out of the Democratic UM candidates here. But 441 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: the fact is, I think there's a lot of people 442 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: in Washington, d See who believe that Donald Trump has 443 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: sort of set a tone with China that will be 444 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: very hard for the next president if it's not him, 445 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: to reverse. Um a lot of Americans do feel like 446 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: the Chinese are sort of taking advantage of the United States, 447 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: or they always seem to get the better end of 448 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 1: the deal, or they always make us buy their stuff 449 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: and they don't buy as much of our stuff, and whatever. 450 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: I think. Any if a Democrat is sitting in the 451 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 1: Oval Office, you know, after this election, I'm not seeing 452 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: a huge change in our approach to China, a hardline 453 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: sort of approach. You may have a rhetorical difference, you 454 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: may have some softer words and lighter tone, But I 455 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: don't think anyone's back in a way from this tough 456 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: stance on China. I'm excited to interview Senator Johnny Aren't 457 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: tomorrow and Bloomberg Television and Radio tomorrow afternoon, we'll bring 458 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: you that interview Senator johny Earnest, of course, the Republican 459 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: from Iowa. She's back in Washington, d C. But to 460 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: get her thoughts on the US China trade deal as well. 461 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: I was talking with some lawmakers and back in Washington 462 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: on the Republican side. I mean, they're eagerly awaiting this signing. 463 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: A lot of folks want to know specifically what's in 464 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: this deal, what is it going to mean, how is 465 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: it going to be enforced? But in terms of negotiating 466 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: with China, how would Elizabeth Warren Adam Green, how would 467 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: her economic policy with tariffs and and the more progressive 468 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: angle of negotiating with these foreign countries, How would that 469 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: would that? How would that different from President Trump? Well, first, 470 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: I just want to say how much of what Craig 471 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: just said I agree with, I really agree with so 472 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: much of that. Really, in the last twenty four hours, 473 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: what we saw were dozens of warmer Trump voters step 474 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: out endorse Elizabeth Warren here in Iowa, many of whom 475 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: were farmers, because they feel very let down by a 476 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: combination of the trade deals and the tariffs that uh, 477 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: Donald Trump has been doing. Whether you call them corrupt, 478 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: what you call them pro corporate, what you call them incompetent. 479 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, many Trump voters who 480 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: voted for him and trusted him were let down. So again, 481 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: I think her main point will be I'm gonna fight 482 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 1: for a little guy against giant corporations. That that is 483 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: her her north star when negotiating trade deals. Yeah, that's 484 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: a great point because the World Trade Organization could have 485 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: a roll here, I mean, and that's something that that 486 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren has really been out front of for years 487 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: or at least, you know, pushing that that trade agreement. 488 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: She was actually against Obama on a certain specific, more 489 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: nuanced version of his trade policy and trying to move 490 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: it more to the left. But the World Trade Organization, 491 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: whether or not the trade deals in compliance with that, 492 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: I mean that you know, the Rosa de Lauro's of 493 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: the world will be or will be eagerly looking at that. 494 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: Will they're not, Craig, Yeah, I mean w t O 495 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: always has a fine vote in these things. And you 496 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: know a lot of people in the United States think 497 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: China shouldnt even be part of the w t O 498 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 1: because they cheat sometimes. Let's again putt put it on 499 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: the table there. Um. But look, I think for most 500 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: Americans looking at the ceremony tomorrow, it's a sense that 501 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: Donald Trump got something done. Do they understand every little nuance? 502 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: Probably not. Do I understand every little nunance. I'm not 503 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: sure I do. But it's a sense of motion, it's 504 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: a sense of progress. It's a sense of standing up 505 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: to again a sort of a competitor, arrival and um, 506 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: and getting something that they can put on paper to 507 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: try to move the U. S. Economy forward. All Right. 508 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: Msty Reddick was just on she's the state director from 509 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: Bernie's campaign, and I asked her same question. I'm gonna 510 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: ask you, Craig Gordon, best place to get a burger 511 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: in Iowa? I heard her answer. I know the answer is, 512 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: but but don't you've been Iowa bunch. That's it. There's 513 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: only one place. I mean, I guess there's one chophouse 514 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: is pretty good. I mean, here's a dog that just 515 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: walked in, A bulldog. I wish everyone could see this. 516 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: A bulldog just walked into the spin room and there 517 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 1: is a gag of reporters, including our very own Tyler Pager, 518 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: who are snapping pictures of it. I believe it's the 519 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: Drake mascot. It's the Drake mascot, the Drake University bulldog. See, 520 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: this is why we have the bureau cheap on is 521 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: because he knows those details faster. I agree with Craig 522 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: that indeed is the Drake mascot. Where did you get 523 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: a burger in Iowa? I'm a vegetarian, but I just 524 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: heard that there are veggie burgers at Zombie Burger, so 525 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: I actually want to go there now. All right, all right, 526 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: well I'll take you up on it. I'm Kevin Cirelli 527 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: coming up much more policy and politics. What's on the 528 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: panels radar? We got to talk about impeachment. New headlines 529 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: on the appeachment front of Kevin Silli And you're listening 530 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: to Bloomberg. This is sound on with Kevin Sirelli live 531 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: from the Democratic presidential debate in De Moine on Bloomberg Radio. 532 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful day here in Des Moines, Iowa, where 533 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: I am inside of Drake University where they've converted a 534 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: gymnasium into the CNN Des Moines Register Democratic Presidential Debate 535 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: Spin Room. We're going to broadcast that made live on 536 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Will have special coverage from live inside of 537 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: the spin room, complete analysis and coverage and how it relates, 538 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: of course to the policies were following all of it. 539 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: And that's why I'm so thrilled to have Adam Green 540 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: joining us from inside of the spoon room. He, of 541 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: course is in Elizabeth Warren, world insider and the co 542 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: founder of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee. I got it right, 543 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: but I always mix up campaign and change, but I 544 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,479 Speaker 1: got it right at him, and of course, my boss, 545 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: my boss two times over, Craig Gordon. He is the 546 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: Washington Bureau chief of Bloomberg News. All right, gentlemen, thanks 547 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,479 Speaker 1: for being here at time for my favorite segment of 548 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: the show, which is what is on your radar? Craig, 549 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: What's on your radar? I'm a long way from des 550 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: Moine looking at this Iran nuclear deal. So obviously we 551 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 1: all watched the President took out the Iranian General of 552 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: the Iranians shot a few missiles back into an Iraqi 553 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: air base. Nobody got hurt. Trump did not have to 554 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: star World War three. But the thing that happened today 555 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: that's actually very interesting is that the European nations actually 556 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 1: took a formal step towards saying that Iran is no 557 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: longer in compliance with the j c p o A, 558 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: the Rand nuclear deal that Donald Trump of course took 559 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: the United States out of a couple of years ago. 560 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: This is significant, again, a little wonky, but significant because 561 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: Europeans have been trying desperately to hold that deal together, 562 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,959 Speaker 1: and today they actually took a pretty formal step that says, hey, 563 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: this thing's in tatters. Iran has already so they reached 564 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: their their obligations there. They're already enriching more uranium than 565 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: they were allowed to be under the deal. And while 566 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: it's a very long term thing, um, this does put 567 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: arand potentially on track towards getting the capacity for a 568 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: nuclear bomb. So the European nations kind of throwing up 569 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: their hands and saying they can't really deal with the 570 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: RAND right now, although they're gonna take another stab at 571 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: Um keeping them at the table. The UK, France and 572 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: Germany by no means politically speaking, are they all in 573 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: the same ideological island. For those three countries to come 574 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: out and to say that Iran is in violation of 575 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: the j c p o A and for them to 576 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: file this complaint is right after weeks after President Trump 577 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: had asked them to pull out of the j c 578 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: p o A and to do it on the same 579 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: day again as as Europe's top trade commissioners in Washington, 580 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: d C. It's studying. I mean, it's it's incredibly notable, 581 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: and it begs the question, how will Tehran response? Yeah, 582 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: and what's really particularly notable about today is France Emmanuel 583 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: McCrone had tried and sort of made it his personal 584 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: business to try to pull the United States and I 585 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: ran back into talks. We we know from when they 586 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: were in New York City for the UN General Assembly 587 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: back in September. They were, you know, a cab right 588 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: away from getting Trump in the same room with Rohani. 589 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: It didn't come together, not through no luck I've ever 590 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: buy McCrone, So form for France to be doing this 591 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: from McCrone to be again kind of throwing up his hands, 592 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: it's a pretty dramatic step. Tehran can basically just keep 593 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: doing what he's doing. They're in reaching uranium, they're they're 594 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: you know, their their stockpiles are growing very slowly. It's 595 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: a very slow process, very technical process, but they can 596 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: sort of begin to hold the nuclear sword over the 597 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: world's head more and more with every passing day, which 598 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: is exactly what supporters the j c o P j 599 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: c p O A said wouldn't happen that we could 600 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: not have to worry about in a nuclear Iran. Now 601 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: we had to start worrying about it again. So we 602 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: don't know what Iran is gonna do, but they really 603 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: have to do anything except keep doing what they're doing. 604 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: In that statement that they released, they also praised that 605 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: the European nations. They praised UH, China and Russia in 606 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: terms of for them for them staying in this it. 607 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: It really would suggest that the president's pressure on NATO 608 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: is going to be the strategy moving forward with Iran 609 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: more so than the U N and I also obstruct 610 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: that the President has been able to separate the US 611 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: China Phase one deal by not touching oil as it 612 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: relates to China. He's kept it in a completely separate land. 613 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: That's right, because everyone thought that was kind of a 614 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: red line for China. It's a huge and growing country 615 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: billing people. They need energy, they need oil, and anything 616 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: that Trump did to to sort of disrupt those supply 617 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: lines could have been a real problematic for China. So yeah, 618 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: I think it's a moment when we have to give 619 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: again give Donald Trump credit where credit is due. He 620 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: took a pretty deliberate steps, pretty dramatic language along the way. 621 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: Some people thought probably a little bit overheated, But we're 622 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: getting to the point where they're gonna sign some some 623 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: documents tomorrow to to move that trade deal forward. All right, Adam, 624 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: what's on your radar? Well, first, I agree with Craig, 625 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: that's a very interesting thing to watch. I almost want 626 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: to yield him my time to hear what else is 627 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: on his mind. But if I must go to bring it, 628 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: to bring it more domestically, um, you know, Elizabeth Warren 629 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: today announced the plan to not just cancel student in general, 630 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: but to do it without Congress, putting their sample pool 631 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: on it by just doing it through the Education Department. 632 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: And this speaks to two of her larger themes in 633 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: this race. One is this idea of economic freedom. Basically, 634 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: you know, if you're a mom who you know, wants 635 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: to start a small business, you can do that if 636 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: you're student. Debt is canceled, right, And basically it's liberating 637 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: people and liberating our economy to um to prosper. The 638 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: second thing, though, is a lot of people ask us 639 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,959 Speaker 1: sometimes what's the difference between Warren and Bernie? What's ever 640 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: seen Warren and other candidates? And one of the main 641 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: things that really she alone has is a cadre of 642 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: a list heavy hitters that would enter the executive branch 643 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: with her and be able to party, be able to 644 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: use the maximalist version of executive power. Right. She coined 645 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: the phrase personnel is policy, you know, And she has 646 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: these people because of a lifetime of work taking on 647 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: the big banks, you know, being a mentor for people 648 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: like Kamala Harris and Captain Cortes Masso when they were 649 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: attorney generals bo Biden negotiating deals with Bank of America. 650 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: She knows who the heavy hitters are that she can 651 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: bring it to the government. So today it was actually 652 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: kind of a show of force that she was like, 653 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: you know what, we can actually achieve this huge goal 654 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: of stantling canceling student debt with executive power alone. It 655 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: says that larger signal to voters about her unique proposition. 656 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: All right, that's a good one to watch. The spell 657 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: breaking news. This is what is on my radar. Impeachment 658 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: and of course a new development headline crossing the Bloomberg terminal. 659 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: Now that how Speaker Nancy Pelosi is said to announce 660 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: impeachment managers tomorrow at ten am Eastern New York Times. 661 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: So this comes following the latest developments on the impeachment front. 662 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: Set A majority leader Mitch McConnell had told report reporters 663 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: earlier today back in Washington that the initial phase of 664 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: the trial could begin as early as this week, but 665 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: the real meat of the trial won't begin until Tuesday. 666 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: So some new developments on that front. All right, So 667 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: that was on my radar. But did anybody watch the 668 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: game last night? Because this was the side show. I'm 669 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: gonna call it the Games. The side Vince Vaughan, the 670 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: President Trump was there, so Vince Vaughan sat with President 671 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: Trump and the first Lady Milannia. And now, I mean 672 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: the progressives in Hollywood are not happy with Vince Vaughn 673 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: that he sat with the President United States. Adam, Yes, 674 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: they're not happy. Yeah, it's based to a larger issue 675 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: of do you legitimize this president? You know, you know, 676 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: having Sewn Spicer on Dancing with the Stars, Like do 677 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: people who just beat in the Muslim ban jailed kids 678 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: at the board, should they be welcome back into polite society? 679 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: And um, you know Vince von apparently was doing that. 680 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: I actually have no personal beat with Vince Vaughn, but 681 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: it speaks that larger anger that's out there. I mean, 682 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: The Breakup is a great movie. I have the other 683 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: The Hangover and uh and all right, yeah, okay, so 684 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: a second they hangover you mean wedding crashes, wedding crashers, 685 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: wedding crashers, wedding crashers, swingers of course. Okay, we've got 686 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: a minute left. Who wins in debate tonight? I think 687 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: Joe Biden wins the debate by not saying word wow. 688 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: And Adam Green? Who wins to debate tonight? Vince vad 689 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: Um Mr. Yang might also win the debate by saying, 690 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: you know he's gonna lose the debates, and it's a 691 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: better question for yourstance. You're going to tell me, Elizabeth Warren, 692 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: Tom Steyer will not be much for participant um. I 693 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: think Pete bou Judge will probably be a big loser. 694 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,959 Speaker 1: But I think most people have the incentive to attack 695 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: Joe Biden tonight. Pete does Warren? Does you know? Bernie does? 696 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: Cloba chart does so. I think Bernie Sanders reminds me 697 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: of Trump in the way that he's very difficult to 698 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: attack on a debate stage. Bernie Sanders, Yeah, because he's 699 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,879 Speaker 1: all over the maps kind of uh. I mean, look, 700 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: whatever you think about Bernie standers politically like he's is 701 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: what he is. He says he's a popeye. I am 702 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: what I am through four billion dollars for medigap froll, 703 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: let's do it. So. I think he's hard to pin 704 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: down in that way because nothing you say actually seems 705 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: to make him mad. He usually sort of just just 706 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: goes along. Why I say Biden is I think Bernie 707 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,439 Speaker 1: and Warren could mix it up over these comments about 708 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: kind of woman be the president Joe Biden can have 709 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 1: a moment where he can sound very presidential an Iran, 710 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: and after that he should just step away from his potent. 711 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: I agree with that. I agree with that because I 712 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: think the more air time we can give him, just 713 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: let him speak and let people hear him, the better 714 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: it is for those don't want him to be the 715 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 1: bulldogs in the spinner of the Drake University mascot just 716 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: entered into the spinner. I want to thank everybody we're 717 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: coming on. Thank you Craig Gordon, Adam Green, Monney, Benjaminson 718 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: and Misty Rebick. I'm Kevin Sirelli special cover tonight live 719 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: from de Boine, Iowa at the beautiful Drake University. I'm 720 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 1: Kevin Silly and you're listening to Bloomberg.