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Speaker 1: Buck Brief this episode. David Harsanyi back in the mix.

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Speaker 1: He's a senior editor at The Federalist. You can read

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Speaker 1: his latest at the Federalist dot com. David, let's jump

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Speaker 1: right into it as I speak to you. It has

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Speaker 1: now been i think confirmed, as initially reported that Biden

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Speaker 1: has has threatened to withhold munitions from Israel if they

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Speaker 1: go into Rafa. What's going on here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he made the announcement himself in an

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Speaker 2: He could have privately obviously told Israel if you go in,

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Speaker 2: but he did it on TV because obviously it's aimed

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Speaker 2: towards the ters in Dearborn, the people that you know

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Speaker 2: protesting in Columbia and so on. It's it's a surrender

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Speaker 2: to the anti Semitic mobs. It's going to incentivize them

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Speaker 2: to even protest more in protest, you know, takeover buildings,

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Speaker 2: whatever they do. So, yeah, he announced it that he's

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Speaker 2: going to hold back all kinds of I guess offensive

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Speaker 1: What do you think I mean? I so that there's

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Speaker 1: the political calculation that he's making, which I think is

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Speaker 1: obvious to everybody. Right, and you just laid it out

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Speaker 1: what is Israel supposed to do? Not based on what

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Speaker 1: the lunatics on the campus say, because the Israel's supposed

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Speaker 1: to not exist, right, like all of its people die

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Speaker 1: or get pushed somewhere else. And you know it's from

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Speaker 1: the river to the sea, is the chant? Like we

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Speaker 1: all know what those like the campus protesters really want.

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Speaker 1: But what does the Biden administration expect by saying we're

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Speaker 1: going to make it harder for you to finish the job?

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? What's the so what's

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Speaker 1: the next step in their mind?

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Speaker 2: I think there are a lot of facts at work,

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Speaker 2: But obviously I think we should set the table and

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Speaker 2: that Biden is sort of a feckless, hollowed out person.

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Speaker 2: Isn't any principles. It's not like he has some sort

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Speaker 2: of ideology. His only worry here, I believe, is to

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Speaker 2: has always had a lot of Obama. You know, people

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Speaker 2: think they think Israel is too far right wing, that

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Speaker 2: cynically using this now to kind of undermine Israel. I

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Speaker 2: you seen this administration? What do they have a plan

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Speaker 2: always just to get some votes. It's never really any

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Speaker 1: That's the part of this that I keep coming back to.

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Speaker 1: And I also can't meaning that there's no oh wait,

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Speaker 1: just none of this makes any sense except for again

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Speaker 1: But I remember, I mean the same people that are

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Speaker 2: Well, the ceasefire is a euphemism for Israel should not

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Speaker 2: But think about this also. I mean, there are American hostages,

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Speaker 2: Palestinian people. This just means more war. Having Hamas survive

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Speaker 2: go in because these are Slimists and nihilists. They want

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Speaker 2: the State Department's own calculations, right, So you're you're basically

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Speaker 2: saving a group that you yourself should want to destroy

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Speaker 1: How is and this I always tell you know my

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Speaker 1: How is Hamas different in any significant way from Al Qaeda? Really?

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Speaker 1: And I think that's an interesting question. I like, I

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Speaker 1: In what ways ideologically ethically is Hamas different form Al Qaida?

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Speaker 2: They actually in many ways, well they're not different. I

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Speaker 1: But no, but I mean, like, like, well, what's the

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Speaker 1: to me and their mindset, their approach. It's exactly when

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Speaker 1: You know, to me, I'm just like, this is the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Hamas doesn't even make any pretenses that

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Speaker 2: It does not believe Israel should exist at all. But

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're right about this, but even more so,

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Speaker 2: you know, Hamas is an outgrowth of the Muslim brotherhood

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, the same Muslim brotherhood in

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Speaker 2: Obviously there's a Sunni Shia split in Islam, but even

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Speaker 1: Always say this too, if it comes when it comes

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Speaker 1: to killing Jews, the Iranians will write checks to any

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Speaker 2: Right now, I think it's about Jews. I think it's

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Speaker 2: about Jews on campus here. I think it's about Jews there. However,

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Speaker 2: even if Israel was a Christian nation, I think that

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Speaker 2: their problem is that they're infidels there, colonizers whatever euphemism

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Speaker 1: Now. I used to see the actual propaganda in Iraq,

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Speaker 1: just as Jews. So the Americans in Iraq were always

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Speaker 1: tied into Jews and Israel as well by the Jihadis

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Speaker 1: I'm saying is anytime Jihadis are fighting anyone anywhere, it's well,

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Speaker 2: I always get sometimes these self hating Jews here or

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Speaker 2: others tell me that this anti Semitism is caused by Israel.

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Speaker 2: Having Israel makes Jews less safe. Now, I am not

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Speaker 2: a scholar, but I've read a lot of books about

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Speaker 2: massacre happening for a thousand years, way before Israel ever existed.

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Speaker 2: So when you hear Zionist, that just means Jew. And

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Speaker 2: every time I see one of these riots or I

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Speaker 2: I wrote about this earlier in the week, but it's

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Speaker 2: not a hashtag and it's not giving speeches. It's picking

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Speaker 2: can fight back. At least that's how I see it, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, No, I see the same. I want to

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Speaker 2: Right, it's packaged for like people, and that is much

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Speaker 1: You know, I've spread the about this, and i've actually

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Speaker 1: uh set it out. I've cited you by name on

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Speaker 1: the radio a few times. I remember your your your book.

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Speaker 1: Pardon me for forgetting the title, but I do. I

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Speaker 1: you talk about how if England was a US or

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Speaker 1: the UK was a US state, it would be poorer

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Speaker 1: like people say that now, So like, do you know

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Speaker 1: of like, oh, everyone's just you know, walking around to

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Speaker 1: their their countryside mansions, you know, their Tudor style mansions,

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Speaker 1: drinking tea while they go bird hunting. It's like, no, actually,

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Speaker 1: America is much better off. So I just thought you

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Speaker 1: should know you've like changed perception on that.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy to hear that. Yeah, my book is called Eurotrash,

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Speaker 2: and you know it's all. I'll give you another quick

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Speaker 2: than the average of any virtually any real European country.

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Speaker 2: So even if you were my already here and you're

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Speaker 2: and you're you know, there are problems for sure in

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Speaker 2: many of those populations, you're still doing better than most Europeans.

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Speaker 1: There we go, all right, David Harsani. Always a pleasure, sir,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for making the time anytime.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me