1
00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,640
Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody on Danboard, and thanks for downloading the

2
00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,520
Speaker 1: Bengals boot podcasts. The Man I could watch you like

3
00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,800
Speaker 1: a feature film edition as I visit with my favorite

4
00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:19,639
Speaker 1: film study guru, Greg Cosel. Then it's the latest edition

5
00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,239
Speaker 1: of five Questions with one of this year's draft picks,

6
00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:27,600
Speaker 1: followed by five observations after watching practice. The Bengals Booth

7
00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,200
Speaker 1: podcast is brought to you by Pai Core, proud to

8
00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,879
Speaker 1: be the Bengals official HR software provider, by Alta Fiber

9
00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,479
Speaker 1: future proof Fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, business

10
00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,000
Speaker 1: and community to a new level, and by Kettering Health

11
00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,159
Speaker 1: the best care for the best fans. Kettering Health is

12
00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,680
Speaker 1: the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. Now here's a

13
00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,519
Speaker 1: quick reminder that you can have the latest edition of

14
00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,120
Speaker 1: this podcast delivered write to your phone, tablet or computer

15
00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:59,200
Speaker 1: by subscribing wherever you get your podcasts. It's the greatest

16
00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,600
Speaker 1: thing since forgotten dry cleaning. I think we all know

17
00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,959
Speaker 1: the joy of discovering a five, ten, or even twenty

18
00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:12,240
Speaker 1: dollars bill in a pants pocket. You gotta love found money. Well,

19
00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,120
Speaker 1: I had a similar experience this week with clothing. I

20
00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,520
Speaker 1: was looking for my nicest suit for a dressy occasion,

21
00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,679
Speaker 1: and for the life of me couldn't find it. I

22
00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,720
Speaker 1: searched through every closet in the house before finally thinking

23
00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,920
Speaker 1: that maybe, just maybe, I took it to the dry

24
00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,600
Speaker 1: cleaner and forgot to pick it up. Sure enough, not

25
00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,520
Speaker 1: only did they have the suit, but they had several

26
00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,319
Speaker 1: nice dress shirts that had been sitting there since November.

27
00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,040
Speaker 1: It was like buying new clothes, but at a fraction

28
00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,960
Speaker 1: of the cost. Now let's get to my first guest.

29
00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,120
Speaker 1: I have something in common with Dan Patrick, Colin Cowherd,

30
00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,840
Speaker 1: Ross Tucker, and just about anybody that hosts a podcast

31
00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,680
Speaker 1: or radio show about football. One of my favorite guests

32
00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,560
Speaker 1: is Greg Cosel from NFL Films and the ESPN Matchup Show,

33
00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,080
Speaker 1: and he joined me this week for an in depth

34
00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,799
Speaker 1: off season look at the Bengals. Greg, the last time

35
00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,160
Speaker 1: we talked was at the NFL Combine where you were

36
00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,480
Speaker 1: working on your player evaluations, and as it turns out,

37
00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:22,480
Speaker 1: you did detailed film breakdowns of all six Bengals draft picks,

38
00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,760
Speaker 1: plus a couple of guys that they signed as undrafted

39
00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,679
Speaker 1: free agents. So let's start with Shamar Stewart. You called

40
00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,920
Speaker 1: him one of the most intriguing prospects in the draft.

41
00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:36,280
Speaker 2: Explain why, Yeah, because this guy is a freakish athlete.

42
00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,080
Speaker 2: I mean, you just turn on the tape. I knew nothing.

43
00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,160
Speaker 2: You know, It's funny, Dan, I watch a good amount

44
00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,960
Speaker 2: of college football, and some guys I end up feeling like, oh,

45
00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,280
Speaker 2: they're very familiar to me, even though I haven't done

46
00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,320
Speaker 2: their tape, And other guys I don't really know a

47
00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,679
Speaker 2: lot about it all. And Shamar Stewart was a guy

48
00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,320
Speaker 2: that was almost virgin territory for me when I started

49
00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,960
Speaker 2: watching him. And as soon as you put the tape on,

50
00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,160
Speaker 2: I mean, this guy is a sudden explosive athlete. He

51
00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,799
Speaker 2: just jumped off the tape just watching him move. I mean,

52
00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,480
Speaker 2: this guy has explosive athleticism. And then you watch more

53
00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,000
Speaker 2: and more and you can't help it be impressed with

54
00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,720
Speaker 2: the athleticism. But I came away feeling that he just

55
00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,040
Speaker 2: needs to learn how to rush the quarterback, that he

56
00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,600
Speaker 2: just didn't really have a sense of how to do that.

57
00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,280
Speaker 2: He would just get off the ball and run into

58
00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,120
Speaker 2: the tackle, and every once in a while, because he's

59
00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:31,160
Speaker 2: so strong and if he had enough runway with his velocity,

60
00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,399
Speaker 2: speed and natural power, he could shove the tackle back

61
00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,000
Speaker 2: into the pocket, and of course they moved him around

62
00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,960
Speaker 2: as well. As you probably know. He didn't just play

63
00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,960
Speaker 2: on the outside. But my sense is that's what he'll be.

64
00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,280
Speaker 2: So I came away believing that, you know, he just

65
00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,040
Speaker 2: someone needs to teach him really how to rush the quarterback,

66
00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,080
Speaker 2: all the nuances, the details, how to use his hands,

67
00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,000
Speaker 2: how to playoff contact. You have to be able to

68
00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:57,360
Speaker 2: play off contact.

69
00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:57,680
Speaker 3: You know.

70
00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,640
Speaker 2: I've been fortunate to speak to offensive lineman from the

71
00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,600
Speaker 2: first thing they say offensive tackles in particular is it's

72
00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,080
Speaker 2: all about speed to power. If you can't beat me

73
00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,880
Speaker 2: with power, then I have the advantage right off the bat.

74
00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,160
Speaker 2: So he's got to learn. Even though he's strong and

75
00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,360
Speaker 2: he's explosive, he has to learn how to play off

76
00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,080
Speaker 2: that contact because once he creates it, he kind of stopped.

77
00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,960
Speaker 2: So but if he can put it all together, you know,

78
00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,479
Speaker 2: when you say that about a lot of guys, so

79
00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,000
Speaker 2: I'm not saying anything profound here, but if you can

80
00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,000
Speaker 2: put it all together, you could have a guy that's

81
00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,800
Speaker 2: really a dynamic player because the athletic traits are just

82
00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:34,120
Speaker 2: off the charts.

83
00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,360
Speaker 1: Because he only had four and a half sacks in

84
00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,920
Speaker 1: his career in Texas A and M. He's been referred

85
00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,520
Speaker 1: to by some as boom or bust. I think of

86
00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,640
Speaker 1: it more as boom or solid. Yeah. Do you agree

87
00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:48,960
Speaker 1: with that?

88
00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, here's in my transition. I know you

89
00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,160
Speaker 2: look at my material, so you know how I do this.

90
00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,760
Speaker 2: You know I do strength to weaknesses transition in my transition,

91
00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,840
Speaker 2: which I'm sure you read that. At this point in

92
00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,080
Speaker 2: his development, Stewart is more of an athletic and physical

93
00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,040
Speaker 2: freak than a polished, refined player, and its projection and

94
00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,840
Speaker 2: transition to the next level will depend a great deal

95
00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,120
Speaker 2: in the D line coach of the team that drafts it.

96
00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,560
Speaker 2: And you know, so to me, that's a major thing.

97
00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,680
Speaker 2: You have to teach this guy. And I don't know

98
00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,880
Speaker 2: the kid. I'm hopeful he's receptive to being coached and

99
00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,160
Speaker 2: taught because you know, if he puts it all together,

100
00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,080
Speaker 2: like I said, you really have something.

101
00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,240
Speaker 1: Did Texas A and M use him in ways that

102
00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:32,880
Speaker 1: limited his production?

103
00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,839
Speaker 2: I mean he lined up in multiple spots along their

104
00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,320
Speaker 2: defensive front. I mean there were times he was reduced,

105
00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,919
Speaker 2: there were times he rushed versus guards, there were times

106
00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,600
Speaker 2: he was the one technique or zero technique. You know,

107
00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,920
Speaker 2: he really moved around, I think to me, and again

108
00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,320
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean you can't move him around. That depends

109
00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,480
Speaker 2: on your other personnelity and how they see it when

110
00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,919
Speaker 2: you get to pure pass situations. But my sense is

111
00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,480
Speaker 2: he's probably an edge player. You know, he had plays

112
00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,000
Speaker 2: you know when you watch the tape where you win, well,

113
00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,560
Speaker 2: you know he had he had a snap against armand

114
00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,920
Speaker 2: Membo last year and Membo was a was a high

115
00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,720
Speaker 2: pick in the first round, the Missouri right tackle where

116
00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,600
Speaker 2: he just physically manhandled Membo and Membo was really really strong.

117
00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,120
Speaker 2: And he had really some really good snaps as well

118
00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,960
Speaker 2: against Will Campbell from LSU. So it's there, it's in

119
00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,159
Speaker 2: his body. Like I said, I think he's an end.

120
00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,839
Speaker 2: Depending on the way their other personnel might develop, you know,

121
00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,159
Speaker 2: it could could you move him inside? You could?

122
00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:36,480
Speaker 3: Sure.

123
00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,120
Speaker 1: Their second round pick was linebacker Demetrius Knight out of

124
00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,960
Speaker 1: South Carolina. He wrote that he can be a Day

125
00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,000
Speaker 1: one starter, and that appears to be the plan. It

126
00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,120
Speaker 1: seems most likely that he is going to start for

127
00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,919
Speaker 1: the Bengals next to Logan Wilson. What do you like

128
00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:51,560
Speaker 1: about Knight?

129
00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I you know again, maybe I'm old school.

130
00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,000
Speaker 2: Then you know, it's probably because I'm old But you know,

131
00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:02,320
Speaker 2: the thing I liked about Night is this guy just

132
00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,400
Speaker 2: had a really well chiseled frame and he played physically.

133
00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,960
Speaker 2: And to me, if you're going to be a stackbacker

134
00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,240
Speaker 2: somewhere along the line, you have to play physically. And

135
00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,400
Speaker 2: I thought that he really did that well. But now

136
00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,880
Speaker 2: there were other elements of his game that I really

137
00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,280
Speaker 2: really loved. He had a quick trigger, he had an

138
00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:24,400
Speaker 2: explosive first step, he had burst in acceleration. I thought

139
00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,160
Speaker 2: his run defense was as good as any linebacker in

140
00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,920
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five draft class. I mean, he knew

141
00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,880
Speaker 2: what he saw. You know, we talk about key and diagnose.

142
00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,960
Speaker 2: That's a phrase you hear a lot for the linebackers

143
00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,560
Speaker 2: in particular. I thought his key and diagnose was really good.

144
00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,760
Speaker 2: For another trim, you hear a lot of scrape and

145
00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,400
Speaker 2: flow to work through traffic. I thought he was really

146
00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,440
Speaker 2: really good at that. And he was a better athlete

147
00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,440
Speaker 2: than I think some people gave him credit for. He

148
00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,760
Speaker 2: made a lot of plays where he in pursued, you know,

149
00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,920
Speaker 2: running down people. So I really liked his tape a lot.

150
00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,280
Speaker 2: And you know, when I saw its forty time and again,

151
00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,760
Speaker 2: not that that's the be all and end all. I said, Okay,

152
00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,680
Speaker 2: you know that that's good. He ran a four or

153
00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,960
Speaker 2: five eight that that's good because this kid is a

154
00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,480
Speaker 2: good sized kid. You've probably seen him. I mean, he's

155
00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,200
Speaker 2: put together. So I thought he was a classic stacked

156
00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,560
Speaker 2: backer and obviously that's the way he would play for

157
00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,160
Speaker 2: the Bengals. And as you said, it would not surprise

158
00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,120
Speaker 2: me for a second if he's the starter next to

159
00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:24,840
Speaker 2: Logan Wilson.

160
00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,720
Speaker 1: They took another linebacker in the fourth round, Barrett Carter

161
00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,840
Speaker 1: out of Clemson. One Bengal scout told me that he

162
00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,160
Speaker 1: thought he was the best coverage linebacker in the draft.

163
00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,400
Speaker 1: What stood out to you when you watch Barrett Carter?

164
00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's what that to me is his best

165
00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,400
Speaker 2: the best part of his game. I mean I thought that,

166
00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,160
Speaker 2: you know, he had the speed to carry your receivers

167
00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,880
Speaker 2: down the seam. He was really good. And underneath his

168
00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,560
Speaker 2: own coverage, he had a good feel for routes, good

169
00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,200
Speaker 2: feel for reading the quarterback. You know, he's a very

170
00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,360
Speaker 2: athletic kid. I mean he's a little bit smaller than

171
00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,880
Speaker 2: you'd idea only like I think, but you know, he's

172
00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,560
Speaker 2: probably still a stackbacker. There's no question that he had

173
00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,800
Speaker 2: to see it and go quick trigger mentality. I mean,

174
00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,680
Speaker 2: he played fast and he had a lot of range.

175
00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:16,720
Speaker 2: He's twitchy. You know, he's an interesting guy. Uh And

176
00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,560
Speaker 2: my guess is he's a fourth round pick because he's

177
00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,800
Speaker 2: not quite as big as you would like. You know,

178
00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,480
Speaker 2: he's six feet, he's two thirty. Yeah, he didn't his

179
00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,480
Speaker 2: forty times wasn't as good as Knights. That which is

180
00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,320
Speaker 2: really interesting because at the end of the day, he's

181
00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,720
Speaker 2: he's his game has to be about speed and range.

182
00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,760
Speaker 2: But he is a really good coverage player. It'll be

183
00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,120
Speaker 2: interesting to see how he acclimates to the league and

184
00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,839
Speaker 2: if you can play in their sub early on, or

185
00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,480
Speaker 2: whether he's the kind of player that almost needs, you know,

186
00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,480
Speaker 2: half a year or a year to kind of acclimate

187
00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:48,160
Speaker 2: to the league.

188
00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,600
Speaker 1: We are chatting with Greg co Sell from NFL Films

189
00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,920
Speaker 1: in the ESPN Matchup Show. The Bengals drafted two offensive linemen,

190
00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,960
Speaker 1: Dylan Fairchild in the third round Jalen Rivers in the fifth.

191
00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,000
Speaker 1: In reading your evaluations, I got the impression that you

192
00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,160
Speaker 1: were just as high on Rivers as fair Child. Is

193
00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:07,880
Speaker 1: that accurate.

194
00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really like Jalen Rivers. You know, it's funny,

195
00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,600
Speaker 2: Jalen Rivers I actually watched a year ago, you know,

196
00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,640
Speaker 2: just I look at names in the summer. You know,

197
00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,439
Speaker 2: it's what I'm doing now. I'm watching some guys will

198
00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,679
Speaker 2: be in next year's draft. So I saw a lot

199
00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,679
Speaker 2: of snaps of Rivers in twenty twenty three, and then

200
00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,840
Speaker 2: of course I did them a lot this year. I

201
00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,640
Speaker 2: really liked Rivers. You know, he played both left guard

202
00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:34,600
Speaker 2: and left tackle. He's got extensive experience playing both. My senses,

203
00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,559
Speaker 2: you know, you tell me you're there. My senses, he'll

204
00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,280
Speaker 2: probably be seen as a guard. Is that the way

205
00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:40,200
Speaker 2: it's playing out.

206
00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,520
Speaker 1: They're starting them out at tackle.

207
00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,640
Speaker 2: Interesting and you know, and it's interesting you say that

208
00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,440
Speaker 2: because his arm length is thirty five inches and he

209
00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,040
Speaker 2: has a tremendous wingspan. So and he's six' five three

210
00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,480
Speaker 2: quarters and three nineteen so he's got everything you want

211
00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,640
Speaker 2: size wise for a. TACKLE i think he can be a,

212
00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,800
Speaker 2: tackle but you, KNOW i thought that he could be

213
00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,640
Speaker 2: a really good. Guard so, again we'll see how it plays.

214
00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,840
Speaker 2: Out but you, know there's not a lot of tackles

215
00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,600
Speaker 2: that come out in the draft with thirty five inch,

216
00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:13,200
Speaker 2: arms so he has what it. Takes AND i really

217
00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,280
Speaker 2: liked his. TAPE i saw a lot of snaps of

218
00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,960
Speaker 2: him over a two year, period you, know and to, Me,

219
00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,760
Speaker 2: dan he was just one of those guys that was

220
00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,760
Speaker 2: just a really solid. Player like if he plays the

221
00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,080
Speaker 2: same way in THE nfl that he played At, miami

222
00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,040
Speaker 2: he's the. Guy to, me you just line him up

223
00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,079
Speaker 2: and you feel. Comfortable he may not be An All,

224
00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,880
Speaker 2: pro he may, not you, know but you just feel,

225
00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,240
Speaker 2: like you know What we're. Okay rivers is out, There

226
00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:37,600
Speaker 2: he's gonna do his.

227
00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:42,480
Speaker 1: Job because of his. Versatility At, MIAMI i think they

228
00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,280
Speaker 1: look at him as a great candidate to be a swing,

229
00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,600
Speaker 1: tackle a guy that can play. Guard so at least for,

230
00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,440
Speaker 1: now he's been getting most of his repsit, tackle but

231
00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,280
Speaker 1: obviously that can change as we get closer to the.

232
00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,920
Speaker 1: Season as For Dylan, fairchild he's currently projected to start

233
00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,959
Speaker 1: at left. Guard would he be an upgrade From Cordell,

234
00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,040
Speaker 1: vohlson particularly in pass.

235
00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:05,240
Speaker 3: Pro.

236
00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,679
Speaker 2: YEAH i went back and forth on. Him there were

237
00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,960
Speaker 2: TIMES i thought he was. GOOD i MEAN i even

238
00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,160
Speaker 2: said that in my transition he was a mixed. WATCH

239
00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,240
Speaker 2: i thought there was some good and some not so.

240
00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,960
Speaker 2: Good AS i thought about his projection to the. League you,

241
00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,120
Speaker 2: know you watch a guy play At george, obviously and

242
00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,319
Speaker 2: they run the, ball you, KNOW nfl run. Game he passed,

243
00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,480
Speaker 2: protected so he had a lot of, snaps AND i

244
00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,679
Speaker 2: saw a lot of, snaps AND i thought he had

245
00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,280
Speaker 2: some really good snapshots both as a run blocker and pass.

246
00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,200
Speaker 2: Protector BUT i thought the thing that stood out to,

247
00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,640
Speaker 2: Me and Again i'm certainly not an a line. Coach you,

248
00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,920
Speaker 2: know the THING i always try to figure out WHEN

249
00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,520
Speaker 2: i watch olignemen AND i try to get the answer

250
00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,560
Speaker 2: from all line coaches as well guys AS i, know

251
00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,040
Speaker 2: BUT i still feel LIKE i struggle sometimes IS i

252
00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,600
Speaker 2: never know what AN o line coach you'll tell, me

253
00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,080
Speaker 2: OH i can fix that in two, weeks OR i

254
00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,840
Speaker 2: can't fix, that you. Know SO i SO i thought

255
00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,960
Speaker 2: he had balance and body control issues too often for.

256
00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,040
Speaker 2: Me you, Know i'm not an a, guru BUT i

257
00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,880
Speaker 2: think that that needs to be corrected BECAUSE i thought

258
00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,520
Speaker 2: that he got you, know his body over his feet too.

259
00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,160
Speaker 2: Often his upper. BODY i thought they were you, know

260
00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,560
Speaker 2: just some. Missionies and and he was a third round,

261
00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,000
Speaker 2: pick so that's not a throwaway. Pick a third round

262
00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,320
Speaker 2: pick for an offensive guard is a guy you think

263
00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,600
Speaker 2: is going to be a. Starter, so as you, said

264
00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,680
Speaker 2: they haven't penciled in that way right. NOW i did

265
00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,480
Speaker 2: feel that he had strong traits to develop into a,

266
00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,120
Speaker 2: starter and THEN i said that that whether that occurs

267
00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,880
Speaker 2: will be a function of coaching and. Commitment and you

268
00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,400
Speaker 2: know That i'm not, there SO i don't know how

269
00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,240
Speaker 2: all that's going to. Work AND i certainly don't Know Dylan.

270
00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,720
Speaker 2: Fairchild but there's a lot of there's a lot of good,

271
00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,920
Speaker 2: snapshots BUT i just thought the balance and body control

272
00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,040
Speaker 2: that needs to be cleaned.

273
00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:50,240
Speaker 3: Up.

274
00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,080
Speaker 1: Well as we, said he is penciled in for. Now

275
00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,839
Speaker 1: so a lot can change between now and the start

276
00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,079
Speaker 1: of the season In, cleveland but at least for, Now

277
00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,880
Speaker 1: Scott peters thinks that he's a guy that can start

278
00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,839
Speaker 1: at left. Guard The bengals final draft pick was running

279
00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,120
Speaker 1: Back Taj. Brooks what does he add to a running

280
00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,080
Speaker 1: back room that Includes Chase brown and some A Jp Ryn.

281
00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,400
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting because you know, WHAT i really Like Chase.

282
00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,880
Speaker 2: BROWN i mean you probably do, too you. KNOW i

283
00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,720
Speaker 2: Think Chase brown is a really good, player you, know

284
00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:27,080
Speaker 2: AND i think because you, know A burrow And chase And.

285
00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,200
Speaker 2: Higgins you, know you don't really think a whole lot

286
00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,960
Speaker 2: About Chase, brown BUT i think you would agree that

287
00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,040
Speaker 2: he had a really good year last, year you, know

288
00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,480
Speaker 2: for how he was deployed and what he was asked to.

289
00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,080
Speaker 2: Do you, KNOW i, mean obviously they're not using him

290
00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,000
Speaker 2: where they want. To they give him the, ball you,

291
00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:46,000
Speaker 2: know to Be Derrick, henry you, know that's not what he.

292
00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,160
Speaker 2: Is but the thing About brooks and it'll be. Interesting

293
00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:50,960
Speaker 2: he's got a lot of wear and. Tear he's had

294
00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,160
Speaker 2: over nine hundred carries in five years in. COLLEGE i

295
00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,320
Speaker 2: think he's he knows how to. Run you, know he's

296
00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,280
Speaker 2: got good. Size he's not a, burner BUT i think

297
00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,880
Speaker 2: he knows how to. Run he's, patient he knows how

298
00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,520
Speaker 2: to press the. Hole he knows how to set up

299
00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,920
Speaker 2: second level, defenders which is SOMETHING i really look for with,

300
00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,800
Speaker 2: backs with their path because obviously the way backs are

301
00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,640
Speaker 2: often taught in you know, this the first two steps

302
00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,880
Speaker 2: backs have to they have a path that's that's dictated

303
00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,760
Speaker 2: by what the run. Is and then at that point

304
00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,280
Speaker 2: maybe maybe it's three, steps depending on the coach and

305
00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,680
Speaker 2: how it's. Coached but then it's, okay what happens? Next

306
00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,560
Speaker 2: then it's it's more what he, sees how he. REACTS

307
00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,800
Speaker 2: i think he can change. DIRECTION i think he showed

308
00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,600
Speaker 2: some jump cut. Ability you. KNOW i think he's a solid.

309
00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,800
Speaker 2: Back he's just he's a big. Back so the question,

310
00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,360
Speaker 2: is Because Chase brown is not a small back, either

311
00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,920
Speaker 2: is where does he fit? In you, know he's not

312
00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,720
Speaker 2: going to beat Out Chase, Brown so the question is

313
00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,320
Speaker 2: is does he get some snaps in place Of Chase

314
00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,520
Speaker 2: brown because he's certainly not going to be your third down.

315
00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,000
Speaker 1: Back that's P, Ryan, yeah that's P.

316
00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:57,400
Speaker 2: Ryan.

317
00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,960
Speaker 1: Yep The bengals did not draft defensive, tackle but they

318
00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:06,400
Speaker 1: signed to as undrafted free. Agents that you did detailed

319
00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,400
Speaker 1: evaluations Of Eric gregory out Of arkansas And Howard cross

320
00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,280
Speaker 1: out Of Notre. Dame described those two.

321
00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,920
Speaker 2: Guys, Yeah gregory was a GUY i kind of, liked

322
00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,160
Speaker 2: to be honest with. YOU i, MEAN i Thought, gregory you,

323
00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,080
Speaker 2: know BECAUSE i watched a lot Of, arkansas BECAUSE i

324
00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,920
Speaker 2: watched a lot Of land And, jackson and So gregory has,

325
00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,960
Speaker 2: said you know, What i'm gonna watch him. Too he's

326
00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,320
Speaker 2: he's a run stuffer. Guy you, Know he's another one

327
00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,760
Speaker 2: of those guys that's a run. Stuffer that's the strength

328
00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,520
Speaker 2: of his. Game you, know HE'S i would say he's

329
00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,880
Speaker 2: and he developed into a pass rusher at times, maybe

330
00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,480
Speaker 2: but he's you, know he's got a desirable combination of

331
00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,360
Speaker 2: point of attack, strength he's got quickness to take on

332
00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,240
Speaker 2: and defeat double. Teams but you, know it's funny you,

333
00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,360
Speaker 2: mentioned you, know sort of what they. Did the player

334
00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,320
Speaker 2: THAT i, thought in some ways is is really. Interesting

335
00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:04,040
Speaker 2: And i'm really curious Is slayton who they, signed Because

336
00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,880
Speaker 2: slayton is a, really really good run defender AND i

337
00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,639
Speaker 2: liked him a, lot so to, me that was a

338
00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,840
Speaker 2: really really important signing for. Them, so you, know we

339
00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,080
Speaker 2: talked about this the last TIME i spoke to you

340
00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,360
Speaker 2: and we did this and we talked ABOUT i had

341
00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,000
Speaker 2: mentioned the fact THAT i thought that their d tackles

342
00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,840
Speaker 2: were not you, know run guys or passed or you,

343
00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,960
Speaker 2: know that they needed work, there and they obviously felt

344
00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:31,760
Speaker 2: the same. Way but, uh you, Know Cross cross is

345
00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,160
Speaker 2: a smaller. Guy i'm always a little leery of those

346
00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,919
Speaker 2: guys because he's not super. Explosive you, Know he's not

347
00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,320
Speaker 2: one of those guys that you go, wow you, Know

348
00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,960
Speaker 2: it's not like you're looking At Grady. Jarrett you know

349
00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,199
Speaker 2: those kinds of. Guys you, know some guys are just

350
00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,680
Speaker 2: super explosive and you live with the fact that they're.

351
00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,920
Speaker 2: Smaller you, Know i'm not going to compare anyone To Aaron, donald,

352
00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,440
Speaker 2: obviously but you, know smaller guys have to be. Explosive

353
00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,760
Speaker 2: AND i think the reason cross despite a really nice college,

354
00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,800
Speaker 2: career A Notre dame and you, know to talk going

355
00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,919
Speaker 2: into his last year that he'd, be you, know a

356
00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:07,159
Speaker 2: higher draftable. Player it just you, know the traits, eventually

357
00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:11,520
Speaker 2: just don't, say, hey draftaball and you know He's he's

358
00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:12,720
Speaker 2: one of those. Guys he's a long.

359
00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,840
Speaker 1: Shot to, me we are visiting with a Great greg Co.

360
00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,800
Speaker 1: Cell we now have five years OF nfl tape Of Joe.

361
00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,919
Speaker 1: Burrow he's got the best completion percentage IN nfl, history

362
00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,040
Speaker 1: nearly sixty nine. Percent his career passer rating is better

363
00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:31,280
Speaker 1: than one oh. One you've studied quarterbacks for more than forty.

364
00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:36,080
Speaker 1: Years are there areas where you already Consider Joe burrow

365
00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:37,359
Speaker 1: to be an all time?

366
00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:42,640
Speaker 2: Great all time? Great is that's that's you, know that's

367
00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,640
Speaker 2: a big. Term, LOOK i Love Joe. BURROW i, mean it's.

368
00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,480
Speaker 2: FUNNY i had my intern last year was a quarterback in.

369
00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,600
Speaker 2: College he's now working in the, league you, know which

370
00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,800
Speaker 2: is great for, Him and he was a quarterback and

371
00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:56,960
Speaker 2: we used to Talk borrow all the time because he,

372
00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,960
Speaker 2: was you, know a, quarterback and you just we love Talking.

373
00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,800
Speaker 2: BURROW i, mean there's nothing not to love when you

374
00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,840
Speaker 2: talk About Joe, burrow just the way he. Plays you,

375
00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,399
Speaker 2: Know burrow is one of those guys that when you

376
00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,920
Speaker 2: watch him play and you would know, this you're. There i'm,

377
00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,439
Speaker 2: not AND i certainly don't Know Joe, burrow but he

378
00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:18,080
Speaker 2: just seems like he's so aware of everything going, on

379
00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,840
Speaker 2: like it's innate to. Him it's just in HIS, dna you,

380
00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,080
Speaker 2: know Because i've talked to coaches over the years who

381
00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,720
Speaker 2: always say offensive coaches that it really takes at least

382
00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:32,240
Speaker 2: three years for a quarterback to understand all the details

383
00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,600
Speaker 2: of his offense and then all the details of all

384
00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,200
Speaker 2: the defenses he plays. AGAINST i just get the sense

385
00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,760
Speaker 2: Watching burrow that that's just innate to, him that he

386
00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,000
Speaker 2: just gets. That you, know, guys a lot of guys

387
00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,280
Speaker 2: never learn, that you, know they coaches teach, it but

388
00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,800
Speaker 2: some guys you, know in some ways you do. BASKETBALL

389
00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,560
Speaker 2: i know you do The university Of cincinnati. Basketball it's

390
00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,840
Speaker 2: like a point. Guard you, know you can sit with an,

391
00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,240
Speaker 2: iPad you can watch film all day. Long some guys

392
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,040
Speaker 2: see the floor and some guys. Don't you can't teach

393
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,320
Speaker 2: a guy to Be Jason. Kidd you, know some guys

394
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,960
Speaker 2: see the, floor some guys. Don't when you agree with

395
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 2: that based.

396
00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:13,720
Speaker 1: On, yeah point guards, absolutely.

397
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 2: And a quarterback in many. Ways as a point, guard

398
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 2: you know is you know you call no one calls

399
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 2: a play with the idea of drop back and run.

400
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,600
Speaker 2: Around they call a play with the idea that whether

401
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,800
Speaker 2: it's three, step five, step seventh, step that you're gonna

402
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,760
Speaker 2: hit that step and you're gonna be able to throw

403
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 2: the ball to. Someone it may not be the primary

404
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,000
Speaker 2: although in an ideal world that's what you, like that's

405
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,399
Speaker 2: what you, want but you're gonna throw the ball to,

406
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 2: someone so, you're you, know at its, core the way

407
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,720
Speaker 2: the quarterback position is taught as you're a, distributor you're

408
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 2: not a. Playmaker the playmaker is sort of the added

409
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 2: element that the league kind of demands more than ever

410
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 2: because of the way defenses have, evolved but the way

411
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,439
Speaker 2: the position is still taught is you're a distributor and.

412
00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 2: Borrowed to, me just seems like he has such an

413
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 2: innate feel for where to go with the, football you,

414
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,399
Speaker 2: know and and if and if the play doesn't, work

415
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,160
Speaker 2: he has an immediate feel, for, Hey i'm gonna. Move

416
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 2: but he just. Knows AND i don't know if you

417
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 2: CAN i, mean obviously he's, coached you, know BUT i

418
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 2: don't know if you can coach that kind of a

419
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 2: vision and. Clarity he just plays the game with so much,

420
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 2: clarity would you, AGREE.

421
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 1: I, mean pre, snap post, snap middle of the, play

422
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 1: all of. It that the spatial. Awarenessess, yeah it's. Uncanny you.

423
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 2: KNOW i have this conversation With Kurt warner so many.

424
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,439
Speaker 2: Times Kurt warner is not a big fan of pure,

425
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 2: progression Which i'll give a one sense explanation and that

426
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 2: it's very. Simple it's the way it's taught, now beginning

427
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 2: at a young age with quarterbacks is they're basically taught

428
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 2: that here's the route. Concept you throw it to the

429
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 2: to the. Primary if he's not, open you throw it

430
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 2: to the next. Guy if he's not, open you throw

431
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 2: it to the next. Guy the defense doesn't. Matter AND

432
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 2: i think that's fine all through. COLLEGE i don't think

433
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 2: that's fine in THE. Nfl And kurt AND i talk

434
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 2: about this all the time because he can't stand. That he,

435
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 2: says how can you play quarterback in THE nfl without

436
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 2: truly understanding what the defense? Is and you, know my

437
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 2: guess Is burrow really knows defenses that are really really

438
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 2: high level and in his study for any given, opponent

439
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 2: that he really understands what he's facing that given week

440
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 2: and how it impacts how he has to. Play but

441
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 2: he's just you, know he's such a fun. WATCH i,

442
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: mean you, know LIKE i, said, YEAH i love Watching Josh.

443
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 2: Allen who does? It you, KNOW i, mean come, on

444
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 2: but you, know just the Way burrow and by the

445
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,439
Speaker 2: Way alan has gotten so much better in that, regard

446
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,120
Speaker 2: by the WAY i Think Joe brady's done a great

447
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 2: job with.

448
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 1: Him but.

449
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 2: You, KNOW i just you, know the plays that no

450
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 2: one ever sees as a, highlight but WHICH i see

451
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 2: Because i've been Watching tate now for more than thirty,

452
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 2: years you, know and the plays that are so important in.

453
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 2: Games and you know, This dan is when it's third and,

454
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 2: seven you complete a ball for nine. Yards those are

455
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,160
Speaker 2: the plays that you, Know Troy aikman was a master

456
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 2: at that with Jovichik those are never plays you see

457
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 2: on a highlight because they don't seem like they're, important

458
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 2: but they're really. Important you. Know those are the plays

459
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 2: that matter in.

460
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: Games And Joe burrow has executed those plays as well

461
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: as anybody in the league during HIS nfl. Career let's

462
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: talk about the guy that he throws to most, Frequently Jamar.

463
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: Chase coming off incredible year where he led THE nfl

464
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: and catches yards and. Touchdowns how does he get? Open

465
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: how do The bengals get him open when every defense

466
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: they face is designed to try to shut him.

467
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: Down that becomes a function of a couple of. Things

468
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 2: and believe, me there are, times and you know, this

469
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 2: you know where teams clearly and situationally will double. Him

470
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 2: there's no question that that does. Occur and by the,

471
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 2: way there's been times he's beat double teams, too which

472
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 2: make you know is one of the reasons he's so.

473
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 2: Great BUT i think what you get into AND i

474
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,679
Speaker 2: don't have a breakdown in front of me because you,

475
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 2: know you AND i are just kind of talking. BALL

476
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 2: i didn't know what you were going to talk to me.

477
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 2: About BUT i think they do a really really good.

478
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 2: Job and you have to do this now in the

479
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 2: league with formation, variation, Movement chase does not just line

480
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 2: up in one. Spot he's not just the BOUNDARY, x

481
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,199
Speaker 2: even though he can line up. There he's not just

482
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 2: this or just. That he lines up all over the.

483
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 2: Formation they'll he'll go in motion at. TIMES i, mean you,

484
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 2: know you're trying to dictate to the defense that, hey

485
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 2: if they want to double, him then you're going to

486
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 2: have to make them adjust just before the snap of

487
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 2: the ball and or just or line up in a

488
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 2: way that maybe they are not really comfortable, playing because

489
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 2: If chase is in a certain, spot well now we

490
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: may be a little uncomfortable with who we have playing T,

491
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 2: higgins you. Know so it's you, know fans always, say,

492
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 2: well just double them on every. Play, well you AND

493
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 2: i both know the game doesn't quite work like. That

494
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 2: offenses know those things, too so they do a lot

495
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 2: of different. Things BUT i remember When chase came out

496
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 2: and he didn't play as last year in college as

497
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 2: many might, remember BECAUSE i believe that was THE covid,

498
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 2: year serves me, Correctly BUT i remember watching all his

499
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 2: tape the year prior when you, know which is twenty

500
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 2: nineteen when they won The national championship When borrow was the,

501
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 2: quarterback AND i remember the player and he's, bigger but

502
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 2: the player that he reminded me. Of AND i don't

503
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: Think i've said this in, years Because chase is his own,

504
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 2: guy and to, Me chase And jefferson are the two

505
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 2: best receivers in. Football he reminded me of a Bigger Steve.

506
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 2: Smith does that make any sense to?

507
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: You in some? WAYS i, mean competitiveness when the ball

508
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: is in the, air one of those two guys is

509
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: going to come down with. It great after the, catch.

510
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 2: Explosive great after the, catch can be a little, nasty

511
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: you know at. Times, YEAH i MEAN i just that's

512
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 2: the guy that jumped out to me WHEN i watched

513
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 2: his college, tape and nothing in THE nfl has changed

514
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 2: my view of. That you, know that's kind of you,

515
00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 2: Know HE'S i just think he's absolutely. Terrific he's so.

516
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 2: EXPLOSIVE i think he's a really good route runner. TOO

517
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 2: i think that's probably overlooked because he's so explosive and

518
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,479
Speaker 2: just a body. TYPE i, mean he, is he is

519
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 2: just so solidly. Built so AS i, SAID i look

520
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: At Jason jefferson as the two best receivers in the.

521
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: League all, right a few more questions For Greg cosel

522
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: from ESPN's Matchup show AND nfl. Films let's talk defense

523
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: a little. Bit El bolden comes From Notre dame to

524
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: become the defensive. Coordinator his defense last year was fourth

525
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 1: and points allowed number one in. Takeaways i'm sure you

526
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 1: saw a lot Of Notre dame's defense as you study

527
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: their players for the. Draft did anything stand out about

528
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 1: his defense as a?

529
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 2: Whole you, Know it's, FUNNY i didn't study you, Know

530
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 2: i'm usually looking at. Players you, KNOW i guess the

531
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 2: thing That i'm very curious, about and you know you're,

532
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 2: there so you may have a. Sense i'm curious to

533
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 2: see if there's going to be you, know more. Crusher you,

534
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 2: KNOW i never viewed The bengals as kind of a

535
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: pressure sure. Defense you, know they weren't. TIMES i, mean

536
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 2: everybody is at, times but you know a lot of

537
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 2: times when it comes to, pressure you have to feel

538
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 2: good about your. Corners you, Know Notre, dame, ACTUALLY i

539
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: Mean Marson Benjamin morrison got, hurt but they had memory

540
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 2: serves me. Correctly they had a freshman corner who was,

541
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 2: really really. Good it's probably going to be a top

542
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 2: pick in a couple of. Years but and of course

543
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 2: they had the safety In, watts whose the third round

544
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 2: pick OF i Guess. Atlanta They atlanta, right so that

545
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 2: they had really they had a really good back. End

546
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 2: but you, KNOW i guess if the season were to

547
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 2: start tomorrow on the, outside would we be looking At

548
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 2: turner and Tailor.

549
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 1: Britt, probably although With Dax hill he was so successful

550
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: as an outside corner last. Year, yeah there's some thought

551
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: that he moves to the slot because he played a

552
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: lot of that in. College on the other, hand it's

553
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: so hard to find good out outside. Corners, yeah and

554
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: he was their. Best do you leave him out there

555
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: and then figure out the slot Between Josh, newton who

556
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: was a rookie last, year Maybe Jalen davis who's been

557
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: good as a. BACKUP i think that's that's going to

558
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: be a resolve during training.

559
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 2: Camp, yeah AND i think that's a big question Because Dax.

560
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 2: HILL i, thought what week did he get hurt last?

561
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: Year it was The baltimore. GAME i think it Was week.

562
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: Five If i've GOT i, THOUGHT i.

563
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 2: Thought he played really well at outside, corner AND i

564
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: think he's got the traits to be you, know it's

565
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 2: FUNNY i said that in my notes WHEN i did

566
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: him coming, out, because as you, know when he was In,

567
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: michigan he played. Safety he played safety in their base

568
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: and he played slot in their sub packages At Notre

569
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: dame excuse, me At, michigan and he was really good at.

570
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: Both and obviously he was drafted as a safety because

571
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: that was in a sense primary. Position BUT i made

572
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: a note AS i watched, HIM i, Said, god with

573
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 2: his traits and his side THAT i thought he could

574
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: play outside corner in the. League and you, know we

575
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: you AND i have had this conversation a couple of,

576
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: times and obviously they made the. Move AND i think

577
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: you got to start at outside, Corner, like if you

578
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 2: feel he's one of your two best outside, corners to,

579
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: me he's got to go. There i'm not saying slot's not.

580
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 2: Important it's become obviously an increasingly important position in the.

581
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 2: League BUT i think you got to start on the,

582
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 2: outside and if he's one of your two, best he's

583
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: got to that's where he's got to.

584
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: Play he was their best last, year and again there

585
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: wasn't a ton of, games But i'm inclined to. AGREE

586
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: i think if he's your best outside corner with a

587
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: position of that, importance at least that's where you. Begin

588
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: and then IF dj And Cam taylor Brit are having great,

589
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: camps maybe you. Reconsider BUT i think as well as

590
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: he played it last, year that's where you start him

591
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:53,719
Speaker 1: and you go from.

592
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: There, well the interesting thing to me, is you, know

593
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: look the way drafts work, out you never, know it's

594
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: always easy FOR i went to say they should have drafted,

595
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 2: this or they should have drafted. That you, know you

596
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: know how drafts work. OUT i never do that because

597
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: there's so many. Factors i'm not in draft, rooms you,

598
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: KNOW i. Don't you, know there's just too many variables

599
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: to start saying things about how you know what teams.

600
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: Do but obviously it's essentially the same group on the

601
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 2: back end as it was a year. Ago so since

602
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 2: they did not make a, move they must feel pretty.

603
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 2: Comfortable these players are still, young you, know and they're

604
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: with them every. Day you, Know i'm. Not you're you,

605
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: know you're around, it so you you, know you know

606
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: more THAN i. Do BUT i Mean turner was a

607
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 2: second round. Pick battle was a you, know third round.

608
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,719
Speaker 2: Pick Taylor britt was a second round. PICK i know

609
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 2: he had his ups and downs last. YEAR i Thought

610
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 2: Josh newton was probably more, worthy you, know could have

611
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: been drafted higher than a fifth round. Pick BUT i

612
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: thought playing both snaps in the slot and outside last,

613
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 2: year he quitted himself. Reasonably well when you, agree totally,

614
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: agree you. Know so they you, know they obviously feel that,

615
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: hey morek you, know knew some new, coaches you, know

616
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: a little bit of a new system that, hey these

617
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 2: guys can line up and play because you. Can't. Look

618
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: you AND i both know you can't go into AN

619
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: nfl season feeling like you're not good at. Corner that's

620
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 2: just too much of a. Hindrance so they obviously believe

621
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: some combination Of, Turner, Newton Taylor britt And hill on the,

622
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: outside some combination of that is going to get the job.

623
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: Done so you listed several of the guys that they've

624
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: used high draft picks on on defense in recent. Years

625
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: let me hit you with a couple other, names guys

626
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: that are expected to play much more significant roles this.

627
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: Year Miles murphy And Chris. Jenkins what do you think

628
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: of those two as they step into or at least

629
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: we figure step, into more prominent.

630
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: Roles murphy is in some ways a carbon, copy although

631
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: not quite as, freaky but he's somewhat of a carbon

632
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: copy Of Shamar. Stewart you watched, him you, know look at,

633
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: him and you, know you know you see. Him this

634
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 2: guy looks like he should be a really good. PLAYER i,

635
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 2: mean he's, big he's, long he's. Athletic everything About Miles

636
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: murphy says this guy should be able to be a

637
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: good D. N i can't tell you why it hasn't happened,

638
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: yet you, KNOW i certainly don't know, him but you're.

639
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 2: RIGHT i, mean, look let's assume The hendricksons thing works.

640
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: OUT i, mean he's you know how stuff gets said In,

641
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 2: may AND i you, know if he's not, traded he's

642
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: not going to sit out the whole season that that

643
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: just doesn't, happen you, know so and when it does,

644
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: happen guys ruined their careers and HE'S i don't think

645
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: he's gonna do that, personally but you, KNOW i don't

646
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 2: know Trade, Hendrickson but let's assume he's back so now

647
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: they're still looking for that other age. Player you, know

648
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 2: they have a sigh who hasn't quite been the. Guy you,

649
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: Know murphy was drafted. To, REALLY i, mean he's the

650
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: first round, pick as you, know and he looks the.

651
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,239
Speaker 2: Part so it's in an ideal world they would love

652
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: it to Be stewart Or. MURPHY i, mean that's the bottom,

653
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: line you know. That you, Know Chris, jenkins to, ME

654
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: i think he's a solid. Player you, know he's a

655
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: second round. PICK i don't think he'll ever be a,

656
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 2: stud BUT i think he could be a, nice solid rotational. Player,

657
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 2: look they SIGNED. Tj. Slayton that tells you a lot right.

658
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: There you, KNOW i think they SIGNED. Tj slayton to

659
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 2: start a detackle on their base. Defense, correct they didn't sign.

660
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: Him they didn't sign him to be a. Backup they

661
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: signed him to be a. Starter and then because they

662
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 2: still HAVE Bj, hill who's quietly a very nice player

663
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: as a base defensive, tackle that Means Chris jenkins is

664
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: not going to play in the base. DEFENSE i, mean

665
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 2: he might get snaps, rotationally but he's not going to

666
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: be one of the main guys in your base. Defense

667
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 2: so they obviously don't see him yet as that, guy.

668
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: But they do want to rotate, guys And i'm sure

669
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: he will get playing with snaps this. Year plus he

670
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: played last year with a broken. Thumb hopefully with two healthy,

671
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: hands he'll be more effective this. Year final question For Great.

672
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: COSEEL i really appreciate all of your. Time The bengals

673
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: are four years removed from Their Super bowl. Appearing it's

674
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: their three years removed from their last trip to THE

675
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: Afc Championship. Game where are The bengals right now in your?

676
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: Mind still a top? Contender are they at a? Crossroads

677
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: how would you classify The bengals going into year? Six

678
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:15,240
Speaker 1: For joe.

679
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 2: Burrow, WELL i would answer that by saying that it's

680
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 2: all function of their, defense because you, know AGAIN i

681
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 2: don't remember the exact stat but weren't there something like

682
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: five or six or games or four games last year

683
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: where they scored thirty three or more points and? Loss

684
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: there was some ridiculous number like. That AM i?

685
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: Right it was three with thirty three plus and FIVE

686
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: i believe with thirty.

687
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: Plus, Yeah so you, KNOW i think we're okay on.

688
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: OFFENSE i Mean i'm not thinking. SARCASTIC i think we're

689
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 2: okay on. Offense you, know the main thing is defense,

690
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 2: here and you, know, look there's a lot a lot

691
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 2: of the players are the. Same so they made a coaching.

692
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,240
Speaker 2: Change you, know that happens when you're you, know it's

693
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 2: and by the, WAY i don't think little lenarm and

694
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: you know him as a bad coach by any. Means

695
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 2: but you, know we know how the league, works and

696
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 2: it didn't Take lou long to get you, know to

697
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 2: get taken up by another. Team so you, KNOW i

698
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 2: think he's a highly respected. Guy but you, know things

699
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 2: do change in the. League so to, me it's a

700
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,479
Speaker 2: function of. Defense so they have to be the best

701
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: defense in the. League, no but no matter how good

702
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 2: your offense, is every once in a, while you got

703
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 2: to win a game twenty. Seventeen that's just the nature

704
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 2: of the. League and to me it speaks to even

705
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 2: how much Greater borrow is than we spoke about the

706
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 2: fact that he probably feels like he has to score

707
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: thirty five every week just to. Compete and that's a

708
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: hard road to hoe every single, week even for someone

709
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 2: Like Joe, burrow you, know who's pretty much unflappable about.

710
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 2: It but to, me it all comes down to the.

711
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 2: Defense you, know they're going to have to be able

712
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: to stop, people and they cannot give up these big.

713
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: Plays that's the, killer you, know every you, KNOW i,

714
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: WAS i was down In tennessee doing a live podcast

715
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 2: AND i got a chance to spend time With Ryan

716
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 2: callahan and all they and you Know brian, well and,

717
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: actually you, KNOW i got to know him well and

718
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 2: we've connected and he's just a terrific, guy as you.

719
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: Know and all they talk about is exposed to plays

720
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 2: on both sides of the, ball you. Know you know

721
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 2: that that's the way coaches, talk and you know there's

722
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 2: just too many exposive plays on. Defense you can't live like.

723
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 3: That.

724
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: GREG i love talking to. You my audience loves hearing from.

725
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: YOU i took a lot of your time AND i

726
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: really appreciate. IT i PROMISE i will not bother you

727
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: again until some point during the. Season it's.

728
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: FINE i love talking with. You we're just talking. Ball you,

729
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: Know it's this is WHAT i. Do it's the off.

730
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 2: Season It's. May i'm Sitting i'm watching. TAPE i, mean

731
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 2: is WHAT i? Do you, Know it's just the nice

732
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 2: thing for me right, now IS i don't have a,

733
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 2: deadline So i'm just sitting if it takes me a

734
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,959
Speaker 2: little longer to watch, something OR i feel like taking

735
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 2: a ten minute. Break it's not, like oh my, GOD

736
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 2: i got to get this, done you know, so which

737
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 2: is the WAY i feel during the, season either the.

738
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 1: Way if you would like to read everything That greg

739
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 1: wrote about this year's draft, prospects do a quick search

740
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 1: For greg coll tape. Notebook you can purchase all one

741
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty six scouting reports for nine to ninety.

742
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: Nine before getting to my next, guest here's a quick

743
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: reminder that The Bengals booth podcast is brought to you

744
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: by Pay, corps proud to be The bengals OFFICIAL hr software,

745
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: provider By Alta fiber future Proof Fiber internet designed to

746
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: elevate your, home, business and community to a new, level

747
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: and By Kettering health the best care for the best.

748
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: Fans Kettering health is the official healthcare provider of The.

749
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: Bengals now time to move on to another edition of

750
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: Five questions with A bengals rookie as we spend a

751
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: few minutes with a player that you could run into

752
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: At King's island. Someday time for Five questions with fourth

753
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 1: round draft Pick Barrett carter out Of. Clemson question number,

754
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: One when you were in high, school you are named

755
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: the national defensive player of the. Year is there a big?

756
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: Banquet do you get a great? Trophy what other rewards

757
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: for being the national defensive player of the year in high?

758
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 4: SCHOOL i got A i got a little. TROPHY i

759
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 4: think that was. It but other than, THAT i MEAN i, think,

760
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 4: Yeah i'm pretty sure that was. It just just a little.

761
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 3: Trophy it's a little.

762
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: One it's not Like heisman.

763
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 4: Size it's Not heisman. Size it's probably probably definitely a

764
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 4: little smaller than. That but, uh something That i'll keep

765
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 4: for the rest of my. Life for.

766
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: Sure it was quite an, honor so that part of

767
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: it was. Great question number two For Barred. CARTER i

768
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: read a scouting report before the draft that, said, quote

769
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 1: he closes on the ball like a ravenous, predator which

770
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: is a very nice. Compliment but my question regards the

771
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: flip side of. That was something written or said before

772
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: the draft that got under your.

773
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 4: Skin, NO i, mean at the end of the, DAY

774
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 4: i didn't REALLY i didn't read into any of. IT i,

775
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 4: MEAN i like to stay inside out with, everything you,

776
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 4: Know i'm not trying to please anybody, else but but

777
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 4: but but myself and my teammates and my. Team you

778
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 4: know that's in this. Organization so nothing THAT i didn't

779
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 4: read it into any of. THAT i JUST i stayed

780
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 4: inside out and just focus on WHAT i can.

781
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: Control smart young. Man question number, three you wore the

782
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 1: number zero At. Clemson The bengals have never had a number.

783
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: Zero did you? Inquire, NO i did.

784
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 4: Not Coach taylor texted me saying there was forty nine

785
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 4: and fifty nine, available and you, KNOW i was just

786
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 4: grateful for this opportunity to be, here SO i wasn't,

787
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 4: gonna you, know try to press that. Anything SO i was,

788
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 4: like let's go forty, nine And i'm Just i'm ready

789
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 4: to make forty nine a new.

790
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: Number you can wear forty. Nine, well question number. Four

791
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: you're a linebacker, obviously but you had a rushing touchdown

792
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 1: as a running back for at least one play At.

793
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: Clemson what was the backstory behind getting the opportunity to

794
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: line up as a running back and score A Tv.

795
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 4: So after my junior, year WHEN i decided to come,

796
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 4: BACK i Told Coach, sweeney, LIKE i need a rushing,

797
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 4: Touchdown LIKE i DON'T i don't care which game it,

798
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 4: is how far down the, season how far down the

799
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 4: line it. Is i'm, LIKE i gotta get the end.

800
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 4: Zone and then our offensive coordinator Coach, Riley i'm, LIKE

801
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 4: i was showing my. Highlights ill show them LIKE i

802
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 4: used to play running. Back i'm, like just give me

803
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 4: one carry And i'm getting the end zone and you

804
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 4: know if fortunately we made it. Happen it was senior

805
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 4: day against The. Citadel it was actually like a fourth

806
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 4: and two at the at the two yard, line SO

807
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 4: i had to get. In but JUST i was super

808
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 4: blessed to you be able to line up by running.

809
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 4: Back we lived in my high school and little league

810
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 4: days and you, know getting the end. Zone but you,

811
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 4: know now time to put running back to bed and you,

812
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 4: know focus fully on.

813
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 1: LINEBACKER i watched the. Highlight there was a nice little.

814
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: SHIMMY i, mean you didn't just run it straight. In

815
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: there was a little shoulder.

816
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 4: DEEK i had, to you, know let my, blockers you,

817
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 4: know set up a little bit and you, know be

818
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 4: patient a little. Bit but, yeah it was a it

819
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 4: was a fun, day all.

820
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: Right fifth and final question For Barreed. CARTER i read

821
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: an old story that said you love roller. Coasters So

822
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: King's island is a little bit north of. Here they've

823
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: got The, beast The Diamond, Head banshee and. Others are

824
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: you aware of the proximity Of King's island and do

825
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: you anticipate going at some?

826
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 4: Point i'm not aware of, it but you, KNOW i definitely,

827
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 4: will you, know take a trip. There you, know my

828
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 4: roller coaster love is you, know started SINCE i was a,

829
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 4: kid and you, Know i'm gonna, continue you, know trying

830
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 4: to trying to visit all these you, know fun amusement.

831
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 4: Parks So i'm definitely gonna check Out King's island and you,

832
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 4: know whatever big bad roller coasters they, Have i'm ready

833
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 4: to attack, that just LIKE i had running backs In No.

834
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 4: Linamas So i'm looking forward to riding that roller coaster

835
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 4: and a definitely in the, offseason though not.

836
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: In not in.

837
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: Season all, Right bengals, Fans so when you get on

838
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: The beast and the guy next to you looks like

839
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: he might be a professional football, player it could Be Barry.

840
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: Carter appreciate your. Time great to have you In, Cincinnati, no,

841
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: sir thank you for having. Me, yeah let's go from

842
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: five questions to five observations after watching The bengals practice

843
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 1: and talking to players and coaches On. Tuesday topic number

844
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: one is the battle at right, guard with Rookie Dylon

845
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: Fairchild penn as the favorite to start at left. Guard

846
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: the starter on the other side is expected to come

847
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: after a training camp battle Between Cody, Ford Lucas, patrick

848
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 1: and some other less likely. Candidates last, Week ford lined

849
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: up with the. Starters this week it Was, patrick AND

850
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: i spoke to the nine year veteran who has started

851
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 1: For Green, Bay, chicago And New orleans after practice going

852
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: into free, agency how much homework did you do on

853
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: teams that had a need at?

854
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 5: GART i was really up to my. AGENT i let

855
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 5: them do the, business and pretty MUCH i handle playing

856
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 5: ball so. Much, YEAH i don't played long enough THAT

857
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 5: i just kind of let my take you the talk

858
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 5: and let him talk to the.

859
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: Teams this team throws the ball a. Lot according To

860
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: Pro Football, focus you haven't given up a sack in?

861
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: Forever is that your? Strength pass?

862
00:42:55,800 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 5: Pro you, know it's if you believe in no, Statistics but,

863
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 5: really ALL i care about is wins and losses and

864
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 5: competing for. Championships so if that helps the, team, great

865
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 5: that's What i'm asked to. Do let's do, it And

866
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 5: i'll work on to the best of my. Ability if

867
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 5: it's something, Else i'll work on.

868
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: That so there's gonna be a royal. Rumble it looks

869
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: like to determine the starter or right. Guard you're running

870
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: with the ones today for what that's worth at this

871
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: stage of the, Year but what is your approach you

872
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: try to win that.

873
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 5: JOB i think healthy competition is the best when you

874
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 5: have it in the. ROOM i, mean you, know there's

875
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 5: a couple of guys who've already been here a while

876
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 5: and they've been nothing but open arms to. Me AND

877
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 5: i can add any Value i've seen on other teams

878
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 5: and try and do. It and, competitions you, know you

879
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 5: can look at it in two different. WAYS i like

880
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 5: to look at his best man. Wins let's push each

881
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 5: other so that, whoever whoever that, is the team's better

882
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 5: because of. It AND i think that's the, healthy in my,

883
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 5: opinion a healthy.

884
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: Mindset where are your impressions Of Scott's peter so? Far

885
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: and is it significantly different from what you've experienced.

886
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 5: In, yeah it's pretty, different but it's almost. Detailed i've

887
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 5: ever been During OTA's which is. Good really get to

888
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 5: hone some new, techniques new, crafts really set the, tone

889
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 5: take the fight to d. Lineman so it's. Fun it's

890
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 5: enjoyable to build a, toolbox especially as a.

891
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: Veteran according To Pro Football, Focus patrick is not allowed

892
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: a sack in eight hundred and sixty three pass blocking

893
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: snaps over the last two. Seasons topic number two is

894
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: his offensive line Mate Cordell. Volson as you may have,

895
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: Read volson agreed to a pay cut recently after a

896
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: season that he describes as. Disappointing after starting at left

897
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: guard for the last three, Years volson can play that

898
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: spot If Dylan fairchild struggles as a, rookie while also

899
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: competing for the starting spot on the right. Side for

900
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: what it's, Worth volson mostly played right tackle and right

901
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 1: guard At North Dakota. State one reason why he agreed

902
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: to the pay cut is his desire to work with

903
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: new offensive line Coach Gott. Peters absolutely, ABSOLUTELY i think you,

904
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: know he does a really.

905
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 6: Good job of of teaching different different strikes and different

906
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 6: techniques to combat different. Rushers you, know that, way you're

907
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 6: not throwing the same pitch every, time you, Know AND

908
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 6: i think that's gonna be beneficial to the whole. ROOM

909
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 6: i Think scott allows us to, play LIKE i talked,

910
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 6: about you, know play more to our skill. Set you,

911
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 6: know he he instills a lot of confidence in. US

912
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 6: i think that he he brings a good, Energy like

913
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 6: we enjoy talking to, him we enjoy going into meetings with.

914
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 6: Him SO i think that that's really. COOL i think.

915
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 6: It you, know it definitely makes.

916
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: Makes my day way more enjoyable for.

917
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 6: Sure you, KNOW i really ENJOYS uh Coach Peter, scott

918
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 6: so just having the opportunity to continue to learn from.

919
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 6: HIM i think he brings a good energy and a

920
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,919
Speaker 6: lot of technique that fits my play style really. Well

921
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 6: just look at his body of, work the things that

922
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 6: he's done with the guys In cleveland and the mon

923
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 6: of guys that played for him last year In New.

924
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 6: England you, know they were kind of got the injury.

925
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 6: Bugs so just seeing the way that he develops, guys you,

926
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 6: know that was a big factor of wanting me, to you,

927
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 6: know stay.

928
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: Here including, Playoffs volsen has started fifty one of a

929
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: possible fifty three games in his three years In. Cincinnati

930
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: topic number three is. Alignment on the other side of the.

931
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: Ball Chris. Jenkins jenkins missed the first two weeks of

932
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: his rookie season after breaking his thumb at. Practice when

933
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: he finally got on the, field he played with a

934
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: giant club on one hand to protect his. Thumb now

935
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: that he's got the use of both, hands will we

936
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: see the player who is worthy of a second round

937
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: draft pick last? Year here's d line Coach Jerry. Montgomery

938
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: we played.

939
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 3: With our hands in order to be productive in the.

940
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 3: Run you got to use your. Hands in order to

941
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 3: be productive as a, rusher you got to use your.

942
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 3: Hands so to not have one of your, tools all,

943
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 3: right it's. Tough, mean like for in the kids' toff

944
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 3: he played through it and he did some good things with.

945
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 3: It imagine if he had both of. THEM i, mean

946
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 3: you know his jump, again IF i always say from

947
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 3: year one to year two should be. BIG i, mean

948
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 3: you've been in the league one, year all, right you

949
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 3: get all the you know the processing out like, now

950
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 3: you know how fast the game, is you know what's,

951
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 3: expected you know how to prepare a little bit. Better

952
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 3: you know how to, study you know how to take

953
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 3: care of your. Body so all those things go into

954
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 3: account of the year, one year, two and especially being

955
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 3: able to have two.

956
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: Hands jenkins was a second Team All american and a

957
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: team captain For michigan's national championship squad two years. Ago

958
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: topic number four is undrafted wide Receiver Jordan moore out Of.

959
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: Duke it seems like every year there's an undrafted wide

960
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: receiver that catches your eye at training, camp and a

961
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: few have earned important roles like To irwin And Alex.

962
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: Erikson moore is a guy to keep an eye on this.

963
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: Year after playing quarterback as a, freshman he had three

964
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: straight seasons with at least fifty five catches and finished

965
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,479
Speaker 1: His duke career with twenty one touchdown. Grabs here's more

966
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: and wide receivers Coach Troy, walters All, Right, jordan what's

967
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: it been like for you to be a rookie receiver

968
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: in a room With jamar and t and Having Joe

969
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: burrow as a.

970
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 7: QUARTERBACK i, mean it's, great and just trying to learn

971
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 7: as much AS i can and obviously have two of

972
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 7: the best of the series in the leads to learn,

973
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 7: from So i'm really just trying to sug up. Everything

974
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 7: watch all their, routes watch how they you, know walk

975
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 7: around the locker room how they conduct themselves and try

976
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 7: to emulate that BECAUSE i, mean if they're the top two,

977
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 7: RECEIVERS i, mean there's so MUCH i can learn from.

978
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: Them tell us why you elected to sign With. CINCINNATI

979
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: i think.

980
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 7: Having The zoom meeting with Coach, WALTERS i, mean our values,

981
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 7: aligned and when we went through the, offense it seemed

982
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 7: like a offense that's friendly to receivers and they do

983
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 7: a lot of different things to get guys. Open so

984
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 7: that's something that intrigued.

985
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: ME i, know you have quarterback in your, background including

986
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: your first year A. Duke how quickly and easily did

987
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: wide receiver come to?

988
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 6: You?

989
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 7: Mentally it came pretty, easy but you, know actually running

990
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 7: routes and, actually you, know being out there at receiver

991
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 7: was it was a lot different THAN i was that.

992
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 7: Quarterback SO i, Mean i'm very grateful for my background

993
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 7: at quarterback to help me in the mental aspect of the.

994
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 7: Game and you, know the physical aspect just takes, work

995
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 7: And i've been working as hard AS i.

996
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: Could you obviously had some great seasons At. Duke were

997
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: you surprised not to be?

998
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 7: DRAFTED i mean they've always told me everybody's always told

999
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 7: me it doesn't matter how you get, here as long

1000
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 7: as you get. Here AND i, mean the draft is.

1001
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 7: Over and as a, kid you always Dreamed bay getting

1002
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 7: drafted with but then it. Happened SO i just got

1003
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 7: to move on and keep.

1004
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 8: Working Number one great young. Man from the TIME i

1005
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 8: called him and zoomed him and we talked some, ball

1006
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 8: got to know. Him he's a a, PLUS a plus

1007
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 8: young man fits our, culture, competitor wants to be, great,

1008
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 8: Coachable So i'm very proud and excited to have him

1009
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 8: as one of our.

1010
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: Guys he was a quarterback his first year At. Duke

1011
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: how far along is he as a wide receiver a

1012
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: couple of years after.

1013
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 8: That he's done a great. Job you couldn't tell that

1014
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 8: he's you, know he's transitioned from quarterback to. Receiver you,

1015
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 8: know he's a good route, runner very technical in terms

1016
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 8: of his his, fundamentals his, techniques understands the. GAME i

1017
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,919
Speaker 8: think the quarterback being a quarterback former quarterback helps him

1018
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 8: in terms of just understanding, coverages understanding what the defense

1019
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 8: is trying to, do understand what the quarterback is thinking

1020
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 8: on every. Play and SO i think that's helped him

1021
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 8: here pick up the offense and he's done a great.

1022
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: Job more was a team captain and was Named DUKE'S

1023
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: mvp last. Year the fifth and final topic Involves Jamar

1024
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: chase AND T. Higgins the weather conditions On tuesday were.

1025
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: Dreary it was rainy and kind of, chilly but after

1026
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: holding part of practice in THE i. E L indoor,

1027
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: facility The bengals moved outdoors to get some reps in

1028
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 1: under the type of conditions they will have to play

1029
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,720
Speaker 1: in at some point during the year in any. Case after,

1030
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: practice a small group of fans waited in the rain

1031
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: in hopes of getting, autographs And jamar And t rewarded

1032
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: their patients by stopping and signing long term contract. Extensions

1033
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: haven't changed them once. Again here's wide receivers Coach Troy.

1034
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 8: Walters they're always, happy excited to have a smile in their.

1035
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 8: Face they love the, game they love to, practice so

1036
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 8: none of that has. Changed BUT i think probably internally

1037
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 8: they'll probably relieved that they got the got the deal.

1038
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 8: Done they can just go play football and there's nothing

1039
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 8: hanging over their heads and they've been. Awesome they understand

1040
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 8: the to who much is, given much is required much as,

1041
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 8: expected and so you, know we're not paying that type

1042
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 8: of money for them to come in and not not,

1043
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 8: produced not be big time, players top top five receivers

1044
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 8: in the. League and so they understand and they're attacking

1045
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 8: it and doing a good.

1046
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: Job that's going to do it for this episode of

1047
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth podcast brought to you by Pay, Core

1048
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: proud to be The Bengals OFFICIAL hr software, provider By

1049
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: Alta fiber future proof Fiber internet designed to elevate your,

1050
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: home business and community to a new, level and By

1051
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: Kettering health the best care for the best. Fans Kettering

1052
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: health is the official healthcare provider of The. Bengals if

1053
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: you haven't done so, already please subscribe to this podcast

1054
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 1: and if you have a, minute give it a rating

1055
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: or share a comment that helps More bengals fans find.

1056
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: Us I'm Dan hord and thanks for listening To The

1057
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 1: Bengals Booth. Podcast