1 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Therapy for Black Girls Podcast, a weekly 2 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: conversation about mental health, personal development, and all the small 3 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: decisions we can make to become the best possible versions 4 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: of ourselves. I'm your host, Dr Joy Hard and Bradford, 5 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: a licensed psychologist in Atlanta, Georgia. For more information or 6 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: to find a therapist in your area, visit our website 7 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: at Therapy for Black Girls dot com. While I hope 8 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: you love listening to and learning from the podcast, it 9 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: is not meant to be a substitute for relationship with 10 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: a licensed mental health professional. Hey, y'all, thanks so much 11 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: for joining me for session of the Therapy for Black 12 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: Girls Podcast. Today. I have a very special treat that 13 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: is in some ways a continuation of our episode last week, 14 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 1: all about Queen Sugar. I had a chance this week 15 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: to chat with Miss Tina Lifford, who portrays the character 16 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: of Aumbai on the show, and y'all, she is incredible. 17 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: I want to tell you all about it, but first 18 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: let's show some love to our sponsor, introducing the all 19 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: new and totally reimagined Ford Explorer. 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We also chatted about giving ourselves 29 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: space and time to tap into our deepest desires, and 30 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: she shared more about the internal work that she's done 31 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: to allow her to really connect with on by a story. 32 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: And if you are a fan of Queen Sugar and 33 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: you saw last week's episode, then you know she had 34 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: an incredible performance, an incredible peak to her storyline, So 35 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: really talking about her connection was important to me. She 36 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: has an amazing event coming up this weekend here in Atlanta, 37 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: and she shared a special discount code just for you 38 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: at the end, so don't miss out on that. Here's 39 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: our conversation. So I am joined today by the amazing 40 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: Tina Lifford, who you all know if you're Queen Sugar 41 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: fans like I, am places the incredible viye on Queen Sugar. 42 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: So thank you so much for joining us to day, 43 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: Miss Lifford. Oh, I am so happy to be here. 44 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for making yourself available for this 45 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: wonderful conversation. Yes, I am so thrilled. Um. So, you know, 46 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: just in kind of doing the research and finding out 47 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 1: more that you are already talking in real life about 48 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: a lot of the same kinds of things we have 49 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: been talking about here therapy for black girls. So I 50 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: want to dig in a little bit and kind of 51 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: back up and just here from you, how would you 52 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: describe the evolution that you have seen in aunt BIA's 53 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: character kind of throughout the seasons that we've seen on 54 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: Clean Sugar. Yeah, you know, I would. I would say 55 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: that Vy is in a season of flowering, you know, opening, 56 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: And when I say season, I'm assuming that this is 57 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: going to be what her path for the rest of 58 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: her life. Right, And so when we first met by, 59 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: she came in a bit more situated in the surface 60 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: part of her life. You know, definitely you could tell 61 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: that whigs and and looking good and feeling sexual was 62 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: definitely part of her makeup. But then we began to 63 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: see that in addition to that outer presentation, there is 64 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: this soulful woman in there, you know, And this soulful 65 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: woman cares, and in her caring, she cares so much 66 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: and has such a sense of I don't just I 67 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: don't think that she considers her family just a responsibility. 68 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: Her family is more than a responsibility to her. Her 69 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: family is her life. Her family is love. Her family 70 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: is the extension of her love for her brother, you know. 71 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: And so she comes to the table wanting to honor 72 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: her brother, wanting to honor these really wonderful young people 73 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: in front of her, who clearly have great potential but 74 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: also need, you know, to get some stuff together. And 75 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: she doesn't come thinking about herself. But I think that 76 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: that moment in the high Yellow, when her successful girlfriends 77 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: are meeting or seeing her for the first time in 78 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: years and assuming that the high Yellow belongs to By, 79 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: and By has to admit that she's, you know, a worker. 80 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: She can't even really say she's the general manager. She's 81 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: just like d waitress sort of. You don't see it 82 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: on her face all that much, but inside that was 83 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: a wake up call because she knows that she's more 84 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: than that. Mm hmmm, and there was something in that 85 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: moment that sort of helped turn the trajectory of her 86 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: life into a little bit more of an inward glance. 87 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: I love that you were able to kind of pinpoint 88 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: like the point at which the character's life took a 89 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: turn right, because I do think, and we talked about 90 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: this in last week's podcast episode, it does feel like 91 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: there has been much more of an internal focus from 92 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 1: by this season and kind of making sure that she 93 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: is setting boundaries and really doing a better job of 94 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: taking care herself. And so I know that that's a 95 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: struggle that women outside of these characters have as well. 96 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: So can you speak to that a little bit about 97 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: what that might look like? Yeah, well, um, now when 98 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: you saying what that might look like, let let me 99 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: understand what you mean by that. What like, what kind 100 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: of strategies maybe could you offer for women in real 101 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: life to kind of do more that taking care of 102 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: themselves and kind of an internal focus so that they 103 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: are taking care of themselves so they can continue taking 104 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: care of family and loved one. So I'm going to 105 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: tell you that Tina Lifford has this this belief and 106 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: you know, for all of your listeners here here's something 107 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: that I feel is undeniable. If in fact, we really 108 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: begin to look at our lives and life in general 109 00:07:55,560 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: from a more observers perspective, we will see a lot 110 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: of stuff that we haven't seen because our focus has 111 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: been so you know, in the woods of it all. 112 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: And one of the things that I actually write a 113 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: nice riff about this in my play The Circle. One 114 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: of the things that I noticed is that when a 115 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: woman hits like thirty seven, thirty eight, there's a change, 116 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: It begins to happen, and I language it like this 117 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: that somewhere around that thirty eight, getting close to forty 118 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: uh mark, we realize that all the things that we 119 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: have placed all of this attention on as a way 120 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: of getting to happiness, the man, the job, the money, 121 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: the kids, the bank account, the cars, all of a 122 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 1: sudden there is still something missing. And you're like, what 123 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: is that? And you realize that all of those external 124 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: things don't address the greatest yearning, and that yearning is 125 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: to be connected to yourself, and that wake up. It's 126 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: a hard one because you've given forty years to doing 127 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: it the way you thought you were supposed to do it, 128 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: and now you've got it all and something is still missing, 129 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: and that missing becomes even greater because you've got all 130 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: the things that you thought we're going to fill it. 131 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 1: So you're a little confused, your little piste off, your 132 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 1: little a lot of things, and then that forces you 133 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: to begin to at least have the big question mark 134 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: of Okay, so what is this? And that's a very 135 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: important place to be in the what is this? Because 136 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: the what is this opens us UH to now being 137 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: available to answers and discoveries outside of our UH mindset 138 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: and our former ideas about ourselves in life. So that 139 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: will opening becomes huge. And then when you cross over fifty, 140 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: it's like, now you know that time is no longer 141 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: this it'scountable, time is accountable, and time is running out, 142 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: and now you really know that you want to get 143 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: some of you done in this lifetime. And so I 144 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: feel that the one of the greatest moments in our 145 00:10:55,080 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: lives is that moment of discomfort where we say I 146 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: got it all and I still ah Acknowledging that place 147 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: is huge because it takes us on the journey to 148 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: that inward journey that most of us haven't known about. 149 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: I mean, up until now, you know the position and 150 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:31,359 Speaker 1: the mindset around therapy, and so many particularly our community 151 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: and communities of of color, or I can't speak to 152 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: other communities of color, but where African Americans are concerned, 153 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: you know what what our taboos have been around this, 154 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: you know. So getting to that is a really good thing. 155 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: And I want to say that to listeners. Being in 156 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: that place of frustration and wanting more and not understanding 157 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: how everything that you have is not enough, that's a 158 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: good thing. And then the next the next step is 159 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: the next you know, sort of powerful uha is to 160 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: actually want something that hasn't anything to do with the 161 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: outside the moment we start wanting something from the inside. Okay, 162 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 1: So I want freedom from from this way in which 163 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: I always react, you know, or I want I want 164 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: just a little more peace in my life, dog on it, 165 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: or I want I want to just take a deep breath. 166 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: Having a desire that is connected to the self and 167 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: the awakening of the self, whether you label it that 168 00:12:53,640 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 1: or not, is a huge first step because then of 169 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: and I don't have another word for it. If you 170 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: have a term, please share it. But then that mystical 171 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: aspect of life kicks in. You know, there is a 172 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: connection between our desires and what manifests in our lives. 173 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: There is an undeniable connection between our thoughts and our experiences, 174 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: and we just haven't been thinking about the inward journey. 175 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: So the moment we go up I want more, that 176 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: opens up for ignits that mystical relationship, and we begin 177 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: to meet people turned to podcasts like Therapy for Black Girls, 178 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: and we we turn on the TV and we see 179 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: something that begins to be part of that journey that 180 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: is going to help us quiet that and let us 181 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: be present to that internal want that we've never even 182 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: given voice or focus too. Yeah, And I think that 183 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: there is a certain freedom that we only get to 184 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: that kind of a place when we really allow ourselves 185 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: the space and the time and the energy to do 186 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: some of that that you're talking about, right, Because when 187 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: you're just going, going, going, you don't ever recognize, maybe 188 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: sometimes until it's too late, that there's this whole piece 189 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: of disconnection with yourself and your true desires that might 190 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: be missing well, or, as in the case of our VI, 191 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: VI didn't some and take that inward glance right, It 192 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: was that need for the inner glance was triggered and 193 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: sometimes that's how it happens, you know, we we I 194 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: think Oprah said, once you know that, first it comes 195 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: as a whisper, then it comes, you know, as a 196 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: loud voice, and next it's a brick up aside the head, right. 197 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: And I think un I got there, uh with the 198 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: brick strategy. She she did. She she had things in place, 199 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: you know, her ducks were in a row. And that's 200 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: why she, you know, keeps her eye on everyone in 201 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: the family as as closely as she does because as 202 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: long as everything that she loved out there was in place, 203 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: she felt that she had a handle on her life. 204 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: But that brick was Noah's book, right, Yes, and that 205 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: triggered the at inward glance. And I don't even really 206 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: think that v has yet to truly embark upon the 207 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: inward glance. I think that the brick and her really 208 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: understanding that she had to confront Jimmie Dale, I think 209 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: that that is going to open the door for her 210 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: to be a little more introspective from this point forward. Okay, 211 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: So it's interesting that you just feel like she's just 212 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: getting there, because it felt like she had been getting 213 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: there all season, right, It felt like she had been 214 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: asking for more what she needed in terms of space. 215 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: You know, she created this very firm boundary with Novah 216 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: saying you really hurt me and I just don't feel 217 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: like I can kind of be in this with you anymore. 218 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: But you're feeling like we have so much more to 219 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: see from buy now that this has happened. Well, well, 220 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's tricky because Tina Lifford and By 221 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 1: are two different entities. And what's fascinating is Vibe really 222 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: does live her own life. I Mean, there are times 223 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: when Tina Lifford, the actress, you know, walks on the 224 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: set with an idea of how the scene is going 225 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: to go, and By is like, oh, no, that's not it, 226 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: that's not how I feel, that's not where I'm going, right, 227 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: And then Vibe sort of takes over and I find myself, 228 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 1: as By, in a much more authentic place for By, 229 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, and Tina Lifford has done a lot of 230 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: work on herself, a lot of work on herself. So 231 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: for me, uh, just based upon what you said in 232 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: the ways in which I feel that Jimmy Dell triggered 233 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: so much internal confusion that Vibe was forced to just 234 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: try she needed all of her energy to just be 235 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: present to the storm that was happening inside of her. 236 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: I don't. And when I say present to it, she 237 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: doesn't know how to figure this out. You know, she didn't. 238 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 1: She didn't have that experience and then go to you. 239 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: You know, she didn't. She there's a storm inside and 240 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: she doesn't know what to do and it is. What 241 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: she does know is that it has required all of 242 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: her resources because otherwise she's gonna go crazy. Yeah, And 243 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: it feels like even if we back up a bit, 244 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: like we're describing Jimmy dale As in the book as 245 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: the brick up side in the head, but it feels 246 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: like maybe the loud voice was even land season with 247 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: the loopus, right, So that was the beginning of her 248 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: having to relinquish some of all of the controls she 249 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: thought she had and kind of like surrender to this 250 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: new process. That's a very good point. That's a very 251 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: good point. But I feel like there's a difference between 252 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: a conscious you know, commitment and interested and interests in 253 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: the internal journey versus literally just trying to manage the 254 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: overwhelmed and doing It's almost like having your skin be 255 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: so sensitive that you just you can't have anybody touch you. Well, 256 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: her distance from Needing, distance from Hollywood and Nova. I 257 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: don't know that it was because she was taking care 258 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: of herself. She just didn't She can't be touched right 259 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: this moment because it's so big, m and you know, 260 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: I don't write it. So we'll see, we'll see where 261 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: the writers are gonna go with it. But I I 262 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: feel that she took a breath on those steps, right, 263 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: and then she took another breath with Nova. She took 264 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:48,479 Speaker 1: three breaths, breaths, deep breaths between standing in front of 265 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: Jimmie Dale and then on the porch at the end 266 00:20:53,200 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: with Nova, right, she took three breaths. I don't know. 267 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: I think that those breaths are at the beginning and 268 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: that she will be able to invite more into her 269 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: life through those breaths. And that's more awareness. I mean, 270 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: you know, Vye has some strong lines that have been drawn. 271 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: You know, she puts people in boxes very quickly. Well, 272 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: she certainly hasn't tackled any of that stuff right, right, 273 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: So I think that in order for Bye to flower 274 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: and become um and ever more full iteration of herself, 275 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: the us of Jimmie Dale has been popped. That boil 276 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: has been popped, It is drained, it is humoring, and 277 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: now there are the habits that came along with all 278 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: of the managing around that pain that will have to 279 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: be sort of unwrappled. Yeah. Yeah, and we definitely, you know, 280 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: we've been talking about this scene from last week's episode 281 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: with by on bias confrontation of Jimmy Dale at his 282 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: house and that kind of thing, and it just felt 283 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: like such a powerful scene, Like that whole thing. I 284 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: think you were just phenomenal throughout that episode, but it 285 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: did make me curious about like the work that you 286 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: have to do, as Tinma Lifford to get prepared to 287 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: kind of pull off such I think, an emotionally evoking 288 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: kind of experience like that. Can you talk a little 289 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 1: bit about your process there? I can't. I can't. I 290 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: would say that my whole interest in what I have 291 00:22:54,320 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: labeled inter fitness, right um my and inner fitness comes 292 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: from three three main sources. You know. I I say 293 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: that we all have anxiety fear, you know, her drama 294 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: trauma that's unresolved, and I had in the fifth grade 295 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: um a debilitating experience with stage fright and it created 296 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: inside of me a pattern that literally, when the phone 297 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: ring ring and and there was an audition, I would 298 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: go into a panic attack. You know. Um, I would 299 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: have great anxiety to the point that my hands would 300 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: shake trying to put my makeup on. And the blessing 301 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: is that there, and there are lots of blessings in 302 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: this experience. For me, the blessing is that I I 303 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 1: was reared with a true spiritual footing, and so that 304 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: spiritual footing made me no, not just believe, but no, 305 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: that I was not here to suffer, that we are 306 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: not here to suffer, that suffering comes with living, but 307 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: that our purpose was bigger than that. And because of that, 308 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: I knew enough to want to be free of this 309 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: thing that was a very habituated pattern at this point, 310 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: and I set out to be free. And freedom has 311 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: been a journey. And in that journey I had to 312 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: look at and discover all kinds of things and I 313 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: had to you know, I have always said that I'm 314 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 1: not a crier. I don't really cry, right, But in 315 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: the journey to freedom, I learned to cry, and I 316 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: learned to be present with inner confusion and pain. And 317 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: what I discovered in that was two really important things, 318 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: along with a bunch of other stuff. I learned that 319 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: being able to be present to my own discomfort and 320 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: pain gave me insight to everyone else on the planet. 321 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: It allowed me to be able to finally be in 322 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: someone's presence who didn't have it all together, you know, 323 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 1: like I had it together, like I thought I had 324 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: it together, And instead of being irritated by their own messiveness, 325 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: I could be compassionate because I had truly taken that 326 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: inner gland, become comfortable with my own and learned really 327 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: valuable strategies for moving beyond it. So it made me 328 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: a better human being and made me better allowed me 329 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: to be better in being with other people, right, um. 330 00:26:54,200 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 1: And so I have been delving in indeed dealing with 331 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: human emotions um through workshops, through uh A program, a 332 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: two year program called Spiritual Psychology, where literally you'd be 333 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: in a room of three to five hundred people in 334 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: different processes who would be doing their own inner work, 335 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: you know. And I became really familiar with and comfortable 336 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: with the human condition. And here's the discovery. No matter 337 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: what your thing is, pain is pain and feeling it 338 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: is the same for everyone. And so I know by right, 339 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: and I know what it means to struggle with awakening 340 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: because I was there, And I know what it means 341 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: to have something triggered inside of you that you don't 342 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: know how to deal with, and the frustration and the 343 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: pain and the world wind and the overwhelmed that comes 344 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 1: with that. So I have not been abused, but I 345 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: know we all have been limited by something. Yeah, we 346 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: all have allowed some some event in our lives to 347 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: stand over us and abuse us, make us feel small, 348 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: make us feel incapable, make us feel not good enough. 349 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: And I just tapped on what I'm tapped into what 350 00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, I feel like say, such a beautiful 351 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: preview of the work that. So, you have an event 352 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: coming up this weekend here in Atlanta. It is your 353 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: Atlanta stop of the Inner Fitness Outer Beauty Tour. So 354 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: give us an idea of what people can expect if 355 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: they come to the event this weekend. Yeah, so the 356 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: Interfinness Outer Beauty Tour. I'll tell you that. Um, the 357 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: whole idea behind it is us having a fun way 358 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:39,719 Speaker 1: to step into greater ownership of ourselves and our power. 359 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: And we've talked about the inward glance, well, what I 360 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: know for sure in my life at this point is 361 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: that having a powerful intention for your life transforms everything. 362 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: That when you can set an intention for what you want, 363 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: you absolutely create this um cosmic magnet that helps to 364 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: draw it to you. Now, what we what we don't 365 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: learn is that you know, you can set an intention 366 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: for external things, and you can set an intention for 367 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: internal things. And so we're going to start the day. 368 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: It's actually under the umbrella of disrupting the status quo, 369 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: because the way things have been done up until now 370 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: in our lives is not is not the way that 371 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: we need to do them going forward, and so disrupting 372 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: the status quo means that we are willing to absolutely 373 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: have a whole new, more powerful, more fulfilled, more awakened, 374 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: more uh a, you know, experienced iteration of ourselves come forward. 375 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: And we can do that simply by saying, Mmm, I 376 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: don't know if I have to do today the way 377 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: I did yesterday. Right, So that's the whole premise behind 378 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: the Inner Fitness Out of Beauty Tour, and we're going 379 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: to actually walk through setting an intention. Everyone will will 380 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: set their own intention so that no matter how many 381 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: people are in the room, this moment is your moment 382 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: to setting intention. And I have realized that for me 383 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: and all the intention setting that I've done in my life, 384 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: I make sure that there are five components, you know, 385 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: present in whatever intention I set. So I'm going to 386 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: share that, and you know people will set their powerful 387 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: intentions for themselves. We will go from that to understanding 388 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: how when we move into the world with these intentions, 389 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: how to incubate them and nurture them. And then we're 390 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: going to just allow ourselves. I have a really wonderful 391 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: uh I call it a gutty of a dance, but 392 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: it really one side jobs song and dance. It will 393 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: be playing in your head and it will be supporting 394 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: you and disrupting those old ways of being and making 395 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: room for something new. And they were actually going to 396 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: have a conversation around sex and sexuality, because you know, 397 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: we are our sexual beings and I don't right this 398 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: moment whatever your idea of sex and sexuality or what 399 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: I might be saying is about whatever your idea might be, 400 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: We're going to invite you to leave room for a new, 401 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: bigger idea, and then we're going to um. I've invited 402 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: on a hawk who is this wonderful yoga teacher. Now 403 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: we're not doing yoga because we're gonna be in chairs 404 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: and seats, but on A is going to show us 405 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: how to in the car wherever we are, take that 406 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: moment that is needed to bring us back to ourselves. 407 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: And then we're going to turn to my stylists. And 408 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: if you don't follow Jay Bolan, then you should because 409 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: he is mastiful at what he does. And we love 410 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:11,919 Speaker 1: we love looking good, we love feeling good. And when 411 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: we do the inner work, that gives us permission to 412 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: again disrupt the status quo on the outside. And so 413 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: who are you today? Not? Who have you been up 414 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: until now? Well? How might that impact you the next 415 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: time you go to your closet? How might that impact 416 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: you the next time you walk into a meeting? And 417 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: so we are going to take a look at fashion 418 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: in through the lens of our awakening self and um 419 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: dressing our spirit, owning our style, and loving our body. 420 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: And that's going to be our very I think it's 421 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,919 Speaker 1: a short day because my retreats are like three days, right, 422 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: So this is going to be the doors open at 423 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: nine o'clock and tennis clock Shark. We will get started 424 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: and the day will end very close to three o'clock 425 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: and then we have vendors and the whole intention is 426 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: for us to bond in the idea of what's possible 427 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: for our lives. Oh my gosh, this sounds amazing, like 428 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: a transformational experience. I think it will be incredible. Yes, yes, 429 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: I want it to be. That is my intention. I 430 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: don't know how you can walk away from and not 431 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: feeling just open to the possibilities and thinking new things 432 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 1: that could be happening in your life. Yeah. Yeah, Well, 433 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: thank you so much for sharing that information with us 434 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 1: to day, Miss Lifford. I do hope that you, if 435 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: you're in the Atlanta area, you will be able to 436 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: make it out because it definitely sounds like an experience 437 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: that won't me don't want to is it? What? People 438 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 1: should go to www dot Tina Lifford dot com and 439 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 1: sign up, and uh, I don't know if if in 440 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: fact you I want to offer your listeners something, What 441 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:26,439 Speaker 1: should I offer your listeners? Um? Okay, So if you're 442 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: listening to this on September, the Tina Liftford inter Fitness 443 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: Outer Beauty Day Tour for the first shall we say 444 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: ten people or shall we say twenty. Let's say twenty. 445 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,280 Speaker 1: That was wonderful on your part. So the first twenty 446 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: people who sign up mm hm, the first person who 447 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: signs up will be admitted free and and the next 448 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: night team will be half price. Love it. And here's 449 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 1: here's how we're gonna do that. So the first person 450 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 1: who here's this we're going to say, the person who 451 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: uses t b G one will get in free, okay, 452 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 1: and then the people who use t b G and 453 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: so we have off, thank you, will get half off. Perfect. 454 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: What a treat. Thank you so much excites me. That 455 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: excites me fantastic. How excited about that? I'm excited because 456 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 1: there's so much there's so much more that I look 457 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: forward to us talking about with regards to, you know, 458 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: therapy for black girls and just how how important the 459 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 1: work that you're doing in the world is. It is 460 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: super important, and I just want to say thank you, 461 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 1: thank you. I appreciate you, thank you. All right, So 462 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: if you're listening to this, definitely hop off and go 463 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 1: and grab your tickets so that you can be in 464 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: the number at her Atlanta stop. Now, are there other 465 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: cities that you have planned? Well, we already have been 466 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: in Chicago and Ston, uh, Houston and uh New York 467 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: in March is on the table. Okay, yeah, okay, so 468 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: for right now and this is the only stop that 469 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: you have to look forward to Atlanta and keep your 470 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: eyes open for New York and March. That's right. Well, 471 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: thank you so much for spending your time with us. 472 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: To David Stifford, I really really appreciate it so very much. 473 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: Loco good face, isn't she just everything? I love what 474 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: she had to say about paying attention to those moments 475 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: in our lives and really making space for our truest desires. 476 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: If you're in the Atlanta area and you're available this weekend, 477 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: you'll definitely want to check out her Inner Fitness, Outer 478 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: Beauty tour. As a reminder, I will be in conversation 479 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: with Dr Key Hallman, the incredible founder of the Village 480 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: Market h L on Sunday, September two at five thirty pm, 481 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 1: and we'll be chatting all about prioritizing our mental health 482 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 1: as black women business owners and how taking care of 483 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: ourselves helps us to thrive in life and in business. 484 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: So please come out and join us for this very 485 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: important conversation. You can grab your tickets at Therapy for 486 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,760 Speaker 1: Black Girls dot com slash dr key, and that information, 487 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 1: of course, will be in the show notes. Remember that 488 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 1: if you're searching for a therapist in your area, be 489 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: sure to check out our therapist directory at Therapy for 490 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: Black Girls dot com slash directory. And if you want 491 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: to continue digging into this topic and meet some other 492 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 1: sisters in your area, come on over and join us 493 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: in the Yellow Collective, where we take a deeper dive 494 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,720 Speaker 1: into the topics from the podcast and just about everything else. 495 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: You can join us at Therapy for Black Girls dot 496 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: com slash y c C and don't forget to grab 497 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: all of your goodies from our online store. 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