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Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, September twenty ninth, twenty twenty, season sixteen,
Speaker 1: episode number thirty three. Welcome to another edition of The Break,
Speaker 1: Real Life from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the
Speaker 1: Star Guy Amber at the Star Days at his home,
Speaker 1: and we got a good forty five minutes of Cowboys
Speaker 1: to talk here with you guys to day. It's Tuesday,
Speaker 1: so it's Big Picture Day. And I had one whole
Speaker 1: set of things that we were going to talk about today,
Speaker 1: and then Jerry got on the radio and completely change that.
Speaker 1: So we got a lot of stuff that we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about here, at least in the first segment, maybe
Speaker 1: into the second segment that came from Jerry's interview this
Speaker 1: morning with our partner Station one or five out three
Speaker 1: the fan here locally, and then a little later in
Speaker 1: the show we're gonna follow up on some stuff we
Speaker 1: wanted to get to yesterday, some performance reviews, a couple
Speaker 1: of players that we didn't get a chance to talk
Speaker 1: about specifically that I want us to dive into a
Speaker 1: little bit, and then we'll get into the final segment.
Speaker 1: We'll get some fan questions from you guys. Hopefully you
Speaker 1: guys ask some questions or some comments about some different
Speaker 1: things around this team that I can then post to
Speaker 1: this group to be able to answer. So let's talk
Speaker 1: about Jerry. He's on the fan this morning, and there
Speaker 1: were a few things he talked about that I thought
Speaker 1: stood out. Let's start first with the one that's that's
Speaker 1: more tactical. He was talking about Lyle Collins and his injury,
Speaker 1: and he said, we don't know. I don't know, the
Speaker 1: doctors don't know. We're trying to work through some structure issues.
Speaker 1: So structure issues. The longer you go, the less optimistic
Speaker 1: you get, sounding more and more And we heard the
Speaker 1: same thing from from coach McCarthy yesterday, sounding more and
Speaker 1: more like surgery is an option here. What did you
Speaker 1: hear from from Jerry and what are you thinking right
Speaker 1: now with regards to where Lyle stands, We'll go with you, Dave.
Speaker 1: What I'm thinking is that I'm pretty worried about Lyle
Speaker 1: Collins's long term availability. How could you not be based
Speaker 1: on what you've been here in the last twenty four
Speaker 1: or so hours. I think it starts with yesterday, which
Speaker 1: I don't know if this counts, is behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: but you just kind of learn how to read between
Speaker 1: the lines once you've done this job for a long
Speaker 1: enough time. And Todd Archer from ESPN asks the question,
Speaker 1: is surgery something you're considering for Lyle Collins basically out
Speaker 1: of nowhere? Which Todd Archer's very good at his job,
Speaker 1: And when somebody who's very good at their job asks
Speaker 1: a question like that, it's probably because he's gotten an
Speaker 1: inkling from one direction or another that maybe that's something
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys are considering. And Mike McCarthy didn't shoot
Speaker 1: it down at all. He said it's something they have
Speaker 1: to weigh. Jerry Jones said the same thing. He actually,
Speaker 1: he said, we don't know. The doctors don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know. You know, we're playing it by year. The
Speaker 1: longer this goes, the less optimistic you get. So it's
Speaker 1: a hip problem. That's about as much as anybody's been
Speaker 1: willing to say. And I'm hoping for the best. But
Speaker 1: when you, you know, you piece all this stuff together,
Speaker 1: it certainly doesn't sound like Lyle Collins's return is imminent
Speaker 1: and if he does need to have surgery, then it'll
Speaker 1: probably be much later in the season, if at all.
Speaker 1: So um, I'm just kind of discouraged by the thought that,
Speaker 1: you know, he was so good last year and it
Speaker 1: might be a pretty hefty amount of time before we
Speaker 1: see him play again. Nick, how maik of a problem?
Speaker 1: Do you see this as if Lyle should have to
Speaker 1: have surgery and is out for a protected of a
Speaker 1: prolonged period of time for the offensive line, ye, like, well,
Speaker 1: for the team, you have to yeah, yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's a problem. But because of the fact that he
Speaker 1: hasn't been there and you know they if hiring can
Speaker 1: come back. Now, you just got one offensive lineman that
Speaker 1: you have or tackle that you have to you know,
Speaker 1: figure out. And I think you're seeing some options here.
Speaker 1: You know, it could be Zack Martin now you know,
Speaker 1: which means you need you still need a guard, or
Speaker 1: could be a Brandon Knight on the right side, or
Speaker 1: maybe Terrence Steele, whatever. But I feel better about it
Speaker 1: because you just like, you got to figure out one
Speaker 1: guy to try to replace it, and maybe that guy
Speaker 1: is Zach Martin, which means then you need a guard,
Speaker 1: you know, and maybe that's Looney or McGovern or maybe
Speaker 1: you go get one or whatever. But I'm just saying
Speaker 1: I feel better about it because you're you're forced to
Speaker 1: see these options and they've been okay, they haven't been great.
Speaker 1: But if it's Zack Martin and Tyren Smith is your tackles,
Speaker 1: I think you can figure out the insight. Amber you
Speaker 1: agree or do you think this is a bigger problem?
Speaker 1: It's a big problem, A problem, A problem. I was
Speaker 1: trying to specify bigger problem. I mean, obviously it's a
Speaker 1: big problem. But I think that the somewhat advantage kind
Speaker 1: of going back into something that Nick mentioned, was the
Speaker 1: fact that they've known this since the start of training camp,
Speaker 1: that they have issues with Lyle Collins' health, so they've
Speaker 1: been able to at least kind of somewhat prepare for it.
Speaker 1: What worries me, even though I think Dak Prescott has
Speaker 1: been doing a really, really good job, it worries me
Speaker 1: the fact that he has to deal with something like
Speaker 1: that throughout for the rest of the season. I mean,
Speaker 1: that is a lot of pressure that your quarterback is
Speaker 1: having to get and having to figure out. Also, if
Speaker 1: they're not able to improve and solidify the offensive line,
Speaker 1: I wonder how much it's going to start affecting Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Elliott's game. And we know how important it is for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys to utilize they can run the ball because
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I mean, most games
Speaker 1: they've wanted when Zeke has a good game. So it's
Speaker 1: it's tough for the Cowboys. But hopefully after what they
Speaker 1: were able to see from tape from last game, they're
Speaker 1: able to create a better combination to prepare for future
Speaker 1: games day. Do you know where this all came from?
Speaker 1: Because I don't know. It may just be me, but
Speaker 1: it seemed like coming into training camp, I had no
Speaker 1: idea that Lyle was dealing with anything, and obviously, win
Speaker 1: the offseason, you wouldn't think that you're doing things that
Speaker 1: create these kinds of issues. But do you know where
Speaker 1: this all came from and how they end up in
Speaker 1: this position where surgery is even a part of the conversation.
Speaker 1: It's a really, it's really frustrating. And the short answer
Speaker 1: is I don't, but I have a feeling that I
Speaker 1: would if I was able to wander around the facility
Speaker 1: and bump into trainers and coaches and orr. But whoever
Speaker 1: the heck else might have or or or I mean
Speaker 1: or honestly, Lyle, he really, I mean, obviously he went
Speaker 1: to LSU. He's a very nice guy. He is one
Speaker 1: of my closest connections on the team. Yeah, I could
Speaker 1: probably talk to him himself if I was able to
Speaker 1: go into the locker room. So it's frustrating, although I do,
Speaker 1: I do want to point out, you know, he comes,
Speaker 1: he comes to camp, he's out. Mike McCarthy downplays the
Speaker 1: heck out of it, which like, that's nothing new. Teams
Speaker 1: lie about this type of stuff all the time. But
Speaker 1: what makes it, what I guess what makes it frustrating
Speaker 1: is when you downplay it like that, then people take
Speaker 1: you at your word and all of a sudden, now
Speaker 1: it's you know, you assume it's not a big problem,
Speaker 1: so when it turns into a big problem, it always
Speaker 1: feels like the player gets the blame. I've seen a
Speaker 1: ton of people talking trash about Lyle Collins for being
Speaker 1: like out of shape, like like this is all happening
Speaker 1: because he came to camp out of shape, And let's
Speaker 1: be clear, he honestly could have. Lyle Collins might have
Speaker 1: come to camp out of shape, but you don't miss
Speaker 1: a month of the season and maybe need surgery as
Speaker 1: a pro athlete because you didn't take your conditioning seriously enough.
Speaker 1: That's ridiculous. If all Lyle Collins was was out of shape,
Speaker 1: you just play your way back in over time. I
Speaker 1: highly doubt you would even go on injured reserve. So
Speaker 1: it's just frustrating that. I understand that teams want to
Speaker 1: be careful with the details, but you create you know,
Speaker 1: when you don't give out information, people fill in the
Speaker 1: gaps on their own and it turns into a convoluted story,
Speaker 1: which just makes it frustrating. Yeah, real quick, Nick, what's
Speaker 1: the likelihood on Tymas Smith? You didn't mention him a
Speaker 1: little bit earlier. What are we hearing as far as
Speaker 1: his return and the likelihood that he may be ready
Speaker 1: this week? I would guess that he plays this week
Speaker 1: if I had to guess, I wasn't getting that feeling
Speaker 1: last week. Now I did see him warm up a
Speaker 1: little bit on the field, and you know, I think
Speaker 1: he could have played maybe right then. I mean, like
Speaker 1: if it's a playoff game. You know, That's what I
Speaker 1: heard twice was during you know, on Sunday, I heard
Speaker 1: it's a long season. So it's like, Okay, well, you
Speaker 1: don't want to foursome here in week three, but it's
Speaker 1: still a long season. But if you lose to the
Speaker 1: Browns and you're one in three, this could be a
Speaker 1: really long season. So I think, you know, at some
Speaker 1: point you gotta say, you know, you gotta get out
Speaker 1: there and play. And I can't imagine if he could
Speaker 1: have played two weeks ago, probably could have played last week,
Speaker 1: I would imagine he plays this week all right, Which,
Speaker 1: if Flyle's gonna be outward extended period of time, like
Speaker 1: you said earlier, I think it's even more important that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys can get tiring back because then you're just
Speaker 1: dealing with one tackle position rather than two. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: curious who plays right tackle though, like who plays I personally,
Speaker 1: I have actually thought that Brandon Knight played has played
Speaker 1: really well for what he's been given. Yeah, and so
Speaker 1: I would love to see him be the guy that
Speaker 1: they put over at right tackle and let's just see
Speaker 1: where it goes from there. And I think you've been
Speaker 1: better than Steele. Yeah, I mean it could be Steel
Speaker 1: if if you know, if he was just sick, if
Speaker 1: that's all it was, well, that's what they're saying. It
Speaker 1: didn't look like that to me. But obviously I'm not
Speaker 1: on the sideline, and I certainly wasn't there Saturday night
Speaker 1: where they say he wasn't when he started not feeling well. So, um,
Speaker 1: you know, ye who knows. I just think that you've
Speaker 1: got to figure out is Night or Steel a better
Speaker 1: option at at tackle or the guard that plays in
Speaker 1: there because you move, you know, Zach Martin out there.
Speaker 1: And here's another thing you have to wait is if
Speaker 1: I mean Zach Martin's a ninety nine player right ninety eight?
Speaker 1: Was Madden ratings like ninety nine? Okay, ninety nine? But
Speaker 1: is he at ninety nine at right tackle? Me look
Speaker 1: pretty good to me. He looked good to me too.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, but what if he's a you know,
Speaker 1: what if he's an eighty eight? What if he's okay? Yeah,
Speaker 1: are you what are you sacrificing there? Because you know, well,
Speaker 1: I think then what you have to figure out is
Speaker 1: is whoever would have been at right tackle? Are they
Speaker 1: a sixty? And is that guard that would have been moved?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, that's where you got
Speaker 1: to realize. I think right now you're looking for your
Speaker 1: five best and put your five best on the field. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I you know, I said almost said this yesterday. We
Speaker 1: don't have time. But Tony Rami used to always say
Speaker 1: to the right tackle, don't hold the guy because I
Speaker 1: can see him and I will make him miss. So
Speaker 1: if he's coming through, don't you don't have to hold him.
Speaker 1: I'll make sure he gets away from me. I mean,
Speaker 1: dak Is that's sort of the same way Amber asked yesterday,
Speaker 1: what's one position that you could maybe be okay with?
Speaker 1: I think it is right tackle because you see that
Speaker 1: guy coming if he gets free. All right, let's move
Speaker 1: on to another topic that Jerry hit. This one was
Speaker 1: a little small name your five best guys. Okay, she
Speaker 1: messes up your home outlook, you know, your whole outline.
Speaker 1: But it's okay. No, it's okay. That's great. That's actually
Speaker 1: a really great question. What we'll go around the table.
Speaker 1: I'll start your top five. No, no, no no, no, give
Speaker 1: your five. Don't just give one, It'll give you five.
Speaker 1: Give me your five. Five. Well, then Amber starts Amber,
Speaker 1: you're up. Oh, okay, you ask the question. It's true. True.
Speaker 1: I mean we keep talking about wanting to have the
Speaker 1: five guys on the field and shuffling around. Accordingly, I
Speaker 1: think that obviously, so like Martin, Joe Looney, Ullo, Connor Williams,
Speaker 1: he's still in the mix and there, I guess, regardless
Speaker 1: of the way he's been playing, which quite frankly, I
Speaker 1: expected him to be doing better this year. But then
Speaker 1: Brandon Knight, you have that. And honestly I did not
Speaker 1: hate what um oh my god, I forgot his name,
Speaker 1: Yaddish Beaddish. I did not hate what he did. I
Speaker 1: think that if they give him more practice there and
Speaker 1: I saw him get a lot of help from Joe
Speaker 1: Looney as far as being Joe Looney was still from
Speaker 1: what I saw in the game, he was still being
Speaker 1: the one who was communicating everything. So I think if
Speaker 1: there is a combination there of helping each other out,
Speaker 1: I would say, for me, I would like to see
Speaker 1: that combo again, right, Nick, I will say this be
Speaker 1: Idish was saying after the game that he was able
Speaker 1: to do the calls. I'm sure Looney helped a lot,
Speaker 1: you know, just with lining up and all that, but
Speaker 1: it is good. It is always important for the center
Speaker 1: to do that. So he was able to do that
Speaker 1: at least. Um. I think you forgot Tyrn Smith or
Speaker 1: or not. So I would play I think if playing
Speaker 1: this game, I would play tying it left. Um, I'd
Speaker 1: keep Connor in there left guard. I would start um
Speaker 1: be Idish and I would play Zach and then um Night.
Speaker 1: So you think Looney would be the guy that would
Speaker 1: be out for you. Yeah, he's a he's a three
Speaker 1: way back up. I mean, he's a guard, guard, center, backup.
Speaker 1: It's valuable to take, even though that's not as a
Speaker 1: big deal anymore, Dave, because you have to take eight
Speaker 1: linemen anyways to the game. So having all these versatile players,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's nice to have, but you know you
Speaker 1: can have at least eight. You have to have eight, Dave. Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think what the coaches would probably do
Speaker 1: is just plug Night or steal at right tackle and
Speaker 1: try to keep the continuity everywhere else. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy would probably trying to keep as many guys
Speaker 1: in place as possible, but if it doesn't look pretty,
Speaker 1: I definitely think Tyler Biadas should be in there. And
Speaker 1: then you have the choice of, you know, are you
Speaker 1: sending Looney to the bench or are you moving Looney
Speaker 1: to left guard for Connor Williams, Because I mean, if
Speaker 1: you had to identify the two problem spots, it's it's
Speaker 1: probably those two. I mean, you can talk about tackle
Speaker 1: all day, but we know why they're struggling, whereas you
Speaker 1: know Connor and Joe or the day one starters. So
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to pull the plug on it yet,
Speaker 1: but if they don't, if they do continue to struggle,
Speaker 1: I would put Beatish at center and then either Looney
Speaker 1: at left guard or um or excuse me, or keep
Speaker 1: Looney at center and move somebody else to left guard.
Speaker 1: Either way like the Connor and Joe or the two
Speaker 1: spots that give me problems. Yeah, I'm completely with you.
Speaker 1: I think the issues that I saw last week that
Speaker 1: obviously the tackles had a couple of plays here and there,
Speaker 1: but I was expecting that from them and I think
Speaker 1: they managed that relatively well. I'm a little more concerned
Speaker 1: about the left guard and the center position. So I
Speaker 1: would take Tiring, I would take Zach Martin, I would
Speaker 1: take Beyond as yet center. I would make Night my
Speaker 1: right tackle. And then, to be honest with you, you
Speaker 1: give me any one of the three Looney, Williams or
Speaker 1: McGovern at left guard, I would like to see them personally.
Speaker 1: Give McGovern a shot. Let's see what he can do,
Speaker 1: because I don't think those other two guys have necessarily
Speaker 1: done so great to where you're like, well, we can't
Speaker 1: can't get better there. So again, maybe they're seeing something
Speaker 1: else in practice where they're like, hey, McGovern's just not ready.
Speaker 1: He's not as good as these other guys, and maybe
Speaker 1: that is a big problem. But I you know, again,
Speaker 1: my two problem guys really have been Looney and Williams.
Speaker 1: I was expecting a lot more from those two quicks.
Speaker 1: We got a mail back question this point. I don't
Speaker 1: know how to Dave answered it, but it was like,
Speaker 1: why is mcgoverned getting any looks? And I was like, well,
Speaker 1: he's getting looks right and not for us, but but
Speaker 1: he's not doing anything with it, you know obviously in practice.
Speaker 1: So I mean it's not like so you'd rather have
Speaker 1: someone with zero experience and take Kyle, a veteran guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but if the veteran's not playing very well, the veteran
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter, you know. I mean the look at
Speaker 1: cam Irving. Cam Irving had experience, and they decided this year,
Speaker 1: going into the season, this was before he got hurt,
Speaker 1: they were like, we'd rather go with the guy has
Speaker 1: zero experience than put him out there. So, but I
Speaker 1: don't think experience is always necessarily the with the game.
Speaker 1: On the last important thing, he gave up a huge
Speaker 1: sack at the end of the game. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: cam Irving wood or would not have done that. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And my point is he might have.
Speaker 1: And so I think you're kind of trying to weigh
Speaker 1: is the experience gonna be beneficial if the guy really
Speaker 1: is not that good, you know, I mean, experience doesn't
Speaker 1: always mean that they're that they're better. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take our first break. When we come back,
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Speaker 1: It is a second segment of the Break Life from
Speaker 1: the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the start, we're talking
Speaker 1: about Jerry Jones and his comments this morning on one
Speaker 1: h five out three the fan here locally in Dallas.
Speaker 1: And let's move on to the second topic. This topic
Speaker 1: is one that I think everybody wants to talk about,
Speaker 1: which is a safety position. And he was asked about
Speaker 1: the safety position and asked specifically about Earl Thomas, and
Speaker 1: Jerry's response was, I think the fair question is do
Speaker 1: I want us to play better? And the answers yes,
Speaker 1: Do I see that we've got a path to getting
Speaker 1: better without doing something that is out of our control,
Speaker 1: which is acquiring a player? This is not necessarily in
Speaker 1: our control at all. The circumstances or the demands might
Speaker 1: be something that you don't want to do, all right,
Speaker 1: So here's the questions I have for you guys coming
Speaker 1: out of that first thing he mentioned was that the
Speaker 1: path for them getting better was with the guys that
Speaker 1: they have. You guys, agree or disagree with that comment.
Speaker 1: Let's start first with you, Dave. I think I already
Speaker 1: said yesterday I don't agree, so so no, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, and you know, Jerry, honestly, I think the
Speaker 1: first five questions of his interview today were about the DBS.
Speaker 1: I mean he you know, people are always saying to
Speaker 1: hold people accountable. I mean he got hammered about it
Speaker 1: for ten to twelve solid minutes, whether it's about signing
Speaker 1: somebody like Earl Thomas or why do you think the
Speaker 1: DBS can get better? He talked a lot about you know,
Speaker 1: basically said like, given more time, these guys can pick
Speaker 1: up the scheme better and use their instincts to be
Speaker 1: in better position. And I guess my rebuttal to that
Speaker 1: is what's your margin for error? I mean, because you're
Speaker 1: you're one and two, and you know the Browns aren't
Speaker 1: the best team in the NFL, but they're definitely talented.
Speaker 1: Like this is, this isn't gonna be easy. I know
Speaker 1: that the schedule lets up a little bit here with
Speaker 1: you know, New York and Washington and maybe even Philly
Speaker 1: on the horizon, but the Browns aren't part of that.
Speaker 1: So what you could be at one and three if
Speaker 1: you have two or three more coverage busts? And I
Speaker 1: just I just wonder what the margin for error is?
Speaker 1: That's my line of thinking. Amber. Um Well, I keep
Speaker 1: thinking that I need to stop stressing out about this
Speaker 1: whole subject because if they're not stressing out, why should
Speaker 1: I be stressing out about it? So there's that. As
Speaker 1: far as Jerry's comments go, I think that one thing
Speaker 1: that we always hear them say is if they want
Speaker 1: a play or if they want someone, they're gonna get it.
Speaker 1: So I really don't know what goes on behind doors
Speaker 1: and what's really happening as to why they they really
Speaker 1: aren't talking about bringing in a guy for help. But
Speaker 1: as far as the group of guys that they currently have,
Speaker 1: I see it being really tough to make drastic changes
Speaker 1: changes as far as drastic improvement in the middle of
Speaker 1: the season. I remember when I did the whole documentary
Speaker 1: on Connor Williams and I was talking about him, and
Speaker 1: then way they went through the whole coaching the position
Speaker 1: coach what was his name forgot that got fired and
Speaker 1: they changed the online coach Colombo yep, yeah, Paul Alexander,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. Well, when I'm talking to Connor Williams about
Speaker 1: that period, I remember him talking about how difficult it
Speaker 1: is to change and make drastic improvement in the middle
Speaker 1: of the season. So how much change can you actually
Speaker 1: see when these guys are having to prepare week by
Speaker 1: week for the next oppintent. How much are these guys
Speaker 1: able to personally each guys get the help that they
Speaker 1: specifically need as far as improving their game on the
Speaker 1: field and all that communication. So I just don't see
Speaker 1: it changing in a short term. I think it's going
Speaker 1: to take a longer period for us to see something
Speaker 1: good enough for us to say, Okay, they really are
Speaker 1: making this happen. Ye, Nick, I kind of forgot what
Speaker 1: the what is your questioning? Should you do you agree
Speaker 1: or disagree that that they can actually just get better
Speaker 1: with the guys that they have without having to bring
Speaker 1: someone else in. No, I don't. I don't know if
Speaker 1: they're going to get better at safety that means that
Speaker 1: the pass rush is going to get better to help them.
Speaker 1: I just don't think those guys are going to just
Speaker 1: magically get better. But I will say the second question
Speaker 1: he asked about he answered about Old Thomas. I think
Speaker 1: it's interesting as well, because he says there are ways
Speaker 1: you can get better. There are prices you pay to
Speaker 1: get to an acquire talent, there are progress stoppers if
Speaker 1: you have a different plan. So it almost sounds like
Speaker 1: he's calling Earl Thomas or one of those veterans a
Speaker 1: progress stopper, but I mean, whose progress are stopping? Donovan Wilson.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't understand whose progress for stopping. But
Speaker 1: I think Amber said it right. If they wanted Earl Timents,
Speaker 1: they would have gotten him. They don't. They don't want him.
Speaker 1: They've they've looked into it, they know it, and the
Speaker 1: player you see with the All Pros and the Pro
Speaker 1: Bowls and all that stuff, they don't think he's that player.
Speaker 1: And again, like I said before, I don't believe that
Speaker 1: they think he is healthy, so they don't want him.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question. Do you guys think
Speaker 1: that at other times in their career, Let's go back
Speaker 1: to last season, that Darian Thompson and Xavier Woods played
Speaker 1: better than they're playing right now. I guess. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just just we didn't see him, these guys just
Speaker 1: running through them like that. I mean, we just didn't
Speaker 1: see the I mean, it's also I guess, a different
Speaker 1: a different scheme. And that's that's kind of the reason
Speaker 1: why I'm asking the question. Is if we think that
Speaker 1: they've been better in their career here than what we're
Speaker 1: seeing right now, it does maybe suggest that maybe there's
Speaker 1: an issue here with communication, with scheme, with them figuring
Speaker 1: out their role in certain situations. Maybe again, one thing
Speaker 1: that we know kind of as a big picture thing
Speaker 1: is the story on the defense that they ran last
Speaker 1: year was that it's a much more simplified defense. They
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, kind of played this a pretty
Speaker 1: simple scheme. This year, the idea is that it's not
Speaker 1: as simple as scheme. If that's all true, then maybe
Speaker 1: there is some credence to the fact that that these
Speaker 1: guys aren't playing up to their best because they're not
Speaker 1: as prepared or and I want to don't want to
Speaker 1: say it like that, because that makes it seem like
Speaker 1: they're not working hard. They're just not communicating and doing
Speaker 1: their jobs as well because they are having issues kind
Speaker 1: of fitting into this game and understanding what their roles
Speaker 1: are on each and every play. Can you guys buy
Speaker 1: into that at all? Couple thoughts One one, Yes, I do,
Speaker 1: like I understand given all of the circumstances, they probably
Speaker 1: just don't have it completely nailed down to where this
Speaker 1: scheme is. Muscle memory Number one. Yes, I think Xavier
Speaker 1: Woods has played better at times during his career than
Speaker 1: he is right now. Darian Thompson. I don't think there
Speaker 1: was ever a large enough sample size to know how
Speaker 1: good he was. I think, you know, he spots started
Speaker 1: three times because of injuries last year. I don't remember
Speaker 1: him being awful. I don't remember him being great. The
Speaker 1: other thing, they had an all pro cornerback who they
Speaker 1: didn't have to worry about his side of the field
Speaker 1: nearly as often as they probably do now with Treyvon
Speaker 1: Diggs a rookie and a grab bag of journeyman veterans
Speaker 1: trying to handle the rest of it. So he might
Speaker 1: not get interceptions. But I think Byron Jones probably made
Speaker 1: these guys lives easier in the past, and that's not
Speaker 1: something you can forget about either. It does feel like
Speaker 1: to me, though they're putting they're kind of leaving Digs
Speaker 1: out there on an island quite a bit, like there
Speaker 1: have been times we've seen him over these last two
Speaker 1: weeks especially, well, they've left him out there with some
Speaker 1: really good receivers and he didn't have help. He was
Speaker 1: out there just kind of having to figure it out.
Speaker 1: So I don't know that they necessarily are too worried
Speaker 1: about throwing him out there. They seem to be very
Speaker 1: comfortable with throwing him out there in the same way
Speaker 1: they did with Bob, results not yielding the same results. No,
Speaker 1: I no, I get that. But your point, at your
Speaker 1: point was that the safety didn't have as much to
Speaker 1: worry about. Well, it doesn't seem like they're worrying about
Speaker 1: that too much either, because they're still leaving Digs on
Speaker 1: an island at at least a part of the game.
Speaker 1: He We're seeing him out there by himself and not
Speaker 1: really having that safety help. Yeah, I just think, you know,
Speaker 1: I think that the cornerback position is affecting safety. I
Speaker 1: really believe that. But I also think that, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe this coaching staff, with how good they are, how
Speaker 1: good they've been as far as you know, veteran coaches
Speaker 1: that have been there, as some of these guys have
Speaker 1: been head coaches, I think they came in here and
Speaker 1: they thought, you know, they'd have a plan and everything
Speaker 1: would be great. But there's a reason why they have
Speaker 1: all these OTAs in the mini camps and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: In the version, there's no way of virtual meeting, you know,
Speaker 1: it is the same as just being in here, just
Speaker 1: like a virtual you know, podcast isn't the same when
Speaker 1: everyone's in here, and so that has to be factor in.
Speaker 1: I mean, I I don't know. I have to go look.
Speaker 1: Is there is there a new coaching staff out there,
Speaker 1: first year coach that is they're doing, that's doing really
Speaker 1: well this year. I don't know. There might be, but
Speaker 1: I just think the continuity of staffs and schemes and
Speaker 1: systems is probably helping teams through this you know, weird time.
Speaker 1: And that's not an excuse, it's just reality. It's you.
Speaker 1: You're implementing a new scheme. Yeah, there's gonna be more
Speaker 1: bust than their word before. Yeah, all right, we're gonna
Speaker 1: take our final break. When we come back, I want
Speaker 1: to jump into some of the performance reviews or a
Speaker 1: couple of guys I want to point out from this weekend.
Speaker 1: Get your opinions on how you think they played and why.
Speaker 1: Have a couple of questions for you guys on those topics.
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Speaker 1: Let's do some performance reviews. We're gonna talk about a
Speaker 1: few players from Sunday's game and some of the things
Speaker 1: that they did. And I have some questions for you
Speaker 1: on those guys. We did talk about Dak yesterday obviously
Speaker 1: and what he was able to do in that game.
Speaker 1: He was thirty five or fifty seven, sixty five percent
Speaker 1: completion rate, four hundred and seventy two passing yards, three touchdowns,
Speaker 1: two interceptions, a ninety three point six passer rating by
Speaker 1: all accounts, really really great day. He gets tons of
Speaker 1: credit obviously for out playing, outstanding outstandingly throughout the game.
Speaker 1: How much blame do you guys to him for coming
Speaker 1: up short in that final play Let's start with you,
Speaker 1: nick Um, the final play of the final drive, not
Speaker 1: being able to actually get his team across the finish
Speaker 1: line to finish that game. I mean, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: he's on him. I mean he's he's he's the quarterback.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's the one that, uh, you know, he
Speaker 1: gets the loss. You know, so that's that's the way
Speaker 1: that it goes. I think he you know, I think
Speaker 1: he played well throughout the game. I mean, given the circumstances,
Speaker 1: I think he played really well. But you know, as
Speaker 1: I've said before, I just think they're trying. He's they're
Speaker 1: putting too much on him. He doesn't need to be
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a quarterback that should be throwing
Speaker 1: at fifty seven times. I mean, I don't know if
Speaker 1: any quarterback really is, but I don't think that's really
Speaker 1: his game. Um, and if being really honest, I mean,
Speaker 1: as great as he's playing that, Seattle's Seattle is letting
Speaker 1: him do it. I mean it's very clear they don't.
Speaker 1: They'll let Dak, you know, get his yards and get
Speaker 1: all that. At the end of the day, they're gonna
Speaker 1: make him one dimensional as long as they stop Zeke.
Speaker 1: That was their focus. They stopped Zeke and they were
Speaker 1: able to win. So, um, you know, Dak's still gonna
Speaker 1: get his money and all this stuff. But I mean
Speaker 1: there are teams out there that are saying, we'll let
Speaker 1: Dak beat this. We're not gonna let Zeke be this amber.
Speaker 1: How much blame do you give Dak Um. I know
Speaker 1: there are a lot of people blaming him a lot,
Speaker 1: but me personally, I think he's been he's been playing well,
Speaker 1: and you don't play football is not a solo game.
Speaker 1: You need a whole team to play football. So he's
Speaker 1: just he's not the only one out there. I just
Speaker 1: the way I see it, I don't think this should
Speaker 1: have gotten to those last six seconds of the game
Speaker 1: and for him to make that throw and miss and
Speaker 1: get it intercepted. Yes, he made mistakes, but at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, it is a collective effort from everyone,
Speaker 1: and he's been doing his part. I think, so everyone
Speaker 1: else just needs to step it up as well and
Speaker 1: give him some help. He's carrying a lot of weight
Speaker 1: I think this year, Dave. I just, I mean, all right,
Speaker 1: let's start with what the question actually was. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously you prefer he makes that much on him for
Speaker 1: trying to pull something out of nothing. Twenty nine of
Speaker 1: thirty two quarterbacks in this league gets sacked on that
Speaker 1: play and the game ends. Dak was he was trying
Speaker 1: to make something out of nothing. Yeah, he probably could
Speaker 1: have scrambled, gotten some yards and gotten out of bounds.
Speaker 1: He probably could have thrown it away. But I've never
Speaker 1: played quarterback at any kind of level, let alone the NFL.
Speaker 1: You're probably more focused with looking downfield to see if
Speaker 1: you have a throw than looking at the clock to
Speaker 1: see just how much time you have. So I don't
Speaker 1: blame him there. The interception before halftime was a backbreaker,
Speaker 1: especially because he had a Mari, he had the throw
Speaker 1: he just waited too long. And not only does that
Speaker 1: give Seattle a chance to score right before halftime time,
Speaker 1: but it just it kills your ability to score about
Speaker 1: four halftime and it takes away the impact of being
Speaker 1: able to try to score on the first drive of
Speaker 1: the third quarter. I thought, like, you can't screw that
Speaker 1: throw up and you're gonna throw picks. Absolutely, but that
Speaker 1: was just it was horrendous timing on Dak's part. As
Speaker 1: for everything else, I loved it because I've seen I've
Speaker 1: seen the Cowboys stubbornly try to run Zeke into a
Speaker 1: brick wall when the pass is working. It was the
Speaker 1: Vikings game last year. Coaching staff was obsessed with trying
Speaker 1: to put the game in Zeke's hands and that didn't
Speaker 1: work either, even though Dak was throwing the ball all
Speaker 1: over the field. So if you're gonna pay a quarterback
Speaker 1: that kind of money, he has to be able to
Speaker 1: put the team on his back in that situation, and
Speaker 1: that's what Dak did. I think they get run out
Speaker 1: of that building on Sunday if Dak doesn't throw for
Speaker 1: three hundred yards in the second half and basically say
Speaker 1: all right, the running game's not working. I got this
Speaker 1: and it didn't work out. That doesn't mean Dak played poorly.
Speaker 1: I thought. I thought he was great. And I hope
Speaker 1: the coaching staff keeps that same because they're probably gonna
Speaker 1: need it, because I do agree on Nick with one thing,
Speaker 1: which is that opponents are still going to commit to
Speaker 1: stopping Zeke because if you don't, then you just make
Speaker 1: it even easier. So Dak's probably gonna have to do
Speaker 1: that a few more times, and I hope the coaching
Speaker 1: staff is receptive to letting him do it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would just go back to that drive to reiterate what
Speaker 1: you're saying, Dave. I'd go back to that drive. I
Speaker 1: can't remember what the score was, but it was at
Speaker 1: the point in the game. I remember I said to
Speaker 1: you guys, I was like, this must be the end,
Speaker 1: because I don't think they're coming back on a Seattle
Speaker 1: team like they did at Atlanta. And Cowboys get the
Speaker 1: ball and literally in three plays, bop bop, touchdown, and
Speaker 1: that's where I was like, Okay, this is a little
Speaker 1: different offense. This offense has the ability to quick strike you,
Speaker 1: and they can get back into games really quickly and
Speaker 1: score points really quickly. So I think that's all about Dack.
Speaker 1: You know where I think Dack and the offense can
Speaker 1: be better. And if you look at some of the
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks that they have success is I think I
Speaker 1: have to go look at the stats, but I just
Speaker 1: don't see a lot of one yard touchdown passes, two
Speaker 1: yard touchdown passes. I mean, I know they have Zeke,
Speaker 1: they try to they go jumbo tight ends and antswan
Speaker 1: woods and all that, but I mean you look at
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson throwing touchdowns to Tyler Lockett for one yard,
Speaker 1: I mean still being able to spread out your offense
Speaker 1: and trusting the quarterback to make those plays and all that.
Speaker 1: I think if the Cowboys got a little bit more
Speaker 1: dynamic in that play calling, where play actions and things
Speaker 1: like that that are open and throw the ball a
Speaker 1: little bit more, then it would open up runs even more.
Speaker 1: I don't know why they commit so much to the
Speaker 1: jumbo packages and all that. Are you talking about justin
Speaker 1: red zone, situational line and red zone I think that
Speaker 1: you know, you see other quarterbacks throw it more. Now
Speaker 1: Dak also runs runs it more, so that that's a
Speaker 1: weapon that they don't have. But I think if they
Speaker 1: tried a little bit more passing and just run base
Speaker 1: offense out of the one or two yard line, I
Speaker 1: still think it would have opened up things for Zeke.
Speaker 1: And I think it would open I mean the receivers,
Speaker 1: you still have better matchups out there. But do you
Speaker 1: think that's been a problem area for them running or
Speaker 1: getting in the end zone when they're around the one
Speaker 1: or two yard line. I mean, I think I think
Speaker 1: red zone probably red zone issues have been Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think I think they do have problems that running And
Speaker 1: because they tried to go they think that because te
Speaker 1: is next to your name, that means you're a good blocker,
Speaker 1: and that's not the case. That's not the case. That
Speaker 1: they go these jumbo tight ends and jumbo packages strength
Speaker 1: on strength, and that doesn't work. And so it took
Speaker 1: every inch they could just get the ball in the
Speaker 1: other day Sunday, Okay, let's move walk to the next one.
Speaker 1: We were talking about Zeke. He had fourteen carries for
Speaker 1: thirty four yards two point four average, not great for him,
Speaker 1: one touchdown, but he had six receptions and here's the
Speaker 1: interesting party had twelve targets for twenty four yards. Cowboys
Speaker 1: were very clearly they thought they saw something coming into
Speaker 1: the game where they thought they could take advantage of
Speaker 1: the Seahawks defense with screens and that kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: and quite frankly, it just did not work. Seattle bottled
Speaker 1: it up the whole day. What do you think was
Speaker 1: going wrong there? Was that an issue of that deep
Speaker 1: It is just really really good. Do you think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are having a hard time blocking it up? What
Speaker 1: do you think went wrong there? Let's start first with you,
Speaker 1: Dave defense. Credit the defense if you want to. I
Speaker 1: think the cow or the Seahawks have one of the smartest, best,
Speaker 1: most experienced linebacker cores in the NFL, and that's that's
Speaker 1: who stopped screens more often than not. Throw Jamal Adams
Speaker 1: in there before he got hurt, and you've got three
Speaker 1: guys who are really great at diagnosing that and getting
Speaker 1: guys on the ground. Bobby Wagner, kJ right, Jamal Adams.
Speaker 1: So maybe they saw something montap but Seattle self scouted
Speaker 1: and figured it out because that wasn't happening. And then
Speaker 1: the one time they really did draw it up the
Speaker 1: right way, Zeke dropped it. You know, Zeke dropped one.
Speaker 1: I don't remember right now when it was, but he
Speaker 1: had open field in front of him, it's at least twelve,
Speaker 1: if not twenty or more yards and just dropped it.
Speaker 1: I think PFF gave him three drops on the day.
Speaker 1: It could be as many as five. It's just a
Speaker 1: brutal day for Ezekiel La. And one complaint for the
Speaker 1: coaching staff is they were still trying that stuff deep
Speaker 1: into the game, and I'm like, come on, guys, you
Speaker 1: got favorable matchups on the outside all day. Enough with
Speaker 1: this stuff. All right, we're gonna I want to get
Speaker 1: to a couple other players. We're gonna jump to the
Speaker 1: next player, Amber. I want to ask you about Sergric Wilson,
Speaker 1: who was five or seven targets. He had five perceptions,
Speaker 1: seven targets, one hundred and seven yards, two touchdowns. And
Speaker 1: I told David as we were watching the game, it
Speaker 1: was nice to see a guy that we talked about
Speaker 1: glowingly during training camp actually show up, because usually when
Speaker 1: you talk about a guy during training CAVI, it seems like,
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, regular season gets here and you don't
Speaker 1: hear from him again. But he showed up and showed
Speaker 1: up in a really, really big way, I did notice
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys were using a lot more ten personnel
Speaker 1: in this game than they had been in previous weeks,
Speaker 1: which is one running back, no tight ends, four wide receivers. Amber.
Speaker 1: My question is for you, do you want to see
Speaker 1: more of that? And maybe you know, take Scholts off
Speaker 1: the field, which, by the way, this is no slide
Speaker 1: on Sholtz. I think he's been as good as they
Speaker 1: could have expected when they lost Lake Darwin. But do
Speaker 1: you want to see more of this ten person now?
Speaker 1: Were you getting four wide receivers involved? I don't know
Speaker 1: why you're asking me that question, because I think you
Speaker 1: know my answer. I am not. I mean to be
Speaker 1: fair credit to Schultz. He did a nice job, but
Speaker 1: but I am still not fully convinced. So yes, when
Speaker 1: they get a chance to do that, go for it.
Speaker 1: I am not in love with the tight end position
Speaker 1: right now, so I'm all love for it. And Cedric
Speaker 1: Wilson completely impressed me. It wasn't necessarily a surprise because
Speaker 1: we've seen what he has and the talent that he has,
Speaker 1: but it was a surprise to see him play as
Speaker 1: much as he did and be able to perform the
Speaker 1: way that he did. As far as taking an advantage
Speaker 1: of those opportunities, because sometimes we get very used to
Speaker 1: seeing just you know, Michael Gallup, Amari Cooper and now
Speaker 1: see the lamp. So the fact that that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: were able to provide him more opportunities even after he
Speaker 1: made the two thumbs up for that, go for it,
Speaker 1: all right, Nick, We'll go to the final question with you.
Speaker 1: Aldon Smith had four tackles, three sacks, four quarterback hits,
Speaker 1: one pass defense. Obviously, right now he's leading the NFL
Speaker 1: in sacks, but I think the Cowboys are getting far
Speaker 1: more production than they even could have imagined when they
Speaker 1: made the signing from a guy that hadn't played in
Speaker 1: five years. That all being said, I'm gonna take you
Speaker 1: to the other side. How concerned are you that Griffin
Speaker 1: and Lawrence together combined only had three tackles and one
Speaker 1: quarterback hit during next Yeah, it's concerning because the way
Speaker 1: they tried to play that game. That's why you have
Speaker 1: to play it with Russell Wilson, is that you have
Speaker 1: those four guys have to get home and they really
Speaker 1: weren't at all. And you know that that's something I
Speaker 1: don't think the secondary we're talking about a lot with
Speaker 1: the secondary is you don't how many times in that
Speaker 1: game they were covering for four or five six seconds.
Speaker 1: I mean that I think is the biggest issue. And
Speaker 1: so and some of those sacks were actually coverage. Se
Speaker 1: the guys on the back end, we're doing a better jobs,
Speaker 1: I think. You know, d Laws is, Uh, he's banged
Speaker 1: up because he didn't even finish the game. Um, that's
Speaker 1: what McCarthy said that yesterday. Griffin still, you know, he
Speaker 1: said it himself. I mean he's trying to work himself
Speaker 1: back into shape. I mean or not shape, but I
Speaker 1: mean work himself, you know. And with the new scheme
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. It's still early in the season,
Speaker 1: but you know, you can we can say that all
Speaker 1: day about how early it is. But but the games
Speaker 1: are counting on the standings, I mean they counts. What
Speaker 1: do you think is the issue there, Dave and Amber?
Speaker 1: I love you guys, jump in here. What do you
Speaker 1: think is the biggest issue with regards to the Cowboys
Speaker 1: pass rush? Right now? I'll start with you, Dave, Geezum,
Speaker 1: the biggest issue with the Cowboys pass rush? Is it
Speaker 1: a hot take to say that, Like, I don't think
Speaker 1: that they were terrible on Sunday, Like, am I stupid
Speaker 1: for saying that? Well? Alton Smith, obviously, I mean very
Speaker 1: very well, but I guess let's let me let me
Speaker 1: limit that down. Do you think you're getting enough pass
Speaker 1: rush productivity from guys like Tank and Griffin? And if not,
Speaker 1: why clearly not? I mean, obviously I do, like I think,
Speaker 1: especially if he's dealing with a knee injury. I thought
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence, and I guess, let me stop myself because
Speaker 1: he's on a twenty million dollars salary, so you can
Speaker 1: always ask for more. But this was the best of
Speaker 1: his three games. I thought he was active, thought he
Speaker 1: was disruptive. He helped Alvin Smith on a couple of
Speaker 1: those sacks. Obviously you want more. The guy doesn't have
Speaker 1: a sack through three games. But I was encouraged. And again,
Speaker 1: you know, the unique mobility of this quarterback makes it
Speaker 1: even tougher to gauge of pass rush in Everson. You know,
Speaker 1: Everson Griffin laid it out pretty eloquently. It's always cool
Speaker 1: when NFL players actually speak about it as you know,
Speaker 1: well he did. It was week two. Now it's week
Speaker 1: three of a new season, and a new scheme without
Speaker 1: having a real training camp. It's it's an excuse and
Speaker 1: like said, like the games counting the standings, but I
Speaker 1: do believe that. I think it was Also it was
Speaker 1: Gerald McCoy love having him on Twitter too. He basically said,
Speaker 1: you're not going to see the team that it will
Speaker 1: eventually become until about week five. Like week five is
Speaker 1: when it sort of comes together into the product that
Speaker 1: you're going to see pushing into November and December. And
Speaker 1: that's during a regular NFL season, let alone this one.
Speaker 1: So I do buy it. I do buy it. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, I don't blame anybody for not
Speaker 1: wanting to hear it. Because the games count. It doesn't
Speaker 1: matter that you didn't have a training camp. What do
Speaker 1: you think, Abra? I agree, But I mean you're about
Speaker 1: to head into week four, so at one point that
Speaker 1: has to stop being the excuse as far as like, oh,
Speaker 1: you didn't have a training camp together. It takes time
Speaker 1: to build the whole dynamic between the lines, so at
Speaker 1: one point you get to get past that. I do
Speaker 1: agree with Dave in the fact that I think they
Speaker 1: did play better this past weekend, just in the you
Speaker 1: were able to see Russell Wilson not have complete comfort.
Speaker 1: He did get some pressure, so there was some disruption there.
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily at the level that we all expected
Speaker 1: to see it. And thank god they do have Alderman Smith,
Speaker 1: which I don't think anyone really I mean, we thought
Speaker 1: he was gonna be a good player, but I don't
Speaker 1: think we thought that he was going to have such
Speaker 1: a great impact as he's had so far. So what
Speaker 1: exactly is the problem or the solution here? I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but I don't really have an answer. I don't really
Speaker 1: know what the what the real problem is there? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I guess if anybody did, they'd probably figure it
Speaker 1: out and they would get it corrected. This is one
Speaker 1: of those things where I think Day's answer is probably
Speaker 1: the best I've heard so far, as that you know,
Speaker 1: it's just might take some time, and if they're still
Speaker 1: doing these things and this is the production when you
Speaker 1: get to mid season, then guess what, this is what
Speaker 1: you probably can't rely on for the rest of the year, right,
Speaker 1: and that it's just a weird year. It's just a
Speaker 1: weird year. What about Randy Gregory, I mean, what if
Speaker 1: he comes back the way Aldon Smith came back. Well.
Speaker 1: The difference is when Alden Smith left, Aldon Smith was
Speaker 1: probably one of the best, if not the best, pass
Speaker 1: rusher in the NFL. I don't think Gregory ever got
Speaker 1: there before he left. So he's coming back on a
Speaker 1: little different trajector. He comes back as a guy that
Speaker 1: can get six sacks, you know, like he did last
Speaker 1: when he was when he left him he was a
Speaker 1: productive player. He was he was a you know, a
Speaker 1: penalty problem at times. So we'll see if good penalties.
Speaker 1: We don't need any more of that. Sure, we get
Speaker 1: plenty of those right now. All right, we appreciate you guys.
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