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Speaker 1: John Mashoda, and Kyle Yeomans.
Speaker 4: What's up, y'all? Welcome to another episode of Talking Cowboys.
Speaker 5: It is a Talking Thursday, today, Talking Thursday, and we's
Speaker 5: going back on a fast here myself, Isaiah Stanbag, Nick Harris,
Speaker 5: and John Machoda in the building.
Speaker 4: K Y Kyle Yumans will be in the building sooner
Speaker 4: than later.
Speaker 5: I think his his unicycle blue attire, so he's gonna
Speaker 5: come in a little bit hotter than normal.
Speaker 4: But how are y'all doing today?
Speaker 2: Doing good?
Speaker 6: Kyle had some heavy shoes, you know, he was coming
Speaker 6: that unicycle bust attires.
Speaker 4: Have you been on a unicycle before?
Speaker 2: Actually not. I'm not coordinated enough, fely No.
Speaker 6: I can't even write a skateboard like if it doesn't
Speaker 6: have like severe stability, I can't do it.
Speaker 5: Like It's just like unicycles were like, man, they were
Speaker 5: like part of gym class back in the day.
Speaker 7: I feel ourpe not for me really, out of no
Speaker 7: way am I the only one I don't know?
Speaker 4: Is it Seattle just that weirdle class?
Speaker 2: And that's actually very on brand.
Speaker 6: I just see you can see like a lot of
Speaker 6: people in Seattle just riding unicycles.
Speaker 7: Does it make me a bad person that I came
Speaker 7: in here? And I was kind of relieved that I
Speaker 7: wasn't the last person. Now, I don't want any anything
Speaker 7: bad to happen to Kyle.
Speaker 4: Obviously you talked.
Speaker 7: About ycle or his unicycle. But when I texted the
Speaker 7: group coming in hot because I was running late, I
Speaker 7: was like, man, I hate being the last I don't
Speaker 7: want anybody to be waiting because I'm holding the group up.
Speaker 7: And so when I came in here and I saw
Speaker 7: an open seat, I was.
Speaker 2: Like, all right, I feel a little bit better.
Speaker 4: I'm not the last person. Whatever.
Speaker 7: But obviously we want the unicycle to get facked.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had to.
Speaker 5: Get the unicycle fixed, but nah, that's good man. So
Speaker 5: talking Thursday, obviously we're getting ready for the game with
Speaker 5: Dallas Cowboys versus Detroit Lions. The fighting Dan Campbell's we've
Speaker 5: been hitting on what yesterday we hit on our offense
Speaker 5: a little bit in terms of Detroit and some of
Speaker 5: the weapons that they have, some of the.
Speaker 4: Issues that they proposed.
Speaker 5: We talked a little bit about their backfield, and then
Speaker 5: they're two headed monster in Montgomery and Gibbs and the
Speaker 5: issues that they provide. I mean, obviously the receiving corps
Speaker 5: that they have out there, and who we're worried about,
Speaker 5: who we're not worried about.
Speaker 4: Today, we're going to talk a little bit about the defense.
Speaker 5: Okay, we're gonna preview that Dallas Cowboys offense versus that defense.
Speaker 5: But before we get into that, we need to know
Speaker 5: what's going on around the building, mister Nick Harrison, any
Speaker 5: news and notes popping off?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yesterday was a busy day. We could start with
Speaker 6: It was around right when we got off the show. Yesterday,
Speaker 6: the Cowboys made the decision to waive linebacker Rashaun Evans,
Speaker 6: who they signed earlier in the season whenever Lateon Vanderush
Speaker 6: went down with his season ending neck injury, and they
Speaker 6: activated offensive tackle Matt will Let's go from the injured
Speaker 6: reserve and it was met with a lot of how
Speaker 6: do I say this?
Speaker 2: Hate?
Speaker 6: On Twitter? Twitter fans were not enjoying it. As the
Speaker 6: day progressed and the news came out, it kind of
Speaker 6: made a little bit more sense as far as context goes,
Speaker 6: is why the Cowboys maybe released him. Mike McCarthy setting
Speaker 6: his press conference yesterday that you know later in the
Speaker 6: week there'll be more answers to questions and stuff like that,
Speaker 6: so that leads me to believe that they're open to
Speaker 6: bringing him back to the practice squad. Now, he wouldn't
Speaker 6: be able to play if he came back to the
Speaker 6: practice squad because he started his season on the practice
Speaker 6: squad and used all three of his elevations, So if
Speaker 6: he was to go back to the practice squad, he
Speaker 6: wouldn't be able to play until the playoffs at the earliest.
Speaker 6: But for Matt Will, let's go, it's an opportunity to
Speaker 6: get back on the field, and I'll kind of preview
Speaker 6: what the injury report is looking like. Tyron Smith did
Speaker 6: not practice today with a back injury, and then Chumydoga
Speaker 6: popped up with a toe injury. So if both of
Speaker 6: those guys can't go, then you know, Matt Will Let's go.
Speaker 6: Maybe is the next man up or Awesome Richards is
Speaker 6: gonna be one of those two guys. So it's a
Speaker 6: bit a big opportunity for Will Let's Go to not
Speaker 6: only get on the roster, but potentially even play this week.
Speaker 5: And can you remind the people exactly why Will Let's
Speaker 5: Go wasn't hasn't really been active as late.
Speaker 6: So yeah, So his rookie year he dealt with shoulder supplexation.
Speaker 2: Is that I can say that word, I know.
Speaker 6: But he had it in one shoulder. I forget which
Speaker 6: one it was last year. It was it was a
Speaker 6: left shoulder. Oh no, he's right tackle, right, So yeah,
Speaker 6: but he had it in one shoulder last year and
Speaker 6: now he's got it in the other shoulder this year
Speaker 6: that he suffered during the preseason. I believe that was
Speaker 6: the last preseason game against the Raiders when he suffered
Speaker 6: that shoulder supplexation and he's been on injured reserve since then.
Speaker 6: He got back on the practice field about three weeks
Speaker 6: ago they opened up that twenty one day window and
Speaker 6: he was a full participant from that moment on. So
Speaker 6: it looks like he's been ready to go. It's just
Speaker 6: about like finding him a spot on the roster, and
Speaker 6: this is a spot, So this is a big opportunity
Speaker 6: for him to get back on the field.
Speaker 7: How do you feel about the possibility of not having
Speaker 7: Tyron Smith or I don't think I think Chumo would play,
Speaker 7: but obviously he's dealing with the tow injury from the game.
Speaker 5: I am less concerned this week than I was last week.
Speaker 5: I think the defensive line in Miami Dolphins is a
Speaker 5: lot more active than that of Detroit Lions. Obviously we'll
Speaker 5: get into that a little bit more here in a bit,
Speaker 5: But Detroit Lions defensive line doesn't scare me.
Speaker 4: They don't scare me.
Speaker 5: They're they're solid, they're discipline, but they don't individually don't
Speaker 5: fear me. I don't fear them in that regard as
Speaker 5: I did with Miami. They they don't fear you exactly,
Speaker 5: they don't fear me. So yeah, I'm less concerned about
Speaker 5: tyrans availability this week, but obviously just want him back
Speaker 5: one hundred percent healthy. So whatever that requires, if that requires,
Speaker 5: if he's if he got those shots in his back
Speaker 5: and now he feels good and he can come back
Speaker 5: and play this week, then I'll be more than elated.
Speaker 5: If he can't, then to just let you know that
Speaker 5: he's not one hundred hopefully, and he gets back next
Speaker 5: week ready getting.
Speaker 4: Ready for the playoffs, you know, as a warm up
Speaker 4: for the playoffs.
Speaker 5: So just want him healthy, man, I want this entire
Speaker 5: offensive line healthy because to the conversation that we had yesterday,
Speaker 5: we can't afford any of these guys to be going.
Speaker 5: You know, we can't shuffle the deck. You know, the
Speaker 5: deck has been shuffled too many times over the past
Speaker 5: few years. And now you just want guys to be
Speaker 5: where they where their feet are, and just be constant
Speaker 5: and be you know, steadfast. Just just be be consistent
Speaker 5: so that Dak can be sure back there. Because when
Speaker 5: Dak is unsure in terms of his safety, just like
Speaker 5: any quarterback in this league, you we know what can happen.
Speaker 5: You saw it happen with Brock Purty the other day.
Speaker 5: Brock Party was mister, you know, bus driving, no interceptions.
Speaker 5: All of a sudden he gets a little pssure on
Speaker 5: him and you go take it. Four interceptions later, you know,
Speaker 5: you know, he's a different guy. And that's any quarterback
Speaker 5: you know who doesn't have the ability to necessarily utilize
Speaker 5: their feet. So we don't want Dak getting out the
Speaker 5: happening to you get out the pocket just because so
Speaker 5: I hope that I hope the tyrant could be there.
Speaker 5: But shout out to Matt, well, let's go. Hopefully his
Speaker 5: shoulders are intact and he's ready to go. You know,
Speaker 5: your opportunities in this league come from different various ways.
Speaker 5: You know, whether it be somebody underperforming, a lot of
Speaker 5: times it comes from injury. This instance, it came from
Speaker 5: you know, we'll let the end of the week tell,
Speaker 5: but it seems like behavior type stuff. So you know,
Speaker 5: hopefully he gets hope he doesn't get an opportunity to play,
Speaker 5: No disrespect to him because of Tyrone, but if he
Speaker 5: does get his opportunity, I hope that he did that
Speaker 5: he shows out.
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, which leads us into the injury report from yesterday.
Speaker 6: I spoke kind of about Chumley Dogau and we were
Speaker 6: talking with Mike McCarthy and kind of the walk off
Speaker 6: yesterday after the press conference, and he was we were
Speaker 6: kind of talking about, well, let's go, and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 6: you know, Tyron, he's been hurt and you know, Chuma
Speaker 6: got dinged up in the Miami game. He's like, did
Speaker 6: that pop up on the injury report yesterday? And you
Speaker 6: kind of look around, he's like, he's healthy, he's good.
Speaker 6: But then he did pop up on the injury report
Speaker 6: later that day, so he's he was limited with a
Speaker 6: toe injury. Something to keep an eye on he obviously
Speaker 6: he wasn't listening on Tuesday. We can go down the
Speaker 6: list here. Rico Dawdle. He's been battling that ankle injury.
Speaker 6: He was limited on Tuesday. He's been limited in the
Speaker 6: last few weeks. But he did not practice yesterday, so
Speaker 6: maybe something to keep an eye on there. If he
Speaker 6: can't go, then you're looking at you know, Hunter Lipke,
Speaker 6: deuce Vaughn. Malik Davis is out of elevation, so you
Speaker 6: can't use my leak. So yeah, it would be kind
Speaker 6: of an interesting a compliment to Tony Pollard, who would
Speaker 6: have why do.
Speaker 4: You believe that they elevated Malik and did not utilize.
Speaker 2: Them special teams?
Speaker 4: He was.
Speaker 2: He was utilized on special teams all three games. He
Speaker 2: was the.
Speaker 6: Uh, what what's what's right in front of the kick returner?
Speaker 2: What do you call that? Just like the first protector
Speaker 2: basically yea of the off set.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so he he was utilizing that role all three
Speaker 6: games and every single kick return, so he was helping
Speaker 6: out turping in those instances. But yeah, didn't really use
Speaker 6: him in the backfield much, especially you know, when the
Speaker 6: running game wasn't really working in Miami. It kind of
Speaker 6: surprised me that they didn't at least try him a
Speaker 6: couple of times just to see what, you know, he
Speaker 6: could bring to the table from a running game perspective.
Speaker 2: We'll keep going here.
Speaker 6: Let's see Jonathan Hankins once again did not practice. Mollie
Speaker 6: Hooker was back to a full participant yesterday. That's a
Speaker 6: good sign. Hunter Limke as well, with his thigh injury,
Speaker 6: was back to a full participant. Zach Martin did not
Speaker 6: practice yesterday with rest no where he's there. Zach Martin
Speaker 6: continues to not practice, and then Matt will Esko was
Speaker 6: a full participant with his shoulders. So kind of a
Speaker 6: couple of things to keep an eye on as the
Speaker 6: week goes on. Yeah, it's it's gonna be an interesting week,
Speaker 6: especially Freako double can't go and or Tyron Smith slash
Speaker 6: too Maneydoga. Then then you're starting to work with a
Speaker 6: lot of things before Saturday.
Speaker 5: I know, Thursday usually gives us a lot more information
Speaker 5: in terms of guy's probability for availability on the game
Speaker 5: day Sundays. Typically this week is gonna be Saturday Night
Speaker 5: obviously or a AT and T. But what's you guys's
Speaker 5: confidence level right now in the availability of Jonathan Hankins.
Speaker 7: So I would say Tyron Smith is ahead of Jonathan Hankins.
Speaker 7: And we'll know later today when the injury report comes
Speaker 7: out because today will be like a Friday. And last
Speaker 7: week Tyron was doubtful. And I'm pretty sure, I'm like
Speaker 7: ninety nine point nine percent sure that there has not
Speaker 7: been a person listened as doubtful that's played this season
Speaker 7: for the Dallas Cowboys. So if you see Tyron Smith
Speaker 7: is doubtful or Jonathan Hankins is doubtful, you know that
Speaker 7: they're most likely not playing. I think Tyron's going to
Speaker 7: be questionable. I don't know about Hankins. So I feel
Speaker 7: a lot more confident because if they list you a
Speaker 7: question wele I think it's like fifty to fifty that
Speaker 7: you're going to play or whatever. I think that's closer
Speaker 7: to sixty or seventy percent that Tyrant plays. I think
Speaker 7: for Jonathan Hankins it's forty.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was I was putting in about thirty forty.
Speaker 6: I bet Hankins is doubtful. Smith is questionable. And there's
Speaker 6: only been one player in the entire league this year
Speaker 6: that's played when listed is doubtful and it was Max
Speaker 6: Crosby a few weeks ago.
Speaker 7: So no kidding, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2: So it's since he's the only one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's different.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but yeah, if they were playing the Chiefs, like,
Speaker 6: he's not gonna miss that game. So uh but yeah,
Speaker 6: if that's kind of my prediction, we'll have game designations
Speaker 6: come out of today since today is technically a Friday
Speaker 6: in the building, and then tomorrow would be a Saturday.
Speaker 6: So uh yeah, definitely some things to keep an eye
Speaker 6: on as far as enturies go.
Speaker 4: I don't like it. I don't like it one bit. Man.
Speaker 5: What's what's it looking like over there in Detroit? Are
Speaker 5: they Are they looking relatively healthy right now?
Speaker 2: Or yeah one moment, gay, yeah, give me.
Speaker 7: Sorry, all things considered for this time of year, that
Speaker 7: they are. Yeah, I mean there's like a couple guys
Speaker 7: that are on their injury list. But in terms of
Speaker 7: this part of the season where you look at so
Speaker 7: many teams that have lost like key guys because early
Speaker 7: in the year they lost challenging Ardner Johnson and he
Speaker 7: has been like working back into practice. I don't know
Speaker 7: if they he'll come back for this game, but they're
Speaker 7: ramping him up so that he could potentially be back
Speaker 7: for the start of the playoffs. But their safeties have
Speaker 7: actually played pretty well, so it'll be interesting to see
Speaker 7: how he works back into that mix. But it seems
Speaker 7: like it would be iffy for him to return for
Speaker 7: this game, but he's He's obviously a really good player.
Speaker 7: I thought I thought he was a huge part of
Speaker 7: the Eagles last year, Like I just kind of help
Speaker 7: him putting them over the top. Also, by the way,
Speaker 7: when the athletic pulled anonymous players throughout the league, he
Speaker 7: was by far and away the winner for the biggest
Speaker 7: trash talker in the NFL. I just wanted to throw that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Ramsey wasn't really chirpy that he was he was.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know what was going on there. Was he
Speaker 2: bored or I.
Speaker 4: Don't know, he was followed, So maybe that was a
Speaker 4: part of it.
Speaker 6: Maybe maybe for Detroit, they're starting left tackle Taylor Decker
Speaker 6: did not practice yesterday with a groin injury. He was
Speaker 6: limited on Tuesday and it was downgraded to a did
Speaker 6: not practice. So that's that is one thing to keep
Speaker 6: an eye on as the week goes on. As far
Speaker 6: as everybody else, we mentioned it yesterday, backup tight end
Speaker 6: brock Wright, who's kind of worked in whenever Laporta is
Speaker 6: off the field.
Speaker 2: He did not practice yesterday.
Speaker 6: But as far as everybody else like it, Pinnace seols
Speaker 6: on there, Frank Ragnole is on there, but their full participants,
Speaker 6: and then CJ.
Speaker 2: Gardner.
Speaker 6: Johnson remains limited, but he still needs to be activated
Speaker 6: from the IR to play on Saturday.
Speaker 4: All right, that's it, so I gotta go.
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Speaker 5: update there and the Detroit Lions. When we've come back,
Speaker 5: we're gonna take a little bit deeper dive into what
Speaker 5: this defense is looking like of the Detroit Lions, of
Speaker 5: how they can try to slow down the offensive the
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Speaker 2: You know we didn't.
Speaker 4: We don't get my oats in. I mean, come on, huh, you've.
Speaker 2: Probably eaten more oats this morning than we have ever
Speaker 2: before ten a ms.
Speaker 4: Believe, no doubt, probably no doubt, but I think we
Speaker 4: might have talked about this. What do you put in
Speaker 4: your oats?
Speaker 7: I mean, probably would put strawberries in if I oh.
Speaker 4: Your strawberry. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm more of like a brown sugar cinnamon guy.
Speaker 13: Me too, Yeah, me.
Speaker 5: Too'm brown sugar cinnamon. And I like a little bit
Speaker 5: not cinnamon, but brown sugar for sure. And raisins or crazines?
Speaker 7: Are you turning it into like we got a joke, yesterory?
Speaker 7: I can't put strawberries in a hot in a hot food,
Speaker 7: I don't need oats, So I don't know what you
Speaker 7: put it on. Thinking of like what you would cook
Speaker 7: up with, like some cereal that I would like. But anyway,
Speaker 7: like I always think it's funny when someone gets a salad.
Speaker 7: Guy over here, someone gets a salad and they get
Speaker 7: like bacon and ranch and all the stuff to where
Speaker 7: it's like it's not even really healthy at this point.
Speaker 7: Like that's what I'm thinking, Like, these oats are just
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Speaker 5: All right, well, y'all, it's time to talk a little
Speaker 5: bit of defense for the Detroit Lions and what they
Speaker 5: can potentially do or what problems they present for the
Speaker 5: Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Hold up, does that mean it's time for some.
Speaker 4: Why Eddie? Why Eddie?
Speaker 1: It's time for QB vision with Isaiah's.
Speaker 5: Standback liking Nick, let's get a little intro right there.
Speaker 5: All right, let's get into the details a little bit.
Speaker 4: The Detroit Lions. All right, right off the back.
Speaker 5: Soon as you started talking about the Detroit Lions and
Speaker 5: their defense, I really believe that the ethos of their
Speaker 5: team is on defense. I think that Dan Campbell has
Speaker 5: these guys running and hidden. Aaron Glenn, my former teammate.
Speaker 5: Here are Dallas Cowboys. The defensive coordinator. He was a
Speaker 5: cornerback here in Dallas and now he's a decordinator down
Speaker 5: to Detroit. There is an identity with this team, and
Speaker 5: I believe that the physicality is a requirement in order
Speaker 5: to be on the field for the defense of the
Speaker 5: Detroit Lions. When you think about what they're doing scheme wise,
Speaker 5: it's not a lot of craziness, but you have to
Speaker 5: have your antennas up. These guys want to come out
Speaker 5: and be very base. They want to come out with
Speaker 5: their base defense and they want to play downhill. They
Speaker 5: number one, they want to stop the run. That is
Speaker 5: right off the back. They want to stop the run.
Speaker 5: They got some big fellas in the middle. These jokers
Speaker 5: are huge. I know we talked about how big one
Speaker 5: of the guys of Miami Dolphins were. They were big
Speaker 5: and athletic, more Aaron donald Ish right, kind of quick twitch.
Speaker 5: These guys for the Detroit Lions are just big nasties upfront.
Speaker 5: As as Nate Newton called.
Speaker 2: Them fourth best rush defense in the NFL.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're they're kind of stout. They're stout, and this
Speaker 5: computer's not jelling with me, But I'm trying to pull
Speaker 5: up their sizes here so that you guys have a
Speaker 5: little bit greater understanding. Isaiah Buggs big man up front?
Speaker 5: How big as is do six three three thirty five? Okay,
Speaker 5: playing right next to him is another big joker in
Speaker 5: Benito Jones, and he is six one three thirty five.
Speaker 5: So when you started talking about the ability to move
Speaker 5: guys off the ball and move them backwards, the probability
Speaker 5: level is relatively low unless you're trying to find a
Speaker 5: way to get double teams and get combo blocks to
Speaker 5: be able to push up to the next level. So
Speaker 5: as we talk about trying to get Tony Pollard, getting
Speaker 5: him going more frequently, this may not be the.
Speaker 4: Best game for that, at least inside the tackles.
Speaker 5: However, I do believe that they're that they're kind of
Speaker 5: soft on the edges, And that's kind of surprising to
Speaker 5: me because of how much we've talked about Aiden Hutcheson
Speaker 5: and how.
Speaker 4: Important he is to this team.
Speaker 5: He hasn't been as active as he has been in
Speaker 5: for recent years, at least on film.
Speaker 4: He's not popping off the film.
Speaker 5: To me, I think he's still giving great effort, but
Speaker 5: it seems like his technique is nowhere near what it
Speaker 5: used to be.
Speaker 4: And I'm not sure what that.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure why, but he's less effective to me
Speaker 5: on film than he has been in recent years.
Speaker 2: You know, That's what you were talking about. That's that's
Speaker 2: popped out to me as well.
Speaker 6: And you think of the problems that has happened with
Speaker 6: Mazie Smith and his rookie year and where both of
Speaker 6: them went to college. I don't know, it's just something
Speaker 6: to think of, like it's technique maybe something that's being
Speaker 6: whacked at Michigan Bama.
Speaker 2: I'm picking Baylor.
Speaker 4: Jalen Bamin versus Washington.
Speaker 2: Baby, let's go, if you want to let it go,
Speaker 2: let mil Row throw Oh go, okay?
Speaker 7: Interesting?
Speaker 5: So yeah, no, So I'm glad that I'm not the
Speaker 5: only one that's seen that Aiden hutcheson. As much as
Speaker 5: you hear his name, you're going to continue to hear
Speaker 5: his name in terms of effort. The next man that
Speaker 5: you're going to hear in regards to effort is a
Speaker 5: gentleman that's right behind him and alex and zelone, Okay,
Speaker 5: alex en zelone. He is going to be number thirty four,
Speaker 5: and then outside of that is going to be Jack Campbell.
Speaker 5: Those guys, to me are the energy buses defensively for them,
Speaker 5: at least in that front seven.
Speaker 4: It's going to be very difficult to get to get
Speaker 4: the ball moving on the ground. That's what I foresee.
Speaker 4: At least.
Speaker 2: Do you like Jack Campbell?
Speaker 6: I think coming out, I really enjoyed what he did
Speaker 6: in a Big ten defense and was able to be
Speaker 6: that run stopper and the consistent run guy, and I
Speaker 6: think he has a lot of that. But I think
Speaker 6: there's just some things he lacks from a physicality standpoint,
Speaker 6: Like I don't know if he can be as physical
Speaker 6: as he needs to be whenever offensive linemen are pushing
Speaker 6: it to the second level.
Speaker 2: I could just be a rookie thing like you need
Speaker 2: a couple of years to adjust to that. But what
Speaker 2: have you seen?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I agree, I don't see that the physicality from him,
Speaker 5: But I do see decisiveness in terms of him coming downhill,
Speaker 5: Like he wants to come downhill, he wants to stop
Speaker 5: the run, and I think he has the free range
Speaker 5: to do so because of those big guys in the middle.
Speaker 5: When you got seven hundred pounds, you know, close seven
Speaker 5: hundred pounds in front of you, it's relatively easy to
Speaker 5: be able to roam free and pick whatever hole that
Speaker 5: you want to and then and then make sure that
Speaker 5: your gap discipline. And that's what these guys are defensively
Speaker 5: in terms of their rush, their running defense, they're very
Speaker 5: gap discipline. They're not hopping around, they're not doing a
Speaker 5: bunch of stunts. They're big guys are literally two gapping,
Speaker 5: meaning that they're just literally just grabbing onto alignment, pushing
Speaker 5: them away from them, and then kind of peeking over
Speaker 5: the shoulders, kind of playing hide and go seek. And
Speaker 5: while they're trying to progress him backwards that you know,
Speaker 5: progress office linement backwards. And then they're letting these linebackers
Speaker 5: just come and shoot the shoot the gaps. The problem
Speaker 5: that I foresee, or that that they do a really
Speaker 5: good job of, is whenever they do want to get
Speaker 5: after the quarterback, they widen the entire line out, very
Speaker 5: similar to what to what Dan Quinn does with our
Speaker 5: defensive line. Whenever he wants to elicit pressure, he widens
Speaker 5: the guys out to his d tackles out to five techniques.
Speaker 5: His defensive ends go to freaking ten eleven techniques, whatever
Speaker 5: you want to call it. Okay, they're really wide and
Speaker 5: he ISOs that center right. But the thing is instead
Speaker 5: of being a Micah Parsons where he's isolating right up
Speaker 5: the middle, these guys are bringing pressure off the edges.
Speaker 4: And how that causes issues is.
Speaker 5: It really opens up the gaps between the tackles and
Speaker 5: the offensive guards.
Speaker 2: What happened I left tackle?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah tackle?
Speaker 4: So the math in fact you bring that up. That's
Speaker 4: what I'm seeing on film.
Speaker 5: Whenever they want to elicit pressure, they're really widening those
Speaker 5: defensive linements, stretching out your responsibilities as an offensive line,
Speaker 5: and they're just natural seams.
Speaker 4: There's natural seams.
Speaker 12: Now.
Speaker 5: They're typically doing that on passing down, so you don't
Speaker 5: even have a threat of run because typically if you
Speaker 5: see five techniques out there defensive tackles and eleven techniques
Speaker 5: of dms, you're like, okay, just run it up the middle,
Speaker 5: whereas typically on passing downs they're doing this and they
Speaker 5: bring their pressure from the edges. And this is where
Speaker 5: Aaron Goodglan has these guys locked in. Not only are
Speaker 5: they gap discipline up front when they want to bring pressure,
Speaker 5: and I think they have. They have the seventh best
Speaker 5: pressure rate in the league right now, I believe from
Speaker 5: correct again, seventh best Dallas is number one. Okay, they
Speaker 5: are bringing it from wherever.
Speaker 4: But it's usually one guy. Typically is one guy.
Speaker 5: Every so often they'll bring two, right, but they usually
Speaker 5: bring a one guy and he'll come from anywhere. It
Speaker 5: could be a cornerback from the field. It could be
Speaker 5: an outside linebacker, it could be a safety from seventeen
Speaker 5: yards deep. It's crazy how these guys bring pressure and
Speaker 5: they don't tip it off.
Speaker 4: That's the thing. They don't tip it off. I trust me.
Speaker 4: I was looking for a key. I was looking for
Speaker 4: some kind of cute. There was nothing.
Speaker 5: The only thing that I was able to find that
Speaker 5: may raise Dax Antenna's up a little bit is when
Speaker 5: teams motion, if you motion in the direction of of
Speaker 5: their of their their obviously, if you if you motion
Speaker 5: across the formation, when they adjust, it's almost like a
Speaker 5: green light for them to go.
Speaker 4: And it's really weird.
Speaker 5: I was looking for it to be consistent. Obviously, it's
Speaker 5: not nothing that you see is going to be one
Speaker 5: hundred percent right. They're just not going to do that.
Speaker 5: But it was a high percentage from the film that
Speaker 5: I watched that whenever you motion across the formation, when
Speaker 5: they adjust over, it almost gives that near side guy
Speaker 5: the green light to just go, regardless of what his
Speaker 5: responsibibilities were before you motion across, and he's like, all right,
Speaker 5: I get the green light to go blitz And it's
Speaker 5: almost every single time that I've seen it. So with that,
Speaker 5: I would say, be very wary in terms of what
Speaker 5: you're doing motion wise, and if you're doing so, like
Speaker 5: use it as bait because you're because you know what
Speaker 5: type of action that you're going to get from them,
Speaker 5: what type of reaction, But something to keep your antennas
Speaker 5: up on as.
Speaker 4: You guys are watching film, as you guys are ready
Speaker 4: to watch the game.
Speaker 5: Whenever if we motion across that formation, keep your eyes
Speaker 5: on that second level because somebody most likely is coming
Speaker 5: and there's nothing that they're doing that gives you an
Speaker 5: indication of who's coming, but you just typically know the
Speaker 5: area in which is coming from. Did you is there
Speaker 5: anything that you guys saw on film in terms of
Speaker 5: pressure wise?
Speaker 6: Pressure wise, I think if it can be limited and
Speaker 6: you can find as a stride in being able to
Speaker 6: limit the pressure that's coming in, there's opportunities in that secondary.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, a really young secondary. I know you'll dive
Speaker 2: into it.
Speaker 6: I think that's where Detroit has had the most struggle
Speaker 6: in the last few weeks. As far as you know,
Speaker 6: they've kind of gone through some lumps in the past,
Speaker 6: going into like going into Thanksgiving obviously that Thanksgiving game
Speaker 6: against Green Bay, and then kind of since then they've
Speaker 6: been up and down depending on what game you watch.
Speaker 2: But I think there's opportunities to find some things in
Speaker 2: that secondary.
Speaker 5: Of the top there is, and being that these guys
Speaker 5: are so adamant about stopping the run, being that their
Speaker 5: linebackers are very aggressive their d line once you just
Speaker 5: come downhill for they're not doing stunts, they just want
Speaker 5: to play vertical. They are overly aggressive towards the run.
Speaker 5: And because they're overly aggressive towards the run, there's a
Speaker 5: lot of plays that you can get going against them
Speaker 5: in the play action game. You can get behind their
Speaker 5: second level because their linebackers can't cover their linebackers. Their
Speaker 5: hips are locked up like akon, they just they don't open. Okay,
Speaker 5: but there's there's exactly so there's plenty of opportunities there. However, However,
Speaker 5: their safety is do an amazing job of disguising coverage.
Speaker 5: Amazing job. This is probably the best I've seen out
Speaker 5: of disguises of safeties and what their responsibilities are. Since
Speaker 5: I played back with Pittsburgh and Troy Polamlou had a
Speaker 5: freedom to do whatever the heck he wanted to, this
Speaker 5: is probably the best.
Speaker 4: And I know that's a that's a big comparison.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that these guys are Paula Malu, but
Speaker 5: I'm saying what they're doing with their coverages and their
Speaker 5: disguises and how how they're rolling to coverage is very late, right,
Speaker 5: I mean, yes, it's one second after the snap. These
Speaker 5: guys are then rolling. Sometimes these guys are have their
Speaker 5: safety all the way down in the box. And these
Speaker 5: guys are running back like Troy used to back in
Speaker 5: the day and Ed Reid. Right, you think about those
Speaker 5: guys that had the freedom to be at the line
Speaker 5: of scrimmage and then they're jetting out, springing, you know,
Speaker 5: twenty twenty five yards back.
Speaker 4: That's what these guys do.
Speaker 5: So in terms of Dak identifying what he believes it
Speaker 5: to be pre snap and what he sees it to
Speaker 5: be post snap, I think that may present a problem.
Speaker 5: He's gonna have to do a really good job of
Speaker 5: looking at finding those guys, finding out what he believes
Speaker 5: that they're supposed to be doing, and then getting that confirmation,
Speaker 5: because you can really get tricked in terms of where.
Speaker 4: These guys end up after the ball is snapped.
Speaker 5: And that's a little bit worrisome to me, just because
Speaker 5: of how I know where our guys are typically open.
Speaker 5: Our guys are typically open on in the middle of
Speaker 5: the field. That's usually where we like to eat up
Speaker 5: the middle of the field. And these safeties are all
Speaker 5: over the place and don't mess up because their safeties
Speaker 5: are ball hawks. Both of their safeties are ball hawks.
Speaker 5: And the guy who sticks out on film to me
Speaker 5: out more than anybody else on their team. Sorry, this
Speaker 5: Doug n things just going out on me. Okay, here
Speaker 5: we go, number six, Yeah.
Speaker 11: Go for that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go. You said to its malafin there
Speaker 4: you go? What he said? He f yeah, there you go.
Speaker 5: He's a beast. He's a beast. I don't know if
Speaker 5: anybody else perceives it that way, but I do. And
Speaker 5: he pops off the film to me, He to me
Speaker 5: more than anybody else on this defense. To me, I
Speaker 5: feel like he everything revolves around his ability to play
Speaker 5: at the line of scrimmage, to play in coverage, to
Speaker 5: be a ball hawk, to run and hit like he's
Speaker 5: the guy that jumps off the film to me when
Speaker 5: I watch the game, and I watched multiple games, and
Speaker 5: it's consistent. Either he's either he's intercepting the ball, either
Speaker 5: he's coming down and playing coverage from from the city position.
Speaker 5: He's coming down, he's playing coverage, or he's hitting a
Speaker 5: mess out of somebody. If they're coming across the field,
Speaker 5: he's making you pay, so you better find out where
Speaker 5: the heck he's at at all times. Like there's one
Speaker 5: guy that I'm saying, hey, come out there and dak
Speaker 5: circle him and find him.
Speaker 4: Number six is a guy who would.
Speaker 2: You compare him to ah manferent lanky man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's linking, he's rangy and unlike a lot of
Speaker 5: other safeties, they're not sitting back and kind of waiting
Speaker 5: for the ball to come to them.
Speaker 4: That makes its like they're going to get the ball.
Speaker 5: It's almost like if the balls at the air, like
Speaker 5: in their head, that's their ball, Like they're all their
Speaker 5: guys are aggressive that way, but especially him he has
Speaker 5: the ability to actually bring it down. I don't know
Speaker 5: who I would compare him to. I really don't. I
Speaker 5: feel like he's I feel like he is like our
Speaker 5: version of Malik Hooker, but with more more aggressive and
Speaker 5: Malik's been playing more aggressive as of late. But like
Speaker 5: I feel like, because they don't run that three safety
Speaker 5: look like Dallas does, he's required I'm talking about that
Speaker 5: is he's required to cover more ground and because of that,
Speaker 5: you see him flying all over the place. But he's
Speaker 5: the guy that causes me concern, not Adam, not not
Speaker 5: not Hutch, not any of these other guys, not you know, Azelone.
Speaker 5: Those are all effort guys. If I'm concerned about anybody
Speaker 5: on their defense is number six.
Speaker 6: The comparison to the NFL dot Com gave him whenever
Speaker 6: he was during the draft process was Trumaine Johnson, which
Speaker 6: is very very specific. He was a long, kind of
Speaker 6: rangy defensive back. He played more corner, but he played
Speaker 6: a lot of safety as well. So that's that's interesting.
Speaker 6: A couple numbers I wanted to throw at you here
Speaker 6: because I'm honestly, if Tyrons Smith plays on Sunday or
Speaker 6: Saturday and there's an opportunity to limit that pressure coming
Speaker 6: off the left side.
Speaker 2: I'm not worried about this defense. Yeah, I'm really not.
Speaker 6: You look at the pass defense twenty fourth in the NFL.
Speaker 6: You look at sacks generated. Would you guess what number
Speaker 6: that they are in the NFL? Probably based on their
Speaker 6: pressure rates seventh and pressure rate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not getting sacks twenty fourth.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And as far as getting to the quarterback.
Speaker 4: So they beat up, they beat up Denver, they beat
Speaker 4: the crap out of Denver.
Speaker 6: Yeah, as long as they can keep Dak clean, and
Speaker 6: we've seen what Dak can do whenever he is clean
Speaker 6: in the pocket.
Speaker 2: This year, I think this offense is fine.
Speaker 6: It's it's I'm kind of expecting the shootout that we
Speaker 6: expected last week, yeah, and this one. But yeah, I
Speaker 6: think if Tyron Smith goes, this offense is fine. If
Speaker 6: Tyns Smith can't go, I still feel like there's opportunities.
Speaker 6: It's just there's gonna be a little bit more pressure
Speaker 6: off that loft side as we saw against Miami.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I completely agree with you on that. I mean,
Speaker 7: obviously it's better with Tyron, but there's something about this
Speaker 7: team when they play at home and then the other
Speaker 7: thing that stands out to me is that there was
Speaker 7: so much talk after that Niners game about how CD
Speaker 7: didn't get the ball enough, and now the following week,
Speaker 7: I think it. I mean it's targets went from five Constanrancisco,
Speaker 7: I think seven against the Chargers. But when they came
Speaker 7: back after the bye, that's when it was like, you know,
Speaker 7: twelve fourteen targets per game. Man, I got a feeling
Speaker 7: that they're just they're gonna go. They're coming out passing
Speaker 7: from the beginning. Yeah, I just I just see this
Speaker 7: being a big game for CD Lamb. You know, I
Speaker 7: thought it was interesting actually how Dak was talking about how,
Speaker 7: you know, CD needs three receptions to pass Michael Irv
Speaker 7: and obviously Michael Irvin will be in the building at least,
Speaker 7: we think with you know, Jimmie Johnson going in the
Speaker 7: Ring of Honor, just everything about this. Knowing how the
Speaker 7: Lions played defensively, I'm like, why are you just gonna
Speaker 7: run into a brick wall. I mean, this is a
Speaker 7: team I think it's three point six, three point seven
Speaker 7: yards per carry. I mean, this is one of the
Speaker 7: best run defenses in the league. I get that you're
Speaker 7: going to have to run the ball at some point,
Speaker 7: but I would I would. I think that they're going
Speaker 7: to start by trying to go up tempo and try
Speaker 7: and move the ball around one player. I want to
Speaker 7: ask you about not about Lions as much as you know,
Speaker 7: you see that you see that catch that that Jalen
Speaker 7: Tolbert makes in Miami. You know what, what do you
Speaker 7: think that that potentially does for a guy's confidence, Not
Speaker 7: that he needed a confidence booster, but to pull down
Speaker 7: a big catch like that in a big moment.
Speaker 4: It's huge for him. It's even greater for Dak.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's huge for Jalen Tolbert to get affirmation
Speaker 5: of his his self confidence. But it's even greater for
Speaker 5: Dak in this offense to know that hey, in for
Speaker 5: a contested catch, right, there's somebody outside of CD. There's
Speaker 5: somebody outside of Cooks or somebody outside of Gallup right
Speaker 5: that we know that can make a contested catch.
Speaker 4: And this young fella came to play.
Speaker 5: He's been coming along all year long, and when we
Speaker 5: when we need him most, he's apparently going to be there.
Speaker 5: And I think that assurance to this offense and the
Speaker 5: people who are in charge of calling the plays and
Speaker 5: the operation at a place is absolutely is huge.
Speaker 3: I actually asked him that yesterday. Hey, guys, I asked
Speaker 3: him that yesterday in the locker room. I said, hey,
Speaker 3: first off, nice play. Second off, what does that do?
Speaker 3: And he said, basically the same thing.
Speaker 2: He's like.
Speaker 3: Honestly, it reminded me of who I used to be,
Speaker 3: which I really liked him coming out of the draft
Speaker 3: in South Alabama. He was a contested catch guy, but
Speaker 3: he was doing it against future accountants in that in
Speaker 3: the Sun Belt. He wasn't doing it against top notch
Speaker 3: professional corners and defensive backs like he was.
Speaker 4: He was having to make plays as your accountant. Are
Speaker 4: they your accountants?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: Not my account I don't make fun of the fun Belt,
Speaker 2: all right, sorry?
Speaker 4: But he was That's the thing, is he?
Speaker 3: He He said, At times I forgot who I was,
Speaker 3: And that was another play where it's like I'm back,
Speaker 3: ye I am who I once was, And so yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a confidence boost for him.
Speaker 4: But I agree with you.
Speaker 3: I think that now it gets to the point where
Speaker 3: you're in a similar, similar situation. You're throwing the ball
Speaker 3: down the field and you're going, Okay, their CD He's
Speaker 3: there's Gallop or whoever cooks covered, there's Jalin told let
Speaker 3: me throw them the ball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's huge.
Speaker 3: It adds another weapon, somebody that you can rely on.
Speaker 2: Yep, really quick.
Speaker 6: On the note about CD only needing three receptions on
Speaker 6: Saturday night, he also needs only one hundred and seventy
Speaker 6: nine yards to break Irvan's record, So if he gets both,
Speaker 6: that would be that'd be fascinating.
Speaker 2: That'd be dope, that'd be fascinating.
Speaker 3: On Jimmy Johnson, They'll be in the building.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be that'll be interesting, that awesome.
Speaker 7: I just feel like you just expect this game to
Speaker 7: be Detroit's gonna do everything that they can to run
Speaker 7: the ball, keep keep Dallas's offense off the field, and
Speaker 7: then if Dallas gets a chance to throw the ball
Speaker 7: over the yard, which they should, then then they'll be
Speaker 7: at their best. But I just I look at the
Speaker 7: way that both these teams have played all season, and
Speaker 7: I don't think that it's I don't know. I think
Speaker 7: that this is the biggest game. If either one of
Speaker 7: these teams, who ever wins, it will be their biggest
Speaker 7: win of the season.
Speaker 2: That's fair.
Speaker 3: That's a fair yeah, fair assessment. I think it would
Speaker 3: be my my biggest win for the Cowboys in terms
Speaker 3: of confidence level. I can tell you about that a
Speaker 3: little bit more. I kind of want to talk about
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Speaker 3: a good job the first time around. We'll be back
Speaker 3: with more talking Cowboys right after this.
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Speaker 4: I listened to you guys on the way in. It
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Speaker 2: Oh god, why you were changing your tire?
Speaker 3: Yeah, while I was changing the tire, I still got like,
Speaker 3: like I noticed stuff all over your hands.
Speaker 4: From Yeah, I've got grime all over. Yeah. It's it's rough.
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Speaker 3: I want to tell you why this game specifically, and
Speaker 3: I'm gonna see what you guys think about.
Speaker 4: This as well.
Speaker 3: If if Dallas falls in this game, it almost feels
Speaker 3: like there one shield of armor. They're one plate of
Speaker 3: armor has been penetrated, and that's home field advantage, right,
Speaker 3: That's that's what it feels like, is when you get
Speaker 3: to that point in time where you can go into
Speaker 3: the playoffs and have that one thing you can rely
Speaker 3: on and that's your home field, and that gets just
Speaker 3: upended by the Detroit Lions. I can't stand you us.
Speaker 3: So he's it's just as soon as I walk in
Speaker 3: the building.
Speaker 4: Okay, you choke up on your tea, Yeah my tea, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I got stuck.
Speaker 6: The thing is, though, it's not looking like they're going
Speaker 6: to play at home in the playoffs. I mean unless
Speaker 6: a couple of things happen on wild cards.
Speaker 3: Obviously don't have any confidence on the road.
Speaker 2: Though, not right now.
Speaker 7: Yeah, man, in three games in a row, losing to Buffalo,
Speaker 7: Miami and Detroit, it would be you know, three equality opponents.
Speaker 7: Beating Washington the phone week does nothing for you in
Speaker 7: terms of absolutely not.
Speaker 3: It could be fifty, but it could build your confidence
Speaker 3: to say, Okay, we're still the same team. If you
Speaker 3: get a win in Detroit, yeah, you can build that
Speaker 3: confidence to say this is the same team. We just
Speaker 3: had a couple down weeks against Miami and Buffalo, and
Speaker 3: then he just happened.
Speaker 4: To be on the road.
Speaker 3: So from where my confidence level is waivered, it hasn't
Speaker 3: waivered a.
Speaker 4: Whole lot this year.
Speaker 3: I think this team is right where you expected them
Speaker 3: to be. I picked them to go eleven and six,
Speaker 3: twelve and five, like right around there, and they're there.
Speaker 3: This is where that team was expected to be. Whether
Speaker 3: they win the division or not, that's mostly outside of
Speaker 3: their own control. But with this win, I think my
Speaker 3: confidence would go further up than it has. And I
Speaker 3: think my confidence would take a hit if they do
Speaker 3: end up losing more than any other loss this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can understand that, I think. I think for me,
Speaker 2: I think the biggest confidence booster for this team was
Speaker 2: that win against Philadelphia, just because the commanding fashion that
Speaker 2: had happened.
Speaker 3: I don't could you say that's the only confidence boost
Speaker 3: for this team this year. So far this year in
Speaker 3: terms of a singular win, I know they've blown some
Speaker 3: teams out.
Speaker 6: I mean, like that win against the Rams coming up
Speaker 6: to the bye week, and you look back on that too,
Speaker 6: especially how the Rams have been playing recently. Yeah, they
Speaker 6: didn't have Kyon Williams. Yes, Cooper Cup was still getting
Speaker 6: back on the field and used to thinks. But like
Speaker 6: you look back on that, a twenty three point win
Speaker 6: coming out of the bye week at a time when
Speaker 6: they had a lot of self reflection in that time,
Speaker 6: that was a big win. This win would be bigger.
Speaker 6: A Detroit win would definitely be bigger. But as far
Speaker 6: as Philadelphia goes, I mean, a twenty point win against
Speaker 6: you know, the team that made the Super Bowl last year,
Speaker 6: the team that won the NFC. I think that proves
Speaker 6: what this team can be on their best day. I'm
Speaker 6: sure it would give them confidence if they had to
Speaker 6: go back up to Philly in January.
Speaker 5: What do you think My answer is not going to
Speaker 5: be received. Well, I feel like this team gain more
Speaker 5: confidence last week. Okay, honestly, I think that the question marks,
Speaker 5: the question marks revolving around this team are can you
Speaker 5: hang with a team that can score points on your
Speaker 5: defense and run the ball? And I mean yeah, right,
Speaker 5: but being able to stop the run it was huge
Speaker 5: for this t and facing the Miami Dolphins, which are
Speaker 5: obviously went fourth in the league in rushing and number
Speaker 5: one in passing and keeping them to twenty two points
Speaker 5: like that, to me is a huge confidence booster.
Speaker 4: Knowing that.
Speaker 5: Minor errors were the reason why, you know, correctable errors
Speaker 5: were the reason why you lost.
Speaker 4: The ball game.
Speaker 5: You know, you talk about Tony Pollard not scoring, that's
Speaker 5: that's something he could change, Like he just has to
Speaker 5: trust his speed. And you talk about the following play
Speaker 5: Hunter Lifty, you know, just not securing the ball like
Speaker 5: those that changes the game. And I feel like if
Speaker 5: you convert on those things, you win the ballgame. And
Speaker 5: Miami to me, is one of the most threatening teams
Speaker 5: in the league. To me, they're one of the most
Speaker 5: threatening teams the league because you you just feel as
Speaker 5: if you can't stop them from scoring. And to me,
Speaker 5: I believe that they gained a ton of confidence last
Speaker 5: week off of that. Knowing that, hey, they had all
Speaker 5: their guns. They had all their guns, right. They had
Speaker 5: Raheem Moster, they had you know, a hn, they had
Speaker 5: you know, Tyreek Hill, they had Waddle, they had everybody,
Speaker 5: and you still held them and you handled them relatively
Speaker 5: well and kept them in check. It just your offense
Speaker 5: had some issues, right, they just fumbled the rock. They
Speaker 5: had a couple other things they did in convert on.
Speaker 5: To me, I gain more confidence with that this part
Speaker 5: of the year than anything else that's really happened this year.
Speaker 5: That's not to say that Philadelphia wasn't important in any
Speaker 5: of those other things.
Speaker 4: That everybody's probably going to have a rebuttal on.
Speaker 5: But to me last week, knowing how close you were
Speaker 5: and knowing that easy, easy corrections changes the outcome of
Speaker 5: that game, that gives me more confidence than anything.
Speaker 7: And I agree with you, and I think it's funny
Speaker 7: because of the fact of how many teams would you
Speaker 7: sit there and say that I want to take it
Speaker 7: another step. I want to say that I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 7: go to the third game that I think is most important.
Speaker 7: I would agree with you on that, and it's two
Speaker 7: losses now because I would say the loss at Philadelphia,
Speaker 7: the way they played there, come back win five games
Speaker 7: in a row off of that. You know, I think
Speaker 7: as you're leaving the press box when they lost phil
Speaker 7: you're like, Yah, they're probably gonna pretty down there. But
Speaker 7: when you're in the locker room, like I said at
Speaker 7: the time, and I say again, now, that's the most
Speaker 7: up I've seen a locker room after a loss in
Speaker 7: any time covered the Cowboys, they roll off win five
Speaker 7: in a row. So that's one of the top three
Speaker 7: most important games they've had this year. I think the
Speaker 7: Miami one's there too, but I would say Number one
Speaker 7: for me would be the win against Philly. But if
Speaker 7: they beat the Lions on Saturday night, we're just where
Speaker 7: this Lions team's at, how well that they've played, being
Speaker 7: a division champ, I think that would take over the
Speaker 7: top spot for me.
Speaker 6: You know what's kind of fascinating. They've been through a
Speaker 6: stretch like this already this season. You look back to
Speaker 6: the lost in San Francisco, pretty demoralizing. You look back
Speaker 6: to the lost in Buffalo, similar things. Then the very
Speaker 6: next week. In both of those instances, you need a
Speaker 6: late offensive score to take the lead, You need one
Speaker 6: defensive stop to win the game.
Speaker 2: They get that in LA. They don't get that in Miami.
Speaker 2: But they're able to score and you know, make that
Speaker 2: game what it was.
Speaker 6: And then CD's talking about coming out of both of
Speaker 6: those games, just feed me, feed me, basically, and they
Speaker 6: come out of the bye weekend, what does he do?
Speaker 6: He rattles off what is that three straight one and
Speaker 6: fifty yard ten reception? Plus games, So maybe they've fall
Speaker 6: back on what they know works and that's feeding CD
Speaker 6: And especially in a moment like this, in a game
Speaker 6: like this, I think this is a CD's game.
Speaker 3: Just because you guys brought it up, especially Isaiah mentioned
Speaker 3: it a second ago, it probably isn't received well to
Speaker 3: say that, hey, you're building confidence from losses. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: play devil's advocate here, I actually do. Just disclaimer, I
Speaker 3: do agree with what you guys are saying, but just
Speaker 3: as a devil's advocate, is that a losing mindset to say, hey,
Speaker 3: two of our three most confident building games this year
Speaker 3: have been in losses? Or is that just a mindset
Speaker 3: to say, hey, we're not okay with losing, but we're
Speaker 3: okay with learning lessons along there.
Speaker 5: Everything's perspective, right, everything's perspective understanding, Like, there's no question
Speaker 5: this team.
Speaker 4: Doesn't have any quit. There's no question about that.
Speaker 5: Okay, you know they got their butts kicked a few
Speaker 5: times this year, but they don't have any quit in them.
Speaker 5: So knowing that, for me, you learn more from that,
Speaker 5: you're the losses. You learn more from adversity that you've
Speaker 5: faced in your life. I mean I think majority of
Speaker 5: people do. So to say that you gain more common
Speaker 5: is because of the lessons that you learn in those games,
Speaker 5: to me doesn't sound crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I don't need a pad on my back for beating
Speaker 5: the team. Don't pat me on my back for beating
Speaker 5: the team. Tell me what I did wrong? You know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like, tell me how I can get better?
Speaker 5: That's my outlook on life, Like okay, oh well I
Speaker 5: shouldn't say that on her, but yeah, there's there's.
Speaker 4: Some awards that I've gotten.
Speaker 12: It.
Speaker 4: That was actually showing my mother in law yesterday and
Speaker 4: she's like, why don't you have this put up? I'm like, like,
Speaker 4: I did it? Like what's next? Like what's next? Like,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, how can I get better?
Speaker 10: From me?
Speaker 4: I don't need to keep looking back and seeing, oh yeah,
Speaker 4: good job, that was awesome. Like I don't need to
Speaker 4: look at that.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 2: The difference is though they don't have those pleas on
Speaker 2: the wall. Okay, they don't have the pleas to put
Speaker 2: on the wall.
Speaker 6: I think that's the whole I think that's the whole
Speaker 6: frustration around this team is okay, looking like a third
Speaker 6: straight season of an eleven twelve win type year. What
Speaker 6: do you get out of it? Three straight divisional rounds
Speaker 6: or three straight you know, wild car slash division rounds.
Speaker 6: That's what fans are expecting at this point because you
Speaker 6: come off with two losses against really good teams on
Speaker 6: the road, knowing that you're gonna have to do that
Speaker 6: same exact thing in January.
Speaker 2: And I understand where the fans are coming from.
Speaker 6: So because they don't have those you know, accolades under
Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy or even under Jason Garrett, going back under
Speaker 6: Dak Prescott. So I think there's a little bit of
Speaker 6: difference there because they have to prove that they can
Speaker 6: stay in that realm when January comes. And I think
Speaker 6: if you can win in January, then it's a completely
Speaker 6: different story.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 5: But like, regardless of like how people perceive it, everything
Speaker 5: that you could talk about in regards to Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 5: is history history, and that's anything, right you could say, now,
Speaker 5: I have more confidence.
Speaker 4: Because of what their history shows me.
Speaker 5: Right, But in regards to the opportunities that are in
Speaker 5: front of you, you're into playoffs, that's yes, your number,
Speaker 5: I mean, that's number one goal. Give me an opportunity
Speaker 5: to go Hotel Lombardi right now, I hear you. But
Speaker 5: in order to even have a shot, Yeah, you got
Speaker 5: to get in the playoffs. And that's just the reality
Speaker 5: that's taking emotion out of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So now that I'm in there, okay, Now I'm in there, Okay,
Speaker 5: I need to put myself in the best position to
Speaker 5: go on a four game win street.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 5: Don't care how I get in there right now. There's
Speaker 5: preferred methods of getting in there. Right There's preferred methods
Speaker 5: in turns, home fields, easier routes, and things of that nature.
Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, I need a
Speaker 5: four game stretch in two weeks.
Speaker 6: Me and Kyle kind of talked about this yesterday and
Speaker 6: I'll let him take it here. But the Rangers had
Speaker 6: a very similar kind of yeah, yes, kind of run.
Speaker 3: We walked outside yesterday to media availability and.
Speaker 4: Take me higher by a Creed was playing.
Speaker 3: I was like, Wow, maybe they're trying to channel their
Speaker 3: enter Texas Rangers, because if you look at the Texas
Speaker 3: Rangers and the way that they played down the stretch,
Speaker 3: and I know this is a football show, but hold tight,
Speaker 3: I promise it does relate a lot of similarities.
Speaker 7: You're going to say, are very similar to Mike McCarthy's
Speaker 7: twenty ten Packers team.
Speaker 4: But going, wow, interesting, I didn't know that.
Speaker 7: I mean, they weren't that great, and they weren't that
Speaker 7: great in December.
Speaker 3: Nope, they pitter pattered down the stretch. They weren't very
Speaker 3: good on the road all season long. And I'm talking
Speaker 3: about the Rangers specifically. They and they blew the division late.
Speaker 3: Hopefully that doesn't happen. Let's not blow the division late,
Speaker 3: and let's see if we can still win that thing.
Speaker 3: You got two weeks left to try and show that.
Speaker 3: But let's say that the probabilities rang true and you
Speaker 3: do end up losing the division. Well, the Texas Rangers
Speaker 3: still found a way to go through the toughest route
Speaker 3: in the American League and beat the top teams, the
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay Rays, the Baltimore Orioles, and then of course
Speaker 3: the Houston Astros to get to the World Series, and
Speaker 3: then they won every single road game along the way.
Speaker 3: It can happen. It has happened in pro sports this year.
Speaker 3: It's happened in your city this year. So yeah, like
Speaker 3: you said, get in the dang tournament and see if
Speaker 3: you can figure it out from there.
Speaker 4: So we tell it on a run.
Speaker 7: I just don't worry as much about communication and baseball
Speaker 7: on the road as I do.
Speaker 4: It's a little bit different.
Speaker 2: It is kind of wild though, a little.
Speaker 7: Bit of the home thing I wanted to talk about
Speaker 7: real quick. It's just that Tom Brady is the last
Speaker 7: quarterback to beat the Cowboys at at and T Stadium.
Speaker 7: That just sounds weird.
Speaker 4: Whoa that is weird?
Speaker 3: How weird is that gonna sound if they win against
Speaker 3: Detroit and they don't play at home again right until
Speaker 3: later next year.
Speaker 7: The other one I was thinking of is that Tyler Smith.
Speaker 7: That was like, that's the only home loss that he's
Speaker 7: been part of, so he just is used to just
Speaker 7: walking to the locker room like, yeah, we just went
Speaker 7: he's been part.
Speaker 2: Of the first time that he's had back to back losses.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah too.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's strange looking at the twenty ten Packers really quick.
Speaker 6: They had two December losses, both of them on the
Speaker 6: road to Detroit and New England, and then obviously rattled
Speaker 6: off six straight wins to win the Super Bowl. But
Speaker 6: the difference there they didn't lose a game by more
Speaker 6: than four points.
Speaker 2: All season. They went ten and six in the regular season, and.
Speaker 7: I don't think they had Rogers for both of those losses. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I think he's played a little bit in the Detroit game,
Speaker 7: and then Matt Flynn came in. I think Matt Flynn
Speaker 7: played the other game too, So it's not apples to apples.
Speaker 2: Matt Flyn's Tyler Legacy High School.
Speaker 4: Let's go.
Speaker 2: But they had to go on the road in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: In the playoffs, they had to go win at Philadelphia,
Speaker 2: at Atlanta, at Chicago. So I mean it's been done
Speaker 2: by Mike McCarthy. We'll see, Yeah, we will see.
Speaker 7: Also the Cowboy, This current Cowboys seems a lot healthier
Speaker 7: than that Packers team was nice.
Speaker 3: Not home the one John not gonna be here tomorrow.
Speaker 3: What's your pick for the game?
Speaker 7: I got Cowboys thirty one, Lions twenty four, just from
Speaker 7: when the schedule came out the season started till right
Speaker 7: after both games ended last week. Never wavered on this.
Speaker 7: I just knowing that both of these teams, in the
Speaker 7: way that they play, I just I will be very
Speaker 7: surprised if the Cowboys don't win this game.
Speaker 2: There you go, you're from Detroit. You got a lot
Speaker 2: of Detroit people hitting you up this week.
Speaker 7: I got five or six coming down. But that's also
Speaker 7: because I mean go to the game. But then also
Speaker 7: New Year's Eve hangout.
Speaker 3: So are they gonna come hang out with Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: Cowboys pregame live beforehand.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna try it. I'll see, I'll see. I think
Speaker 7: they're gonna be at Texas Live.
Speaker 2: But we'll try and get them to come over.
Speaker 4: It'll be fun, that'll be fun.
Speaker 3: All Right, we gotta get off the air. John, we'll
Speaker 3: see you on Tuesday after a happy New Year. See
Speaker 3: you next year, Yes, sir, Yeah, there you go for
Speaker 3: Isaiah standback, Chris Beam in the back, John Matchoda, Nick Harras,
Speaker 3: some cow yemens. We'll see you tomorrow with us say
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