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Speaker 1: From the Rams studio connected by AT and T. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Between the Horns. It is December thirteenth, but eleven

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Speaker 1: am Pacific time here in Los Angeles, and the Rams

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Speaker 1: are now nine and four. They fell to the Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: Eagles forty three to thirty five, a final score that

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Speaker 1: sort of annoys me because it really should have been

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Speaker 1: thirty seven thirty five, DeMarco. But the Rams are still

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Speaker 1: in first place in the NFC West by a game,

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Speaker 1: and this is one of the biggest games that the

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Speaker 1: Rams have had over the last decade, really now going

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Speaker 1: up to Seattle. So but before we really get going,

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Speaker 1: I do want to take a second to mention, because

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Speaker 1: we were not on the air last week due to

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Speaker 1: the wildfires, that you sincerely hope that you and yours

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Speaker 1: are all safe, that your family is all right, because

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Speaker 1: I know that this is some serious stuff going on

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Speaker 1: here yea in Southern Kelis. It's really it's touching a

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Speaker 1: lot of lives right now. So yeah, a lot of

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Speaker 1: things have been affected. I mean, football is just a game.

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Speaker 1: That's it is that's real, that is real, and that's

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Speaker 1: obviously more important than what we're doing right now. But

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Speaker 1: this game that happened on Sunday, you know, between the

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Speaker 1: Rams and Eagles. I think Jared Goff put it really

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Speaker 1: well post game when he said, these two teams feel

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Speaker 1: very even if we played ten times, you might come

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Speaker 1: out fifty fifty. Yeah, a lot of respect on both sides. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: post game, I mean I bet there was a lot pregame,

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Speaker 1: but evenly matched. I mean Philadelphia was as good as

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Speaker 1: advertised and the Rams I definitely showed some heart coming

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Speaker 1: back and getting back in that football game and taking

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Speaker 1: the lead, having a chance to win, and you know, look,

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Speaker 1: championship heart. We talked about it, best best team on

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Speaker 1: game day. He who makes the fewest mistakes will win

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Speaker 1: that game. So you know, Chris Long getting the ball

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Speaker 1: out in that key situation, just stripping Jared Goff, I

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Speaker 1: mean you have to tip your cap there. If that

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Speaker 1: doesn't happen, I'm convinced the Rams probably go down the

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Speaker 1: field and score. There was a lot of heart, a

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Speaker 1: lot of intestinal fortitude so to speak, being shown in

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Speaker 1: that game. Andrew Witworth coming back from injury, Rob Havenstein

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Speaker 1: going down getting back up. Alec Ogletree gave you everything

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Speaker 1: he had in that football game. I mean there was

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Speaker 1: a lot to be proud of. So one team has

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Speaker 1: to win, one team had to lose. Um, going up

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Speaker 1: the tunnel after the game, you couldn't tell who won

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Speaker 1: or lost. It was just that punishing on both sides. Well,

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Speaker 1: it was a physical game, and I think it was

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Speaker 1: because it was so even I don't and because Seattle loss.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like you don't feel as bad as you

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Speaker 1: would have, you know, losing that game, because it was

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Speaker 1: so close, and because you know that if a couple

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Speaker 1: of different things happen, Like people say this all the time,

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Speaker 1: like a game is often decided by a couple players

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Speaker 1: and it can turn in da da dada da, and

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Speaker 1: it is Yeah. I think this is one game in

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Speaker 1: particular where you can point to a couple of spots

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Speaker 1: and you can say, yeah, this game really could have

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Speaker 1: gone either way. Oh absolutely. Um. You know I think

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Speaker 1: we said on the pregame show, last possession will probably

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Speaker 1: win this football game. And it came down to that.

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Speaker 1: Now you had one second on the clock to get

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Speaker 1: it on. I mean that after that fair catch. But

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Speaker 1: you know, it is what it is. But you know,

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Speaker 1: it was a tough matchup. I thought the Rams did

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Speaker 1: a great job defensively with their depth. I mean they

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Speaker 1: lost a lot of people along the way. I mean

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Speaker 1: them sewed up and you made it a tough football

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Speaker 1: game for them. You're not Carson Wentz out of the game.

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Speaker 1: No one wants to see a guy done for the year.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, this was a guy that was torturing

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Speaker 1: the way it goes. I mean, they're gonna be coming

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Speaker 1: This is not for the faint at heart. No it's not.

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Speaker 1: And that was really the unfortunate thing you have to

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Speaker 1: So some of his passes were a little bit off.

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Speaker 1: You might have had some chances for takeaways there on

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Speaker 1: it and that pretty much sealed it for you. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's like you said, it was a whale

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Speaker 1: of a football game. But this is what good teams do.

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Speaker 1: by the way, the silver lining is Seattle lost. We

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Speaker 1: still have a chance for first place, We still have

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Speaker 1: a chance to accomplish everything we want to accomplish next week.

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Speaker 1: Only good teams can say that. So, yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: tough loss, but you can move on from a little

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Speaker 1: bit faster. When you have nine wins mid December. I

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Speaker 1: think that's a really good point because the Rams have

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Speaker 1: set themselves up so well to play football beyond the

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Speaker 1: end of the regular season. It's not like losing that

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Speaker 1: game to the Eagles was the end of the world,

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Speaker 1: right for some teams, it would have been, right, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you could have your playoff dreams could have ended right

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Speaker 1: there in the coliseum. No, you have another shot because

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Speaker 1: of what you've done early, right, and that's very important.

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Speaker 1: But there were a number of kind of critical errors

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Speaker 1: to me, that was kind of the biggest difference, especially

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Speaker 1: and those are the kinds of things that good teams

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Speaker 1: will always take advantage of. Absolutely, there was one play

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Speaker 1: diving play. On a diving play, now, I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: an impossible ass to make that play, but those are

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Speaker 1: the plays you need to come up with against teams

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Speaker 1: those pis and those defensive penalties, they're untimely. They give

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Speaker 1: the offense a chance to regroup. You're tired. There's nothing

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Speaker 1: worse than when you think as a defender on third down,

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Speaker 1: first down again. It's hard to regroup. Physically, you're out

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Speaker 1: play eighty five snaps, right, Yeah, that one penalty probably

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Speaker 1: mean you played two games in one game because of

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Speaker 1: almost inevitable that the unit is going to lose a

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Speaker 1: And that's why I was so impressed. That's why I

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Speaker 1: There's a lot to be happy with, even with the guys,

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Speaker 1: because they have basically elite level talent I think, at

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Speaker 1: you saw Trey Burton do some really impressive things. Yes,

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Speaker 1: But Philadelphia via is where it is in the in

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Speaker 1: in Seattle is going to say something about the MVP race.

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Speaker 1: But from what I saw and what I saw going

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Speaker 1: into that game last Sunday, it would be Carson Wentz's MVP. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He has been playing lights out ball. He has been,

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Speaker 1: a perfect compliment to Tchermaine Johnson and perfect for what

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Speaker 1: Wade Phillips wants to do defensively. Right, So without him,

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Speaker 1: splitting those two defenders. Well, when you see the way

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Speaker 1: that we talked about this pregame, when you see the

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Speaker 1: way the Eagles line up and play defense, they're daring

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Speaker 1: you to run. What they're saying the wide nine technique. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean we're saying that our dbs are safeties in particular,

433
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Speaker 1: are better tacklers than your runner is than your running

434
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Speaker 1: back is a better runner. Well, okay, I'll take that

435
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Speaker 1: bet with Todd Gurley. I will too. I'm even against

436
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Speaker 1: a guy like Rodney McLeod, who we respect, Yeah, and

437
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Speaker 1: Malcolm James absolutely, I think I take that bet versus

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Speaker 1: Todd Gurley. If even if you get him on the

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Speaker 1: first two carries, let's see how you do on ten

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Speaker 1: and twelve with the same plays. I bet you he's

441
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Speaker 1: gonna make you miss more times than not. And that's

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Speaker 1: what happened. Yeah, exactly. But again, Todd Gurley is a

443
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Speaker 1: guy that I think we keep talking about, and he's

444
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Speaker 1: somebody that has clearly had a ton of production in

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Speaker 1: this season. And now one of the talking points that

446
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Speaker 1: has come up with the l A. Rams is okay

447
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Speaker 1: is Todd Gurley. I don't want to say being misused,

448
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Speaker 1: but like, can you get even more Todd Gurley? And

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Speaker 1: I guess so I'll start this part of Between the

450
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Speaker 1: Horns by asking you do you think there's even more

451
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Speaker 1: left for time? Absolutely? If the game dictates it, so

452
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Speaker 1: be it. Now. I remember God September October, we were

453
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Speaker 1: using him too much, sure, and now it's we're not

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Speaker 1: using them enough. You can't win as a coach or

455
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Speaker 1: a play caller. But this is when I go back

456
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Speaker 1: to takeaways. Even on that takeaway, that that drive, that

457
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Speaker 1: gotta have it with the lead drive. If you don't

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Speaker 1: get the takeaway, if Chris Long doesn't make that play,

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Speaker 1: I bet he gets five or six carries on that drive.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. Yeah, so, or at least five

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Speaker 1: or six more touches. So it's not like they're not

462
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Speaker 1: calling his number. They are. It was his usage was

463
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Speaker 1: about right it's just the takeaway short circuit at everything

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Speaker 1: it does, it did, and I think when you look

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Speaker 1: at just his usage in general, so girly as the

466
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Speaker 1: second most touches in the league two eighty seven, it's

467
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Speaker 1: got these second most yards from scrimmage sixteen thirty seven,

468
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Speaker 1: third most rushing yards thousand and thirty five. It's only

469
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Speaker 1: ten from Kareem Hunt, who's who's second in the league.

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Speaker 1: And you've also got somebody who I don't know. He's

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Speaker 1: become a dynamic pass receiver as well, and you see

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Speaker 1: him getting all these touches in these games. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's got ten games with over one hundred yards from scrimmage, right,

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Speaker 1: And so it's sort of in. The Rams are scoring,

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Speaker 1: you know, over thirty points a game. So it's almost

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Speaker 1: hard to complain about the way the play calling is.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like it's so hard. I hear a

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Speaker 1: lot of complay right, but when no, But I think

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Speaker 1: it's interesting because Todd Gurley has thirteen rushes for ninety

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Speaker 1: six yards, and part of this. McVeigh has said part

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Speaker 1: of that is because the Rams only had forty five plays,

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Speaker 1: and I think you're absolutely right that part of it

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Speaker 1: is also because the Rams had that giveaway in the

484
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Speaker 1: fourth quarter, you still kind of look at it and

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Speaker 1: you kind of go, wait a minute, there's something more

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Speaker 1: that can be had here. Well, it's it's I mean,

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Speaker 1: what I've read and what I've heard is the magic number.

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Speaker 1: Is it twenty twenty plus you win? Yeah, okay, well

489
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Speaker 1: it's not just turnaround and hand it to them twenty

490
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Speaker 1: times and you win the game magically. Yes, you have

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Speaker 1: to set things up. You're you're you're going for balance

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Speaker 1: as an offense because what balance does is it keeps

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Speaker 1: the defense off balance. Well, not only is it balance,

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Speaker 1: but it's also and McVeigh has addressed this, it's about

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Speaker 1: being aggressive in ways that will help you move the

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Speaker 1: football down the field. Yeah, so you're always going to

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Speaker 1: try to take the best approach to moving the football

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Speaker 1: down the field, whether that's running it or passing it,

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Speaker 1: whatever you feel is best in that situation. And remember

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Speaker 1: it's a chess game out there, because when you are

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Speaker 1: balanced and you keep the defense off balance and then

502
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Speaker 1: you start getting tells or they start getting fatigued, then

503
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Speaker 1: you can start slamming the ball at them if they

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Speaker 1: can't stop the run. That day with Todd Gurley or

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Speaker 1: if they're weak in pass coverage, you might call six

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Speaker 1: straight passes in a row. But what saw that against

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Speaker 1: New Orleans exactly? But what you want to do to

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Speaker 1: at least get that going is attacked with balance. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what you're running, where you're running. It could

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Speaker 1: be a screen, it could be this could be that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I'm all over you know what, trying to cover you.

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Speaker 1: And then eventually, as the game wears on, I'll start

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Speaker 1: to tell you when I'm in by my body language

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Speaker 1: or fatigue or I've seen all your plays, and then

515
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Speaker 1: you start to attack weaknesses. That's how football is played, right.

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Speaker 1: I think the perfect example of that that I think

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Speaker 1: we saw this year was Week seven against the Arizona Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: where the Rams were able to sort of get out

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Speaker 1: to that lead, They got takeaways, they extended the lead,

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Speaker 1: and then in the fourth quarter, Yeah, you see him

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Speaker 1: just start bludgeoning the Cartnert to run and then it

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Speaker 1: finishes with that I think eighteen yard pass screen passed

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Speaker 1: to Cooper Cup for a touchdown that seals the game.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, I mean, look, I just if you

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Speaker 1: watch and see what Jacksonville did when they the minute

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Speaker 1: they figured out Bobby Wagner wasn't Bobby Wagner today, they

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Speaker 1: just kept running the ball. Yeah, okay, go back to

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Speaker 1: Arizona when the Rams were down there, when they figured

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Speaker 1: out that alec Ogletree was having difficulty in there, they

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Speaker 1: just started running the football. So the only way you're

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Speaker 1: going to know is to remain balance, stay on the field,

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Speaker 1: and then start to figure out, oh, he can't cover today.

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Speaker 1: Oh they can't stop it over here. Then you start

534
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Speaker 1: to let's pick Todd up, Let's pick Cooper Cup over here.

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Speaker 1: Now we can just start playing man on man football.

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Speaker 1: He can't cover Sammy Watkins. How do we know that?

537
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Speaker 1: Because we remain balanced and we know this, our information

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Speaker 1: tells us we can make plays over here. It's interesting

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Speaker 1: and when mcvas says we didn't get the plays, part

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Speaker 1: of that, you know, and he even say this, I

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Speaker 1: think is all right, it's not it's kind of an excuse.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a reason why things happen. But you know,

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Speaker 1: you don't extend drives with third down conversions. I think

544
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Speaker 1: the Rams only had two throughout the entire game, so

545
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Speaker 1: that that's part of it too. But if you only

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Speaker 1: get forty five plays. You can't really do what you're

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Speaker 1: talking about, right, which is get balanced, stay balanced, and

548
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Speaker 1: you're not that figure out what the defense is doing

549
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Speaker 1: to try to stop you from accomplishing your goal. Yeah,

550
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Speaker 1: you're a big play offense in the system. You're just

551
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Speaker 1: not a drop back and flip the field because you

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Speaker 1: have Randy Moss. Yeah, that's not who you are. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you're going to need plays to move down the field, right,

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Speaker 1: So when set things up for those longer plays, right,

555
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Speaker 1: and when takeaways happen, it robs you of that. And

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought up the third down um. Third

557
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Speaker 1: down has been a little concerning as of late. But

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Speaker 1: season why our season totals, You're okay, you're in the

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Speaker 1: top ten. I believe third down conversions, but as of late,

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Speaker 1: it's been a little concerning to me. That goes back

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Speaker 1: to protection and who you're playing and who's not on

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Speaker 1: the field too. True, Rocker Woods has not been there,

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Speaker 1: and I think that makes a difference even if he

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Speaker 1: is there. With some of the heat that's been getting

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Speaker 1: to Jared Goff as of like, now, remember who you're playing, yes,

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Speaker 1: and the guys that were coming after you. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's it's going up. Fletcher Cox is a lead on anybody. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: absolutely anybody. And just look if you can map out

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Speaker 1: the third downs for the last three games, look at

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Speaker 1: the defenses they play and the guys that were coming

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Speaker 1: after you. So that's that's been the difference. Robert Woods

572
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Speaker 1: would help, but I think it's been more of a

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Speaker 1: protection issue. Yeah, pressure issue on Jared Goff. That's forced

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Speaker 1: your third and longs to be third and hurry up

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Speaker 1: to get it out. Yeah, and that's gonna be definitely

576
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Speaker 1: something to monitor this week is the Rams play the Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: I do want to sort of get to what McVay

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Speaker 1: said about there's Todd Gurley carry in our segment called

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Speaker 1: reading where I read Sean mcvain. But he did say that,

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Speaker 1: you know, McVay said on Monday that, you know, he

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Speaker 1: started the second half wanting to get Todd Gurley going.

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Speaker 1: And I think it was Rich Hammond from Southern California

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Speaker 1: News Group that was, like you tweeted during the game,

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Speaker 1: Sean McVay unlocked the girly feature at halftime, unlocked the

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Speaker 1: girly feature. Wow, okay, because I mean you came out,

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Speaker 1: you ran it with Todd Gurley. You ran it with

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Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, had a screen to Todd, and then eventually

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Speaker 1: you score a touchdown. And so McVay said, I'm basically

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Speaker 1: about generally about the run game. He said, anytime we're

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Speaker 1: running the football like that, I've got to do a

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Speaker 1: better job of making sure that he Todd Gurley gets

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Speaker 1: enough touches to get into the flow, especially when we're

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Speaker 1: getting some good movement. But it is a delicate balance.

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Speaker 1: And then I think everything is a little bit more magnified.

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Speaker 1: And he's talking about because you didn't get more than

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Speaker 1: forty five plays. So at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: however you want to cut it, I've got to get

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Speaker 1: him going, give him more opportunities with the way he

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00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: was running it, and have a better feel for the

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Speaker 1: flow of the game. That was something that I didn't

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Speaker 1: think I did very well yesterday. So that's part of

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Speaker 1: what he said. And then then he kept talking, you know,

603
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: there are more questions about it, and he said, you

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Speaker 1: can't keep standing up here and saying the same things.

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Speaker 1: You've just got to get it fixed. That's something I

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Speaker 1: have to be mindful of. And so this is the thing,

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Speaker 1: This is the thing that we've continually heard from Sean

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Speaker 1: mcvayh the entire season, right, like he's putting the blame

609
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Speaker 1: on himself and everything. But I think that that was

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Speaker 1: sort of the most emphatic he's been in the last

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks about Todd Gurley, the touches in that

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Speaker 1: entire issue of the run game in established. Welcome to December,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Everything you do is going to be questioned, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean this is a learning experience for him too,

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Speaker 1: the first time head coach, first time in December, first

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Speaker 1: time with nine wins. When you have to answer monotonous questions,

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Speaker 1: I'll say, see Bill Belichick. Really, I hope John mca no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just saying, see Bill Belichick. I mean

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Speaker 1: he had to answer questions about a loss to Miami. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you see the way he responded. Yeah, it's no fun.

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Speaker 1: Everything's magnified. Everybody's looking for a story. It is what

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Speaker 1: it is. This is December football. So the one thing

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Speaker 1: is you can't let it affect you your play calling

624
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Speaker 1: or your team. Just answer and move on. Yeah. Yeah,

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00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: I mean you look everyone, and I don't think it will, right,

626
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Speaker 1: What do you mean I don't think it will affect

627
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Speaker 1: the way he is calling players or whatnot, because, as

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Speaker 1: he was saying, like, we're always going to try to

629
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Speaker 1: be aggressive, and we're always going to try to be

630
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Speaker 1: the best that we can be in terms of figuring

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Speaker 1: out the way that we can move the ball down

632
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Speaker 1: the field most efficient way possible. And so like in

633
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Speaker 1: that game against the Eagles, the Rams just before two

634
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Speaker 1: minutes left in the second quarter had a run pass

635
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Speaker 1: balance I think of seventeen pass plays to six runs,

636
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Speaker 1: which is a little bit off considering how like Todd

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Speaker 1: Grill right, well, yeah, you're coming back from you know,

638
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Speaker 1: being down twenty one seven, so that's definitely part of it.

639
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: But again, I just think it's interesting that, you know,

640
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: we're talking about a team that's scoring thirty and a

641
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: half points per game, that put up thirty five points. Yeah,

642
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: and it's still this talking point. Wait, there's seems like

643
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: there's more out there. You know. Well, you've been the

644
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: football before, right, Thanksgiving whatever, you you know. Yeah, And

645
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: I don't really like going to football parties anymore. We'll

646
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: sitting around with people that like to second guess coaching.

647
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: I love this, right, they only call it out when

648
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: they say, that's not the play they would have run. Okay, yeah,

649
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: if the play they're thinking in their head, let the

650
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: RAMS should do this right now, and they run that

651
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: exact play and they get stuffed. You never hear from

652
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: that guy, you know what I mean. You never hear

653
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: from that guy only when it's success or like ultimate failure. Yeah,

654
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: they should have did this or that's the play I

655
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: would have called. So hey, look, it's the flow of

656
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: the football game. Every game, every snap is its own

657
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: little world, only own little universe. Sound like Greg Williams,

658
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: I'm being dead serious. Now, it's one snap and clear.

659
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a it's a short really, it's

660
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: like six seconds long, but it seems like it's it's

661
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: an eternity. It does and whatever happens on that play

662
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: determines what happens next. So either play calling or how

663
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: you play it, so you have to stay within the

664
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: flow of the game, you do. And I think that's

665
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: one thing. It's easy to extrapolate numbers at the end

666
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: and say aha, yes, yeah, of course. And that's one

667
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: thing that you know, nobody ever is in that pressure

668
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: situation where you're on the headset, you're calling plays right, Like,

669
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: it's much much easier for me in the press box

670
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: sitting there typing on my laptop to be like, why

671
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: are they not running to And don't get me wrong,

672
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: I'm not going after anybody, but the head coach and

673
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: the players know something that no one else knows the

674
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: condition of his own guys. Yes, yeah, I want to

675
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: do this. Well, we can't do that right now, right, Okay,

676
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: Well we'll have to call this until we're ready. Well see,

677
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: but that's something that McVay said he also has to

678
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: do better talking about the strip sack that Chris Long

679
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: had and Rodney McLoud recovered and which sidebar it was

680
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: kind of funny. I asked Todd Gurley about that after

681
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: the game and he was like, yeah, I don't really

682
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: remember what happened on that play, but it was kind

683
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: of like a Rams family reunion out there because you

684
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: calling they nick Foles, yeah whatever on the other side.

685
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's sort of interesting. But mcvayh even said,

686
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: you know, I have to be more situationally aware as

687
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: a play caller when calling play action deep ball with

688
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: a right to tackle that had been playing left tackle

689
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: earlier in the game. And it's a second play in there,

690
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: you know, coming in for an injured guy. God, he's

691
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: so smart, it is because that's I mean, he's telling you,

692
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: he's giving you the exact right answer. But there's actually

693
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: a coaching point like, who should really know that? What

694
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: do you mean everything mcveighs just said, who should really

695
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: know that? Be aware of that? The players, the quarterback,

696
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's deep ball, got a backup, right tackle,

697
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: get rid of them. There's a former second pick in

698
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: the draft over there at left end. We're dropping back

699
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: to seven. You might want to start climbing the pocket,

700
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: just saying okay, yeah, I mean that's that's the coaching point. Yeah. Interesting, Yeah,

701
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: I mean you can take it on yourself if you

702
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: want it. But the guy who's out there in the

703
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: helmet should know the same things, you know. Okay, Yeah,

704
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Okay, I think that makes a

705
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: lot of sense. Yeah, And that's one I mean, it's

706
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: probably one reason why Jared Goff said in his postgame

707
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: press conference he was told that McVeigh said the situation

708
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: really aware thing, and Jared goes, yeah, you told me

709
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: the same thing. But he shouldn't do that, you know,

710
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: Once the play comes in, it's my responsibility to make

711
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: sure that we execute it. Oh yeah, that's what he

712
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: is as the quarterback. God oh man Miles. I can

713
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: remember like being coached to like try to anchor down

714
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: on a double team. Know, an anchor down on the

715
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: double team means it means that you're just basically hunkering

716
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: down and you're trying to keep those guys in the

717
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: same spot from take it on, drop my hip to

718
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: the ground and not give ground on a double team. Yeah,

719
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: that's what I've been coached to do. What's in front

720
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: of me is an eight hundred pound double team. Oh,

721
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: there's no way in the world I can do what

722
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: you want me to do in this situation. Now, it's

723
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: up to me as a football player to get the

724
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: job done, figure out a way to get it done,

725
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: or just know what's in front of you. Yeah. Yeah,

726
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: So it can't be all the coach has to tell

727
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: you everything about situational football. At some point, it's on

728
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: you as the player. I think that's that's like life, right, Yeah,

729
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: in some point you got to be able to take

730
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: on things yourself. Yeah, and know what things are and

731
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: just have some common sense and yeah, today like bleep it.

732
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to figure it out. Yeah, I mean, look

733
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: a curse once Russell Wilson two of the best at

734
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: finding ways to stay alive in the pocket. Yeah, right,

735
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: that that situational awareness of who's rushing versus who's blocking,

736
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: and what play do we have on and what might

737
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: happen in this situation. That's all stuff that needs to

738
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: go on on the field, not just from one guy

739
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: on the sideline. Yeah. One thing, One more thing about

740
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley. The hurdle that he had in that game.

741
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: I thought it was one of his best hurdles, maybe

742
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 1: only second to the one he had against Washington earlier

743
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: this year where he hurdled the guy then like got

744
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 1: into the end zone somehow, which that play was, yeah, incredible. Well,

745
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: but the hurdle he had in this game, which I

746
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: think came like two plays before that strip sack, like

747
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: he cleaned, hurdles the guy and keeps running. It was

748
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: like Jenkins was nothing. It was. That to me just

749
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: shows so much about his athleticism. Yeah. I mean, of

750
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: the backs that I've seen and maybe some guys in

751
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: the AFC that we don't talk about every single day,

752
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: but the two most exciting running backs I've seen this

753
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: year up close, Todd Gurley and Alvin Kamara. I knew

754
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 1: you're gonna say, mar Wow. Just the stuff they're doing

755
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: physically is unbelievable. It is so if I'm on their team,

756
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: either the Saints or the Rams, the last thing I

757
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: want to do as a receiver, a tackle, a quarterback, anybody,

758
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: is make a mistake so that I'm taking this guy

759
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: off the field. This guy is a home run a second. Yeah,

760
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: and he's he's an eyelash away on almost every single play. Yeah.

761
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: All you're trying to do is set him up for

762
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: another run. So when he's playing like that, stay on

763
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: the field. Eventually he's going to get you in the

764
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: box exactly. And that's something that I think we've just

765
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 1: seen all the year. It's nice to see the Rams

766
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: run their offense through. Todd Gurley again mentioned this a

767
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: little bit earlier, but he has reached a thousand yards

768
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: rushing now for the second time in his career, and

769
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: I think that is still a pretty good that's a

770
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: really good accomplishment for any running back, especially in today's NFL,

771
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: which can be kind of pass happy. True. I mean, look,

772
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: a thousand yards isn't what it used to be, but

773
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: it's still effective. When you have one guy rushed the

774
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: football for a thousand yards, I would say your offense

775
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: is doing pretty well even if you stink, Even if

776
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: you're a bad offense with are seven and ninety with

777
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: a with a losing record, if you have a thousand

778
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: yard back, you're at least competitive every single Sunday. Right, Yeah, well,

779
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: this back is competitive more than that is nine and four.

780
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: So let's kind of reset for a second. Um, talk

781
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: about a couple of injuries. Um, true, excuse me. True.

782
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 1: Johnson is not in the concussion protocol as was announced,

783
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: which is definitely good news. So that is probably really

784
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: positive for him to potentially play on Sunday, and he

785
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: would most likely be covering Doug Baldwin most of the game.

786
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's their number one guy. But he

787
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: had a stinger that he suffered on that hit. I

788
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: think it was to Trey Burton on that big third

789
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: down that Nick Foles made. As good of a pass

790
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: is I think he's made. Can I remember, he'll be

791
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: covering Baldwin if he's outside the numbers, Okay, if he's

792
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: in the slot, it's gonna be somebody else. It's probably

793
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: gonna be really good job, right, Um Whitworth, Havenstein. They

794
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: have new injuries, but they're expected to play. According to McVeigh,

795
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: the ram's practice schedule for today Wednesday is actually not

796
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: a practice anymore. They did this kind of last week

797
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: because of the fires and the fires that were going

798
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: on in Ventura County. The air quality wasn't as good,

799
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: so they practiced inside at Kowlou, but instead they kind

800
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: of like that schedule. So especially you know, you're getting

801
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: late in the year, guys have as you like to

802
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: call them ouchies or boo boos. So they're letting those

803
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: guys kind of heal up a little bit, and so

804
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: that's going to be good to You're gonna play a

805
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: physical game against Seattle. Yeah, you know, you're right. Every

806
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: day for a living, right I do. Can you imagine

807
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: taking a typing class every day at eight thirty in

808
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: the morning. No, that sounds horrible. December football, you know

809
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: for some guys. Okay, it's like typing class for you. Yeah,

810
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: I know this stuff already. I know what Andrew Whitworth. Yeah, yeah,

811
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: what you need right now is a good off your

812
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: feet and just go recover. Yeah, yeah, the mental stuff

813
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 1: you've already got. You haven't made a mistake in six weeks.

814
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: You're fine, and we're not putting anything new for you.

815
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: You're good rest. So I love these sort of days

816
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: for good football team. Yeah. And the other thing that

817
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: I think is going to be really key this week

818
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: is that both Robert Woods and Connor Barron are expected

819
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: to play. So Robert Woods obviously was Duram's most productive

820
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: receiver before he went down. I'm at the end of

821
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: that Minnesota game, and I think having him back, particularly

822
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: for this game, and especially with Seattle secondary the way

823
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: it is right now, that's going to be huge for

824
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: Jared God. It's gonna stretch you then defensively because now

825
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: the other wild card is active and he's up. So

826
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: with two good yeah, two good receivers, you probably have

827
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: two good corners every team does well. Now let's add

828
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: that third, and now not only do you have to

829
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: have a third corner, but you have to have a

830
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: good a great one, because the other two are still

831
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 1: moving around and they're still having They've had good games

832
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: without Robert Woods. So it just expands the offense a

833
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: little bit more. And I would bet that probably be

834
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: because of him and the threat of him, your screen

835
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: game gets off again. Yeah, I mean you're gonna start

836
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: to run guys off. It's no longer well I can

837
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: just kind of keep one eye in the backfield and

838
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: one guy on my man. With Robert Woods, you better

839
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: be focused on him, which means he's going to run

840
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: you right out of there exactly, which is good. That

841
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 1: could open up screens. That ninety four yard touchdown against

842
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: the Texans is going to continue to pay dividends with

843
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: Robert Woods because it just shows off his speed. Also,

844
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: that fifty two yard touchdown that he had on third

845
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: and thirty three against the Giant, Oh no doubt. And

846
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: he's going to make you pay for pressure too, because

847
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: when it's man covers, he's smart enough to know where

848
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: I'm hot or who's got me versus the blitz. And

849
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: now it's just one on one all over the field.

850
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: And look, even in his Buffalo days he was getting open.

851
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: Now he's got a quarterback that can get him the

852
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: rock too, So yeah, that just opens everything up for

853
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: the Rams offense. One of Robert Woods best games of

854
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: his career came against the Seattle Seahawks last year. And

855
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: I think we even talked about this when the Rams

856
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: first signed him. But he made ten catches for one

857
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty two yards at Seattle last year with Buffalo,

858
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: and that was when Tyrod Taylor was his quarterback, right,

859
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: legion of Boom was a legion of Boom. Right, Yeah,

860
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: But I think that just tells you, like, hey, Robert

861
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: Woods can come out here and he can really do something.

862
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: He is not afraid of that environment. He welcomes it,

863
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: he relishes it. So I mean, I love it when

864
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: when Seattle was at their best, their secondary was the

865
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: best in football. I mean, they were absolutely intimidating. You

866
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: would see guys fold up, I mean just not want

867
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: to play, except guys like him, right, Yeah. He wants

868
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: to be in that environment. So it's good to have

869
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: him back going up there. Yeah. Another thing that I

870
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: think we should acknowledge is Cooper cup wide receivers now

871
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: set the franchise record for a Wookie Ricky wide receiver.

872
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: Easy for me to say with fifty six receptions in

873
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: a season and that that record have been standing since

874
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six. So good for him. Who's tougher to

875
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 1: get to talk about themselves? Cooper Cup or Sean McVeigh

876
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: Oh god, I mean, like nobody if we didn't have

877
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: much time with Cup in the in the locker room

878
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: after the game. But I know, like asking him about that,

879
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: especially after a loss, would have just been like did

880
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: like come on right, right, he's I love his demeanor.

881
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: It's a veteran demeanor. It is um so look it's

882
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: he is a rookie. I'm glad there's a rookie record there,

883
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 1: but I mean we said it from day one. This

884
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: kid is no rookie, right, yeah, he was already day one. Yeah.

885
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: Mcveaghs said that. Offensive coordinator Matt Lafleur has also said that,

886
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: you know, he's got a veteran presence about him though

887
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: he's really special. It's like taking one of those pictures

888
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,439
Speaker 1: from Japan bringing him over. The guy's like thirty five,

889
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: but you call him a rookie here. You know, back

890
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: in two thousand and one, who won Rookie A Year's

891
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: no rookie. I will never forget that in Major League Baseball,

892
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: each ro Suzuki was no rookie. CC Sabathia should have

893
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: won that award. Wow, Yeah, I didn't know it was

894
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: that deep. Oh, but you know what I mean, right right,

895
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: But he is a rookie, but he has been pro ready.

896
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: I mean, look, he's he's been ready for this environment

897
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: since birth. Yeah, yeah, it's this is no shock to him.

898
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing him go to Seattle and

899
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: see how he's gonna play. It's basically his hometown. He's

900
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 1: from Yakima, Washington, not very far. How did you say

901
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: it Yakima? Did I say? I've never heard anybody pronounce

902
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,760
Speaker 1: it like that, even people from Yakama. What did I say?

903
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, it just sounded weird. Say it again, Yacama. Okay, okay,

904
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 1: never mind anyway, is that not how I said it before?

905
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: I don't remember it, to be honest. Anyway, guess what

906
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: it took me forty five minutes to get on the

907
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: show to say, Hi, I was waiting for an opportunity

908
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: issue and I want to cut in. Oh anyway, anyway, anyway, Yeah,

909
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: it's funny. I like I know that what Yakama is

910
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: because in college one of my best friend's roommates was

911
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: from Yakima. Oh no, again, there was also another guy

912
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: that when I was on the paper, he was sports editor.

913
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: I think two terms after me. Yeah, also was from

914
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: Yakama was Wisconsin, Washington from Okay cool. I mean, look,

915
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: I know you know where it is in school there.

916
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: There's going to be weather up in Seattle, yes, this

917
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: time of year, so it's not going to affect him.

918
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: He's used to it. Yeah, that's home for him. So yeah,

919
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 1: I mean I heard coach McVeigh talk about Jared Goff

920
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: and throwing the wet football. It doesn't bother Jared at all. Yeah,

921
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 1: he loves it. Well, he's got a receiver that feels

922
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: the same way. This environment, which you may call rough,

923
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 1: I call perfect. Yeah. Yeah, that's gonna be fun on

924
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: this weekend. This has been an interesting episode. Um like, well,

925
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: we'll go full disclosure before we talk a little more

926
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: about the Seahawks, because what are you gonna what are

927
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: you gonna out us about? What are you talking about?

928
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm hopped up on caffeine. Oh okay, like because I

929
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,919
Speaker 1: slept for like three hours last night. So they don't

930
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: want to hear that I will kill one cares. I

931
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: know they don't really care, but I want to tell

932
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: the story because it's my random week. So you can

933
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: you can sit there and be huffy if okay, go ahead.

934
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: So last night, I you know, I'm home, like, I

935
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: had some popcorn that my aunt sent me. Shout out

936
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: to my aunt for sending me some Toopsies popcorn. If

937
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: you've never heard Atopsies, Matt can tell you this is

938
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: some of the best stuff on earth. It's the best,

939
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: and you got to get it every single year. You

940
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: have to every single year on current uncle. For like

941
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: the last fifteen years, I send me one on Christmas

942
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: Day every single year. Yeah. It's it's a nice canister

943
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 1: a popcorn. It's got your cheese, it's at your caramel,

944
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: it's got your call it cinnamon candy. What's the red centamon. Yeah,

945
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: great stuff, great stuff, I can assure you. Anyway, So

946
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: after eating that, I'm like lying in bed. I'm asleep.

947
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, at one thirty in the morning,

948
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 1: there's a car horn and it goes off right carler

949
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: beep beep, beep beep, And I'm like, okay, it wakes

950
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: me up because I've got my window open. It's a

951
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: nice night. It's like fifty some degrees. Of course, you

952
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: got your window open, and I'm thinking, okay, like I

953
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: can I'm like half awake, but I can get back

954
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: to sleep. So it goes off and I was like okay,

955
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: and then it goes off again, and then it goes

956
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: and then it stops and it goes off again. This

957
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: happens like ten times within a ten minute period. I'm

958
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: awake and now I just I can't fall back asleep.

959
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: It was awful. So I like, I couldn't get back

960
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: to sleep until like six in the morning. It was terrible.

961
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: So now I don't like this is when I go Belichick, No,

962
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: give me a break. Any questions about the game. Listen,

963
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: I'm just saying what was funny about it. It was

964
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: that you could hear somebody like yelling out of their window,

965
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: drop their alarm stop it, which I could have easily done.

966
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: It could have easily been me, but I really didn't

967
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: want to get up out of my bed because like,

968
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, and then I take it. I had

969
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: already taken a melotonincy it can't really take another one

970
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: because who knows what that's gonna do to your body. So, yeah,

971
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: you know what the French feels like a reality show

972
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: confessional right now? Maybe it is. I don't doubt. Yes,

973
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: the French called that in Louis Blanche a white Knight,

974
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: and so it's always what I think of whenever I

975
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: have a night where I just cannot sleep. It was

976
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: a white Knight for me. So hopefully this episode of

977
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: Between the Horns has actually been good, because I don't know,

978
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: because I'm totally almost out of it today. The ramstake

979
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 1: on the Seahawks this weekend. It's a huge game, maybe

980
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: the biggest Rands game in over a decade. But when

981
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: you've got these games that are late in the year,

982
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: you're coming up on clinching. This is something I particularly

983
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 1: want to ask you as I'm watching him take of coffee.

984
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: As I'm watching it, it's like a big I just

985
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: want to feel like that man. I want to be like,

986
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: are you sure it's coffee? Just saying anyway, finish your point?

987
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: But what are you too? Talking about nothing? Anyway? What

988
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: was your point? I just want to be giddy as

989
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: as Miles. I need a white Knight. No, these aren't good.

990
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be dead by like two o'clock in the afternoon.

991
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: It's gonna be if we don't talk football. When you're

992
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: thinking about nineteen ninety nine. In situations where you're getting

993
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: close to clinching. Um, what was the mentality of the

994
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 1: team and how did you get to how did you

995
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: get there where you could mentally be prepared to say,

996
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: all right, we know this is a big game, let's

997
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: go execuse Well, it's crazy because the distractions ramp up

998
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: around this time of year, especially when you're good. There's

999
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: there's more attention on you, there's more people asking questions,

1000
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: there's more criticism on you. I mean stuff that really

1001
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: doesn't filter down into the locker room that when you

1002
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: do see it, you go, wow, really that's what they think.

1003
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: And you're a week past that already. So that's it

1004
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: is what it is. But coach for Meal did a

1005
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: great job keeping us focused on our goals. But I

1006
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: do remember one thing he did was he brought a

1007
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: flashlight in and this is key for players, break it

1008
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: all the way down. He brought a flashlight in and

1009
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: he shined it against the wall and he said, look,

1010
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: if I hold this all the way back, I can

1011
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: get the entire wall. The flashlight will show the entire wall.

1012
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: But as he got closer, so did the focus and

1013
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: it became just a dot right next to the wall.

1014
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: He said that needs to be our focus, and we

1015
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 1: got it. Yeah, it made sense. Forget everything else, don't

1016
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: pull back, stay close to what you have to do,

1017
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: and stay focused on the job at hand, which is

1018
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: one game, one play at a time. When you start

1019
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 1: getting into this game means a lot. This game is playoffs,

1020
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: yadyad YadA. Then you put the carpet for the horse

1021
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: and you're doomed to fail. So stay focused. It's all

1022
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 1: just about Seattle right now. Forget what the game means.

1023
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: It's just about defeating your man, going after them and

1024
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: getting a way up in Seattle, and then the rest

1025
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: will take care of itself. I think the Rams have

1026
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: done a really good job of keeping that attitude all

1027
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: year long. I mean, thinking about the Jacksonville game and

1028
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: then the Arizona game that you played that they played

1029
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: right after it. You know, you had a lot of

1030
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: chances to be distracted. Yeah, on that trip, and the

1031
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: Rams went out and they shut out the Arizona Cardinals,

1032
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: right and that was after Those were the two games

1033
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 1: after Seattle defeated you at home. So those two games

1034
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: could have brought up a lot of different things, especially

1035
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: I mean Jacksonville. You almost might look past that and

1036
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: say wow, you know, we've got this really long road trip,

1037
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: we're staying at this nice resort. And the Rams didn't

1038
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 1: do that at all. Yeah, And I think it's just

1039
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: the attitude that they have shown has been all season,

1040
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: one game, one play at a time. I remember being

1041
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 1: in in Carolina nineteen ninety nine. I might be the

1042
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 1: only guy on my team that this happened to, but

1043
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: I doubt it. When we're we finally started to win

1044
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: the game and we you know, you have that feeling

1045
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: on the bench that this game is ours. We have

1046
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: more points, they have less time. We're gonna win this

1047
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: football game. And then somebody started handing out hats, like

1048
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: what are they doing? And it said NFC West Champions

1049
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: on it. And I had no idea, zero idea, no

1050
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: idea that if we won and something else happened, we'd

1051
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: become champions. That day wasn't talked about. It was just

1052
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: talked about beating the Carolina Panthers. Yeah, that was a

1053
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: cool moment, like why are they passing out hats? Oh

1054
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: my god, we're champs. That's how That's how your mentality

1055
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: should and needs to be at this point. If you're

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00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: the Patriots, it's a little bit different. You've been through

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00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: this before, but this group, this RAMS group right now

1058
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: probably has that same mindset. I don't know what's going

1059
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 1: on out in the world. All I know is I

1060
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: gotta get Russell Wilson. All I know is right now,

1061
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: I gotta get Doug Baldwin on the ground. And then

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00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: they start passing out hats and you're happy. Yeah, that's

1063
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: the way it should be. Yeah, So the Rams do

1064
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: not technically have a just winning. You're in clinching scenario

1065
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: this weekend. Should they win though against the Seahawks, that

1066
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: actually would be the case because you'd be two games

1067
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: up in the NFC West with just two games to go.

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00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: So we now can talk about clinching scenarios, which I

1069
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: think is kind of cool. Absolutely know you're at a

1070
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: point where you don't just have to Jim Mora playoffs. No, no,

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00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: like no, we can really when you start talking about

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00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: this and and going into these environments and tuning everything out.

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00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: You know that commercial we used to have um where

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00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: the guy would walk in with headphones on and they

1075
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: play that song. You can tell everybody, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: but that's back when we used to like Kaepernick, Now

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00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: we can't talk about that. I can't talk about it

1078
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: right right, But that's but that is the mentality walk

1079
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: through all the nonsense. The only thing that matters is

1080
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: this game and your opponent, and that's it. Everything else

1081
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: is just noise. So we can talk about the fact

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00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: that if the Rams win, and then if Atlanta and

1083
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:37,479
Speaker 1: New Orleans loses, and then also if Green Bay and

1084
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 1: Detroit loser tie, the Rams will clinch a playoff berth. Wow. Yes,

1085
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: So it's a complicated scenario and it's not like it's

1086
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: just one thing that needs to happen for that to

1087
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: be the case, but it's something that is really tangible.

1088
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 1: Now if these you know, if these five things happen,

1089
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 1: the Rams will be in the playoffs in twenty seven.

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00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: That is awesome. I mean that that's really cool to

1091
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: think about out and pursue. And let's just hope the

1092
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: team plays their best game on Sunday. You're gonna need it,

1093
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: and then everyone everything else probably takes care of itself. Yeah,

1094
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 1: you get, as mcface says, you have to be at

1095
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: your best when your best is required. But winning no

1096
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: white knights for football, No, there are no white nights

1097
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: for football players of coaches. Winning in Seattle before you

1098
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: get out of your Winning in Seattle is very difficult

1099
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,760
Speaker 1: and last. But the Rams have done it as recently

1100
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: as twenty fifteen, which was a cool game because you

1101
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: know you didn't you then were seven and eight, had

1102
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: the opportunity to go eight and eight, which I think

1103
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: we talked about a couple of weeks ago. That would

1104
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: have been big then, right, and reaching five hundred this

1105
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: year was like, yeah, okay, but you still have X

1106
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: amount of games to go, and yeah, yeah, but you

1107
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: know when you had that game. Girly had a solid game,

1108
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 1: eighty three yards rushing, he had a touchdown, had that hurdle,

1109
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: and then he fumbled and center Tim Barnes was like,

1110
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: Johnny on the spot, Yeah, I do remember that. Yeah,

1111
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: I actually had a couple in that game. But again,

1112
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: the Rams, I believe can win this game in Seattle,

1113
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 1: no matter how tough it is, like you think about,

1114
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: actually teams have gone into Seattle and played well this year.

1115
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: Didn't see it from the Eagles, but Atlanta played well

1116
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: up there in one, Washington played well up there in one.

1117
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: The Texans played well up there and conceivably should have

1118
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: one could have won with Deshaun Watson as their quarterbacks

1119
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 1: still before that injury. So again, this is a game

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00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: that the Rams can win, and they should not be

1121
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: afraid to go up and no environment, no, no, no, Look,

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00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: I think some of the mystique has been knocked out

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00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: of Seattle, and it looks it's inevitable. I mean, they've

1124
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: had a great run and they've done it in a

1125
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: physical way. So eventually that's gonna take a toll on

1126
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: their bodies, their defense, and the way they want to

1127
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: win football games. But I'll tell you, the last people

1128
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: that know that are them and those that fan base

1129
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: up there. They still think it's five years ago. Yeah,

1130
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: they're still crazy. They're still loud. It's insanely loud out there.

1131
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 1: Even the guys that aren't the Pro Bowlers, the fill

1132
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: ins for Richard Sherman, the Phillins for Cam Chancellor, these

1133
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: guys still act like they're the legion of Boom. Yeah,

1134
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: there are some players you can make against them. It's

1135
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: it's not the same place to play as it was

1136
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, but they don't know it.

1137
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: They're still playing like it. So you still have to

1138
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: go up there and knock them off. They're not going

1139
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: to give it to you in Seattle, absolutely not. I

1140
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: really think this should be a fun one. I love

1141
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 1: going up to Seattle. It's one of my favorite road trips.

1142
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: Every year. We're going to do it. Ditto. Just get

1143
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: some sleep. Yeah, I'm going to try to get meltin.

1144
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't really know what the recommended.

1145
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: Have some spiked eggnog. Maybe I'll do that. There you go. Yeah,

1146
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: all right, guys, thank you so much for tuning in

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00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 1: to this episode of Between the Horns kickoff on Sunday.

1148
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: Is that one oh five game is on Fox? Of

1149
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: course you can as always, you can tune into DeMarco Far.

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00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: Jblong and Maurice Jones Drew on the call on ESPN

1151
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: LA for producer Matt For DeMarco far I'm Miles Simmons.

1152
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: He's a white Knight. I am a white knight in

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00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: a dark, dark world.