WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Will Randy Gregory Contribute? 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:06.200 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:18.000 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:21.439 training live from the Dallas Cowboys World headhours at the 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:34.000 Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips, 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:39.800 and Bill Jones. What's up? Welcome back to Oxnard, California. 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:43.720 This is Talking Cowboys final week of training camp out 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:47.519 on the West Coast, starting off on a Monday, joining us. 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:50.160 Thank you guys for the next hour. A few practices 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:53.159 left for the Cowboys starting this afternoon. They'll roll it 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:56.720 through Thursday, I believe, and then head home on Friday. 0:00:56.800 --> 0:01:01.200 Rob Phillips in the Captain's share filling it for Bill 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:04.400 Jones is always joined by Brian brought us, Mickey Spagnola 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:07.520 and Nate Newton. So gracious to join us again. How 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:10.360 are you but special, great man? I'm you know, excited 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:14.080 man to hear what you guys gotta say man and chiming. 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:18.600 You know, when I get opportunity listen to this, you 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:20.480 make time for you Like you don't have an opinion, 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:23.039 right right? I mean I have opinion, but you know 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:25.640 it's just I like to hear what you guys have 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:29.480 to say, the experts, and then a guy six times 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:31.800 such as myself, me and Rob. You know what I'm saying, 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:35.280 Rob Novice, Man, he's saying backing right now. Yeah, yeah, 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:37.800 I can't allow we can't allow this to don't try 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:43.240 to soften us up. I sell you what fellas. It's 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:46.840 been wild. Man. I gotta hit the road today. We're 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:49.440 gonna leave today today. That's why I'm doing his last 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:52.760 show with y'all. That's why I'm willing to listen. That's 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:54.880 why I'm willing to be all ears now. Now you've 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:56.600 got a long drive ahead of you. There's a lot 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:58.760 of listening going on there. That's why you got Louis 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:02.680 little More and you listen to tape. I've been doing 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:06.000 that since I was six. Man. That's cool. Yeah, okay, 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:09.000 I've learned some things about you this trip. With your 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:11.720 taste in music, I love it all man. He loves 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:15.560 eighties movies. It's it's funny because with Nate, I think 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:17.560 Nate missed his calling. I think he could have been 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:20.520 an overnight disc jockey, one of those, you know, for 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:25.079 stations in Detroit or Chicago. I mean, your taste of music, 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:27.560 is is unique in a way that I would not 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:30.320 have thought that your taste with you know, Eddie and 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:33.040 the Cruisers. Yeah, when I was, I was like, you're like, 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:36.120 you know, we have Alexa and Nate's Nate's talked by 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.880 the way, by the way, go to Amazon your Amazon show. 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:43.799 Alexa played Dallas Cowboys, Yes, for your Cowboys News exclusive 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:46.200 content including Brian broad Us Q and A's But yeah, 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:48.880 it's been j Nate's been DJA and for Us at Night, 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:53.120 and it's been it's actually really entertaining. The various musics 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.320 about twelve times to get her name right. Alexis, Yeah, 0:02:56.360 --> 0:03:02.239 Alexis Alexis, And I was like, I know, Alexa, she's 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:04.720 got sensitive ears. Yea, it is straight. You know when 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:07.280 you it's a lot of as your upbringing, though you 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.280 know it's in various parts you cut you think, well, okay, 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:12.040 well house music has music affect me and stuff. But yeah, 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:13.760 you have a good taste, good taste of music. And 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:16.320 he's got a good eye for practice. We're gonna get 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.520 into that. And Cowboys have had a couple of practices 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:22.280 I believe since our last show, and one guy in 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:26.200 particular has showed up and look pretty good first time 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:28.960 in camp number ninety four. Randy Gregory like in that, 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.440 let's start off with that. You know, my point on 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:35.600 it was, I didn't care how well he practiced. What 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:38.880 he did in practice. The fact that he practiced after 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:42.200 missing all that time and he's back in pads, I 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:45.440 think is sort of a triumph pumpler itself. Uh and 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:49.240 then anything after that is gravy. And he actually started 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:52.960 showing some of the signs we saw of ya. This 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:55.760 guy can rush the quarterback. You know, nothing else he 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:58.920 can rush the quarterback. And uh so, yeah, I thought 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:02.040 it was a good start for him. And you know, 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:04.600 when I think the players see that, Nate, you tell 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:06.680 me when you get an addition like that, I think 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:09.240 he kind of juices everybody else up. Yeah, I just 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:11.520 got it. You know you're rooting for He's just a 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:13.880 guy that everybody's rooting for us, So you feel good 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:16.280 for him when you see him out of moving around 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.120 with a team. Well, they had him in a Nickel's 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:23.120 situation yesterday as playing that right defensive end, and you 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:26.039 know it was against the one so well against the 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:29.120 ones in the way of with Cam Fleming playing as 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:32.239 the left tackle and Connor Williams playing as the left guard, 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:36.839 but he and Tyron Crawford come on a twist stunt 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:40.640 and Crawford got such penetration on the play that it 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:45.599 tied up Fleming and Williams together, and all of a sudden, 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:48.719 Randy Gregory's up the field and he reads what's happening 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:52.919 with Crawford getting the penetration, and you talk about knife 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:56.839 quickly just right behind the you know, instead of going 0:04:56.920 --> 0:05:00.120 wide in there and getting all wadded up. Yep. He 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.320 he hits it, like Mickey says, with some with some 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:06.840 angle and with some bend, and he's on. He's on 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.800 Prescott and Prescott throws the ball. But what happens. What 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:12.840 happens in the secondary? They got a busted coverage on 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:16.920 the back end, so Tavon Austin is running free. Well, 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.960 it's gonna be a sack. Gregory pulls up and Gregory 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:23.120 is on Prescott as he's I mean, the ball is 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:26.839 still in his hand, and Randy pulls back. So you know, 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:28.440 here they have this is what we talk about. With 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:31.880 good pass rush, you bust in the secondary. But all 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:33.800 of a sudden, now you get a rusher home on 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:38.599 a good well executed twist. But that's Randy Gregory. That's 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:40.960 how that's how you can use Randy Gregory. He's got 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:45.279 that slinky, slippery way of doing things to get to 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:48.320 the quarterback. I bet you hated guys that could couldn't 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:50.839 tart their body like that. That the line of scrimmage. 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:55.200 Oh yeah, it wasn't a good deal, man, But who cares? 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:59.200 Nah what? I what? I look at Gregory and when 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:05.440 I think of him, I think time is on our side. 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:09.040 I really feel like he's gonna give it as all 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:12.960 in all to be on that field, and as bad 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:14.520 as I want him on the field, I want to 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:16.800 Thinking about the other day, I asked him, I said, hey, man, 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:20.320 how you feel and just from being with the team 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:22.919 and being around man, I guess it's that anxiety. And 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:25.640 he said, I'm a little bit gass. He don't look 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:27.440 at right. He said, I'm a little bit gass. And 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:29.960 I said, Okay, maybe the coaches do know what they're 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:33.239 doing with the trainers and bring them along slowly because 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.599 he has lost his foundation outter eighteen months. That that 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:39.599 endurance that you endurance that you have as a player, 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:42.240 you know. So I was just glad that he was 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:44.160 out there to talk about that a little bit though. 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:46.400 The endurance that you talk about to play the game. 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:50.479 As you know, and you guys been around long enough 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:54.159 now every day is a build up. You're trying to 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:57.200 build up. And you got equity in what you do, 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:59.200 and you got money in the bank. And if you 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:02.599 can get that base foundation where you where your body, 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.320 it's called muscle memory. As quick as your body can 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:08.919 get back to that, it stopped building that endurance. So okay, 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:10.640 this is what I do, This is how I recover, 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:13.000 and your body just builds off of that year out 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:16.400 the year until you get a certain agent on the dcline. Well, 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:19.240 he hasn't had no equity, no money in the bank, 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:21.840 no nothing, so he's been running free. You know what 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:23.640 I'm saying. He's just like a guy going to workout 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:26.160 every day. When we work out every day, were in 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:29.440 great shape and to somebody hit us until a grown 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:34.120 it's a difference when you get when you're getting hit. 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:37.720 You know all of that, what the weightlifting you've been 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:41.000 doing and running, His friend, that you ain't built up nothing. 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:42.800 All you did was got in shape to get hit. 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:45.400 Now you got to get in shape to now you 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:47.480 gotta get hit to get to build that equity. And 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:49.520 that's what he's missing. So there's two layers to it, 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:52.080 right yeah, because he's getting that second layer right now. 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.960 Before that, Jason Garrett talked about how he needed a 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:59.400 baseline for conditioning and football movement more so than just okay, 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:01.800 he's out here under a round going north south. There's 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:04.119 certain football movements he needed to work with the strength 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.640 coach and get used to with that. Now he's got 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:09.360 to put the pads on and get take a little 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:11.840 pound and come back with that. I mean, you know, 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:15.000 it's like it's like a guy training for a boxing man. Yes, 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.200 you can do all the shadow boxing and running you 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:19.240 on and hit the heavy bag, but guess what, the 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:22.160 heavy bag don't hit you back, thank you. And you 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:24.240 got to get used to getting hit. And and I 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:26.240 and I you know, I saw a flumming a couple 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:29.520 of times. Time up a little bit and it's like, okay, 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:33.080 now I'm pushing three hundred and thirty pounds, right, that's difficult, 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:36.880 but moving. That's moving. See that, That's what I said. 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:42.160 That's moving dead. Wait is a funny thing. Man, you know, 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:44.280 you you you you can control it. I'm talking about 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:46.760 to wait. You know, it's just scoring a certain way 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:49.720 where it won't hurt you, But that way out there 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:51.720 is moving all over the place, right, and they can 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:54.839 hurt you, you know. But as Brian said, he was 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:57.120 in the backfield a lot at the end of practice 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.400 in that team period. He talked about the stunt, the 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:03.199 twist he beat Rico had the play of practice to 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:04.959 catch in practice, right, But I don't know if that 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:07.480 would have been a catch in a game because because 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:10.319 Gregory was busting through that line, I can't remember if 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:14.920 he beat compos or flaming off that rights compos compos. 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:18.559 He you can just see the natural gifts when he's 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:21.120 out there, even in team drills. And he's added we've 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:23.680 talked about it too. He's added Nate that that bulk 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.640 up top two, he's carrying two hundred and forty two pounds, 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:29.520 and that's that's gonna serve him well when the season starts. 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:32.040 I think, yeah, I think it will to it. And 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:35.840 on top of that, man, he's been going eighteen months, 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:40.120 so he got eighteen months of natural man strength. Yeah. 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:44.160 You know how old is he now, twenty two, twenty five, 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:47.240 So he got that fool man strimth not. I tell 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:49.880 you when you get a certain age and y'all can 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:52.640 the test it is. You know, you think you're strow 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:54.640 at twenty one, twenty two, twenty two, until you come 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:56.920 up against the grown men at twenty five, twenty six, 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:59.559 twenty seven, you start to hit your prime as a man. 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.480 And that's what he's starting to hit. So he's building 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:05.520 his endurance, he's in shape, he's been in his his indorance, 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:07.800 he's getting his foundation of hitting. And now he got 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:09.840 a living of that man strength about it because I'm 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:15.800 still getting stronger. You are here stilling out. Yeah. I 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:18.360 like what Jerry had to say when he was that 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:23.040 you think he can contribute against Carolina and he said yes, yes, 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:25.800 yes I do. So that kind of gives you when 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:29.240 Jerry says that that that's not him just making stuff up. 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:32.000 That's what he's hearing from his scouts, in his assistant coach. 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:35.320 Here's your stupid former personnel man sitting on the panel. 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:37.920 And and I'm wanting him to make the team, you know, 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:40.920 I'm but no, I'm wanting him to do I'm wanting 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:44.760 him to go into the Carolina game with some of 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:47.360 those good twists, rush some of the good one on 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.520 one wins. Playing well in the preseason, you know, and 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:52.480 maybe we'll get that, maybe you get you know, get 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:54.800 him late in some of those games and all of 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:56.760 a sudden when you're trying to get off the field, 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:58.760 when the two minute warning at the end of the 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:01.520 San Francisco game, you got a guy like Randy Gregory 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:04.480 who's capable of getting to the quarterback and not allowing 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:07.120 the ball to go tick tick tick tick down the field. 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.679 You know, maybe he's a guy in the uh in 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:14.199 the Arizona game when they go back to pass, you know, 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.880 with games online, he goes and makes that play. I 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:21.839 wanted him to make this team by him being by 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:25.280 coming back and doing all the things necessary. But they're 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:27.560 gonna put him on this team, and you know that's 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:30.040 that's good. I mean, that's good for them. How do 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:32.120 you think they're gonna, like you said, they've been kind 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:34.920 of slow playing it be they've given him a bassline, 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:38.240 he's now he's into pads. How much preseason work do 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:40.480 you guys think he gets or he needs to get 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:43.720 ready for games? Oh? I would think he's gonna at 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:46.839 least play two preseason games and who knows. Now, you 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:50.599 guys tell me, because I didn't think he dressed for 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:54.000 the game. He did, he did, he went on the trip. 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:57.319 Did it was in a dressed which which means that 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:00.959 the uh play by play here didn't list ninety four 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:03.320 as one of the guys that you know, I remember 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:05.760 looking down. I remember looking down at the national anthem. 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:07.880 That's why I saw him first. Yeah, you know all 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:11.520 the Cowboys were lined up. Okay, so that's a start. Yeah. Yeah, 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:13.640 Now it's now, maybe you get him in for a 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:17.400 play or two. You're not nothing extensive. You don't want 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:19.280 to get him hurt at this point. But I think 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:22.679 those last two preseason games. Let's see what happens this week. Yeah, 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:26.320 maybe let's see this week if he's getting more, if 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:29.680 he's getting if they're running eight plays in a team 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:32.880 period and he's playing in three of them, you know, 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:36.520 I mean, it's just like these other it's just like 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.920 Charles Tapper and everyone else. You know. Maybe they're trying 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:41.480 to get him ready to play. And if they can 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:44.960 get good Cincinnati, they can get him the team to Carolina, 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:47.200 the Carolina game, they can get him the third down 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:51.280 he's in. Yeah, Nate, don't worry about the run. Remember 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.760 you last night you're talking about Charles Haley. You have 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:57.240 to have one or two guys on your team, and 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:00.440 y'all had him, a Green Bay had him. Well, this guy, 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:03.800 you know, yeah, okay, he ain't a great run stop, 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:07.439 but let him come a past the situation. And every 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:10.040 team has had a guy. Oh you know, I don't 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:15.760 understand stop the run, coach. We know the quick is 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.880 about the fields. To wreck the quarterback, that's the quickst 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:20.920 way off the field. And if you got a guy 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.559 that can possibly wreck that quarterback and have him have 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:25.959 his feet tap in and getting rid of the balls. 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:29.640 Who so I thought they affected Garoppolo the other day 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:34.559 with the way they were side, even on the stuff 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:35.960 on the boots and the way I mean, if they 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:41.000 continue to have that and then develop somebody else besides Lawrence, 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:46.280 Doran's Armstrong, to me, is got a chance. Now. The 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:48.840 thing about Doran's Armstrong is it's been a little bit 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:53.719 of a too deep get caught now, you're right, you know, 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:57.280 I mean, he's they're trying, they're really really trying to 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:01.160 develop him as a pass rusher. But you know, Doran's 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:06.760 Armstrong Randy Gregory, somebody help DeMarcus Lawrence on that other side. 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:09.040 If they could get somebody Legitimi, if you can kick 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:13.280 Crawford inside and let him go to work and say 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:15.800 Woods or whoever else you want to put at that 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:20.280 tackle spot Cony, Ealy, whoever. Yeah, I mean, whoever you 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:23.240 want to try in there inside and they can and 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:26.200 you could get some penetration like they had the other day. 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:29.080 For that sets up stuff coming off the edge, because 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.200 now you've got guys occupied. You got centners and guards 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:36.240 occupied with inside players, and then you got tackles one 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:39.920 on one other. Yeah, single matchups. Yeah, if you got 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:44.200 one horse. If you got one horse, you got something 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:48.080 special on your defense. If you got two horses, Yeah, 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:50.920 it's no way you can have a double. Yeah, is 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:52.200 no way you can have a double. I look at 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:55.880 the rams. When you got Sue, Yeah, and you got Donald, 0:14:57.600 --> 0:14:59.560 you can turn, you can do whatever you want. It 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:03.200 ain't gonna work. If Sue feels good and we know 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:07.120 Donald rockers you you you don't win it. All we 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:10.880 need is somebody on the other side. All right, the tackle. See, 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.320 when you got two horses, non't matter whether they playing 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:15.880 tackle or whether they deem as a means. But if 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:18.600 you got two horses, it ain't no turning. See, this 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:23.600 is where David Irving was just second horse, right all 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:25.800 of a sudden. If you, okay, say you do get 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:30.080 a Randy Gregory developed and now you've got okay, Crawford's 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:33.640 playing the one, Irving's inside on the three. You got 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:35.840 Laurence on the left side, and Gregor, I mean, now 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.840 you're tacking him with four guys. You got power guy, 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:41.160 you got a tall guy, you got a fast guy, 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:42.600 and you got a guy that's got a lot in 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:46.200 the tool belt rushing on off that other side. So okay, 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:48.880 how do you block that? How do you account how 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:53.200 do you account for all that discarded? Malik? Well, I'm 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:57.680 just saying, okay, Maliki, good I'm doing. But I'm just saying, though, 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:00.480 if for what we're seeing right right right know, but 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:03.600 this is where David Irving and what we know about 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:06.800 David Irving is a pass rusher. This is where it's 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:09.360 a problem. Now, this is you know, and then and 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:13.000 this team might not be its absolute best rushing the 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:16.320 passer until week five. Yeah, and that and that's and 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:19.600 that's that's a that's a shame because you know, once 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:22.600 he gets we all know what David Irving could do. Yea, 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:25.560 how you talk about slinky and you know, not be 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:29.520 blocked and get inside and attack gaps and knock passes down. 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:33.000 Capture the quarterback. We saw him do that against Green Base. Captured, 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:38.240 doesn't throw a deep cross and with twelve seconds to 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:40.680 go to set up a game winning field goal. See 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:47.440 that's you know what you know, David Irvin? Yeah, I 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:51.760 don't know. I don't know what it's physical. I don't know. 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:54.880 I don't know if he's gonna be physically ready at 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:58.560 game five. No, this this is the scouts. This is 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:01.800 the scouts. In my office, putting my hand, I'm looking 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:04.880 at my personnelboard and I know his tag is over 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:07.359 here on the bottom quarner. And I'm thinking, okay, what 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:09.320 did I just Okay, who am I going to rush 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.080 this week? Oh? Gosh, I need you know, I need that. 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:14.680 You're playing the Lions. You're playing the Lions, You're playing 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:18.720 Russell Wilson, You're playing teams that have these quarterbacks that 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.480 you know that that could throw from the pocket, move around. 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:24.959 Nate brings up two many points one MALIEK. Collins if 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:28.640 he's healthy when he gets back, that helps inside number two. 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:31.359 We saw David Irving come in after four games that 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:33.959 spension last year and make plays. He had seven sacks 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:36.760 and seven eight games whatever it was. But he had 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:38.920 a training camp in a preseason last year. He doesn't 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:42.119 have that this season. So what you don't really know 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:44.200 it is a wildcard. R what kind of shape he's in? 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:46.520 What you know? How ready is he to contribute just 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.359 after four games? Just start making your plans without him, 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:52.280 and then if you get him, it's gravy. Yeah, because 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:54.240 I just don't think you can count on him right now. 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:56.960 See this is this is where I mean, we haven't 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:00.560 I should I shouldn't speak for you, gentlemen. I have 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:04.520 not heard one thing about David Urban and the scamp, 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:09.040 not one thing. Well, he's he's in California working out. Yeah, 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:11.040 that was all Jerry would go, and he said, I 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:14.240 can't talk about it, so he refused to answer the 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.520 question yesterday. You know, if you look at if we 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:19.399 look at our devons of line, we we you know, 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:24.320 open up our cars and look at our Devensive line. Guys, 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:27.840 you can depend on the Markus Lawrence. Guys. You can 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:31.880 depend on Tyrone Crawford. Guys, you can depend on talk 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:34.480 with child for what he can give you. Guys. You 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:38.600 can depend on guys. You can depend on guys, you 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:40.920 can depend on. You ain't got no more names. You've 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:46.320 got some. You got some young fellows inside shrugs, and yeah, 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:50.479 so Daytone Jones is actually stepping Dayton Jones has been 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:53.520 better than Ward. Yes, yes he's and and you know 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:57.040 and now that you have you know with his situation 0:18:57.280 --> 0:19:00.720 and you know, I there's got I I felt all 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:04.600 along there was gonna be guys on this team, especially 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:07.680 this defensive line, that was gonna that we're gonna cut themselves. 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:11.120 We cut themself. They were gonna play and we still 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:13.840 got games to go. But when they when it gets 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:17.320 to the end, whoever their best nine guys are ten 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:20.159 guys that'll be their best guys the other guys, like 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:23.120 Nate says, he named off four guys and then he went, 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:26.320 depend on depend on it. But you can't know, you can't. 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:29.000 But we'll we'll know. We'll we'll know if we can 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:32.680 depend on Dorance Armstrong by the end of this, you know, 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:35.439 we'll know if we could depend on Randy Gregory by 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:37.720 the end of this I believe, which is which is 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:44.119 why these these preseason games are not just a nebulous exercise. 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:47.560 They're important that I think they're important to this team's growth. 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:50.720 It's not like, Okay, let's throw them out there eight 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:53.159 plays and everybody's out and let's put the scrubs in. 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:58.040 This is the important discount more than an account we've 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:02.040 seen in the last five years, and y'all may have 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:04.840 seen something different than me, but this is our first 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:10.320 truly competitive camp in five years. I'm talking about offensive 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:13.920 line and defensive line. I'm talking about the power and 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:18.800 swiftness and athletic ability of our offensive line versus fast, 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:24.159 athletic defensive line. Price. You know, we hear his name. Woods, 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:27.679 We hear his name. We didn't hear that last year, right, 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:30.440 you know we hear guys, you know, and as good 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:32.480 as David ever it is to all of us and 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:36.000 how we feel about him. You know, maybe one or 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:39.480 two of these guys can as a unit replace David 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:42.800 Irvy as a unit. I'm talking about maybe Price, maybe 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:46.879 Woods as a unit, because what he does, he's a 0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:49.240 game changing David ivers a game change. So when you 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:52.639 lack that don't know how many teams have a game change. 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:55.400 It ain't many teams have game changes, like David Irvy. 0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:57.879 So now we gotta look who can give us this 0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:00.800 in a cluster? Do you feel any better about this 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:07.200 defensive line? Um? Then, compared to last years ago, three 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:09.240 weeks ago when you got on that airplane he came 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:11.560 and landed here. Did you feel better about that group 0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:13.760 now than you did when you we got on that 0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:16.480 airplane a little bit? In both spots, because, like you said, 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:19.280 Dayton Jones, I thought he played well the other night. Um. 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:22.720 And then it's specifically a defensive end. It's always nice 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:24.560 to have ninety four out there and looking like he's 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:28.200 making progress. But I'm with Nate, Dorence Armstrong looks like 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:30.280