1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: I'm your host Coley Witt, and today we are out 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: of the studio in New York and I got a 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: nice little treat for us. We have special guests Justin 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: Richberg in the building. 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, and how do I say? I want to mess 7 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: it up again? And animator animator. 8 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 3: Animator, illustrator, writer loud mouth, I'll snitch. 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: I love it, I love it all. I've been tracking 10 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: Justin for some years. I was in his d MS 11 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: almost immediately, like all the time are you following, commenting, 12 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: trying to get an interview with you for a long time. 13 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: I think everything you do is pretty impressive and amazing, 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: Like literally looks like a gift from God. 15 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: Himself gave it to you. 16 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: So finally, what it took two years, two years a 17 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: cool manager to make this happen. You came in from Philly, 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, and I was like, what you're 19 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: gonna have us eating today? 20 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 2: You chose basic disc go ahead, tell everybody. 21 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we want to have take these glasses off, 22 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 3: thank you. Mm hmmm, so we want to have a 23 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 3: cup of noodles. 24 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: A couple of noodles. You guys were specific. You was 25 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: like Nissan Nissan. 26 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 3: Because listen, like you see the bonnet on. I came 27 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 3: in like we're gonna keep it straight hood today, you 28 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. 29 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: Okay, hood Megan, Okay, so let's pour some water in 30 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: this uh, this Nissan. I I literally was going around 31 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 1: the store like does it say that brand? 32 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 4: Does? 33 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: Is there a reason? A rhyme to the reason? 34 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, because like okay, you know, it means a lot 35 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 3: to me because like you know, I spend up like 36 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: late nights like doing my work and things like that. 37 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: You know, it's like one of the things like it's 38 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 3: always like there. You know what I'm saying, And it 39 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 3: means a lot. You know what I'm saying when you're 40 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 3: coming up and like you don't really got much you. 41 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:24,399 Speaker 2: Know that water that would be good. 42 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: So when you eat your noodles, do you like them 43 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: super soggy or kind of like noodley like hard? 44 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 5: I keep them like super soggy, you know what I'm saying. 45 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 3: Then after a while, I like to pour out the 46 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 3: water and like not all of it, and then you 47 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 3: know I like to dump some hot sauce in that john. 48 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, I go crazy with the 49 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: hot sauce sometimes, Like. 50 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: You didn't say that, you know the way you. 51 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 5: Know, it's one of the things. 52 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: Saying okay, okay, So take me back to what was 53 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: going on in the well what air, because I know 54 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: everyone still eats this right every once in a while. 55 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: You probably have a late ninety eat this right. 56 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so take me back to the beginning era 57 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: of you with the noodles, where it was a necessity. 58 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 5: I will say. 59 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 3: Where I start, I'd say like two thousand and fourteen, 60 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 3: cause you know I previously talked about like dealing with 61 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 3: like mental health issues, and when I started to get 62 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 3: my like my mind back, you know, I ended up 63 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 3: having like developed mental health issues, like straight out of 64 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 3: high school, and it got kind of severely worse around 65 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 3: like nineteen and then you know, like I was out 66 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: of it, like real bad. Like you know when you 67 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 3: see like those people walking around aimlessly in the streets. 68 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 3: I was like one of those people. But you know, 69 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 3: my mom so happened like to catch it early because 70 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 3: mental illness runs in my dad's side of the family. 71 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: When you say mental illness or can you are you 72 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: comfortable saying like what kind. 73 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 3: Because yeah, bipost cause friend I was you, I was 74 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: diagnosed by post gets a friend. You know, my mom 75 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 3: found me home one day and she ended up like 76 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 3: three or two in me, like to help me out. Luckily, 77 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 3: she really caught it early because the same thing happened 78 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 3: with one of my cousins on my dad's side, but 79 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 3: she was fourteen, but her mom didn't pay attention to it. 80 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 3: And now like to this day, she's like fifty something 81 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: years old, and you know she needs people to take 82 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 3: care of her. That could easily have been me, and 83 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 3: my mom didn't catch it early. You know, I like, 84 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 3: I give all grace. 85 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 5: To my mom. 86 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: But schizophrenia, I thought that it comes later. No, for 87 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: some reason, I thought it comes like at like around 88 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: like early. 89 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 5: I think what I think? What does? 90 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 3: Like it comes from stress and not talking. You know 91 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 3: what I'm saying because like my stepfather, he had died 92 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 3: when I was ten years old, and you know, it's 93 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 3: like I used to be like a bubbly purse, a 94 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 3: little bubbly kid and things like that, and then you 95 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 3: know it's like I just became like super mildtone and 96 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 3: stopped caring about life. 97 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 5: So it's like a ten year old. 98 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I gave up on life at like ten year 99 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 3: years old, but you know, he was my everything. And 100 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 3: then like the way he passed, you know, and I 101 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 3: didn't get a chance to see him like get buried. 102 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 3: So just like all that time, and they know, it's 103 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: like as you're not yourself no more, so you allow 104 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: people to bully you and things like that. And you know, 105 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 3: but through that whole time, I was drawing. That's all 106 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 3: I cared about, you know what I'm saying, Like it 107 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 3: got like really bad. Like as soon as like seventh 108 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 3: grade came around, they put me like in the LD classes. 109 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 3: So I was in there from like all learn disability. Yeah, 110 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 3: so they put they put they put you, they put 111 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: you in they put me in there. But the only 112 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 3: thing I kept on doing was just drawing. That was 113 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: a thing that was like keeping me like going. But 114 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 3: you know, but I wasn't talking to nobody. My mom 115 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 3: tried to get me talk to therapists and things like that, 116 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 3: but it wasn't working. And then you know, all that 117 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 3: like accumulated and then boom just blowed at that point 118 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 3: and then. 119 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: Uh, and what was everyone saying about your drawings at 120 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: the time? Where they were they as great as they were. 121 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 3: You know, it's like you know people say like, oh 122 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 3: that's cool, Oh draw me. No, people wasn't like really 123 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: like you know, thinking like too much about it because 124 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: you know, everybody draws, because it's not like one of 125 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 3: those things that people think it's like a career path 126 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 3: you can take. 127 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 5: You get what I'm saying. 128 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, but some kids, like even I'll see, like I 129 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: have a three year old, but I'll see like some 130 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: kids like my daughter, I'm not trying to throw shade, 131 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,799 Speaker 1: but like I don't think she has like the little artist, 132 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: but because she just scribbles all over things. But I 133 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: see some kids where they color in the lines really early, 134 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh. 135 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: Shit, what's that. 136 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't know. I just know like 137 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: from my vibecane, you know, like I grew up in 138 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 3: North Philly. I went to Gillespie and then Simon Gratz 139 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,679 Speaker 3: and then you know, it's like those schools are basically 140 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 3: like I can saider them like kind of like prisons 141 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 3: that you stay in from you know what I'm saying, 142 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 3: from like seven to like three wing and get out. 143 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 4: Wow. 144 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I consider it as at least like 145 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 3: for my interpretation of it when I was paying attention. 146 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: But I just was just drawing, you know what I'm saying, 147 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 3: and they know it's like you know, after you know, 148 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 3: like the whole incident happened, because I couldn't tell you 149 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: what I was doing from nineteen to twenty two. The 150 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: only thing I remember was when I did come to. 151 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 3: I woke up on one of those like mentally come 152 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 3: trying to like put it in your head visually, because 153 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 3: like just imagine nineteenth birthday and then like in the 154 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 3: instant and you're blink and then you're on like windows 155 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 3: like white buses with all the other mentally challenged people. 156 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 3: Oh my god, and I'm looking around trying to figure 157 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 3: out what's going on. And then you know, as you know, 158 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 3: as I figured out, oh, this is my reality, you know. 159 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 3: And then at this point too, I was three hundred 160 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 3: pounds because of the medication that kept put me on 161 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 3: with all the water weight, and you know that's when 162 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 3: you know, drawing was still a thing I was still 163 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 3: doing that was keeping me like bringing me slowly together 164 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: as my mind came back. 165 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 5: And also too, you know. 166 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: I had like good friends like around the way that 167 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:01,119 Speaker 3: was always there for me, and that's honestly what brought 168 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 3: me back. That's why I'm always like strong on like 169 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 3: community and friends, because you know, it's like, if we 170 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 3: had more like real people around us, we wouldn't need 171 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 3: therapists and things like that. One thing you needed, just 172 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 3: somebody to talk to, Like you know, like when you 173 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 3: talk to some people, it's like, oh, I don't want 174 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: to I need to keep my peace. I don't want 175 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 3: to have you get to me and things like that, 176 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: you know, like none to ask niggas like that. You 177 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. It's like, if you have more 178 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 3: I know what to talk about. That's so sad, but 179 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 3: I do. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying, Cause 180 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: it's like those ain't like real like people. You know, 181 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 3: they're like people at the moment. They won't be around 182 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 3: forever anyway. But it's like, if people have more people 183 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 3: like that, you know what I'm saying, It's like we 184 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 3: wouldn't need therapists and things like that. 185 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 5: Always give a salute to John j R. 186 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: Alvin Daryl Reggie, you know, of course, my mom, you 187 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, and you always give them salot 188 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 3: and then you know as we come to this, you know, 189 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 3: I was like eating you know what I'm saying, eating 190 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 3: cup noodles a lot while I draw. You know, it's 191 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 3: like it was just quick to make you know what 192 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: I'm saying, while I just stay on my computer. 193 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 5: And just draw. 194 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 3: So yeah, and that's what kept That's what kept me going. 195 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 3: That's why this is so like monumental to me, because 196 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 3: I didn't, like necessary grow up in a bad household 197 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 3: my mom, you know what I'm saying. She, you know, 198 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 3: worked he stuff to death basically to like keep me comfortable. 199 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: Did you have any other siblings or just. 200 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 5: No, only child? 201 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 3: I got a half brother and half sister, but I 202 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 3: don't I don't really speak with them. 203 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 2: Okay, are they older? Yeah, big age gap, age gap. 204 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: Okay, so your mom's like a single mom after your dad? 205 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, my my, but then my uh my real father. 206 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: He came into my life like around thirteen, but he 207 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 3: didn't make things better. He made things worse. He just 208 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 3: passed this year. You know, I love him, but you 209 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 3: know it's like you know, alcohol and everything else. You 210 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like, you love that more than 211 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 3: you know you loved your own son. So I don't know. 212 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 2: So did you ever tell him that. 213 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 3: I mean, it's only so much you can talk to 214 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 3: a person, you know. I don't know, It's just it's 215 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 3: just a sad thought one just like think about that. 216 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 3: But yeah, even even back then, when I think about 217 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 3: it now, I was like eating cup noodles then, like 218 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 3: when he would like leave me in the apartment to go, 219 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 3: Like I remember one one night we were near a 220 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 3: supermarket and he had like a forty ounce and I 221 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,599 Speaker 3: was like probably twelve or thirteen, and you know, I 222 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 3: didn't wanted to drink. So you know, it's like when 223 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 3: he went into the supermarket, I grabbed a bottle and 224 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 3: then put it out on the not I didn't throw 225 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 3: it out by just like rolled it out of the 226 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 3: car because you know, I didn't want to have it 227 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 3: make a lot of noise. And then we came back 228 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 3: to the apartment. He made me cup noodles, and then 229 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 3: he couldn't find it, and then he left me in 230 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 3: the apartment for hours on end, looking looking for his 231 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 3: looking for his bottles. 232 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, and during all this you're still drawing. 233 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so you get out, let's be so what 234 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: what age do you get out? Of the mental Uh, 235 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: twenty two twenty two, okay, and what year is this? 236 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 5: I think I think twenty twelve. 237 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: Twenty twelve, so between twenty twelve because I found out 238 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: about you probably like on the cusp of the pandemic, right, yeah, 239 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: which obviously you've been rolling. But when did you start 240 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: seeing like an uptick in your. 241 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: Art two twenty thirteen, two thousand. 242 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: Oh you started posting it that? 243 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 4: That? 244 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I started. I started out. I started on Facebook 245 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 3: because like there was a guy that discovered me on 246 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: Facebook and then was Trizzy the Mouth. It was like 247 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 3: one of my first managers. Like, you know, he's a 248 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 3: real good guy. You taught me like how to you know, uh, 249 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 3: real people in with the art. So just like its 250 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 3: first time me saying this, but it's like all right, 251 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 3: say it. 252 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 5: All right. 253 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 3: So it's like the way I do my art is 254 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 3: like how a pimp reals in women. I'm so I'm 255 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 3: being by being dead serious. I'm being dead serious. I'm 256 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 3: being I'm being dead serious because this is the way 257 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 3: I was. It's like you get get them, you get 258 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 3: them comfortable, you know what I'm saying, and then like 259 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 3: once you get them to a certain point, then you 260 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 3: can start asking for favors and things like that. You know, 261 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 3: like I'm like a manipulator. But you know, the only 262 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 3: reason I gave that example because I was around people 263 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 3: like that, And that's the best example I can give 264 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 3: right right now off top of hip. 265 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: Well, I guess if your father was also like in addiction, 266 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: I'm pretty are manipulation, you know, Like. 267 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 3: You know, I grew up in like North Philly hang 268 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 3: out like a whole bunch of like different characters, you 269 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So just like it's just a 270 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 3: whole people I don't hang out with now because like 271 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 3: you know, those people only like last for a certain 272 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 3: period of time, you know what I'm saying. You know, 273 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 3: It's like I known people that got killed all types 274 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 3: of all types of ship like that you saying. That's 275 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 3: why it's like, you know, it's like you know, it's 276 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 3: like it's a lot of those things like motivates to like, 277 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 3: all right, I don't want to be around these people. 278 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: I just want to just draw and you know, and 279 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 3: that's when I started, like you know, posting things on Facebook. 280 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 3: And then like I said, it's like I started learning 281 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 3: like okay, Like okay, I understand Oh, like this makes 282 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 3: people react like this, This makes people react like that. 283 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 3: So you know, a lot is like trial and error, 284 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Then while like you know, 285 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: like understanding like oh, you need a team of people 286 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 3: to help out, and you know, like he put that 287 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 3: mindset in my heads, like you know, you need a 288 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 3: team of people to do things, you know what I'm saying. 289 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: And you know what kind of things was he talking 290 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: about just on the management side, because he was trying 291 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: to manage you or. 292 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes he was because like he was 293 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 3: he wasn't manager for a period of time. But it's 294 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 3: just like try on error, you know what I'm saying. 295 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 3: That's really about it. Just try and error until you 296 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 3: just figure things out, you know what I'm saying, because 297 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 3: like I don't know, it's hard, it's hard to it's 298 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 3: like really just trying to error to figure out what. 299 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 5: People want, you know, get feedback. 300 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: From people you're like paying attention to, like the numbers, 301 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: the comments everything. 302 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then that's when I started to develop like 303 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 3: a business mind. So but you know the issue is 304 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 3: with that when you like developing a business mind and 305 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 3: then you're also creative and start to clash. Like after 306 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 3: a while, you start to think too much about a 307 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 3: lot of things, and then you know you also learn 308 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 3: like who to trust and not to trust when you 309 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 3: send things out to people. So like, well this around, 310 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 3: like I think twenty fifteen, I think I was like 311 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 3: really into like you know, asking people, hey, what you think, 312 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 3: what you think? What you think, and then for. 313 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: You before you post or yeah, before I post. 314 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 3: But then I stopped doing that, like stop being so 315 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 3: trusting in people because I started getting like a bad 316 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 3: name about myself, like on the internet, because all right, 317 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 3: boom right. So I was doing this drawing of there 318 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 3: was a topic drawing. I like doing topic drawings or 319 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 3: like real stuff. So you know, it's like it was 320 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 3: like a simple thing. 321 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 4: You know. 322 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 3: It's like you see like some parents like they brag 323 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 3: about like yo, oh my kid can do this and 324 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 3: that when they're baby, you know what I'm saying, but 325 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 3: then like they're trying to growing up and just like 326 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: just be like. 327 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 5: Just a nobody. 328 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, but the drawing wasn't done and the person put 329 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 3: me out there to. 330 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 5: Be a colorist for whatever reason. 331 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's why I just stopped like sharing things 332 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 3: with people for something that's done, and then it got 333 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 3: like real bad on Twitter and people will start this 334 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 3: when you start like understanding like how people try to 335 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: cancel people, Yeah, and it's like try to separate. Oh 336 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 3: he puts light skinned women in this light and put 337 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 3: dark skinned women in dislight. 338 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 5: It was like it was real bad. 339 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 3: It was like you know, normally on the internet like 340 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 3: things like last like three days a week back, this 341 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 3: lasts like for a whole month. 342 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 5: It was real. It was real bad. 343 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: And then how do you react when you see those 344 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: negative comments? Do you do? You do you internalize them? 345 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 3: Or when you first start dealing with that Because I'm 346 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: a type of person things don't bother me. But it's 347 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 3: like when it's constantly in your face over and over 348 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 3: and over, it will start to get to you. And 349 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 3: you know that is what and from what from something 350 00:15:58,280 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 3: like that happened to me that inspired me, like to 351 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 3: me my first character Kayla, Kayla. 352 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 4: Kyla. 353 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: Kyla. 354 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I got into that and I like that 355 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: pivot there. I like that pivot. So you get into Kaylea. 356 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: But now we're in twenty twenty four and you're just 357 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: now are you just now releasing Kayla? 358 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 4: Right? 359 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 3: Now, No, I've been I've been putting I've been putting 360 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 3: the character out since two thousand and nineteen. 361 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 5: But you know, I was like slowly working on it. 362 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 5: You know. 363 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 3: It's like I'm a kind of perfectionist in a way. 364 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 4: You know. 365 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 3: It's like I said, like the business mind, I want 366 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 3: to know, okay, what works for this and that. You 367 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, a lot of times you only 368 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 3: got like the first impression. Yeah, a lot of times 369 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 3: we don't get a lot of do overs. So like 370 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 3: to go into like explain Kayla. You know, it's like 371 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 3: it's made for like people that love manga and anime, 372 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 3: so something like specific like she's meant for the showing 373 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 3: and jump like demographic. And then I say, like the 374 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 3: shownan jump demographic basically shown jump means like comics for 375 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 3: teenage boys in Japanese basically, And you know, when I 376 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 3: see you online, you know, everybody loves the moon docks 377 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 3: and things like that, you know, and I was like 378 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 3: the only thing, what's the last thing we had was 379 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 3: the Boon docks. I'm like, all right, let me just 380 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 3: make something like that. And my first showed Kayla to 381 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 3: Charlemagne and what did he think he liked it? But 382 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 3: you know, it's like it just I guess it just 383 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 3: wasn't ready, so so, you know, and then after a while, 384 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 3: like around the pandemic, I decided like, or I'll just 385 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 3: start like making books, you know, making chapters. I felt 386 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 3: nineteen chapters through the course of like a year or two. 387 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 3: And when I felt the first chapter, NBC reached out 388 00:17:53,920 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 3: to me. Complex the Complex website, uh, Netflix, this animation 389 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 3: studio called Powerhouse that made he Man in Castlevania, And. 390 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 2: What are you thinking when they're reaching out to you? 391 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 3: It was it was, it was, it was amazing. But 392 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 3: then like you start to realize, like you start understanding 393 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 3: like this field, it's like people will reach out to you, 394 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 3: but not like to immediately help you out there, just 395 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 3: want to wait and see, you know. And that's like 396 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 3: and then you know, like once you get into like 397 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 3: things like that, you know, it's like. 398 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 5: You questioned it at first. It's like it's my. 399 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 3: Stuff not good, it's not good enough, Like what's it missing? 400 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 3: It's like just people just waiting for something to happen, 401 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 3: to reach to you. Were they even giving you direction though? 402 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 3: When they're waiting, No, it's like I even talked to 403 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: like one of the creators of the moon Docks. It 404 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 3: was like that that was a that was a high 405 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 3: for me other than like I mean, I mean, I mean, 406 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 3: I had multiple highs. I did animated commercial Italian what 407 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 3: was it? Italian commercial? He has a Titian amate commercial 408 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 3: for McDonald's. I did the Breakfast Club art studio. 409 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: Then backtrack, how did you end up first crossing past 410 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: with Charlotte Magne. 411 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 3: He was following me for a little bit and then 412 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 3: I put out this drawing called Dice Game. And then 413 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 3: once Dice Game came out, Charlomagne shared it, but he 414 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 3: shared it in a sarcastic way. But you know, when 415 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 3: you're reading sarcasm, you think somebody's really angry about it 416 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 3: type shit, you know what I'm saying. And then it's 417 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 3: up spreading around. And then Donald Glover in the reaching 418 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 3: out to me and he ended up putting I mean 419 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 3: it's people did, and then he ended up putting it 420 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 3: on Atlanta. Yeah, the art working up on Atlanta, and 421 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 3: then he asked me to like work on feel Like 422 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 3: Summer Video and that was my first like job that 423 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 3: like you know, started everything. 424 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: And what was what was your like thought process, Like 425 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: when you're getting this first gig, I was, how are 426 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: you sitting? 427 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 2: Where were you doing? 428 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 3: What was that I was in? I was in Pittsburgh, PA, 429 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 3: on the farm dating a mixed race girl, stressing, stressing 430 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 3: the funk. 431 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 2: Out over the girl. 432 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 5: She was yelling at me and all that she had 433 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 5: anger issues. 434 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 2: That's hilarious. 435 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I loved it though, but that's all I always 436 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 3: ended up running to mean girls. 437 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 2: Okay, so you're MPa. 438 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: You get this call Pittsburg, Pittsburgh in the middle of nowhere, 439 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere, Yes, on a farm, on 440 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: a farm. 441 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 3: With a tornado warning going on, by the way, You. 442 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 1: Get this call in the shade in the shed, okay, 443 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: and what are you thinking? Are you thinking like I 444 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: don't belong here, Like this is not where I'm meant 445 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: to be when you get that call. 446 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 5: I don't know, it's kind of weird to say. 447 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 3: It's like, I don't really get too excited about a 448 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 3: lot of things because those prior things I told you about, 449 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 3: So you know what I'm saying, Like I believe it 450 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 3: wants to start. And then once he paid me, like 451 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 3: my first half, I was like, oh shit, this is 452 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 3: a thing. 453 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 2: And this was like even when you got the contract before, 454 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 2: you weren't. 455 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 3: Like you know, people give you contracts and then like 456 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 3: things don't start, you know. But yeah, I was super 457 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 3: excited and then I didn't think about I didn't bring 458 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 3: my computer or nothing because I was just. 459 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: On, like, you're hilarious. 460 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 3: I was. 461 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 5: I was. I was on a bake. I was on 462 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 5: a vacation. 463 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 4: I was. 464 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 5: I was on the baking. 465 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 3: You were just visiting her, Yeah, I just I was 466 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 3: just forcefully had had to go. I'll talk about that 467 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 3: another time. But anyway, all right, so boom right the empery. Yeah, 468 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 3: but anyway, I had to improvise, right, so boom right, 469 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 3: I had to. I was saying, like, yo, what we 470 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 3: gotta go to the store. I just got like a 471 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 3: whole bunch of paper and just drew out all the 472 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 3: characters minu right. It was like I think it was 473 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 3: about like sixty nine like characters. I had to drew 474 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 3: for the not just like one angle, a couple of 475 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 3: angles too. That was like vicious crazy, yeah, all on 476 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 3: all on paper. I think that was like when when 477 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 3: that bio came out two thousand and eight, So yeah, 478 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 3: two thousand eighteen eighteen. It was like really the last 479 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 3: time I really drew on paper like that before I 480 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 3: went like fully digital, Like yeah, it was like I 481 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 3: knocked that drawn. I only had like two weeks to 482 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 3: like finish everything in like sixty like all those drawings. 483 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 2: Who was the first question you call? You get the call? 484 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 2: Did you call your mom? 485 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 4: No? 486 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 3: I wouldn't think about it. I just went like into 487 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 3: work Yeah, went to work mode. 488 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: Wow, I'm saying because like different. 489 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, cause ragging going on? No, cause like you know this, 490 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 3: this is a passion of minds. I didn't know that, 491 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 3: Like you know, I end up getting discovered by a 492 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 3: manager off of Facebook of all that is like I 493 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 3: would never known that. Like people want paid me money 494 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 3: to do these things, like it's a blessing. It's like 495 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 3: this is myself. 496 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: Was the check looking like if you don't mind. 497 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 3: It was, I got paid eight thousand dollars. That was first, 498 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 3: Like that was like my first big check. But then 499 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 3: like the thing that came from it though, is like 500 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: people think that you're rich off of doing just like 501 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 3: one thing like that was the weird thing. 502 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 2: And you had a manager then uh, why I mean you. 503 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 5: Make eighteen This was privately. Yeah, it was right before. 504 00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 3: That was right before I met him, and uh, but 505 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 3: the biggest thing I took away from that once I did, 506 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 3: like meet meet him, like, I do multiple things. 507 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 5: You know, I write. You know what I'm saying, Like, 508 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 5: I literally, I literally do like everything. 509 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 3: You're a great writer too, Yeah, thank you, and you 510 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 3: know because he does a lot of things too. And uh, 511 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 3: when I went backstage to talk to him about that, 512 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 3: he just told me this is the biggest advice. I 513 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 3: didn't believe him at the time, but now I understand. 514 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 3: You just said, do it work for you, like in 515 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 3: the moment, and then once it slows down, go on 516 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 3: to the other things. I didn't understand that at first. 517 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,479 Speaker 2: It was like Don Glover, OK, yeah, okay, that's good advice. 518 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I didn't believe him at first. I was 519 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 3: like him, like, nah, like that, that can't be true. 520 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 3: You can do everything, but no, you eventually have burnout. 521 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 3: So so yeah, so you do the project. Did you 522 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 3: end up getting any burnout? 523 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 4: No? 524 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 3: Like, because I was like, I was on ten because 525 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 3: after that, you know, that's when I met Charlotmagne and 526 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 3: then I got to be on the Brilliant Idiots twice. 527 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 3: That was that was a big thing twice, and I 528 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 3: got like like one of the biggest moments on uh 529 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 3: when I first went on there, because I just be saying, 530 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 3: like there's anything out of my mouth for like a 531 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 3: lot of times, especially like when you get like moments 532 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 3: like that, it's like, oh, I'm probably not gonna have 533 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 3: another chance. Let me just say some nuts ship just 534 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 3: like just to get people talking, because it's one thing 535 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 3: I know I do. I know I get people's attention. 536 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 3: So I'm like, all right, let me just do that. 537 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 3: I know, like people work type I'm saying. And then yeah, 538 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 3: every and then after that, everything start to like pile on. 539 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 3: Like I said, like I did like a lot of jobs. 540 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 3: I did something for Tree songs like and make commercial 541 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 3: trade song, did something for Bobby's murder, even even like 542 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 3: till now, like doing something for a new balance the army, and. 543 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: They're reaching out. I'm is your manager working the phones 544 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: NonStop too. 545 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 3: But of course but then also too, they just naturally 546 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 3: reached out to me because I put out product that 547 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 3: people you know what I'm saying. 548 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 5: And now right now I'm in. 549 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 3: The point in my life where it's like I'm trying 550 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 3: to package it because you know my end goals, I 551 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 3: want my own movie studio. Okay, yeah, so that's what 552 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 3: I really want. 553 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 5: So it's like right now, it's a pivotal time. 554 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 3: That's why I like my character Kla is so important 555 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 3: because trying to show that I know how to make 556 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 3: products that people want to buy. Like I said, I 557 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 3: put out nineteen chapters like during the pandemic through that 558 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 3: whole year, Like I said, all those people reached out 559 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 3: to me in the beginning, you know what I'm saying. 560 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 5: So I did that first. 561 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 3: So it's like once I start doing the animations, like 562 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 3: people have like things so they can get hooked on, 563 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 3: and then you know, her following start to go up 564 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 3: because she has seventy thousand followers on Instagram almost ten 565 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 3: thousand one TikTok and like a lot of stuff go viral. 566 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 5: Like you know what I'm saying. I love it. 567 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 4: You know. 568 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 3: It's like my whole thing is like I really want, 569 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 3: like you know, black girls to be like represented in 570 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 3: that field authentically. That's why I came in authentically with 571 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 3: buying on authentically. 572 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 2: Let's see if the is soft. 573 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 3: There's another reason for that too, because like last month. 574 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 3: It was like, basedly the worst month of my life 575 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 3: honestly because uh, I started so I don't know the 576 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 3: best way to put this. So I started developing heart problems. 577 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: I seen that online, like a little bit of it. 578 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: I was scrolling why this will affect it? 579 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 5: Mm hmm. 580 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: No. 581 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 3: But it's my first time like touching it in like 582 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 3: a couple of months, which is sad. Made me sad 583 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 3: because so I ran to my ex recently. She wanted 584 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 3: to meet up with me. Yeah, I was no, no, 585 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 3: and you know, I was relucted. I was reluctant at first. 586 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 3: It's like, why do you want to meet up with me? 587 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 3: And like all right, and then we and then we're 588 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 3: chilling by the closure, yeah, by the art museum and 589 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 3: Philly type type time you I'm saying. She gave me 590 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 3: a hug, right, and she was like, oh, like your 591 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 3: heart is beating fast. You must miss me. I'm like, 592 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 3: we're talking about. 593 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 2: And then your stories are good? 594 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, And then the next day and then next day, 595 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 3: you know, I started feeling like these hard ass heart 596 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 3: I never noticed my heart beat before. It's like boom boom, 597 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 3: like it's feeling beating out my chest. Yeah, and then 598 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 3: you know, I said up, I ended up going to 599 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 3: the doctor, and then he ended up telling me go 600 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 3: to like the ear nose and throat doctor, and you know, 601 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 3: I go to the you know, do the cat scans 602 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 3: or whatever the heart layer on in the month type ship. 603 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 3: And then you know, I go to ear nose and 604 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 3: throw doctor. I've been hearing like a posting sound in 605 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 3: my in my left ear. So I ended up finding 606 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 3: out that I ended up losing like slight hearing loss 607 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 3: in my left ear. You know, I hear the heart 608 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 3: beat sound in my left ear. And then I went 609 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 3: to the you know, after I next went to the 610 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 3: throat doctors opened up my mouth. The nurse went like 611 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,719 Speaker 3: oh wow, and then immediately brung in the doctor and 612 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 3: the other nurses and I had like a uh, I 613 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 3: don't know I was called, but was like I think 614 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 3: a pulp or something like that. It's like a little 615 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 3: ball like being back in your mouth. And you know, 616 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 3: he was being like really nonchalant about it. It was like 617 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 3: kind of weird, and he's like, you know, we can 618 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 3: cut it out if you want, but we don't. 619 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, it's up to you. I 620 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 5: was like just cut it out and then cut. 621 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 3: It out and and then a couple of days later, 622 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 3: That's why I made my posts. So I thought like 623 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 3: my mouth was dry when I was waking up, but 624 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 3: then end up going to the bathroom and to find 625 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 3: out like my mouth was like. 626 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 2: Full on black. 627 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 3: That's how much blood was like coming out of my mouth. 628 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 5: And then I got rushed to the er. 629 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, because the wound had like bust open and from 630 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 3: them cutting it out. No, this was a couple days 631 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 3: after it was healing. I wasn't allowed to eat anything. 632 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 3: So this whole so like this whole month just passed 633 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 3: like like I couldn't eat solid food or nothing like 634 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 3: that type. And then you know, it took them from 635 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 3: like whether it was like six in the morning until 636 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 3: three pm for them to stop the bleeding. But this 637 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 3: whole time, you know, my mom was there with me. 638 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 3: My whole right side was turning cold. The security guard 639 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 3: at the hospital kept on trying to get me to 640 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 3: sit down, kept on telling like, no, if I sit down, 641 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 3: I'm not waking up. And that was right because when 642 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 3: the nurses came into the drawing the sea me. So 643 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 3: I sat down, my head was like like that type 644 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 3: ship like kep going up, like because I lost a 645 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 3: lot of blood. Jesus, yeah, I lost I lost a lot. 646 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 2: So it's like your first real Yeah, it was. 647 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 5: Like a first real scare. 648 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 3: I mean think about you can say technically, because you know, 649 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 3: the mental health stuff happened early on and then this 650 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 3: next and then you. 651 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 5: Know, it's like I went back up. 652 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 3: You know, they finished, they fixed everything, you know what 653 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 3: I'm saying, got the bleeding and stopping all that, and 654 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 3: then you know, I ended up going back to you know, 655 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 3: the doctor next week, told them about it and things 656 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 3: like that, and it's like, oh, that's not supposed to happen. Like, no, ship, 657 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 3: that's not supposed to fucking happen, dickad you know what 658 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 3: I'm saying. But but yeah, and then he's gonna drop 659 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 3: a bombshell on me. Oh yeah, so tests came back 660 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 3: you don't got cancer, and like cancer, Like, how you 661 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 3: gonna leave that away from somebody, you know what I'm saying, 662 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 3: at least tell me about it. 663 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 2: What did they say? 664 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 3: It was basically from something like that. It's like that's 665 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 3: how basically cancer would start, oh through mouth, like with 666 00:29:58,680 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 3: that pulp in the back of your mouth. 667 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 668 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 3: So I always tell everybody just go to the doctor's 669 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 3: type time. You know what I'm saying, because you never know. Yeah, 670 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. 671 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: So is this your first official like meal from drinking 672 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: slurpees or something? 673 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 5: No? 674 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no milkshakes, no, no no, because 675 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 3: it's like it's still it's still a lot going on. 676 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 3: Because then like after after that, went to the heart 677 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 3: doctor and the final out, I got like heart pomplitation something, 678 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 3: so it's like rapidly start beating type ship and then 679 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 3: he heard like a clicking sound there. So I still 680 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 3: got to do more testing and things like that and 681 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 3: also find out, oh after. 682 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 5: All that, oh you got high you got high cholesterol. 683 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 3: Now after all that, so it's like the other thing 684 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 3: that made me sad because it's like I really can't 685 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 3: do what I want to do. So, like you know 686 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So it's like it's like it's really 687 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 3: frush straight. 688 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 2: You'll fit right in with the vegetable eaters. Yeah, the 689 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 2: no salts and sugar people. 690 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 5: Don't know y'all do it? 691 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 2: Well, I don't do it. 692 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 5: I was. 693 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 3: I was when I found out that I can't you 694 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 3: can't eat this. You can't drink that. I was crying. 695 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 3: I was swinging like I got and take this no. 696 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: More, no need Jesus, we need to have you around. 697 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: So you better eat all the vegetables and the salads, y'all. 698 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: I could tell your crew thorough. The manager, he's probably 699 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: every time you look at a steak, he's probably he's 700 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: a sad. 701 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 2: Here's some oatmeal I pulled. 702 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 5: I pulled stick out my back pocket and eat it. 703 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 2: Oh no, I don't know. So during this whole, like. 704 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: This career, were there any dips, like real solid dips 705 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: in between. 706 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 3: I'm currently going through a dip right now. 707 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 2: Really. 708 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 709 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 3: So it's like last year I made like one hundred 710 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 3: grand through uh commission work. But then AI came around, 711 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 3: and that's the big thing that you know, it's like 712 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 3: messing up with AI too. 713 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, what happened? 714 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 3: What happened? 715 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 2: What AI doing to you? 716 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 3: You know, people think that like you can do everything 717 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 3: through AI, which isn't you know, because you know the 718 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 3: way these companies do, they like make everything seem like 719 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 3: it's really that way, really isn't you know what I'm saying. 720 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 3: And now people starting to come back along and it's 721 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 3: like all right, like these things really can't do. And 722 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 3: then plus people want that authentic feeling even more. 723 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, how are they going to AI like your level 724 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: of creativity? Though, I mean, I guess it's I guess 725 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: it's semi possible, but yeah, you would miss a lot 726 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: of the authenticity. 727 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 5: I mean, it can't. You know what I'm saying. It can't. 728 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 3: You're always gonna need that human touch because don't get 729 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 3: me wrong, it's like I like AI. I like AI too, 730 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 3: but it's saying, but I only use it to like 731 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 3: what it's supposed to be used for. It is like 732 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 3: a background tool, not something to replace, like say, like 733 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 3: if I'm writing a script or something like that, right, 734 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 3: I'll uh have it cleaned up for me a script 735 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 3: form for I show it to somebody. That's how That's 736 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 3: how you're supposed to use it. You know what I'm saying. 737 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 3: It's a lot of And then like, man, it's like, 738 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 3: so you're saying. 739 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 2: Your dip is coming from the AI. 740 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 3: It was Now it's picking up. But the thing I 741 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 3: was about to go on about AI, the thing that 742 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 3: makes it so sad about AI, Like in the creative field, 743 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 3: you don't know who's talented. 744 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 5: Because people rely on it so much. 745 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 3: So say that for example, right, like me, I can 746 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 3: come over a concept or something and then draw it 747 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 3: out right and show somebody like I'll show like a 748 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 3: quick sketch like Okay, this's the example of what you 749 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 3: should do, but do it in your way, interpret in 750 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 3: your way. But because of AI, a lot of these 751 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 3: people can't even do that. They're just literally like because 752 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 3: what you can do with AI is like, okay, I'll 753 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 3: take a road light sketch of something like it, say like, 754 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 3: I'll like make a bullshit image of this room and 755 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 3: then you know, put into one of the prompts, type 756 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 3: in the prompt and then boom, it'll make it for you. Right, 757 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 3: But when it comes to animation, you really can't do that, 758 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, SEC you do three D 759 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 3: or something like that, right, It's like, if I'm asking 760 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 3: you to do something that's really like detail oriented, you're 761 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 3: not gonna be able to do it because A I 762 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 3: don't allow those things like that because AI spew out 763 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 3: random images so you so. 764 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: It's never always it's never even perfect or AI it's 765 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: not consistent either. 766 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 3: Because like it's just taking from things on the why. 767 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: Your business picking back up. They tried it and they 768 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:08,439 Speaker 1: realized it wasn't. 769 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but it's not. 770 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 3: It's not just them you're talking about when you're just 771 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 3: trying to find the right people to fit your team. 772 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 3: So because of that, it makes it harder to find 773 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 3: the right people, especially like when you end up like 774 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 3: getting a relationship with these people you like them that 775 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 3: get in the final Wow, man, like you you're fraud 776 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. 777 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: So, like, if you're working with a company and they 778 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: have their own team, you're working with them, you find 779 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: out that maybe they're not no, no. 780 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 3: No, it's like this okay, So like these companies will 781 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 3: reach out to you and they know you got your 782 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 3: own team of artists that work with you. 783 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 2: Right, so you have your own team, Yeah, I. 784 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:40,760 Speaker 5: Got my own team like animators. 785 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 3: But the issue is with that, it's like I don't 786 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 3: know that they don't use AIS. So now I ask 787 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 3: a question, do you rely on AI a lot? 788 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 5: Because you do? I can't. 789 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 3: I can't rock with you because you're not a creative 790 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 3: and because that you'll end up making me look bad 791 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 3: and I got to take over your work. 792 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: But now, how do you wouldn't they just lie. Huh, 793 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't they just lie? 794 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 5: What do you mean by lie? 795 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: Like and just say that they they wouldn't they just 796 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: lie and just be like Yeah, I don't use AI 797 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: really just to get on your team. 798 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 5: But you know, it's like I do like a vetting process, 799 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 5: you know. 800 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 3: I use my YouTube channel, like, hey, like help me 801 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 3: out with some like projects online or something like that, 802 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,280 Speaker 3: some quick things, you know what I'm saying. 803 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 2: And that's the way, like you're like test them on 804 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 2: the spot. 805 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:24,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 806 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 3: But but even but even still, it's just like just 807 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 3: the crib community just getting bad out here. When it 808 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 3: comes to that, I'm just afraid, like years down the line, 809 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 3: like people are not gonna be able to do nothing. 810 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: Well, I don't like to backtrack, but take me back 811 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,720 Speaker 1: to like your original inspiration that got you into drawing, 812 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: because I know it helped you hope through things, But 813 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: like where was that first initial seed? 814 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 3: You like things like Naruto, dragon Ball, dragon Ball Z. 815 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 3: You know, the generics of everybody. Everybody, Like you know 816 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, people some people like one piece, you 817 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 3: know I'm saying. I watched a lot of cartoon cartoon network. 818 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 3: I was a cartoon network kid. Yeah, just like all 819 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,439 Speaker 3: those things. But my style really comes from Dragon Ball 820 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 3: from dragon Ball Z because like the way you draw 821 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,720 Speaker 3: the pupils, the ears. That's why I'm really like big 822 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 3: on yeah like that. And then what a thing that 823 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 3: taught me style was was bleach. You never heard of bleak? No, 824 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 3: I don't expect you to know Bleach is? You know 825 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 3: what bleach it is? Chris IF's smiling so hard? 826 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 2: Are you laughing so hard? 827 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:32,959 Speaker 5: I can see the gap between his teeth. 828 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: He's smiling so hard talking behind the camera. So what 829 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: are the next projects you have coming out? 830 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 3: Right now? You know it's right now? The real main 831 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 3: thing is Kayla because that's my spider Man. Okay, yeah, 832 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 3: so I'm putting my all into that. So it's like 833 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 3: I'm working on a one it's called a one shot, 834 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 3: so it's going to be sixty something pages. 835 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 2: You know. 836 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 3: Were putting out trailers for it and all that, treating 837 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 3: like it's a real thing, you know what I'm saying. 838 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,720 Speaker 3: And then I plan on turn it into a short 839 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 3: film eventually. But yeah, like I'm not going to be 840 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 3: doing like no more like regular like videos of the 841 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 3: moment type thing. I really want to take this stuff 842 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 3: to another level. So I'm doing like treating like all 843 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 3: my animations when I put them out. 844 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 5: Like short films. 845 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 2: I like that. 846 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's like all my videos going to be filmed, 847 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 3: gonna have that short film vibe. You know, I'm gonna 848 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 3: be submitting them into film festivals. 849 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 2: But so, how how long would a short film be? 850 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 4: For you? 851 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 3: A short film can be any lanth It can be 852 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 3: a minute to six minutes, ten minutes, it doesn't it 853 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 3: doesn't matter. 854 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 2: Are you going to charge your fans to watch it? 855 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 3: No? No, I'm not going to. 856 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 5: I don't believe in like things like that, you know 857 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. 858 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 2: Not in the same way, by the way, I don't. 859 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just weird because it's like it's even hard 860 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 3: to like even make them like a Patreon because it's 861 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 3: like it's like i'd rather like sell you merch you know, 862 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 3: once I convince you that that you'd like to product 863 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 3: that much, you want to support me in that way 864 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 3: firstus like doing something like that. So I'm back and 865 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 3: forth with it. But yeah, like all next year, you know, 866 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 3: it's going to be like just promoting Kayla just all 867 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 3: just all around gotten too much crazy feedback. People like 868 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 3: her a lot, and now it's like for me to 869 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 3: put my. 870 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 1: Stamp on it, and then how are you going to 871 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,439 Speaker 1: distribute it and all that? 872 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 5: You know online? 873 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 3: Probably do something like bookstore releases and just everything, because 874 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 3: like I said, it's like I really you know, people 875 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 3: really feeding for a new Boon Docks and it's not 876 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,879 Speaker 3: like a Boon Docks or anything like that. I'll break 877 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 3: it down a little bit. So it's basically it's around 878 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 3: h zodiac signs. Their powers around zodiac signs. Right, So 879 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 3: say like I'm an Eries for instance, Right, so it's 880 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 3: like my zodiac ability would be around flames and rage, 881 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 3: anything doing with rage. 882 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 883 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 3: But we we we hard hitted straight to the point. 884 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 3: I'm straight to a point right now, go to the bad. 885 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 2: From you know what I'm saying your whole okay. 886 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, but that's how it goes. You know, 887 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 5: It's like I made it. 888 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 4: You know. 889 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 3: It's like like I said, it's for that demographic of 890 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 3: people that like things like juice to Kaisen. You don't 891 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 3: know that is no. 892 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 2: Stop at a bunch of things. 893 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 3: I want to say whole things like I'm saying, like 894 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 3: juice Kaisen, Uh, you know what I'm saying. People that 895 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,800 Speaker 3: love just ain'tthing dealing with that shown in genre, except 896 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 3: you know, it's just a girl that has like a 897 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 3: feisty attitude of a you sky what you say? 898 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 5: What you you're a MESHI? 899 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I don't know. Look I'm still a fan 900 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: and I don't know these things. 901 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 3: So yeah, you'll pop up, You'll pop up in the book. 902 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 5: I'll draw you. I'll draw you. 903 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 6: Know. 904 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 2: If you do that, I promise you, I would be 905 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 2: so hyped, like little kid. 906 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 5: You'll be one. 907 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 3: You'll be one of the agents. Okay, I'll go in 908 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 3: a little bit further with with it. Right, So it's 909 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 3: like it's a secret agency called the Core. So think 910 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 3: of like it's the Men in Black type world where 911 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 3: it's like you gotts like deal with like monsters that 912 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:05,720 Speaker 3: people can't see. 913 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, so and. 914 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 3: You know how like the government be like people like 915 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 3: compiracy theories. I can't yeah, where ITAs like they make 916 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 3: things up, say like for example, in this world, right, 917 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 3: a big, a big explosion goes off, right, but you 918 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,240 Speaker 3: know in this world is about like monsters you can't see. 919 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 3: But you know, like the Core, the Men in Black type, 920 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 3: they're you know, they're covering things up. 921 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 5: So you seeing the news about like, oh, like. 922 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 3: A pipe burst or something like that the cause this, 923 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 3: So it's like really like the monsters. Yeah, yeah, so 924 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 3: it's really it's really like that. And her thing is 925 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 3: like collecting all like collecting all the orbs so she 926 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 3: can like power up to go against yeah, orbs. I 927 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 3: think they'll be nice key chains and plushies for people. 928 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 2: What's your sign, Aquaris, I'll send you one, by the way. 929 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why we get along so well. 930 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 2: I didn't know that they are right there. What did 931 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 2: you say anywhere? 932 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 5: Angry? 933 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 2: Angry? 934 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, to the point. 935 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,320 Speaker 2: I don't really know a lot of angry aries. 936 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 5: You're talking to angry areas right now. 937 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 2: I'm shi. When's your birthday? You know what. 938 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: Maybe it's the ones that are born with the March dates. 939 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. 940 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,839 Speaker 1: I know women aries, that's kind of like angry all 941 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,919 Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, but I don't know men. 942 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 2: You're the first. 943 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 5: I could be bitchy. Where's my milk and cookies? Oh? 944 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 5: Promise me making cookies. 945 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 2: What's a day in the life of you right now? 946 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 5: But day in life of me right now? You know? 947 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 5: Playing bild games. 948 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: Really Yeah, how much time do you spend like drawing 949 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 1: and all that all day? 950 00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 5: It can go from like ten to ten. 951 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 2: And what is your mom say about all of this success? 952 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 3: Sounds like, uh, she don't be believing nothing. I'll be saying, 953 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 3: she'd be thinking, I'd be lyings like I don't tell 954 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 3: you nothing. She didn't start believing nothing until. 955 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 5: She saw what do mean. 956 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 2: She'd be thinking you're lying at this point. 957 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, she don't. 958 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 3: She don't think of lying no more until like I 959 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 3: have a Breakfast Cluve interview two years ago. Then she 960 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 3: started believing stuff. 961 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 2: So that's so funny. What race are you? 962 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 1: You? Just regular black regular regularmegular regular, black regular. 963 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 3: They used to call me a poppy store general when 964 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 3: I was little. Why Yeah, They say say I look Spanish. 965 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, you look like you could be 966 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 2: mixed with something. 967 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 5: I saying, no, I am. I am black. 968 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,320 Speaker 2: Regular Smegula regular Smegula black. Okay, okay. 969 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: What advice would you give to anyone that any young 970 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 1: person or older person that's like pursuing that field, that 971 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: genre of work. 972 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 3: Be prepared And the main thing I see a lot 973 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 3: of people do is like they quit their jobs way 974 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 3: too early. Because I didn't quit my job until it 975 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 3: made sense. 976 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:08,919 Speaker 2: Was what was your job? 977 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:10,240 Speaker 5: I worked in dietary? 978 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 2: What does that mean? 979 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 5: It was in the kitchen. 980 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 3: Oh you were like cooking, like you know, like serving 981 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 3: the food, cleaning. 982 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 5: It was a nursing home. 983 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, okay, And you worked that till what point? 984 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 5: I worked there until two thousand and seventeen. 985 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 1: Okay, so that's right before yeah came into the picture. 986 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: Was that right before your eight thousand dollars? 987 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:35,839 Speaker 3: Right? 988 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 5: That was. 989 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 3: That didn't come into like a year. They didn't come 990 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 3: into like a year later. That's why I made That's 991 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 3: why I made you quit? What made you say I 992 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 3: could quit? Because because I made like twenty four thousand 993 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 3: by myself doing what though? 994 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 5: Just doing commission work? 995 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 2: Okay? And how much were you making at the day job? 996 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:57,320 Speaker 5: Same amount? 997 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 1: Okay, I would have done the same. I would have 998 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: done the same, but I try to stack the money though. 999 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 3: For a little bit before you quit, I was buying snapbacks. 1000 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, you look like a fashion guy like this 1001 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:12,439 Speaker 1: this overall set? 1002 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is this is premium pit bull letter? 1003 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,800 Speaker 2: Is it really? It's a really cute outfit. 1004 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 5: I feel this premium pit Bull letter. Right there, there 1005 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 5: you go. 1006 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 2: It feels like leather. Yeah, all right? 1007 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 1: Uh and then, uh, is there anything that we don't 1008 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 1: know about you that you love to share with us 1009 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 1: on this show? 1010 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 3: I think I basically said. I think I basically said everything. 1011 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 3: One thing I can just say is just like, be 1012 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 3: grateful every day you wake up, try to use try 1013 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 3: to maximize every day the most you can, and just 1014 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 3: spend time with friends and loved ones because you never know, 1015 00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 3: and you don't want to be like, well what if this? 1016 00:44:59,320 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 4: What that? 1017 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,919 Speaker 3: Do what you want to do, and you know you'll 1018 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 3: just be happier. That's really all I can say. That's 1019 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 3: why I can say about myself. 1020 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 1: And then circling back to the mental health stuff you said, 1021 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 1: bipolar schizophrenic, to my knowledge, doesn't schizophrenia like you can 1022 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 1: hear voices. 1023 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's like a lot of that stuff, man, 1024 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 3: I probably more likely when I think about it, it's 1025 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 3: like I probably never had it. A lot of it 1026 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 3: more likely just had something to do with stress. And 1027 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 3: you know what, anybody when comes to stress, it becomes 1028 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 3: a boiling point and just pops. You know what I'm saying, 1029 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 3: So to me to be honest is like it was 1030 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 3: probably just stress. But you know it's like people they 1031 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,720 Speaker 3: gotta like diagnose you with something. 1032 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I at the age of I wanna say it 1033 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 1: was thirty. I had a very stressful thing. I was 1034 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: working with Nick. I was doing a lot of stuff 1035 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 1: way above what I should have been doing at the time, 1036 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 1: just juggling a lot not a lot of balance. And 1037 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 1: I had like a mental like psychosis and I got 1038 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 1: diagnosed PTSD schizophrenic with bipolar. They were like, she's all 1039 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 1: bat shit, like she's done, and I was. I was 1040 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,439 Speaker 1: definitely checked out. I thought my brain was never gonna 1041 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 1: My whole family thought my brain was gone. But I 1042 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 1: went to in La. They had like a like a 1043 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 1: mental museum, and I went like five years prior and 1044 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 1: they had talked about like all these things they do 1045 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 1: back in the day to like help people with mental health. 1046 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,439 Speaker 1: They were like shocking them and doing all these things, 1047 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 1: and I remember they ended up putting me in a 1048 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 1: psych word and I remember, like it's crazy up in 1049 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,799 Speaker 1: there by the way fucking nuts. I woke up and 1050 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, I'm tripping, Like I need to 1051 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,800 Speaker 1: get to the root of like what the fuck happened 1052 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,320 Speaker 1: to like find out where I'm at, and they the 1053 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 1: patients were like, yo, just be careful because these doctors 1054 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 1: can diagnose you and give you a drug cocktail. 1055 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 2: You can end up in here like forever. 1056 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,479 Speaker 1: And they were like tipping me off to like fuck 1057 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:02,879 Speaker 1: around and get the wrong thing. 1058 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 2: This will be your life. 1059 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 1: And I'm thankful to the few patients that kind of 1060 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: were like, you know, why are you looking at me 1061 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 1: like that thinking I'm crazy? No, no, this is true story, 1062 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:19,760 Speaker 1: so this will happened, true story. I had a trump 1063 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 1: traumatic childhood. I remember my dad came in my day. 1064 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 1: My dad my uncle was like call my dad, like 1065 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 1: you better come down here, like it's a rat for her, 1066 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 1: you know. 1067 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 2: And anyways, I was I think I. 1068 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,799 Speaker 1: Was experiencing PTSD, but I didn't know I was experiencing 1069 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 1: it for so long before the episode until like, you know, 1070 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,360 Speaker 1: they talked to you about the symptoms. You're like, oh, 1071 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to say this in front 1072 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 1: of the doctors, but some of the shit is kind 1073 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 1: of on point. Anyways, I fought the doctors on like 1074 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 1: it prescribing me all the drugs. 1075 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, my mom was like just take whatever. To 1076 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 2: get out of there. I'm like, nah, Cuz this is 1077 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:55,760 Speaker 2: my brain. 1078 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 1: This is my best asset, Like like I think, like 1079 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 1: my brain is more important than my looks, like take anything, 1080 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 1: but just don't take my brain. 1081 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 2: And so I fought them. 1082 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 1: They put me like that, had to see a judge. 1083 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 1: They made me like eat three meals a day. I 1084 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 1: had to sleep in that place, which was freaking nuts, 1085 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 1: and I went in front of a judge, Like obviously 1086 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,800 Speaker 1: I came back. My brain came back. I had to sleep. 1087 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,400 Speaker 1: And what I did learn about the whole situation is 1088 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 1: like sleep is very important to this day, Like if 1089 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 1: I'm so stressed out, I will get sleeping pills, NyQuil whatever. 1090 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 1: I don't play about sleep because I think it played 1091 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,879 Speaker 1: a huge role into what happened. But I did fight them. 1092 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: I didn't take the drugs, and then my dad was 1093 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 1: like thanking me later, like yo, the side effects of 1094 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: those drugs would have like probably impaired me for life. 1095 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,879 Speaker 1: And all it was was like just a lot of sleep. 1096 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,760 Speaker 1: I mean they sedated me for like a whole twenty 1097 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: four hours, and that's obviously what helped me kind of 1098 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:56,360 Speaker 1: come out of it. But I fought them and I 1099 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,839 Speaker 1: remember the judge being like, yeah, So I was like, look, 1100 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 1: I'm a fully functioning girl in the real world. I'm like, 1101 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,360 Speaker 1: I run my own company, I live by myself, like 1102 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 1: I pay all my bills like you know. And then 1103 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 1: I was threatening to sue them because I was like, 1104 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: you know, this place is like people are like raping 1105 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 1: each other up in here. Like I was like, I 1106 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 1: will sue all of you guys. And my dad was like, 1107 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,920 Speaker 1: she's back, just free her, you know. But you know, 1108 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 1: so I kind of know a little bit about it, 1109 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 1: you know. But that's why I was asking about the 1110 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 1: whole It's like, you know, that's why I just say. 1111 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,359 Speaker 3: It's just like if more people had more genuine people 1112 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,839 Speaker 3: around them, you know what I'm saying, Like, people will 1113 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 3: be better, you know what I'm saying, Like, I don't 1114 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 3: care how busy I am. If you call me, I'll 1115 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,759 Speaker 3: you know, I won't be able to talk much, but 1116 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 3: I'll listen to you while I'm drawing. You don't just 1117 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,000 Speaker 3: need people need a vent. But it's too many people 1118 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,799 Speaker 3: like saying like oh I don't I don't want that 1119 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 3: type of energy, what type of what type of energy? 1120 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,359 Speaker 5: If you're that type of person you. 1121 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 3: Know they're not you know, like I kind of like 1122 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 3: feel sadden for you, Like it's like you don't got 1123 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,440 Speaker 3: empathy for other people. That's partly the reason why you know, 1124 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 3: our country is like so messed up where it's like 1125 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 3: it's not about community no more. You know what I'm saying. 1126 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 2: I agree. 1127 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,400 Speaker 1: I do have that one Aries friend that is like 1128 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 1: that who she'll be like her energy and her peace 1129 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,920 Speaker 1: and she protects it or whatever. And I do feel 1130 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 1: like I'm an empathizer, so I'm gonna be like, well, 1131 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 1: maybe people call her all the time and that's why 1132 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 1: she doesn't like hearing things. But she's the only girlfriend 1133 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 1: of mine and she is an aries and I think 1134 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 1: she has the same birthday as you, and she'd be like, 1135 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,640 Speaker 1: if it's not this, this, and this, I cannot hear it. 1136 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't care. 1137 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,759 Speaker 3: Like if I can have several of my friends hit 1138 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 3: me up one day, like all in one day and 1139 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 3: they have any issue, that's that's what we hear for 1140 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 3: as humans, you know what I'm saying. I look at 1141 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 3: myself as like a guardian angel, like a healing angel 1142 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 3: for a lot of people. You know what I'm saying, 1143 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,440 Speaker 3: it's like people come to my life for a season 1144 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 3: or or for a long time. You know, I'm here 1145 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 3: to heal, you know what I'm saying. I'm here to 1146 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 3: like inspire, you know what I'm saying. That's why i want, like, 1147 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,080 Speaker 3: you know the real reason why I'm going so hard. 1148 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 3: I want to show kids that you don't just have 1149 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 3: to be a rapper or or you know what I'm saying, 1150 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,840 Speaker 3: some type of entertainer or do sports in order to 1151 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,960 Speaker 3: like to make money at what you do. You know 1152 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,799 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, you can do is do art. Like 1153 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,640 Speaker 3: how many people that we know that's like it's like 1154 00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 3: well known like in mainstream and art. That's my That's 1155 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 3: why I inspire to be like I aspired to, you know, 1156 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 3: be like a entertainer artist like a stan Lee. Okay, 1157 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 3: so stan Lee was working to the day he died. 1158 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 1: And just so you know, that was the number one 1159 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 1: reason why I wanted you on this show because I 1160 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 1: was like, we have all these successful people and it's 1161 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,719 Speaker 1: like you have your celebrities, you have your influencers. I 1162 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 1: love interviewing entrepreneurs, but I was just like this season, 1163 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 1: I was like, I want different genres. I don't want 1164 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: to see the same genre over and over. I was like, 1165 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 1: I have to have you. I'm glad you took the 1166 00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,080 Speaker 1: time out your day to come out here. I appreciate you, 1167 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 1: and I'm still a fan, even though I don't know 1168 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,719 Speaker 1: all the lango Christ texting during his interview, So don't 1169 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 1: text you in an interview. 1170 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:07,600 Speaker 2: All right, Thank you. 1171 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,239 Speaker 1: Guys so much for tuning in. Thank you Justin for 1172 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:10,720 Speaker 1: your time. 1173 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:11,840 Speaker 5: Thank you. I appreciate it. 1174 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 2: I appreciate you too, man. 1175 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 1: Okay, and you know, hopefully next time i'll see you 1176 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 1: in life, you won't have the bonnet. 1177 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,480 Speaker 5: My locks will officially be combed out. 1178 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,759 Speaker 1: It's a mess up here, Okay, all right, guys, thank 1179 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,319 Speaker 1: y'all for tuning in. And oh, before we close out, 1180 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,919 Speaker 1: where can all of our listeners keep up with. 1181 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:36,800 Speaker 3: Justin Instagram Justin Underscore rich Berg, TikTok Underscore, Justin Richberg, 1182 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:44,720 Speaker 3: Twitter ex Underscored Justin Richberg YouTube Justin Richbert. 1183 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 2: You could just google Justin. 1184 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:48,920 Speaker 5: Just google Justin Richberg. 1185 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,719 Speaker 3: If you don't know how spelled my name, just just 1186 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 3: just sannding it out and chat GBT and chat chet 1187 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 3: will tell you all about me. 1188 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,280 Speaker 1: Wow, I didn't know that I'm gonna do that, all right, cool? 1189 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 1: Thanks you all, Thanks for tuning in. 1190 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:18,520 Speaker 6: Peace out. 1191 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 1: For more eating while Broke from iHeartRadio and The Black Effect, 1192 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,440 Speaker 1: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen 1193 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 1: to your favorite shows.