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Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 3: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 4: I did it because I was foolish.

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Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast

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Speaker 1: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annick and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: I fucking love him.

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Speaker 3: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 6: Let's hear that birthfa brekers.

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Speaker 7: There are a couple of absolutely self involved bullshit artist.

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Speaker 4: Here're your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 8: Oh great to be back in your lives. Great to

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Speaker 8: be back in your lives. I just took my Red

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Speaker 8: Sox hat off out of fear. Not fear, but out

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Speaker 8: of concern for any sensitive viewers or listeners.

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Speaker 4: Everybody hates the Red Sox.

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Speaker 8: On a Monday morning, after what happened on Sunday night, Monday,

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Speaker 8: October eleven, twenty twenty one. It is episode three twenty

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Speaker 8: of the Anakin Florian podcast. So ken Flow is of

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Speaker 8: a happy disposition today. It's got to be because bitcoin

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Speaker 8: is north of fifty seven thousand. Because I thought you

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Speaker 8: got out of this ibjjf NOG World Championships clean healthy,

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Speaker 8: and that is not in all the cases, Cody tells me.

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Speaker 8: So you must be smiling about bitcoin, then, is that

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Speaker 8: why you're so happy?

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Speaker 9: Oh, that's that's a good thing. That's a good thing.

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Speaker 9: It's good to see your face. First of all, it's great,

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Speaker 9: it's great to do the show. Always fun, you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: I had an interesting weekend.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 9: First of all, it was awesome to be back on

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Speaker 9: the math. I'm just genuinely happy I had a chance

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Speaker 9: to compete. It always makes me better, makes me more

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Speaker 9: focused with my training and what I need to work

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Speaker 9: on and all that sort.

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Speaker 4: So that was that was really cool.

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Speaker 9: But you know, my back injury it comes and goes,

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Speaker 9: and wasn't feeling great prior to the tournament. I was

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Speaker 9: training a lot, maybe a little bit too much, which

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Speaker 9: didn't seem like a lot to me, but I'm forty

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Speaker 9: five years old, so who the fuck knows. But you know,

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Speaker 9: I'm warming up with my one hundred and eighteen pound

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Speaker 9: black belt buddy.

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Speaker 4: That was by design.

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Speaker 9: I didn't want to, you know, have a whole lot

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Speaker 9: of weight prior to the match, and somehow my back

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Speaker 9: still sees up. I'm doing the takedown actually leaning on him,

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Speaker 9: and my back freezes up, Like what the hell is

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Speaker 9: stretch and work whatever I needed to work out.

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Speaker 4: I go back to drilling. I feel it frees up again.

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Speaker 9: I'm kind of stopping it, going every minute to see

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Speaker 9: ended up going to my back, ended up coming up

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Speaker 9: I went to think twelve nothing, whoa, but my back

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Speaker 9: Johnny Faddia at Alliant San Diego. Really good competitor, multiple

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Speaker 9: time world champion, and I was nervous about coming up

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Speaker 9: And you know, it was zero zero at the end

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Speaker 9: I didn't see the match, but it's bullshit. That's how

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Speaker 9: I feel. No, I mean, it was, it was close.

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Speaker 4: My back just got progressively worse.

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Speaker 9: Saturday, I'm going home, back to Charlotte, and the taxi driver,

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Speaker 9: and now I got to go to TSA security. I

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Speaker 9: I just could not take it any longer. I was

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Speaker 9: it was, but I'm glad I did it. And you know,

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Speaker 9: It's still a little hunched over, a little kick in

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Speaker 9: It was still fun to get out there and compete.

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Speaker 9: But I got to figure out this back thing. Anytime

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Speaker 9: I think I figured it out, that comes back to rear,

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Speaker 8: So I remember talking to some of my colleagues who

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Speaker 8: So have you ever had like Cortizon shots or anything

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Speaker 9: Joe Rogan was telling me about a thing called Regennakinde

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Speaker 9: and he said it's helped his shoulder and back and neck,

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Speaker 9: and I'm thinking about doing it, and you know, talking

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Speaker 9: to my wife, it's expensive, obviously, insurance doesn't cover it,

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Speaker 9: I don't know. I don't know if it's one hundred

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Speaker 4: I got to get something figured out.

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Speaker 8: Because has any doctor ever recommended that you get surgery

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Speaker 8: I know only friends and relatives who have had success

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Speaker 8: stories with the surgery, right, And Heidi Dean, who listens

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Speaker 8: to our show, longtime UFC employee, had two majorly invasive

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Speaker 8: But we're glad you're in one piece. We're glad you're

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Speaker 4: Folks. You gotta trust that you were buying those depths. Johnny.

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Speaker 8: We're doing okay, and I'm gonna give it all back

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Speaker 8: at the eye doctor today with my my little girl

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Speaker 4: All right, So a lot to get to today.

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Speaker 8: We want to talk a little bit about the boxing

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Speaker 8: pay per view and the trilogy to be that was

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Speaker 8: Mandalay Bay. When I was covering boxing regularly from I

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Speaker 8: And I tweeted this morning. In my time covering boxing,

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Speaker 8: MMA is far more exciting for me now and delivers

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Speaker 8: more consistently. But when boxing delivers, it captivates in a

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Speaker 8: I just for me overall the sport as a whole,

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Speaker 8: obviously it was a special, special night for boxing over

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Speaker 4: I agree with everything you said.

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Speaker 9: I think that when you have two heavyweight competitors, two

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Speaker 9: you have just the right recipe for all of these things.

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Speaker 9: You had two guys that really didn't like each other,

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Speaker 9: two guys that were extremely dangerous, two massive human beings.

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Speaker 9: I mean, these aren't your typical heavyweight boxers, and you know,

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Speaker 9: and two distinct styles. It really had everything make it

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Speaker 9: an amazing fight. And of course we had this trilogy

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Speaker 9: and the previous fights were amazing as well, and to

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Speaker 4: And it really was a special night for boxing.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 9: Both men showed an insane amount of heart. In the end,

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Speaker 9: it was Titan Fury. I think he showed that he

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Speaker 9: was the better boxer. He was the better boxer heading

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Speaker 9: was a little bit more skillful and better footwork, perhaps

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Speaker 9: better conditioning, and my goodness, what a fight. And congratulations

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Speaker 9: the legend Tyson Fury, and to Wilder as well, who

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think some would argue this is the night

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Speaker 10: I feel like there's more to unpack on the Mackenzie

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Speaker 8: But I think there's a lot of inexperience here, Kenny,

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Speaker 9: But yeah, I think that would be a great choice

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Speaker 4: I don't know what the hell I was doing really

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Speaker 9: So that's going to help getting a proper takedout coach

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Speaker 9: To me, it just seemed like she was really confused.

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Speaker 4: You are the one who can guide you. And I

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Speaker 9: So I think it comes down to mcken's being creative

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Speaker 9: She didn't know how to do that competently, effectively and consistently.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. No, you put it beautifully.

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Speaker 8: And I get so excited for Mackenzie Durham's fights because

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Speaker 4: And she barely started, absolutely, dude, and she looked in

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Speaker 8: I think she'll get there too. Rose nama Unis is

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Speaker 4: The full hit I did too.

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Speaker 4: I think that was nice to see you.

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Speaker 8: We were just talking about Marina Hadriguez and Mackenzie Dern

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Speaker 8: and I wanted to get some technical thoughts on this

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Speaker 8: and then maybe we'll have a little bit of fun

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Speaker 8: later in the Ray Longo minute. But uh, I don't know, man.

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Speaker 8: For me, I just feel like the focus for Mackenzie

474
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Speaker 8: durn after this fight. I'm not a coach, but it

475
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Speaker 8: should be wrestling. It should be offensive wrestling, it should

476
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Speaker 8: be any means by wish to get this fight to

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Speaker 8: the floor, because if she can get it there three

478
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Speaker 8: or four times a fight, I mean certainly, I don't

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Speaker 8: have to tell you guys, all it takes is once.

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Speaker 8: But she's got to figure out a way to get

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Speaker 8: this fight down three or four times on her own,

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Speaker 8: and then I think she could potentially be a world champion,

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Speaker 8: but not until she uh figures out a way to

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Speaker 8: do that.

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Speaker 3: What do you think I agree with that I caught

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Speaker 3: ken these uh last remarks. I do think. Look, I

487
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Speaker 3: think what that girl has is a never quit mentality

488
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Speaker 3: that we saw the other day, which I love. I

489
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Speaker 3: love more. Looking at the mental side, she's she was

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Speaker 3: going for it. You know, she was out gunned in

491
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Speaker 3: the stand up, but it wasn't uh you know, it

492
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Speaker 3: wasn't deterring her, you know what I mean. So I

493
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Speaker 3: like that aspect of it, and you're you're right, you know,

494
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Speaker 3: she has to look she has to get a stand

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Speaker 3: up a little better also so she could get inside

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Speaker 3: and get what she wants. But she was she did

497
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Speaker 3: have her opportunities to take that fight to the floor

498
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Speaker 3: and she did. And so you know, hats off to uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, Marina for doing that good takedown defence. But

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Speaker 3: I think she's on the right track. I mean, I

501
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Speaker 3: still think she's young, and she's been getting good fights

502
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Speaker 3: and she's been growing, and uh yeah, it was it

503
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Speaker 3: was it was a good fight. But I think what

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Speaker 3: I took out of that fight is she's she's not

505
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Speaker 3: going away easy, you know what I mean, She's never

506
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Speaker 3: gonna be in easy out. So she's got still continue

507
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Speaker 3: that progress with the stand up because she's she's willing

508
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Speaker 3: to throw. But you know, her distance is a little off,

509
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Speaker 3: and you know, sometimes when you don't have the experience,

510
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Speaker 3: you get frozen a little bit, right the girl's throwing

511
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Speaker 3: the deab and she's throwing some offense that you have

512
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Speaker 3: to see that shit over and over and over again

513
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Speaker 3: to you know, to be able to get in. So

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Speaker 3: I think it's just a time thing. I think that's

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Speaker 3: what Kenny maybe was alluding to. But I agree with that.

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Speaker 3: I think she's got the components to do it. Now,

517
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Speaker 3: she's just got to get in the gym and you know,

518
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Speaker 3: and do it the right way and again the wrestling

519
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Speaker 3: thing one hundred percent. But you know, look, there's a

520
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Speaker 3: lot of fights you look at. They're easy from the outside.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to be a genius to know what

522
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Speaker 3: the correct you know, but the person's got to be

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Speaker 3: willing to go back in there and do it. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I still know guys that you know, lost fights on

525
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Speaker 3: you know, takedowns, that they're not putting the time in.

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Speaker 3: They just you know, they everybody goes back to what

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Speaker 3: they love to do. You know, she might be on

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Speaker 3: the floor rolling every day because the jiu jitsu is

529
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Speaker 3: awesome and that's what she likes to do, but she

530
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Speaker 3: has to be forced into doing that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm in till the next level is working hard

532
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Speaker 8: and putting in a lot of the right work. But

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Speaker 8: I think you guys both touched on the inexperience. And

534
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Speaker 8: she's five or six years younger than Marina Hadriguez, Butckenzie

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Speaker 8: Dern has time firmly on her side. And you always

536
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Speaker 8: talk hang on, you always talk about, you know, a

537
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Speaker 8: coach and how much time they spend with a pupil.

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Speaker 8: When do you think she and Jason Prilla first started

539
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Speaker 8: working together? Right, let me ask you that.

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Speaker 3: No, I think it was, I don't. I think it

541
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Speaker 3: was pretty recent.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, in September twenty twenty, So they've only had a

543
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Speaker 8: year together. They've had wild success and they've had a

544
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Speaker 8: lot of fights, but I only a year at developmental

545
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Speaker 8: time together.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's done a great job with it.

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Speaker 3: And I like, again, she's young and she she's showing

548
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Speaker 3: that she has the willingness to improve and to take chances,

549
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Speaker 3: and that's what I that's what I like about her.

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Speaker 3: She I do think, I do think she'll be a

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Speaker 3: champ someday.

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Speaker 8: All right, you heard it here first, Cody cut that up.

553
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Speaker 8: When Mackenzie Durham becomes a champion. On the other side,

554
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Speaker 8: Marina Hadriguez, Kenny, I'll start with you on this. I

555
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Speaker 8: guess I don't know if I'm asking you if her

556
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Speaker 8: ceiling is championship as much as I'm asking you how

557
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Speaker 8: you think she stacks up with the rest of these

558
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Speaker 8: elite strawways. You know, I think there are easier matchups

559
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Speaker 8: for lack of a better word, than Mackenzie dern right,

560
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Speaker 8: like I'm not you know, Rose, I don't think is

561
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Speaker 8: one of them, but I do think for Marina, given

562
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Speaker 8: her style, there might be easier matchups.

563
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Speaker 10: Carla might be the most difficult one. How do you

564
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Speaker 10: think flow?

565
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Speaker 8: And then I'll hear from Ray Marina stacks up with

566
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Speaker 8: the likes of Nama Yunas, Jongwae Lee, Yohanna Sparza and Yanshanna, Well,

567
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Speaker 8: it depends, I think striking wise, I give for a shot.

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Speaker 4: You know, there's no question about it.

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Speaker 9: You know, is she at the level of a Yowanna

570
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Speaker 9: quite yet potentially she has a very similar style. I

571
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Speaker 9: think Rose and you know, Yongway Lee are still a

572
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Speaker 9: little bit you know, maybe ahead above perhaps, but you know,

573
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Speaker 9: Matt to be against Sparza, that's always going to be

574
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Speaker 9: a tough one because she's just not grappler. Carla is

575
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Speaker 9: a take that expert. You know exactly what she's going

576
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Speaker 9: to do. It's tough to stop it. And I think

577
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Speaker 9: we saw that she is vulnerable against grappler. She actually

578
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Speaker 9: had one you know choke that was really tight on Mackenzie,

579
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Speaker 9: it seemed. But other than that, positionally, she has a

580
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Speaker 9: lot of work to do. She's got to get her

581
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Speaker 9: wrestling in order. She's got to get her jiu jitsu

582
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Speaker 9: to a higher level, and she's able to do that.

583
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Speaker 9: She has some time to build on that and does

584
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Speaker 9: for weakness. She could be, you know, a champion. There's

585
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Speaker 9: no question about it. She's got the toughness, she has

586
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Speaker 9: the conditioning. She's a true pro I think for strikings

587
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Speaker 9: already at a very high level. And so I think

588
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Speaker 9: she's knocking on that door, no question about it.

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Speaker 8: She passed a really difficult test obviously this weekend ray

590
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Speaker 8: she's like fifteen one and two only loss of course

591
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Speaker 8: to Carla by split decision, a couple of draws in

592
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Speaker 8: the UFC. Not necessarily full of power on the feet.

593
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Speaker 8: But what do you think of Marina and how far

594
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Speaker 8: she can go?

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Speaker 3: No, I think she's a I'm gonna again, I'm gonna

596
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Speaker 3: agree with Kenny uh uh Yeah. I like this fight

597
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Speaker 3: for her because look, when you know somebody can get

598
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Speaker 3: you on the floor and submit, yeah, that causes a hesitation, right,

599
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 3: you might freeze up a little bit.

600
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Speaker 4: But she really did.

601
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Speaker 3: She survived that second round at the end, which I

602
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Speaker 3: actually missed because I was at a wedding, so I

603
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Speaker 3: got right up until like the last twenty seconds of

604
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Speaker 3: that round and I had to go back.

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Speaker 10: And watch the dance at the wedding or No, I

606
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Speaker 10: got a bad hip.

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Speaker 3: My hip's killing me. But I'm good with the slow dances. John,

608
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Speaker 3: So you your wife at the wedding, Yeah, slow dance

609
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Speaker 3: stick my tongue. No, it wasn't good, did it for her? Right?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent? Right, one hundred percent for her?

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Speaker 4: I understand this one.

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Speaker 3: This was like it was out in Montalk, so we

614
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Speaker 3: were at this. I know you don't drink, so I

615
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Speaker 3: had a couple of drinks.

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Speaker 4: You did what you did?

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Speaker 3: You have? I'm a great goose, right good ye?

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Speaker 10: But uh hip Ken flows fucking stretching out his back

619
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Speaker 10: during the y long and then I actually, okay today,

620
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Speaker 10: I'm tomorrow.

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Speaker 8: So did either of you catch the Kenny Florian shout?

622
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Speaker 8: Out on the broadcast this week.

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Speaker 4: I heard it, I heard about it. I missed it.

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Speaker 9: Somebody to my brother, my brother did my brother, Mike, Uh,

625
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Speaker 9: my man, you were comparing it to the shot Shark fight,

626
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Speaker 9: right that that what's happened, And.

627
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Speaker 8: Shout out of shout out to my producer Zach Candido

628
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Speaker 8: for reminding me of it in that moment and then uh,

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Speaker 8: and then we were able to work it in there.

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Speaker 8: But I'm glad that, uh, you know, always a lot of.

631
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Speaker 9: The persona non grata on the on the broadcast that

632
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Speaker 9: my name is still not on a list that I can't.

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Speaker 3: So you're saying John Zach is actually allowed to mention

634
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Speaker 3: his name on the broadcast.

635
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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's pretty good because I'll tell you, yeah, if.

636
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Speaker 3: Zach Candy know would have mentioned Dariel Hawani, everybody would

637
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Speaker 3: have got thrown out.

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Speaker 8: Well, Sean, we were what's up when we were when

639
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Speaker 8: we were doing MMA Live in two thousand and seven,

640
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Speaker 8: eighty nine whatever, Kenny told us a story about the

641
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Speaker 8: Sean Shirk fight that he was tasting rust and iron

642
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Speaker 8: for a long time after the fight.

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Speaker 10: So that was what we said.

644
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Speaker 4: So and I'm glad that Mike Florian heard it.

645
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Speaker 8: Yeah, so, Kenny, you were really impressed with Randy Brown,

646
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Speaker 8: and he obviously was none to thrill with Jared Gooden

647
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Speaker 8: coming in one hundred and seventy four pounds, and you

648
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Speaker 8: know Jared good walking to the scale, you know, last

649
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Speaker 8: guy to weigh in or second to last. Mackenzie Durham

650
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Speaker 8: was last. But you know Jared Gooden not not not

651
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Speaker 8: struggling walking to the scale, you know what I mean.

652
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Speaker 8: So some bad aesthetics, some bad visuals for Randy Brown.

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Speaker 8: The guy comes in at one hundred and seventy four

654
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Speaker 8: pounds and forfeits maybe twenty percent of a twelve thousand

655
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Speaker 8: dollars person.

656
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Speaker 10: You know how it goes.

657
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Speaker 8: But Ken Flow, Randy Brown is a five tool player.

658
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 8: He's got a great frame for this division. He's humble,

659
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Speaker 8: he's coachable, He's doing the right things in terms of

660
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 8: getting different looks in his training. He did get a

661
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Speaker 8: shot against Vicente Luke last year in the top fifteen.

662
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Speaker 8: But I think now he's he's really ready to make

663
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Speaker 8: that wrong.

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Speaker 3: What do you think?

665
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Speaker 9: Ray and I have been telling you watch out for

666
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Speaker 9: Randy Brown. Go tell your friends. He's a damn problem

667
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Speaker 9: at one hundred and seventy pounds. It seems like he's

668
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Speaker 9: come to find his style and know who he is

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Speaker 9: as a fighter.

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Speaker 4: That was evident.

671
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Speaker 9: I think in his last fight he was just comfortable,

672
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 9: he was relaxed, he was loose. To me, that's a

673
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Speaker 9: sign of a fighter that's really coming to his own

674
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Speaker 9: and is aware of himself and what he brings.

675
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Speaker 4: Into the octagon.

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Speaker 9: And I just thought it was an amazing performance against

677
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Speaker 9: a dude in Gooden who is tough as nails.

678
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Speaker 4: And what do you gotta do to knock that guy out?

679
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Speaker 9: The stamp switches, the slipping and ripping, you know, he

680
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 9: was moving extremely well. He fights well going forwards, he

681
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 9: fights well going backwards. His boxing is kicking, you know.

682
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Speaker 9: Dealing with that dislocated toe, all that stuff. Nothing was

683
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Speaker 9: going to deter him, to deter him from betting that

684
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Speaker 9: win that night. That's what it seemed like. It seemed

685
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Speaker 9: like it doesn't matter what you were trying to do

686
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 9: to that kid, he was going to get the win.

687
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Speaker 9: He looked comfortable and yeah, he's a problem dude.

688
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Speaker 3: It was.

689
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Speaker 9: It was a beautiful fight to watch and a credit

690
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Speaker 9: to Gooden as well, who really brought it and was

691
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Speaker 9: not backed down. I think a lot of inferior fighters

692
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Speaker 9: would have gone down a few times during that fight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, he but he look look he looked phenomenal. Uh.

694
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Speaker 3: I think he's always looked phenomenal. But I think you know,

695
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 3: mentally he is coming into himself. The confidence is what

696
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 3: the key was. I don't know if he had the

697
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Speaker 3: confidence because look, I've seen him in the gym a

698
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: couple of years ago. He's huge and he's got great tools. Man,

699
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Speaker 3: he really does. So you know, you could have that,

700
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Speaker 3: not have the belief in yourself. It's not going to

701
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Speaker 3: get you far. But now it looks like he's starting

702
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Speaker 3: to have the belief in himself. And just you're right,

703
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 3: is boxing is his full work. The movement, long, the kicks.

704
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're a new guy having to face him,

705
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 3: that's a fricking nightmare. I mean, he you know, if

706
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 3: when you get chances to have good growing fights, it

707
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 3: makes a big difference, right, So the UFC that I mean,

708
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 3: the matchmakers could kill you or they could help you.

709
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Speaker 3: And this was a great fight for him to grow

710
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Speaker 3: and I think that's going to make him that much

711
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Speaker 3: better and give him give him another shot at at

712
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Speaker 3: at at a top fifteen guy now and see what happens, because.

713
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Speaker 8: I don't want to I don't want to be too

714
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Speaker 8: repetitive because I know a lot of our listeners and

715
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 8: viewers did watch the broadcast. But you know, Randy's dad

716
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 8: has been incarcerated for the last twenty eight years and

717
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Speaker 8: he was able to watch him fight live for the

718
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Speaker 8: first time. Ken Fllo sort of devetails with your point

719
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 8: like he was just not going to be denied on

720
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Speaker 8: this evening. Whether it was going to be his toe

721
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Speaker 8: injury or any other variable getting in the way, it

722
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Speaker 8: was not going to deter him. And I do think

723
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Speaker 8: Jared Gooden will be heard from got to get the

724
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Speaker 8: weight issues intact.

725
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Speaker 4: But what a in on that guy, you know.

726
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Speaker 10: And I do also want to say about Randy Brown.

727
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Speaker 8: You know, his head coach, Nard Debra not unlike Marcio

728
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 8: Malco for Marina Hadriguez doesn't get nearly the credit he deserves.

729
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Speaker 8: But allowing Randy to go to King's MMA and some

730
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Speaker 8: of these other places get some different looks, and Randy

731
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Speaker 8: said he came back just encouraged as to how he

732
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 8: stacks up. You know, when you talk about a lot

733
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Speaker 8: of the elite guys under hafe Ao Cordero's roof that

734
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 8: that obviously welcomed in Randy Brown, and he felt like

735
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Speaker 8: he stacked up pretty well. So I'm excited to see

736
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Speaker 8: how they they match make him moving forward. I do

737
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Speaker 8: want to hit on a few other performances from this

738
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Speaker 8: UFC fight before I get to my conversation with Nevada

739
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Speaker 8: State Athletic Commissioner Jeff Mullen on the Kyle Daukas Kevin

740
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Speaker 8: Hollands situation, Ken Flow, I know you really enjoyed Matthews,

741
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Speaker 8: Nicollaw and Tim Elliott, but I want to talk about

742
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Speaker 8: Maria Agappava. Did anybody see that fight against Sabina Miss

743
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Speaker 8: Maria a gopav A now training exclusively at American Top

744
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 8: Team Sunrise under Roger Crawl. There have been some interesting

745
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Speaker 8: things happening at American Top Team, and there are more

746
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Speaker 8: restrictions in terms of which coaches and athletes can come

747
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Speaker 8: and when they can come. So just two on this

748
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Speaker 8: card right, Charles Rosa, the longtime American Top Team staple,

749
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Speaker 8: and Maria Agoppova are no longer training at Coconut Creek,

750
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Speaker 8: Florida at all, and I don't know if that's because

751
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 8: of anyway. So Roger Crawl is with Maria Agoppova and

752
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Speaker 8: the big focus was was patience and not going crazy,

753
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 8: and it was just a striking clinic and then she

754
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 8: choked he out in a second can flow. That's actually

755
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 8: one you should go back and watch. But since you

756
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Speaker 8: did the Flywaights, you know, I know James Krause, who's

757
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 8: gonna be on our podcast here coming up in a

758
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,479
Speaker 8: few weeks, and we're very excited to have him. James

759
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Speaker 8: Krouse thought Tim Elliott beat Nico Lao.

760
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Speaker 10: I did not. I thought nicolele won the last two rounds. Kenny,

761
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Speaker 10: what did you think of the feature about at Flyway

762
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Speaker 10: Flywaight there?

763
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Speaker 9: You know, we're talking about a lot of guys that

764
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 9: don't get enough credit. I think Team Novu Nal is

765
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Speaker 9: one of those teams that don't get enough credit for

766
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Speaker 9: the level of talent that they've produced. And sounds silly, right,

767
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 9: a team that produced Jose Algo, but still, you know,

768
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Speaker 9: I think they were a team that really stresses mastering

769
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 9: the basics, right, but then there's a sophistication to what

770
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Speaker 9: they do, and I think a lot of these intelligent

771
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 9: fighters that are well schooled, they know how to make

772
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Speaker 9: adjustments mid fight, and that really was the difference to me,

773
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Speaker 9: you know. Unfortunately, I disagree with James Kraus as well.

774
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 9: I thought Tim Elliott showed a lot of heart, he

775
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 9: showed a lot of skill, he was right there with them.

776
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Speaker 4: But to me, he didn't win the fight.

777
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Speaker 9: He won the first round for sure, second it was

778
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Speaker 9: Matthews and Nikolaule that was pulling away, and then the

779
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 9: third again Nicolale won that won that round as well.

780
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Speaker 9: So yeah, I was just really impressed with the maturity

781
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Speaker 9: of Nicolau.

782
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Speaker 3: I was.

783
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Speaker 4: I was impressed with his striking.

784
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Speaker 9: Of course, his takedown game, both offensively and defensively, I

785
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 9: think was the difference here against Tim Elliott, who.

786
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Speaker 4: Was a very confusing guy to fight.

787
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Speaker 9: I mean, not a lot of people could just adjust

788
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Speaker 9: to a weird, awkward style like a Tim Elliott. Tim

789
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 9: Elliott is an excellent fighter who had a lot of

790
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 9: them heading into this fight. But nikolau found a way,

791
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 9: he found his adjustments. It looked like it wasn't going

792
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Speaker 9: to go that way. It looked like he was just

793
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 9: totally confused in that first round. So to switch it

794
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 9: around and come back and do what he did to

795
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Speaker 9: me just really wowed me. And I was just super

796
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 9: impressed by that performance. Great fight by both of them.

797
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the worst part of that fight for

798
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Speaker 3: me because I think Nikola I won. Also, I think

799
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 3: tim Elliott gave away to fight. I think that's the problem.

800
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 3: You could see that tim Elliott was the more talented

801
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 3: guy at spots right. I mean, he definitely is tricky.

802
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: He's been in the game a long time, but it's

803
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 3: almost works against him. He gets too He almost looked

804
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 3: like sparring part in the syndrome, like where there was

805
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: no urgency where the other guy was showing urgency after

806
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 3: the first round to come back. I think tim Elliott

807
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 3: goes back in James Krause and tim Elliott kicks himself

808
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 3: in the head. I think he gave that fight away

809
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 3: just by like almost being too comfortable, you know what

810
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 3: I mean. Like again, it just looked like sparing partner

811
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 3: syndrome to me, wasn't he wasn't going for it where

812
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 3: the other guy stayed focused. He started attacking the liver.

813
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 3: I think he had a couple of good body shots yea.

814
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 3: And he was the guy that looked like he was

815
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 3: pushing forward and went into me, so it was a

816
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 3: very It was a close fight though, but again, the

817
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 3: worst thing for me is it looked like it could

818
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 3: have been an easy fight for Tim Elliott and somehow

819
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 3: that went south. And that's what's got to be addressed,

820
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 3: is that you got to stop fucking around and just

821
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 3: go for it. Because the kid definitely has talent. He's

822
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 3: got good coaching over there. So I think I think

823
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 3: in hindsight, even though they think he wanted, they have

824
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 3: that right because it was a close fight, I think

825
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: they have to concentrate on why wasn't it a blowout

826
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 3: like the first round? That's what I would be looking at.

827
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Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't make some adjustments, but not that

828
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 3: many adjustments. I think the other guy got way too

829
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 3: comfortable and he thought he was winning and that's what

830
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:03,959
Speaker 3: I was good enough him and that's why he lost

831
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 3: the fight to me.

832
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, and James Cross has since posted on Instagram. Not

833
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 8: that he's necessarily, you know, owning his reaction after the fact,

834
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 8: because I think there's a lot of emotion involved. But yeah,

835
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 8: he's certainly using this as an opportunity to grow as

836
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 8: as a head coach. And I will sort of to

837
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Speaker 8: piggyback upon what Kenny was saying about nova Unyao Matthews Nicolau. Right,

838
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 8: He's had two huge layoffs in his career because of

839
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 8: injury and other things. Right, he values developmental time to

840
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 8: such an extent. That's why he had all this time

841
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 8: off after the Manel Cop fight, which by the way,

842
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 8: was another fight in which he made great adjustments and

843
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 8: another close fight that I thought he won. He leaves

844
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 8: no stone unturned when it comes to his training. You know,

845
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 8: he went to Jackson Wink and Albuquerque, New Mexico way

846
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 8: back when when he was just a kid.

847
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 10: You know, Edward o Alonzo's in his corner. He's worked

848
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 10: a lot of Damien and Maya's Jim nova Unyo. Like,

849
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 10: you're absolutely right, Kenny.

850
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Speaker 8: And it's amazing to me how often, and I know

851
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 8: people think I kiss your ass, Kenny, but it's amazing

852
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 8: to me how often you pick up on things when

853
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 8: you're like it's like you're not even there, right, and

854
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 8: you're picking up on all these things that like are

855
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 8: part of my fabric and my preparation, Like your intuition.

856
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 8: If I had half of it, you know, I wouldn't

857
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 8: have to work nearly as hard. You know, it's like

858
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 8: you were there during fight week. Honestly, when you pick

859
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 8: up on things thematically, it's pretty uh incredible.

860
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 9: Again, you know, just just for for Matthews, I think

861
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 9: he's someone to watch in that division. And again, you know,

862
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 9: we talk about it a lot, but one hundred and

863
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 9: thirty five pounds, I mean, they're just it's there are

864
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 9: a bunch of killers. I mean, the talent level at

865
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 9: one hundred and thirty five pounds is just stupid, you know,

866
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 9: so good luck, you know, just cracking the top fifteen,

867
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 9: let alone getting the top five or you know, getting

868
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 9: a title shot.

869
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Speaker 4: It's amazing the level of that weight class these days.

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00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 9: But I do think that Nikolau is going to be

871
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 9: one of those guys who's going to continue to climb

872
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 9: the rankings. Watch out for him. He's very consistent and

873
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 9: I think he'll only get better. And that's one of

874
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 9: those fights where he learned me like that pick up

875
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 9: a lot. Oh no out pain in the ass to

876
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 9: fight not all. Yeah, I think I'm not very happy

877
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 9: to have that fight behind you.

878
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 4: Real quick.

879
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 8: This from at THEE James Krause. I made a huge

880
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 8: coaching error tonight that I'm sure is going to hat

881
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 8: me for some time to come. Going into the third,

882
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,479
Speaker 8: I thought, for one hundred percent sure we took rounds

883
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 8: one and two. Regardless of if that was true or not,

884
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 8: I should have pushed him to work up in the

885
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 8: third and I didn't win. There's a jaw yeah yeah, yeah,

886
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 8: So good stuff from James Krause, who I think every

887
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 8: twenty twenty Ana Can Florian Podcast Aft Puffer Coach of

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00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 8: the Year go ahead, right.

889
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 3: I think I think Kraus is a young guy who's

890
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 3: got a great I mean, he's already done great things

891
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 3: in the sport. The fact that he even posted that,

892
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 3: I think is a great sign that he'll he'll evolve.

893
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 3: And then and you know Elliott again, I think he's

894
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 3: got you know, well like again, he's got all the tools,

895
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 3: he's been around forever. Fought for the title, right, and

896
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 3: he fight Dimitriz Johnson almost had him in trouble at

897
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 3: the beginning, but he's and that was early in the

898
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 3: fight too, So I think he's got to concentrate on

899
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 3: staying focused for three rounds. I think he saw off

900
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 3: a little bit and that's what we saw. But I

901
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 3: think crowds could make that adjustment easy with him.

902
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 8: All right, two other things that I have to get

903
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 8: to with you. And then if you have any local

904
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 8: regional guys that you want to shout out by, all

905
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 8: means wait to do that.

906
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 4: In a minute, we do that.

907
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 3: How would you look?

908
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 4: That's the case?

909
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 3: Love it?

910
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 4: All right?

911
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 8: First thing I have for you today? On a regular Monday.

912
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 8: You know, sometimes I feel like, man, I'm texting Ray,

913
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 8: Hey are you good? Eleven thirty am Eastern. It's like

914
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 8: I've texted you three hundred and fucking nineteen straight mondays. Like,

915
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 8: so a regular Monday for you obviously includes this podcast

916
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 8: for the last six and a half years. Right, So

917
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,439
Speaker 8: when is your first obligation on a Monday that isn't

918
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:36,959
Speaker 8: this show?

919
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 7: Like?

920
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 4: Do you have a lesson at one o'clock?

921
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 3: Like?

922
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 10: When would your day start if you didn't have to

923
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 10: wake up for this show?

924
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 3: Well, one o'clock.

925
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 10: What happens at one.

926
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 3: I start teaching, I do a couple of private lessons,

927
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 3: and I work out.

928
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 8: So what if someone wants a private Monday at nine am?

929
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 8: They can't get that, right because you're sleeping.

930
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 3: That's not happening.

931
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 4: Okay, all right?

932
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 3: They start laughing, when they asked me that, I start giggling.

933
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 4: Well, I've been news. I have good news.

934
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 10: We're pushing the showtime back beginning in November a full

935
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 10: hour so wow.

936
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

937
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 10: So I don't know if it'll affect your commuter. Are

938
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 10: you home right now?

939
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 3: Yes?

940
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 10: Would you like to go slow dance with your wife?

941
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Speaker 4: We could put a no.

942
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 3: Uh that would be a negative.

943
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Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, No, I just I feel I think there's

944
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 8: a lot of husbands out there at weddings, like, you know,

945
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 8: just waiting for that wife to come home and be like,

946
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 8: you know you're gonna dance.

947
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 10: I'm not going to fucking dance on it. Would you

948
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 10: like a divorce.

949
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 3: A something going on for he is? No.

950
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Speaker 8: I think I'm going to a wedding with my wife

951
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 8: for the first time a long time in November of

952
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 8: twenty twenty two. If this wonderful couple decides to invite us,

953
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 8: and I already got to lay the foundation. It's like,

954
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 8: I don't know if there are enough recreational drugs and

955
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 8: whiskey in the world to get me to get up

956
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 8: on the dance floor with you.

957
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 3: You know, I mean you got what about the slow dancing?

958
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 3: You could do that right.

959
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm more of a fast dance guy.

960
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 9: You know, with Johnson wedding. This guy could dance. He's

961
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 9: he's full, he could do well. A lot of I've

962
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 9: seen it.

963
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 3: Wow.

964
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 4: Wow, I can't.

965
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 10: No, I can't.

966
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 4: Moves like cruise. Yeah, all right.

967
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 8: My second thing with you, So my man Jeff Mullen,

968
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 8: former executive director of the Tennessee State Athletic Commission and

969
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 8: now chief assistant to Bob Bennett for the Nevada State

970
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 8: Athletic Commission. So I walked right up to him, uh

971
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 8: seven fifty am Pacific on Friday morning.

972
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 10: I was like, Jeff, I gotta talk to you about that.

973
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 10: You know what the fuck happened with Kyle. No, I

974
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 10: just got some clarity.

975
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 8: You're right, so far as I didn't get a ton

976
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 8: of clarity, Okay, but I basically said to him everything

977
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 8: I said on the podcast.

978
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Speaker 4: And you know, he didn't necessarily have a direct answer.

979
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 8: When I said, Dan Murgliatta could be seen saying just

980
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 8: leave it the way it is, and then he walked back.

981
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 3: But he didn't say, yeah, I'm sorry interrupt you because

982
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 3: everybody's jumping on me with that. But I did that.

983
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 3: I think Dan said I'm I am gonna leave it

984
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 3: the way it is, not like I'm gonna leave it

985
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 3: it is.

986
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 4: Yes, let's leave it the way it is.

987
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 3: Yes.

988
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 8: So, But basically what I was able to find out

989
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 8: because again for me, part of the reason I was

990
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 8: soliciting information is because I had to call the fights

991
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 8: the next day and I wanted to know where the

992
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 8: power resides. So maybe this will fall on deaf ears,

993
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 8: but without question, the power still resides with the referee,

994
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 8: So Dan Murgliotta can override the collective, the review official

995
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 8: that they call the RO. So to me, that's not

996
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 8: necessarily what happened, but I have to take the Commissioner

997
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 8: at his word that that's what happened. You know, Herb

998
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 8: Deane laid out the options and Dan Murgliatta seemingly reversed course.

999
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 3: So I have that for you.

1000
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 8: But the power resides with the referee, and I think

1001
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 8: a more convicted official, and I say that with respect

1002
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 8: to Dan Murgliotta, whom I really like, but I think

1003
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 8: a more convicted official who can be seen audibly saying

1004
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 8: just leave it the way it is doesn't then reverse course.

1005
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 8: He leaves it the way it is, and obviously that's

1006
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 8: not what happened here.

1007
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't I don't even know what

1008
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 3: you did have said because it doesn't clear up anything.

1009
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 10: But but I didn't know I still had the power

1010
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 10: because it looked like the r O had the power.

1011
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 4: That's all the r O. What do you mean, the

1012
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 4: review of review?

1013
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course they don't. They convinced him to change

1014
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 3: that decision. You saw, you actually saw it. They look

1015
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 3: at smoking mirrors, right, the reference he did. He made

1016
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 3: his decision, and then they told him it was the

1017
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 3: wrong decision. Go through this again, like it right.

1018
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 4: No, I I'm just saying that that.

1019
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 8: Now, if that were to play out on a broadcast

1020
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 8: that way, I could then say to the audience, you know,

1021
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 8: I've been told in no uncertain terms that the power

1022
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 8: resides with the referee, but it sure looks to me like.

1023
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 10: It didn't in this instance.

1024
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 8: It seemed like the review officials sort of you know,

1025
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 8: had the persuasive ability ability to real power.

1026
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 3: No, they'll they'll correct that though, you know, they'll turn

1027
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 3: on the microphones, you know, they'll make sure nobody can hear. Right,

1028
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 3: that's how they're gonna correct it. They're not gonna correct it.

1029
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 3: The right way. They're gonna correct it by herb stop

1030
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 3: whispering in his ear. Let's let's see if we could

1031
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 3: keep showing Shelby in his seat so he doesn't get.

1032
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 4: Involved me everybody imagine, yeah, everybody.

1033
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, the guy said, I'm keeping it the

1034
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 3: way it is. Dan, You're wrong. Yeah, okay, I'll change it.

1035
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 3: I mean, that's really what happened. You know, like Dan,

1036
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 3: I think you should do this. Okay, that's what I'll do.

1037
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 3: He didn't. We have a argument. It wasn't like no,

1038
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 3: but look at this that this is the way I

1039
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 3: think it should.

1040
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 10: So, yeah, I'm just a fan. First, Kenny knows that.

1041
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 8: So the Darcas brothers are going to be on the

1042
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 8: Anakin Floor and podcast next week, both Chris and Kyle together,

1043
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 8: just so that I can look Kyle in the eye

1044
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 8: and say.

1045
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 10: Dude, you got fucking hose. Just I just want to

1046
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 10: hear what he's gonna say.

1047
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 8: I know the fans get mad when I say he

1048
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 8: got hosed, and and you know how much I care

1049
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 8: at forty three years of age, but I'm just I

1050
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 8: want to look him in the eye and and hear

1051
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 8: what he has to say about you.

1052
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 7: Know.

1053
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I don't John, I don't know if

1054
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 3: he got hosed because like again, there was that was

1055
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 3: a vicious head accidental headbut but it was enough to

1056
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 3: change the course of that fight. It was unfortunate. So

1057
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 3: I don't know about getting hosed. He got hosed as

1058
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 3: far as the fight continuing and then getting it taken

1059
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 3: away from him. But if Dan would have stopped that

1060
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 3: fight at the head bud and given that guy a

1061
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 3: chance to recover and restarted, who knows what would have happened.

1062
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 3: But he got hosed on the aft. He didn't get

1063
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 3: There wasn't a it was a foul and it was accidental,

1064
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 3: but that was a vicious headbutt. The guy did go out,

1065
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 3: and from that point on, I think anything goes.

1066
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 10: And I'm sure that's not the way Kyle wants to suit.

1067
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 3: I think he does.

1068
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, anyway, did he watch out Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder.

1069
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 3: I missed that fight. I heard it was great. Yeah,

1070
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 3: I missed it.

1071
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 10: I was flying back, but I was able to to

1072
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 10: watch it after the fact. And I don't know, man boxing,

1073
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 10: when it hits man, it's justelievable.

1074
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I agree with that one. Hundred.

1075
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 8: It's uh, it's just a I can't even describe it,

1076
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 8: you know, I really can't describe, Kenny what what it's

1077
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 8: like to to cover a big boxing pay per view

1078
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 8: in Las Vegas and have the fight actually deliver. Now,

1079
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 8: I have a list of fights that I covered, and unfortunately,

1080
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 8: I think towards the end of my career as a

1081
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 8: boxing journalists, most of the fights I covered did not deliver,

1082
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 8: you know.

1083
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 10: I mean I went to some real stinkers.

1084
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 8: But in the in the days of Marco Antonio Barrera

1085
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 8: and Eric Morales and Manny Pacio, those were the fights

1086
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 8: that was it was like, you know, and I'm still

1087
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 8: trying to like find that you know.

1088
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you never. I don't think you're ever going

1089
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 3: to find that depth. But uh, when, like you said,

1090
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 3: when they hit though, those big the heavyweights especially, yeah,

1091
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 3: it's bouj and I mean I saw clips, but I

1092
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 3: didn't see the fight, but seemed like a phenomenal fight

1093
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 3: what everybody wants.

1094
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 10: Ricky hatton December two thousand and seven.

1095
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 3: Wow, nice, that was a good That was a good fight.

1096
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 8: Thirty eight and o versus forty three and no very

1097
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 8: memorable because Burt Sugar told me about. Yeah, Burt Sugar

1098
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 8: told me to bet uh Floyd Mayweather by round ten

1099
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 8: knockout on our mouth piece boxing show. So I went

1100
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 8: and betted uh because I didn't have a document preventing

1101
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 8: me from betting on boxing.

1102
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 10: And we hit the tenth round TKO.

1103
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 3: Wow.

1104
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 8: All right, ray, So how did it go on the

1105
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 8: regional scene last weekend? And who's competing this weekend?

1106
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 3: Well, this weekend we got uh, we got Steve the

1107
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 3: manager Lee, you know, one of my favorite people.

1108
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 10: He's accruing a lot of experience or.

1109
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 3: He's trying to get as much experience. I'm gonna I'm

1110
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 3: gonna forget somebody but Anthony de Lemmy's fight and my

1111
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 3: girl Jenny Nadell is a fight a kickboxing match.

1112
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 10: Oh wow, you got a lot of really happy for

1113
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 10: near and dear to you or competing.

1114
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Yeah, there's a big week in Diana, Carravis

1115
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 3: and I hope, I mean, I hope that's it. I'm

1116
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 3: trying to think of a boy. And the next week

1117
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 3: we hit to the uh Tropic Counta for the Ring

1118
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 3: of Combat. We got a couple of title fights on

1119
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 3: the regional circuit that these guys are one hundred percent

1120
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 3: going to deliver. So I think, uh oh and let

1121
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 3: me I almost got We also have a Nazim h

1122
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 3: Nas fighting on. Uh, he's out in a show in Texas, Houston.

1123
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 3: I believe this weekend, Toso. Uh, people are all over

1124
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 3: the place. There's a lot of fights coming up in

1125
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 3: the next couple of weeks. And uh, it's a good,

1126
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 3: good vibe at the gym. Man, last night was good.

1127
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 3: Gregs Born, great group of guys and uh, everybody's pulling,

1128
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 3: you know, everybody's got each other's backs. Just a good,

1129
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 3: good energy in the gym. And uh yeah, so I'm excited.

1130
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 3: But one thing I want to mention last week too

1131
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 3: is I happened to watch the show with your.

1132
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 10: Brother and balal Oh remember the show.

1133
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 3: I was it was pretty cool your brother. I swear

1134
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 3: to god, I thought it was you. I can't get

1135
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 3: o Denny, but I'll tell you very very very knowledgeable.

1136
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 3: I didn't realize he was into the sport this much.

1137
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 3: He seems like he had a lot of stuff, even

1138
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 3: at his fingertips.

1139
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, Like he was watches.

1140
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 10: He watches more than I do.

1141
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not, it just was it was crazy

1142
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 3: and he had on Giga and Morob. That's why I

1143
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 3: turned it out.

1144
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 8: Well, actually, they was trying to have it be you

1145
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 8: versus Morob, as you well know, but you weren't available

1146
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 8: on that Thursday night. Want a coup that they were

1147
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 8: able to get IgA Chikadse, but they want to have

1148
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 8: you on and they were humbled by your praise obviously.

1149
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 8: And if you don't know, yes, I am a true

1150
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 8: monozygotic twin twin one placent the same DNA.

1151
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 3: Wow.

1152
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 10: So yeah, I think for people like you who see

1153
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 10: and hear him for the first time, unbelievable.

1154
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah. But I was even just impressed with his uh,

1155
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 3: his acumen, with the with with mm a man, it

1156
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 3: was crazy. And the way he speaks is speaks well

1157
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 3: and uh they had that thing was funny with Morob

1158
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 3: because you know, he doesn't really get the English too much.

1159
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 3: So the first fight when they they they say you

1160
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 3: got to say bully, and then they put up nicknames

1161
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 3: and they put raging and Morob's just standing in him like, well,

1162
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 3: this guy's got to be kidding me. But he didn't,

1163
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 3: you know, he didn't really know the rules. And it

1164
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 3: was pretty funny. Those guys were entertaining for sure.

1165
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 8: Well, certainly Giga Chikadse is fluent in English, and I

1166
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 8: told my brother before the show with Morob, he speaks English,

1167
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 8: I think better than he understands it. So less is

1168
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 8: more in terms of that's been my I said, less

1169
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 8: is more in terms of what you give to him.

1170
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 4: Is that not true?

1171
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 3: You know, I think when you're in front of him,

1172
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 3: like when you're having a conversation, when you're with him,

1173
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 3: you know, you could take the time and explain and

1174
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 3: the facial expressions, and I think its out a lot.

1175
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 3: I think when you do, like a phone conversation with him,

1176
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 3: it's totally different. And even something like you know, skypeer Zoom,

1177
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 3: I think is a little different because I mean he's

1178
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 3: but he is way better. Yeah, he one hundred percent

1179
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 3: understands everything when he when he gets it, like you

1180
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like it took him time, and

1181
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 3: it took him one of two times, but he got

1182
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 3: the bully thing. But the first one, yeah, it did

1183
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 3: take a mistake to get it. But then once he

1184
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 3: had it, he was fine. So he he does get it.

1185
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 3: But it's just they're both really good guys and you know,

1186
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 3: just see those guys in the setting like that. I

1187
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 3: thought was great.

1188
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 4: It was great Georgia versus Georgia.

1189
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 8: Well, remember the show is on this very and a

1190
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 8: conplorming podcast YouTube channel live every Thursday night. Ballah Muhammad

1191
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 8: and Jayson Anak will be back this week. They want

1192
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 8: to get both of you guys on, maybe against each other,

1193
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:26,959
Speaker 8: so h got to make that happen.

1194
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 10: Well, right, if you don't have anything else, Yeah, I can.

1195
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 3: Tell you right now I'm losing. I don't think I

1196
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 3: got one, right, I got raging ol. That was about it.

1197
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1198
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 8: I was actually fearful going into my head to head

1199
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 8: matchup with Platinum Mike Perry and I got out to

1200
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 8: a huge lead and then he came roaring back and

1201
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 8: I was.

1202
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 10: Not in a good place, but we were able to

1203
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 10: hold on for the wins. So I want to know

1204
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 10: and remember the show. But thanks for the comm words

1205
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 10: about my bro. You know he works already preps you know,

1206
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 10: which probably.

1207
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 3: Doesn't know whatever you could. You could see that it

1208
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 3: comes through, you could one hundred per see it. Yeah.

1209
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 8: Well, hey, you know this channel has gotten work for

1210
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 8: a lot of people out there, so uh yeah, hey,

1211
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 8: Ray have a uh have a great day and a

1212
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 8: better evening. Huh, thanks for your time as always, and

1213
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 8: uh when beginning.

1214
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 3: Of November, So beginning November, so we still have to.

1215
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 8: Talk to you to make sure that uh you know

1216
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 8: it dovetails with your schedule, you know, because we want

1217
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 8: to make sure that at one pm you're ready for

1218
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 8: the Jenny Niddell's of the world and nas see if

1219
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 8: you can save in the seams. Last name right now,

1220
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:27,959
Speaker 8: give you a hundred bucks.

1221
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 4: Just try. He's your fighter. He's your fighter.

1222
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 3: Everybody's got a nickname in the gym, all right.

1223
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 10: What's Morob's last name? Can you pronounce that?

1224
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 3: No?

1225
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 10: Try again?

1226
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 4: So, but I know I thought he got kicked off.

1227
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's his last name? Smarty pants?

1228
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 10: So with smarty pants, I just have a file on

1229
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 10: my phone. He's your fighter.

1230
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 7: Uh.

1231
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 10: The b's are pronounced as w, so it's dwallish will.

1232
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 3: Wow. That's the way.

1233
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 7: So what.

1234
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 3: Did he pronounced this?

1235
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 10: I don't know. There's no Shelley in there. Hey, you

1236
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 10: think the Rounds would have hired you without your work

1237
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 10: on this podcast? You think I'm Filtered would have hired

1238
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 10: you as the replacement host without the ANA comporting podcaster

1239
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 10: I got no idea.

1240
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 3: I'm just surprised. I'm still here to be honest.

1241
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 4: Hopefully you take.

1242
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 10: Hopefully you take our call next Monday. Thank you, Ray, Cody,

1243
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 10: can you get him out of here?

1244
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 4: He's the best. Yeah, that's oh my god, that's hilarious.

1245
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 9: I knew you were going to call him. I was like,

1246
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 9: you're going to call him out on the last name thing,

1247
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 9: and you finally did. Well, notice how I let it go. Yeah,

1248
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 9: it came around again.

1249
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 10: Well he always says first names, so yeah, yeah, like

1250
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 10: he wants nothing more than to plug the local guys,

1251
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 10: and then he gets anxiety because he doesn't know their names.

1252
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 8: He's so excited when it's like, yeah, Steve Lee. You know,

1253
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 8: everybody can't be Steve Lee. You know how easy that

1254
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 8: is to pronounce? You know, Anthony de Lemmy, you know

1255
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 8: who I can cornered out. Joe, you know, he could

1256
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 8: drop a dilemma on you. You know, but if you're

1257
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 8: not known in the United States, forget.

1258
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 4: About or Italy yeah right, Italy.

1259
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, all right, it's time for the pronunciation of the week,

1260
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 8: as we call our executive producer Cody Merrow, and we

1261
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 8: will soon get to the main event. Challenge, but not

1262
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 8: before we welcome in Cody, fresh from a family wedding

1263
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 8: trip to New Hampshire. We congratulate your sister. You heard

1264
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 8: a little bit quick turn for you after after the travel.

1265
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 7: Oh, I'm good to go. And hey, John, if l's

1266
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 7: a pronounces WS and Ray Longo, Fight Team hasn't had

1267
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 7: any l's, So all right.

1268
00:56:55,960 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 4: There you go, let's go. What is that shirt? It's

1269
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 4: available pod Boys?

1270
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, available in the store.

1271
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 10: With the pet boys.

1272
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 4: Is that a plan on?

1273
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1274
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 4: Does that mean how do I get me?

1275
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1276
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 7: And the purple one looks like Steve Harvey, so I

1277
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 7: can't really use any of the darker ones, but I

1278
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 7: think the Kenny one is Look how attractive.

1279
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 4: That guy is? Wow? Great little eyes. Wow.

1280
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 7: But so anyway, John, I want to take up a

1281
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 7: lot of your time. The fighter you're gonna ask.

1282
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 10: For well, hang on, well, hang on a second, because

1283
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 10: I have a little set up here.

1284
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 4: I mean, I know you have.

1285
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 10: Why because our because our guest has been waiting nine minutes,

1286
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 10: you know, you know?

1287
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 4: All right?

1288
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 8: This man faces Brandon Davis as part of the prelim

1289
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 8: portion this Saturday on ESPN Plus. Good to see Mississipp's

1290
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 8: branded Davis back in the UFC. But the fighter we

1291
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 8: need Cody is a Mongolian bandam waight who has won

1292
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 8: two in a row nicknamed Storm.

1293
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 3: Who is he?

1294
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 4: Dina bat garee? All right, let's hear excuse me, I

1295
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 4: can't roll my rs, So what do you want to know?

1296
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:07,439
Speaker 10: That's a tough one, right, Kenny, you're glad, You're glad

1297
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 10: he I'm fighting in the in the Premier Fighters.

1298
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 4: I'm tapping dude. All right, Cody, it was close.

1299
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 3: Right?

1300
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 8: If I was really to nitpick, you got no. I'll

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Speaker 8: give you the point. I'll give you the point, that's

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Speaker 8: all I'll say. Huh syllabically, your emphasis was perfect on

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00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 8: Donna bot Gary. It's not bat like baseball bat though

1304
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 8: it's bot, so it's more like bot mitzvah than baseball bats.

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00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 10: So it's donnah.

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00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 4: Likely.

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00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 7: But y is gonna be really impressive. I have a

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00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 7: test with you, guys. So I had a pronunciation of

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00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 7: the week at the wedding, to be honest.

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00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 4: So give him the point? Are you giving him the point?

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00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 3: John? Or what?

1312
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 10: I was going to give him the point? I mean

1313
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 10: he's you know, he's five and eleven or whatever. You know,

1314
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 10: would you like to hold back the point?

1315
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 4: Kenny, No, I don't know. I can't hear. I couldn't

1316
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 4: really hear his pronunciation of.

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00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 10: It, Like you're forty five years old, Kenny, I don't know.

1318
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 4: I know, I know it's the ear.

1319
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 10: We are so much closer to fifty than thirty. It's disgusting.

1320
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 10: I was with Paul Felder this weekend. He's like, I can't.

1321
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 8: We were talking about you competing, you know, could president

1322
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 8: Team Florid, and I'm always fucking pushing my agenda and

1323
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 8: Felders like I can't believe Kemp flows forty five.

1324
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 10: And I was like, dude, I'm forty three. And he's like, yeah,

1325
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 10: but Kenny's a fighter.

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00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 3: Fuck you that.

1327
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 4: That's like dog years. You gotta multiply by seven or something.

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00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 7: So I'm twenty eight. My sister just got married, crazy.

1330
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 7: I had to have a pronunciation of the week at

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00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 7: the wedding. So, John, I tried to follow your advice

1332
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 7: practice practice practice, right, So this name is what I

1333
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 7: had to say.

1334
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 4: So I'd like you guys to just take a stab at.

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00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 8: It, all right, So if you are only listening, it

1336
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 8: is spelled O B E R G E F e

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00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 8: L L. So I will say, O Bergafell.

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00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 4: Kenny, I would have said, O Burga fell as well.

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00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's what I said in the fifteen times

1340
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 7: rehearsing it. But then when I got up to say it,

1341
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 7: of course I went A dad, dad, bad bad the

1342
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 7: just and I'm trying to say the rest.

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01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 4: Of it was perfect. But so are you saying we've

1344
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 4: got it right? Oh? Yeah, and then you got that.

1345
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 4: I go to yould bergabol.

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01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 10: For the paid broadcasters on how good a sport Cody

1347
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 10: is for the sake of the show. He just gets

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01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 10: himself right out of the room. No, I love that

1349
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 10: kid like blood of the show, Absolutely love that kid.

1350
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 10: Show would not be by the way too.

1351
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 8: If anybody wants to follow Cody Merrow on social media

1352
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 8: or at Anti Floran pod, honestly, if you appreciate this content,

1353
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 8: that will be free for the rest of your lives

1354
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:35,439
Speaker 8: or the rest of our lives, I should say, because

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01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 8: we're very close to fifty, Cody is the reason this

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01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 8: show is going as strong as we humbly believe it is.

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01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 8: I just want to say that, all right, let's make

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01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 8: some picks. Time for the main events.

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Speaker 1: The main event challenge.

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01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 4: The time is most.

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01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 3: Everything will do win.

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01:00:59,080 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 4: The main event?

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Speaker 1: Chell John and Kenyan podcast.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that got a little bit out of hand, but

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Speaker 8: joining us to make picks today from Fight Freaks dot Co.

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Speaker 8: Nathan Phillips on social media, you can find it at

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Speaker 8: Nate Phillips MMA.

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Speaker 4: Good to have you with us, my man. So where

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01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 4: do you live exactly?

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Speaker 11: I'm in Oklahoma City now. I was in California for

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01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 11: about a year, but just move back. This is where

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Speaker 11: I'm originally from.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 8: So do you watch like all forty one of these

1375
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 8: live events? Like how does how does your MMA viewership?

1376
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 8: I mean, are you like watching seven hours forty one

1377
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 8: Saturdays a year?

1378
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, oh yeah yeah. I don't miss a second.

1380
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 11: And then it gets worse than that. You know, there's

1381
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 11: the press conferences that you know, the media shows, you

1382
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 11: name it. If I can get my hands on it,

1383
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 11: I'm watching it. It's it's pretty bad.

1384
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,479
Speaker 10: You watch the PFL and Bellator and all that stuff.

1385
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't.

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01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 11: I do miss some of those occasionally, but if I've

1387
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 11: got you know, the time, I'm watching.

1388
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 8: Those, dude, right, you know, if you miss some of

1389
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 8: those occasionally, it's fine, you know, as long as ye,

1390
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 8: So three picks for us today. We will begin at

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01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 8: middleweight Julian Marquez minus two twenty five Jordan Wright plus

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01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 8: one eighty five. So Marquez has won two in a

1393
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 8: row with as many bonus since bonuses since he returned

1394
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 8: from a near three year layoff, never been finished as

1395
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 8: a pro. But he draws a guy here who has

1396
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 8: a lot of violent finishes on his resume, the Beverly

1397
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 8: Hills Ninja Jordan Wright, well trained under Anthony Hardonk and

1398
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 8: Vladimir matt Yushenko, the Janitor Nate.

1399
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 4: Who do you have here?

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01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 10: Marquez favored over Jordan Wright.

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01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 11: You know, this fight's a little bit of a sleeper

1402
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 11: to me. I think they could actually have some potential

1403
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 11: for a fight in the night here. When I look

1404
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:42,439
Speaker 11: at it, I see a couple of glaring things. Number One,

1405
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 11: Jordan Wright is the more dynamic striker as far as

1406
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 11: variety of shots he can throw and angles from which

1407
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 11: he can throw them. I think he's going to have

1408
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 11: a considerable speed advantage. Marquez, on the other hand, he

1409
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 11: kind of tends to get lit up early in his

1410
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 11: fights and then come back to win.

1411
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 10: I think this fight will be the same.

1412
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 11: I you know, he's got that granite chin, he's got

1413
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 11: good cardio considering all the muscle he's carrying around, and

1414
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 11: as base as it sounds, I think he's just going

1415
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 11: to out tough Jordan Wright. So I know you don't

1416
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 11: actually need a method on this one, but just as

1417
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 11: kind of a bonus, I actually see Marquez getting a

1418
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 11: submission late in this fight.

1419
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 4: How about that.

1420
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 8: I like this Nate Phillips cat. Right, you can tell

1421
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 8: he's not nervous at all. Dulcet tones, So yeah, Kenny,

1422
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 8: I mean, Jordan Wright is a really interesting cat because

1423
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 8: some of these finishes are just some of the more

1424
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 8: violent finishes that I've seen in that seat right, the

1425
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 8: way these bodies just cripple, and he's such a humble kid.

1426
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 8: It's sort of like a weird thing. How he just

1427
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 8: destroys these guys. Good test for him, I think at

1428
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 8: this stage of his career against Julian Marquez. What do

1429
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 8: you think about this main card opener here at one

1430
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 8: hundred and eighty five pounds.

1431
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think Nate did a great breakdown here. I

1432
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 9: think Jordan Wright is definitely the more dynamic striker. I

1433
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 9: think there's a lot of tools that he uses out

1434
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 9: there that can be very tricky, kind of has that

1435
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 9: karate style, bounces really well in and out, but it

1436
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 9: seems like it seems to fade a little bit over time,

1437
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 9: and that's when Julian Marcus gets stronger as a fighter.

1438
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 4: And I couldn't agree more. I do think that Julian

1439
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 4: is a bit of a slow starter.

1440
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 9: He's got to be careful early on, because again, Jordan Wright,

1441
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 9: I think, has more tools on the feet, He is

1442
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 9: more dynamic. Got to watch out for that kick that

1443
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 9: comes up very quickly. But I think once Julian finds

1444
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 9: his timing and rhythm out there, I think Julian can

1445
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 9: make it more of a scrap. And when he does that,

1446
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 9: I think that the fight will favor him. If he

1447
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 9: can get on the inside, if he can wrestle Jordan

1448
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 9: down the down of the mat a little bit, that's

1449
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 9: gonna be a huge advantage for him as well. So

1450
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 9: I think if you can make it a grinding fight,

1451
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 9: if you can make it a scrap, get on the inside,

1452
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 9: I like Julian Marcus to win as well.

1453
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 8: And another interesting layer. We talked a lot about James

1454
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,479
Speaker 8: Krafts in the corner of tim Elliott. Opportunity for James

1455
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 8: to get right back on the horse this weekend in

1456
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 8: the corner of Lee Marquez with with that sort of

1457
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 8: new founder.

1458
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 4: Experience, James might even take a fight.

1459
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 8: Who knows, Yeah, you never know, all right at heavyweight,

1460
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 8: we will take a round and a method of victory.

1461
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 10: Nate, it's a pick him.

1462
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 8: According to DraftKings sportsbook right now, Andrea Orolovski minus won ten.

1463
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 8: Carlos Felipe minus won ten. Thirty six UFC appearance for

1464
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 8: the forty two year old Andrea oro Loovsky debuted at

1465
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 8: UFC twenty eight in November of two thousand. Arlovski has

1466
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 8: not finished anyone since twenty fifteen, but he has won

1467
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 8: three of four Nate, and now he draws Brazil's Carlos Felipe.

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Speaker 4: What do you think about this one?

1469
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 11: I mean well, first of all, who doesn't love Andrea Rolovski.

1471
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 11: You remember when he had the long hair and the

1472
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 11: mouthpiece with the fans. I mean, what a stud. And

1473
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 11: he's still going. He's even surging now, won three of

1474
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 11: his last four. The win out of those that really

1475
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 11: got my attention was that Tanner Boser win. I'll admit

1476
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 11: I didn't see that coming. I didn't lose money on that,

1477
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 11: but yeah, small price to pay for the pitbull to

1478
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 11: surge late and then Felippe. On the other hand, he's

1479
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 11: won three in a row, and anybody who does that

1480
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 11: is worthy of our attention. He hadn't really shown himself

1481
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 11: to be a knockout artist thus far in the USC,

1482
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 11: and I don't think he's going to knock out Arlovsky.

1483
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 11: I think that, you know, Arlovsky's more defensively sound and

1484
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 11: better footwork these days. I actually kind of see him

1485
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 11: just out pointing Felipe here and getting enough rounds to

1486
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 11: win the decision.

1487
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 3: So give me Arlovsky by decision.

1488
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 8: Arlovsky by decision for Nate Phillips. Yeah, it's an interesting

1489
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 8: case with Felipe. Someone suggested maybe a showcase spot here

1490
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 8: by the promotion to see if he can get a

1491
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 8: scalp like Arlovsky on his resume. Few things on Arlobsky

1492
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 8: just for the listenership I found interesting in my research today.

1493
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 8: So when he got knocked out by Sergei Kartanov in

1494
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 8: twenty eleven, and Kenny remembers this, well, four straight losses,

1495
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 8: dude was left for debt, right like everybody said his

1496
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 8: career was over, his chin was gone, and that was

1497
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 8: ten years ago. So then he has a stretch of

1498
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 8: twelve fights in which he only suffers one loss, and

1499
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 8: part of that was when he came back to the UFC.

1500
01:06:54,640 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 8: Then January of twenty sixteen fights Stepe loses, and that

1501
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 8: begins a stretch in which he loses five straight fights

1502
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 8: over eighteen months from January of twenty sixteen to the

1503
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 8: middle of twenty seventy. Left for dead again, and he's

1504
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 8: fought twelve more times since. So ount this guy out

1505
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 8: at your own peril. You know a lot of us

1506
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 8: Stott Tanner Boser was gonna beat him. Go to the

1507
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 8: window and bet against Andrea Arolovsky at your own peril.

1508
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 8: What are your thoughts on him here against Felipe Flow?

1509
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 9: This is an interesting fight, you know, for for Carlos

1510
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 9: Felipe this is particularly a big fight for him.

1511
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 4: He asked for this fight.

1512
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 9: He called out Andrea Rolowski after his last fight, felt

1513
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 9: it would be a good matchup for him. This is

1514
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 9: gonna be a tough one, I think Andre sometimes though

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Speaker 9: doesn't throw enough volume. Carlos isn't this big knockout artist.

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Speaker 9: Can he knock out Andre potentially, but I think more

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Speaker 9: than anything else, the way that he wins this fight

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01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 9: is with volume. He's got to stay active, he's got

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01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 9: to stay busy, he's got to win it round by round,

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Speaker 9: and I think that's where he can win this fight.

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01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 9: He's the younger fighter, he's a little bit busier my opinion,

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Speaker 9: and I just think he just needs to outpoint him.

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Speaker 9: And I'll go with Carlos Felippe here. I definitely could

1524
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 9: see it going the way of Barlowski. It's a very

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01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 9: close fight. Experience is definitely going to be an advantage

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Speaker 9: for Arloski here, of course, but let's go with the

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Speaker 9: younger Carlos Philippe.

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Speaker 10: Decision decision, Yes, Carlos Felipe for ken Flow.

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Speaker 8: Nice to see the disagreement there, and that brings us

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Speaker 8: to our main event at featherweight aspen Lad minus one

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01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 8: fifty Norma Dumont plus one thirty will need the round

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01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:33,719
Speaker 8: of the method of victory.

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Speaker 10: So Lad is nine and one. She has not fought

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Speaker 10: since twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 8: As many of you know, she was to compete in

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01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 8: a main event about nine days ago, was not able

1537
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 8: to make weight. That was at bantam weight. This one

1538
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 8: is at featherweight, so an opportunity of course for her

1539
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 8: to spin that narrative right around against Norma Dumont, who

1540
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 8: want to split decision over Felicia Spencer earlier this year

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01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 8: that earned her this main event against Holly Holm. Of

1542
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 8: course Holme is out and Led is in Nathan Phillips.

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Speaker 8: Who do you have in the main event and how

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Speaker 8: do they get it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: You know, this made event's been through the ringer. Originally

1547
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Speaker 11: we even had Misha Tate as the headliner, and then

1548
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 11: it was Holly Holm, and now it's Aspen Lads stepping in.

1549
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:13,799
Speaker 11: Like you said, after missing weight against Macy, She's jumping

1550
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Speaker 11: up a weight classes and unfortunately for her, she's getting

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01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 11: a good sized featherweight. You know, Norman Dumont could even

1552
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 11: be in the one fifties on fight night, and we

1553
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 11: know Aspen's bread and butter is getting that take down

1554
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 11: and that vicious ground and pound. Unfortunately, though, I think

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01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 11: that Norma is gonna be tougher to take down than

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Speaker 11: what Aspen is used to. Also, Norma, I think she's

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Speaker 11: the better striker and she can crack like she could

1558
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 11: knock min out, you know, and we've seen Aspen. She

1559
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 11: can be smoked by a single shot. We saw Durandom

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Speaker 11: do that, So normally I wouldn't pick against Aspen Lad,

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Speaker 11: but with the two year layoff, the jump up, the

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01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 11: late notice opponent, I'm gonna take Dumont here, and I'm

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01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 11: actually gonna take her by knockout in round number three.

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Speaker 10: Man, you're doing good, Nate. I like the way you

1565
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 10: can't ken flow.

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Speaker 8: What do you think about Ladd and Dumont's short price

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01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 8: on Lad here minus one to fifty Dumont plus one thirty.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, listen, I was hoping I'd be able to pick

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01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 9: up here on the underdog Norma Dumont, but Nate is

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01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 9: onto it.

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Speaker 4: I agree.

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Speaker 9: I think Dumont is the better striker, you know. I

1573
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 9: think that she moves pretty well. I think she's strong

1574
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 9: for the weight class. I don't think she's gonna be

1575
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 9: an easy takedown for Aspen. If she does get taken down,

1576
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 9: I think she can defend herself long enough to kind

1577
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 9: of get back to her feet or survive the round.

1578
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Speaker 4: And I don't know.

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Speaker 9: I think Aspin's been dealing with a whole lot lately

1580
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 9: as well, so this is a tough fight. I think

1581
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 9: both women are capable of getting it getting it done.

1582
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 9: But I really like the potential of Norma Dumont. I

1583
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 9: think she's someone to watch in this division. I think

1584
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 9: she's really tough. I think she's underrated, doesn't quite have

1585
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:59,560
Speaker 9: the experience. But seeing what I've seen from her, she

1586
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 9: seems mature and uh, and she's pretty good everywhere, man,

1587
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 9: So I think she's a solid fighter.

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01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 3: Uh.

1589
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 4: I like her to win as well. I think it

1590
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 4: probably will take her a little bit of.

1591
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:16,759
Speaker 9: Time, uh to get the win or she wins by decision,

1592
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 9: but let's go with fourth round TK.

1593
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 8: All right, fourth round t KO for Norman Dumont and uh,

1594
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 8: she'd better be a fighter to keep an eye on

1595
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 8: in that division because there's only I think three of

1596
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 8: them chasing the featherweight champion. Uh at Nate Phillips MMA

1597
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Speaker 8: on social media and you can find his work at

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Speaker 8: Fightfreaks dot Co. Nate Phillips, great job, my man. We

1599
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Speaker 8: will talk to you soon. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Thank you guys so much.

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Speaker 4: Kenny.

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Speaker 3: I fucking love you.

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Speaker 11: You finished fights, You do everything possible to win. If

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Speaker 11: you're an icon, you're the best in the biz.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thanks so much, guys.

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Speaker 4: This was great.

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Speaker 10: Appreciate you. Thank you at John Nate Phillips m m A.

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Speaker 8: And probably a good time to tell you there are

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Speaker 8: some changes coming to the main event challenge. Nate could

1610
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Speaker 8: end up being one of the last handicappers that that

1611
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Speaker 8: we end up using in the mix. We're going to

1612
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Speaker 8: be leaning on some some different fighters and athletes and

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Speaker 8: Ashley Evan Smith, for example, is going to be coming

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Speaker 8: automate pix against Ken Flow next week and more details

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Speaker 8: Ken Flow's YouTube channel is well it should be called

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Speaker 8: flow to, but it's on YouTube for all his jiu

1619
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Speaker 8: jitsu stuff. Don't forget remember the show Jason Anak Blam

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Speaker 8: Muhammad Lib this Thursday on this very channel. Last thing

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Speaker 8: before we go, I mentioned the Florian shirt fight. Obviously

1622
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Speaker 8: during the fight between Damon Jackson and Charles Rosa. Don't

1623
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Speaker 8: go back and watch it for the Ken Flow verbal mention,

1624
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Speaker 8: but you need to go back and watch it to

1625
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Speaker 8: see how many pints of blood Damon Jackson donated to

1626
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Speaker 8: the canvas.

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Speaker 10: See when I'm watching football and there's like a knee injury.

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Speaker 8: Or a leg injury. I can't watch that stuff, right.

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Speaker 8: I have a hard time stomaching it. I love the

1630
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Speaker 8: blood in MMA.

1631
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Speaker 4: I just love it.

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Speaker 10: I can't, I can't help it.

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Speaker 4: I just love it.

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Speaker 10: I get so excited when there's so much blood on

1635
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Speaker 10: the canvas, like first fight of the night. So do

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Speaker 10: yourself a favor and just watch.

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Speaker 8: I mean literally, if you if you put a pint

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Speaker 8: glass below Damon Jackson's cop, who would have filled out?

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Speaker 10: Yeah in a black all right?

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Speaker 8: So next week I mentioned Ashley Evan Smith, we'll talk

1641
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Speaker 8: to her about her potential return. We will have Chris

1642
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Speaker 8: and Kyle Daccas on the show as well, and also

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Speaker 8: some picks coming up for the October twenty third middleweight

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Speaker 8: main event big fight between Paolo Costa and Marvin Bettori.

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Speaker 4: Our executive producer is Cody Merrow.

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Speaker 8: With that for Ken Flow, John and thank you all

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