1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Get get up. 2 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: All right, what's up, guys. We're here with another bonus 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: episode and will be Network today. We're talking with Matt 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 2: past Version. Great, great announcement. I mean, we're super excited. 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: To be here. 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 2: Just a guy, give me that. I think it's safe 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: to say, you're pretty good moment. 8 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 3: Can we say great voice? Yeah? 9 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 2: Okay, I'll I was looking through Wikipedia and I don't 10 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: I didn't know this. I don't know if a lot 11 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: of people know this, but you were a child. 12 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 3: Actor and you were in the. 13 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: Candidate with Robert Redford. He was like one of the 14 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 2: greatest actors of all time. 15 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, what was that like? 16 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 4: Well, I pretty much got all his skills from me 17 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 4: on that shot. 18 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 3: I don't have that clear a memory of it. 19 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 4: I was handed into a scene, I delivered my line, 20 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 4: and I was handed out of the scene and I 21 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 4: got a laugh. 22 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 3: And the only reason I. 23 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 4: Got the gig is because I had a squeaky voice 24 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 4: and they were looking for basically a kid to clown on. 25 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 4: And at the time, you don't know, and I was 26 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 4: pretty much a trained you know dude at those things, 27 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 4: and they'd wind you up and say say this, and 28 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 4: you do it, and then you go and you get 29 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 4: a ham sandwich and you go home. 30 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 3: It was fine. 31 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: That's unbelievable that you had a squeaky voice and I 32 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: got you a role. Yeah right, any other crazy child 33 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: acting experiences, memories, people you worked with that you can 34 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: take the what you do now? 35 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 4: No, I you know, I was in an episode of 36 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 4: Streets of San Francisco when I was a kid, which, 37 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 4: by the way, all that stuff's on YouTube now and 38 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 4: I just my son, who's eight, found it was pretty amazing. 39 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 4: And I would eight when I was in that. 40 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 3: Show, so there was something cool for me there. 41 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 4: I was in a scene once with John Ritter on 42 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 4: a sitcom, which was really cool, and he was the 43 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 4: nicest guy you could have ever imagined. But you know, 44 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 4: I was never destined to become an actual actor because 45 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 4: when you get to the age where you're aware of 46 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 4: what you're doing, that's when your chops go away, also 47 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 4: known as the Jerry Mathers syndrome. Leave it to beaver 48 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 4: like he was. He was an actor, but you know, 49 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 4: when he was a little leave it to Beaver guy, 50 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 4: there was some charm about it. And then you get 51 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 4: into those awkward teen years and you're not as you're 52 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 4: too where, so I was never going to go. 53 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: For you also have had quite the career broadcast thing football, 54 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: a bunch of different events. But I want to talk 55 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 2: about the XFL because even though I was really young, 56 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 2: I remember the XFL being this huge deal and you 57 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: were one of the original broadcasters in the XFL. 58 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 4: Well, at first, it was pretty exciting because it was new, 59 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 4: there was a ton of muscle behind it, and NBC 60 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 4: was really committed to making it work. But it was 61 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 4: so ill defined that both of the larger than life 62 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 4: broadcast giants who were in charge of this thing, Vince 63 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 4: McMahon Dick eversall were waiting for the other one to 64 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 4: come down off the mountaintop and say this is what 65 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 4: we'll do and have it work, and nobody really knew 66 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 4: how to make it work. As it turned out, they 67 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 4: should have played a year in anonymity, so the quality 68 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 4: of football was a little bit better. Vince was supposed 69 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 4: to be on the sidelines, and he couldn't resist and 70 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 4: couldn't stand himself, and he was out there front and 71 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 4: center on opening day. They had a massive audience on 72 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 4: that first Saturday game. 73 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 3: Sucked, be sucked. The tech didn't work. 74 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 4: I mean I could go on and on about my 75 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 4: memories from the XFL and it just didn't go the 76 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 4: way it should. And I was so mortified at first 77 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 4: over my involvement in this thing. I was convinced that, 78 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 4: you know, I was being laughed at when I'd go 79 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 4: to Starbucks. I mean, that's how in my head I 80 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 4: got upon that thing failing. 81 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 3: But it was it was a good learning experience. It 82 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 3: really was. 83 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 4: You don't know anything in this business, and tell you 84 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 4: fail miserably, crash and burnstyle, and it does make you 85 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 4: a little bit better, makes you more grateful. 86 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 3: And for those that haven't failed, it's coming for you. 87 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 3: Get ready. 88 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: Are there any other crazy broadcasting jobs in your past 89 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: that you want to point to? Is like, this is 90 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: the wildest thing I did. This was the most risky 91 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: thing I did. Anything just crazy that's happened on your road? 92 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:48,119 Speaker 3: Oh boy. 93 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 4: I mean there were times when I would have, you know, 94 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 4: done a lot of things for that paycheck. 95 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: I did a Harlem Globetrotter's game with our Sinio Hall. 96 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: Wow, actually pretty cool. 97 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 4: Our Sineo had a hard time distinguishing when we went 98 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 4: to commercial when the ball wasn't didn't play and there 99 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 4: was nobody on the court and they said we're going 100 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 4: to break in three two one. 101 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 3: Ursinio was still going Bless his heart. 102 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 4: He was super funny and I regret not having him 103 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 4: do my outgoing voicemail as the Prince from Prince of 104 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 4: Zamunda from now I can't remember the name of the 105 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 4: movie with Eddie Murphy. 106 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 3: Coming to America, Thank you, Thank you. 107 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 4: I did a Rock Paper Scissors contest with Tom Arnold, 108 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 4: Rock Paper Scissors World Championship. 109 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 3: That's right, play by play. Still waiting for the Peabody 110 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 3: Award to come around for that. 111 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 4: It was on Fox Sports Net as much of this 112 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,679 Speaker 4: garbage was back in the early two thousands and nineties. 113 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: And they did three years of working with. 114 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 4: Lawrence Taylor on the tough Man World Championship boxing circuit, which. 115 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 3: Actually was a blast. Oh that sounds a lot of fun. 116 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 4: And LT was one of the funniest human beings that 117 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 4: I've ever been around. Amazing personality, super funny, I mean, 118 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 4: the most feared defensive player in the history of the NFL, 119 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 4: had the most down to earth, awesome personality. I love 120 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 4: being around him. 121 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: He was what was that first interaction with LT? 122 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 4: Like I mean, I can tell you the first I 123 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 4: can tell you the first fight that we ever called. Yeah, 124 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 4: I don't know what kind of language we can use 125 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 4: on this podcast. Language please, right, So here's the story. 126 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 4: So he had never done anything on TV before, and 127 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 4: we're calling a fight and his you know, his color analysis, 128 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 4: his kind of interjections are a little sporadic, and he 129 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 4: doesn't have the energy. 130 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 3: That the director and producer are looking for. So they 131 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 3: get in our ears and they say, hey, LT. 132 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 4: And the fight, by the way, was a normalish looking 133 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 4: guy against a guy that went three point twenty named 134 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 4: the Highlander who wore a skirt. So the little guy 135 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 4: would get on one side of him, punch him there 136 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 4: and then run around him punch him on the other 137 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 4: side of the face. And the highlander was going like 138 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 4: this and by the time. 139 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 3: He put up his dukes. 140 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 4: So the director opens up LT's ears and says, hey, LT, 141 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 4: you know you should talk. 142 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 3: About this islander man. He's like, he's big. Maybe go 143 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: on a diet, lose some way to be a better fighter. 144 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 3: And Elt goes, look at this highlander right here. He's 145 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 3: a big guy. Man, he's too big. And then he 146 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 3: didn't saything else. 147 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 4: And then director got in a zero said what about 148 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 4: like going on the Atkins diet or something, and Elt. 149 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: Goes, yeah, you know that Atkins diet. You know, you 150 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: don't eat no bread, you eat twelve hole chicken. You 151 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 3: ain't going to lose no weight. 152 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 2: And he says it. 153 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 4: It was amazing, and you know that everybody's laughing in 154 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 4: the control room and I'm trying to be like, oh 155 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 4: and We're into the final waiting moments of the and. 156 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: I'm you know, dying. He was awesome, awesome, good dude. Yeah. 157 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: Also saw that you won an episode Supermarket Shuffle Market 158 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: Sweet Sweep. 159 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 3: Yea yeah Network, Yeah, yeah boy. 160 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 4: An image from that has surface too, thanks to our 161 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 4: friends at Vis and Mitch and Polly who do follow the. 162 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 3: Money in the morning. 163 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 4: And man I was cultivating this Eddie Munster look which was. 164 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 3: Just devoid of any grooming skills. 165 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 4: Eyebrows were connecting like full Armenian you know thing going. 166 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 4: We didn't win the big money, but we did get 167 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 4: the shop for the end of the show. 168 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 3: Big prize, and we came one clue short of winning 169 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 3: like fifteen hundred bucks would have been pretty cool. 170 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: As always, I know they brought some of these back 171 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: on either Netflix or Hulu, is. 172 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 3: There, Let's hope not. 173 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 2: Man, I gotta kill that now moving into your current broadcasting, 174 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: but with the padres now, with the Angels, the other 175 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: stuff so much more fun. That might be another episode 176 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: to talk about all those. But you have the famous 177 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: call Santa Maria? Where did that come from? 178 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 3: I wish there was a good story there. 179 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 4: It's an old family friend, uh and the mother, the 180 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 4: matriarch of the family, is this wonderful Italian woman who 181 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 4: would just proclaim Santa Maria for everything from like a 182 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 4: total eclipse of the sun to like you know, dropping 183 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 4: her keys in the sofa cushions sun somebody, and I 184 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 4: did it in the miners. Doesn't really play in you know, 185 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 4: small towns like High Desert. 186 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 3: California and al Paso, Texas. But trying not to overdo it. 187 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 3: But there, no, no, that was it went beyond appreciation there. 188 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 4: But yeah, it's not much of a story, but it 189 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 4: just kind of works, and I try to save it 190 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 4: from when it's you know, meaningful. 191 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: I guess even with the Angels now for a little while, 192 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: you have two of the best players the entire generation, 193 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: Mike Crown in the same team. What's it been like 194 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: just to call their games and even connect with those 195 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: guys as much as you have. 196 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 3: It's it's been fun. 197 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 4: I mean, Mike is as down to earth as any 198 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 4: super duper star athlete will ever be for the rest 199 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 4: of mankind. 200 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 3: He's just a dude. He's Mike from Melville, New Jersey. 201 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 3: He really is. He likes the Eagles, he likes spending time. 202 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 4: With his family, he likes to fish, he likes to 203 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 4: play fantasy football, just like he's right right. 204 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 3: Tommy Fams most hated commissioner ever. But he's a good dude. 205 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 4: Show Hayes a little harder to get close to because 206 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 4: because obviously there's a language barrier, although he speaks I 207 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 4: think a little bit better than some people might understand. 208 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 4: But he's you know, he is on his own program, 209 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 4: and he's got his own way to train, he's got 210 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 4: his own way to warm up. Neither one of those 211 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 4: guys take a lot of VP on the field, so 212 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 4: your access is limited. But it's fun to call games 213 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 4: that are involved in because you really know that any day, 214 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 4: regardless of the matchup, regardless of the bigger implications of 215 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 4: the game, you could see something really great. 216 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: It's kind of the hot new meme going around where 217 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: it's like Mike Trout went three for six or two 218 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: home runs shows Honi pitched seven innings to the home 219 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: run as well, and the Angels lose seven to four. 220 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it stinks. It's not fair. 221 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, the Angels are aware of the 222 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 4: kind of imbalance, if you will, in terms of payroll 223 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 4: and talent. They weren't super deep, so any injuries were 224 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 4: going to hurt him, and that's what happened. I mean, 225 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 4: Mike's only played in seventy percent of the games this year. 226 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 4: You lose Rendon for the season, that was a huge loss. 227 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 4: With Jared Walls for to the second half, like that 228 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 4: was the that's their lineup. 229 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've definitely gone through a bunch. 230 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, talking about the Mets now since we are a 231 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 2: Mets podcast, Yeah, I think about the current team. 232 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 3: It's hard not to love him. 233 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 4: I mean, look, if you didn't play the Mets on 234 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 4: a futures ticket to win the NL or win the 235 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 4: World Series, you probably missed out on an opportunity. Like 236 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 4: they are beyond complete. And the finishing piece for me 237 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 4: was Buck. I mean it didn't take Buck that long 238 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 4: to go back to being manager Buck, where he's paying 239 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 4: attention to every detail, where he is completely involved in 240 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 4: every phase of what happens from the. 241 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 3: Dugout to the clubhouse to the end of the game. 242 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 4: He's the best and that you know, I think a 243 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 4: lot of high priced, talented payrolls need an adult, and 244 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 4: he's the perfect adult. I can't imagine them hiring anybody 245 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 4: else thinking back to the decision to bring him on. So, 246 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 4: I mean, you'd be a fool not to like them 247 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 4: moving forward. And I don't even I can't even tell 248 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 4: you with full confidence they're going to win the division. 249 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 3: I don't think it matters, right, I mean, they're going 250 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 3: to get there. 251 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 4: He liked that first round by for sure, Like I 252 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 4: get that, But I think that either the Mets or 253 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 4: the Braves is completely capable of punching the Dodgers in 254 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 4: the face and moving on. 255 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: So I last year with the Braves, did you ever, 256 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: in your all of your travels, have any attraction with 257 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: Buck on a set or. 258 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've actually called a couple of games together. 259 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 4: We did a postseason game not too long ago, and 260 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 4: he has a way of you know, getting into that 261 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 4: homespun Mississippi state drawl and telling stories, which is great, 262 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 4: and he you know, I think older guys in baseball 263 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 4: and Buck probably felt this a little bit. I think 264 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 4: there's this silent persecution against them because the suggestion is 265 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 4: that they're not saber metrics literate, that they don't get 266 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 4: the new landscape. 267 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 3: Most of them do, and Buck especially does. 268 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 4: He invented some of that stuff as a matter of fact, 269 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 4: So the suggestion that he can't speak analytics and relate 270 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 4: to today's ballplayer is complete hooey. I'm a huge fan and 271 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 4: it's worth rooting for the Mets for him alone. 272 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 3: For me, you know, we're we're super excited. 273 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 2: I mean, we couldn't have come on in a better 274 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 2: year considering everything that's going. 275 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 3: And G's a freak oh. 276 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 4: Coming back from the il he had against the Pirates 277 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 4: the other day. 278 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 3: His number was twelve and a half and he ended 279 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 3: up punching. 280 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 4: Out what thirteen thirteen and five inches five plus kidding me, 281 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 4: he's freak unbelievable. 282 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, We've just gone through so many people here today 283 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: and they all talk about how it's just shocking and 284 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: even watching pitch to pitch, like do you so few 285 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: pitches and so few parts of the plate and to 286 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: still see guys walking out of the box being like, 287 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: well did you see? I think even Jason Delay, who's 288 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: like been like a late season player for the Pirates, 289 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: probably get through the four string catcher heading into the season. 290 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: He swung the mist of the pitch the other day. 291 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: He just like looked and then turned around and went 292 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: to the dugout. 293 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 4: So you can't imagine, Yeah, it's it's I mean, he's 294 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 4: got a whiffle ball in his hands for five innx 295 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 4: and hopefully for the Mets and their fans it's a 296 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 4: whippleball in his hands for more like six and a 297 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 4: third or seven. 298 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: Now, the way that I was first, like I guess, 299 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 2: first found out about you was from playing you know, 300 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: video games. 301 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 3: I'll be the show Baseball Games. 302 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 2: Do you know like about how much people quote you 303 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: from those games? Like I was in the MLV the show. 304 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: I made the show YouTube videos, and like the big 305 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: thing is like, oh when he botches it, Like did 306 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 2: you when you were like recording those that's like such 307 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: an iconic sound formb the show players, did you ever 308 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 2: expect that early? Do you even know that that's a 309 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: big thing? 310 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 3: No, No, I don't know that's a big thing. Yeah. 311 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 4: I did that game for sixteen years. So when I 312 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 4: first started doing that game in two thousand and five, 313 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 4: it was Scully's last year doing it, and they brought 314 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 4: me on as like the third announcer was on the 315 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 4: cover of that Prentice. 316 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 3: It may have been shopping. 317 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 4: It might have been I don't remember exactly who, but 318 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 4: you never think it's going to turn into that. Like, 319 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 4: I'm not a meme worthy guy in my mind. And 320 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 4: the game was fun to do. I was told that 321 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 4: I'm too old to continue doing it, so it's a 322 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 4: wrap after sixteen years. 323 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 3: But it was fun. The people that put that game 324 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 3: together do a really good job. 325 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 4: And you know, you don't know when you record a 326 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 4: sound that it's going to live forever and then it's 327 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 4: going to trigger as often as it does, and sometimes 328 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 4: it's a mistake. 329 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 3: So I'll give you one little story. 330 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 4: Remember Bobby Kelty, left handed hitting outfielder Oakland Boston. 331 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 3: There was a line in the game it red hair. 332 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 4: Yes, so there's a line in the game where I 333 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 4: referred to him as the red headed Bobby Kelty. Not 334 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 4: designed to play every time. Bobby Kelt has a swing 335 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 4: or is put in motion as its fender. But there 336 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 4: was a glitch in the game. So anytime Bobby Kelty's 337 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 4: name came up, it was two and two to the 338 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 4: red headed Bobby Kelty. Here's the pitch to the red 339 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 4: headed Bobby Kelty, right. 340 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 3: So it was a total glitch and I felt weird 341 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 3: about it. 342 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 4: I remember calling a game I was working for the 343 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 4: Podres at the time, and he was in town with 344 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 4: the visiting team. Whether it was Oakland or Boston, I 345 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 4: forget at that time, and I went up to him 346 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 4: and I kind of was like, hey, man, I'm Matt. 347 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 4: I voiced this game, and I tell him the whole 348 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 4: story about the glitch. He looked at me like I 349 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 4: had a horn grown out of my head. Had no 350 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 4: idea what I was talking about. He's like, yeah, bro, 351 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 4: it's great, I gotta go hit. 352 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 3: I had no idea. So I was like, okay, well 353 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: he's not bothered by it. I shouldn't be. 354 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 4: Did you ever play the game at all? Like I 355 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 4: used to play it a lot. After they fired me, 356 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 4: I couldn't stand playing with me. 357 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 3: No, I'm kidding, it would blame me. 358 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 4: It became complicated to me to the point where I 359 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 4: didn't have the time to dedicate to relearning the game. 360 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 4: Every year, a lot of kids are totally into it, 361 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 4: and I love that. For me, it was in fact 362 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 4: that the last time I played it really seriously was 363 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 4: when it was on the oh Man, I can't remember 364 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 4: the name of the handheld. 365 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 3: The PSP right. 366 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 4: I loved it because I was still working for the 367 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 4: podres and on the charter we were turned on the 368 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 4: wireless function. 369 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 3: I would play against guys on the team. 370 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 4: Who had a PSP and it was pretty cool, like, 371 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 4: you know, to beat whoever it was, Trevor Hoffman or 372 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 4: like at the game that I voiced. 373 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to get one quick question because I 374 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: know you're busy today. So obviously we had the COVID 375 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: season and everything was remote and now everything's starting to 376 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: get back to normal. Was there anything that you learned 377 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 2: from the COVID season that you feel like you've been 378 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 2: able to apply to commentating now? 379 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question. 380 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 4: There actually was, because I felt like I worked a 381 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 4: little bit harder during the COVID so he used to 382 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 4: be honest, you didn't have you couldn't take things for granted. 383 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: So if I wanted to ask a question to somebody. 384 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 4: Instead of just thinking, oh, i'll see him at the ballpark, 385 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 4: you'd have to make an effort to reach out to 386 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 4: that person, whether. 387 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 3: It was a hitting coach or a pitching coach or whomever. 388 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 4: I actually created some new relationships because I had to 389 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 4: be a little bit more proactive, and I guess it 390 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 4: brought like the reporter aspect in my job out, which 391 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 4: I had previously kind of disregarded because I don't consider 392 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 4: myself a reporter per se. But you had to go 393 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 4: there and I learned a little bit during that. 394 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: Have there been any additional hurdles since you guys have 395 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: access again to building relationships with players, maybe falling off 396 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: the players, like any kind of that muscle go away 397 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: in the year Lost. 398 00:16:58,640 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 3: No, not really. 399 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 4: I think I've changed a little bit in that because 400 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 4: of protocols and because we the dirty, filthy, unwashed media 401 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 4: are still supposed to wear masks in the clubhouse around 402 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 4: most teams. I just don't go in there anymore. Yeah, 403 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,719 Speaker 4: And really they don't want us in there anyway. And 404 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 4: it's okay because we can do our jobs just by 405 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 4: getting access to guys when they come out on the field, 406 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 4: and I feel like. 407 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 3: That should be protocol. I feel like that should be 408 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 3: their space. 409 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 4: I know that other reporters are going to look at 410 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 4: me like I'm an idiot, and I get it, you're 411 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 4: doing your job, but I personally feel like the clubhouse 412 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 4: should be a sanctuary for players only. 413 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 3: We should have access to them in other spots. 414 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 2: I kind of agree with that. 415 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 3: I like that. 416 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 2: I think that's a good take, and I think that's 417 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: a perfect way for us to end it. You know 418 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 2: you're busy today. Thank you so much for taking this 419 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 2: time and doing the episode and pert that fast ursion. 420 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: Thank you, guys. 421 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 3: Get up, Get Up.