WEBVTT - JUSTIN RICHBURG - Cup of Doodles 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.320 Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke. 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:05.720 I'm your host Coley Witt, and today we are out 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:08.000 of the studio in New York and I got a 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:11.400 nice little treat for us. We have special guests Justin 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:13.440 Richberg in the building. 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:17.279 Yeah, and how do I say? I want to mess 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:20.640 it up again? And animator animator. 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:24.840 Animator, illustrator, writer loud mouth, I'll snitch. 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:28.680 I love it, I love it all. I've been tracking 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:32.000 Justin for some years. I was in his d MS 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:36.960 almost immediately, like all the time are you following, commenting, 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:39.800 trying to get an interview with you for a long time. 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:43.360 I think everything you do is pretty impressive and amazing, 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:46.000 Like literally looks like a gift from God. 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:47.760 Himself gave it to you. 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:52.720 So finally, what it took two years, two years a 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:56.800 cool manager to make this happen. You came in from Philly, 0:00:56.840 --> 0:01:00.120 Thank you so much, and I was like, what you're 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:02.320 gonna have us eating today? 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:05.760 You chose basic disc go ahead, tell everybody. 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:08.600 Yeah, so we want to have take these glasses off, 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:13.320 thank you. Mm hmmm, so we want to have a 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:14.560 cup of noodles. 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:16.319 A couple of noodles. You guys were specific. You was 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:17.959 like Nissan Nissan. 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:20.960 Because listen, like you see the bonnet on. I came 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:22.840 in like we're gonna keep it straight hood today, you 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:23.480 know what I'm saying. 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:50.520 Okay, hood Megan, Okay, so let's pour some water in 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:53.960 this uh, this Nissan. I I literally was going around 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:55.559 the store like does it say that brand? 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:55.880 Does? 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:58.600 Is there a reason? A rhyme to the reason? 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:03.040 Yeah, because like okay, you know, it means a lot 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:06.520 to me because like you know, I spend up like 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:09.400 late nights like doing my work and things like that. 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:12.480 You know, it's like one of the things like it's 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:16.560 always like there. You know what I'm saying, And it 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:17.799 means a lot. You know what I'm saying when you're 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:20.160 coming up and like you don't really got much you. 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:24.399 Know that water that would be good. 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:27.200 So when you eat your noodles, do you like them 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:31.799 super soggy or kind of like noodley like hard? 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:35.440 I keep them like super soggy, you know what I'm saying. 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:37.600 Then after a while, I like to pour out the 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:41.760 water and like not all of it, and then you 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:43.720 know I like to dump some hot sauce in that john. 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:45.040 You know what I'm saying, I go crazy with the 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:46.240 hot sauce sometimes, Like. 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:50.160 You didn't say that, you know the way you. 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:52.959 Know, it's one of the things. 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:57.520 Saying okay, okay, So take me back to what was 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:00.200 going on in the well what air, because I know 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:02.480 everyone still eats this right every once in a while. 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:04.520 You probably have a late ninety eat this right. 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:08.360 Yeah, And so take me back to the beginning era 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:11.600 of you with the noodles, where it was a necessity. 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:14.680 I will say. 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:19.960 Where I start, I'd say like two thousand and fourteen, 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:24.560 cause you know I previously talked about like dealing with 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:28.480 like mental health issues, and when I started to get 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:30.960 my like my mind back, you know, I ended up 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:33.079 having like developed mental health issues, like straight out of 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:37.040 high school, and it got kind of severely worse around 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:39.560 like nineteen and then you know, like I was out 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:41.760 of it, like real bad. Like you know when you 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:43.960 see like those people walking around aimlessly in the streets. 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.080 I was like one of those people. But you know, 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:48.400 my mom so happened like to catch it early because 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:50.920 mental illness runs in my dad's side of the family. 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.680 When you say mental illness or can you are you 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:55.160 comfortable saying like what kind. 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:58.560 Because yeah, bipost cause friend I was you, I was 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:02.800 diagnosed by post gets a friend. You know, my mom 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:05.320 found me home one day and she ended up like 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:07.520 three or two in me, like to help me out. Luckily, 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.360 she really caught it early because the same thing happened 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:13.160 with one of my cousins on my dad's side, but 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:15.960 she was fourteen, but her mom didn't pay attention to it. 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.760 And now like to this day, she's like fifty something 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:21.960 years old, and you know she needs people to take 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:23.480 care of her. That could easily have been me, and 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:26.599 my mom didn't catch it early. You know, I like, 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:28.200 I give all grace. 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:28.640 To my mom. 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:33.200 But schizophrenia, I thought that it comes later. No, for 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:36.080 some reason, I thought it comes like at like around 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:37.400 like early. 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:39.599 I think what I think? What does? 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:43.160 Like it comes from stress and not talking. You know 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:45.560 what I'm saying because like my stepfather, he had died 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:48.160 when I was ten years old, and you know, it's 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:49.680 like I used to be like a bubbly purse, a 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:52.160 little bubbly kid and things like that, and then you 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:54.360 know it's like I just became like super mildtone and 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:55.560 stopped caring about life. 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:57.720 So it's like a ten year old. 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:00.000 Yeah, I gave up on life at like ten year 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.240 years old, but you know, he was my everything. And 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.800 then like the way he passed, you know, and I 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:08.239 didn't get a chance to see him like get buried. 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:12.040 So just like all that time, and they know, it's 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:13.960 like as you're not yourself no more, so you allow 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:18.120 people to bully you and things like that. And you know, 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:21.160 but through that whole time, I was drawing. That's all 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.359 I cared about, you know what I'm saying, Like it 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:26.520 got like really bad. Like as soon as like seventh 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.360 grade came around, they put me like in the LD classes. 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:33.760 So I was in there from like all learn disability. Yeah, 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.320 so they put they put they put you, they put 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:37.760 you in they put me in there. But the only 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:39.160 thing I kept on doing was just drawing. That was 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:41.680 a thing that was like keeping me like going. But 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.000 you know, but I wasn't talking to nobody. My mom 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:45.960 tried to get me talk to therapists and things like that, 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:48.840 but it wasn't working. And then you know, all that 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:52.200 like accumulated and then boom just blowed at that point 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:53.960 and then. 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:55.800 Uh, and what was everyone saying about your drawings at 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.760 the time? Where they were they as great as they were. 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.000 You know, it's like you know people say like, oh 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.599 that's cool, Oh draw me. No, people wasn't like really 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:08.400 like you know, thinking like too much about it because 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:10.120 you know, everybody draws, because it's not like one of 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:11.960 those things that people think it's like a career path 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:12.479 you can take. 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:13.839 You get what I'm saying. 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:16.240 Yeah, but some kids, like even I'll see, like I 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:17.800 have a three year old, but I'll see like some 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:21.400 kids like my daughter, I'm not trying to throw shade, 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:23.799 but like I don't think she has like the little artist, 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.080 but because she just scribbles all over things. But I 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:28.720 see some kids where they color in the lines really early, 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:29.440 and I'm like, oh. 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:30.560 Shit, what's that. 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:34.200 Yeah, I mean I don't know. I just know like 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:35.760 from my vibecane, you know, like I grew up in 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:41.359 North Philly. I went to Gillespie and then Simon Gratz 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:43.679 and then you know, it's like those schools are basically 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:46.040 like I can saider them like kind of like prisons 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:47.680 that you stay in from you know what I'm saying, 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:50.080 from like seven to like three wing and get out. 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:50.760 Wow. 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:52.520 Yeah, that's why I consider it as at least like 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:55.039 for my interpretation of it when I was paying attention. 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.200 But I just was just drawing, you know what I'm saying, 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:01.800 and they know it's like you know, after you know, 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:04.280 like the whole incident happened, because I couldn't tell you 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:05.960 what I was doing from nineteen to twenty two. The 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.880 only thing I remember was when I did come to. 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:13.040 I woke up on one of those like mentally come 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.040 trying to like put it in your head visually, because 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:19.280 like just imagine nineteenth birthday and then like in the 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:23.360 instant and you're blink and then you're on like windows 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.320 like white buses with all the other mentally challenged people. 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.560 Oh my god, and I'm looking around trying to figure 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:31.040 out what's going on. And then you know, as you know, 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:34.840 as I figured out, oh, this is my reality, you know. 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:36.920 And then at this point too, I was three hundred 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:40.440 pounds because of the medication that kept put me on 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:45.120 with all the water weight, and you know that's when 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:47.760 you know, drawing was still a thing I was still 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:51.200 doing that was keeping me like bringing me slowly together 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:52.360 as my mind came back. 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:53.600 And also too, you know. 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:56.360 I had like good friends like around the way that 0:07:56.520 --> 0:08:01.119 was always there for me, and that's honestly what brought 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:03.760 me back. That's why I'm always like strong on like 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:07.120 community and friends, because you know, it's like, if we 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.840 had more like real people around us, we wouldn't need 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:11.840 therapists and things like that. One thing you needed, just 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:13.840 somebody to talk to, Like you know, like when you 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:15.600 talk to some people, it's like, oh, I don't want 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:17.640 to I need to keep my peace. I don't want 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:19.120 to have you get to me and things like that, 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:20.720 you know, like none to ask niggas like that. You 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.480 know what I'm saying. It's like, if you have more 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:25.360 I know what to talk about. That's so sad, but 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:27.120 I do. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying, Cause 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.520 it's like those ain't like real like people. You know, 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:31.600 they're like people at the moment. They won't be around 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.040 forever anyway. But it's like, if people have more people 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:35.439 like that, you know what I'm saying, It's like we 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.240 wouldn't need therapists and things like that. 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:39.559 Always give a salute to John j R. 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:45.040 Alvin Daryl Reggie, you know, of course, my mom, you 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:48.439 know what I'm saying, and you always give them salot 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:51.400 and then you know as we come to this, you know, 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:53.840 I was like eating you know what I'm saying, eating 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.559 cup noodles a lot while I draw. You know, it's 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:58.559 like it was just quick to make you know what 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:01.360 I'm saying, while I just stay on my computer. 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:01.560 And just draw. 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:06.040 So yeah, and that's what kept That's what kept me going. 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:09.360 That's why this is so like monumental to me, because 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:11.559 I didn't, like necessary grow up in a bad household 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:13.560 my mom, you know what I'm saying. She, you know, 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:18.720 worked he stuff to death basically to like keep me comfortable. 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:20.520 Did you have any other siblings or just. 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:21.280 No, only child? 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:23.400 I got a half brother and half sister, but I 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:24.840 don't I don't really speak with them. 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:29.719 Okay, are they older? Yeah, big age gap, age gap. 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:33.160 Okay, so your mom's like a single mom after your dad? 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:37.160 Yeah, my my, but then my uh my real father. 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:39.360 He came into my life like around thirteen, but he 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:41.480 didn't make things better. He made things worse. He just 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:44.360 passed this year. You know, I love him, but you 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:48.320 know it's like you know, alcohol and everything else. You 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:51.079 know what I'm saying, Like, you love that more than 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:54.920 you know you loved your own son. So I don't know. 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:56.559 So did you ever tell him that. 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:58.560 I mean, it's only so much you can talk to 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:03.120 a person, you know. I don't know, It's just it's 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:04.920 just a sad thought one just like think about that. 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:07.680 But yeah, even even back then, when I think about 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:09.880 it now, I was like eating cup noodles then, like 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:13.240 when he would like leave me in the apartment to go, 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:16.079 Like I remember one one night we were near a 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.520 supermarket and he had like a forty ounce and I 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:21.599 was like probably twelve or thirteen, and you know, I 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:23.200 didn't wanted to drink. So you know, it's like when 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:25.840 he went into the supermarket, I grabbed a bottle and 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.360 then put it out on the not I didn't throw 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:29.800 it out by just like rolled it out of the 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:31.000 car because you know, I didn't want to have it 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:33.040 make a lot of noise. And then we came back 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:36.000 to the apartment. He made me cup noodles, and then 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:38.440 he couldn't find it, and then he left me in 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:42.720 the apartment for hours on end, looking looking for his 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:45.000 looking for his bottles. 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:48.160 Wow. Yeah, and during all this you're still drawing. 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:53.440 Yeah, okay, so you get out, let's be so what 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:56.400 what age do you get out? Of the mental Uh, 0:10:56.600 --> 0:11:00.760 twenty two twenty two, okay, and what year is this? 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:07.040 I think I think twenty twelve. 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:10.040 Twenty twelve, so between twenty twelve because I found out 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:13.960 about you probably like on the cusp of the pandemic, right, yeah, 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.840 which obviously you've been rolling. But when did you start 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:18.400 seeing like an uptick in your. 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:29.880 Art two twenty thirteen, two thousand. 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:30.520 Oh you started posting it that? 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:30.600 That? 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:33.280 Yeah, I started. I started out. I started on Facebook 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:35.640 because like there was a guy that discovered me on 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:38.160 Facebook and then was Trizzy the Mouth. It was like 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:40.960 one of my first managers. Like, you know, he's a 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:45.320 real good guy. You taught me like how to you know, uh, 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.560 real people in with the art. So just like its 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:53.840 first time me saying this, but it's like all right, 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:54.560 say it. 0:11:58.040 --> 0:11:58.400 All right. 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:00.679 So it's like the way I do my art is 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:05.720 like how a pimp reals in women. I'm so I'm 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:09.439 being by being dead serious. I'm being dead serious. I'm 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:10.920 being I'm being dead serious because this is the way 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:15.600 I was. It's like you get get them, you get 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:17.880 them comfortable, you know what I'm saying, and then like 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:20.240 once you get them to a certain point, then you 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:25.120 can start asking for favors and things like that. You know, 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:27.559 like I'm like a manipulator. But you know, the only 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:29.840 reason I gave that example because I was around people 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:32.600 like that, And that's the best example I can give 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:34.000 right right now off top of hip. 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:39.480 Well, I guess if your father was also like in addiction, 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:42.240 I'm pretty are manipulation, you know, Like. 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:44.240 You know, I grew up in like North Philly hang 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.760 out like a whole bunch of like different characters, you 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:48.520 know what I'm saying. So just like it's just a 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:51.440 whole people I don't hang out with now because like 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:53.480 you know, those people only like last for a certain 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:55.480 period of time, you know what I'm saying. You know, 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:58.360 It's like I known people that got killed all types 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:00.400 of all types of ship like that you saying. That's 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:03.880 why it's like, you know, it's like you know, it's 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.280 like it's a lot of those things like motivates to like, 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:08.560 all right, I don't want to be around these people. 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:12.000 I just want to just draw and you know, and 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:14.559 that's when I started, like you know, posting things on Facebook. 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:16.920 And then like I said, it's like I started learning 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:20.000 like okay, Like okay, I understand Oh, like this makes 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:22.040 people react like this, This makes people react like that. 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:23.880 So you know, a lot is like trial and error, 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:25.880 you know what I'm saying. Then while like you know, 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:28.760 like understanding like oh, you need a team of people 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:30.960 to help out, and you know, like he put that 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:32.600 mindset in my heads, like you know, you need a 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:35.120 team of people to do things, you know what I'm saying. 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:38.079 And you know what kind of things was he talking 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:40.400 about just on the management side, because he was trying 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:41.120 to manage you or. 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:43.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes he was because like he was 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:47.760 he wasn't manager for a period of time. But it's 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:51.280 just like try on error, you know what I'm saying. 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:55.200 That's really about it. Just try and error until you 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:57.320 just figure things out, you know what I'm saying, because 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.400 like I don't know, it's hard, it's hard to it's 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:02.000 like really just trying to error to figure out what. 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:04.000 People want, you know, get feedback. 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:06.280 From people you're like paying attention to, like the numbers, 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:07.559 the comments everything. 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:09.400 Yeah, and then that's when I started to develop like 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:12.520 a business mind. So but you know the issue is 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:14.520 with that when you like developing a business mind and 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:17.200 then you're also creative and start to clash. Like after 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:19.400 a while, you start to think too much about a 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:22.240 lot of things, and then you know you also learn 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:23.960 like who to trust and not to trust when you 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:26.920 send things out to people. So like, well this around, 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:30.760 like I think twenty fifteen, I think I was like 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:32.800 really into like you know, asking people, hey, what you think, 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:34.760 what you think? What you think, and then for. 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:37.320 You before you post or yeah, before I post. 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:39.280 But then I stopped doing that, like stop being so 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:43.520 trusting in people because I started getting like a bad 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:47.880 name about myself, like on the internet, because all right, 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:50.280 boom right. So I was doing this drawing of there 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:52.240 was a topic drawing. I like doing topic drawings or 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:54.280 like real stuff. So you know, it's like it was 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:54.920 like a simple thing. 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:55.080 You know. 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:56.920 It's like you see like some parents like they brag 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:59.560 about like yo, oh my kid can do this and 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:01.160 that when they're baby, you know what I'm saying, but 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.840 then like they're trying to growing up and just like 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:05.240 just be like. 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:08.040 Just a nobody. 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:11.720 Yeah, but the drawing wasn't done and the person put 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:12.280 me out there to. 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:13.640 Be a colorist for whatever reason. 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:17.400 Yeah, So that's why I just stopped like sharing things 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:19.960 with people for something that's done, and then it got 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:24.360 like real bad on Twitter and people will start this 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:26.160 when you start like understanding like how people try to 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:29.120 cancel people, Yeah, and it's like try to separate. Oh 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:31.240 he puts light skinned women in this light and put 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:32.360 dark skinned women in dislight. 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:33.520 It was like it was real bad. 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:35.520 It was like you know, normally on the internet like 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:38.360 things like last like three days a week back, this 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:39.560 lasts like for a whole month. 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:40.880 It was real. It was real bad. 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:42.600 And then how do you react when you see those 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:45.560 negative comments? Do you do? You do you internalize them? 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:48.240 Or when you first start dealing with that Because I'm 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:50.040 a type of person things don't bother me. But it's 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:52.200 like when it's constantly in your face over and over 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:54.840 and over, it will start to get to you. And 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:58.280 you know that is what and from what from something 0:15:58.280 --> 0:15:59.840 like that happened to me that inspired me, like to 0:15:59.880 --> 0:16:04.000 me my first character Kayla, Kayla. 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:25.680 Kyla. 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:18.000 Kyla. 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:22.480 Yeah, okay, I got into that and I like that 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:25.520 pivot there. I like that pivot. So you get into Kaylea. 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:27.680 But now we're in twenty twenty four and you're just 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.000 now are you just now releasing Kayla? 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:30.160 Right? 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:31.840 Now, No, I've been I've been putting I've been putting 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:36.080 the character out since two thousand and nineteen. 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:38.000 But you know, I was like slowly working on it. 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:38.240 You know. 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:40.320 It's like I'm a kind of perfectionist in a way. 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:40.560 You know. 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:42.200 It's like I said, like the business mind, I want 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:45.240 to know, okay, what works for this and that. You 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:46.520 know what I'm saying, a lot of times you only 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:48.920 got like the first impression. Yeah, a lot of times 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:51.280 we don't get a lot of do overs. So like 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:53.360 to go into like explain Kayla. You know, it's like 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:56.560 it's made for like people that love manga and anime, 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:59.280 so something like specific like she's meant for the showing 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:02.480 and jump like demographic. And then I say, like the 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:08.240 shownan jump demographic basically shown jump means like comics for 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:12.920 teenage boys in Japanese basically, And you know, when I 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:14.920 see you online, you know, everybody loves the moon docks 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:17.480 and things like that, you know, and I was like 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:20.040 the only thing, what's the last thing we had was 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:21.439 the Boon docks. I'm like, all right, let me just 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:25.760 make something like that. And my first showed Kayla to 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:31.080 Charlemagne and what did he think he liked it? But 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:34.439 you know, it's like it just I guess it just 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:38.880 wasn't ready, so so, you know, and then after a while, 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:40.840 like around the pandemic, I decided like, or I'll just 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:43.960 start like making books, you know, making chapters. I felt 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:47.680 nineteen chapters through the course of like a year or two. 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:53.880 And when I felt the first chapter, NBC reached out 0:17:53.920 --> 0:18:03.320 to me. Complex the Complex website, uh, Netflix, this animation 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:08.760 studio called Powerhouse that made he Man in Castlevania, And. 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:10.399 What are you thinking when they're reaching out to you? 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:14.680 It was it was, it was, it was amazing. But 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:17.439 then like you start to realize, like you start understanding 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:19.919 like this field, it's like people will reach out to you, 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:22.159 but not like to immediately help you out there, just 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:24.840 want to wait and see, you know. And that's like 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:26.960 and then you know, like once you get into like 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:28.920 things like that, you know, it's like. 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:33.040 You questioned it at first. It's like it's my. 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:36.679 Stuff not good, it's not good enough, Like what's it missing? 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:39.560 It's like just people just waiting for something to happen, 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:42.600 to reach to you. Were they even giving you direction though? 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:45.840 When they're waiting, No, it's like I even talked to 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:48.600 like one of the creators of the moon Docks. It 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:50.800 was like that that was a that was a high 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:54.159 for me other than like I mean, I mean, I mean, 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:58.399 I had multiple highs. I did animated commercial Italian what 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:01.399 was it? Italian commercial? He has a Titian amate commercial 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:04.800 for McDonald's. I did the Breakfast Club art studio. 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:07.280 Then backtrack, how did you end up first crossing past 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:08.120 with Charlotte Magne. 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:11.440 He was following me for a little bit and then 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:14.720 I put out this drawing called Dice Game. And then 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:17.159 once Dice Game came out, Charlomagne shared it, but he 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:18.880 shared it in a sarcastic way. But you know, when 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:22.000 you're reading sarcasm, you think somebody's really angry about it 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:24.119 type shit, you know what I'm saying. And then it's 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:27.399 up spreading around. And then Donald Glover in the reaching 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:30.280 out to me and he ended up putting I mean 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:32.399 it's people did, and then he ended up putting it 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:36.240 on Atlanta. Yeah, the art working up on Atlanta, and 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:38.200 then he asked me to like work on feel Like 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:40.679 Summer Video and that was my first like job that 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:43.160 like you know, started everything. 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:46.439 And what was what was your like thought process, Like 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:53.560 when you're getting this first gig, I was, how are 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:54.160 you sitting? 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:55.040 Where were you doing? 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:58.240 What was that I was in? I was in Pittsburgh, PA, 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:07.120 on the farm dating a mixed race girl, stressing, stressing 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:07.720 the funk. 0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:09.120 Out over the girl. 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:11.119 She was yelling at me and all that she had 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:11.880 anger issues. 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:13.240 That's hilarious. 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:15.119 Yeah, I loved it though, but that's all I always 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:16.600 ended up running to mean girls. 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:18.000 Okay, so you're MPa. 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:22.800 You get this call Pittsburg, Pittsburgh in the middle of nowhere, 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:25.520 in the middle of nowhere, Yes, on a farm, on 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:26.920 a farm. 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:30.160 With a tornado warning going on, by the way, You. 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:34.360 Get this call in the shade in the shed, okay, 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:37.119 and what are you thinking? Are you thinking like I 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:39.840 don't belong here, Like this is not where I'm meant 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:41.120 to be when you get that call. 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:44.720 I don't know, it's kind of weird to say. 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:46.480 It's like, I don't really get too excited about a 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:48.639 lot of things because those prior things I told you about, 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:50.119 So you know what I'm saying, Like I believe it 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:52.199 wants to start. And then once he paid me, like 0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:54.119 my first half, I was like, oh shit, this is 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:54.520 a thing. 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:57.280 And this was like even when you got the contract before, 0:20:57.359 --> 0:20:58.040 you weren't. 0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:01.480 Like you know, people give you contracts and then like 0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:05.760 things don't start, you know. But yeah, I was super 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:08.240 excited and then I didn't think about I didn't bring 0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:09.760 my computer or nothing because I was just. 0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:11.080 On, like, you're hilarious. 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:11.440 I was. 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:12.960 I was. I was on a bake. I was on 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:13.560 a vacation. 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:15.200 I was. 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:16.240 I was on the baking. 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:18.359 You were just visiting her, Yeah, I just I was 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:23.600 just forcefully had had to go. I'll talk about that 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:27.960 another time. But anyway, all right, so boom right the empery. Yeah, 0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:30.320 but anyway, I had to improvise, right, so boom right, 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:32.359 I had to. I was saying, like, yo, what we 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:33.800 gotta go to the store. I just got like a 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:36.399 whole bunch of paper and just drew out all the 0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:38.680 characters minu right. It was like I think it was 0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:41.840 about like sixty nine like characters. I had to drew 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:44.280 for the not just like one angle, a couple of 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:48.199 angles too. That was like vicious crazy, yeah, all on 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:50.040 all on paper. I think that was like when when 0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:52.000 that bio came out two thousand and eight, So yeah, 0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:55.760 two thousand eighteen eighteen. It was like really the last 0:21:55.760 --> 0:21:57.960 time I really drew on paper like that before I 0:21:58.000 --> 0:22:00.560 went like fully digital, Like yeah, it was like I 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:02.520 knocked that drawn. I only had like two weeks to 0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:06.120 like finish everything in like sixty like all those drawings. 0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:08.520 Who was the first question you call? You get the call? 0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:09.840 Did you call your mom? 0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:11.080 No? 0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:12.639 I wouldn't think about it. I just went like into 0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:14.879 work Yeah, went to work mode. 0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:17.000 Wow, I'm saying because like different. 0:22:16.800 --> 0:22:21.440 Yeah, cause ragging going on? No, cause like you know this, 0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:23.160 this is a passion of minds. I didn't know that, 0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:25.000 Like you know, I end up getting discovered by a 0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:27.600 manager off of Facebook of all that is like I 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:29.960 would never known that. Like people want paid me money 0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:31.879 to do these things, like it's a blessing. It's like 0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:32.600 this is myself. 0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:34.560 Was the check looking like if you don't mind. 0:22:34.640 --> 0:22:36.840 It was, I got paid eight thousand dollars. That was first, 0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:38.880 Like that was like my first big check. But then 0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:40.760 like the thing that came from it though, is like 0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:42.800 people think that you're rich off of doing just like 0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:45.680 one thing like that was the weird thing. 0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:50.119 And you had a manager then uh, why I mean you. 0:22:50.119 --> 0:22:55.800 Make eighteen This was privately. Yeah, it was right before. 0:22:55.840 --> 0:23:00.600 That was right before I met him, and uh, but 0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:02.680 the biggest thing I took away from that once I did, 0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:05.840 like meet meet him, like, I do multiple things. 0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:08.639 You know, I write. You know what I'm saying, Like, 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:10.720 I literally, I literally do like everything. 0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:13.480 You're a great writer too, Yeah, thank you, and you 0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:17.359 know because he does a lot of things too. And uh, 0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:19.360 when I went backstage to talk to him about that, 0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:21.280 he just told me this is the biggest advice. I 0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:23.120 didn't believe him at the time, but now I understand. 0:23:23.200 --> 0:23:25.520 You just said, do it work for you, like in 0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:27.800 the moment, and then once it slows down, go on 0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:30.240 to the other things. I didn't understand that at first. 0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:34.479 It was like Don Glover, OK, yeah, okay, that's good advice. 0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:36.600 Yeah, but I didn't believe him at first. I was 0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:39.200 like him, like, nah, like that, that can't be true. 0:23:39.240 --> 0:23:41.240 You can do everything, but no, you eventually have burnout. 0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:45.240 So so yeah, so you do the project. Did you 0:23:45.320 --> 0:23:47.199 end up getting any burnout? 0:23:47.640 --> 0:23:47.880 No? 0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:51.440 Like, because I was like, I was on ten because 0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:54.760 after that, you know, that's when I met Charlotmagne and 0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:56.600 then I got to be on the Brilliant Idiots twice. 0:23:56.680 --> 0:23:59.560 That was that was a big thing twice, and I 0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:04.000 got like like one of the biggest moments on uh 0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:05.920 when I first went on there, because I just be saying, 0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:07.399 like there's anything out of my mouth for like a 0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:09.240 lot of times, especially like when you get like moments 0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:10.960 like that, it's like, oh, I'm probably not gonna have 0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:13.080 another chance. Let me just say some nuts ship just 0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:15.640 like just to get people talking, because it's one thing 0:24:15.720 --> 0:24:17.439 I know I do. I know I get people's attention. 0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:19.119 So I'm like, all right, let me just do that. 0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:23.440 I know, like people work type I'm saying. And then yeah, 0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:26.640 every and then after that, everything start to like pile on. 0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:29.040 Like I said, like I did like a lot of jobs. 0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:31.240 I did something for Tree songs like and make commercial 0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:35.720 trade song, did something for Bobby's murder, even even like 0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:43.880 till now, like doing something for a new balance the army, and. 0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:47.200 They're reaching out. I'm is your manager working the phones 0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:48.080 NonStop too. 0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:52.159 But of course but then also too, they just naturally 0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:54.520 reached out to me because I put out product that 0:24:54.560 --> 0:24:56.560 people you know what I'm saying. 0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:57.800 And now right now I'm in. 0:24:57.760 --> 0:24:59.240 The point in my life where it's like I'm trying 0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:01.359 to package it because you know my end goals, I 0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:05.359 want my own movie studio. Okay, yeah, so that's what 0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:06.000 I really want. 0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:07.480 So it's like right now, it's a pivotal time. 0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:09.600 That's why I like my character Kla is so important 0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:12.120 because trying to show that I know how to make 0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:14.480 products that people want to buy. Like I said, I 0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:17.399 put out nineteen chapters like during the pandemic through that 0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:19.840 whole year, Like I said, all those people reached out 0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:21.560 to me in the beginning, you know what I'm saying. 0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:22.760 So I did that first. 0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:25.280 So it's like once I start doing the animations, like 0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:27.199 people have like things so they can get hooked on, 0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:29.679 and then you know, her following start to go up 0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:33.440 because she has seventy thousand followers on Instagram almost ten 0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:37.439 thousand one TikTok and like a lot of stuff go viral. 0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:39.359 Like you know what I'm saying. I love it. 0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:39.680 You know. 0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:41.880 It's like my whole thing is like I really want, 0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:44.280 like you know, black girls to be like represented in 0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:47.240 that field authentically. That's why I came in authentically with 0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:51.240 buying on authentically. 0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:56.080 Let's see if the is soft. 0:25:57.640 --> 0:26:02.200 There's another reason for that too, because like last month. 0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:05.000 It was like, basedly the worst month of my life 0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:14.000 honestly because uh, I started so I don't know the 0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:16.600 best way to put this. So I started developing heart problems. 0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:19.040 I seen that online, like a little bit of it. 0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:22.480 I was scrolling why this will affect it? 0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:23.800 Mm hmm. 0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:25.040 No. 0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:27.280 But it's my first time like touching it in like 0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:29.680 a couple of months, which is sad. Made me sad 0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:35.200 because so I ran to my ex recently. She wanted 0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:38.080 to meet up with me. Yeah, I was no, no, 0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:40.720 and you know, I was relucted. I was reluctant at first. 0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:42.119 It's like, why do you want to meet up with me? 0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:44.120 And like all right, and then we and then we're 0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:47.760 chilling by the closure, yeah, by the art museum and 0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:50.040 Philly type type time you I'm saying. She gave me 0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:52.920 a hug, right, and she was like, oh, like your 0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:54.920 heart is beating fast. You must miss me. I'm like, 0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:56.600 we're talking about. 0:26:56.200 --> 0:26:58.160 And then your stories are good? 0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:00.880 Yeah, And then the next day and then next day, 0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:03.760 you know, I started feeling like these hard ass heart 0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:06.359 I never noticed my heart beat before. It's like boom boom, 0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:10.000 like it's feeling beating out my chest. Yeah, and then 0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:11.600 you know, I said up, I ended up going to 0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:14.439 the doctor, and then he ended up telling me go 0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:16.439 to like the ear nose and throat doctor, and you know, 0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:18.480 I go to the you know, do the cat scans 0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:22.120 or whatever the heart layer on in the month type ship. 0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:23.520 And then you know, I go to ear nose and 0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:25.359 throw doctor. I've been hearing like a posting sound in 0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:27.080 my in my left ear. So I ended up finding 0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:29.600 out that I ended up losing like slight hearing loss 0:27:29.600 --> 0:27:32.320 in my left ear. You know, I hear the heart 0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:34.720 beat sound in my left ear. And then I went 0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:37.439 to the you know, after I next went to the 0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:39.760 throat doctors opened up my mouth. The nurse went like 0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:42.719 oh wow, and then immediately brung in the doctor and 0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:46.439 the other nurses and I had like a uh, I 0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:47.880 don't know I was called, but was like I think 0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:50.080 a pulp or something like that. It's like a little 0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:53.240 ball like being back in your mouth. And you know, 0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:55.320 he was being like really nonchalant about it. It was like 0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:57.040 kind of weird, and he's like, you know, we can 0:27:57.080 --> 0:27:58.560 cut it out if you want, but we don't. 0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:00.119 You know what I'm saying, it's up to you. I 0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:02.440 was like just cut it out and then cut. 0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:06.280 It out and and then a couple of days later, 0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:11.919 That's why I made my posts. So I thought like 0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:14.280 my mouth was dry when I was waking up, but 0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:16.200 then end up going to the bathroom and to find 0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:17.640 out like my mouth was like. 0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:19.240 Full on black. 0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:21.760 That's how much blood was like coming out of my mouth. 0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:23.080 And then I got rushed to the er. 0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:26.600 Yeah, because the wound had like bust open and from 0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:28.560 them cutting it out. No, this was a couple days 0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:31.240 after it was healing. I wasn't allowed to eat anything. 0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:34.160 So this whole so like this whole month just passed 0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:37.359 like like I couldn't eat solid food or nothing like 0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:41.040 that type. And then you know, it took them from 0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:42.720 like whether it was like six in the morning until 0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:45.400 three pm for them to stop the bleeding. But this 0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:47.360 whole time, you know, my mom was there with me. 0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:51.080 My whole right side was turning cold. The security guard 0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:52.640 at the hospital kept on trying to get me to 0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:54.760 sit down, kept on telling like, no, if I sit down, 0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:57.400 I'm not waking up. And that was right because when 0:28:57.400 --> 0:29:00.560 the nurses came into the drawing the sea me. So 0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:03.040 I sat down, my head was like like that type 0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:07.080 ship like kep going up, like because I lost a 0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:10.160 lot of blood. Jesus, yeah, I lost I lost a lot. 0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:12.360 So it's like your first real Yeah, it was. 0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:13.440 Like a first real scare. 0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:15.920 I mean think about you can say technically, because you know, 0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:18.160 the mental health stuff happened early on and then this 0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:19.880 next and then you. 0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:21.440 Know, it's like I went back up. 0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:24.760 You know, they finished, they fixed everything, you know what 0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:27.000 I'm saying, got the bleeding and stopping all that, and 0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:29.160 then you know, I ended up going back to you know, 0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:31.520 the doctor next week, told them about it and things 0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:33.840 like that, and it's like, oh, that's not supposed to happen. Like, no, ship, 0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:36.160 that's not supposed to fucking happen, dickad you know what 0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:40.520 I'm saying. But but yeah, and then he's gonna drop 0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:43.040 a bombshell on me. Oh yeah, so tests came back 0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:45.800 you don't got cancer, and like cancer, Like, how you 0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:47.760 gonna leave that away from somebody, you know what I'm saying, 0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:50.360 at least tell me about it. 0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:51.200 What did they say? 0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:55.120 It was basically from something like that. It's like that's 0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:58.640 how basically cancer would start, oh through mouth, like with 0:29:58.680 --> 0:29:59.840 that pulp in the back of your mouth. 0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:00.640 Yeah. 0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:02.600 So I always tell everybody just go to the doctor's 0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.400 type time. You know what I'm saying, because you never know. Yeah, 0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:06.080 you know what I'm saying. 0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:08.920 So is this your first official like meal from drinking 0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:09.920 slurpees or something? 0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:10.480 No? 0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:13.720 No, no, no, no, no milkshakes, no, no no, because 0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:15.280 it's like it's still it's still a lot going on. 0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:17.920 Because then like after after that, went to the heart 0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:21.280 doctor and the final out, I got like heart pomplitation something, 0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:24.040 so it's like rapidly start beating type ship and then 0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:27.000 he heard like a clicking sound there. So I still 0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:29.920 got to do more testing and things like that and 0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:33.120 also find out, oh after. 0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:35.560 All that, oh you got high you got high cholesterol. 0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:37.840 Now after all that, so it's like the other thing 0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:39.480 that made me sad because it's like I really can't 0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:41.600 do what I want to do. So, like you know 0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:43.440 what I'm saying. So it's like it's like it's really 0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:44.200 frush straight. 0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:48.360 You'll fit right in with the vegetable eaters. Yeah, the 0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:50.400 no salts and sugar people. 0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:51.160 Don't know y'all do it? 0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:52.600 Well, I don't do it. 0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:53.440 I was. 0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:56.040 I was when I found out that I can't you 0:30:56.080 --> 0:30:58.040 can't eat this. You can't drink that. I was crying. 0:30:58.080 --> 0:31:01.120 I was swinging like I got and take this no. 0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:03.960 More, no need Jesus, we need to have you around. 0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:06.760 So you better eat all the vegetables and the salads, y'all. 0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:09.600 I could tell your crew thorough. The manager, he's probably 0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:13.120 every time you look at a steak, he's probably he's 0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:13.560 a sad. 0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:15.160 Here's some oatmeal I pulled. 0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:17.160 I pulled stick out my back pocket and eat it. 0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:21.960 Oh no, I don't know. So during this whole, like. 0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:27.360 This career, were there any dips, like real solid dips 0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:27.960 in between. 0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:30.640 I'm currently going through a dip right now. 0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:31.400 Really. 0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:32.040 Yeah. 0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:34.920 So it's like last year I made like one hundred 0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:41.560 grand through uh commission work. But then AI came around, 0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:43.160 and that's the big thing that you know, it's like 0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:44.960 messing up with AI too. 0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:46.160 Yeah, what happened? 0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:46.680 What happened? 0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:48.600 What AI doing to you? 0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:51.080 You know, people think that like you can do everything 0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:54.120 through AI, which isn't you know, because you know the 0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:56.960 way these companies do, they like make everything seem like 0:31:57.520 --> 0:32:00.000 it's really that way, really isn't you know what I'm saying. 0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:02.600 And now people starting to come back along and it's 0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:04.840 like all right, like these things really can't do. And 0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:07.360 then plus people want that authentic feeling even more. 0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:09.840 Yeah, how are they going to AI like your level 0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:14.720 of creativity? Though, I mean, I guess it's I guess 0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:16.880 it's semi possible, but yeah, you would miss a lot 0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:17.720 of the authenticity. 0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:21.840 I mean, it can't. You know what I'm saying. It can't. 0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:23.880 You're always gonna need that human touch because don't get 0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:26.760 me wrong, it's like I like AI. I like AI too, 0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:28.320 but it's saying, but I only use it to like 0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:29.960 what it's supposed to be used for. It is like 0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:32.120 a background tool, not something to replace, like say, like 0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:34.080 if I'm writing a script or something like that, right, 0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:38.720 I'll uh have it cleaned up for me a script 0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:41.800 form for I show it to somebody. That's how That's 0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:43.840 how you're supposed to use it. You know what I'm saying. 0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:46.720 It's a lot of And then like, man, it's like, 0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:48.720 so you're saying. 0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:50.200 Your dip is coming from the AI. 0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:53.320 It was Now it's picking up. But the thing I 0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:55.000 was about to go on about AI, the thing that 0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:57.800 makes it so sad about AI, Like in the creative field, 0:32:57.800 --> 0:32:59.000 you don't know who's talented. 0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:12.520 Because people rely on it so much. 0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:15.480 So say that for example, right, like me, I can 0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:18.480 come over a concept or something and then draw it 0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:21.120 out right and show somebody like I'll show like a 0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:22.960 quick sketch like Okay, this's the example of what you 0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:25.360 should do, but do it in your way, interpret in 0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:28.000 your way. But because of AI, a lot of these 0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:31.480 people can't even do that. They're just literally like because 0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:32.880 what you can do with AI is like, okay, I'll 0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:36.160 take a road light sketch of something like it, say like, 0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:38.560 I'll like make a bullshit image of this room and 0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:40.920 then you know, put into one of the prompts, type 0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:43.280 in the prompt and then boom, it'll make it for you. Right, 0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:47.160 But when it comes to animation, you really can't do that, 0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:49.160 you know what I'm saying, SEC you do three D 0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:51.400 or something like that, right, It's like, if I'm asking 0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:53.840 you to do something that's really like detail oriented, you're 0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:55.360 not gonna be able to do it because A I 0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:57.560 don't allow those things like that because AI spew out 0:33:57.640 --> 0:34:00.440 random images so you so. 0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:02.520 It's never always it's never even perfect or AI it's 0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:03.600 not consistent either. 0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:06.480 Because like it's just taking from things on the why. 0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:07.640 Your business picking back up. They tried it and they 0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:08.439 realized it wasn't. 0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:09.880 Yeah, yeah, but it's not. 0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:11.239 It's not just them you're talking about when you're just 0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:13.640 trying to find the right people to fit your team. 0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:16.600 So because of that, it makes it harder to find 0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:19.080 the right people, especially like when you end up like 0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:21.680 getting a relationship with these people you like them that 0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:24.480 get in the final Wow, man, like you you're fraud 0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:25.960 you know what I'm saying. 0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:27.960 So, like, if you're working with a company and they 0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:30.000 have their own team, you're working with them, you find 0:34:30.000 --> 0:34:31.480 out that maybe they're not no, no. 0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:34.080 No, it's like this okay, So like these companies will 0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:35.880 reach out to you and they know you got your 0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:37.520 own team of artists that work with you. 0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:39.600 Right, so you have your own team, Yeah, I. 0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:40.760 Got my own team like animators. 0:34:40.760 --> 0:34:42.680 But the issue is with that, it's like I don't 0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:45.359 know that they don't use AIS. So now I ask 0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:47.080 a question, do you rely on AI a lot? 0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:48.560 Because you do? I can't. 0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:50.880 I can't rock with you because you're not a creative 0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:53.799 and because that you'll end up making me look bad 0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:55.640 and I got to take over your work. 0:34:57.360 --> 0:35:03.239 But now, how do you wouldn't they just lie. Huh, 0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:04.400 wouldn't they just lie? 0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:05.640 What do you mean by lie? 0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:08.560 Like and just say that they they wouldn't they just 0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:10.160 lie and just be like Yeah, I don't use AI 0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:12.120 really just to get on your team. 0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:14.280 But you know, it's like I do like a vetting process, 0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:14.520 you know. 0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:16.680 I use my YouTube channel, like, hey, like help me 0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:19.319 out with some like projects online or something like that, 0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:21.280 some quick things, you know what I'm saying. 0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:22.920 And that's the way, like you're like test them on 0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:23.560 the spot. 0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:24.240 Yeah. 0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:27.880 But but even but even still, it's just like just 0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:29.920 the crib community just getting bad out here. When it 0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:34.400 comes to that, I'm just afraid, like years down the line, 0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:36.960 like people are not gonna be able to do nothing. 0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:41.279 Well, I don't like to backtrack, but take me back 0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:44.720 to like your original inspiration that got you into drawing, 0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:47.319 because I know it helped you hope through things, But 0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:49.239 like where was that first initial seed? 0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:53.400 You like things like Naruto, dragon Ball, dragon Ball Z. 0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:56.440 You know, the generics of everybody. Everybody, Like you know 0:35:56.440 --> 0:35:58.239 what I'm saying, people some people like one piece, you 0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:01.040 know I'm saying. I watched a lot of cartoon cartoon network. 0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:05.799 I was a cartoon network kid. Yeah, just like all 0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:09.439 those things. But my style really comes from Dragon Ball 0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:12.520 from dragon Ball Z because like the way you draw 0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:15.720 the pupils, the ears. That's why I'm really like big 0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:19.520 on yeah like that. And then what a thing that 0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:25.080 taught me style was was bleach. You never heard of bleak? No, 0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:26.759 I don't expect you to know Bleach is? You know 0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:29.520 what bleach it is? Chris IF's smiling so hard? 0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:30.960 Are you laughing so hard? 0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:32.959 I can see the gap between his teeth. 0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:40.040 He's smiling so hard talking behind the camera. So what 0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:42.040 are the next projects you have coming out? 0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:47.680 Right now? You know it's right now? The real main 0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:51.399 thing is Kayla because that's my spider Man. Okay, yeah, 0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:53.359 so I'm putting my all into that. So it's like 0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:56.640 I'm working on a one it's called a one shot, 0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:58.880 so it's going to be sixty something pages. 0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:01.120 You know. 0:37:01.239 --> 0:37:04.120 Were putting out trailers for it and all that, treating 0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:06.239 like it's a real thing, you know what I'm saying. 0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:08.720 And then I plan on turn it into a short 0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:11.719 film eventually. But yeah, like I'm not going to be 0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:15.480 doing like no more like regular like videos of the 0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:17.239 moment type thing. I really want to take this stuff 0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:20.560 to another level. So I'm doing like treating like all 0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:22.200 my animations when I put them out. 0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:23.080 Like short films. 0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:23.840 I like that. 0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:25.960 Yeah, So it's like all my videos going to be filmed, 0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:28.160 gonna have that short film vibe. You know, I'm gonna 0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:30.040 be submitting them into film festivals. 0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:32.399 But so, how how long would a short film be? 0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:32.960 For you? 0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:35.520 A short film can be any lanth It can be 0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:38.239 a minute to six minutes, ten minutes, it doesn't it 0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:38.920 doesn't matter. 0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:42.879 Are you going to charge your fans to watch it? 0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:45.680 No? No, I'm not going to. 0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:48.080 I don't believe in like things like that, you know 0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:48.600 what I'm saying. 0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:50.600 Not in the same way, by the way, I don't. 0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:53.279 Yeah, it's just weird because it's like it's even hard 0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:55.160 to like even make them like a Patreon because it's 0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:59.640 like it's like i'd rather like sell you merch you know, 0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:02.160 once I convince you that that you'd like to product 0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:04.000 that much, you want to support me in that way 0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:06.600 firstus like doing something like that. So I'm back and 0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:09.319 forth with it. But yeah, like all next year, you know, 0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:13.120 it's going to be like just promoting Kayla just all 0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:16.239 just all around gotten too much crazy feedback. People like 0:38:16.320 --> 0:38:17.880 her a lot, and now it's like for me to 0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:18.279 put my. 0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:20.440 Stamp on it, and then how are you going to 0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:22.439 distribute it and all that? 0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:24.200 You know online? 0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:28.520 Probably do something like bookstore releases and just everything, because 0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:31.080 like I said, it's like I really you know, people 0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:33.920 really feeding for a new Boon Docks and it's not 0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:35.879 like a Boon Docks or anything like that. I'll break 0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:38.120 it down a little bit. So it's basically it's around 0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:43.080 h zodiac signs. Their powers around zodiac signs. Right, So 0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:45.080 say like I'm an Eries for instance, Right, so it's 0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:49.800 like my zodiac ability would be around flames and rage, 0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:51.800 anything doing with rage. 0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:53.600 Yeah. 0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:57.680 But we we we hard hitted straight to the point. 0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:00.120 I'm straight to a point right now, go to the bad. 0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:03.640 From you know what I'm saying your whole okay. 0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:05.200 Yeah, but yeah, but that's how it goes. You know, 0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:05.920 It's like I made it. 0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:06.120 You know. 0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:08.319 It's like like I said, it's for that demographic of 0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:11.839 people that like things like juice to Kaisen. You don't 0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:12.600 know that is no. 0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:17.120 Stop at a bunch of things. 0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:19.279 I want to say whole things like I'm saying, like 0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:22.719 juice Kaisen, Uh, you know what I'm saying. People that 0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:26.800 love just ain'tthing dealing with that shown in genre, except 0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:29.040 you know, it's just a girl that has like a 0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:35.920 feisty attitude of a you sky what you say? 0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:39.200 What you you're a MESHI? 0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:42.560 Okay, yeah, I don't know. Look I'm still a fan 0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:44.200 and I don't know these things. 0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:46.840 So yeah, you'll pop up, You'll pop up in the book. 0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:48.640 I'll draw you. I'll draw you. 0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:48.759 Know. 0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:50.239 If you do that, I promise you, I would be 0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:51.600 so hyped, like little kid. 0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:52.120 You'll be one. 0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:53.759 You'll be one of the agents. Okay, I'll go in 0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:55.839 a little bit further with with it. Right, So it's 0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:58.640 like it's a secret agency called the Core. So think 0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:02.279 of like it's the Men in Black type world where 0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:04.759 it's like you gotts like deal with like monsters that 0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:05.720 people can't see. 0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:07.920 Yeah, so and. 0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:10.680 You know how like the government be like people like 0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:15.560 compiracy theories. I can't yeah, where ITAs like they make 0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:17.799 things up, say like for example, in this world, right, 0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:21.360 a big, a big explosion goes off, right, but you 0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:24.240 know in this world is about like monsters you can't see. 0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:27.680 But you know, like the Core, the Men in Black type, 0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:29.839 they're you know, they're covering things up. 0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:32.239 So you seeing the news about like, oh, like. 0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:35.080 A pipe burst or something like that the cause this, 0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:43.200 So it's like really like the monsters. Yeah, yeah, so 0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:45.239 it's really it's really like that. And her thing is 0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:49.279 like collecting all like collecting all the orbs so she 0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:55.799 can like power up to go against yeah, orbs. I 0:40:55.800 --> 0:40:58.000 think they'll be nice key chains and plushies for people. 0:40:58.080 --> 0:41:02.080 What's your sign, Aquaris, I'll send you one, by the way. 0:41:02.280 --> 0:41:05.160 Yeah, that's why we get along so well. 0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:07.040 I didn't know that they are right there. What did 0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:07.680 you say anywhere? 0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:09.400 Angry? 0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:09.880 Angry? 0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:11.120 Yeah, to the point. 0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:13.320 I don't really know a lot of angry aries. 0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:16.080 You're talking to angry areas right now. 0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:21.880 I'm shi. When's your birthday? You know what. 0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:25.080 Maybe it's the ones that are born with the March dates. 0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:26.600 Yeah, that's it. 0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:29.839 I know women aries, that's kind of like angry all 0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:32.919 the time. Yeah, but I don't know men. 0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:34.640 You're the first. 0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:40.640 I could be bitchy. Where's my milk and cookies? Oh? 0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:41.840 Promise me making cookies. 0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:43.520 What's a day in the life of you right now? 0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:48.200 But day in life of me right now? You know? 0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:50.520 Playing bild games. 0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:55.640 Really Yeah, how much time do you spend like drawing 0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:57.200 and all that all day? 0:41:57.640 --> 0:41:59.239 It can go from like ten to ten. 0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:02.759 And what is your mom say about all of this success? 0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:11.680 Sounds like, uh, she don't be believing nothing. I'll be saying, 0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:13.839 she'd be thinking, I'd be lyings like I don't tell 0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:15.719 you nothing. She didn't start believing nothing until. 0:42:15.520 --> 0:42:18.040 She saw what do mean. 0:42:18.040 --> 0:42:19.800 She'd be thinking you're lying at this point. 0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:21.120 Yeah, no, she don't. 0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:22.880 She don't think of lying no more until like I 0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:24.880 have a Breakfast Cluve interview two years ago. Then she 0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:25.840 started believing stuff. 0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:29.520 So that's so funny. What race are you? 0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:33.520 You? Just regular black regular regularmegular regular, black regular. 0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:35.719 They used to call me a poppy store general when 0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:39.880 I was little. Why Yeah, They say say I look Spanish. 0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:41.319 I was like, yeah, you look like you could be 0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:41.839 mixed with something. 0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:44.120 I saying, no, I am. I am black. 0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:47.320 Regular Smegula regular Smegula black. Okay, okay. 0:42:48.880 --> 0:42:52.000 What advice would you give to anyone that any young 0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:56.279 person or older person that's like pursuing that field, that 0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:58.000 genre of work. 0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:01.239 Be prepared And the main thing I see a lot 0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:03.160 of people do is like they quit their jobs way 0:43:03.200 --> 0:43:05.880 too early. Because I didn't quit my job until it 0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:06.520 made sense. 0:43:07.840 --> 0:43:08.919 Was what was your job? 0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:10.240 I worked in dietary? 0:43:10.800 --> 0:43:11.440 What does that mean? 0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:12.640 It was in the kitchen. 0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:15.960 Oh you were like cooking, like you know, like serving 0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:17.160 the food, cleaning. 0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:19.279 It was a nursing home. 0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:23.880 Oh okay, yeah, okay, And you worked that till what point? 0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:27.880 I worked there until two thousand and seventeen. 0:43:29.000 --> 0:43:33.160 Okay, so that's right before yeah came into the picture. 0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:35.480 Was that right before your eight thousand dollars? 0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:35.839 Right? 0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:36.239 That was. 0:43:38.160 --> 0:43:39.880 That didn't come into like a year. They didn't come 0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:41.799 into like a year later. That's why I made That's 0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:44.120 why I made you quit? What made you say I 0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:49.200 could quit? Because because I made like twenty four thousand 0:43:49.440 --> 0:43:51.480 by myself doing what though? 0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:52.680 Just doing commission work? 0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:55.600 Okay? And how much were you making at the day job? 0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:57.320 Same amount? 0:43:58.600 --> 0:44:00.719 Okay, I would have done the same. I would have 0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:03.040 done the same, but I try to stack the money though. 0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:06.640 For a little bit before you quit, I was buying snapbacks. 0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:11.120 Okay, Yeah, you look like a fashion guy like this 0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:12.439 this overall set? 0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:15.719 Yeah, this is this is this is premium pit bull letter? 0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:19.800 Is it really? It's a really cute outfit. 0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:23.000 I feel this premium pit Bull letter. Right there, there 0:44:23.000 --> 0:44:23.279 you go. 0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:30.120 It feels like leather. Yeah, all right? 0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:33.480 Uh and then, uh, is there anything that we don't 0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:35.400 know about you that you love to share with us 0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:36.040 on this show? 0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:44.360 I think I basically said. I think I basically said everything. 0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:47.680 One thing I can just say is just like, be 0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:51.200 grateful every day you wake up, try to use try 0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:54.120 to maximize every day the most you can, and just 0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:57.480 spend time with friends and loved ones because you never know, 0:44:57.520 --> 0:44:59.120 and you don't want to be like, well what if this? 0:44:59.320 --> 0:44:59.640 What that? 0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:04.919 Do what you want to do, and you know you'll 0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:07.200 just be happier. That's really all I can say. That's 0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:08.440 why I can say about myself. 0:45:09.040 --> 0:45:13.719 And then circling back to the mental health stuff you said, 0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:19.239 bipolar schizophrenic, to my knowledge, doesn't schizophrenia like you can 0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:19.960 hear voices. 0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:22.239 Yeah, but it's like a lot of that stuff, man, 0:45:22.280 --> 0:45:25.000 I probably more likely when I think about it, it's 0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:26.960 like I probably never had it. A lot of it 0:45:27.120 --> 0:45:28.920 more likely just had something to do with stress. And 0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:30.600 you know what, anybody when comes to stress, it becomes 0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:33.560 a boiling point and just pops. You know what I'm saying, 0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:38.520 So to me to be honest is like it was 0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:41.080 probably just stress. But you know it's like people they 0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:42.720 gotta like diagnose you with something. 0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:46.680 Yeah, I at the age of I wanna say it 0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:50.040 was thirty. I had a very stressful thing. I was 0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:52.680 working with Nick. I was doing a lot of stuff 0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:55.200 way above what I should have been doing at the time, 0:45:55.239 --> 0:45:57.440 just juggling a lot not a lot of balance. And 0:45:57.480 --> 0:46:01.000 I had like a mental like psychosis and I got 0:46:01.000 --> 0:46:05.600 diagnosed PTSD schizophrenic with bipolar. They were like, she's all 0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:08.920 bat shit, like she's done, and I was. I was 0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:11.439 definitely checked out. I thought my brain was never gonna 0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:14.560 My whole family thought my brain was gone. But I 0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:17.759 went to in La. They had like a like a 0:46:17.960 --> 0:46:21.480 mental museum, and I went like five years prior and 0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:23.840 they had talked about like all these things they do 0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:27.520 back in the day to like help people with mental health. 0:46:27.520 --> 0:46:29.439 They were like shocking them and doing all these things, 0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:32.480 and I remember they ended up putting me in a 0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:36.640 psych word and I remember, like it's crazy up in 0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:38.799 there by the way fucking nuts. I woke up and 0:46:38.840 --> 0:46:42.480 I was like, whoa, I'm tripping, Like I need to 0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:44.800 get to the root of like what the fuck happened 0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:48.320 to like find out where I'm at, and they the 0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:51.360 patients were like, yo, just be careful because these doctors 0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:53.840 can diagnose you and give you a drug cocktail. 0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:56.640 You can end up in here like forever. 0:46:57.320 --> 0:47:01.479 And they were like tipping me off to like fuck 0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:02.879 around and get the wrong thing. 0:47:03.960 --> 0:47:05.080 This will be your life. 0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:08.080 And I'm thankful to the few patients that kind of 0:47:08.080 --> 0:47:10.520 were like, you know, why are you looking at me 0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:13.759 like that thinking I'm crazy? No, no, this is true story, 0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:19.760 so this will happened, true story. I had a trump 0:47:19.800 --> 0:47:22.520 traumatic childhood. I remember my dad came in my day. 0:47:22.800 --> 0:47:25.040 My dad my uncle was like call my dad, like 0:47:25.360 --> 0:47:27.600 you better come down here, like it's a rat for her, 0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:27.880 you know. 0:47:28.680 --> 0:47:31.560 And anyways, I was I think I. 0:47:31.560 --> 0:47:34.799 Was experiencing PTSD, but I didn't know I was experiencing 0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:38.279 it for so long before the episode until like, you know, 0:47:38.360 --> 0:47:40.360 they talked to you about the symptoms. You're like, oh, 0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:42.480 you know, I don't want to say this in front 0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:44.680 of the doctors, but some of the shit is kind 0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:48.600 of on point. Anyways, I fought the doctors on like 0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:50.120 it prescribing me all the drugs. 0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:52.120 I'm like, my mom was like just take whatever. To 0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:55.279 get out of there. I'm like, nah, Cuz this is 0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:55.760 my brain. 0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:59.319 This is my best asset, Like like I think, like 0:47:59.400 --> 0:48:01.880 my brain is more important than my looks, like take anything, 0:48:01.880 --> 0:48:02.960 but just don't take my brain. 0:48:03.480 --> 0:48:04.640 And so I fought them. 0:48:04.880 --> 0:48:07.000 They put me like that, had to see a judge. 0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:10.520 They made me like eat three meals a day. I 0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:13.960 had to sleep in that place, which was freaking nuts, 0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:17.120 and I went in front of a judge, Like obviously 0:48:17.160 --> 0:48:19.800 I came back. My brain came back. I had to sleep. 0:48:20.000 --> 0:48:22.400 And what I did learn about the whole situation is 0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:24.680 like sleep is very important to this day, Like if 0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:28.040 I'm so stressed out, I will get sleeping pills, NyQuil whatever. 0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:30.680 I don't play about sleep because I think it played 0:48:30.800 --> 0:48:34.879 a huge role into what happened. But I did fight them. 0:48:35.200 --> 0:48:37.080 I didn't take the drugs, and then my dad was 0:48:37.120 --> 0:48:40.520 like thanking me later, like yo, the side effects of 0:48:40.520 --> 0:48:43.120 those drugs would have like probably impaired me for life. 0:48:43.520 --> 0:48:45.879 And all it was was like just a lot of sleep. 0:48:45.920 --> 0:48:48.760 I mean they sedated me for like a whole twenty 0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:52.120 four hours, and that's obviously what helped me kind of 0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:56.360 come out of it. But I fought them and I 0:48:56.400 --> 0:48:59.839 remember the judge being like, yeah, So I was like, look, 0:48:59.840 --> 0:49:02.120 I'm a fully functioning girl in the real world. I'm like, 0:49:02.160 --> 0:49:05.360 I run my own company, I live by myself, like 0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:08.440 I pay all my bills like you know. And then 0:49:08.440 --> 0:49:10.040 I was threatening to sue them because I was like, 0:49:10.120 --> 0:49:12.520 you know, this place is like people are like raping 0:49:12.560 --> 0:49:14.480 each other up in here. Like I was like, I 0:49:14.480 --> 0:49:16.440 will sue all of you guys. And my dad was like, 0:49:16.480 --> 0:49:20.920 she's back, just free her, you know. But you know, 0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:22.960 so I kind of know a little bit about it, 0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:26.200 you know. But that's why I was asking about the 0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:29.279 whole It's like, you know, that's why I just say. 0:49:29.320 --> 0:49:33.359 It's just like if more people had more genuine people 0:49:33.400 --> 0:49:36.839 around them, you know what I'm saying, Like, people will 0:49:36.880 --> 0:49:39.120 be better, you know what I'm saying, Like, I don't 0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:42.000 care how busy I am. If you call me, I'll 0:49:42.080 --> 0:49:43.759 you know, I won't be able to talk much, but 0:49:43.800 --> 0:49:46.160 I'll listen to you while I'm drawing. You don't just 0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:49.000 need people need a vent. But it's too many people 0:49:49.080 --> 0:49:51.799 like saying like oh I don't I don't want that 0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:54.160 type of energy, what type of what type of energy? 0:49:54.680 --> 0:49:56.359 If you're that type of person you. 0:49:56.320 --> 0:49:58.480 Know they're not you know, like I kind of like 0:49:58.719 --> 0:50:02.000 feel sadden for you, Like it's like you don't got 0:50:02.040 --> 0:50:04.440 empathy for other people. That's partly the reason why you know, 0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:06.440 our country is like so messed up where it's like 0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:09.160 it's not about community no more. You know what I'm saying. 0:50:09.160 --> 0:50:09.640 I agree. 0:50:09.719 --> 0:50:12.400 I do have that one Aries friend that is like 0:50:12.480 --> 0:50:15.640 that who she'll be like her energy and her peace 0:50:15.680 --> 0:50:18.920 and she protects it or whatever. And I do feel 0:50:18.920 --> 0:50:21.960 like I'm an empathizer, so I'm gonna be like, well, 0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:24.160 maybe people call her all the time and that's why 0:50:24.200 --> 0:50:28.480 she doesn't like hearing things. But she's the only girlfriend 0:50:28.520 --> 0:50:30.200 of mine and she is an aries and I think 0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:33.120 she has the same birthday as you, and she'd be like, 0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:36.640 if it's not this, this, and this, I cannot hear it. 0:50:37.120 --> 0:50:38.120 Yeah, I don't care. 0:50:38.320 --> 0:50:40.759 Like if I can have several of my friends hit 0:50:40.840 --> 0:50:43.640 me up one day, like all in one day and 0:50:43.680 --> 0:50:45.640 they have any issue, that's that's what we hear for 0:50:45.680 --> 0:50:47.040 as humans, you know what I'm saying. I look at 0:50:47.080 --> 0:50:51.680 myself as like a guardian angel, like a healing angel 0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:53.600 for a lot of people. You know what I'm saying, 0:50:53.640 --> 0:50:56.440 it's like people come to my life for a season 0:50:57.440 --> 0:51:02.120 or or for a long time. You know, I'm here 0:51:02.160 --> 0:51:04.200 to heal, you know what I'm saying. I'm here to 0:51:04.280 --> 0:51:06.920 like inspire, you know what I'm saying. That's why i want, like, 0:51:07.120 --> 0:51:09.080 you know the real reason why I'm going so hard. 0:51:09.280 --> 0:51:11.160 I want to show kids that you don't just have 0:51:11.200 --> 0:51:14.160 to be a rapper or or you know what I'm saying, 0:51:14.200 --> 0:51:16.840 some type of entertainer or do sports in order to 0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:18.960 like to make money at what you do. You know 0:51:19.000 --> 0:51:20.799 what I'm saying, you can do is do art. Like 0:51:20.840 --> 0:51:23.640 how many people that we know that's like it's like 0:51:23.719 --> 0:51:27.040 well known like in mainstream and art. That's my That's 0:51:27.040 --> 0:51:29.520 why I inspire to be like I aspired to, you know, 0:51:29.640 --> 0:51:33.120 be like a entertainer artist like a stan Lee. Okay, 0:51:33.160 --> 0:51:35.040 so stan Lee was working to the day he died. 0:51:35.760 --> 0:51:38.400 And just so you know, that was the number one 0:51:38.440 --> 0:51:40.600 reason why I wanted you on this show because I 0:51:40.680 --> 0:51:42.680 was like, we have all these successful people and it's 0:51:42.719 --> 0:51:45.719 like you have your celebrities, you have your influencers. I 0:51:45.760 --> 0:51:49.680 love interviewing entrepreneurs, but I was just like this season, 0:51:49.719 --> 0:51:51.960 I was like, I want different genres. I don't want 0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:54.600 to see the same genre over and over. I was like, 0:51:54.640 --> 0:51:57.440 I have to have you. I'm glad you took the 0:51:57.520 --> 0:52:00.080 time out your day to come out here. I appreciate you, 0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:01.960 and I'm still a fan, even though I don't know 0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:05.719 all the lango Christ texting during his interview, So don't 0:52:05.719 --> 0:52:06.640 text you in an interview. 0:52:06.760 --> 0:52:07.600 All right, Thank you. 0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:10.239 Guys so much for tuning in. Thank you Justin for 0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:10.720 your time. 0:52:10.840 --> 0:52:11.840 Thank you. I appreciate it. 0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:13.040 I appreciate you too, man. 0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:16.080 Okay, and you know, hopefully next time i'll see you 0:52:16.120 --> 0:52:17.480 in life, you won't have the bonnet. 0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:19.480 My locks will officially be combed out. 0:52:19.480 --> 0:52:22.759 It's a mess up here, Okay, all right, guys, thank 0:52:22.840 --> 0:52:25.319 y'all for tuning in. And oh, before we close out, 0:52:25.480 --> 0:52:27.919 where can all of our listeners keep up with. 0:52:28.160 --> 0:52:36.800 Justin Instagram Justin Underscore rich Berg, TikTok Underscore, Justin Richberg, 0:52:37.719 --> 0:52:44.720 Twitter ex Underscored Justin Richberg YouTube Justin Richbert. 0:52:45.239 --> 0:52:46.480 You could just google Justin. 0:52:47.760 --> 0:52:48.920 Just google Justin Richberg. 0:52:49.560 --> 0:52:51.719 If you don't know how spelled my name, just just 0:52:51.719 --> 0:52:54.160 just sannding it out and chat GBT and chat chet 0:52:54.280 --> 0:52:55.480 will tell you all about me. 0:52:56.640 --> 0:52:59.280 Wow, I didn't know that I'm gonna do that, all right, cool? 0:52:59.640 --> 0:53:01.080 Thanks you all, Thanks for tuning in. 0:53:01.080 --> 0:53:18.520 Peace out. 0:53:20.440 --> 0:53:23.640 For more eating while Broke from iHeartRadio and The Black Effect, 0:53:23.840 --> 0:53:27.440 visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen 0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:28.560 to your favorite shows.