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Speaker 1: All Michael Kiss to sit down with Thomas, this guy,

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Speaker 1: how are you?

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Speaker 2: How are you? What's going on? I'm looking forward to this,

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Speaker 2: this interview. I'm looking forward to sitting down and chopping

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Speaker 2: it up. The ashtray for his juice flute is. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure it's gonna get really, really interesting. Yeah. Also, watermelon pineapple.

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Speaker 3: Is so many that's exactly.

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Speaker 4: He's from the Great Northwest. He's a UFC Walter Waite.

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Speaker 4: He loves chocolate, Thomas. But despite all those factors, we

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Speaker 4: love him just the same. Welcome to Room Service Diaries,

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Speaker 4: Luke Thomas, Brian Campbell and the guest of the hour,

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Speaker 4: the one and only Michael Kis a round.

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Speaker 5: Of A plus Mike thev Real Talk, Real Talk. When

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Speaker 5: we pitched the idea of the show, and this is

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Speaker 5: the first time we're taking on the road.

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Speaker 3: We're happy to be in Vegas.

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Speaker 5: But our short list of guests of anybody was like,

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Speaker 5: we gotta get this guy because the show.

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Speaker 3: She's one of us.

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Speaker 5: Now in the end, that's an insult because we're absolutely

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Speaker 5: but he's one of us.

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Speaker 6: All Right, I'm one of the I'm one of I'm

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Speaker 6: one of I'm a fine I'm a fine fan of

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Speaker 6: being a degenerate.

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Speaker 2: So gentlemen, welcome, Welcome. I cheers you.

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Speaker 4: I can't think alcohol right now, but I appreciate you

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Speaker 4: being here. So you're in town real quickly? Are you

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Speaker 4: doing some desk work for UFC?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I worked the Shrookian gam Rock main event, which,

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Speaker 3: by the way, phenomenal, freaking the best fun ass. That's

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Speaker 3: the future of mixed martial arts.

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Speaker 6: That fight we saw in itself, and I'm sure we're

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Speaker 6: gonna unpack that at any point in time. But yeah,

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Speaker 6: I did work the fights last weekend. I figured I'd

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Speaker 6: just stick around for International Fight Week.

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Speaker 2: So how did you get that gig?

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Speaker 3: There was a few moments.

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Speaker 6: Where I think I I think I had a post

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Speaker 6: of just started chirping about it.

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Speaker 2: I think I did a few interviews and talked about it.

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Speaker 6: I actually snatched aerials Mike one time when he was

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Speaker 6: doing like a backstage interview.

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Speaker 2: I was like, give me your MinC and I started.

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Speaker 6: Interviewing him, and then I think DC he kind of

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Speaker 6: had something to do with. He took me to a

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Speaker 6: dinner with and sat me next to Zach, the guy

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Speaker 6: in charge of the hiring Zach cam Yes, sat me

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Speaker 6: next to him and he's like, Hey, do you know

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Speaker 2: Go, yeah, that's Zach. He goes, No, that's the guy.

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Speaker 3: That's the guy. And I'm like, dude, just guy. I

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Speaker 3: worked with that esp long time. Did you really? Oh?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he was the he was You remember ESPNS Live,

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Speaker 5: which which had an impact, right John Annika, You know

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Speaker 5: for shot Evans. He was the producer of that show,

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Speaker 5: and I was sort of one of the like editors

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Speaker 5: who would see the final product and critique any any issues.

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Speaker 5: But that show launched so many careers. So shout out

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Speaker 5: to Zach there about your broadcasting work. I did want

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Speaker 5: to start there because you're already making a very nice

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Speaker 5: transition even though you're in the midst you know, of the.

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Speaker 3: Prime of your career. How do you gauge yourself now?

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Speaker 5: We say on record, we like your work a lot

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Speaker 5: on camera, but I know this game as well, and

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Speaker 5: how confident are you when you.

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Speaker 3: Put on the suit and sit there in terms of

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Speaker 3: what you're putting on? It took some time.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, it took a lot of time because.

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Speaker 6: You have to figure out what you're trying to do

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Speaker 6: like when for me, you know, I eat, sleep, and

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Speaker 6: breathe mixed martial arts.

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Speaker 2: This is all I do.

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Speaker 6: So when I have to break a fight down, dude,

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Speaker 6: I have a list of a ton of things x as,

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Speaker 6: express all that. So it took me time to figure out, like, hey,

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Speaker 2: Because when it when I would get I would overwhelm myself.

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Speaker 6: And they're in your ear and I don't I didn't

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Speaker 2: And so I'm you know, Jack John, I'm like, you

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh shoot.

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Speaker 6: So once I kind of figured that out and got comfortable, man,

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Speaker 6: convenient when you're out here like we're you know, eighty

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Speaker 2: So it doesn't disrupt the training, it doesn't disrupt.

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Speaker 6: You know what, what's ultimately the most important thing, which

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a good advertisement too.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's a lot of fun and you know,

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Speaker 6: I'm glad the pieces came together for it.

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Speaker 3: You know, my manager had a big part in that too, So.

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Speaker 4: Shut Off Danny Rule shout out to really really he

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Speaker 4: had a hard part in that, did he.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's a skeptical hippo.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, he he knows what I want, you know,

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Speaker 6: I think he did a good job kind of kind

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Speaker 3: You're brushing shoulders, are the right people and try to

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Speaker 3: make an impression and.

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Speaker 2: Do you do you want to do commentary?

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Speaker 6: Yes, I will be I will be a UFC octagon

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Speaker 6: side commentator one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: That's what that's the goal.

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Speaker 3: That that is, like, yeah, that's always been the goal

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Speaker 6: Like, you know, I don't want to just be a

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Speaker 6: to due time because commentating takes so much work, like

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Speaker 6: when fans bust when they when they bust their balls,

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Speaker 6: it drives me up the wall because these guys prepare

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Speaker 6: so much like just to do a desk show where

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Speaker 6: you're only highlighting a few fights, where I just have,

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Speaker 6: that's easy. But to be there, to have your facts

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Speaker 2: It takes so much work. So I hate it when

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Speaker 6: And for me, if that call came now, I jump

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Speaker 6: because it's that that is when you're really I don't

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Speaker 6: a commentator, values competing and everything else, Party down Cruise.

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Speaker 3: It was the reason why is because he has much film.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, also we don't do the same kind of work.

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Speaker 4: But when me and BC roll up to the desk

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Speaker 3: That makes preparation a little bit easier.

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Speaker 4: I will say though, that like the one thing I

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Speaker 4: mma commentary, it's all sports commentary is hard. Yeah, but

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Speaker 4: miss so much do you have a chance to kind

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Speaker 6: Now to mention if you're sitting down calling a fight.

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Speaker 6: So I do commentary for LFA. That's kind of where

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Speaker 5: Those reps you're getting there, by the way, are going

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's good to get comfortable.

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Speaker 6: But it's true, it's when you're watching a fight, it's

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Speaker 6: like you want to make a point, turn to the guy.

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Speaker 6: And in this sport, it's not like baseball. You hear

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Speaker 6: a fight could be over and you can miss it.

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Speaker 6: Even Paul and I were talking on UFC Roundup Shouts

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Speaker 6: the UFC Round Up. Anybody has a list of mind

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Speaker 6: in Paul Felder's podcast. Want to check it out. It's

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Speaker 6: great stuff. Sorry I'm advertising on.

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Speaker 2: Your shup the fuck out.

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Speaker 3: I told you I was a degenerate. This is what

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Speaker 6: But you know, he even said he didn't even know

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Speaker 3: Dropped to the spinning back this round four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because he was like in the he was in

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Speaker 3: I think there was the angle. I mean, obviously they're

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Speaker 2: I mean they're firing on all cylinders.

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Speaker 6: But it's like, just like you said, you're making a

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Speaker 3: A baseball game, you're up high.

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Speaker 6: A football game, you're up high, like you can see

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Speaker 3: So but yeah, things happen so fast when you're acting

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Speaker 2: How about the Chucks for Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They're good. Yeah, I can't complain. I'm fine's great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah they're great. It's good.

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Speaker 3: It's nice. You know.

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Speaker 2: It's like when money is stupid. Money it is, it's

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Speaker 2: but it's like, uh, you got to keep it humble,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: It's this is not it's as much as I want.

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Speaker 6: To say it's a career because I've been I've been

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Speaker 6: in the UFC for ten years. I've been at this

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Speaker 6: for fourteen years, I do believe is his opportunity. So,

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Speaker 6: especially in these instances where you're working television, the UFC

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Speaker 6: can sell to you know, they could go from ESPN

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Speaker 6: back to Fox and they might just like we're done

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Speaker 6: with these.

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Speaker 3: Guys, and that would be out of the UFC's hands.

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Speaker 4: Maybe are you do you know how much? The answers, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I don't have any idea. Do you do how much

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Speaker 4: Rogan makes? I have no idea because dude, it doesn't

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Speaker 4: get much higher than that.

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Speaker 3: I'm more obsessed with the exact height. I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 2: Five to three.

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Speaker 6: Signed with a different agency and I was unhappy, and

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Speaker 2: But that still will always come for you.

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Speaker 4: Danny's my favorite because he won't stab you in the back,

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, you know that.

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Speaker 5: I don't know Danny's background, but you know we have

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Speaker 5: One guy drove shout out to Aaron from Spokane, Washington.

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Speaker 3: He meats, I know you're talking about you know who

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Speaker 5: Well, we're about to show if you can slip in

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Speaker 3: Yahka, Luke, want to remind you that I was the

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Speaker 2: The receiver of the sausage. Yeah, that's from uh, Spokane, Washington.

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Speaker 3: We got.

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Speaker 5: Now now, shout out to our boy Aaron, who ran

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Speaker 3: Hand just way.

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Speaker 5: Whether or not that man inflicted his own sauce into

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Speaker 3: Luke eat it and he loved it.

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Speaker 5: But one thing he echoed on Aaron did, that's all

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Speaker 3: It's basically Land Jeger and Kiessa. That's dude, that's all

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Speaker 6: I met Aaron so he owns Eggers Meats in Spokane.

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Speaker 3: Great meat block, great butcher block. Oh so this guy's legit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy's legit.

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Speaker 4: We just thought the team goes, he's gotta we go

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Speaker 2: Because I was so hungry.

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Speaker 4: It was tasty, but it was just a dude who

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Speaker 3: He's a huge he's a no, he's a huge fight man.

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Speaker 3: He's got all.

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Speaker 6: He's got a condo around New Summer. But I met

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Speaker 2: You worked at bud Wise.

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Speaker 3: I worked at tell Us this story?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how old are you? Full of story?

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Speaker 3: Is this Spokane story?

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Speaker 6: This is when I was twenty about twenty one to

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Speaker 2: It's my last job before.

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Speaker 3: So you were a piece of shit just like me.

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Speaker 3: I was still working. I was still working on the

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Speaker 2: You're dubt just like us.

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Speaker 6: I used to when I worked at Bud Dude. I

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Speaker 3: Did you deliver beer? I was.

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Speaker 6: I was a merchandisers. They drop the beers off at

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Speaker 2: You get did you get like product for free?

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Speaker 6: We didn't, Actually we didn't get product for free, but

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Speaker 6: your fill like single to my own Saint Patrick's day.

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Speaker 3: When you work for an anser Bush distributor, I.

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Speaker 4: Feel like a lot of young dudes in their twenties

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Speaker 2: After a time you're like, this, ain't that money?

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Speaker 3: Well, and at the time I'm such a fan boy.

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Speaker 6: It was cool because it's like I'm working at the

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Speaker 3: See you come in my house and it just looks like,

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Speaker 2: Just like I want to talk some drunk stories.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, point, I got plenty of Well, I was

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Speaker 3: going to say, you know, I have a famous one.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure everybody knows.

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Speaker 5: I got a fledgling you know, promotion slash gym I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he really could have. What a Spokane like. I've

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Speaker 3: Spokane's great.

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Speaker 6: It's we're on the east side of Washington State, so

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Speaker 6: I'm just saying people people think Seattle when they when

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Speaker 6: I say Spokane, they think Seattle.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's the opposite.

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Speaker 6: The weather's the opposite the people are the opposite the scene.

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Speaker 6: You live in the desert part of what you know,

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Speaker 6: I live like on the east side. The desert would

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Speaker 2: Times you ever picked like a tick off your back

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Speaker 6: Fucking just picked I just picked three ticks off my

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, I haven't got one on me yet.

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Speaker 4: But like, is it like how representative of Spokane would

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Speaker 2: No, I'm I yeah, that's a that's a fair assessment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely.

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Speaker 6: I definitely resemble Spokane, unless you're like a preppy college.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you looked even arlier to call you if

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Speaker 5: had that mini curl like mullet go nothing. I wasn't

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Speaker 5: minty with Beard, so Luke he represents blue collar.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, give him his.

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Speaker 4: I remember that one of the media days which one

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Speaker 4: I forget who you were fighting was in Brooklyn.

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Speaker 6: Maybe the one which one did I show up in

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Speaker 2: Rudy fruity Oh my god, you had the shades too, right?

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Speaker 3: That was bad. That was I would not that's one

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Speaker 2: Is that late twenties Kissa.

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Speaker 6: That was just stupid Kisso that was just me, like

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Speaker 3: It was just like stupidity.

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Speaker 6: At the time, I'm trying to be like talking ship

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Speaker 3: Never knew this. But after yeah, Cecilia was like, I

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Speaker 6: You you made me look like a total idiot. When

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Speaker 6: Sam and I dressed the same, it's like band t

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Speaker 2: We got a picture. Yes, that was it.

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Speaker 7: That was it.

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Speaker 4: I remember I asked you about it, like, yo, this

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Speaker 6: Some people would say I still have a duchebag, but

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Speaker 4: Then I didn't have enough wherein I know what was cool,

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Speaker 4: but I definitely did one of these.

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Speaker 3: No, that was bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Sam was like, dude, I you made us both

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Speaker 6: No, I knew I'd have to sell out at some

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Speaker 3: But at some point, like if.

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Speaker 6: You're gonna, if you're gonna, if you want to play

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Speaker 2: The famous drunk story with Ali Quinta. How long ago

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Speaker 2: was that now?

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Speaker 6: Oh, the tough one? Yeah, producers, Oh man, it's been

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Speaker 6: that day is like when I forged my brotherhood with Alex.

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Speaker 3: He's such a rigid New.

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Speaker 6: Persu's like, yo, tune it the fuck down or something

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Speaker 6: like whoa sorry guy, you know, but that day we

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Speaker 2: It's crazy to look back on that too.

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Speaker 3: He saw your timeshare.

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Speaker 6: No, no, there's only one time There only be one

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Speaker 6: got in deep shit for that, did you really?

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Speaker 3: I was?

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Speaker 6: I got so drunk that day out we got fine

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Speaker 6: you know these guys, know, like the sound guys with

446
00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,800
Speaker 6: a microphone. He jumped in the pool, so it like

447
00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,760
Speaker 6: exploded in their ears. And there was one guy, this

448
00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,560
Speaker 6: one guy that was an audio guy was a total

449
00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,200
Speaker 6: asshole to us the whole season, so we kind of

450
00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:20,880
Speaker 6: were taunting him.

451
00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,200
Speaker 2: He must have hated that job.

452
00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, So the producer Jamie came in. I was laying

453
00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:25,000
Speaker 3: in bed.

454
00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,360
Speaker 6: I was sick, and I had like an empty picture,

455
00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,800
Speaker 6: like laying on my little twin bed, flat on my back, and.

456
00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:31,720
Speaker 2: She comes running up the stairs.

457
00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,880
Speaker 3: She's like, you're in so much shit where you're getting fine?

458
00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:35,440
Speaker 3: Blah blah. When I sat up and like.

459
00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,000
Speaker 2: Was like, I don't give a shit blah, Like pew

460
00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:38,360
Speaker 2: to the.

461
00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:42,680
Speaker 4: Picture that every time I ask a drunk story, I

462
00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,040
Speaker 4: always need to know in reference where it stands to

463
00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,720
Speaker 4: what extent is that closest to your rock bottom story?

464
00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,800
Speaker 3: That would be That was like college kid type stuff.

465
00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,360
Speaker 3: That was like, you know that's.

466
00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,600
Speaker 6: Some Juni Browning type shit right there. No, Oh, Judy

467
00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,120
Speaker 6: Browning was a dick. Like we were like just having

468
00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,080
Speaker 6: good fun, you know what. I mean, but I don't

469
00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:00,880
Speaker 6: know if I have like a bad rock bottom drunks,

470
00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,360
Speaker 6: so I think probably you have, Like if there is.

471
00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,240
Speaker 3: One, I probably don't remember it, which is probably good.

472
00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,040
Speaker 2: No, I've got some one, I've got some. I've got some.

473
00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:09,760
Speaker 2: I got some real rock bottom ones.

474
00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,639
Speaker 3: You talk about like ship in your pants rock bottom.

475
00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,159
Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't have a ship. I do

476
00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,760
Speaker 2: have a rock bottom one, Okay, I can't.

477
00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,240
Speaker 6: This is still to this day there is a man

478
00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,639
Speaker 6: that works let me, let me, let me ash my vapor,

479
00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,520
Speaker 6: lend that thing smolder this whole time.

480
00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,240
Speaker 2: Uh UFC going on.

481
00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,600
Speaker 6: I went there after I fought Brazil. Yeah, I went

482
00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,159
Speaker 6: there after I fought Coltin Smith. I went out with

483
00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,680
Speaker 6: Christian and Marcelo and got pretty black belt. Yeah, got

484
00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,840
Speaker 6: pretty tuned up. And I woke up in somebody else's

485
00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,280
Speaker 6: hotel room and I vomited, and I woke up. I

486
00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:45,720
Speaker 6: was like, what the fuck am I like kind of

487
00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,720
Speaker 6: got mad at the guy and this is this is

488
00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,480
Speaker 6: somebody that used to work in m M A media,

489
00:17:49,840 --> 00:18:00,240
Speaker 6: A prominent guy. No, No, it's yeah, I don't care

490
00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,119
Speaker 6: at this point. It is so long ago, and it

491
00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,520
Speaker 6: was not my fault, Like I got tuned up, and

492
00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,439
Speaker 6: they I went in the cab and fell asleep, and

493
00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:07,920
Speaker 6: so they knew a hotel I was in.

494
00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:08,239
Speaker 3: In his life.

495
00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:09,800
Speaker 2: You're lucky nothing bad happened.

496
00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,440
Speaker 6: Well, I was in good hands because one of the

497
00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,480
Speaker 6: UFC employees had kind of came out and kind of

498
00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:15,400
Speaker 6: guided me home.

499
00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,880
Speaker 2: So I think she was in like the cab ahead

500
00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:18,520
Speaker 2: of me or something.

501
00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,320
Speaker 4: So yeah, mine's not quite like that. My rock bottom.

502
00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,400
Speaker 4: I used to live in New York, and I remember

503
00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,000
Speaker 4: we went out one night too. You've been You've been

504
00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:27,280
Speaker 4: like drinking in New York City at all?

505
00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:28,840
Speaker 3: Like not too much.

506
00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,800
Speaker 4: There's a famous place, I don't know it's still around,

507
00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,240
Speaker 4: but it's called Hogs and Heifer's. It's where like Coyote

508
00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:34,639
Speaker 4: Hugley is kind of based off of because you go

509
00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,200
Speaker 4: in there, there's like brawls on the ceiling everywhere, but

510
00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,360
Speaker 4: it's all biker bar. And we got drunk as shit,

511
00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,240
Speaker 4: like we lost one of our friends. It was a

512
00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,320
Speaker 4: whole thing. But I remember, I don't remember the night,

513
00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:44,679
Speaker 4: and the only thing I remember the next morning is

514
00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,800
Speaker 4: hearing a walkie talkie and then I got poked with

515
00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,240
Speaker 4: a night stick and my face is like really hurting

516
00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,879
Speaker 4: because it's laying on a doormat. And we tried to

517
00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,359
Speaker 4: go into my friend's place and I was sleeping on

518
00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,360
Speaker 4: his doormat and my friend was sleeping right in front

519
00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,760
Speaker 4: of the elevator, so people had to like step over

520
00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,119
Speaker 4: him him, and so they called the cops on us,

521
00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,359
Speaker 4: and the cops, I think, but my buddy had lost

522
00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:05,760
Speaker 4: his ID, so they're like, how the funk do you

523
00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,080
Speaker 4: get in here? And we're like, oh, well, we live

524
00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,800
Speaker 4: right here, Like we'll open the door, like funny story,

525
00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,560
Speaker 4: we don't have the key. And then we called our

526
00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,320
Speaker 4: other friend who we had lost, and he had fallen

527
00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,720
Speaker 4: asleep on the subway. He woke up in Corona, Queens

528
00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,600
Speaker 4: and uh on the phone, we just had a moment

529
00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:25,040
Speaker 4: Corona and he goes, hey, man, is is this rock bottom?

530
00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,720
Speaker 2: I was like, it's pretty funny. Close. Yeah.

531
00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,600
Speaker 6: I think that our stories are similar because it just

532
00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,199
Speaker 6: involves somebody being somewhere that they were intended to be.

533
00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,600
Speaker 2: You got some crazy ones, I'm sure you got.

534
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know it ends up with me throwing

535
00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:43,520
Speaker 3: up on a nude girl and like we we don't

536
00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,360
Speaker 3: have to do Yeah, that's.

537
00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,040
Speaker 4: So Sam Cecilia is that's an Italian name. Yeah, yes,

538
00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,080
Speaker 4: is an Italian name. There are a bunch of Battalians

539
00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,520
Speaker 4: in Spokane, Washington, Dude.

540
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,520
Speaker 6: What's crazy is down the street from a house, there's

541
00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,240
Speaker 6: a restaurant called Caamelini's and it's famous because Al Capone

542
00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,320
Speaker 6: actually hit out there back in the day. So there's

543
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,879
Speaker 6: a little area called Hilliard in Spokane which actually used

544
00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,480
Speaker 6: to kind of be like the little refugee for Italians

545
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,800
Speaker 6: from that era. And Carmellini's was made as like a

546
00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,000
Speaker 6: hideout because before I kind of lived in the back

547
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,640
Speaker 6: sticks a little bit, like on the edge of town.

548
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,200
Speaker 6: But prior to that it was like totally wooded and

549
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 6: it was just like this cabin. There was just this

550
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,440
Speaker 6: little Italian restaurant for these wise guys, I guess. But yeah, Capone,

551
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 6: it's like if you walk in there, it's part of

552
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 6: their little history of Cammolina.

553
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 2: That's cool.

554
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I lived like a mile down the street.

555
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,440
Speaker 2: How close is your closest neighbor on either side?

556
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,679
Speaker 3: They're fairly close. I'm on like five acres, but I

557
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:30,879
Speaker 3: can see their houses, you know.

558
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,880
Speaker 2: But I couldn't live with anything less you got yard animals.

559
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,639
Speaker 3: No, I just got two dogs and fucking bats. I

560
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 3: got fucking bats.

561
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,919
Speaker 2: Everywhere there's bats. Wait you raise them or there's no, No,

562
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 2: that would be the weirdest.

563
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 6: The only reason I'm saying because it's summertime and I'm

564
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 6: having to deal with them. Like, if you're having this

565
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,840
Speaker 6: talk in the winter, you'd be like to have pets

566
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:50,800
Speaker 6: of not just two dogs.

567
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:51,440
Speaker 3: But since it's.

568
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 6: Summer and I can hear those little fucking things creeping around,

569
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:54,440
Speaker 6: they weird.

570
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 4: I interviewed you years ago. Did you not build a

571
00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:58,120
Speaker 4: log cabin or some shit?

572
00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:58,920
Speaker 3: I bought a log cabin.

573
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 4: You bought a log still live in it? Yeah, what's

574
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 4: it like living in a lot. It's the same, right,

575
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,400
Speaker 4: You got insulationship.

576
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 2: It's you know, it's it's actually naturally insulates itself. It's crazy.

577
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 6: The only spot where you lose a little bit of

578
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 6: the heat or the cooling is just from like the

579
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 6: joint the joyst because.

580
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 2: You got you got a c window units. You got

581
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 2: central Oh yeah, I got a nice central unit. Okay,

582
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,440
Speaker 2: so you dubbed ship all the.

583
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 5: Most of you, Johnny Hendricks and brock Lesnard are the

584
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:23,920
Speaker 5: most American fighters of all time.

585
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 6: I do want animals dude, I want like a donkey,

586
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:27,880
Speaker 6: you know, like a goat. I don't want to raise

587
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 6: a highland cow and like not butcher.

588
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,120
Speaker 2: Just have a pet cow.

589
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 3: Like imagine if you pulled up to someone's house and there,

590
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 3: that's weird. That's pretty weird.

591
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:35,399
Speaker 2: You've seen that.

592
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 4: I mean, my sister tried that bit for a while,

593
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 4: where they people like raise chickens in the yard, like, oh,

594
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 4: we have fresh eggs every day. It's like, yeah, you

595
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 4: got fucking chickens rolling around your joint.

596
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, no, kid, my neighbors have in the city.

597
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,479
Speaker 2: You can't. Oh you got chickens. They're a tough guy.

598
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 2: You could barely mow your yard. You have a riding moll.

599
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,360
Speaker 3: Because I broke because I broke the riding mall. All right, okay,

600
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 3: all right. Have you ever lived next to someone with

601
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 3: the rooster? Have I lived there to someone with a rooster? Probably?

602
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:00,880
Speaker 3: You guys live in the city.

603
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 6: It's you're not supposed to have a rooster in city

604
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 6: ordinance in most cities. Since I'm right on the edge

605
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 6: of town, my neighbor's got like fucking five of them.

606
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:08,959
Speaker 3: There's nothing worse coming home.

607
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 6: There's nothing worse than coming home from a rough night,

608
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 6: you're trying to go to bed, and the roosters everywhere.

609
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's five years old.

610
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 2: That's who he is right here.

611
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, we can talk about him as a fighter as well.

612
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 2: Luke, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I want to get to

613
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 2: know him.

614
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 5: A very very interesting fighter, not only because he arguably

615
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,679
Speaker 5: has the best tattoos in the game, which Luke matters. Thomas,

616
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 5: It's like him and Josh m at the top that mount.

617
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 2: Do you have like one guy you go to or

618
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 2: now I do.

619
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm going to branch out, but yeah I stick

620
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 6: to my one guy like he's he's good for you.

621
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 3: But do you feel like you might have the best

622
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 3: tests in the game? Do you walk around like Trump?

623
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 3: It does and he's I like his commitment to knowing

624
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 3: what all those things are.

625
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 6: Because there's in this day and age, especially in the

626
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 6: fighting world, some dude will have a fucking cooy fish,

627
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:54,719
Speaker 6: Like what's that mean?

628
00:22:54,880 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, strength this coy fish like probably tell a story.

629
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 6: He can tell you why each one's there and why

630
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,199
Speaker 6: a purpose like I bias, I think I have the

631
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 6: best because I'm not I'm not into Japanese stuff like that.

632
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 2: That's cool.

633
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 3: I'm not against it.

634
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 6: But I have a fucking sasquatch on my arm which

635
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 6: is one Pacific north, with a fucking abominable snowman on

636
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 6: my thigh.

637
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 3: Like those are my I guess those are my dragons.

638
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

639
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 3: This is my dragon. This is my samurai.

640
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 2: I don't make you pay for him.

641
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 6: He did this one for free because I put together

642
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 6: a shadow box with some signed gear for his son's

643
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 6: ski team, and then I paid for this one, and

644
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 6: I'm paying for it dearly.

645
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 2: Because have you ever had your ass cheek tattooed? Answers no,

646
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 2: not yet.

647
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 5: He sends me a picture of male ass, so mine's

648
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 5: not full cheek, but like my so my yetti comes up,

649
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 5: like you know, I don't know if I mean you know,

650
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 5: I haven't even had a full beer cheek here, so

651
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 5: I only got like bottom cheek. Dude, I like every

652
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 5: every ten minutes, like you gotta give me a break,

653
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 5: and he's like, no, like.

654
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 2: You didn't use the numbing cream.

655
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 3: It's well, here's the problem with the numbing cream.

656
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 6: It makes your skin firmer, so when you're getting a

657
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 6: lot of color, it won't absorb as well.

658
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 3: So like he'll me asked, I feel like weed makes

659
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 3: it worse. Yeah, I mean you can't drink.

660
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 6: I feel like it tattoos are meant to like you

661
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 6: gotta just hunker down, just deal with it.

662
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 4: Like this is the only one I've ever gotten that

663
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 4: was with the tattoo cream. Other than that I've had see.

664
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 6: Yeah, So like when you when you pack on a

665
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 6: lot of color, like they shade over a lot of

666
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 6: raw skin. So once he kind of pounds in the ink,

667
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 6: that's like the I don't know, the darker stuff. He'll

668
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 6: put some cream on and get me through, because it's like,

669
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 6: imagine getting to explain for people with tattoos. Imagine getting

670
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 6: road rash, okay.

671
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 3: And then you go home. Instead of putting a banding

672
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 3: on it, you start scratching it.

673
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit.

674
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 3: You scratches some more. It's like it's not.

675
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 4: It's liquid fires. I tell you it's liquid fire. Did

676
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 4: you see Andy Ruiz the boxer? Yeah, so he got

677
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 4: all black and gray work, and then he was complaining

678
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 4: to Canelo in Spanish that because he got his whole

679
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 4: ass done, the.

680
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 5: Whole joints basically, not the aus like he was his

681
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 5: literal complaint was that it was hard to wipe his

682
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 5: ass because it hurt all the tattooing.

683
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 3: That's not good.

684
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 2: That's not good.

685
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not here for ashtats on anyone, Thank you

686
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 5: very much. What is your take on the most controversial

687
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 5: tattoo debate that we've ever had on Morning Combat here

688
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 5: that you know, good old father of the Year candidate,

689
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 5: mister hebos when Amanda got her UFC debut and she

690
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 5: got a win by choking out spitfire whitmyer dad got

691
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 5: the tattoo of that moment on his fore armed dad

692
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 5: and coach for the rest of his life. And I

693
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 5: showed it to Luke and have you seen this ship

694
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 5: just trying to celebrate, you know, like like the late

695
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 5: Kobe Bryant.

696
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 3: He's a girl hashtag girl dad, Right, Hey, what.

697
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 2: Are you doing? You're so awful? I got a good Yeah,

698
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 2: he's like this dead person that was once.

699
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,239
Speaker 5: What I'm saying is, could you overlook the fact that

700
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 5: maybe it's not the highest quality technical work just because

701
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 5: he loves his daughter.

702
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 4: I admire this v is for my daughter, so I

703
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 4: understand that it's a little bang up, a little bangedo.

704
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 3: That's like if you're gonna get that tattoo.

705
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 6: Like it's the gesture counts, but like you gotta go

706
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 6: see someone good. To get a portrait of one face alone,

707
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 6: it's tough, but to get three of them in it, Yeah,

708
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 6: that's it. That's gonna cut. I admire the gesture, but

709
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 6: I think that that's gonna turn into are you gonna

710
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 6: have kids?

711
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 3: Oh?

712
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 6: Man, I get that question a lot these days.

713
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 3: Your elderly female relatives. Not from a man. Everybody thinks,

714
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 3: for nuts, we don't want kids.

715
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 2: That's a fair point.

716
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 3: We don't want we don't want kids.

717
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 6: It's just not in the I just dude, I'm like,

718
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 6: I'm so involved with this, like I've gone this long.

719
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 2: Even even the wife one. No, she We're very career focused.

720
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 2: We're very career driven.

721
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 3: And as wild as I am. That means you must

722
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 3: have awesome dogs my fucking oh fuck yeah, dude, Stone

723
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 3: my dog. I have a dog and Stone cold after

724
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:46,719
Speaker 3: Oh that's pretty bad.

725
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 2: Do you stunner him all the time?

726
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 3: No, but he stuns me with his fucking fat out.

727
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 3: He's forty pounds.

728
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 6: He stuns me with his little obese round body that

729
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 6: I got a big king.

730
00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 2: Corso blue oh, did you buy from like a breeder? Judge?

731
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 5: My wife did before he's going to judge your ass now, yeah,

732
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 5: I knows.

733
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 3: Are cool. I grew up with months.

734
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 2: I got a couple from the pound Bran Streets.

735
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, because that's where we came from in life.

736
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: From the dogs shelter. If we came from the dogs.

737
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 3: Jacob the camera guy's been to my hometown.

738
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 2: I got picked up by the Humane Society. Yeah, right,

739
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 2: that's the dog. Look at him. Someone.

740
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 4: Let's talk about your career a little bit. Where are

741
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 4: you in terms of your existing fight contract? How many

742
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 4: fights you got left on it?

743
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 2: I just recently asked Holly about brain damage yesterday?

744
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 3: Yeah that's fair.

745
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, we resigned a new deal, yes recently, Yeah, recently.

746
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, after the last fight too. I'm happy with it,

747
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 3: very happy. Yeah, I can't complain.

748
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 4: So how many Okay, that's this way? How many years

749
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 4: do you think that would take to complete?

750
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 3: It depends on my body.

751
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 6: That that's the tricky thing for member.

752
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: If are you super banged up?

753
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 6: I'm not super banked up. I just have you know,

754
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 6: back in twenty sixteen, I dealt with that. I had

755
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 6: a little back injury, and we're actually big back injury

756
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 6: that pulled me out of the Ferguson fight, So that

757
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 6: kind of is come back.

758
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: Kind of barreing its teeth a little bit.

759
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 6: So the biggest thing for me is, you know, I

760
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 6: have to learn to When you're young, you take more chances,

761
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 6: you fight when you're injured.

762
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 3: You kind of roll the dice a little more. When

763
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 3: you get older, it's like, is this really I.

764
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 6: Got to make sure that I get this thing taken

765
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 6: care of before I acquire another injury.

766
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 2: Through a training camp, you're always going to go in there.

767
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 3: Bang dev so, but you also don't want to get

768
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 3: to your moment and be hurt for it, right, Yeah,

769
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 3: well you're always going to be.

770
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 6: I can't tell you a single fight that I have

771
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 6: not gone into with some type of injury. Like it's

772
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 6: to the point where like, if I haven't gotten hurt

773
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 6: in some way that's significant in a fight camp, I'll

774
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 6: get the fight week and I swear to God, I'll

775
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 6: be panicking. I'll be like something bad is going to

776
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 6: happen when we're cutting weight or doing something stupid. I'm

777
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 6: a twisted finger, like I haven't gotten injured yet. Fuck

778
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 6: you just always kind of expect it. Maybe that's bad,

779
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 6: maybe it's manifesting it. I don't know, but at this point,

780
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 6: it's like, make sure your back is healthy.

781
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 2: This is important.

782
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 6: Like I love as much as I love it and

783
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 6: my I want the career. This is a perfect example.

784
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 6: I want to have the career that Forest Griffin had

785
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 6: one the Ultimate Fighter one a UFC belt has moved

786
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 6: on and he continues to work with the company.

787
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 3: He's basically a part of it. Yeah, he's kind of

788
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 3: an investment.

789
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 6: I want that career, But I see the side effects

790
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 6: of like just maintenance, going into fights injured, Like he's

791
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 6: you know, he left banged up, you know, and he'll

792
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 6: talk about it openly all the time.

793
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 3: So it's like he'll even harp on me stretch more.

794
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 6: Dude, take care of your body if you're injured, if

795
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 6: your shoulders fucked to take care of it. Don't don't

796
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 6: you know, Yeah, you don't put don't put band aids

797
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 6: on things that need stitches. Basically just kind of really,

798
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 6: if something is bad, you get it fixed. So that's

799
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 6: the biggest thing for me is making sure I'm healthy

800
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:28,719
Speaker 6: when I get back.

801
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 4: How fucked up were you all those years trying to

802
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 4: make light weight, Like, what was the I mean, I

803
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 4: know there was losses attached to it, with the very

804
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 4: in there, but like from a physical standpoint, can you

805
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 4: describe at what point you were like, man, fuck this,

806
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 4: this is not fucking worth it.

807
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 6: It was it was that last cut because for me,

808
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 6: it's like he just I kind of when I started MMA,

809
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,959
Speaker 6: it was like still the kind of I was called

810
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,959
Speaker 6: the militant ere. When I started training, it was like

811
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 6: hard sparring. Every day, had hard way. Everything was very extreme.

812
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 6: It's a very extreme sport. So I was still kind

813
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 6: of riding that up until I started to kind of

814
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 6: get a taste of getting older, having your bones get

815
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 6: a little denser, having not being able to lose weight

816
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 6: as easy as you as before. Like I used to

817
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 6: leave for fight week and have cheesecake with my family

818
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 6: before I go to fight.

819
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 3: We can still make weight? Is that smart? No? But

820
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 3: that last cup for pettis man, I just I came

821
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 3: in too big.

822
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 6: I was dealing with an injury and just like you

823
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 6: always kind of feel like you're walking to a very

824
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 6: extreme situation like weight cut days, always like you really

825
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 6: dreaded more than more than.

826
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 2: What was the most you ever cut in a day.

827
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 6: I always did good like day over whatever day of

828
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 6: day of waynes I never really had big cuts. But

829
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 6: I remember before I fought Joe Lowe's on a Mitch Clark,

830
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 6: I had some real and Jim Miller, I mean, and

831
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 6: everybody and every fight, every fight's attached to some fucking

832
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 6: bad weight cut story and ship. Even in one seventy

833
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 6: Now it's like I only had one cut that didn't

834
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 6: feel like a cut.

835
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: It was the first one.

836
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 6: Now it's like it's not as it's not as bad,

837
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 6: but I'm just saying, it's.

838
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 2: What's your weight right like right at the moment.

839
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 6: Oh, I'm proudly like two oh three, Like wow, Like

840
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 6: I can't grapple and spar but I'm going through a

841
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 6: lot of like you know, strength conditioning.

842
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: I'm still lifting weights.

843
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna fucking I don't get these biceps.

844
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: On the counter.

845
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, as I'm solid as I'm pushing them up.

846
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 6: But yeah, so I'm doing what I can, you know,

847
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 6: And I like maintaining size.

848
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 3: I think that that.

849
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 6: I think that That's another thing too, is when you're

850
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 6: when you're cutting weight all the time and putting yourself

851
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 6: through it, you acquire more. I think my back problems

852
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 6: I had came from. There's no there's like training.

853
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 3: There's nothing good small.

854
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 6: Like I'm trying to do power cleans and stuff while

855
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 6: I'm trying to cut to one hundred and fifty five pounds.

856
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 3: I feel like that that's how my injury happened.

857
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 4: Did you ever talk to Chris Leaving about his weightcuts? No, dude,

858
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 4: I had him on my show. This is long after

859
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 4: he'd retired and he or maybe he'd come back for

860
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 4: like the I think the BC or something. And I

861
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 4: had talked to him and he told me he's on

862
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 4: pills the rest of his life to regulate his integrine

863
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 4: system because he fucked up everything so bad from weightcuts,

864
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 4: his body can't regulate it anymore.

865
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 2: See.

866
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 6: And I'm glad I got that when I did, because

867
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 6: I feel like I was getting to that point, like

868
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 6: the Petus fight was, like I had at that point,

869
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 6: I had to be everything had to be perfect to

870
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 6: make weight, like you have to be at this point

871
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 6: during fight week.

872
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: You have to be injury free. It's like everything happening

873
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 3: literally no cheat day. Well before there was a lot

874
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 3: of cheat days. I was just young and stupid.

875
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 6: But like as I started to get older and more

876
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 6: like most of all, I started fall in love with

877
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 6: lifting weights I never did before, you know. So I'm

878
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 6: trying to get stronger and trying to get stronger become

879
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 6: a better athlete. But while I'm depleting myself, those two

880
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 6: things passing by each other fucked me up.

881
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: So I had the back injury, tried to come back, and.

882
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 6: I did against Kevin Lee, but I was like, I'll

883
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 6: do no strength conditioning, I'll focus just on martial arts skills,

884
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 6: and look what happened. It's like, no, if you're a grappler,

885
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 6: if you want to be a power grappler, if you

886
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 6: want to take guys down, if you want to dominate positions,

887
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 6: get submissions, you can't be a skinny little bitch.

888
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: So in order to feel like also like to lift weights,

889
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: you do have to eat.

890
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 3: Like yeah, and I didn't understand that, you know.

891
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 6: So he's like even a guy like Charles Oliver, the

892
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 6: greatest submission artist we've ever seen. His skills are really

893
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 6: shining as he's like gone up in size, like it

894
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 6: kind of is. I feel like as a grappler, you're

895
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 6: always like I need to be as big as I

896
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 6: can in the lowest weight class because that's what's best

897
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 6: for me, because I want to take guys down and

898
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 6: blanking them, you know what I mean.

899
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 3: Like, but here's one of legend now and it's not true.

900
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 3: It's better to be bigger.

901
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 5: You went from being a big lightweight to being like

902
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 5: the biggest welterweight.

903
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, overnight.

904
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: It wasn't.

905
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 4: It wasn't like there was like, well he's oh, he's

906
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 4: okay for this weight class. I remember that Kmora you

907
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 4: had on content. Yeah, your fucking back looked like a

908
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 4: turtle shell. I was like, whoa where did this come from?

909
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: It's crazy?

910
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: Why is dude from that?

911
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 6: That was getting with a regiment like I was kind

912
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 6: of going renegade style looking up YouTube workouts to do

913
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 6: to lift waste. And I had a good guy kind

914
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 6: of taking me through it, but I kind of went

915
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 6: off on my own and coming to the P I

916
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 6: like getting in a regiment, like my body was like

917
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 6: if I'm going to do this with these guys, like

918
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 6: you got to make a choice, and yeah, the condit fight.

919
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 6: I finally blewed up, like gotta take creatine. Creatines, Like

920
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 6: I can't believe I've gone this long wire.

921
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: Bro.

922
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 6: I never got to hit the creatine until I was

923
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 6: like thirty. I didn't even know really well, I just

924
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 6: was never like twenty years I can't take it.

925
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 4: You're gonna get too big. So it's like twenty years old.

926
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 4: I was swallowing every pillar GENC possible.

927
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, how bad is that for your kidneys? Did you

928
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 6: ever have any moments or your kidneys just felt like

929
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 6: they were just No?

930
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 2: I never had. I mean I'm not.

931
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 4: You probably trained way harder than I ever did, so

932
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 4: I never got to any points of extremity like that,

933
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 4: but I do. I was at GENC when they were

934
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 4: like still selling a Vedron. Remember a frin was killing

935
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 4: baseball players. I was like, that's the one I want.

936
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 3: It was killing records, old records.

937
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,959
Speaker 2: Hold on there. They want to offer you more beer.

938
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 3: I'll do another beer.

939
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: Beer, Yeah, you beer.

940
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

941
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 5: I think I threw my cup somewhere over here, though,

942
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 5: if we can get one of the one of the gays.

943
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 2: I wanted to keep nursing that stupid red drain.

944
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 5: What is this like some mischies the label it's this

945
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 5: Paula Costa's juice.

946
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, well this is okay.

947
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 5: I'm such an old piece of ship that this has

948
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 5: green tea and it to keep me going during the

949
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 5: show because we're all.

950
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 2: We get none of the office of pro athletes.

951
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 4: But the where you're at now thirty five feel about

952
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 4: the same three section were you age and the way

953
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 4: you're at right now in your thirties. Yeah, it's arithmetic

954
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 4: at forty, it's expoents you just hits. I can't tell

955
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 4: you how different it is.

956
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 5: Like I may dressed like I have high tea, but

957
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 5: I don't think I do at all.

958
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 3: To be fair with you, no one.

959
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 6: Thinks you have my t Just to be very clear

960
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 6: about that, dude, do you guys take it? I don't

961
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 6: mean to ask prayer. I mean, if luskin ask me

962
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 6: how much fucking money I make, I'm gonna ask. You know,

963
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 6: do you guys take tests at all?

964
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: Like, let's gip thinking about it.

965
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 5: I dude, Yo, you're talking about him cycling on a

966
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 5: twenty thirteen Molehawk V tour style thing of life.

967
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 3: Bro, you know what I mean, He's gonna make a

968
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 3: run at powerlifting here.

969
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 2: No, no, not. I don't want that.

970
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 4: I just I just don't want my back to hurt

971
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 4: when I brush my teeth anymore.

972
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 2: That's really weird. That's my that's my fitness goal. That'd

973
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 2: be nice, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, that's have

974
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 2: you thought about it? I mean, obviously you're fighting, so it's.

975
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 3: Obviously you're a pro athlete, so this is something you

976
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 3: think about, you know. Yeah, you know, I've been thinking

977
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 3: about seeing a doctor.

978
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, in the next chapter of your life.

979
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: Oh dude, Absolutely, my body's gonna be so fucked. I

980
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: mean that's just the reality.

981
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 6: Like, even if I stretch and do everything right, at

982
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 6: some point, I'm gonna and it's not like I'm gonna

983
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 6: wait till like this damn out of the y Sawa pool.

984
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 6: It's like it'll be like once I start to fall

985
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 6: apart and like I can't train and I can't do

986
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 6: I'm like, if I have a very physical lifestyle, you know,

987
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 6: I like to grapple, I like the jiu jitsu is

988
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 6: a big passion of mine. I'll always do that. I

989
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 6: like to snowboard. I like to do things like that.

990
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 3: Once my body starts giving out on me and I'm like,

991
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 3: all right, well, are you.

992
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 4: A less dangerous in terms of your own personal safety?

993
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 4: Donald SERRONI, yeah, a little bit.

994
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 3: Look, man, maybe were slightly cover from the same cloth.

995
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 2: I couldn't snip that guy's jockstrap. He's a fucking lunatic.

996
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 3: That guy's fucking his stories are insane.

997
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 6: He did the he did a uf UFC Countdown show,

998
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 6: and like the first five minutes they're filming, they had

999
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 6: a camera guy in his brand new rapper. He fucking

1000
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 6: flipped it. Like the first five minutes. I'm not even

1001
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 6: in that guy's ballpark.

1002
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 4: Like, but you ever seen that, you know, the Meal

1003
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 4: Brothers and jiu Jitsu. Yeah, you ever seen that famous picture.

1004
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was Joan or Paulo, but

1005
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 4: you ever seen the picture of his hands? Yeah, they're

1006
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 4: and the arthritis in the knuckles, because those guys were

1007
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 4: big on gee it did no G two, but they

1008
00:36:59,320 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 4: were really big gig.

1009
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1010
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 4: If you guys have never seen it, the Google meo

1011
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 4: it's spelled m I y ao. And you see his

1012
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 4: hands and this is a picture they took in his

1013
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 4: mid to late twenties now, and the arthritis is you

1014
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 4: cannot believe it.

1015
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 2: If you've never like having.

1016
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 6: Big pickles for fingers, they just look all big and bumpy.

1017
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 6: They can't even It's like, how do you still grip?

1018
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 6: It's like when you see an old jiu jitsu guy

1019
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 6: like a Carlson Gracie, he moves kind of slow.

1020
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 5: They limp, but when they get on the fucking masks,

1021
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 5: his hands look bad, dude, But I bet when he

1022
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 5: gets to grabbing.

1023
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I went to a seminar and I saw his hands.

1024
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 4: I was like, what the fuck? But dude, then he

1025
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 4: would he would just like get on the mats and enroll.

1026
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:34,959
Speaker 4: And it was like nothing ever has those.

1027
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 3: Ojure old school cowboys?

1028
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 2: Man, dude, they really are fucking.

1029
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 3: Real men, like like Marco howis real men?

1030
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 2: Right? King of the streets talking about you're you're entertaining this.

1031
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 5: Stop just just stop, okay, don't just just don't be

1032
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 5: a bitch, all right, Mike. When I you've you've you've

1033
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 5: got actually a sneaky good resume. And I don't think

1034
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 5: people always realize when they put the class like, I mean,

1035
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 5: you'd be fucking RDA like like and you still got it. Yeah,

1036
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 5: you've done You've done some really good things. But you

1037
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 5: also had that vibral a moment with Kevin Lean.

1038
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 6: Let's talk about my mom yeah, we're not gonna talk

1039
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 6: about your mom today, So I was gonna say, you're

1040
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 6: lucky at a beer right out here.

1041
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,919
Speaker 3: We don't care about that. It was a moment. Did

1042
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 3: you ever have any doubt that you were gonna just

1043
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 3: fucking go make that moment happen? I know that was

1044
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 3: just you know what, In hindsight, good old keV.

1045
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 6: Good on him for knowing how to get under my skin,

1046
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 6: Like that's the one nerd you could strike. I'm a

1047
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 6: pretty cool headed guy, and granted lightning would not strike twice.

1048
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 6: It wouldn't matter if somebody could go full Chaos Covington

1049
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 6: mode and start saying some Baltale shit and I'd keep

1050
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 6: my composure. But that was the first time I'd ever

1051
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 6: dealt with that. We're like, Wow, someone said something that

1052
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 6: actually got under my skin. So I gotta give keV.

1053
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 6: He might say some stupid ass shit and I still

1054
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 6: think he's an idiot, but I got to give.

1055
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 2: Him his kudos. He got me good with that one.

1056
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 4: Is that the only time you ever had an opponent

1057
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 4: who you were just like, man, fuck that guy.

1058
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 3: Know the crazy thing about Kevin is we actually trained

1059
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 3: a little.

1060
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 6: We were not like we worked together, but we were

1061
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 6: in the same room at syndicate a few times, so

1062
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 6: everything was like pretty cordial and passing, and literally up

1063
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 6: until the press call, It's like I saw him beforehand,

1064
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 6: like hey, you know, handshake, walk away.

1065
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 3: Everything seemed fine.

1066
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 6: But the second the press conference start, I think we

1067
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 6: were both kind of rare and to go.

1068
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 3: Like, like I said earlier, I was.

1069
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 6: Wanting to be a doucheback, Like I was like, I'm

1070
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 6: ready to get on the mic and start talking shit

1071
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 6: to guys.

1072
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: That's how I'm going to get to big fights.

1073
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 6: And that was like my first time trying to do it,

1074
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 6: and I attempted and I got like I got ten eated.

1075
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 6: He talked about my mom and I literally ran at

1076
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 6: him and got punched. That's that's the worst part, dude,

1077
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 6: is I literally ran at the guy, was like, don't

1078
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 6: you talk about my mom? And I'm the I'm the

1079
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 6: guy that got punched. I'm like, you fucking dumb as.

1080
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 5: Did you get love though in certain circles for that

1081
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 5: other moms that stop you on the street and like

1082
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 5: thank you.

1083
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 6: Oh dude, I'm a high school wrestling coach, so I'm

1084
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 6: around fucking cool ass wrestling moms all the time, and

1085
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 6: they were like.

1086
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 2: You wait to stand up for us moms.

1087
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 3: I'm like, fuck yeah, I do it again.

1088
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 2: I don't give a shit.

1089
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: And it's something like when it happened, it.

1090
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 6: Like I was like, oh, you know, it's not like

1091
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 6: my one of my prouder moments. But like as you

1092
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 6: get older, like you kind of you kind of play

1093
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 6: into that role of those like comments like look at

1094
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 6: poor you. He's like the king of him. When people

1095
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 6: throw shade at him, he's always like he'll go with

1096
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 6: it him. So now it's like it's funny to me,

1097
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 6: and I'm glad it happened. It's always funny. My mom

1098
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 6: on my thirtieth birthday got me a shirt maids like,

1099
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 6: don't you ever talk about my mom? We took a

1100
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 6: picture and then I sent it to Kevin tagged him.

1101
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 6: I was like, hey, happy thirtieth birthday to me. You know,

1102
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 6: so I kind of play into it now, but he

1103
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 6: ten aded me, fucking beat me two to zero.

1104
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 3: The fight and the press conference.

1105
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 2: It happens. Yeah, I know, career all right, So let's

1106
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 2: speak of a wich.

1107
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 4: So you want to and then the last two you've

1108
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 4: lost to Yeah, where where do you think you are.

1109
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 2: You're still ranked. Yeah, where do you think you are

1110
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 2: in your career right now? Dude? I'm one.

1111
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 3: I go out there.

1112
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 6: It doesn't matter who I fight. I go out there

1113
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 6: and beat anybody and show who who I who.

1114
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 2: I really am.

1115
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 5: I mean, you were like a dark horse title cannon

1116
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 5: at thes you switch to.

1117
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 3: Four straight wins, you know, and.

1118
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 6: The shar Brady fights one I can hold my head

1119
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 6: high on you know, like nobody wanted to fight that guy,

1120
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 6: and you know I took on that.

1121
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 3: Challenge and I don't did I feel like he legit

1122
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:53,479
Speaker 3: beat me? But I wasn't.

1123
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 6: It's like going through the fight still staying in and

1124
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 6: having my moment at the end the at the end

1125
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 6: of the third round, like you.

1126
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 3: Were like valin Tina against Amanda in the first fight.

1127
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 3: That's what you He legit beat me.

1128
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 6: That's the first time in my career I just feel

1129
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 6: like I like he got me. You know I didn't

1130
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 6: every other fight. I always feel like I beat myself.

1131
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 6: Like I went into that fight very active. You know,

1132
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 6: this is coming off, you know, the Magni fight, Luka fight,

1133
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 6: Brady fight. Three camps in a row, three camps f

1134
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 6: I'm healthy, feeling strong. He just he got the best

1135
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 6: of me. But every other fight, it's always like I

1136
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 6: beat myself. There's something I did to myself, and it's

1137
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 6: always something mental. It's always something happened with it, whether

1138
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 6: it's within the fight or just something that's where it's

1139
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 6: always been.

1140
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 5: Because you were honest about that after the Luk lost people.

1141
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 5: That Luk fight was the moment I thought you were

1142
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 5: coming on and there's still time and.

1143
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 3: You're I'm not sweating.

1144
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 6: But my point away from all this stuff, all the

1145
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 6: it it looked like you were ready to seal it.

1146
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 3: I liked your honesty afterwards. What sort of happened in

1147
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 3: that moment. I think for me, this is the instance

1148
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 3: of beating myself.

1149
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 6: Is It's not it's not like I'm a mental midget

1150
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 6: like I've shown in my career, I'm one of the mentally.

1151
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 2: Toughest motherfuckers you'll ever see.

1152
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 3: Like it's it's the times when i've it's mental choice

1153
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 3: I made.

1154
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: Within the fight that they've cost me, like go for

1155
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: the finish.

1156
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 6: Like really trying to push that push on the gas,

1157
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 6: kind of dealing with the stress of wanting to like

1158
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,439
Speaker 6: put an emphatic finish on this win instead of like, hey,

1159
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 6: why don't you just go out there and beat the

1160
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 6: guy like you beat the last four, you know, do

1161
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 6: what you did before. And I just kind of got

1162
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 6: away from myself wanted to like trying to capitalize on.

1163
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 3: A big moment. You know, if I if I went

1164
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 3: five and oh that night, this.

1165
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 6: Would be a really interesting conversation because at the time

1166
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 6: I was kind of in the mix to fight Kamorrow

1167
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 6: just from word of mouth between him and Ali.

1168
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 3: So it's like that could have got me into the

1169
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 3: dream spot.

1170
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 5: And you were the only one that hadn't fought him

1171
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 5: at that point, so I thought you could have potentially

1172
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 5: made a real yeah, you know.

1173
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 3: And just I made it was it was a bad

1174
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 3: mental decision on my part.

1175
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 4: You know, you're an interesting interesting spot of wlthweight right

1176
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 4: now because you got a lot of guys that are

1177
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 4: kind of hung around for a little while. Your KOLBY'SR

1178
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 4: Jorges Tomorrow is obviously still the top, but that that

1179
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 4: cannot for anybody, cannot last forever. No, and then you

1180
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 4: got a bunch of young guys Tamayah, Rochmanov, Brady.

1181
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting time in this division.

1182
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 4: It seems like there's a new class starting to slowly

1183
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 4: push the other.

1184
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 5: People want to know which class are you and the

1185
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 5: falling out of the one that's coming in.

1186
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 6: I'm right in the middle. I'm kind of it is

1187
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 6: kind of a weird thing. I don't I don't feel

1188
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 6: like the veteran. But it's like, fuck, I have been

1189
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 6: here for ten years, and maybe it's good that I

1190
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 6: don't feel like the veterans. I still very much feel

1191
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,959
Speaker 6: like a hungry up and comer like that that I don't.

1192
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: I feel like it's like probably how Clay Guida feels

1193
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: like Clay Greeda's.

1194
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 6: I've never heard him say at any point like he's

1195
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 6: laying off the gas from not wanting to fight and

1196
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 6: get to a title, and he's still ship.

1197
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 2: He was on a good little streak himself recently.

1198
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 6: So yeah, dude, it's it's I've already hung in there

1199
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 6: with one of the best up and coming guys, if

1200
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 6: not the best.

1201
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: Shawn's as good as it. Guess what was it was?

1202
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 6: It?

1203
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 4: Tell me what it was like fighting him, because I

1204
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 4: I was funny the way fight played out. You actually

1205
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 4: had some success on the feet. Yeah, I thought that

1206
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 4: it was going to be. I didn't know how the

1207
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 4: ground was going to play out, but I thought I

1208
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 4: was surprised at how much success he had, and not

1209
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 4: anymore now that I realized that, whoa, he's really really good.

1210
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 6: Fucking he's gorilla strong like that was one of those

1211
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 6: That was one of those instances where, like I said,

1212
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 6: I I'll be as open about any of my it's.

1213
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 2: Wins or losses, more importantly the losses.

1214
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just I did not think that there would

1215
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 6: be a guy that would feel like that, Like, that

1216
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 6: guy has to be he has to be the strongest

1217
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 6: guy at one hundred and seventy pounds. That doesn't mean

1218
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 6: he's gonna go out there and do the same thing.

1219
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 2: To guys like Chamaia or Tomorrow.

1220
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 6: I'm just saying, for that aspect of mixed martial arts

1221
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 6: skills or the skills in general, that guy is so

1222
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 6: fucking strong.

1223
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 4: We had him in the studio and he it was.

1224
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 4: I was It's the only other guy I've ever seen

1225
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 4: like this. You ever see a vander Holyfield in his prime? Yeah,

1226
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 4: he traps up there where they almost rotate forward virtue

1227
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 4: of how muscular.

1228
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 2: That's what he looked like in person.

1229
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 3: Dude, and you can.

1230
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 6: I mean when you you know, when someone's really strong,

1231
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 6: when you look at their back, You'll never see somebody

1232
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 6: that's this fucking fiously strong that does not have big

1233
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 6: back muscles.

1234
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 3: You ever heard that they can have fucking skinny arms

1235
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 3: and legs.

1236
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 6: But if you look and someone's got a big backs

1237
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 6: Jurassic back, Yeah.

1238
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 4: Dude, it's the what did Matt Brown say? The front

1239
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 4: is for show, the back is for go.

1240
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like more cushion for the sounds like it's

1241
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 3: like an LBB thing. Look, you know, you know.

1242
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1243
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 6: But the Sam Brady fight felt good to have successful defeat,

1244
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 6: though I will say this, that was one of those

1245
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 6: fights where I kind of knew going into it this

1246
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 6: is the one. Let's pick at him on the feet

1247
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 6: and then kind of kind of force him into trying

1248
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 6: to make those engagements, but not in an offensive way,

1249
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 6: like a defensive way. Let's pick out him until he's like, fuck,

1250
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 6: I'm done with this, I want to grapple now.

1251
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 5: Like I give him praise for the win, of course, yeah,

1252
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 5: but there are critical fans who feel like maybe you

1253
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 5: exposed him to to a certain degree.

1254
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 3: Do you buy into that.

1255
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 4: That's tough to say. Like he broke his nose first

1256
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 4: right away. Yeah, he told me you had to swallow

1257
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 4: blood and it was likely distracted.

1258
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 3: I mean, he fought through some shit, but.

1259
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 2: I believe that I did.

1260
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 3: But I still I believe him in that sense.

1261
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 6: I broke my nose in an amateur fight before, and

1262
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 6: I know what it's like to have to fight when

1263
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 6: literally your blood is pooling up in your mouth and

1264
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 6: you're spitting it out like it's Yeah, I feel for

1265
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 6: that for that because I've been there, But I still

1266
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 6: don't think it would have changed anything.

1267
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 3: I still think I would have came on.

1268
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 6: It's fucking hard in a fight to rise to ride

1269
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 6: someone's back like that is not your body gets gassed,

1270
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 6: maybe not your lungs, it's.

1271
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 2: Your body just starts to kind of give out.

1272
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 6: Like I've had fights where I've body triangles somewhere for

1273
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 6: ten minutes and third round, I'm like, it's like I'm

1274
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 6: almost on chicken legs and i haven't even gotten punched,

1275
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 6: you know. So I still think the nose didn't make

1276
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 6: that big particilent.

1277
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 4: Where do you think Kolby deserves to be ranked? I

1278
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 4: realize where he has been ranked. Yeah, but the big

1279
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 4: argument against him is the last relevant win was actually Jorge,

1280
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 4: who is certainly much much much older, And so I

1281
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 4: don'tsoly who the hell knows what's gonna happen with that

1282
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 4: whole shit between them in the court case. But I'm

1283
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 4: not saying we don't take him seriously, but I do

1284
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 4: wonder to what extent do you think that there might

1285
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 4: be a bit of an inflated sense of where he

1286
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 4: actually is.

1287
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 6: That's a that's a harsh reality he's gonna have to

1288
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 6: face because the stick doesn't really sell, you know. It's

1289
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 6: like for me, it's like, you're not gonna be able

1290
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 6: to use that and get yourself in any more bigger fights.

1291
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 6: You're gonna have to now fight somebody that isn't has

1292
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 6: been in a pay per view main event, that hasn't

1293
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 6: fought for a title. You're gonna have to fight a

1294
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 6: guy like or maybe I mean the only other one

1295
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 6: I can say would be like a Gilbert Burns. Why

1296
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 6: don't you fight Gilbert Burns? He's he's been in a

1297
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 6: high profile fight.

1298
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 3: That's not.

1299
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 4: Yah.

1300
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 3: Fuck yeah that him and Brady be a fun fight.

1301
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 6: But it's like at some point you have to realize,

1302
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 6: like you're gonna if you want to keep competing, you're

1303
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 6: gonna have to fight someone like me. You're gonna have

1304
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 6: to fight someone like Blaw. You're gonna have to fight

1305
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,240
Speaker 6: somebody like Tamayev. You're gonna have to fight somebody that's

1306
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 6: not as marquis as these other guys.

1307
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 3: And I'm not that's not saying, it's just a it's

1308
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 3: just a harsh reality. I think Kobe should call out Jamaiev.

1309
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 5: And while while we can say what we want about

1310
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 5: his chances in that fight, dude, that's that's a that's

1311
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 5: a potential, big, high profile.

1312
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 3: That's that's not we're here to do though, Like we're

1313
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 3: not here to like that.

1314
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 6: If he's the only guy that that's actually a real

1315
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 6: scenario where you look at him and say, wow, that's

1316
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 6: you want to shy away from that fight because he's

1317
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 6: so tough like a guy like me or Blaw, We're

1318
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 6: like or Brady's like, we don't care.

1319
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 3: That's the big that's the hottest guy on the.

1320
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 6: Market right now. I want to fight that motherfucker. I mean,

1321
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 6: how is he not jumping to that? Like, you gotta

1322
00:47:59,080 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 6: face the challenge.

1323
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 5: If you remember he do you want to maintain your

1324
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 5: spot in this sport, If you want to maintain being

1325
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 5: Colby Comington.

1326
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 3: The guy at the top of the division, you gotta funck.

1327
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 3: And he was right in front of his face. He

1328
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 3: could have win and fought Shamaiah.

1329
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 6: And even if you go out as much as I

1330
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 6: think he's a fucking dork and he's got me sitting

1331
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 6: about of my fucking chair, uh, it's like the way

1332
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 6: he fights, he's a tough son of a bitch like you.

1333
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 5: He would go out there and give Chamayahu if not

1334
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 5: beat him. So that's just a reality. And Tremiah could

1335
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 5: very well beat him.

1336
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 6: But I'm just saying Kobe should have taken that chance

1337
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 6: because if he's the first guy to hand him his loss,

1338
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 6: he's sitting on top three.

1339
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 3: He puts him down.

1340
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 6: Guess what you you you jump lee on, you jump

1341
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 6: everybody else, and you can sit a top where you

1342
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 6: think you are for the next two or three years.

1343
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 5: There's a win and a loss in that fight. If

1344
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 5: it goes that way for Colby, there's a win for

1345
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 5: taking that fight. And we know from Mill interviewing Gilbert

1346
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 5: Burns it became like the highest traffic thing we ever

1347
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 5: did because people were.

1348
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 3: So in on on Timaiah because he's right now.

1349
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's our biggest one is actually Floyd saying beating

1350
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 4: Connor is easy.

1351
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 3: Because Floyd sent me to hell over that remark I

1352
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 3: had about it.

1353
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 4: Floyd did this guy in Floyd's face challenged him about

1354
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 4: the weakness of his resume.

1355
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 3: You know what, I what I thought. I had.

1356
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 5: An opportunity to make magic on the mic, and I

1357
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 5: knew it, so I went after it, and.

1358
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 3: You fucking went for That's what.

1359
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 2: Is your Seriously, what is your proudest victory?

1360
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 3: Man?

1361
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 5: I would say, uh, you know, you can't be the

1362
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 5: r DA that win was.

1363
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 6: It's a it's a no. It will always be the

1364
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 6: Ultimate Fighter Finals. I mean, dude, that's my mom's birthday

1365
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 6: on the end of it. Really, that was my mom's birthday.

1366
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 6: On the end of that run I had dealing with.

1367
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 3: The passing away of my dad and stuff like that.

1368
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 6: Was like, I don't even think I still the ultimate

1369
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 6: goals always win a world championship. But I really think

1370
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 6: that when it's all said and done, after I do it,

1371
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 6: and I compare the two moments the Ultimate Fighter one

1372
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 6: will always.

1373
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 2: Be the best one that was like, you can't beat that.

1374
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 6: It's like it's like a book was written, like, oh,

1375
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 6: your dad died and now you're gonna fight on your

1376
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 6: mom's birthday, Like it's like a Disney movie.

1377
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 3: Well I fucking lived through it, and it was that'll

1378
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 3: for me and my family.

1379
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 4: That will always be like I don't like, I don't

1380
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 4: want to pry, but I don't mind. When my mother passed,

1381
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 4: it was sudden and tragic. I expected, Yeah, did you

1382
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 4: have a similar circumstance.

1383
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 3: No, my dad had cancer. So before I actually didn't go.

1384
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 6: I almost pulled back on The Ultimate Fighter because I

1385
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 6: knew my time was limited. So I was like, do

1386
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 6: I want to go through with this or do I

1387
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 6: want to be with my family? And he was just like,

1388
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 6: you gotta go do this, Like I don't want there,

1389
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 6: So I had this. So I literally the last time

1390
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 6: I saw my dad was at the front door of

1391
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 6: the house and he was just like, this is it

1392
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 6: like And then a week later you passed away and

1393
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 6: you were on the show. I was on the show.

1394
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 6: I won my fight a gift, I won my fight

1395
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 6: for all. Yeah, I want my fight to get in

1396
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 6: the house. And my dad passed away the next day,

1397
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 6: like like within hours of after my fight, like hinged

1398
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 6: on long enough to know I won.

1399
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 3: He didn't see it, but he was like, but that's

1400
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:39,919
Speaker 3: a bad move. That's like a gift.

1401
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 2: Ye, Dad's supposed to So that's my final moment, you know.

1402
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 6: I I when the day comes and I wake up

1403
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 6: at my hotel room with a world title sitting on

1404
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 6: my end table, and I compare the moments that'll never

1405
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 6: be be that's forever.

1406
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 3: That's like, that was huge for me.

1407
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 4: I gotta say, though, I wonder how the pressure feels

1408
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 4: to win now that you are in the commentary business

1409
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 4: a little bit, like you know, they obviously I'm sure

1410
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 4: they're not going to be it's not a question of well, if.

1411
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 2: You lose, you're out the door.

1412
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 4: But it can't be false that they don't want you

1413
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 4: guys to win in those roles.

1414
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 3: Oh man, it makes the team look good, you know.

1415
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 3: But it's one of those things.

1416
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 6: It's it's more you shine through your performance, you shine

1417
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 6: through being. There's a lot of guys you could put

1418
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 6: up there with really high credentials, like Daniel Cormie is

1419
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 6: one of the rare guys that has the best credentials

1420
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 6: in the sport, but he can speak really well, no

1421
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,919
Speaker 6: disrespect Henry Shudo one of the greatest fighters we would

1422
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 6: ever see, but he would not be good on the mike.

1423
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 2: And on mute. Love jail though.

1424
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 3: It's not all about having the it's not about having

1425
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 3: the accolades.

1426
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 2: It's about performance.

1427
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 6: You get the opportunity to show that you can speak,

1428
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 6: and show that you analyze these fights and you take

1429
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 6: it serious and most importantly, take yourself out of the equation.

1430
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 6: It's like, you can't you can't assert yourself and this

1431
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 6: is what I would do, or this is it's you

1432
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 6: give your just your your analysis with you outside of

1433
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 6: the equation. And I think that's hard for some fighters

1434
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 6: because it's like it's always about how would I beat

1435
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 6: this guy, especially when you're like doing things involving guys

1436
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 6: in your weight class.

1437
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 5: All right, all right, you can send me to hell

1438
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 5: for this, but but you're open enough that I want

1439
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 5: to ask you. Yeah, I said before you know, man,

1440
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 5: I'd love to see Colby call out cam I even

1441
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 5: do it. Now, what if someone said, I love I

1442
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 5: love I love Michael Kisa the call out shovcout Rock

1443
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 5: Monof or someone like.

1444
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 6: That and do that right now, you're around the same

1445
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 6: management team. That's not That's not the one for me,

1446
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 6: but for him. I'm not the one going to call

1447
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 6: the lower rank.

1448
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: Guys out anyways.

1449
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 6: Like I'm still sitting a top you know, in the

1450
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 6: in the top fifteen.

1451
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna that. For him, it has to be

1452
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 3: a title fight.

1453
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 2: You're saying that, No, it would have to.

1454
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 6: Be a title fight, but it would a more organic something,

1455
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 6: something more organic, something worth more, more more than.

1456
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 3: Just a fight.

1457
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 2: You know, what did you make of his performance?

1458
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 3: It was nice, I am. I mean we would have

1459
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 3: to go tip for as to who's the bigger rock

1460
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 3: Mona fan. I think the guys stellar.

1461
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 6: I mean it's like in the world Chuck full of

1462
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 6: hamsat I have, Like there's this guy lurking in the

1463
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 6: shadows that to me is better than he is.

1464
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 3: Like I think they have the same skills.

1465
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 6: But when you watch Chef cat Fight, he has bulletproof composure.

1466
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 6: He might not be as funny on the microphone and

1467
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 6: have his his viral moments, but you'll you'll gillra Burns

1468
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 6: couldn't get him to break stature and fight reckless like

1469
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 6: the way Hamza fought him, like he should have fought

1470
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 6: a little more, like his coach was saying to him

1471
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 6: in the corners, like quit trying to brawl, be more technical,

1472
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 6: put the jab in his face.

1473
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 3: Those types of things, Rock Monov. You could do, say

1474
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 3: or do anything.

1475
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 5: That guy is so composed for him to Luke was

1476
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 5: day one ish that this guy.

1477
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 4: Well, and I'll tell you this too, it doesn't matter

1478
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 4: what country you're from. If you wear dead animals on

1479
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 4: your head, you're a different motherfucker.

1480
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 2: He's still always need a hat.

1481
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 3: By the way, Danny's on the other side of the serious,

1482
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 3: say that about my hat.

1483
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 4: You've ever seen, including ones in the United States with

1484
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 4: like dative American population where they wear animal pelts. Dude,

1485
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 4: that's a different level of dialed in right there.

1486
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 3: Oh dude, for sure. Not to mention those are authentic.

1487
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 3: That's a that's a real wolf on his head and

1488
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 3: side fly through the airport like a coonskin cap like,

1489
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 3: oh this is cute. I'll just this little wolf hat.

1490
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 6: No states Like heck no, they go out there and

1491
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 6: skin the thing out back and tire up.

1492
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: I know he's out.

1493
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 4: He's obviously from Kazakhstan and he's with Sanford m A. Yeah,

1494
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 4: but you guys have the same man, you train with

1495
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 4: him at all? I haven't, no, No, I'd love to.

1496
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 6: I want to train with armand armand was just here

1497
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 6: in Las Vegas and we eclipsed each other.

1498
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 2: That's another kid, that's uh.

1499
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 4: Dude, his balance on the single leg when when gam

1500
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 4: raight I was, I was, I just my mouth hit

1501
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 4: the floor.

1502
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 5: Irn. It's like going for the high crotch and running

1503
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 5: that pipe. You are the worst.

1504
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 2: He does this all day. But in reality, dude, was

1505
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 2: that not?

1506
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 4: That was just next I mean, it's hard to explain,

1507
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 4: but it was so athletic, skill based, intense and Gamera

1508
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 4: by the way, not relenting and finding it in the

1509
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 4: fourth and fifth rounds like unbelievable.

1510
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 3: That was just a display.

1511
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 6: And I know that's kind of been the narrative after

1512
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 6: the fight, is that was really the display of like

1513
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 6: the next generation of fighting that we get to look

1514
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 6: forward to, like that's that's what fights are going to

1515
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 6: look like going forward, Like, yeah, that was something special

1516
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 6: for anybody that's a fight fan just to see that display.

1517
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 3: But to that like it.

1518
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 6: Just was so dynamic, like everything on the ground and

1519
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 6: the exchanges was dynamic. The single leg defense was dynamic,

1520
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 6: the exchanges. Everything was just kind of like a step above,

1521
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 6: almost like in a progression type of sense, like, Wow,

1522
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 6: this is the this is the progressive level of mixed

1523
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 6: martial arts, Like we get to look forward to down

1524
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 6: the road and it's just like, dude, I openly said it.

1525
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 3: If I was twenty five, when I was twenty.

1526
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 6: Five in the UFC and I had to fight him

1527
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 6: at twenty five, I get fucking thumped like I would

1528
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 6: have gotten.

1529
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 3: My butt kicked like I do.

1530
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 4: Also, the energy expenditure between those two at one hundred

1531
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 4: and fifty five pounds, you just don't see.

1532
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 2: That a lot.

1533
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 4: No.

1534
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 6: I talked to a kid that trained with Gamra at Tiger,

1535
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 6: and he said that that guy is just the goer's

1536
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 6: He's the guy in the gym that just endless gas tank,

1537
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 6: notorious for just having a good cardio, and that was

1538
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 6: that was like next level conditioning, dude, because everything he

1539
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 6: did was a big move like this, even the the andries,

1540
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 6: the takedowns are big moves that the escapes from bottom,

1541
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 6: like Arma's really sticky. He's got like more of the

1542
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 6: Daghistan style where Gamra just wants to scramble all over guys,

1543
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 6: and I'm like, how is this guy not toast? Like

1544
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 6: he just how many backbridges do you do to get

1545
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 6: out of those positions?

1546
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 2: It's crazy? Who are so go ahead?

1547
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 5: I was going to say, you've clearly got a lot

1548
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 5: of work to do and you're ready to come back,

1549
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 5: and I can't wait to find out who you're fighting next.

1550
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 3: But you can beat.

1551
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 5: Anybody in any night, which you've shown that flash without question.

1552
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 5: So do you feel, you know, extra pressure right now

1553
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 5: in this, in this, in this come back to your

1554
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 5: next flight?

1555
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 6: The shitty reality is I've been in this position before.

1556
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 6: I know what it's like to have to go into

1557
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 6: a fight on two losses, and it's something that there's

1558
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 6: no more there's no higher amount of pressure I can

1559
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 6: put on myself than what I already do. So like

1560
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 6: it being two losses, I put the same amount of

1561
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 6: pressure on myself. And if i'm if not more than

1562
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 6: I'm I'm on a wind streak.

1563
00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 2: You know.

1564
00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 6: It's like it's not like I feel like I have

1565
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 6: nothing to lose, but I've been here before.

1566
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 2: Like it's like what Chale said before, like, in order

1567
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 2: to win, you got to know how to lose. And

1568
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 2: that's a reality.

1569
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 6: You got to know how to That's brilliant, but it

1570
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 6: really is, you have to know how to lose. And

1571
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 6: I fortunately, I've got to live that. I know how

1572
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 6: to handle this type of scenario. So come to fight night,

1573
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 6: you got to just put it behind you, dude, especially

1574
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 6: if you when you spend enough time here and you

1575
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 6: put on exciting fights. It's it goes a long ways

1576
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 6: when you bring your best product, Like that's what it's

1577
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 6: that's the most important.

1578
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:30,919
Speaker 5: And I ask it to you that way because when

1579
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 5: I think of you getting back to the top, which

1580
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 5: let's be fair, you're a couple wins away.

1581
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 3: I mean you're right, there could be one win. I

1582
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 3: love your style against Uzma.

1583
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 5: I just want to see what it looks like, you

1584
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like do you think about that

1585
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 5: same thing when you watch him defend this title?

1586
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's stylistically, he's one of the more intriguing matchups

1587
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 6: for me for sure. Like it's it'd be interesting to

1588
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 6: see somebody really have to bring out the wrestler in it,

1589
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 6: like really try to be able to get him to

1590
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 6: stay engaged with some wrestling scenarios because he's pretty springy,

1591
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 6: like he's a guy. You get him to the floor,

1592
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 6: he's and to bounce up if you even get him there.

1593
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 5: But as a wrestler and you like, yeah, I want

1594
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 5: to see that one feel that I want to see

1595
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 5: how I do?

1596
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, absolutely, those are those are always for me,

1597
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 6: the more challenging fights and the ones I run towards most,

1598
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 6: Like the Brady.

1599
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 2: Fight was like, fuck, this guy is supposed to be

1600
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 2: the better grappler.

1601
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 6: I always want to challenge myself against the guy that's

1602
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 6: a good wrestler or good grappler, Like that's always. It's

1603
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 6: kind of like the style I have is the style

1604
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 6: I want to challenge myself against. I feel like it's

1605
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 6: the most. It makes the hair of the back of

1606
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 6: my next stand up a lot more when I gotta go.

1607
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 4: As a fan of the sport, who are the fighters

1608
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 4: you like? As a fan? As a fan, you like

1609
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 4: just like love to watch a big, busy guy, so

1610
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 4: you can guy rock Mono.

1611
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 6: I'm a big I like schaf Cat a lot and

1612
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 6: I've been on him for for a long time. I

1613
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 6: do like watching Aljamin and Sterling fight. I enjoy watching uh.

1614
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 6: I like watching the Adria.

1615
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 2: Guy I just had. I just interviewed him. We had

1616
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 2: a forty five minute interview about boxing an mma. He

1617
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: is a it's that's that's impressive.

1618
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 6: That's another one of those guys you throw in the

1619
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 6: categories with the srookians and the gam rauts, Like he's

1620
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 6: showing that.

1621
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 2: Next level of MMA that's going to be the norm.

1622
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 6: He's there's such a it's a paradigm shift and where

1623
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 6: the sport's headed now and how it's like back when

1624
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 6: it started, it was like the jiu jitsu guys, and.

1625
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 3: Then it's the ground and pound guys.

1626
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 6: Then it's the strikers that can wrestle, then it's the

1627
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 6: then it turns into the athletes.

1628
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 3: And we've had kind of that.

1629
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 6: We had that for a long time, the George Saint

1630
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 6: Pierre's the athletes of the sport. Now we're starting to

1631
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 6: see the athletes that can blend the techniques at the

1632
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 6: same time, like Israel Asanya amazing martial artists, but he's

1633
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 6: also a fucking phenomenal athlete.

1634
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 3: I bet he could do a very lot of athletic

1635
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 3: things on a.

1636
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 2: Track field, dance like no bullshit.

1637
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, even in the way he dances. But now we're

1638
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 3: gonna see the more extreme version of that.

1639
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 6: We're seeing that Asian yards, we're seeing it in armants,

1640
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 6: rookie and like it's just crazy.

1641
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 4: Necess something to me that kind of caught my attention to,

1642
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 4: which is you think about like the guys, the next gen,

1643
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 4: guys his his, his generation.

1644
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 2: Dudes.

1645
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 4: He was telling me like how many times he encounters

1646
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 4: people and the word he used was that they're they're stupid.

1647
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 4: They're not they don't they can't compute the way, they

1648
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 4: don't have thoughtful offense. And the early generation of MMA

1649
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 4: has had a out of agro tough at ship, some skills,

1650
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 4: no doubt about it. But now you're getting the guys

1651
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 4: who are real.

1652
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 2: Like dude, Floyd. You can say whatever you want about

1653
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 2: Floyd fight IQ off.

1654
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 6: The charts, maybe astronom seriously, Yeah, one of the best

1655
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 6: guys with fight AQ, especially in a sport when you

1656
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 6: can you can lean on that a lot in.

1657
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 3: M m A. And then this isn't me taking a

1658
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 3: shot at boxing, but in m m A you can't.

1659
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 3: You can't.

1660
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 6: You can't just lean on having really high fight IQ.

1661
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 6: It's like there's too much stuff going on. There's too

1662
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 6: many things to compute in a boxing match. In a

1663
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 6: boxing match, you can have very high Floyd, Yeah, he's

1664
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 6: the he's got the highest fight IQ for a box

1665
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 6: I wouldn't say for a fighter, but for boxing, I

1666
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:36,439
Speaker 6: think it's.

1667
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 2: That's Bud Crawford's up there too.

1668
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 3: Bud Crawford's good. He fights and bull stands as well.

1669
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 3: You know Michael Kias is up there too.

1670
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 2: Yea working on the fighter. The funk out here?

1671
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 4: Hell here, all right, here's one thing though I mentioned, well,

1672
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 4: we brought it here, so let me just bring it up.

1673
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 2: You're a disgusting person who eats I'm actually hungry who

1674
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 2: eats disgusting things?

1675
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 3: What is this experiment?

1676
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 2: So here's let me explain my side of the story.

1677
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 4: So one day I don't know how I found out

1678
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 4: you ate chocolate hummus, which is just.

1679
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 2: I just I wouldn't hit you because you kicked my ass,

1680
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 2: but I do.

1681
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 7: Want to hit you over it because you're Lebanese too,

1682
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 7: write mom my mom from and so here's why I

1683
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 7: want to pitch this to you, because you are Italian,

1684
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 7: and you know with Italian cooking, what's the secret to

1685
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 7: Italian cooking.

1686
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 4: They don't have a shitload of ingredients, but what they

1687
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 4: have is all high quality. Like you have the right tomatoes,

1688
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 4: the right pasta, the right salts, the right oils, and

1689
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 4: you call it a day.

1690
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 2: Why are you?

1691
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 4: How are you another American who is destroying the heritage

1692
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 4: of the Middle East by putting fucking chocolate in your hummus.

1693
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 3: I didn't put the chocolate in the hummus. This wasn't

1694
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 3: my idea.

1695
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 6: I just happened to be at fred Meyer passing by

1696
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 6: and I got some pretzel chips in my cart, and

1697
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 6: my fiance now wife saw this chocolate hummus and we're like,

1698
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 6: let's let's give it a go.

1699
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 2: Passed away a long time ago. Bro, And you're a

1700
01:01:58,360 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 2: pro fighter, and you're a pro fighter.

1701
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, my mom was.

1702
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 2: Around and she saw this. She beat your ass.

1703
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 6: Believe that you beat your ass and make you try this.

1704
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna eat it. Oh is that good?

1705
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 3: It's probably like a dessert. Look you're gonna eat.

1706
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 4: First of all, you don't even the hummusle pretzels just

1707
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 4: number one off the break. You're doing this all wrong.

1708
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 4: Just I want to point that out.

1709
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,959
Speaker 3: Somebody's been watching cooking. Get a decent amount.

1710
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 2: That's decent amount. Yeah, sorry, mom, don't. Oh god, I'm

1711
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 2: gonna see here at this bag for a while.

1712
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's a lie. Ye this, Yeah, I love.

1713
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 2: I can not swallow this.

1714
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 3: Swallow it's good for you.

1715
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 4: Do you eat fucking cigarette butts and road? It's like, Michael,

1716
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 4: what are you eating for your weake?

1717
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 2: Your weight? Cut their banana.

1718
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 3: Peels, no chocolate, hummus, this is delicious. Oh my god, dude,

1719
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 3: I recommend.

1720
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 4: That so fucking gross. Let me wash it down with

1721
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 4: my bank ergy. I refined palate.

1722
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 2: That's really bad.

1723
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 3: It like the desserve.

1724
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 2: It's just like it's delicious. Michael. I gotta tell you,

1725
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 2: you're one of a kind dude. You're a great asset

1726
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 2: to the sport. You're a funny dude. You're a smart dude.

1727
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 4: Take care of your brain, I remember, quite sincerely. Yeah,

1728
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 4: because you're using it to great effect.

1729
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1730
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 2: Sure? And I don't When when do you think you

1731
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 2: might be back for me? I think early fall would

1732
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 2: probably be the most realistic. I got to make sure

1733
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 2: I just like I said, when it comes to my body.

1734
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 2: At this point, I got todop my eyes across my t's.

1735
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 6: I got to make a real run at this, and

1736
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 6: I could shorten that by not making sure that I

1737
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 6: take care of it.

1738
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:35,919
Speaker 2: So third fourth quarter this year?

1739
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 4: Thing abut coming a third fourth quarter? Yeah, well, we

1740
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 4: can't wait to see him. You were on the short

1741
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 4: list when we thought of this whole concept.

1742
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 3: And uh, I got this man of drug rug already.

1743
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 4: Get this man of drug right round of applus, Michael ps

1744
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 4: everybody there is UFC well the way UFC analysts.

1745
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and complete degenerate. Don't forget before we go.

1746
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:57,439
Speaker 2: Anything you want to plug.

1747
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 6: Uh no, just shouts my fans, my family. I always

1748
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 6: give Danny a shout out, not just he's sitting on

1749
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 6: the other side.

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01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 4: Also, we gave Danny a ton of ship. He's a

1751
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 4: great manager. He's one of the few reasonable people in

1752
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 4: the sport. And uh, honestly, your success is not accidentally either.

1753
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 4: Well it's someone accidental, but that's you know.

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01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, so I got but thanks Wyse, this is great.

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01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 3: Hope to do it again.

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01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 2: There you go from service diaries. We're out, bitch,