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Speaker 1: Previously on Weedian House, I'm gonna make a player. If

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Speaker 1: you guys interfere, you will go to JEL.

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Speaker 2: What if what if the interference you delay us from

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Speaker 2: cleaning standing the way, anything that is struck from them

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Speaker 2: cleaning or disrupt them from cleaning, will go to Gems.

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Speaker 3: But I think everybody to help get it good.

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Speaker 1: But I was trying to be let me just finished.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to be fair and I'm explaining it so

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Speaker 2: in the case an event happens, which I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: it will, and I hope it doesn't, everybody's aware and

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Speaker 2: we're on the same page.

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Speaker 4: There is nowhere to go. There is nowhere after there

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Speaker 4: is it. This was the last resort for me.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I know it.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be a pace because yeah, that's where it

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Speaker 5: looks like they don't have no rights to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, welcome to Whedian How. I'm your host Leo Henderson.

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Speaker 5: This week we have two contrasting topics to explore youth,

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Speaker 5: houselessness and the effects of Grant's past.

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Speaker 1: But first on House News our first story.

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Speaker 5: On October first, twenty twenty four, a heat wave advisory

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Speaker 5: was given in the Los Angeles area. Here are the

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Speaker 5: augmented cooling centers that will start Tuesday, October first and

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Speaker 5: in Wednesday, October second. The first cooling center is Fred

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Speaker 5: Roberts Recreation Center forty seven hundred Hundura Street, Los Angeles, California,

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Speaker 5: nine zero zero eleven. The next one is Mid Valley

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Speaker 5: Senior Center eighty eight zero one Kester Avenue, Panorama City, California,

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Speaker 5: nine to one for zero two. The next one is

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Speaker 5: Sunlands Senior Center eighty six forty Fenwick Street, Sutherland, California,

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Speaker 5: nine one zero four zero, Jim Gillion Recreation Center four

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Speaker 5: thousand le Brea Avenue, Los Angeles, California, nine zero zero

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Speaker 5: zero eight, and the last one is Lincoln Heights Senior

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Speaker 5: Center twenty three twenty three Workman Street, Los Angeles, California,

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Speaker 5: nine zero zero three one. It is also important to

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Speaker 5: note that there are recreation and park facilities that are

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Speaker 5: open to help stay cool. Bear in mind there are

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Speaker 5: strict restrictions on baggage and luggage for unhoused people. In addition,

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Speaker 5: there are no transportation services offered to help unhouse people

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Speaker 5: get to these cooling centers. Our next story takes us

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Speaker 5: to Asheville North Carolina. There is a high number of

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Speaker 5: currently unhoused people there and surrounding areas. People have lost

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Speaker 5: their homes, lives, their pets, and community support. The question becomes,

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Speaker 5: are they now subject to Grant's past ruling but those

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Speaker 5: that are recently tuning in. Grant's past ruling was handed

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Speaker 5: down on June twenty eight, twenty twenty four. In some

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Speaker 5: Grant's paths give leaders the right to criminalize displaced people

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Speaker 5: without any offer for services. It does not say that

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Speaker 5: people displaced from acts of nature are exempt from the ruling,

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Speaker 5: which leads the conversation to this, why would they be

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Speaker 5: exempt from Grant's past and other unhoused camptets would not.

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Speaker 5: It is important to remember that FEMA aid was not

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Speaker 5: approved by Congress and the insurance industry will not be

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Speaker 5: paying but newly displaced the correct and fair amount of

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Speaker 5: their property that has been destroyed, thus leaving vulnerable people

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Speaker 5: to the mercy and empathy of our society. Bear in

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Speaker 5: mind Hurricane Katrina on House community members are still displaced

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Speaker 5: and are now subject to the Grants past ruling as well.

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Speaker 5: Our final story is inexclusive, with someone's subject to eviction

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Speaker 5: from Glassow Park with renewed fervor by law enforcement, park

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Speaker 5: and Recreation, and City Council member Unices Hernandez as Grant's

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Speaker 5: pass casts a ferocious and dark pall upon the city.

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Speaker 5: Empty shares their story frustration and fear of arrest touted

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Speaker 5: by council Member Hernandez office and law enforcement.

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Speaker 6: We don't want to be arrested for not being able

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Speaker 6: to pay the rest if that is what she is allowing.

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Speaker 7: She is allowing people to get arrested.

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Speaker 6: For not paying direct my ki Stamus.

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Speaker 1: We had a chance to speak more at length. Here's

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Speaker 1: our talk.

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Speaker 3: Definitely the better two years.

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Speaker 6: And I'm like I know her, like she came to

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Speaker 6: one of our karaoke luncheons that we used to have

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Speaker 6: for the food distribution participants.

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Speaker 7: Because I run a.

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Speaker 6: Weekly food or bottom line, a weekly food distribution that

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Speaker 6: has been going on for over two years. She came

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Speaker 6: and great, you know, just like talk to talk to

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Speaker 6: and after that, I have been in regular, regular you know,

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Speaker 6: like weekly communication with Eric Garrez, but only over phone.

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Speaker 5: And what was the subject of the conversations that was going.

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Speaker 7: On well various, you know.

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Speaker 6: Initially I tried to explain to them that I had

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Speaker 6: of living houselessly as a political act, which I already

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Speaker 6: believe it is because the system we're living under literally

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Speaker 6: creates and requires houselessness in order to maintain the entire

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Speaker 6: concept of private property. They were all down with that

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Speaker 6: until a whole bunch of Nimbis decided that they that

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Speaker 6: the Nimbis were not down with that, and then things changed,

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Speaker 6: Our communications started to change the nature of.

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Speaker 7: Our you know.

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Speaker 6: They were their office and Eric Arez in particular was

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Speaker 6: not all down with that, you know, And so slowly,

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Speaker 6: then more quickly, their stance, in my experience, changed from

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Speaker 6: one where they were defending the landlord class essentially. And

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Speaker 6: what I mean specifically in my case is that they

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Speaker 6: were not transparent despite their statements to the contrary of

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Speaker 6: their role in evicting me from the Glashaw Park rec

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Speaker 6: Center where I lived for a year and a half

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Speaker 6: and ran them weekly food distribution free.

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Speaker 5: You know, do you think it has anything to do

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Speaker 5: with the acceleration of Grant's Pass.

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Speaker 6: Well, Grant's Pass has changed everything, as you well know

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Speaker 6: and have well documented THEO. I mean, Grant's Pass has

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Speaker 6: definitely changed everything. But you know, Grant's Pass is the

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Speaker 6: codification of what was already popular opinion and being popularly practiced,

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Speaker 6: and that is the criminalization of houselessness.

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Speaker 7: And again, that's a criminalization of.

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Speaker 6: A way of life if we can all at that,

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Speaker 6: of private property. So to me, it's really similar to

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Speaker 6: the way cheap beer works. Bear with me, I'm going somewhere, okay.

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Speaker 6: You know, people can easily go into any liquor store

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Speaker 6: nine percent ABV beer, drink the whole thing, and then

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Speaker 7: Well, that's the way houselessness works.

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Speaker 6: You know, you're definitely going to very easily become houseless

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Speaker 6: because the rents are too high intentionally because we live

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Speaker 6: in a hierarchicalized system where some people are able to

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Speaker 6: afford rent based upon their identity and hierarchical position, and

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Speaker 6: some people are not and the people who are not

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Speaker 6: able to afford the rent then become houseless and a disease.

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Speaker 7: Is very aware of this.

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Speaker 6: You know, her campaign was in part centered on the

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Speaker 6: eviction to homelessness pipeline. I mean she said that phrase

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Speaker 6: how many times. We could probably go through all of

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Speaker 6: that she said that phrase.

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Speaker 7: She's very aware of it.

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Speaker 6: She started Law of defensa, she was a major component

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Speaker 6: to be built that that project was shut down. She's

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Speaker 6: absolutely aware that eviction happens because of gentrification, and homelessness

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Speaker 6: happens because of eviction, and she is also aware that

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Speaker 6: homelessness is criminalized. So the fact that her office shifted

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Speaker 6: from being sympathetic with a way of life, that is,

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Speaker 6: for lack of a better phrase, out loud and proud

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Speaker 6: in its acknowledgement of all these facts that I am naming,

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Speaker 6: to a stance where essentially they are reliant upon the

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Speaker 6: carceral state, not just a vict me, but arrest me.

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Speaker 6: And they are explicitly fine with that. Literally, that's what

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Speaker 7: To me on the phone.

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Speaker 6: No, Eric Gaz Eric Garrez multiple time, CEO, I have

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Speaker 6: asked him.

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Speaker 7: All I want is a like an eviction date, and

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Speaker 7: I'll leave your district. I'll leave your fucking district.

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Speaker 6: Dudes, I don't want to get arrested, you know, don't

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Speaker 6: criminalize me. And that's my specific you know, obviously you

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Speaker 6: fucking directly.

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Speaker 7: It affects me directly. I also do.

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Speaker 6: Community service, shall we say, in the form of activism,

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Speaker 6: and of course, the legal system does not like that,

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Speaker 6: as you can not only imagine, but perhaps have experienced.

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Speaker 6: So you know that exacerbates the consequences for my facing

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Speaker 6: do not care. That was said to me explicitly multiple times.

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Speaker 6: So somewhere along the line that you know, this person

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Speaker 6: developed into a very powerful community organizer whose stated interest

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Speaker 6: by basically focusing on her careerism. And that is the

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Speaker 6: way her office works too. They're all careerists. They cannot

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Speaker 7: They had reckoned parks come.

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Speaker 6: In postnoice, and so I removed, removed everything, like I

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Speaker 7: You know, arrested and the like.

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Speaker 6: Then literally that day, the day of the that was

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Speaker 7: To houses people.

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Speaker 6: I mean, they brought in like, you know, two picnic tables,

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Speaker 6: was a small area I was taking up. It's a

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Speaker 6: little mini park right next to the pool, A small area,

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Speaker 6: you know, so four or five signs, it's in a

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Speaker 6: small area basically you know, like LA MC code like whatever, whatever.

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Speaker 6: No lodging, no camping, no storage or whatever it is. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: so they essentially had you know, what they had done

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Speaker 6: is have a confab and decided that because the police

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Speaker 6: are the only twenty four hour service in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 6: the police were now going to have jurisdiction over this

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Speaker 6: tiny portion of the park where normally legally and honestly

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Speaker 6: fucked the settler colonial legal system. It adjusts itself to

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Speaker 6: whatever its needs are to control our behavior. So I

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Speaker 6: have no faith in it whatsoever. But by its own rubric,

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Speaker 6: by its own standards, reckon Parks would have.

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Speaker 7: Been responsible for that area.

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Speaker 6: They then just decided a priori to turn it into

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Speaker 6: a site that would be jurisdicted by the police by

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Speaker 6: LAPD using these signs saying LAMC Los Angeles Municipal Code.

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Speaker 7: Whatever, get the fuck out, Like that's what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Code.

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Speaker 5: I have means because I too had lived in the

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Speaker 5: the ongoing threats with the park rangers that was initially started.

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Speaker 1: Then they handed it off to the cops.

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Speaker 5: Still, the conversation, the question Steel begs, is you're still

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Speaker 5: a citizen here, you still have the right to use

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Speaker 5: that part I was saying that you can't use the

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Speaker 5: time the park closes that they're going to move in

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Speaker 5: on you.

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Speaker 6: They're gonna come whenever they want. They're gonna do whatever

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Speaker 6: Then? Why did we elect her? She's protecting the landlord class.

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Speaker 5: Thank you to empty for educating us on the reality

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Speaker 5: tuned for our exciting guests, doctor Robin Petering and Tony

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Speaker 8: Oh man, wow, well, thank you so much. For that

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Speaker 8: So I, doctor Petering, I am in the CEO and

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Speaker 1: I would like to stop you right there, Doctor Petering.

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Speaker 5: She's being modest, so I'm going to have to really

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Speaker 8: always motivated by honestly thinking outside of the box a

441
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 8: bit of like, you know, we have all these rules,

442
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 8: particularly in the nonprofit space, and there's those ways that

443
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 8: things have been done and just I think challenging that

444
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 8: a little bit of how we really like to take

445
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 8: inspiration from other industries, bring things in, try to push

446
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 8: back on some of these norms. I bet, I think

447
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 8: in the way that services are delivered, the way that

448
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 8: policies are made. So I mean, I think that's one

449
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 8: of the ways why we're intentionally even not a nonprofit,

450
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 8: we're a for profit and we want to show that

451
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 8: you can be a for profit and still have a

452
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 8: big impact on this world.

453
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 5: And yeah, speaking of big impact, I'm also neglected to

454
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 5: mention that they were responsible for helping me at the

455
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 5: time when I was doing Leon House town Hall when

456
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 5: there was one of our colleagues from the show, or

457
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 5: actually one of our allies from the show, Gina Viola,

458
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 5: was running for mayor. We had people, I would say

459
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 5: people from the front, but had lens Cod youth helping

460
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 5: with the sound and the equipment of that time too

461
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 5: to get their presence known into the conversation. And I

462
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 5: think that's one And when you were mentioning the novel

463
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 5: or thinking outside the box, that's a clear example of

464
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 5: what they were doing involving youth into having to say,

465
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 5: into the electoral process, which is also unnecessary, which I

466
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 5: want to quickly just before not to omit or neglect.

467
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 5: Mister Tony, mister Tony, what can you tell us a

468
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 5: little bit about yourself?

469
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:37,239
Speaker 3: Oh? Wow, pressure, no pressure, following doctor p. Yeah. So

470
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 3: I moved to LA almost ten years ago, and you know,

471
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 3: like any of the young person just wanting to pursue

472
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 3: a career in the culinary industry. Actually so not TV

473
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 3: or film. But I was gonna say the Shark chef

474
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: for but you know, I guess that could have been one.

475
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 3: But yeah, so it ended up, you know, not going

476
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 3: my way. I think I moved here with a little

477
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 3: bit of savings and being like, Okay, in two weeks

478
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 3: I'm going to have a job and I'm going to

479
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: have an apartment. And it didn't go like that. So

480
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 3: I ended up experiencing homelessness and crashing in my car

481
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 3: and couch surfing for six months. And during that time,

482
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 3: you know, I was able to connect to a lot

483
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 3: of orgs in LA And I guess it's just like

484
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 3: I was always a motivated person in the sense of

485
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 3: like I didn't want to get comfortable. I knew there

486
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 3: was always this mantra in me that's like I saw

487
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 3: what it was like, and I was like, I don't

488
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 3: want to be that person who ends up living in

489
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 3: a tent and being okay for the rest of my

490
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 3: life doing that. So I was like, what can I

491
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 3: do to get myself out of this situation. So this

492
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 3: was back when they were still doing like bus tokens,

493
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 3: and you're like traveling across all this town trying to

494
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 3: get here and there whatever resource was made available, and

495
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 3: eventually I did find out or here in Hollywood. They

496
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 3: gave me an apartment for two years rent free, and

497
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 3: that allowed me to go to school, but also it

498
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 3: allowed me to meet people in the system and want

499
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 3: my case manager, who to actually referred me to into

500
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 3: that program, was also like, oh, you should look into

501
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,239
Speaker 3: advocacy because I was just always curious as to you know,

502
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 3: how come it took me six months to get an apartment.

503
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 3: Yet there's still people that I know to this day,

504
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 3: even my current where I am today, that I still

505
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 3: go to certain places and I still say the same

506
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 3: young people that you know, I first met when I

507
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 3: moved here. So that just that curiosity of wanting to know.

508
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 3: I think we all have that in claning of like

509
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 3: you see something and you really, you know, whether it's

510
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 3: you trying to figure out how to remote works or

511
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 3: TV works. And I think for me was trying to

512
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 3: understand how the system worked and why it worked faster

513
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 3: for me than it did for certain other people. So

514
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 3: I joined several youth boards in LA and just started advocating.

515
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: And I think twenty eighteen is when I through some

516
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 3: of the work I was doing, and then I was

517
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 3: introduced to Robin and Laura and they were planning an

518
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 3: event around young people and advocacy, and it was like

519
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 3: the first time in this work that I was being

520
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 3: invited to be part of the beginning stages of something,

521
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: as opposed to being like, hey, we need someone with

522
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 3: lived experience to show up at this event. It was

523
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 3: like one of the first few. It was actually the

524
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 3: first time I showed up and someone was like, we

525
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 3: don't have anything planned like the zero We just know

526
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 3: we want to do this thing and we want to

527
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 3: plan it with you guys. And I think for me

528
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 3: that was kind of just like the beginning of it all,

529
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 3: just realizing that someone valued what I had to say

530
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 3: and what I had to say meant something rather than

531
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: just showing up to a big meeting at city 'all

532
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 3: and saying something and wondering whether that went in and

533
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: out the other year. So I think that kind of

534
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 3: really just like as a young person, especially in this system,

535
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 3: or as a young person in general looking at the

536
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 3: system or looking at people older than you, it's always

537
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 3: going to be like do this, And especially if you're

538
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 3: someone who spits system impacted, I think there's always a

539
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 3: voice in your head being like, oh, these people don't

540
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 3: they're not listening to you, or they don't care what

541
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: you have to say it, or this is for show.

542
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 3: And it also comes from experience of being in a

543
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 3: lot of these spaces across LA and just showing up

544
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 3: in spaces and you know, being tokenized and having my

545
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 3: voice and my experience used, but not knowing to what

546
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 3: end or why do I need to do this? So

547
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 3: for me to be at that space and for us

548
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: to then plan the event and have a successful event

549
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 3: and tying into the podcast was my first time being

550
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: a guest on the podcast on Hella Doc Town. Because

551
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 3: they were recorded during the event. There was like a

552
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 3: little thing in like in the middle of the whole

553
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 3: space at Colin Dowtment. It was just recording and I

554
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 3: think there's a picture of me, yeah, being being in

555
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 3: and I wanted to start my own podcast. From there on,

556
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 3: I was like, this is my purpose is I would

557
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 3: love to talk to people for the rest of my life.

558
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 3: And you know, took a couple of years with things

559
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 3: finally worked out, and you know, I found myself now,

560
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 3: you know, working for Lenscoe now young people at the front,

561
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 3: and yeah, that kind of just been kind of how

562
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 3: our journeys came together and now here we are talking

563
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 3: to you.

564
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: Wow, as a fellow podcast.

565
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 5: Do you find it difficult because they would use you

566
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 5: as the measuring stick of the acceptable and house guy

567
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 5: I pulled themselves out and those other guys don't want

568
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 5: to get help and they deserve what they get or

569
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 5: what they deserve be criminalized. Do you find that in

570
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 5: that conversation or in that space. I think for me, definitely,

571
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 5: it can relate to a lot of that. But I

572
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 5: think everybody's experience is different from how they enter the system,

573
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 5: whether it's through the CFS, the juvenile system, whatever, however

574
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 5: your entry point, and you said it, it doesn't matter. Everyone

575
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 5: is one paycheck away from illness.

576
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, literally from being homeless and there's definitely a lot

577
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 3: of negative stigma, and I think there's obviously a whole

578
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 3: lot from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty two, when I

579
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 3: finally started working at Lensco. I think for me, the

580
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: six months of being there, it's definitely been something that

581
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 3: I don't talk a lot about often because then obviously

582
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 3: there's that bias of people have an image or an

583
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 3: idea of what that looked like, and then I hate that.

584
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 3: Then I go into the offensive and defensive of Okay,

585
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 3: well I wasn't on the street, you know, I was,

586
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 3: you know, sleeping in cars or a scout surfing or

587
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 3: a house. Yeah, but it's just like the It was

588
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 3: harder to explain to my friends, but it was easier

589
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 3: when I started adding those details to it, because then

590
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 3: people are like, oh okay. And also there was the

591
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 3: fact that I was a student at trade Tech, so

592
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 3: that's a whole different thing where I wasn't the typical

593
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 3: image of what you would think an housed person looks like,

594
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 3: because when we think about unhoused person in LA, you

595
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 3: don't think about a young person under twenty five. So

596
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 3: I definitely think I had that going for me versus

597
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 3: someone who's an adult who can be like, oh, I

598
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 3: experienced homelessness during my adult year. So as a young person,

599
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 3: it's so easy to slip by in the fingers and

600
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 3: go unnoticed because no one is going to assume that

601
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 3: a young person who's going to community college who does

602
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 3: not physically look like they're in housed is in housed,

603
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 3: because you know, I was on taking the train, I

604
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 3: was taking showers of gyms, like I had different clothes

605
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 3: on every day. So unless I wanted to give you

606
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 3: that detail about my life, like nobody knew and now

607
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 3: going into the podcast, I genuinely think had ninety nine

608
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: percent of the people come in the podcast probably do

609
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 3: know that I've lived experience, or when I'm talking to them,

610
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 3: it does come up, but I think I bring it

611
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 3: up in a very comitic way, or I try to

612
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 3: find light in it and not make it a very

613
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 3: dark subject, because also there's a I feel like sometimes

614
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: when I do bring it up, then somebody doesn't I

615
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 3: have experienced or don't know how to handle it, then

616
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 3: it just kind of makes the conversation, Yeah, it just

617
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 3: becomes weird. But we just we had a really good

618
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 3: guest on that everyone's been talking about recently Sage, who

619
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 3: was another young person that I met, and we talked

620
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 3: a lot about how you know, this for me was

621
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 3: in twenty eighteen, but yet there's still certain places that

622
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 3: we go too and we're still viewed, like especially if

623
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 3: it's like a place that helped me when I was

624
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 3: a young person, Like there's still rooms that if I

625
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 3: show up, someone might still remember me as one of

626
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 3: the youth that was in their program. But it's just

627
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 3: a weird bias where sometimes there's still people who treat

628
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 3: you like you're like they haven't removed you from that category.

629
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 3: So I think the conversation that we're having, or I

630
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 3: guess I'm trying to have, is that how do I

631
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 3: be in this work and be this guy and be

632
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 3: a host of this podcast and have this as part

633
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: of my identity but not letting it define me because

634
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 3: I'm past that. But I'm also like not defending, like

635
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 3: something could happen tomorrow and I could be right back

636
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 3: to ground zero. But I'm also like, I don't want

637
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 3: to get stuck in a circle of where everything I

638
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 3: do is defined by the fact that I was once unhoused.

639
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 3: But also it's like I wouldn't be where I am

640
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 3: today if it wasn't for me going through it. Like

641
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 3: you said too, if it weren't for the podcast, you

642
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 3: wouldn't be where you are today. So it is part

643
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 3: of my identity, whether I like it or not. But

644
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 3: I think it's just how I use it and if

645
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 3: I give people power over it or how they should

646
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 3: and also what they think about me and whatnot. It's

647
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 3: never going to be any of my business. But it's

648
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 3: just I think it also depends on what day it is,

649
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 3: because there's a day where if I'm talking to someone like, oh,

650
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 3: I don't want this person to know about my story,

651
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 3: and then I find another person I'm like, oh, I

652
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 3: would love to tell you about my story. So I

653
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 3: don't know if that answers your question, but all it does.

654
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 5: But you also gave me things to think about, like

655
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 5: for example, I do have like for me before to

656
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 5: even go on my first podcast, to even do it,

657
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Speaker 5: it was like a like like a crucible, like I

658
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 5: was going through fire in order to let it know

659
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 5: and to also letting people know and being comfortable telling

660
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 5: my experience because it was like it was shameful thing

661
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 5: or I felt embarrassed because you know, sometimes people would

662
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 5: make a point, but you can get a job right

663
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 5: right away, you know, because I also have disabilities, and

664
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 5: I have invisible disabilities. I don't so you don't always

665
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 5: unless I tell you I have these disabilities, you were

666
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 5: going to know. But most importantly it was the dismissiveness hearing, well,

667
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 5: you're so articulate, you already have a college degree, you know,

668
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 5: you know, why aren't you just go back into you know,

669
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 5: because I was a teacher, Why don't you just go

670
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 5: back and teacher?

671
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: I Let, dude, I'm intelligent enough to have a degree.

672
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 5: I think I'm intelligent to know that I know I

673
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 5: can't do the same things after having a stroke and

674
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 5: having other things that's going on with me, that I

675
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 5: cannot do the same things anymore.

676
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: It's very clear to me.

677
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 5: So if I'm telling you I'm not able to do

678
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 5: in that kind of format, then understand that and respect that.

679
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 5: But it's very difficult because our society, unfortunately, is a

680
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 5: blaming and shaming society. We must attribute value in your

681
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 5: ability to work, and in your ability to work until

682
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 5: your death or overwork, which is why I ended up

683
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 5: with the stroke anyway, because of that, and now I'm

684
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 5: having to move more with intention. I have to be

685
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 5: very careful of certain things. Have to make sure I

686
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 5: don't overwork myself. I have to make sure than my health,

687
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 5: I have to make sure my diet. I have to

688
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 5: make sure certain stressor is dealing their depression. I mean,

689
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Speaker 5: it was all of these things that I have to

690
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Speaker 5: do now that I just basically listened to earlier societal

691
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 5: messages and ignored it and just says, well, I'll deal

692
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 5: with it. And I was a younger man, and my

693
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 5: dad wasn't always the greatest, and I just worked and

694
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Speaker 5: worked and just put things off and thinking that I

695
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 5: had this invincibility until I had a stroke, and then

696
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 5: it totally changed and I had no idea. I had

697
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 5: no plan of having a stroke as a young person.

698
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 5: I had no idea that the hell that I have

699
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Speaker 5: to do to recover from that and to get better

700
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 5: with that. But the point of it is people have

701
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 5: these preconceived notions of what houselessness is or what people

702
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 5: are and how to be able to to see them

703
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 5: in that. Now I'm at the point where was I

704
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 5: don't care if he's known I'm on house. I don't

705
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 5: care if you know that I've had these medical issues.

706
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 5: It is a part of me, and I have to

707
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 5: own that I'm more than that. But I'm also I

708
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 5: won't run from if you know that amn house, because

709
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 5: it was kind of pretty hard to do it when

710
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 5: you see me out here doing the show and people

711
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 5: come by and say, I listen to your show. I

712
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 5: didn't know you. That was you, da da da dah.

713
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I didn't you know. So it became

714
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 5: a point like, well, I can't. I can't just put

715
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 5: on a stretchcoat sculpe and from shadow to shadow people

716
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 5: know who I am.

717
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: But it does take a process.

718
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 5: It does take a kind of being stronger in your

719
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 5: own spirit to be able to go in and move

720
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Speaker 5: in these places. And then I wanted to now that

721
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 5: I'm at this position, like I want to get the

722
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Speaker 5: story out, but I also want to expand the conversation.

723
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Speaker 5: But returning back to doctor Petering, I wanted to talk

724
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Speaker 5: to you about on what vision do you have that

725
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 5: is going to be a long term vision? What do

726
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 5: you see this this advocacy taking off into.

727
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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a great question, you know. I just want

728
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 8: to reflect to listening to both of you all and

729
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 8: and I think this as part of our long term plan. Right.

730
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 8: What's so important is the storytelling and advocacy. And it's

731
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 8: really incredible that you all, both of you have been

732
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 8: able to share your story in ways that are very powerful.

733
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Speaker 8: And I know it's not easy as well, you know,

734
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 8: and I think one of the best ways, and one

735
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 8: of the goals of the original podcast, Hello dog Town

736
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 8: and also with the Young People to the Front podcast

737
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 8: is always to bring in like the diversity of voices, right,

738
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 8: highlighting that there are these this expansive number of experiences

739
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 8: of houselessness and housing instability. I think also houselessness look

740
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Speaker 8: different than it did five years ago, ten years ago.

741
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Speaker 8: And you know, if we talk about the way that

742
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 8: you know, if you talk about insecure housing, I like

743
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 8: to think of also in the terms of like just stability.

744
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 8: You know, you could be in an apartment, but you're unsafe,

745
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 8: like you're with an unsafe partner that's not stable, So

746
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 8: like that, it's really about that kind of overall stability

747
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 8: factor that I think is the goal, not always necessarily

748
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 8: physically house versus on house. I guess I just went on,

749
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 8: but you've brought up.

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00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 5: Something very very clear too, because when I was in

751
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 5: Washington at the National Conference for Houselessness. They were talking

752
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 5: about a new form of houselessness, which you're mentioning to

753
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 5: the double stacking of unhoused people a house and secure

754
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 5: people that are not counted in the unhoused count because

755
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 5: of the fact that they've sink to your house, but

756
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,720
Speaker 5: you're living like ten or fifteen to like two rooms

757
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 5: and things of that nature in order to avoid living

758
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 5: on the street. But that's that's a conversational point that

759
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 5: you made that I want to, Yeah, come back to it.

760
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, come back a little bit, but please continue.

761
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'll talk about that for sure.

762
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 8: But yeah, so I think you know, bringing in the

763
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 8: stories and we've one of the reason is why we

764
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 8: started Helloed Dogtown too is we got the small funding

765
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 8: from Department and Mental Health, and we said, I've always

766
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 8: been kind of a nerd of using comms, communication and

767
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 8: marketing almost for advocacy, right, So much of even the

768
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 8: important part of advocacy is the public opinion is bringing

769
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 8: the public along with you. In your book, we all

770
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 8: just talked about how much stigma there is, how much

771
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 8: assumption of things. So part of solving homelessness, besides you know,

772
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 8: these kind of bigger policy things is really just changing

773
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 8: public perception. I do think that a lot has changed

774
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 8: in the last ten years in terms of public perception.

775
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 8: I think I talk about this is when I first

776
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 8: moved to LA in twenty ten, and homelessness and lots

777
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 8: angels was pretty much understood to be happening in skid

778
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 8: row and I was going to social work school and

779
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 8: so that was something that I was tapped into. But

780
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 8: you know, my peers that weren't, you know, in those spaces,

781
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 8: had no understanding of homelessness and they knew skin row existed,

782
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 8: and that was kind of that. But now you know,

783
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 8: most people know, and I think the majority people in

784
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 8: Los Angeles also know that homelessness is not an individual problem.

785
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 8: They can say housing is the ked to ending homelessness,

786
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 8: like all those things that that wasn't true at all

787
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 8: ten years ago. So we've made like a lot of progress,

788
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 8: but partially because homelessness has also become more visible, so

789
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 8: people now even understand the seeing experience it in a

790
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 8: different way than they did ten years ago. But also

791
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 8: people are relatively well versed on some of this stuff,

792
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 8: some in a bad way, but most people.

793
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, when we come back more with doctor Robin Petering

794
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 5: and Tony Saint James.

795
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Weedie and Howse.

796
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 5: Here's the rest of my check with doctor Robin Petering

797
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 5: and Tony Saint James. Tony, I wanted to ask for

798
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 5: you were vision. Do you see what's your platform and

799
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 5: your advocacy? Where do you see yourself?

800
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 3: Oh? Wow, it's crazy how I'm often the one asking

801
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 3: the question, so I yeah, it's I think the vision

802
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 3: has always been and I think Robin talks a lot

803
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 3: about it, but I think it's always like, hey, we

804
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 3: can I would love to see youth homelessness ended. I

805
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 3: think those numbers of those young people are much lower

806
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 3: than the adult population. And I think, you know, again

807
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 3: going back to the whole conversation about stigma, it's you know,

808
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 3: you're talking about kids in LUSD who you know, we

809
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 3: have kids, young people who are exiting out of the

810
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 3: Fosse curious system and they're you know, there's like this

811
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 3: pipeline where everyone just keeps ending up in one system

812
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 3: to another to another. And I think I would love

813
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 3: to see a world where young people are not ending

814
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 3: up in the adult system. So I think that's a

815
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 3: huge part of my advocacies that you know, in the

816
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 3: youth system, they help you until you're twenty five. I

817
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 3: turn twenty five during COVID in twenty twenty, so no

818
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, Like I still even today, I still

819
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 3: there's still a lot that I'm figuring out on how

820
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 3: to take care of myself. So when you're talking about

821
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 3: young people and homelessness, I think there's a different approach

822
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: to take and recognize that it is a thing that

823
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 3: is happening. It is it's a serious problem when you

824
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 3: have students going at two of the biggest universities in

825
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 3: America and they're leaving in advance to be able to

826
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Speaker 3: afford to attend these institutions. So I think I want

827
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 3: more visibility. I want when we talk about homelessness in

828
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 3: LA to also recognize that they are young people because

829
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 3: I think if if politicians and funders and everyone's recognizing

830
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 3: the youth homelessness is also a thing that we can address,

831
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 3: I think then more money is poured in to it

832
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 3: and we can end youth homelessness, and that's preventing people

833
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 3: from ending up in the adult system, and those numbers

834
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 3: can keep going down. So I think for me, that's

835
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 3: that's my vision.

836
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: Do you think the reason why the numbers are going out?

837
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Speaker 1: Because I remember seeing one of the ads from Covenant

838
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 1: House and they're saying, one of the things that's going

839
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: on with the youth is that the youth that going

840
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: into the adult shelter systems, And could it possibly be

841
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: that they're being counted as more of the older adults

842
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 1: instead of being connected with the resources that can count

843
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: them accurately or count them to the point where do

844
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: you think that That's.

845
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Speaker 4: A good question. So we also we can talk a

846
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 4: lot about the homeless account.

847
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Speaker 8: This is also an area of our expertise as we

848
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 8: actually coordinate the entire youth count and the shelter count

849
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 8: is something that yeah, it's just a one night tally,

850
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 8: but I hope they're getting counted, but again we don't

851
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 8: necessarily know.

852
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 4: It's an imperfect exactly science.

853
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 8: This is kind of what almost like citizen science, right,

854
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 8: your data collectors are you know everyone, right, the citizens

855
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 8: of Los Angeles. So, but the numbers, I think we

856
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 8: have seen the youth numbers have been going down, and

857
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 8: I think there's two reasons, right, and this is at

858
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 8: least with the youth count and just generally because we've

859
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 8: seen like a trend of the numbers of youth going down.

860
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 8: The most recent count was a little bit over three thousand.

861
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 8: We saw the same trend that we saw on the adults.

862
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,479
Speaker 8: That it was it kind of flipped that more young

863
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 8: people were sheltered versus unsheltered, So we're getting a higher

864
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 8: proportion of people inside versus outside. So positive things, but

865
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Speaker 8: I know we have such a you know, we're we

866
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:53,439
Speaker 8: don't trust these numbers just by not only because there

867
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 8: have been mistakes and we know it's not counting every

868
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 8: now and we know a lot of experiences are missing

869
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 8: from that. So I kind of think kind of always

870
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 8: our gut reaction is like, well, I don't I don't

871
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 8: know if I believe that. But knowing that there are

872
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,240
Speaker 8: kind of these this amount of error and this amount

873
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 8: of undercount, we're still seeing a little bit of a

874
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 8: trend down. And one of the things is COVID really

875
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 8: shifted the way that youth homelessness looks like and in

876
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 8: Los Angeles and all of homelessness, but youth holmlessness in particular,

877
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 8: and I don't think we still really understand what that means.

878
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 8: And that's one of our things like, I think we

879
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 8: have a lot of unanswered questions about youth homelessness post

880
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 8: COVID because we haven't had the ability to go out

881
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 8: and and really get like an accurate assessment of what's

882
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 8: currently happening. I think we saw a lot more young people.

883
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 8: Young people are really resilient, and we saw a lot

884
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 8: more young people kind of tapping into that CouchSurfing, tapping

885
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 8: into these you know, relationships that they could they could

886
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 8: double up. We have a service provider friend that at

887
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 8: my friend's place and she said, you know, the worst

888
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 8: thing that ever happened to their services was COVID when

889
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 8: they had it close, because she's like, the one thing

890
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 8: that we offered was that consistency, like that someone that

891
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 8: we will be open always in that time. And the

892
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 8: second that we lost that, young people just didn't come

893
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 8: back because they weren't sure if it would be open.

894
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 8: And so there's just already less young people going in

895
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 8: and getting services. But also before COVID was happening, there

896
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 8: are a lot more housing options for young people. Prior

897
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 8: to COVID, we worked really closely with the agency in

898
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 8: Venice that had a high number of young people experiencing

899
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 8: homelessness on the boardwalk, there was no youth specific housing

900
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 8: on the west side of LA In a week or

901
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 8: so or in the next couple months, a safe place

902
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 8: for youth is you know, cutting the ribbon to a

903
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 8: permanent supportive housing unit there. And so there's already like

904
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 8: notably more housing options. Right, So we have seen that

905
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,439
Speaker 8: it's not enough. But what we as advocates are trying

906
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 8: to say is we have been given some resources and

907
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 8: the youth system we have some intentionality, really thought about

908
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,439
Speaker 8: this and it made some progress, but we need more,

909
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 8: Like can you imagine the impact that we would have

910
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 8: if the youth system was actually funded the way that

911
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 8: it should be funded, because it's been underfunded for a

912
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 8: long time. One of our advocacy talking points is ending

913
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 8: youth homelessness is totally possible.

914
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 4: Right, there's three thousand young people. We could house three

915
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 4: thousand people.

916
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 8: We could do that pretty quickly, as opposed to you know,

917
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 8: forty five thousand people beyond that that's a little bit overwhelming, right,

918
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 8: But if we house three thousand young people, there's a

919
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 8: stat that we have that one in five adults in

920
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 8: permanent support of housing downtown had their first experience of

921
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 8: homelessness before twenty five, so that would have at least

922
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 8: a minimum of one fifth of a system impact would

923
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 8: like be reduced.

924
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: You know.

925
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 5: One of the things that I wanted to point out

926
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 5: because there is like you mentioned downtown there now have

927
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 5: like a youth home houselessness kind of program too. But

928
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 5: also like for example, when I was the activist in

929
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 5: Residents and I was figuring UCLA has for a young

930
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 5: because there were so many on housed youth there, particularly

931
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 5: during COVID because when it closed they were not able

932
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 5: to get back to families or then they were relying

933
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 5: on the same you know, kind of loose skeleton kind

934
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 5: of systems too over to survive. Like the guest I

935
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 5: had here was able to try to be several steps ahead.

936
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 5: But when you have COVID and you're just on house

937
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 5: and youth, they needed something to be able to counteract

938
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,439
Speaker 5: because there was obviously a lot of numbers of youth

939
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 5: on house. And it was very telling that one at

940
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 5: the end of one of my speeches, one of the

941
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 5: unhoused youth students came up to me and was so thankful,

942
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 5: And then the next time I went, you know, it

943
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 5: gave them courage to say, I'm college student here, I'm

944
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 5: on house. See the look on the students' faces to

945
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 5: realize that they're sitting next to you know, it's just

946
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 5: you don't know, you know, just you know, it's just

947
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 5: not one layer of the onion. That's just what I

948
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 5: wanted to say.

949
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I forgot about that shelter. Yeah, it's a perfect example.

950
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 8: And I think, you know, these housing and these resources

951
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 8: that have come online is a result of a lot

952
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 8: of really great advocacy from a lot of really amazing people,

953
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:13,720
Speaker 8: including young people.

954
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 4: The youth system used to be.

955
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 8: A little bit of like, let's just take the adult

956
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 8: system and kind yeah, and that doesn't work, And so

957
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 8: there's done a lot of effort about like youth specific

958
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 8: designing programs that you know are going to be the

959
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 8: best for young people.

960
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 4: Right that often the pathways.

961
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 8: Into homelessness for a young person are often different than

962
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 8: pathways into homelessness for an adult, So you would think

963
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 8: that the pathway out would also be different. Things have

964
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 8: gotten harder and harder, you know, in economics are being

965
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 8: like one of the biggest drivers of homelessness. That's becoming

966
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 8: the biggest driver of homelessness. So I also just want

967
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 8: to preface that that most of this is because the

968
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 8: rent is too damn high and the wages are too

969
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 8: damn low. So like that's a big problem. But you know,

970
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 8: as a listeners advocates like, wow, this is working in

971
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 8: an environment that's completely hostile to everyone. Yeah, and we

972
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 8: do have to make some really big, serious changes at

973
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:11,720
Speaker 8: some big levels.

974
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 4: And it's overwhelming in nonsense too.

975
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 5: And I think too sometimes our society was so help

976
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 5: bent on trying to make it a one type binary

977
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 5: because if you could blame the person that is experiencing houselessness,

978
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 5: it's easier to retract services, retract empathy, retract a kind

979
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 5: of a caring eye to the situation. But now that

980
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 5: the thing is exploded, particularly with like the governor Abbot

981
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 5: sending a house migrants and immigrants to other places, dumping

982
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 5: them into places, the conversation, it's like I said, the horses.

983
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: Out the barn, We cannot bring them, you know, close

984
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 1: the barn.

985
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 5: Now that the horse is there, it's out there and

986
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 5: it's open for people to look at and to look

987
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 5: at and to search for the empathy and humanity. But

988
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 5: I was talking to and I wanted to include you

989
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 5: in the conversation.

990
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,959
Speaker 1: So I want to ask you this question.

991
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 5: It's like, as a podcaster, when you're talking with your guests,

992
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 5: what is the common theme on occurrences that they want

993
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 5: to emphasize if you will.

994
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 3: I think one of the things that we've definitely that

995
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 3: we want to highlight is a youth voices and hearing

996
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 3: those stories because you know, so often you were talking

997
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 3: about earlier about that man, and I think so often

998
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 3: there's so much stigma is like oh, these young people

999
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 3: don't want to work, or there's it's a you have

1000
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 3: to understand. And also Robin's point of we live in

1001
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 3: a city where there's a lot of us who can

1002
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 3: afford to make three times the rent. So when you're

1003
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 3: asking a young person with no rental history who's working

1004
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 3: a minimum way job, like technically they can't afford to

1005
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 3: be in your apartment, but you're just making it so

1006
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 3: hard for them to be there. So I think hearing

1007
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 3: those stories and recognizing its young people are not lady

1008
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 3: and it's not that they're not working or whatnot. I

1009
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 3: just think it's that it is a very hostyle city

1010
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 3: to people who are making minimum agent who are also

1011
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 3: young people. And I think The second people that we

1012
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 3: definitely want to hear or that I'm talking to are

1013
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 3: frontline workers. I think from talking to other people and

1014
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 3: also seeing the discord between having an organizational leader CEOs viewpoint,

1015
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 3: I think not to throw shade at them, but there

1016
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 3: was an ORG who reached out and they's just they

1017
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 3: wanted their CEO on the podcast and we just had compositions.

1018
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 3: It's just like sometimes the people at the way top

1019
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 3: don't know what's going on at the bottom. So I

1020
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 3: think having frontline workers like day staff and people who

1021
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 3: have been doing this for years, who are also activists

1022
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 3: in their own way, who are also and it doesn't

1023
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 3: have to be in the homeless system. It just has

1024
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 3: to be, you know, someone who's trying to make a

1025
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 3: change in LA or bring light into situations that are

1026
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 3: going on in LA. I think those are the conversations

1027
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 3: that I've been meaningful for me to talk to and

1028
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 3: also learn, because you can learn a lot from a

1029
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 3: CEO and their experience and how they got to an

1030
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 3: ORG and what they're doing or what their org is about.

1031
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 3: But the CEO of I don't want to say, like

1032
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 3: LA Mission, I don't know if he's there every day

1033
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 3: like on the ground talking to the people who are

1034
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 3: walking in and out every day. So it's like, you

1035
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 3: want to talk to the front desk person because that

1036
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 3: front desk person's probably heard more stories and talk to

1037
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 3: a lot of those folks that are coming in and

1038
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 3: out every day more than someone who's up high that position.

1039
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 3: So I think part of why I really got involved

1040
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 3: with Lenscoe was always like and also yeah, having young

1041
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 3: people to the front was always like, if you're going

1042
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 3: to fix homelessness, like, why are young people not at

1043
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 3: the table to talk about their experiences and why they're there?

1044
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 3: Why or not the front line workers, Like why you

1045
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 3: not getting their input about what they're list hearing and seeing.

1046
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 3: You know, when you're trying to implement things because you're

1047
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 3: asking people who are high up in a C suite

1048
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 3: that are very disconnected. You know, when you look at

1049
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 3: how much all these people are last and how much

1050
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 3: money they make, it's like you, it's the same amount

1051
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 3: of money that your people in your HRT teams are making,

1052
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 3: and those are the ones on the ground who are

1053
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 3: actually seeing what's actually going on. So I think for

1054
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 3: me having guests on, I think those are the stories

1055
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 3: that I've wanted to hear from. Is just people who've

1056
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 3: done hands on direct services, but also people like Shyla Myers,

1057
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 3: who's like a lawyer and is very knowledgeable and stuff like,

1058
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 3: you know. I think a huge part of it has

1059
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 3: also been about me learning because I don't know a lot.

1060
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 3: I didn't go to college to be work as a

1061
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 3: social work or be in the system. So I think

1062
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 3: having people on that also educate and maybe try to

1063
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 3: change the minds of namebies or people who are listening

1064
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 3: who may not know who have a different image. It's

1065
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 3: like if you talk into a lawyer who who can

1066
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 3: explain and break down something to you, you know, journalists

1067
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 3: who can explain why they're writing about certain things, or

1068
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 3: young person or city official like whatever. That looks like.

1069
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 3: If the people that are listening to you do not

1070
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 3: have an entry point into the system and don't work

1071
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 3: in the system, how can I have people who are

1072
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 3: actually on the ground, involved in the system to educate

1073
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 3: you and me about what's actually going on. I think

1074
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 3: that's been one of the reasons why I've been excited

1075
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 3: about the guests we've had on.

1076
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 8: Youth Homelessness is so one of the things that we

1077
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 8: kind of think of the podcast is youth homelessness is

1078
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 8: so intersectionual, right, So you know, the mission of the

1079
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 8: podcast is to both hear from young people and bring

1080
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 8: their voices to the front, but also to learn about

1081
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 8: the things that impact and cause youth homelessness. Just that

1082
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 8: allows us to you know, speak to so many different people.

1083
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 8: You know, we've had someone that you know is doing

1084
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 8: a nonprofit specifically for foster care, younge people. We did

1085
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 8: have Shila Myers, you know, we had even Alisa Walker

1086
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 8: results on recently. So and we're going to get.

1087
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: You on earlier. But I can return I.

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Speaker 8: Can be returning this because it's so expansive. It just

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Speaker 8: really does allow us to learn so much, right or

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Speaker 8: because we have a mission and an issue that is

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Speaker 8: so expansive.

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Speaker 1: We'll finish this conversation after the break.

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Speaker 3: And we're back.

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Speaker 5: It all interconnects, and I do with my show similarly,

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Speaker 5: is to connect the dots, like the housing with the

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Speaker 5: hillside villa, but also show the different branches. It's so

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Speaker 5: many facts of houselessness that you know, to listen in

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Speaker 5: the show, you get you learn because I've learned a

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Speaker 5: lot because of course it's not binary that everyone got

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Speaker 5: sick and ended up on the street. But I learned

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Speaker 5: so many branches of the tree on I would say

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Speaker 5: the tree of life, but the tree of houselessness and

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Speaker 5: the displacement and how it connect.

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Speaker 1: Have I missed anything that you guys want to talk about?

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 8: I was like, you said five things, just so I

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Speaker 8: have a ton of thinks. I think I want to

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Speaker 8: talk about Grant's Past for a second. You said if

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Speaker 8: people are watching to see who's going to be the

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Speaker 8: most egregious, and it's gonna be California, when it's gonna be.

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Speaker 4: In Los Angeles, I think.

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Speaker 8: And oh and I heard that things are really gearing

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Speaker 8: up in San Francisco, right, yes, yes, yeah, and all

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Speaker 8: eyes are on California. I mean, Gavin Newsom has a

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Speaker 8: national platform talking about this stuff.

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Speaker 4: It's really it's really wild.

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Speaker 8: But when the Grant's Past decision was made, one of

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Speaker 8: the things is that really well, everyone came out with

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Speaker 8: a statement, right do you remember reading Everyone was like, oh,

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Speaker 8: we totally don't agree with this statement, blah blah blah,

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Speaker 8: all this stuff. Everyone came out and I think, you know,

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Speaker 8: maybe it was because we've been I've been out you know,

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Speaker 8: working in Los Angeles on this stuff for a while.

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Speaker 8: We came out with the state, we said, this grants

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Speaker 8: pass is a terrible thing that just happened. But we

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Speaker 8: were like, this is totally expected. We know that in

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Speaker 8: Los Angeles homelessness has been illegal for years. If you

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Speaker 8: know like that, our government has already been criminalizing people

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Speaker 8: and displacing people. So you know, we were kind of like,

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Speaker 8: now y'all are just tuning in, like, no, learn about

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01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 8: what's really happening, Like this has been happening here locally

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Speaker 8: this entire time. Gavin Newsom and Heidi in our city

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Speaker 8: Council and Heidi Funk, they wrote to the Supreme Court

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Speaker 8: and said, please turn this over.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know like that.

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Speaker 8: And we were, yeah, our government was doing that, and

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Speaker 8: where were you guys when when they were no knowledgeably

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Speaker 8: doing that? You know, we all we knew that that

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Speaker 8: was happening, and you know, people kind of jump on

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Speaker 8: after the fact, which I think was a you know,

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Speaker 8: but that happens.

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Speaker 5: I guess it's like sometimes you don't really realize the

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01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 5: injustice until it's right in your face or is affecting

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01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 5: you personally. Yeah, like now, like for example, San Diego

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Speaker 5: and Santa Monica is working to have a band against

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01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 5: pillows and blankets for unhouse people.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so.

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Speaker 5: It's like I've been like in a way, I feel

1149
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 5: like I'm like cisphinging trying to pull up that stone,

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Speaker 5: letting people that are attuned to foreign injustices, which they

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01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 5: should be, and like most injustices, we all all have

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01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 5: justices require some kind of response. But it seems like

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Speaker 5: there's a glitch in the comprehension of how visus Palestine

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Speaker 5: is happening here. Palestine has been happening here, and on

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Speaker 5: your way to these protests, you're walking stepping over during

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Speaker 5: the heat wave unhoused people. Which is why I've been

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Speaker 5: on my you know, like I've been on my soapbox

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Speaker 5: every year. Every place I go that's in a heat

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Speaker 5: wave zone, I make a mention where the cooling centers?

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Speaker 5: Like when I was in Washington, I'm like, I'm looking

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Speaker 5: at unhoused people on the ground, where are the cooling service?

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Speaker 5: Why we don't have places where some places offer to

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Speaker 5: drive unhouse.

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Speaker 1: People to these cooling centers.

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Speaker 5: You know, you're expecting them to take all of their

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Speaker 5: stuff and then find out that they have a two

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Speaker 5: bag limit and then all of a sudden they can't

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Speaker 5: get into the place and now they're stranded. We need

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Speaker 5: to really think about our humanity and empathy factor here.

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Speaker 1: And that's again I'm getting on.

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Speaker 5: My clothes, but I just there's small things that I

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Speaker 5: just just really because I my own health. When I

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Speaker 5: was out in Elmonte, I literally had to take several

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Speaker 5: days off because it was so the incline, the terrain,

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Speaker 5: the heat, and the fact that you had people older

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Speaker 5: than me telling people that they had ten to fifteen

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Speaker 5: minutes to move their stuff. It's just, I mean, it

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Speaker 5: was the border on the ridiculous. I don't even know

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Speaker 5: why that was would have been improved and thought that

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Speaker 5: that was going to be acceptable, and then threatening them

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Speaker 5: with the rest if they don't hurt a move. I mean,

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Speaker 5: it just these things need to be Grant's Pass needs

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Speaker 5: to be on the tongue of everybody here in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 5: It's California in general, and how we should be fighting

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Speaker 5: against it.

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Speaker 1: But that's my thing.

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Speaker 3: So we and you've talked about it too, Robin, is

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Speaker 3: that one of the things that we do is that

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Speaker 3: we now live in the digital era where everything is

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Speaker 3: videotaped and is tiktoks and people are able to take

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Speaker 3: their phones and record everything, and I think that has

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Speaker 3: helped in the public education of what's going on. People

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Speaker 3: are able to tell their stories, like I love seeing

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Speaker 3: the stories of people who are getting house because of

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Speaker 3: TikTok and other videos that I think one of the

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Speaker 3: things that I want people to learn about is a

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Speaker 3: lot of us. I think if you live in this city,

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Speaker 3: you twice or once removed from a person who's somehow

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Speaker 3: involved in the community doing things, so you know, like

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Speaker 3: organizations like water Drop that are doing water distributions every

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Speaker 3: sun day, you know, down in schedule on downtown, Like

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Speaker 3: how just raising awareness and being like how can we

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Speaker 3: use our platform to educate people and know way they

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Speaker 3: can get plugged in because I think there is a

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Speaker 3: majority of us there are very opposed to grants pass

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Speaker 3: and I think we need to let that be known

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Speaker 3: because I think they've made us think that they're in

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Speaker 3: the majority, But realistically, I don't think anyone sees the

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Speaker 3: treatment like I could barely be in my own house

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Speaker 3: like this past week with the with the severe heat wave,

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Speaker 3: and to know and in talking to water Drop and

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Speaker 3: hearing how many of the water going scisions downtown are

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Speaker 3: not even working. It's just like all these despicable things

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Speaker 3: that have been happening for years and whatnot, and people

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Speaker 3: are now just tuning in. There is a part of

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Speaker 3: it where I'm like, great, but also like start calling in,

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Speaker 3: start showing up for public comment. Like I know it's

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Speaker 3: boring to sit down at city Hall and just wait

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Speaker 3: for your turn, but it does make a difference, and

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Speaker 3: you know it helps you educate you, but you can

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01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 3: also educate your neighbors and your family, and I think

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Speaker 3: together we can work to improve our city. And I

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Speaker 3: think one of the biggest things that I've learned and

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01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,799
Speaker 3: that drives me in this work and how I see people,

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Speaker 3: is remembering that, above all else, these are human beings

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Speaker 3: that you're talking about. One of the things that I

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Speaker 3: always tell people is like half of these nambies and

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Speaker 3: half these people that are complaining about homelessness in La

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Speaker 3: are not even from La. And it's like you're complaining

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Speaker 3: about someone who's lived in this city way longer than you,

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Speaker 3: Like this is more their city than it is your city.

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Speaker 3: So remembering to see these people as human beings and

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Speaker 3: not the perception of their current circumstances. I think is

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Speaker 3: the biggest thing that I strive to try to teach people.

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Speaker 3: And the thing is you can't fault for people for

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01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 3: not educating themselves and not knowing. Like if I educate

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Speaker 3: you and then you choose not to hear it and listen,

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01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 3: then that's on you. But I recognize that a lot

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01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 3: of people are moving here, and I know several people

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01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 3: who've now lived in LA for a minute and have

1241
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 3: never been downtown in LA. But yet you're opposed to homelessness,

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01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 3: and you have this weird perception of things. I think, Hey,

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01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 3: I always want to teach people. It's like find out

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01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 3: a way you can get involved and meet people and

1245
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 3: hear their stories, because when you get to see them

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Speaker 3: as human beings, then it changes your perception about the

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Speaker 3: whole situation.

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Speaker 5: One more thing I have to do because I always

1249
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 5: try to do this and I don't do succeed. But

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Speaker 5: I must admit too that everyone that comes through California

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Speaker 5: has been fed by someone that was un housed. If

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Speaker 5: you have gone to the grocery store and picked out vegetables, fruit,

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01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 5: you are dealing with people that pick those things that

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01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 5: are living out there in the fields on house with

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01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 5: nowhere to go. So we must understand it. And I

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Speaker 5: try to tell them, like, you have been impacted by

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01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 5: the labor of unhoused person that can't afford the place

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01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 5: to have a stable place to live, that feeds you,

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Speaker 5: and you're able to freak the nourishment or take the

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01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 5: nourishment of them, and then you can then you're utilizing

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Speaker 5: your platform to demonize and criminalize. I want that to

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01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 5: sit into many people's minds. If you have had a banana,

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Speaker 5: if you had a bell pepper, or you've made any

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01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 5: type of cuisine, or you've been in a restaurant, or

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Speaker 5: you've eaten somewhere, you have been had at least one

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01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 5: unhoused person vegetable fruits or what have you that has

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Speaker 5: picked that and you are eating or imbibing on that food.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so that's a great point. I've never really thought

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01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:47,679
Speaker 8: of it that way. Bringing back to the grants Pass

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Speaker 8: and the advocacy showing up, I think, you know, we

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01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 8: were really active as activists and how you know, a

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01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 8: really powerful showing folks that were coming out, coming out

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01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 8: to city hall, you know, showing up, showing up at

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Speaker 8: sweeps and all those things going back to even like

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Speaker 8: you know, Echo Park, I got three thousand people to

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01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 8: email Mitchell Ferrell. You know, yeah, we not beyond even

1277
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 8: just like the folks that were showing up. We have

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01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 8: we had the majority of people in the public on

1279
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 8: our side and agreeing that forty one eighteen is wrong.

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Speaker 8: You know, kicking displacing people out of Eco Park Lake

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01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:31,640
Speaker 8: overnight with the fence is incredibly inhumane and violent, like

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01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 8: most people believe that. But then yet we we lust

1283
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 8: our forty one to eighteen battle multiple times to the

1284
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 8: point where our elected officials were like, we don't care,

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Speaker 8: you know, really that they they really just didn't care

1286
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 8: about the public opinion and they were just going to

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01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 8: do what they were going to do because of certain

1288
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 8: groups of power. Who was a Hollywood exec that was

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Speaker 8: doing all the things.

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Speaker 1: Ah, it was a billionaire, wasn't he.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, gosh, it's been.

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01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 1: So Long'senburg or something like that?

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Speaker 8: Yes, yes, Katzenberg Jack Ktsenberg, Yeah, yeah, yeah, was coming

1294
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 8: in and you know, they do what he says. So

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Speaker 8: I think, you know, it's really hard to have all

1296
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 8: those defeats and putting all that time and energy to

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Speaker 8: take those ls and so I think it's been hard

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Speaker 8: to kind of get people to show up in the

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Speaker 8: same way because of that. But I think that also

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Speaker 8: on the side is you know, we really it is

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Speaker 8: a long game, right, this is a really voting is

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Speaker 8: so important. We have the opportunity at this next election

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Speaker 8: to potentially get two more progressive seats, and if that happened,

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Speaker 8: like that would be you know, incredible. As much we

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Speaker 8: should really be making sure that we're supporting those progressive

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Speaker 8: electeds that are in right now. We may disagree with

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Speaker 8: things that they do from time to time, and you

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Speaker 8: can critique and that that's totally within everyone's right to

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Speaker 8: do that.

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Speaker 4: But you know, that's where we really.

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Speaker 8: Need to also be putting a lot of energy and

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Speaker 8: education into, right, is how powerful those local elected are.

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Speaker 8: And then the other thing, this is another plug. We've

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Speaker 8: been spending a lot we're spending in the next month

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Speaker 8: just campaigning for Measure A, which.

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Speaker 1: What's just Measure A. So for our listeners to understand this, so.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Measure A.

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Speaker 8: So this is going to be people that live in

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Speaker 8: Los Angeles, Los Angeles County.

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Speaker 4: This will be on your ballot. It's really important.

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Speaker 8: So Measure A is going to be a measure that

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Speaker 8: ensures that, you know, our homelessness and homelessness system is

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Speaker 8: funded and funded even more so to a way that

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Speaker 8: kind of have an impact end homelessness in the next

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Speaker 8: ten years. Currently, right now, there is a measure called

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Speaker 8: Measure H and that was passed ten years ago and

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Speaker 8: it's expiring. Measure A is like the new superpowered Measure H. Okay,

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Speaker 8: So it is it's a sales tax and it's projected

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Speaker 8: to generate at least one point two billion dollars for

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Speaker 8: homelessness services across La County per year. So there's two

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Speaker 8: things like, if we do pass this, it's incredible. We

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Speaker 8: get a lot more resources. The resources are more expansive.

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Speaker 8: Money goes directly to the cities to housing infrastructure that

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Speaker 8: Measure H didn't have. There's a lot more of like

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Speaker 8: renter protections and things like that. Part of Measure A,

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Speaker 8: something that I've been on the sub box for a

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Speaker 8: long time is ensuring that the labor and the people

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Speaker 8: that work in the homelessness sector are going to get

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Speaker 8: pay increases and make sure that these organizations are getting

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Speaker 8: funded fully and all those things. So that's why we're

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Speaker 8: putting in a lot of effort to that. One thing

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Speaker 8: also that we've been talking about about Measure A. I

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Speaker 8: think it's actually really interesting and different than Measure H.

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Speaker 8: Measure H was also a sales tax. It was maybe

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Speaker 8: like a quarter penny. Now it's moving up to a halfpenny.

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Speaker 8: But for Measure A, it's actually you don't get taxed

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Speaker 8: on things like groceries, diapers, like gas, like kind of

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Speaker 8: those essential items. So they have this Basically, if you

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Speaker 8: spend one hundred dollars on a they say on a

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Speaker 8: tennis rocket, you're building a quarter into the homelessness system.

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Speaker 8: So it's a tax i'll impact folks that are spending

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Speaker 8: more of their disposable income will be contributing more, which

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Speaker 8: I think that's also a progressive and good idea and

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Speaker 8: an improvement on the previous sales chech. So something that

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Speaker 8: we should be highlighting. But yeah, Measure A, that's where

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Speaker 8: we're putting our efforts into and so vote yes.

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Speaker 4: We can say vote yes.

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Speaker 8: We've endorsed it and that's what we'll be doing some

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Speaker 8: events around it too. If you follow us on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for that. Is there anything should you like that?

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Speaker 3: Tony? Yeah, one thought that I feel like it's been

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Speaker 3: on my mind since the beginning. Is COVID reminded us

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Speaker 3: all of us that were all humans that you know,

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Speaker 3: we can all die at any given points. So I

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Speaker 3: think that's I don't want see this has been a

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Speaker 3: blessing in it because people lost their lives, but I

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Speaker 3: think it was just as a reminder that people were

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Speaker 3: able to get off their phone and build community. And

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Speaker 3: I think I'm grateful that out of a tragedy and

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Speaker 3: a pandemic that's still going on, the more community is

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Speaker 3: that more people have come together to you know, create

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Speaker 3: a lot of mutual aids that are helping in situations

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Speaker 3: because you know, we've recognized the time and time half

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Speaker 3: of these politicians are not on our side and do

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Speaker 3: not have the best interest for people who are in house.

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Speaker 3: So I am one of the things that I'm always

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Speaker 3: I want to start doing more often is uplifting community

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Speaker 3: organizations that are oriented in helping in house folks and

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Speaker 3: do have you know, like like I mentioned water Drop

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Speaker 3: and you know them needing volunteers to you know, distribute water.

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Speaker 3: So I think if you if you're a listener and

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Speaker 3: you really want to get learn and the beauty of

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Speaker 3: it is that there's there's so many house folks across LA.

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Speaker 3: Like you don't have to travel from West LA to

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Speaker 3: go downtown to to be there to help. Like there's

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Speaker 3: orgs in the West LA, there's orgs in South LA.

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Speaker 3: Like wherever it is that you live in this city,

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Speaker 3: there's a community org or a mutual aid in your

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Speaker 3: neighborhood you can get involved in. And most of them,

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Speaker 3: you know, just they just want you to show up

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Speaker 3: and help, like you know, they're not like, you know,

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Speaker 3: people asking you for money, Like, yeah, money would be great,

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Speaker 3: but a lot of these places just want people to

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Speaker 3: show up. And you can also build community because a

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Speaker 3: lot of us isolated a lot during COVID. So I'm

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Speaker 3: glad that a lot of these beutrades and community orgs

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Speaker 3: have popped up since the pandemic because it is also

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Speaker 3: a great way to build community and learn a lot

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Speaker 3: about the city that you live in.

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Speaker 4: It's a great plug, yes.

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Speaker 5: And this is an excellent place. Punctuation mark To end

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Speaker 5: this show, I want to thank again and hopefully invite

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Speaker 5: back doctor Robin Petering give your plug again.

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Speaker 8: From Young People afront were yp twof dot org is

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Speaker 8: our website Tony.

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Speaker 3: And Young People at the Front on Instagram, and please

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Speaker 3: listen to our podcast Young People at the Front on

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Speaker 3: any streaming services that you.

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Speaker 1: Listen to excellent.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much doctor Robin Petering and Tony Saint

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Speaker 5: James for bed time and wisdom. To learn more about

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Speaker 5: their work, you can follow Young People to the Front

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Speaker 5: on Instagram and another huge thank you to Empty. That's

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Speaker 5: it for another outstanding episode and we hope to see

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Speaker 5: you next time when we will be discussing the Inn

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Speaker 5: Housed and voting with doctor Caitlin Crinn and Ruth Lesser.

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