1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio. 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 2: What's going on? 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 3: Martin and Carrie Rhoades broadcasting liar from the ti rack 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 3: dot Com studios ti iraq dot com. We'll help you 5 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 3: get there with an automax election, fast free shipping, free 6 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 3: road as a protection over ten thousand. I recommended this 7 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 3: dollars tire rack dot com the way tire buying should be. 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 2: First, I want to tell my co. 9 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 3: Host DJ, who normally sits next to me during this slot, 10 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 3: hope you feel better. Pal came down with the little 11 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 3: case hilaryngitis. Oh that makes a little tough to talk 12 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 3: for three hours. But you know what, we got an 13 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 3: adequate replacement right here, my man carry roads. 14 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 4: Carrie. 15 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 2: How you doing today, my friend, I'm doing well. 16 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 5: The only thing I'm a little upset about right now 17 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 5: is the introduction usually on my other should just says, 18 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 5: you know, eight year all pro safety. You guys just 19 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 5: kind of shortened me a little bit, just eight year safety. 20 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I'm a little upset about it. I 21 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: think it might it might be for me. Honestly, you 22 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 3: did that. 23 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 2: I've never been all pro anything, that's all. 24 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 3: It's like, hold on, wait, I've had a job for 25 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 3: eight years two. All right, you know I've been working 26 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: since I graduated from Kyle Yeah. 27 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: Sorry, well, all pro, thank you? How about that? All pro? 28 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 3: Thank you know what is not well after pretty much 29 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: all pro perennial candidate Miche Fitzpatrick went down. That pretty 30 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 3: much put the nail in the Steelers for this afternoon. 31 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 3: And we seen one team quit already this week week fifteen, 32 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 3: the Los Angeles Chargers. And we'll get to that in 33 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 3: just a minute by the top of the next hour. 34 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 3: But I gotta ask you right now, did we just 35 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 3: see another one with the Pittsburgh Steelers going down thirteen 36 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,279 Speaker 3: to what was it final score, thirteen to thirty, thirty 37 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: to thirteen the Indianapolis Colts. I know, over betters like myself, 38 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: thank you Mike Tomlin for taking all three of those 39 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 3: timeouts instead of just letting the game in to go ahead. 40 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: Let Matt Gay kick that field goal to go ahead 41 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 3: and push it over forty one and a half. But 42 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 3: see meaningful to some, meaningful to some, but it did 43 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 3: not matter the outcome of the game, which I mean 44 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 3: as soon as Indianapolis crossed twenty points, it's like, oh, 45 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 3: this thing's over. It's over, and so I just wonder, man, 46 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 3: is this we are looking at something we've never seen 47 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 3: before in NFL history, staring down the barrel of an 48 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: unprecedented time in the NFL because Mike Tomlin has never 49 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 3: came closer to finishing without a five hundred record than 50 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 3: he has right now. With the Bengals and the Seahawks 51 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 3: coming up, he could easily lose two of the next three. 52 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 3: I mean, did this Where are you at now with 53 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 3: these Steelers? Should they move on from Mike Tomlin? A 54 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 3: question that just a year ago I would have said. 55 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: You're ridiculous to ask Martin. 56 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's one of those things where this team's been 57 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 5: done for a while. A lot of fluke wins that 58 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 5: happened throughout the season that kind of kept them afloat sure. 59 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 5: And so you see the record seven and four, which 60 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 5: could easily be four and seven at this even at 61 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 5: the point they were right, but now they're seven and seven, 62 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 5: lost three in the. 63 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: Rows of teams throughout. 64 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 5: The Colts are playoff team right now, but nobody's afraid 65 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 5: of the Colts, right And then you lose to the Cardinals, 66 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 5: and you lose to who they lose to last day, 67 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 5: they lost to the Patriots. They lost to the Patriots. 68 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 5: So they're done. They're done, and I think it's catching 69 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 5: up to them. And now I think the season's officially 70 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 5: in the can. They will finish below five hundred. 71 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: This year, this team was six and three through nine 72 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: weeks of football, headed in to go to Cleveland to 73 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 3: play Dorian Thompson. 74 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: Robinson killed him. 75 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 3: And now when you look at them having dropped all 76 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 3: these games, I mean, you know Bill Cower's record when 77 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 3: the Steelers led by more than ten points from Ed 78 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 3: Bouschett covers the Steelers. 79 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 5: Let me guess, Okay, how many years was Coward there fifth? 80 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 5: Is it fifteen or was it longer than that? 81 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: I feel like it was like seventeen. 82 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 3: It was close, right, he would probably be cowards record 83 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 3: when the Steelers led by more than ten. 84 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: He probably was undefeated one eight, one and one. 85 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 3: I knew it was one hundred and eight wins, one loss, 86 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: and one kiss of the sister tie. Now look at 87 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 3: where the Pittsburgh Steelers are kissing the sister You never 88 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 3: heard that. That's a tie? 89 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: You never heard that before. No, cocky, I'm not on 90 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: my own of this. No, I haven't heard of it, right, 91 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: What about you, Brendan, I have heard thank you. 92 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 3: It's like a tie, It's like kissing your sister. That's 93 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: what That's what I've heard that saying before. 94 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: Yes, thank you. 95 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 3: Okay, cool though fifty just like Mike tom was over 96 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 3: every time in his career, finished over. 97 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: Over fifty percent, wins over five hundred. 98 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 3: But right now, it's never been darker. I mean, you 99 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 3: got Duck Hodges tweeting just hey, after the game, after 100 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 3: you see uh, after you see Mitchell Trubisky get benched 101 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 3: for Mason Rudolph, And I'll be honest, the lesson I 102 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 3: remember seeing Mason Rudolph play was when Miles Gart hit 103 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 3: him in the head with his helmet exactly. 104 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're in They're in troubled waters. For sure. 105 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 5: They're not gonna they're in that sink and swim situation, 106 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 5: but they're gonna sink. Nobody they throw in is gonna 107 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 5: have a chance to throw that raft over the slave 108 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 5: of this team. So it's it's gonna be tough sledding. 109 00:04:59,560 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 4: Man. 110 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 5: I hate it too, because I'm a Mike Tomlin guy. 111 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 5: He even back when I was coming out in college 112 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 5: going to the pros, he interviewed me way back then, 113 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 5: and he was a hot shot dB coach at the time, 114 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 5: and I knew he'd have a go on to have 115 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 5: a great career. 116 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 3: But right now, and let mean, let's be honest, Yeah 117 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 3: he has. Yeah, he has had a great career. Yes, 118 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 3: And I'm not necessarily putting the nails in the coffin. 119 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,679 Speaker 3: I don't misrepresent I don't want to make a seeling. 120 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 3: I'm putting the nails in the coffin on Mike Tomlin, 121 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 3: the coach. Right, but this Steelers thing, I mean, this 122 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: is the first time I feel like, legitimately you could 123 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: be like, man, they need to make some major changes, 124 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 3: whether it's sticking with Matt Canada for too long and 125 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 3: then as soon as he gets fired, they go and 126 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 3: have their first four hundred yard game in three years. 127 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: Then after you know, but then, you know, that was 128 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: kind of like the dead cat bounce, right, you know. 129 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 2: You guys heard of that frame I heard, all right, 130 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: all right, just. 131 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 3: Making sure I got my book of idioms open right now, 132 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 3: all right now, So that was kind of like, you know, 133 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 3: the fired head coach or the fire coordinator bounce it. 134 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 3: And then you see, even against the new England Patriots 135 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 3: when they have Connor Hayward throw a pass inside the 136 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 3: fifteen yard line. 137 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 2: Connor Heyward not. 138 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: A quarterback, although you know you could argue Mitchell Trubisky quarterback, 139 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 3: but also Connor Hayward not a quarterback who had a 140 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: pass tips And you saw Mike Tomlin stare up into 141 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 3: the coordinator's box like what are you doing? And you 142 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: just have to wonder if the Rooneys will be staring 143 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 3: back down at the field asking Mike Tomlin, what are 144 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 3: you doing? And in fact, we don't like to taste 145 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 3: their ice cream anymore? 146 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: Get out of here. 147 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 5: Well, the thing about when you start making end season 148 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 5: changes with coordinators and stuff like that, and you're benching 149 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,559 Speaker 5: players and doing all that stuff, when that comes, usually 150 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 5: that's out of desperation, right. They're in a desperate mode. 151 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 5: And when you operate from a desperate mold, things don't 152 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 5: go tend to go well for you. Anyway, it looks 153 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 5: like it's looked like the writings already on the wall. 154 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 3: I'll say this, If the Pittsburgh Steelers choose that they 155 00:06:55,480 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 3: want to fire Mike Tomlin, come on, damn baby. The 156 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 3: New Orleans Saints, who could use an incredible coach like 157 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 3: you front. As a New Orleans Saints fan, I would 158 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 3: be signed up for that. But I mean, you just 159 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: see this and I don't. 160 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: It hasn't. It obviously is. 161 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 3: Not as bad as what we saw with the Chargers, 162 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: But we are seeing some teams are just kind of 163 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 3: playing out the string. Others not so much like today. 164 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: What we saw in the Cincinnati and Minnesota game not 165 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 3: so much. 166 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 4: Do you like? 167 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 3: While it was, I mean, some of those quarterbacks looked 168 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 3: like they were throwing left handed right. Nick Mullins through 169 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 3: one of the more ridiculous interceptions you'll ever see shot 170 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 3: I was that DJ Reader got that? 171 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: No, it was bej Wow. 172 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 3: I can't remember who caught it now, DJ Hill, I think, 173 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 3: But still one of the I mean, how many times 174 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: you throw an interception off your butt? That's pretty good. 175 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: But we saw these teams and Jamar Chase got hurt. 176 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: Who stepped up? Tyler Boyd T Higgins. Tie Higgins was 177 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 3: one of the better catches you'll see this year in 178 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 3: terms of catching and then extending for the end zone 179 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 3: to punch that thing into the for six. I'm seeing 180 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: none of that in Pittsburgh, seeing none of that like 181 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 3: the fight that they are, just the urgency to try 182 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 3: to turn around and win games. 183 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 5: Well, their skilled players are young, right, and so if 184 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 5: you're not getting touches as a skilled guy when you're young, 185 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 5: you tend to get frustrated so you don't do the 186 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 5: other things. 187 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: You can see that with Pittsburgh, right, So, I mean 188 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: you got George Pickens, that's about said. 189 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 5: So a guy like that with so much talent, so 190 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 5: much you know, coming to this year with so much verve, 191 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 5: but to not be able to do that once the 192 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 5: game starts, once you're not getting the ball and not 193 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 5: getting the touches, you got to do other things. And 194 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 5: I think that's what make teams good, and that's when 195 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 5: you know that you're all locked in together. 196 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 2: And they're not locked in together. 197 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 3: No, it definitely seems as if there is a major, 198 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 3: major disconnect, although a. 199 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: Lot of it. 200 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: I mean, their starting quarterback got went down. It's just 201 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: to me, honestly, with this is really more making me 202 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 3: feel like this is a testament to Mike Tomlin and 203 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 3: the standard that he had set year after year after year. 204 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 3: And I know people talk about the culture in Pittsburgh, 205 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 3: and you know what I think it's valid when you 206 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 3: have a guy who's been there for so long, right, 207 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 3: But it's just again, we're going Bill Belichick is coaching 208 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 3: the worst team in the AFC right now. Yeah, Mike 209 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: Tomlin is gonna finish hunder five hundred more than likely. 210 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 3: Is this a changing of the guard in the NFL? 211 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 3: Is this a time for change? Well? 212 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 5: The thing is about culture, right. I think we throw 213 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 5: that term out very loosely. 214 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: Right. 215 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 5: The Pittsburgh Steelers had a culture before Mike Tomlin got there. 216 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin bought his own culture. And so I think 217 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 5: when you step into those iconic organizations, though iconic situations, 218 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 5: you got to make sure you stay true to you. 219 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 5: And I think what Mike has done Tomlin has been 220 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 5: true to him. So now there's a time when true 221 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 5: to him doesn't work for the team anymore. You start 222 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 5: falling on deaf ears with the things you're saying because 223 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 5: they've heard it before. 224 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 2: It's time to move on at that point, well. 225 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 3: You know, and part of it, you know, you wonder 226 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 3: if Kenny Pickett is a franchise quarter back. My money's 227 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 3: on no, you know, but you know who else you're 228 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 3: going to take in that draft? It was not a 229 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 3: I mean, and again he was like the twenty second 230 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: overall pick, Like, it's not something that you're not really 231 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 3: expecting your twenty second overall pick to come in and 232 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 3: just be a top of the league. Right, That's a 233 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 3: great thing that happens if especially a quarterback. Right, It's 234 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 3: not like you're expecting what you would expect out of 235 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 3: a Bryce Young or a CJ. Stroud. But also you 236 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 3: can see how just the difference in dichotomy of those 237 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 3: two names right now and where they're you know, all summers, 238 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: you know, people talking about Bryce Young, is Bryce Young net? 239 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: Right? And now CJ. Stroud without this now obviously down for. 240 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 3: Concussion, but at one point, yeah, people on television and 241 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 3: radio like you and I talked about is this guy 242 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 3: in the MVP conversation? 243 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? 244 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 4: No. 245 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 5: But and the whole thing about comparing and contrasting these 246 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 5: young guys so early, man, is they are two totally 247 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 5: different situations. Frank w Reich didn't want to be in Carolina, Carolina. 248 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 5: You could tell that in Carolina wasn't And for Frank 249 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 5: Brice wasn't. Wasn't it guy. So you have these things 250 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 5: where you have to sometimes take players that may not 251 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 5: be ideal for your situation for your team because Bryce 252 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 5: Steng coming into this, coming into the draft and coming 253 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 5: into the league, you would look at Bryce Stong and 254 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 5: be like, this guy can play, He's a leader, he 255 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 5: has all the intangibles and all the things. So you know, 256 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 5: you get put in a situations where even in the 257 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 5: preseason people thought CJ. Strial was still gonna was gonna 258 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 5: be a bus in the preseason. This dude comes out 259 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 5: the game waned and sets that up right away. So 260 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 5: just give it time. I don't like the comparison game, 261 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 5: but obviously in one year, we gotta do what we 262 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 5: gotta do on the radio and in the media and 263 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 5: talk about it. But Bryce Stan's gonna be okay. 264 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 3: See I say this. I don't like to necessarily doing 265 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 3: super comparisons either. Yeah, but there is one comparison that 266 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: I do with all quarterbacks. The closer you look like 267 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 3: me and body type and weight, the more out I 268 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 3: am you are. And when I found out that I 269 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 3: was an itch tar that's Pryce Young and weighed about 270 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 3: twenty pounds more, I'm out. 271 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: I'm out, I'm out. You're done. 272 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 3: He doesn't qualify because you know what, I sure didn't qualify, 273 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 3: so he's like, we know. 274 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 5: The crazy part about that is people played on that too, 275 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 5: because they were showing the pictures of I think he 276 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 5: went when he was in training camp, a mini camp, 277 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 5: and you can see the size of the old line 278 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 5: in him, and they looked like a little brother in 279 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 5: the huddle exactly. 280 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: It was crazy. 281 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 3: I look at you, a former All pro shafety, you 282 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 3: know what you got muscle? You know what I mean? 283 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 3: I don't got it? Hey, and I'm ten years out, 284 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 3: so you know what I mean exactly my point. I'm 285 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 3: ten years off of like the last athletic thing I 286 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 3: ever did. But that's I'll tell you what put a 287 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 3: pin in this. How long do you think Mike Tomlin's 288 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 3: phone would let me rephrase that, How quickly would Mike 289 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 3: Tomlin's phone ring with a new job offer if the 290 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 3: stealers moved off from him? 291 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 5: It just depends on what the situation is. I don't 292 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 5: think every team's gonna call, but I think a team 293 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 5: that has veterans, a team that's ready to win and 294 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 5: has the pieces in place but just hasn't done it, 295 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 5: that'll be a team. I mean, I can see a 296 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 5: team like the Redskins, maybe, I Commanders. 297 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: I can see a. 298 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 5: Team like the Chargers maybe, but I think we'll get 299 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 5: into that a little later. But yeah, I think there's 300 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 5: some There's a few high profile situations, but not all. 301 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 5: I don't think you bring Mike Tomlin in with with 302 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 5: a young team at the moment. I think he I 303 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 5: think he does relate, but I think that relatability is 304 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 5: kind of fading a little bit with those guys. 305 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 3: I'll say this, mikey t come on down to New Orleans. 306 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: Black and yellows real close to black and gold, baby, 307 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 3: and you know, I believe they're not sick of Dennis Allen, 308 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 3: who is the worst coach in the NFL right now, 309 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 3: still with the job and seemingly just everybody's okay with it. 310 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 3: Everybody's just fine. Everybody's just, you know, a okay with 311 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 3: everything that's going on in New Orleans. 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Carrie 352 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 3: is at Carrie twenty five Roads, our h ods Eds. 353 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 3: There you go, And we were just looking, we were 354 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 3: just talking about this game off the air, Carrie, the 355 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 3: Lions and the Broncos. Right now, as we see Jerry 356 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 3: Judy dreaking down into Lions territory, he's down at the thirty. 357 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 2: But there is a flag on the play. We'll see 358 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: what that is. 359 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 3: Lions went three and out or you know, six or 360 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 3: seven and out on their first drive here zero to 361 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 3: zero two. I mean twelve forty five left in the 362 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 3: first quarter. But the big news is to me and 363 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: at least this is right now. Put up or shut 364 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: up time for Detroit. If they don't and it's a 365 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 3: defensive penalties, that big play will stand. Sean Payton's got 366 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 3: a smile on his face, but uh, why does he 367 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 3: look the same colors as advisor? But this Denver team 368 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 3: earlier this season gave up seventy points on defense, which 369 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 3: you know was threatened last week, threatened on Thursday to 370 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 3: be the high score of the year, but uh, put up, 371 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 3: gave up seventy points defensively, and pretty much since then 372 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 3: have bowed all the way back. One in five starts 373 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 3: seven and six now, and let's be honest, could have 374 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 3: been a eight and five had Russell Wilson made a 375 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 3: little bit of a better decision in the end zone 376 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 3: in Houston. 377 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 378 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, the Lions, Uh, my good friend TK tweeted this out. 379 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 3: He said, we're nine and four, but it feels like 380 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 3: four and nine and it's because of the way they 381 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 3: have lost the last few games and just defense has 382 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 3: just been completely optional. Guys getting moved around against their 383 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 3: will by the Lions. The defensive front is not great, 384 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 3: the ability to stop the run not great. And uh, 385 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 3: if the Lions don't win this game, I mean you 386 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 3: gotta have real questions for a team that you thought 387 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 3: potentially could be a Super Bowl contender around Thanksgiving of 388 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 3: this year. 389 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, they're in trouble. And I don't mean in trouble 390 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 5: of they're gonna make the playoffs. They're gonna they're gonna 391 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 5: get in and they're gonna have a chance to com. 392 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 2: To Tommy DeVito pretty much the Packers. They're gonna be 393 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: fine there. 394 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 5: But as far as being considered one of the top 395 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 5: teams in the NFC, that's definitely out the window right now. 396 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 5: And what we talked about off the air a little bit, 397 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 5: what I was telling you is, Yeah, I think Denver 398 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 5: is gonna win this game. And it's just and it's 399 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 5: not even an indictment on Detroit all the way here. 400 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 5: I just think Denver has the momentum. I think they're 401 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 5: believing in what they're doing right now. And as Russell 402 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 5: Wilson gets sacked in from of the ball and big 403 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 5: Boys might be a big. 404 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 3: Boy touchdown another I think that's Isaiah. 405 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 2: Not gonna make it. 406 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 5: Hey, Hey, get that man, AND's some oxygen. As soon 407 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 5: as I'm talking about, Denver is gonna win the game. 408 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 5: And they drive down the field, getting positioned to at 409 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 5: least get three. Russell Wilson turns it over, and so 410 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 5: now Detroit's cooking in on Denver side of the field. 411 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 3: Right now, we'll see because the problem has not been 412 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:37,959 Speaker 3: I mean no, don't get me wrong. Problem has been 413 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 3: Detroit's defense, as I just outlines, as you saw secondary 414 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 3: Blitch come and force this fumble on Russell Wilson and 415 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 3: Isaiah Bugs running as far and as fast as a 416 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 3: big fellow cut defensive tackle. 417 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 2: Number. I'll just put it like this, everybody listening. 418 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 3: He's wearing number ninety six, So he's not necessarily gonna 419 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 3: get too far out there, even in today's day and 420 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 3: age of wearing whatever number you want wherever you play. 421 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, he know, he knows where he belongs the game. 422 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 3: To me, the key is this, Jared Golf has looked 423 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 3: really bad the last two weeks. He's turned the ball over. 424 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 3: He's like leading the league in turnovers over the last 425 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 3: three weeks, or if not, he's pretty much up there. 426 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 3: And this Denver Broncos defense also that's been the catalyst 427 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 3: for their turnaround. 428 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 2: It's forcing turnovers. So we'll see. And then the other 429 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 2: other under underlying story here Dan Campbell. 430 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 3: Is you got kind of like a protege sense type 431 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 3: of relationship here, mentor mentee. 432 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 2: Dan Campbell got to start under Showing pad Uh in 433 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 2: New Orleans. You got to start there. 434 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 3: He played for Showing Payton, he started coaching for Sean Payton, 435 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 3: and then when the ended up going to the Dolphins 436 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 3: with the interim head coach, came back to New Orleans 437 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 3: and now obviously in his first head coaching job in Detroit, 438 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 3: been one of the best teams against the spread in 439 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 3: the last three years. 440 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 2: I know that matters to me and not too many others. 441 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 3: But it started out rough Dan Campbell one and nine 442 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 3: and I had a loss. That was one of those 443 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 3: losses that you know you could get fired first year 444 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 3: when you go into New England and lose to Bailey's 445 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 3: Happy twenty nine or nothing. Yeah, and pretty much since 446 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 3: then has turned it around. Competed that year this year, 447 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 3: nine and four. But again, like I said, they started 448 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 3: out super hot. And this this, you know, after Thanksgiving 449 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 3: is when you really want to be playing your best 450 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 3: football they're not right now, as Jared Goff gets sacked 451 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 3: on another third down was knocks and probably out of 452 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 3: field goal range. 453 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, No, Yeah, they're they're getting I think they're getting 454 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 5: the a dose of being the hunted. You know, they've 455 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 5: been the hunty for such a long time obviously, but 456 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 5: now once you start having success, teams want to come 457 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 5: in and prove that they can beat you now. And 458 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 5: so I think that's what they're getting a little bit 459 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 5: of as well. I think there's. 460 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 2: Enough tape of what Detroit wants to do. 461 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 5: They want to be aggressive, they want to come out 462 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 5: and run the ball, and you know, teams want to 463 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 5: come in and prove that they're the more physical team too, 464 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 5: and I think they're starting to catch some of that 465 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 5: right now. 466 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 467 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 3: And some things that we just kind of repeat over 468 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 3: and over again, and even though they're not they may 469 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 3: not be true, like you know, like uh, I'm trying 470 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 3: to think of a great example now, like oh, like this. 471 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 3: You know, year in year out, you just expect the 472 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 3: Steelers have a good defense, right, we just talked about 473 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 3: the Steelers. 474 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 2: Top of mind. 475 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 3: You just expect them to have a good defense, right. 476 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 3: We have talked about the Lions offensive line as one 477 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 3: of these great units in the league for quite some time. 478 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 4: Now. 479 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 2: They've gone down with a couple of injuries. 480 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 3: And I think the most telling part of it is 481 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 3: if Jared Golf doesn't have everything right, everything lined up 482 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 3: a Z. 483 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 2: He's got, you know, all. 484 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 3: The ingredients and what order they go in and how 485 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 3: hot to turn the oven on, and it got all 486 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 3: his timing down. He can't he can't. He can't add lib. 487 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 3: If there's no carrots there, he doesn't know what to do. 488 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 3: He can't replace them with something else. He needs to 489 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 3: go to the store and get some carrots. Well, yeah, 490 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 3: you and the carrot cake. 491 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 2: You can't. You just had Thanksgiving on the mind. 492 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 5: You can't substitute that you got. You gotta go with 493 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 5: the carrots. You gotta stick with the cars. That's what 494 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 5: he's usually doing, right, If you made a great point. 495 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 5: If the mixtures mix really well, he's really good. But 496 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 5: when he's off schedule, that thing does not look good 497 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 5: at things. Thanks a little bit. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, 498 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 5: it's like a it's like a first time person trying 499 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 5: to cook on Thanksgiving, right, Yep, they have all the 500 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 5: ingredients they call mom, they got the recipe, but just 501 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 5: doesn't turn out just right. That's what Jared Goff does 502 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 5: when he doesn't have it right there in front of him. 503 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's be honest, station having there's no time for amateurs, 504 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 3: neither his NFL football. But we'll turn to the true 505 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 3: professional this show. Steve de Sager for an update. What's 506 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 3: going on with my friend? 507 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 8: Hello, gentlemen, And by the way, the Jared Goff talk, 508 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 8: there was a show on NFL Network this season that 509 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 8: referenced the amount of bad games he's had at outdoor stadiums, 510 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 8: and they say Golf of the Lions is really more 511 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 8: of an indoor kitty something. Just to keep in mind, 512 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 8: Detroit is hosting and scoreless with Denver in the opening 513 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 8: minutes of tonight's game, third of the three NFL games. 514 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 8: Before we get to Detroit Lions details, can I mention 515 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 8: the Detroit Pistons game just went final. This is the 516 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 8: team that's now two to twenty four this NBA season. 517 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 8: They lost last night by thirty two at Philadelphia. They 518 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 8: just lost by thirty two at Milwaukee one forty six, 519 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 8: one fourteen the final. The Detroit Pistons have lost twenty 520 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 8: three games in a row. 521 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 2: That's impressive. Man, in its own way, it is. Actually yeah, it's. 522 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 8: Like staring at it at an auto wreck. You know, 523 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 8: you can't take your eyes off it. When are they 524 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 8: playing next? I'm interested, I know, I'm locked in. You 525 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 8: mentioned the return big man loose on the field here 526 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 8: for the Lions tonight, Isaiah Bugs listed at six three 527 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 8: three thirty five, had a thirty three yard fumble return 528 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 8: on the sack the stripsack of Russell Wilson, but no 529 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 8: points off the Detroit offense. By the way, that was 530 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 8: the first drive of the night for Denver, and that's 531 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 8: how it ended with a turnover. This is, as they say, 532 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 8: the third game of the NFL Saturday. The Colts earlier 533 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,479 Speaker 8: came back to beat Steelers thirty to thirteen. Steelers had 534 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 8: led thirteen nothing in the second quarter, but Gardner Minshew 535 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 8: had three touchdown passes. Bengals in overtime beat the Vikings 536 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 8: twenty seven to twenty four. Bengals trailed seventeen to three 537 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 8: after three quarters. This is the Minnesota team that last 538 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 8: Sunday won three to nothing at Las Vegas, coming off 539 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 8: of bye T Higgins tying touchdown reception in the last 540 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 8: minute of regulation. The Texans will start quarterback Case Keenum tomorrow. 541 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 2: CJ. 542 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 8: Stroud is out at Tennessee, still in concussion protocol. He 543 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 8: missed practice all week. Seahawks quarterback Gino Smith, with the 544 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 8: groin entry, is questionable for Monday night against the Eagles. 545 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 8: He was limited in practice this week. As for college football, 546 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 8: it's the first day of bowl games this season. There 547 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 8: are six on the schedule right now. Fresno State in 548 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 8: the fourth leads New Mexico State in Albuquerque twenty seven 549 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 8: to ten. In La Boise State ahead of UCLA nine 550 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 8: to seven in the second quarter. The late game in 551 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 8: about forty five minutes will have Cal against Texas Tech. 552 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 8: Earlier wins for Apple atch in State, Ohio University and 553 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 8: for Jacksonville State in overtime. Next Saturday, seven bowl games. 554 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 8: As for college basketball, number one Arizona was beaten in 555 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 8: Indianapolis by number three rank Purdue ninety two to eighty four, 556 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 8: and in a top twenty matchup in Atlanta, Kentucky beat 557 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 8: North Carolina eighty six to eighty three. Among the many 558 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 8: NHL games, Boston Bruins out to a one nothing second 559 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 8: period lead over the Rangers and in a shootout, Minnesota 560 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 8: beat Vancouver two to one. 561 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 3: Back to you, thanks Steve Martin and Kerry coming to 562 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 3: your life from the Tirack dot Com studios. Let's get 563 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 3: our guy in here. NFL reporter for USA Today, Tyler 564 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 3: Dragon is on the line. Tyler, are you there, my guy? 565 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 2: How you doing? 566 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 9: I'm doing good? 567 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 4: How you doing today? 568 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 2: I'm doing better than Brandon Staley? Is okay? I'm doing 569 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 2: better than Brandon Staley. 570 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 3: And I see you wrote this article now for USA Today, 571 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 3: and I'm trying to pull it up. But the gist 572 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 3: of it was, you can't quit the charges, Tyler. You 573 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 3: know Lincoln, Bill Belichick now to this team. 574 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: Out was. 575 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 9: Out here in LA so I follow and I'm in 576 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 9: the Chargers locker room a lot as well as the 577 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 9: LA Rams. And you know, when I look at the 578 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 9: Chargers team, they need to have an injection of life 579 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 9: in that locker room. 580 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 4: And then they need a. 581 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 9: Proven winner and an experienced coach. And who else better 582 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 9: than a coach like Bill Belichick. Now that is if 583 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 9: he parts ways with the New England Patriots. But if 584 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 9: he does, to me, it's Bill Belichick or maybe even 585 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 9: Jim Harball at Michigan. Those should be the top two 586 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 9: candidates for the Chargers. 587 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 4: You got to experience. 588 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 9: They need an experience coach with a proven track records 589 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 9: of winning. 590 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,239 Speaker 5: Tyler, what's up, man, it's carry Rhodes. I just want 591 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 5: to ask you about kind of the piggyback on that 592 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 5: situation a little bit in LA with the charge What 593 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 5: seemed to not go right with them? Obviously we can 594 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 5: see the tape and we can see how they've been 595 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 5: playing lately. But you know, when Stateley came in, it 596 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 5: was it was deemed to be a really good hire, 597 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 5: and you know, he was this wizard on the defensive 598 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 5: side of the ball, and you already had the offensive 599 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 5: guys and play and had a great roster. What seemed 600 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 5: to be the biggest downfall with that team. 601 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 9: Well, you said he was hired because that's his defensive 602 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 9: mind and the way that the Rams played defense when 603 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 9: he was a defensive coordinator there. But when he was hired, 604 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 9: in the three years that he was with the Chargers, 605 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 9: his defense was ranked near the bottom of the NFL 606 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 9: in major categories, points per game, yards allowed. So if 607 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 9: that is the side of the football with it, you 608 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 9: call it your bread and Butter and the Chargers defenses 609 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 9: ro routinely bad. Their execution errors, this alignment errors, This 610 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 9: is just a comedy there, especially in that Las Vegas 611 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 9: Raiders game. Not to mention blowing a twenty seven point 612 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 9: lead last year. 613 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 4: In the playoffs. 614 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 9: It just all was just a combination of things which 615 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 9: led to his downfall. And you know, I do believe 616 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 9: that Brandon Staley is gonna eventually get another defensive coordinator position, 617 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 9: but the Chargers definitely need it, just a new voice 618 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 9: in that locker room, and Brandon Staley certainly needs to 619 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 9: change the scenery as well. 620 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 5: Tyler, one more follow up on that situation. Yes, I 621 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 5: mean we can all look at that and tell we 622 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 5: know that even from the outside looking in, but it 623 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 5: seemed like with that team there was no real leadership. 624 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 5: I was on the radio the other day and I 625 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 5: was asking somebody about it. But I was saying, who 626 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 5: is the leaders of that team? And obviously you can 627 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 5: look at you know, obviously Herbert and Bo send those 628 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 5: guys as possible leaders, But inside that locker room, we 629 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 5: know it. Sometimes it's not the big name guys that 630 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 5: are the leaders. Who would you call a leader of 631 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 5: that team? Because it doesn't seem like they have really 632 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 5: good leadership. 633 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 9: Yeah, I look at like a Derwin James, the highest 634 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 9: pay safety in the NFL, A player like Khalil MaTx 635 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 9: both on the defensive side of the football. In an 636 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 9: offensive football, it's a player like Keenan Allen metroan thing 637 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 9: that has some success. I do think all those players 638 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 9: also look to Justin Herbert to kind of lead. He's 639 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 9: not really a vocal guy, leaves by examples, kind of quiet. 640 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 9: But the Chargers are trying to get him more comfortable 641 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 9: with being a more vocal leader, and I think that's 642 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 9: part of his maturations process as the NFL quarterback and 643 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 9: one of the highest paid players in the NFL. For 644 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 9: the Chargers to take the next step, I think Justin 645 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 9: Herbert needs to be a little bit more of a 646 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 9: vocal leader, not so much just lead by example as well. 647 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 3: Now do you linked the Bill Belichick to the Chargers 648 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 3: if with the Patriots has been reported by Tom Kerrn 649 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 3: of Boston News Papers, but another AFC long I mean 650 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 3: long resident, right, Mike Tomlin. This very well could be 651 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 3: the first time he finishes this season with a losing record. 652 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 3: We saw the output today, not Great Bengals, Seahawks, and 653 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 3: Ravens finish out the year for their Steelers. 654 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 2: This very well could be the first year he has 655 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 2: a losing record. 656 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 3: Would you, Tyler think that Steelers will be moving on 657 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 3: from Tomlin at the end of the. 658 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 4: Year, No, not at all. 659 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 9: I mean, I think people are not really looking at 660 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 9: this Steelers roster and being honest, their roster lacks talent 661 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 9: on both sides of the football. You look at their 662 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 9: receiving corpse. It's not that great. Dante Johnson, I mean 663 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 9: he's a decent number two. 664 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 4: Type of receiver. He's not number one. 665 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 9: George Chickens, I mean he's a good they're not scrubs, 666 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 9: but they're not number one caliber receivers. Naj Harris he's 667 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 9: I mean, he's a good running but this year he's 668 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 9: had one of the worst seasons of his career. They've 669 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 9: been playing a backup quarterback. That defense, you have some 670 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 9: names Watt Fitzpatrick, but other than that Casey, I mean 671 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 9: Haywards as well. But they lack talent across the board 672 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 9: and depth. So I don't care who's coaching that team, 673 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 9: from Bill Belichick to Vince co Lombardi. They were not 674 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 9: going to beat the Hurky good because they just don't 675 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 9: have that the talent and the depth to compete in 676 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 9: the NFL every single week. 677 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 5: Well, let's get away from the charges a little bit 678 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 5: here and talk about the big umbrella of the NFL 679 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 5: in general and who right now are your favorites to 680 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 5: come out to AFC and NFC right now and represent 681 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 5: the Super Bowl? 682 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 2: Are you? What is? What's your place on that right now? 683 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 6: Yeah? 684 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 9: I said at the beginning of the season, my Super 685 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 9: Bowl prediction was the Ravens, and I'm not. 686 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: Back pick at all that one. 687 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 9: Lamar Jackson is the MVP candidate. I really like the 688 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 9: way he's playing football, especially throwing the football. He's on 689 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 9: track to have his best season as far as past 690 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 9: the yards per game and overall in a single season. 691 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 9: So I really like the Ravens and they're my top 692 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 9: team coming out of the AFC, especially when I look 693 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 9: at the Kansas City Chiefs and they still have their 694 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 9: offensive struggles trying to find a consistent threat at why receiver. 695 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 9: We all know Travis Kelsey is the number one target, 696 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 9: but those receivers have really struggled this season outside of 697 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 9: Rashi Wright. So I would say the Ravens right now. 698 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 9: I'm not backing off my preseason. 699 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 3: Super Bowl pick. 700 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: Who you got in the NFC, you guess too. 701 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 9: So at the beginning I picked the Eagles. 702 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 2: But you don't like that one as much. You better 703 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 2: not like that one. 704 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 9: I like the San Francisco forty nine. To me, they're 705 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 9: the best team in the NFL right now. I since 706 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 9: that three game losing streak and them coming off thereby, 707 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 9: they have not lost the game. They're on a five 708 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 9: game winning streak. They're playing excellent football on both sides, 709 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 9: complementary football. That defense we all know with both and 710 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 9: those boys warners, they're playing excellent. And then the offense. 711 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 9: Brock thirty is the MVP candidate right now, and then 712 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 9: you have an assortment of weapons for him to throw 713 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 9: the ball to. And they're the king of gap yards 714 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 9: after the catch. 715 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 4: I love to play. 716 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 9: They play football. They're my favorites in the NFC. 717 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 3: Tyler Dragon, you're my favorite guest in the five o'clock 718 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 3: hour of our show every year every week. 719 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 2: Man, So thank you again for joining us. 720 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 3: Tyler Dragon, NFL reporter for USA Today. You can get 721 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 3: them on x at the Tyler Dragon not a Tyler Dragon, 722 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 3: the Tyler Dragon. 723 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 2: Tyler, thanks for doing us my friend. Thanks Tyler, of. 724 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 9: Course, thanks for having me on. 725 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 3: Having a good weekend, all right, Coming up next, I 726 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 3: think we learned one big thing in the Bengals Vikings 727 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 3: game that we really just need to discuss because it 728 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 3: probably won't be true much longer as some of these 729 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 3: guys gonna have to move on from the team. But 730 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 3: I want to see what Carrie Roads thinks about what 731 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 3: I have to say about this Bengals Vikings game. 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So I 740 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 3: saw a few people on social media, Carrie talking about 741 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 3: how Jake Browning was a gamer, and you know, as 742 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 3: we watched the backup Quarterback Bowl earlier today, if Nick 743 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 3: Marlins and Jake Browning talking. Jake Browning's all right, Jake 744 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 3: brown is a gamer. And I think that the way 745 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 3: we watch football was broken, because the only thing I 746 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 3: thought watching that game was my goodness, the Cincinnati Bengals 747 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 3: have the best wide receiver room in the NFL. And 748 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 3: it's not close. But Jamar Chase, t Higgins, Tyler boyd oh, 749 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 3: Jamar Chase goes down, don't even worry about it. Just 750 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 3: go ahead, throw it to the t Higgins, who had 751 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 3: to me one of the one of the more impressive 752 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 3: plays in the league that we've seen so far, where 753 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 3: he caught that ball on like the five, came out 754 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 3: the end zone, caught it on a four, and then 755 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 3: reached back and did like a reverse layup into the 756 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 3: end zone to cross the pylon. I mean, I think 757 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 3: the Bengals have the best wide receiver room in the NFL. 758 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 3: And it makes all the sense in the world why 759 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 3: they said, you know what, We're gonna run this thing 760 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 3: back right now. Because we had a guy like Joe Burrow, 761 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 3: we should be able to win in the NAFC. And 762 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 3: I think that should be to me, the takeaway I 763 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 3: asked you during the break the hardest thing to do 764 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 3: as a defensive back. Yeah, I imagine in today's game, 765 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 3: the hardest thing to do it a defensive back is 766 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 3: line up against those guys and play man the. 767 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 2: Man, yeah one of them. 768 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, right now, the hardest thing to do is is 769 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 5: to do anything right in the in the NFL as 770 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 5: a defensive player. Right, you can't tackle low, you can't 771 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 5: tackle high, you can't drop hic, you can't drop hip 772 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 5: hip tackle, you can't horse collar, you can't target, you 773 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,399 Speaker 5: can't do anything. So I think all of it's hard. 774 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 5: But now nowadays, the way that they spread, spread your 775 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 5: guys out and spread them out and throw the ball 776 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 5: all over the field. Man, it's just a tough position 777 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 5: to play, and you already at the disadvantage because you 778 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 5: don't know what they're doing most of the times, if 779 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 5: especially at the corner position. So I think it's just 780 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,439 Speaker 5: hard to play defensive back in general. Not I don't 781 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 5: think you can pinpoint in one thing. 782 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 3: I mean, but I just watching that game this morning 783 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 3: this afternoon. For you East coast folks, we're on the 784 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 3: West coast watching that game this morning with a cup 785 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 3: of coffee before I went to the gym. I'm just 786 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 3: like low. I mean between Joe Mixon and uh Jamar Chase, Tyler, 787 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 3: Boyd Thiggins. I mean, T Higgins is a number one 788 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 3: wide receiver on half the teams in the NFL, if 789 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 3: not more. 790 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 2: They're not paying him like it. That's why somebody's going through. 791 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 3: And that's why I said this is going this is 792 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 3: gonna be the last time we see it like this, 793 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 3: because the Bengals aren't gonna pay him like it. 794 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 2: And I mean, if you're a. 795 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 3: Team like the I mean, T Higgins be the best 796 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 3: receiver on the Chargers right now, all right, sorry, the 797 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 3: Steelers right now, he'd be the best wide receiver on 798 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 3: a feutive. He'd be one of the better receivers on 799 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 3: Detroit right now, the team we're watching even nine and four, 800 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 3: he'll be one one A because I'm because I'm on 801 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 3: brown great. But who's taking the top off, who's going 802 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 3: deep right like that? That'd be T Higgins job. Yes, 803 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 3: I just think that when we watched this, when we're 804 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 3: talking about how Jake Browning, Oh, Jake Browning is a gamer. 805 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 2: Jake Browning is great. 806 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 3: He's throwing the ball to some really talented dudes out there. 807 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 3: I think, for my dollar, it's the best wide receiver room. 808 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 2: In the league. 809 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 5: So you're trying to discredit Browning right now. That's doing 810 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 5: right now, you know you are, That's what you're doing 811 00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 5: right now? 812 00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 2: Are doing this. 813 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 3: We just had Tyler dragging on earlier, just just a 814 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 3: few seconds ago, and he brought up how brock party 815 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,479 Speaker 3: is in the MVP conversation and then in the same 816 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 3: breath and the same breath, talked about how the forty 817 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 3: nine ers are the yard after catch team. 818 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 5: Well, the juxtaposition that you just did right there, you 819 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 5: had Browning, who you say is in the best room 820 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 5: wide receiver room in the league. San Francisco has the 821 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 5: same skilled players that are supposed to be the best 822 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 5: skilled players in the league. So you can bind in 823 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 5: both of those and you're giving a discredit to one 824 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 5: of them for being in that room, but the other 825 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 5: one you're you're you're allowing it. 826 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 2: To You're allowing it to happen. But I'm trying to 827 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 2: do He's assign the proper credit. 828 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 3: That's what I want to do. I just want to 829 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 3: sign the proper amount of credit. 830 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 2: That's it. 831 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 3: Because we talk about like like the quarterback is the 832 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 3: only guy out there that matters, like the quarterback is 833 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 3: the only guy out there when teams win, Like Jake 834 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 3: Browning wasn't the one that came out the end zone 835 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 3: because it was such a short ball that the has 836 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 3: had to run four yards out of the to catch 837 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 3: it and then flip back and do a reverse layup 838 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 3: into the end zone. We just got to be better 839 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 3: with this as as as a media, as viewers, as 840 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 3: viewers of this, we have to be better. 841 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 2: And just who we're talking about is. 842 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 3: The reason why teams are winning, the reason why teams 843 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 3: are losing. Like you think that Jake Browning is as 844 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 3: good as Joe Burrow, No, exactly, So what are we doing? 845 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 3: What are we doing? Let's give credit to the guys 846 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 3: out there who are you know, really some of the 847 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 3: best in the league. 848 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 2: Martin. 849 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 5: He's doing a good job. He is Browning is he 850 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 5: needs his flowers as well. He deserves his flowers. And 851 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 5: I think, you know, I could see that coming in 852 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 5: when when Burrows got hurt and he came in that 853 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 5: game late, even though they didn't win or threaten to 854 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 5: get back all the way in the game. He showed 855 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 5: glimpses where I was like this team might be okay 856 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 5: with him, and he's playing well, So give him a 857 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 5: little credit to. 858 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 3: And you know, shalute to the Cincinnati Bengals for having 859 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 3: a good backup quarterback, you know, seriously, because as we've seen, 860 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 3: Minnesota is what on the third quarterback this year? 861 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, fourth, I think to start a game. 862 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, Kirk Cousins, Jared Hall and 863 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 2: then uh. 864 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 3: The pastronaut Josh Don Nick Bolin, Josh Dobs Ellen's sanity 865 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 3: run fast? 866 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 2: Isn't that story crazy? 867 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 5: Everybody's saying he should be the backup or the starting 868 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 5: with the Jets, and now he's back on the bench, 869 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 5: and this is just crazy how fast that turns, right? 870 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 2: I mean? 871 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,839 Speaker 3: I mean, but hey, if you saw Zach Wilson being 872 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 3: AFC Player of the Week last week, more credit to you, 873 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 3: because I sure didn't. 874 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 2: I knew. 875 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 5: I knew Zach was gonna be fine. They're playing they're 876 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,879 Speaker 5: putting so much blame on him, and I knew seeing it. 877 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 5: It's like this team isn't functioning well. It's not just 878 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 5: about him. Obviously the quarterback gets a lot of it, 879 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 5: but sure he had a chance to be good, and 880 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 5: I think he's a talented kid. 881 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 3: See look now, I feel you're trying to do the same. 882 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 3: Let's just sign the appropriate amount of blame. That's what 883 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 3: you're trying to get it. Let's just sign the appropriate 884 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 3: amount of blame. Well, all the blame right now is 885 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 3: on Brandon Staley with what going on with the Los 886 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 3: Angeles Chargers. 887 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 2: That's up next, Martin and Carrey. Fox Sports Radio. 888 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 889 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,280 Speaker 6: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 890 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 6: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 891 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 6: listen live. 892 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 3: All Pro Lorena, there you go, all pro, carry we learn, 893 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 3: we learned, and regular old me. Martin Weiss never been 894 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 3: all pro and anything. 895 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 2: You're all prone to radio. Baby, you got all. 896 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 3: He's too kind. 897 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 2: There you go. 898 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 3: We're broadcasting a lot from the tyrack dot com studio. 899 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,760 Speaker 3: Tirack dot com. Help you get there with an unmax election, 900 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 3: fast free shipping, freuid has your protection and over ten thousand, 901 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 3: ten thousand recommended to starllar tyrack dot com. It's the 902 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 3: way that tire buying should be. And I like to 903 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 3: do this sometimes, but you know who need to do tires. 904 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 3: Brandon Staley as he's driving his way out of LA 905 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,439 Speaker 3: because I don't know if he can afford to stay 906 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,839 Speaker 3: here without a job. It's expensive out here, folks in 907 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 3: Los Angeles. But no, Tyler Dragon just said it at 908 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 3: the bottom of last hour. You know, Bill Belichick is 909 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 3: I think the buzzword the front runner for the new 910 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 3: Chargers job, either that or Jim Harbaugh. But Carrie, I 911 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 3: just and I know there's only thirty two jobs in 912 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 3: the league, right, so you gotta take them if it's 913 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 3: offered to you. Right, this Charger's job. It feels like 914 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 3: maybe I'm ball myself. Maybe you gotta let me know 915 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 3: what you think about this. Yeah, I don't feel like 916 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 3: it's nearly as desirable as people make it out to be. 917 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 3: You have your quarterback under contract in Justin Herbert, right, yep. 918 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 3: But like it's not a stretch to think that a 919 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,800 Speaker 3: potential coach may not like Justin Herbert. 920 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 6: Right. 921 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 3: That's the first thing we are operating under that everybody 922 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 3: just has him as what they are looking for in 923 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 3: their quarterback, which may or may not be true. 924 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 2: Right, That's the first thing. 925 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 3: But the second thing, you got Austin Eckler, you got 926 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 3: Keenan Allen Mike Williams and these guys are all in 927 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,400 Speaker 3: there the I'm gonna say the sunset of their careers, 928 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 3: but they're about my age. Khalil Mack Joey Bosay ended 929 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 3: the season on I Are Mike will can't stay healthy. 930 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 3: Keenan Allen is my Austin Eckler is older. You know, 931 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 3: they didn't want to commit to him long term in 932 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 3: the offseason. 933 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,399 Speaker 2: So I see a. 934 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 3: Team that has a lot of name recognition, but not 935 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,399 Speaker 3: necessarily a lot of back end talent. When you look 936 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,760 Speaker 3: at their drafts, I think they hit on Justin Herbert, 937 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 3: they hit on Reshaun Slater, A Sante Samuel Jr. Yeah, 938 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,919 Speaker 3: and then what you know, they bring in a guy 939 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 3: like J. C. Jackson. He's going with before the season's 940 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 3: over in New England. Back in New England, right, Kenneth 941 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 3: Murray at linebacker, to me, is might be one of 942 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 3: the worst in the league who starts. If I'm a lot, 943 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 3: if you watch the film, I watch a lot, I'll 944 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:40,879 Speaker 3: try to break the look at my all twenty two 945 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 3: and see what I'm looking at. Look, I see him 946 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 3: taking a lot of wrong steps, you know, like he's 947 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 3: doing a lot of thinking and not too much playing. Yeah, right, 948 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 3: and so you Sebastia Joseph Day is a highly paid 949 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 3: defensive tackle on his team, and I'm like, kinda what 950 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,439 Speaker 3: is he doing out there? It feels like this team 951 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,760 Speaker 3: is one that we know a lot of the players 952 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 3: but don't really I mean, I don't see just in 953 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,879 Speaker 3: and out. And I went through all that without saying. 954 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,879 Speaker 3: Derwin James, who you know, is like Tyler just said, 955 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 3: the highest pace safety in the league. 956 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 2: Well, Travis Couti eats this team for lunch. 957 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, you would think that would be a matchup that 958 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 3: would be favorable for Los Angeles, Right, Well, I. 959 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 2: Don't think it's ever favorable, but I think it would 960 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 2: be closer than. 961 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,399 Speaker 3: More favorable, right, more favorable than anybody else in the league. 962 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 3: When you got a big because Derningdem's a big body safety, 963 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 3: you think he go and cover. And I mean he 964 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 3: got beat on a few you know, everybody in the 965 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 3: world world got beat on Thursday night when they lost, 966 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 3: I mean gave up sixty three points. But I just 967 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 3: don't see the Chargers as this major landing spot. This 968 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 3: is a super desirable job. I think that there are 969 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 3: other jobs in the NFL that will open up or 970 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 3: probably will open up by the end of the season, 971 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 3: whether it be Chicago or Washington, that I would think 972 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 3: would really a blank slate here. You have a lot 973 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 3: of cap hit that you have to deal with, and 974 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 3: you're in a market in which literally no one cares, 975 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 3: right and I don't mean that to be. 976 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 2: I'm not exaggerating. 977 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 3: There's no one in Los Angeles on the grand scheme 978 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 3: who cares about what the Chargers do. 979 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 5: You might be onto something there for sure, and I'm 980 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,359 Speaker 5: with you on that because number one, the names that 981 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 5: we talk about with the Chargers, they don't stay healthy. 982 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 5: Number one, Right, you can't count on them guys being 983 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 5: there for seventeen games in the season. The competitive nature, 984 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:35,359 Speaker 5: the commpetitive fire that seems to be lacking with them 985 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 5: obviously also plays into part. I mean, you can get 986 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 5: some new blood in there and maybe they that changes, 987 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 5: But from what we've seen the last couple of years, 988 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 5: year in and year out, we're talking about the same 989 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,839 Speaker 5: and Raven about the names they have, those names don't 990 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 5: show up. The only ones that show up consistently Kennan 991 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 5: Allen does. I mean, he's a guy that you can 992 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 5: always count on to be there and to play and 993 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,319 Speaker 5: to make you know, and to compete. Like you could 994 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 5: tell he loves to win, right, you can see that 995 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 5: from him. I mean, Derwin James is somebody that you 996 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 5: know doesn't like to lose. But he's somebody that's not 997 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 5: going to be there all seventeen. He's the guy that's 998 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 5: injury prone. Bosa obviously injury prone. Khalil Mack. I think 999 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 5: he's on his last leg. I actually said the other day, 1000 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 5: I think he'll probably retire at the end of the year. So, 1001 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 5: and I don't have that inside information. 1002 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 3: He fels up there in terms of the league, in 1003 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 3: terms of sacks tackles were lost. Yeah, but let's not 1004 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,959 Speaker 3: forget the first time they played this Raiders team. Ain't 1005 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,839 Speaker 3: O'Connell's first start. I believe he had six sacks? Yeah, 1006 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 3: so he had six and one game. Yeah, yeah, No, 1007 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,759 Speaker 3: I think yeah, I agree with you on the desirability part. 1008 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 3: I think there's some people that may want to just 1009 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 3: be in LA as a coach and start something with 1010 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 3: a team that has potential. But again, they don't have 1011 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 3: a passionate fan base, they don't have an owner that 1012 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 3: seems like he really knows what he's doing, or even 1013 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,400 Speaker 3: cares to be honestly, to be honest, And so the 1014 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 3: foundation of what the charges represent for a coach that's 1015 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,879 Speaker 3: coming in with like the people we're talking about right now, 1016 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 3: right Belichick or Tomlins and Harbor, with these guys, they're 1017 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 3: gonna want to win. And if these guys aren't buying 1018 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 3: into that, and the fan base is and buying into that, 1019 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 3: why would they come here? You know, I'm glad you 1020 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 3: brought that up. Yeah, head coaches, new head coaches especially, are. 1021 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 2: Gonna want to win. 1022 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 3: You know what's hard to do when the division that 1023 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 3: Patrick mahonmes is playing exactly even with all the chief 1024 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 3: struggles right now, guess what they're running away with this thing. 1025 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1026 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 3: They would have to have a pretty monumental collapse, which 1027 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 3: I mean it may happen, and Tony can't line up 1028 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:33,839 Speaker 3: on sides. 1029 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:34,800 Speaker 2: And it might happen. Martin. 1030 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,319 Speaker 5: I'm actually I'm scared for the Chiefs right now. I mean, 1031 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 5: that's why I'm looking at this Denver game really closely. 1032 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 5: Because Denver wins this game, they're eight and six. 1033 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 2: Yep. 1034 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 5: The Chiefs lose this next game. They're eight and six, 1035 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 5: So it's a conversation. 1036 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 3: If the Chiefs lose to the Patriots, chief Kingdom is 1037 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,280 Speaker 3: going to be beside itself, especially after all the crying 1038 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 3: and won and and bitch and I heard about Kadarius 1039 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 3: Tony lining up off sides. Goodness, and we'll get to 1040 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 3: actually get to that and about the next segment. We'll 1041 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 3: talk about Andy Reid and those fines that came down 1042 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 3: Read and find one hundred thousand onlost fifty thousand for 1043 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,240 Speaker 3: I mean, just bitching and moaning after after Kadarius Tony 1044 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 3: decided to line up off sides. But still you took 1045 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,239 Speaker 3: it the Broncos team. Okay, you got a hall of 1046 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 3: fame head coach there, in my opinion, in Sean Payton. 1047 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 3: Yeah right, you got a hall of fame coach in 1048 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 3: Kansas City. You got a borderline guy with Russ. 1049 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Russ is not going to 1050 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 2: be in the Hall of Fame. He will probably end 1051 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 2: up in the Hall of very good. 1052 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:31,919 Speaker 4: Right. 1053 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 5: He's not an insult No, you know, I don't. I 1054 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 5: don't know, And I think I hate that these last 1055 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 5: couple of years has happened to him because before that 1056 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:41,359 Speaker 5: he's in the Hall of Fame. 1057 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:41,759 Speaker 2: For sure. 1058 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 5: And so now do we take away what he's done 1059 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 5: in his in his in his career in Seattle, winning 1060 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 5: winning super Bowls, I mean, making crazy plays when he 1061 00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:01,359 Speaker 5: was there. It's it's tough. If if Eli Manning gets in, 1062 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 5: then he would have to be in. I don't know, 1063 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 5: you don't think so. 1064 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 3: Never received an MVP vote in his career. 1065 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 2: Russell Wi Eli Manning. Eli Manning had two Super Bowls. 1066 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 2: Russ's got one, should have had too, could have. 1067 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 6: No. 1068 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,240 Speaker 2: I agree, No, I'm with you. I'm just the conversation 1069 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 2: of it. It's like, no, I feel you. 1070 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 3: I just when I look at the league and I 1071 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,839 Speaker 3: think about who are the top five top ten quarterbacks 1072 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 3: that we consistently went through and throughout, I feel like 1073 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 3: guys above him will be voted in. But either way, 1074 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,719 Speaker 3: either way, we're debating a first B plus right right now. 1075 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,400 Speaker 3: So it's like, yeah, I mean Russ top not necessarily 1076 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 3: the top of his game, but again, Hall of Fame 1077 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 3: coach in my opinion, is Sean Payton. In terms we 1078 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,279 Speaker 3: look at the metrics, he's up there with Tomlin and 1079 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,439 Speaker 3: Reid and winning percentage, and you know, the NFL didn't 1080 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,720 Speaker 3: have it out for him with bounty Gate, he wouldn't 1081 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 3: have had three seven to nine seasons. 1082 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 2: Any I'm a Saints fan about to say, that's what 1083 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:53,839 Speaker 2: the Sames guy. 1084 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 3: And let's remember Case Keen was making his start this 1085 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 3: week as first start of the year. Uh, Minnesota, Merria, 1086 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,359 Speaker 3: Case Kingdom. You have three Saints defenders tackling each other 1087 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 3: as the fondage runs into the end zone. Yeah, I 1088 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 3: remember it vividly. But I said that to say, I 1089 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 3: think you have Denver on the rise. Kansas City has 1090 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,360 Speaker 3: had a residency in the AFC Championship Game over the 1091 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,799 Speaker 3: last five years. Why on earth would you want to 1092 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,719 Speaker 3: go and to play these two teams four times up 1093 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 3: to seventeen you're gonna play? 1094 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with you, But and I also I 1095 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 5: said this the other day too. If I was Bill Belichick, 1096 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,720 Speaker 5: why would I go take another job anyway? I would 1097 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 5: for him, he should be going home. 1098 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 2: To be done. 1099 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 5: That's just my personal opinion. He's done it long enough. 1100 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 5: I think he's outweigh I think him connecting with the 1101 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,399 Speaker 5: youth right now and these younger players, I just don't 1102 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 5: see it happening anyway. So I mean, obviously this is 1103 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,279 Speaker 5: for the conversation and the sake of you know, coming 1104 00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 5: out here and having a chance to coach the Chargers. 1105 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,839 Speaker 5: Would he want to do it? Maybe, but I would 1106 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,400 Speaker 5: see him not even doing it in just in calling 1107 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:06,839 Speaker 5: to day. 1108 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 3: I mean he is just what is that eighteen wins 1109 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:16,359 Speaker 3: behind the all time leader Don Shula with uh, let's see, 1110 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,719 Speaker 3: this is kind of sick because I'm pulling up this 1111 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 3: article of October thirty, October twenty, October thirtieth. Rather I 1112 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 3: should say, and I mean he just when he passed 1113 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 3: George Hallis where he had a tie with three twenty 1114 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 3: five apiece Don Shula three forty seven in terms of victories, 1115 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:34,480 Speaker 3: I mean. 1116 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 2: It's it's within reach. That it's within reach. 1117 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,200 Speaker 3: So that might be enough motivation right there to hang 1118 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 3: on and find the new place to go, get six 1119 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 3: wins for the next four years, right and catch up 1120 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 3: and become the winning as coach in NFL history. But 1121 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 3: you know, like that's true, But I just don't see 1122 00:51:56,040 --> 00:52:00,160 Speaker 3: why the seemingly, like the media at large and and 1123 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 3: just across the board, people are locked in, like there's Chargers. 1124 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 3: If the Chargers roping, you gotta run and take that job. 1125 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,160 Speaker 3: So like there's a few different places that at least 1126 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 3: are more of a flat surface where you can build 1127 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,360 Speaker 3: your own vision and you can see with the Chargers, 1128 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,799 Speaker 3: the Chargers. I know that Spanos isn't necessarily gonna cut 1129 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,040 Speaker 3: the check like he like you would like the Broncos 1130 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 3: did to get Sean Payton. This is going to be 1131 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,239 Speaker 3: expensive to get some of these top guys in there, 1132 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 3: I think it is. And Sean Payton five years, eighteen 1133 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 3: million per. 1134 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 2: Does he make eighteen million in Denver? 1135 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,839 Speaker 3: Yes, that's why he's there. 1136 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 2: I remember he was. 1137 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,759 Speaker 3: He was linked to this Chargers job for a long 1138 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,520 Speaker 3: long time when he was over there sitting on Colin 1139 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 3: Cowherd's couch. 1140 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what he kept lobbying for, is what he 1141 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,440 Speaker 5: was doing. He was talking about that one. I remember 1142 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:46,839 Speaker 5: that when he was when he was in the media. 1143 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,839 Speaker 3: But when he went out there and said, you know, oh, 1144 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 3: eighteen million, bow Hi, here we come. I'm buying a coat. 1145 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,440 Speaker 2: For that exactly. I mean think about it. 1146 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 5: So if your guy Peyton, if he did get this job, 1147 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 5: if he had his job this year, you think this 1148 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:04,319 Speaker 5: team would be better right now? 1149 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:05,080 Speaker 2: The Chargers. 1150 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, without Brandon. I think Brandon Staley was a double agent. 1151 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:10,520 Speaker 2: You think he was bad. 1152 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 3: I mean, they're only two, They're only two in the 1153 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 3: first two weeks of the season, about to win in Minnesota. 1154 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and if it wasn't. 1155 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:22,360 Speaker 3: For the the just the disgusting mistake by Kirk Cousins 1156 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 3: to throw an interception in the end zone, we would 1157 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 3: have all been talking about how he went for fourth 1158 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,120 Speaker 3: to four of his old twenty five yard line. 1159 00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:30,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1160 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 3: I know, the game on the line and they were 1161 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 3: up four field go doesn't even beaches. Yeah, defensive coach 1162 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,360 Speaker 3: doesn't want to call it defense. 1163 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, Oh, I think he's bad too, Don't get 1164 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:40,279 Speaker 2: me wrong. 1165 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 5: I think's stay and his analytics is the worst thing 1166 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,200 Speaker 5: that's happened to football in general, because he would do 1167 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,960 Speaker 5: some stuff that just made no sense. But I'm meaning 1168 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 5: with the way this team is. I mean, obviously they're 1169 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,480 Speaker 5: injured in all the things we can see where they 1170 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,759 Speaker 5: are and right now, but come into the year, you 1171 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 5: would expect, if Peyton was here and with the Chargers, 1172 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:00,919 Speaker 5: expect to be a playoff team. 1173 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,319 Speaker 2: And I think it makes no noise. 1174 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,799 Speaker 3: I think at least competing for a wildcard very Somil 1175 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,960 Speaker 3: to Denver, like Denver's competing for a wildcar right now, 1176 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 3: if things break their way, they could win the division. 1177 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,800 Speaker 3: But really, honestly probably slided in at the wildcard spot 1178 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:18,680 Speaker 3: for Denver. But yeah, real quick, on Brandon Staley. I 1179 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 3: read this in The Athletic. Jordan rod Rey wrote it 1180 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 3: when she was she covers the Rams. This is on 1181 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 3: Brandon Staley's year with the Rams. And if we go 1182 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,640 Speaker 3: back and look at this, the results of twenty twenty 1183 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,879 Speaker 3: in general across the board, maybe just maybe the fact 1184 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,160 Speaker 3: that it was a worldwide pandemic had some impact on 1185 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 3: what was happening with what we were watching. But I 1186 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,759 Speaker 3: remember reading this because he had this whole theory that 1187 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,719 Speaker 3: he could cover a gap and a half with his 1188 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 3: defensive line. Then I don't want to get too football nerdy, right, 1189 00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 3: but cover a gap and a half. I remember thinking 1190 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,080 Speaker 3: how much it is is because you have Aaron Donalds, 1191 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 3: who requires a triple team, So sure Michael Brockers can 1192 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 3: cover a gap and a half because there's nobody there. 1193 00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:58,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, the. 1194 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,840 Speaker 3: All three people are focused on on Aaron donald and 1195 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,160 Speaker 3: then on the back end you got Jalen Ramsey. So maybe, 1196 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 3: just maybe, when you got two future Hall of famers 1197 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,160 Speaker 3: on the back end of or on the defense, and 1198 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,200 Speaker 3: the guy coordinates it for one year, you shouldn't offer 1199 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 3: him a head coaching job. 1200 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that part. It's just the one year. 1201 00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,320 Speaker 5: It's like you've done it one year with the names 1202 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 5: that you just named, and yes, success is going to happen. 1203 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,720 Speaker 5: But again, when you play that gap scheme, obviously there 1204 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,919 Speaker 5: are players that fit that exactly. And when you don't 1205 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,719 Speaker 5: get those guys, this is what happens. You get to 1206 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 5: see the real result of what that crazy nonsense would 1207 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:31,960 Speaker 5: look like. 1208 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:32,920 Speaker 2: And that's what it looks like now. 1209 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 3: Dude, I just thinking man gap and a half. I mean, 1210 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:37,879 Speaker 3: there are only one man. You know, there's only one 1211 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,480 Speaker 3: man down there. How're you supposed to cover? You know, 1212 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,319 Speaker 3: the A gap in half of the B gap. That 1213 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,400 Speaker 3: doesn't that that does not jive with what I know 1214 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,600 Speaker 3: about football. But you know, hey, brandis Stills coach of 1215 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,400 Speaker 3: the league. Maybe he's got to figure it out, you know. 1216 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,240 Speaker 2: No, it turns out great players make great plays. 1217 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 9: Yes. 1218 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,040 Speaker 3: Coming up next, we'll get into the Chiefs. 1219 00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:54,359 Speaker 10: Uh. 1220 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,240 Speaker 3: They're still crying about Kadarius Tony lining up off side. 1221 00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,360 Speaker 3: You see you said earlier it's the ref jobs to 1222 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,720 Speaker 3: warn them apparently not, but they. 1223 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 2: Fines came down for the Chiefs for their complaints. 1224 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,839 Speaker 3: After the game, we'll take a look in on this 1225 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 3: Lion's Broncos game lines with a fourteen point lead and 1226 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,919 Speaker 3: a mistackle right there as the Broncos have the ball 1227 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,279 Speaker 3: driving down the field with eight minutes left. 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Check out the 1238 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,640 Speaker 3: podcast Hurts Fox Sports Radio wherever you get said podcasts, 1239 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,359 Speaker 3: and be sure to follow, rate and review the podcast again, 1240 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,319 Speaker 3: just Hurts Fox Sports Radio wherever you get podcasts, and 1241 00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,239 Speaker 3: you'll see this show listened right after we get off. 1242 00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:02,439 Speaker 3: And there are very few times that I am jaw 1243 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:07,280 Speaker 3: on the ground, shocked like just wide eyed shocked, cannot 1244 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,720 Speaker 3: believe what I am reading and right now qualifies Carrie 1245 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:16,480 Speaker 3: right now qualifies as Adam Schefter just a few minutes 1246 00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:20,920 Speaker 3: ago tweets out and says, after being clear at the practice, 1247 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,600 Speaker 3: New York Jets quarterback Aaron Rodgers is likely to be 1248 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:28,040 Speaker 3: medically cleared this to play this upcoming week. That's correct, 1249 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,080 Speaker 3: League sources told ESPN. I have a feelings league sources 1250 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:36,720 Speaker 3: might be Aaron Rodgers himself from Schefter's piece. Rogers has 1251 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,040 Speaker 3: acknowledged he won't be one hundred percent until after the season, 1252 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:40,840 Speaker 3: but he has said he'd be willing to play if 1253 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 3: the Jets are in the playoff race. The fourth time 1254 00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,160 Speaker 3: MVP has also said it wouldn't make a ton of 1255 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 3: sense to return if the Jets, who are now five 1256 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 3: and eight, are mathematically eliminated, said Rogers, and the Jets 1257 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 3: organization still need to get together to discuss returning next 1258 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,360 Speaker 3: Sunday is the right step they want to take. Much 1259 00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 3: could depend on the outcome of the Jets this week 1260 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:04,040 Speaker 3: fifteen games Sunday in Miami against the Dolphins, and if 1261 00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:08,280 Speaker 3: New York sties any chance even infinitesimal. Yeah, that means 1262 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:13,280 Speaker 3: small of making the playoffs. And again the Dolphins we 1263 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,479 Speaker 3: saw just lose to the Titans. Tyreek Hill is gonna 1264 00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,560 Speaker 3: determine its own status, it says, But that would makes 1265 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 3: more sense. It's an ankle spring. 1266 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 2: This is achilles. 1267 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,080 Speaker 3: Rodgers was said to have two impressive days of practice 1268 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,920 Speaker 3: in the last week, leaving his coaches and teammates thoroughly 1269 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,160 Speaker 3: pleased with what they saw. But he also didn't have 1270 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 3: to loot in the oncoming pass rushers, escape from the pocket, 1271 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,040 Speaker 3: or do any of the things he'd be forced to 1272 00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,920 Speaker 3: do in a real game. I have been planting my flag, 1273 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,439 Speaker 3: going like, I'm sorry Aaron Rodgers not playing football again 1274 00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:41,800 Speaker 3: this year. 1275 00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 2: He's just not the. 1276 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,680 Speaker 3: Videos that we circulating the internet. Sa Aaron Rodgers, He's 1277 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,800 Speaker 3: not playing football this season because it's science. Are we 1278 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,920 Speaker 3: finishing a medical miracle? Because that's the only way I 1279 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 3: could talk. I mean, what what in hell? 1280 00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:01,520 Speaker 5: Hey man, Hyahwuaska's a real baby. That's that's the truth. 1281 00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,800 Speaker 5: I think you started rubbing some of that on that 1282 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:06,960 Speaker 5: on that on that uh. 1283 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 2: On the achilles. 1284 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,040 Speaker 5: I think it can snap back and get back into 1285 00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,800 Speaker 5: the right position. So no, but Aaron's. Aaron's been adamant 1286 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:20,160 Speaker 5: about you know, getting back and being being the first 1287 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 5: one or you know, being one of the ones to 1288 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:23,880 Speaker 5: be able to come back as quickly. 1289 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:29,160 Speaker 3: It would be the first person to hurt himself during 1290 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 3: in the regular season and returned in the same return. 1291 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,360 Speaker 5: During the season. How long was cam Akers deal? Because 1292 00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,040 Speaker 5: he came back super quickly, he came back in the 1293 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,400 Speaker 5: Super Bowl because he got hurt late though. 1294 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:39,840 Speaker 3: He got hurt. 1295 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:43,000 Speaker 5: I mean like he got hurt in the first drive 1296 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:44,400 Speaker 5: of the season. So I just want to see if 1297 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 5: that times the same time. But anyway, cam Akers took 1298 00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 5: four months to get back, four months and what and 1299 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:52,680 Speaker 5: so what September November four months, so it'd be around 1300 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,600 Speaker 5: three and a half four months. It's crazy to think about. 1301 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,120 Speaker 5: But I heard September eleventh, yes, yeah, yeah, so it's 1302 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,800 Speaker 5: four months now, right, So it's yeah, December or sixteenth. 1303 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:03,840 Speaker 5: But anyway, yeah, I mean I've heard the Errands in 1304 01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,640 Speaker 5: practice playing safety on the scout team and making one 1305 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:11,320 Speaker 5: hundred interceptions, so I know that to be true. I 1306 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,960 Speaker 5: don't know if he's running around, planting, breaking, doing all that, 1307 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,520 Speaker 5: if he's just standing around catching the ball one hand 1308 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,640 Speaker 5: doesn't matter. He's out there doing that, And I mean 1309 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,680 Speaker 5: he said it. If the Jets are mathematically in the playoffs, 1310 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,240 Speaker 5: he'll he'll come back, and if it works out for 1311 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,480 Speaker 5: both both parties, for the team and himself, he'd come 1312 01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,640 Speaker 5: back and play. So I think, like you said, it's 1313 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,200 Speaker 5: all predicated on if this team can win this Sunday 1314 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 5: tomorrow against the Dolphins, which they won't. I think they 1315 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,920 Speaker 5: have a chance, you'll see. I do you think they 1316 01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:39,720 Speaker 5: have a shot. I don't think they have a shot. 1317 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 5: I do, I do, I think they do. I think 1318 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,320 Speaker 5: Miami's injured right now. They got some injuries to deal with. 1319 01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:51,040 Speaker 5: They have some some issues with confidence on the horizon 1320 01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,000 Speaker 5: as well. So yeah, we'll see, We'll see what happens. 1321 01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:55,200 Speaker 5: I'm shocked. 1322 01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,160 Speaker 2: I know you are. See your face. I'm right beside you. 1323 01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:00,320 Speaker 3: I see you're shocked, because it's just like I hadn't 1324 01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,680 Speaker 3: heard it all before. It will be back week seventeen 1325 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,160 Speaker 3: versus Command a lot, But to hear that he's sitting 1326 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:09,240 Speaker 3: around playing scout team safety, first of all, seems like 1327 01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,080 Speaker 3: an incredibly reckless thing to do. With the Kuya stories 1328 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,240 Speaker 3: of killers four months ago. It is like, what do 1329 01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,200 Speaker 3: we do. Could you imagine if you had heard that 1330 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,960 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers got hurt attempting a one arm Dinners on 1331 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,360 Speaker 3: one hand interception at playing scout team. 1332 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:27,480 Speaker 2: Safety, It'd be crazy, it was. That's grounds for firing everybody. 1333 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:27,880 Speaker 2: It is. 1334 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,120 Speaker 5: It is, But I'm sure he wasn't backpelling and doing 1335 01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 5: the whole deal. 1336 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,560 Speaker 2: That's why I want to throw it out there, loo. 1337 01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:35,120 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I want to be a little 1338 01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:38,960 Speaker 5: bit concrete with I'm sure it was him probably standing around, 1339 01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,160 Speaker 5: but the fact that he jumped up and caught it 1340 01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:44,800 Speaker 5: with one hand or whatever the I guess the full 1341 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,040 Speaker 5: makeup of that play was. 1342 01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:46,960 Speaker 2: It did happen. 1343 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:51,200 Speaker 3: I just you know, I no, no, no, no, no, I'm sorry. 1344 01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,680 Speaker 3: I've watched too much football in my life. I do 1345 01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:57,200 Speaker 3: not believe that Aaron Rodgers is about to go two 1346 01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:58,800 Speaker 3: to zero versus science. 1347 01:01:59,320 --> 01:01:59,480 Speaker 4: Right. 1348 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,760 Speaker 3: He beat it with the immunization deal, Yeah right, eating 1349 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 3: with that. 1350 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:04,000 Speaker 6: I'm not. 1351 01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:04,440 Speaker 3: I'm not. 1352 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,200 Speaker 2: I'm immunized, not vaccinating, eating with that. 1353 01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:08,880 Speaker 4: No. 1354 01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,320 Speaker 3: I refuse to leave that Aaron Rodgers is gonna beat 1355 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,960 Speaker 3: science twice. I don't care what they say. There's so 1356 01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,280 Speaker 3: many caveats involved, and you know what, I just go 1357 01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,480 Speaker 3: ahead Miami and take care of business tomorrow so we 1358 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,800 Speaker 3: don't have to hear this for the next ten days, 1359 01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:22,840 Speaker 3: because that's all it's gonna be. 1360 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:24,920 Speaker 5: You just wanted to Oh you don't want to happen now, 1361 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,800 Speaker 5: so your take can be true. Oh come on, now, 1362 01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:28,360 Speaker 5: that's what it is. 1363 01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,200 Speaker 2: I like being right. You want to be right. 1364 01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,560 Speaker 3: I like being right. But it just doesn't make sense 1365 01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,560 Speaker 3: to me. If this is like two plus two is cheese, 1366 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:38,080 Speaker 3: like it doesn't like apples and oranges. No, no, no, 1367 01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:38,959 Speaker 3: this is like a steake. 1368 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:39,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, I can't. 1369 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,480 Speaker 3: It makes no sense to me that Aaron Rodgers would 1370 01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:47,080 Speaker 3: be able to come back and defend himself against who's 1371 01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:49,760 Speaker 3: the commanders. I know they traded away every pass one 1372 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:51,919 Speaker 3: soon they had on the team, but still they're gonna 1373 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:53,520 Speaker 3: line four guys up out there. 1374 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,600 Speaker 5: They are, and Aaron Rodgers is gonna pick him apart. 1375 01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,080 Speaker 5: I see it happen, and I hope they when they 1376 01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,960 Speaker 5: win tomorrow and they're six and eight and have a 1377 01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,919 Speaker 5: legit chance to make the playoffs, get ready. 1378 01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:06,400 Speaker 2: So you just want a Ron You just want your 1379 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 2: former team to do well. 1380 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:07,920 Speaker 3: That's what this is. 1381 01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:12,360 Speaker 2: That is correct, But haint hant ay Rob will be back. 1382 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,800 Speaker 3: Ay, Rob will be back, says Carry Rhodes. Approaching a 1383 01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,880 Speaker 3: two minute warning here in Denver and Detroit. Steve de Seger, 1384 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:21,800 Speaker 3: I'm sure it's all over that game and everything else 1385 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:22,920 Speaker 3: in the world of sports. 1386 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:23,880 Speaker 2: Steve, what's going on, my guy? 1387 01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,400 Speaker 8: It is a two minute warning in Detroit. Fourteen tozhing 1388 01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:29,680 Speaker 8: Lions over the Broncos Denver, which is four first downs 1389 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,440 Speaker 8: in the first half. They had a fumble on a 1390 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,560 Speaker 8: strip sack on their first drive in the night. And yeah, 1391 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 8: Jared Goff with two touchdown passes and they're shutting him out. 1392 01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,720 Speaker 8: The first TD pass was nineteen yards to Sam Laporta, 1393 01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,560 Speaker 8: the next one from golf nine yard touchdown pass to 1394 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,360 Speaker 8: Jamier Gibbs. This is the third of three Saturday games 1395 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,760 Speaker 8: in the NFL. Colts beat the Steelers thirty to thirteen. 1396 01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,720 Speaker 8: Gardner Minshew three touchdown passes. Bengals in over time beat 1397 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,400 Speaker 8: the Vikings and a comeback twenty seven to twenty four. 1398 01:03:56,520 --> 01:04:00,640 Speaker 8: Bengals trailed seventeen to three after three quarters. Sew quarterback 1399 01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,480 Speaker 8: Gino Smith, with the groind injury, is questionable for Monday 1400 01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,840 Speaker 8: night against the Eagles. He was limited in practice this 1401 01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:09,040 Speaker 8: week The Texans will start quarterback Case Keenum tomorrow. 1402 01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:09,600 Speaker 2: C J. 1403 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,840 Speaker 8: Stroud is out at Tennessee. He's still in concussion protocol. 1404 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,240 Speaker 8: He missed practice all week. Texans defensive end Will Anderson 1405 01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,160 Speaker 8: is out this weekend. Chiefs coach Andy Reid was fined 1406 01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,800 Speaker 8: one hundred thousand dollars for his criticism of the rest 1407 01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,440 Speaker 8: last Sunday. Quarterback Patrick Mahomes was fined fifty thousand dollars. 1408 01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,560 Speaker 8: Kansas City running back Isaiah Pacheco is out tomorrow. He 1409 01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,400 Speaker 8: had shoulder surgery, but should be back at practice next week. 1410 01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,800 Speaker 8: Washington running back Brian Robinson out for Sunday at the 1411 01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:38,840 Speaker 8: Rams with a hamstring injury. Packers wide receiver Christian Watson 1412 01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,720 Speaker 8: was listed as doubtful with a bad hamstring. As for 1413 01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,960 Speaker 8: college football, the first six bowl games of this postseason 1414 01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:49,160 Speaker 8: and currently the LA Bowl going on in I Wonder 1415 01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,760 Speaker 8: where UCLA against Boise State and the Bruins have scored 1416 01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,880 Speaker 8: so the Boise lead now sixteen to fourteen over UCLA 1417 01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,840 Speaker 8: early in the third quarter and in the opening two minutes. 1418 01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,400 Speaker 8: Cal has scored in the eight night game against Texas 1419 01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,160 Speaker 8: Tech seven to nothing for the Golden Bears. Fresno State 1420 01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,600 Speaker 8: a thirty seven to ten winner over New Mexico State 1421 01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:10,080 Speaker 8: in Albuquerque, Apple Atchian State in the Reign of Orlando 1422 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,920 Speaker 8: won thirteen to nine over Miami, Ohio Jacksonville State with 1423 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,560 Speaker 8: an overtime win in the Superdome thirty four to thirty 1424 01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,880 Speaker 8: one over Louisiana in the New Orleans Bowl, and Ohio 1425 01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,040 Speaker 8: U won its bowl game in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina 1426 01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,840 Speaker 8: forty one twenty one over Georgia Southern. Next Saturday, seven 1427 01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:30,919 Speaker 8: bowl games to college basketball in Indianapolis, Number three rank 1428 01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:34,160 Speaker 8: Perdue beat number one Arizona ninety two to eighty four, 1429 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,560 Speaker 8: Number two Kansas and narrow win at Indiana seventy five 1430 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:41,120 Speaker 8: seventy one. Fourth rank Houston edged Texas A and M 1431 01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,920 Speaker 8: seventy to sixty six. Michigan State in Detroit beat up 1432 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:48,360 Speaker 8: Number six Baylor eighty eight sixty four, and in Atlanta 1433 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,960 Speaker 8: it was Kentucky over North Carolina eighty seven to eighty three. 1434 01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:56,240 Speaker 8: The Detroit Pistons have lost twenty three straight games. That 1435 01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,320 Speaker 8: was the first final in of the ten games in 1436 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,920 Speaker 8: the NBA Tonight, Milwaukee let's Detroit one forty six to 1437 01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:05,440 Speaker 8: one fourteen. Philadelphia has won it six game in a row, 1438 01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:09,000 Speaker 8: one thirty five eighty two at Charlotte. That is a 1439 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,960 Speaker 8: fifty three point victory, reportedly the most lopsided road win 1440 01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,960 Speaker 8: all time in the NBA Joel embiid with forty two points. 1441 01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,280 Speaker 8: And by the way, if you don't read Adam Schefter, 1442 01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:22,440 Speaker 8: it's a little less sensational on the Aaron Rodgers story, 1443 01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 8: Ian Rapaport NFL Network saying Rogers has to be activated 1444 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,120 Speaker 8: off IR by Wednesday to have a chance to play 1445 01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,800 Speaker 8: this season and quote while sources say more discussions are 1446 01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:36,360 Speaker 8: needed on Monday and Tuesday to arrive at a final conclusion. Yes, 1447 01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,400 Speaker 8: tomorrow's game could go a long way to determining what's next, 1448 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,640 Speaker 8: because if they lose, it could be eliminated from the playoffs, 1449 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,480 Speaker 8: and if that happens, Rogers likely not going to be activated. 1450 01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:46,919 Speaker 2: If they do win, they. 1451 01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:50,320 Speaker 8: Keep faint hopes alive for the postseason at six and eight, 1452 01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:54,400 Speaker 8: and then the pendulum quote would likely swing the other direction. 1453 01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,560 Speaker 8: He could be activated to the fifty three man roster, 1454 01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,400 Speaker 8: but still would be unlikely to play next week end. 1455 01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:04,160 Speaker 3: Quote back to you, thanks Steve, and without further ado, 1456 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,200 Speaker 3: one guy I knows plugged in on the New York 1457 01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:09,800 Speaker 3: Jets himself coming on our show right now, Alex Monaco 1458 01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,760 Speaker 3: money Line Monico himself MSG Networks. 1459 01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,240 Speaker 2: And catches his show in the Juice Bar. 1460 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:16,560 Speaker 3: I don't know what time it comes on, but I 1461 01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,600 Speaker 3: know I see it every morning on a rerun on 1462 01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:21,479 Speaker 3: the TVs at work. 1463 01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:22,520 Speaker 2: Alex, how you doing? 1464 01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:23,200 Speaker 3: My friend. 1465 01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:28,320 Speaker 4: Marin Gay, appreciate you having me. Let's go Saturday night. 1466 01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,240 Speaker 4: Let's talk some shop. Baby. We got the Lions. Lions 1467 01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:35,400 Speaker 4: running this old school Madden on the broncos Man like 1468 01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,640 Speaker 4: they haven't worn six to seven. Love to see you. 1469 01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,560 Speaker 3: Look you want to talk about old school Madden? Did 1470 01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,960 Speaker 3: they turn the injuries off in New York? How in 1471 01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,800 Speaker 3: the world are we in a place where Aaron Rodgers came? 1472 01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:49,760 Speaker 3: This could be suiting up as Perry. You heard Steve 1473 01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,080 Speaker 3: de Sager just now and me last segment in disbelief. 1474 01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:57,760 Speaker 3: But it all matters for tomorrow, the Dolphins and the Jets. 1475 01:07:58,040 --> 01:07:59,840 Speaker 3: Do you think the jo have the Jets have a 1476 01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:02,960 Speaker 3: sh shot at winning this thing and keeping the season 1477 01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,680 Speaker 3: alive for Aaron Rodgers all. 1478 01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,720 Speaker 4: Not only do they have a shot, I mean we 1479 01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,280 Speaker 4: have to take the eight and a half. I call 1480 01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,960 Speaker 4: it the castanza double dip. We gotta sprinkle on the 1481 01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,000 Speaker 4: money line plus three fifty shot them. 1482 01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,800 Speaker 3: Boyle, Boyle, who is what thinking of that? 1483 01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:23,320 Speaker 4: In a seventy one, maybe a sixty seven, I don't know, 1484 01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,080 Speaker 4: playing against the Dolphins a cup of coffee go. You know, 1485 01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:29,559 Speaker 4: a couple elements get two times in a month. Tough 1486 01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:33,920 Speaker 4: to beat a team twice. Secondarily, you got the Cowboys 1487 01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,599 Speaker 4: week after. Not gonna say it's a look ahead spot. 1488 01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:40,000 Speaker 4: There's a lot of reasons for the Dolphins team to 1489 01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,920 Speaker 4: just just right off this New York club that has 1490 01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,519 Speaker 4: just run a mook all over quarterbacks. I mean, Stroud 1491 01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,880 Speaker 4: held under one hundred. We hope he's all right for 1492 01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:50,920 Speaker 4: this week. Not looking like it. But this is a 1493 01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,280 Speaker 4: defense that keeps you in every game. And this is 1494 01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:56,599 Speaker 4: a scary Jack Wilson with nothing to lose. I mean, 1495 01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:01,200 Speaker 4: you gotta be serious, nothing to lose on the podium 1496 01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,880 Speaker 4: saying what's the worst that could happen? I lose my 1497 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:07,880 Speaker 4: job again with Garry Rodgers in the I mean, come on, 1498 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:08,639 Speaker 4: I keep. 1499 01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:11,000 Speaker 5: Going, Alex, what do you think is going on with 1500 01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,800 Speaker 5: this Dolphins team right now? Obviously we can see that 1501 01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,320 Speaker 5: it seems like to have a confidence issue. In big 1502 01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,840 Speaker 5: time games, and so I'm not saying that this game 1503 01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:20,839 Speaker 5: is a big time game, but they're dealing with injuries 1504 01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,080 Speaker 5: as well. What do you see the psyche of this 1505 01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:24,200 Speaker 5: Miami Dolphins team. 1506 01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,720 Speaker 4: I mean, Garrett, for the first thing mcgalel needs to 1507 01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:30,920 Speaker 4: do is roll down the sweatpans and stop and joining 1508 01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:34,360 Speaker 4: himself so much hard knocked midweek here, I mean, how 1509 01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:38,240 Speaker 4: many times do we have to watch this sho cow 1510 01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:42,160 Speaker 4: start in the three to ZHO five defense get ran over. 1511 01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:46,439 Speaker 4: I mean, Dick Sangil looks like he is too old 1512 01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:49,920 Speaker 4: for today's twenty twenty three offenses. I mean, let's call 1513 01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,760 Speaker 4: a Spanish space. This is a Miami defense right there 1514 01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,840 Speaker 4: in the middle of a pass, wouldn't you in the 1515 01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:58,400 Speaker 4: first time make history up to two tunnies with three 1516 01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:02,720 Speaker 4: minutes ago? I lost real Christmas, come money, Oh Monday night. 1517 01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,920 Speaker 4: I brought back my guy DeVito and that cut what's 1518 01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:08,759 Speaker 4: for everybody? So I don't know what's going on in Miami. 1519 01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,320 Speaker 4: I think there's a team that's lost. Of the Bills, 1520 01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,960 Speaker 4: that's lots of the Eagles, that's lost, of the TV. 1521 01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:18,519 Speaker 4: Who's the third big that it was the Eagle Sunday 1522 01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:20,920 Speaker 4: night jeez, I'm thinking of the Chiefs, cause, thank you, 1523 01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,640 Speaker 4: I'm thinking of the big Juggernaut three big chugger, not 1524 01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,400 Speaker 4: damn that showed up and showed out against anyone can 1525 01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:30,360 Speaker 4: look good against mediocre competition with that kind of offensive personnel. 1526 01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,040 Speaker 4: They don't get it right out defensive going nowhere, gentlemen, 1527 01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:34,320 Speaker 4: in the playoffs. 1528 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,760 Speaker 2: So from one, as you said, so cal soft in 1529 01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:38,519 Speaker 2: a three oh five. 1530 01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,560 Speaker 3: Well, uh, maybe bradest Daily's in Miami right now on 1531 01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,200 Speaker 3: the beat sip of the mind tie because he damn 1532 01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,479 Speaker 3: sure as a coaching next week for the Chargers. Uh, 1533 01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,400 Speaker 3: what was your take on Thursday night when you watched 1534 01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:52,280 Speaker 3: Aidan O'Connell march down the field? I mean, Jakobe Myers 1535 01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,120 Speaker 3: had two completions in that game. He plays wide receiver, Alex. 1536 01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,080 Speaker 4: I mean you you already know what it is, Martin. 1537 01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,519 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm I'm a covering San Diego Charger fan 1538 01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,520 Speaker 4: down the Disneyland Freeway from where you guys are broadcasting 1539 01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,599 Speaker 4: as we speak. I've been watching this song and dance 1540 01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:11,120 Speaker 4: for years. Everybody owes a handwritten apology to Anthony Lynn. 1541 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,640 Speaker 4: I don't know what Spanos was doing, Thank goodness, they 1542 01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:18,280 Speaker 4: did a full court sweeps here and got Tommy two times. 1543 01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,839 Speaker 4: TI let's go out there as well. How many times 1544 01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:24,640 Speaker 4: can make this dibble path? Because of seventy seven degrees 1545 01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:29,360 Speaker 4: out in December and everyone's still enjoying themselves winning losing 1546 01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:32,439 Speaker 4: the beach. Somebody needs to hold someone accountable. I'm glad 1547 01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:34,960 Speaker 4: Spannels stepped up and did it. Shout out Twitter for 1548 01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,000 Speaker 4: the Johnny Stocks and the shift. I think the whole 1549 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:40,320 Speaker 4: world talking Sherman at halftime saying he needs to go. 1550 01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:42,519 Speaker 4: He needs to go. I mean, how long are the 1551 01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:46,519 Speaker 4: leash you're doing? You're doing what kind of stretches? You know? 1552 01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:48,920 Speaker 4: You can't stretch before the game if you can't win 1553 01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,599 Speaker 4: a game, that's just breaking wed and crosses rule number six. 1554 01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:53,920 Speaker 4: Drawing attention is help for the negative way I'm stucking. 1555 01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,840 Speaker 4: He needs to do him all favors and not coach 1556 01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,960 Speaker 4: for anybody else for it. Why I take this moment 1557 01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,920 Speaker 4: to advocate for Rex Ryance. I think a we're talking 1558 01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:10,160 Speaker 4: DELI check, sure, that's funny, that's leave yes as it. 1559 01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:14,120 Speaker 4: Why not bring Rex, a guy that's set a culture 1560 01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,960 Speaker 4: in one of the oldest sports cities, to do it. 1561 01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:22,439 Speaker 4: Never really had a great quarterback. Let's see San Diego. Now, 1562 01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,880 Speaker 4: LA get it right at the head coach and the 1563 01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,360 Speaker 4: quarterback at the same time. Something that they've made way 1564 01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,000 Speaker 4: more difficult than they needed to have over the decade. 1565 01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:34,080 Speaker 5: I've lift Alex, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta come 1566 01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:35,640 Speaker 5: back at you about that Rex Ryan one. 1567 01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:36,800 Speaker 2: Now, that's that's a. 1568 01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:41,639 Speaker 5: He's he's a really good motivator, a really good defensive coach. 1569 01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:43,600 Speaker 5: If they want to bring him in for that, I 1570 01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:45,880 Speaker 5: can see that head coach you want to you want 1571 01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:49,639 Speaker 5: somebody else that can handle handle the big the big scope, 1572 01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:51,800 Speaker 5: the big picture of what La would bring to him. 1573 01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:53,680 Speaker 5: And I don't think he's that guy. Think he'd be 1574 01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:57,160 Speaker 5: a great defensive coordinator. But let's talk about the Chargers still. 1575 01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,120 Speaker 5: Let's let's piggyback on that a little bit more. Though 1576 01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:01,479 Speaker 5: we talked about it. Martin said it in the first 1577 01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:04,960 Speaker 5: hour talking about you know, is the Chargers situation a 1578 01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:06,760 Speaker 5: real desirable one? 1579 01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:08,080 Speaker 2: Right now? Right? 1580 01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:11,760 Speaker 5: We come into every year thinking they're super talented, they 1581 01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,800 Speaker 5: got the quarterback they need, and they should win and 1582 01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:19,160 Speaker 5: they've come up short here every year. Right, Is this 1583 01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,479 Speaker 5: situation a real desirable situation? 1584 01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:23,000 Speaker 2: And if so, why. 1585 01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:28,240 Speaker 4: I mean, look again, I'm a little biased being emotionally 1586 01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,280 Speaker 4: attached to this toxic accident as the LA Chargers thinks 1587 01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,559 Speaker 4: to span up. I mean again, I grew up, watched 1588 01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,479 Speaker 4: the stadium crumble and then then go up a freeway 1589 01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,320 Speaker 4: and be a tenant of a building. So I got 1590 01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,519 Speaker 4: a lot of two things to say, all things to 1591 01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:43,760 Speaker 4: say about this team, but they answered the question. I 1592 01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:47,519 Speaker 4: don't know how it's not desirable. It's again, Herbert needs 1593 01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:51,160 Speaker 4: to prove to be honest a whole MVT type season 1594 01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,519 Speaker 4: to get back in the top five conversations. He has 1595 01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:57,599 Speaker 4: absolutely moved down to MySpace topic. No way, this guy's 1596 01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:01,080 Speaker 4: in the top five conversation this year's I'm sorry, I'm 1597 01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:04,799 Speaker 4: sick of them not delivering in this team going nowhere. 1598 01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:06,960 Speaker 4: He needs to win a playoff game and be held 1599 01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:10,880 Speaker 4: to the same standard. But it is incredibly an appetizing 1600 01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,600 Speaker 4: job for someone coming in because there's a lot of 1601 01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:15,840 Speaker 4: infrastructure built. I mean, this is a team that's got 1602 01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:19,280 Speaker 4: pretty good trenches on both sides. Any time you got 1603 01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,200 Speaker 4: both of them, Mac in the front seven with Derwin 1604 01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:24,720 Speaker 4: in the back, but Herbert healthy, I guess you give 1605 01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,400 Speaker 4: Kellen Moore another go. I mean, I don't really know 1606 01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:31,720 Speaker 4: what's going on internally in the locker room. So all 1607 01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:35,760 Speaker 4: that to say, great, great spot for someone coming in 1608 01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:37,600 Speaker 4: that can really be a leader of menment. That's what 1609 01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:41,200 Speaker 4: they heat. There's no culture. And again I've lived there. 1610 01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,559 Speaker 4: You guys are living there. There's a lot of reasons 1611 01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,479 Speaker 4: to enjoy yourself, even if you go six and eleven. 1612 01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:51,719 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm living in this seasonal depression right now, freezing, 1613 01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:55,560 Speaker 4: leaving work wrapped in five sil cal layers incorrectly in 1614 01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,240 Speaker 4: New York. You don't win over here. You're pissed off 1615 01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,560 Speaker 4: over there. You're still going to the beach speaking on 1616 01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:03,000 Speaker 4: New York. 1617 01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:03,880 Speaker 2: I got it real quick. 1618 01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:05,560 Speaker 3: I got to ask you, is this the week that 1619 01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:07,720 Speaker 3: Tommy DeVito comes back down to Earth or are they 1620 01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:09,040 Speaker 3: gonna go ahead and roll the Saints. 1621 01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:13,960 Speaker 4: Well, I gotta first give some flowers to my guy Martin. 1622 01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,800 Speaker 4: You're not only telling you what Derek Carr was not 1623 01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,240 Speaker 4: gonna do on the field this year and trying to 1624 01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:21,519 Speaker 4: talk me out of all things Saints in the South, 1625 01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,040 Speaker 4: but you, I mean you called that to a te 1626 01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:27,439 Speaker 4: preseason all the way through, So that real quick. But 1627 01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,000 Speaker 4: to answer the question, I mean, how do we not 1628 01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,679 Speaker 4: take the six. The Saints are the worst favorite cover 1629 01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:37,120 Speaker 4: in the league to two eight and one against the 1630 01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:41,519 Speaker 4: spread this season, most ats losses as a favorite. I 1631 01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:45,280 Speaker 4: mean Tommy Cutlets. I got my mom changed in Christmas 1632 01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:49,400 Speaker 4: Eve dinner, my Italian mom the cutlets because of this guy. 1633 01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:53,519 Speaker 4: Seventy two percent per percentage and he taking care of 1634 01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:57,320 Speaker 4: the Rocks, and that's really stable. He's them up. This 1635 01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,280 Speaker 4: is a bad Saints d that's given up what I 1636 01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,240 Speaker 4: got my notes tradd here, Carol. I had to toyl though, 1637 01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,479 Speaker 4: but two hundred rush shards against him. They just have 1638 01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,519 Speaker 4: to give two six a Rock who already wants to 1639 01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,400 Speaker 4: make it up to a team. After slipping on the 1640 01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:12,040 Speaker 4: Mario Carpanan appeal and almost coping them the game on 1641 01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:16,160 Speaker 4: nacial television, they turn it around. Hey run the Rocks day? 1642 01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:19,240 Speaker 4: What car doing things? Like Martin said all year, I 1643 01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:21,800 Speaker 4: don't know how you don't cover. But again, they're one 1644 01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:23,720 Speaker 4: game out of the playoff picture. I think you have 1645 01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:25,519 Speaker 4: to sprinkle again on the money line. This is a 1646 01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:28,599 Speaker 4: week Martindale defense that is bending in that break. 1647 01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,679 Speaker 3: Look, first of all, I'm all over it, Alex Monico, 1648 01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:32,800 Speaker 3: You're always all over it. 1649 01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:34,400 Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us. 1650 01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:37,800 Speaker 3: He's on Twitter at Moneyline Monico on MSG with our 1651 01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:40,719 Speaker 3: guys Sean Little as well for the juice bar, and he's. 1652 01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:41,240 Speaker 2: All over the place. 1653 01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:44,160 Speaker 3: Look Knicks pregame. If you be in New York, you're 1654 01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:46,920 Speaker 3: not missing Alex Monico. Thank you for joining the show today. 1655 01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:48,040 Speaker 3: Appreciate you, my friend, Alex. 1656 01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:51,240 Speaker 4: Appreciate your brother, Hey, appreciate you boys. Enjoy it all right. 1657 01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,960 Speaker 3: Coming up next, he just touched on a little bit. 1658 01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:56,760 Speaker 3: Is our version of upset Alert. We like to call 1659 01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,599 Speaker 3: it the Atomic Dogs. Martin Westkerry Roads, Fox Words Radio 1660 01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,200 Speaker 3: coming to you live from the tyreck dot Com Studios. 1661 01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:08,439 Speaker 3: It's Carrie Rhodes and Martin Weiss VJ Husky out uh 1662 01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:13,000 Speaker 3: playing sick today. Hopefully he feels better soon and back 1663 01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:15,559 Speaker 3: on the air as soon as possible. If you want 1664 01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:18,599 Speaker 3: to get at us on Twitter, you can. I'm at 1665 01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:22,320 Speaker 3: Martin Weise, Carrie is at Carrie twenty five. 1666 01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:26,160 Speaker 2: Rhodes like this guy, Markoofski. 1667 01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:28,960 Speaker 3: He said he's pleasantly surprised by the play of Brock Berdy, 1668 01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,679 Speaker 3: who's played well. Thought his best game was the loss 1669 01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:35,000 Speaker 3: to Cleveland with dout left tackle Trent Williams and Christian 1670 01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,600 Speaker 3: McCaffrey and Dee Bovarus. A nasty defense that had a 1671 01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:40,080 Speaker 3: bad game. He still got forty nine ers into position 1672 01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:43,240 Speaker 3: to win, but the kicker missed the field goal. Man. 1673 01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:45,360 Speaker 2: He used all two hundred and eighty on that tweek. 1674 01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:47,600 Speaker 2: That was a lot, it was. That was yeah, he 1675 01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:49,439 Speaker 2: was trying to exact revenge on somebody. 1676 01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:53,479 Speaker 3: Poor Jake, Poor Jake Moody, Michigan kicker drafted in the 1677 01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:56,640 Speaker 3: third round Robbie Gold officially announcer's retirement. You see that. 1678 01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,519 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I did see that. I didn't see officially 1679 01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,040 Speaker 3: announcers time a few weeks ago. I know right now, 1680 01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:04,840 Speaker 3: my friend Mike's oilver up there and San Francisco is 1681 01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:07,760 Speaker 3: losing his mind. But now, carry you played the game. 1682 01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:10,479 Speaker 3: I picked the games. Let's see how good you are 1683 01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:12,679 Speaker 3: doing this. It's time for the atomic dogs. 1684 01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:20,599 Speaker 6: They may be me, they may be ugly, but it's 1685 01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:26,800 Speaker 6: time to open the case because these dogs are gonna 1686 01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,919 Speaker 6: keep barking if they don't get fat. 1687 01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:40,160 Speaker 3: And they're hungry. It's time for the atomic dogs. 1688 01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:40,920 Speaker 2: Carry away. 1689 01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:41,400 Speaker 4: We do this. 1690 01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:44,760 Speaker 2: Wait, why are the dogs sounds so non scary? Though? 1691 01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,040 Speaker 3: Hey, you know what, because I didn't do the imager, 1692 01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:49,120 Speaker 3: and that's why I was like, Okay, but no, we 1693 01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:50,479 Speaker 3: can't do the imaging. 1694 01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:54,360 Speaker 2: My first atomic dog. My team want upset alert. 1695 01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:57,479 Speaker 3: Right now, I'm going with Tommy Cuttlet's say in the 1696 01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:00,719 Speaker 3: passing Pizon, all right, give me the New York Giants 1697 01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:04,280 Speaker 3: five and eight against the New Orleans Saints six and seven. 1698 01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:05,840 Speaker 3: Who in the hell of the New Orleans Saints of 1699 01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:07,160 Speaker 3: lay six and a half? Boys, you only got the 1700 01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:10,000 Speaker 3: worst coaching quarterback combination of the league. Give me Tommy 1701 01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:11,799 Speaker 3: Cutler's right now, the New York Giants. 1702 01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:13,160 Speaker 2: You like that one? 1703 01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:13,439 Speaker 4: Huh? 1704 01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:17,599 Speaker 2: I do the Giants over set? I don't even know. Okay, 1705 01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:22,360 Speaker 2: I'll give you that my underdog pick for this week. 1706 01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:25,240 Speaker 2: You know I gotta do it, Do. 1707 01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:25,760 Speaker 1: Ahead, do it. 1708 01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:27,280 Speaker 2: You know I gotta do it. Go ahead and do 1709 01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:29,040 Speaker 2: it because I want my boy and Rodgers to come 1710 01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:32,760 Speaker 2: back next week. Just prove me wrong. I'm going Jets 1711 01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:36,960 Speaker 2: over Dolphins. They're a minus eight and a half right now. 1712 01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:40,160 Speaker 5: That's a big, one, massive spread, But I'm gonna take 1713 01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,559 Speaker 5: the Jets to win out right Sunday, Get your pop 1714 01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:44,479 Speaker 5: going ready, Brandon. 1715 01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:46,280 Speaker 3: I'm sorry to do this to you. My second dog 1716 01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:49,080 Speaker 3: of the week. The Dallas Cowboys. I get there five 1717 01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:52,280 Speaker 3: hundred on the road. They're two point underdogs right now. 1718 01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:55,120 Speaker 3: It's not the juiciest, but I just look, the Bills 1719 01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:56,800 Speaker 3: have been up and down and up and down and 1720 01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:58,800 Speaker 3: up and down. In the Carderius Tony lined up six 1721 01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,439 Speaker 3: inches backwards. He would have been down last week. So 1722 01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,679 Speaker 3: let me be down this week. Give me the Dallas Cowboys. 1723 01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:04,320 Speaker 3: You got another one. 1724 01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:05,280 Speaker 2: I got one more. 1725 01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:09,800 Speaker 5: I believe in the team who's the favorite, but I 1726 01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:12,240 Speaker 5: can see this team sneaking up and getting to win. 1727 01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:15,879 Speaker 5: The plan better quarterback back. I'm gonna take the Bears 1728 01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:19,560 Speaker 5: over Clay that as a as a sleeper pick. The 1729 01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:23,320 Speaker 5: Bears are plan well Field is playing well. I'm gonna 1730 01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:25,080 Speaker 5: I'm gonna. I'm gonna ride with the Bears in that one. 1731 01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:26,400 Speaker 5: Even though I you know, I like Cleveland. 1732 01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:28,800 Speaker 3: It is just a really honestly a strange world that 1733 01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:31,320 Speaker 3: we live in in that Joe Flacco is a three 1734 01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:32,240 Speaker 3: point favorite. 1735 01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:35,880 Speaker 2: That's nuts. My last dog. 1736 01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:39,040 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go ahead and go with the Seattle Seahawks 1737 01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:42,080 Speaker 3: over the Philadelphia Eagles. The forty nine Ers lost three 1738 01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,680 Speaker 3: straight this year. I think the Eagles gonna lose three 1739 01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,080 Speaker 3: straight here as long as you know Smith plays, Get 1740 01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:50,200 Speaker 3: well soon, Gina, we missed you. 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We'll help you get 1749 01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:11,599 Speaker 3: there with the unmaxed selection, fast free shipping, free road 1750 01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:13,680 Speaker 3: as of protection, and over ten thousand recommended to this 1751 01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:15,360 Speaker 3: dollars ti iraq dot com. 1752 01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,160 Speaker 2: It's the way tire buying should be. 1753 01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:19,920 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson just threw a touchdown pass to one of 1754 01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:23,439 Speaker 3: my favorite names in the NFL, Little Jordan Humphrey. Or 1755 01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:25,479 Speaker 3: did he carry because you pointed at me it looked 1756 01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:25,600 Speaker 3: like that. 1757 01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:27,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, you said it. You called it. 1758 01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:29,400 Speaker 5: You didn't think it was a touchdown. You thought it 1759 01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:31,559 Speaker 5: hit the ground. It might it moved a little bit, 1760 01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,320 Speaker 5: might be, so might be some trouble. So the reason 1761 01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:35,640 Speaker 5: why I feel like I have a great eye for 1762 01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:38,519 Speaker 5: the second stuff. Right when I was a kid, as 1763 01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:40,400 Speaker 5: long as I got good grades, I was able to 1764 01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:41,280 Speaker 5: go to the Saints games. 1765 01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:42,760 Speaker 2: The Saints were terrible at the time. 1766 01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:45,000 Speaker 3: Who wearing bags over the head, so the tickets couldn't 1767 01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,720 Speaker 3: have been that crazy, But that was that was my gift, right, 1768 01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:49,679 Speaker 3: you gotta go to the Saints game on Sunday because 1769 01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:53,080 Speaker 3: they always played on Sunday. It was never a Monday 1770 01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:55,519 Speaker 3: night or anything like that because they. 1771 01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:56,479 Speaker 2: Stunk all right. 1772 01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,880 Speaker 3: But we would sit up in the stands and where 1773 01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,920 Speaker 3: we sat, essentially is one of the views now for 1774 01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:05,719 Speaker 3: All twenty two. But I didn't know what All twenty 1775 01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,200 Speaker 3: two was as a seven, eight, ten, you know, twelve 1776 01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:09,920 Speaker 3: year old, right, Yeah, I don't think you would know that. 1777 01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:11,760 Speaker 3: I didn't know it was, but I just told But 1778 01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:14,519 Speaker 3: I was growing up watching the whole field. Right then 1779 01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:17,800 Speaker 3: you add in that the guy next to us for 1780 01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:20,560 Speaker 3: like ten years, he would sit there and be like, 1781 01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:22,559 Speaker 3: that's a hole in the refel car, it's a whole 1782 01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,360 Speaker 3: that's passing the ference. He's reference, sir, it up fifteen 1783 01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:27,640 Speaker 3: yards on the defense. Like, man, how did you see this? 1784 01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:31,160 Speaker 2: He was a high school referee, the guy who sat 1785 01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:32,920 Speaker 2: next to us for ten something years. 1786 01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,560 Speaker 3: So after a while I was able to see, like, 1787 01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,920 Speaker 3: that's a false start, and then Michael nextly would be like, 1788 01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:40,000 Speaker 3: good job, right. 1789 01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:41,640 Speaker 1: I like that. 1790 01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:43,280 Speaker 3: So I ended up looking at it. 1791 01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:43,960 Speaker 2: I feel like I was. 1792 01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:47,320 Speaker 3: I learned football watching it in all twenty two angle 1793 01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:48,080 Speaker 3: on accident. 1794 01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:49,840 Speaker 2: That's a right story. 1795 01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:51,880 Speaker 5: I want to know how much those tickets were though, 1796 01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:54,479 Speaker 5: If you're going every week, we had season ticket Oh yeah, 1797 01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:56,040 Speaker 5: oh you guys have season tickets. 1798 01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:57,760 Speaker 2: Get the ticket hold, go it. That's why we were 1799 01:22:57,800 --> 01:22:59,599 Speaker 2: in the same seat every week, season ticket hold. 1800 01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:01,640 Speaker 3: I mean, you don't get me wrong. I'm sure they 1801 01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:05,439 Speaker 3: were expensive, but like not like they were in two 1802 01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,880 Speaker 3: thousand and eight, nine, ten, when Drew Brees had the 1803 01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:08,800 Speaker 3: don't rocket right? 1804 01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:10,519 Speaker 2: What years were those when you were when you were going, 1805 01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:11,600 Speaker 2: oh gosh. 1806 01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:15,479 Speaker 5: The Jeff Blake to Aaron Brooks Arrow New Orleans that 1807 01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:17,400 Speaker 5: was still New Orleans, San Francisco and all those in 1808 01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:18,080 Speaker 5: the same divisions. 1809 01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:22,160 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, it was JT. O. Sullivan now famous 1810 01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:24,960 Speaker 3: of the QB school. I remember I'm old enough to 1811 01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:28,240 Speaker 3: remember Jto Sullivan as the emergency quarterback for New Orleans. 1812 01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:30,040 Speaker 2: So there you go. 1813 01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:35,840 Speaker 5: Wait, yes, so you had to be super loyal to 1814 01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:40,360 Speaker 5: a team that wasn't good. What what about them kept 1815 01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,559 Speaker 5: making you go back? To see them just because your 1816 01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:44,920 Speaker 5: love of football, or was there somebody on the team 1817 01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:46,320 Speaker 5: that was still like a favorite. 1818 01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:49,799 Speaker 3: Player or what was it like Like many other NFL fans, 1819 01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:53,000 Speaker 3: I made a decision at seven years old that impacted 1820 01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:56,120 Speaker 3: the rest of my life and moved every Monday during 1821 01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:59,479 Speaker 3: football season. It's the touchdowns stood there, touchdown still, Okay, 1822 01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:01,160 Speaker 3: there you go, he said, I got these hands. 1823 01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:04,479 Speaker 2: Little Jordan up, go ahead, go ahead. Little Jordan's where 1824 01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:06,679 Speaker 2: big Jordan is? So you just you just got stuck. 1825 01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:08,879 Speaker 2: You just got stuck with him because you made that decision. 1826 01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:09,200 Speaker 6: Team. 1827 01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:10,800 Speaker 2: I grew up watching it. Got it. 1828 01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:12,320 Speaker 3: My dad used to make fun of me all the 1829 01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:15,120 Speaker 3: time too, you know he was He would say that, 1830 01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:16,920 Speaker 3: you know the graphic on the screen, It was like, 1831 01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:19,400 Speaker 3: right now it says den and and D E N 1832 01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:21,960 Speaker 3: and d E T for Denver and Detroit. He would 1833 01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:26,200 Speaker 3: say the n O no just for no team, no 1834 01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:30,360 Speaker 3: no teams as Michael Vick and the Atlanta Falcons just 1835 01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:34,479 Speaker 3: running rough shot war done or you know Mike allstart, 1836 01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:38,800 Speaker 3: you know, just watching these guys boom boom. 1837 01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:39,120 Speaker 4: Oh. 1838 01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, we didn't want to tap him at all, I believe. Yeah, 1839 01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:42,720 Speaker 5: that was that was a big no no, if he 1840 01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:45,840 Speaker 5: was coming down downhill full speed, it was you made 1841 01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:48,920 Speaker 5: a business decision, for sure. I always did like the Jets, 1842 01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:49,880 Speaker 5: though you did. 1843 01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,960 Speaker 3: I did because you know, my fandom rules said I 1844 01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:54,760 Speaker 3: was gonna allow like anybody else in the NFC. 1845 01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:58,839 Speaker 2: And so they had Wayne Corbett ye Qubette out of Hofstra. 1846 01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:02,240 Speaker 3: Yep, you know Chad Pennington, those teams, Curtis my favorite, 1847 01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:05,360 Speaker 3: Marshal urt Is my favorite, Mark those I like those. 1848 01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:09,160 Speaker 5: It's crazy because I played with a couple of those guys, 1849 01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:12,160 Speaker 5: all of those guys obviously when I as a rookie. 1850 01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:15,200 Speaker 5: I think my rookie year was Curtis's last last year, 1851 01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:17,439 Speaker 5: and Chad Me and Chad played a couple of years. 1852 01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:19,720 Speaker 5: And I think my rookie year was Wayne's last year too, 1853 01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:21,559 Speaker 5: So I got I got a little. 1854 01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:23,240 Speaker 2: Bit of that action too. You know who the last 1855 01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:28,280 Speaker 2: football player from Hofstra was the last one from host 1856 01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:31,479 Speaker 2: the last the last one because hafsher closed their football program. 1857 01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:32,920 Speaker 5: Well, I don't know who the last one is, but 1858 01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:35,519 Speaker 5: I know one that played with your team that was 1859 01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:37,920 Speaker 5: that you could have rooted for, and that was Marcus Colston. 1860 01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:40,080 Speaker 2: Gotcha. 1861 01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:42,519 Speaker 3: He was the last active player in the NFL from 1862 01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:44,439 Speaker 3: the University of Hostra. So just in case that's on 1863 01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,439 Speaker 3: ever on Final Jeopardy. Now, you know that's why you're 1864 01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:50,240 Speaker 3: tuned in right now to get information like that. All right, 1865 01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:53,240 Speaker 3: let's go talking about yesterday. Looking life in the RuView mirror. 1866 01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:55,240 Speaker 3: Go ahead, press forwards, put our foot on the gas, 1867 01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:57,720 Speaker 3: put it in drive, and look at this Bills and 1868 01:25:57,800 --> 01:25:58,720 Speaker 3: the Cowboys game. 1869 01:25:59,120 --> 01:25:59,479 Speaker 2: All right. 1870 01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:01,920 Speaker 3: The Bill was favored by two points in this matchup, 1871 01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:04,640 Speaker 3: which to me seems very interesting and is one of 1872 01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:07,240 Speaker 3: these that as a gambler, makes me makes my skin 1873 01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:09,519 Speaker 3: crawl a little bit because I don't know why, but 1874 01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:13,600 Speaker 3: what are you expecting to see this Bills team and 1875 01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:15,639 Speaker 3: the Cowboys out of the Bill's been up and down 1876 01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:16,200 Speaker 3: all season? 1877 01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:16,559 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1878 01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:19,160 Speaker 3: Uh, depending on how you looked at it, got blessed 1879 01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,760 Speaker 3: in Kansas City. I tend to think, just line up 1880 01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:25,240 Speaker 3: on sides, bro and you know everything is fine. But 1881 01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:28,080 Speaker 3: you got that with the Bills who started out Sean 1882 01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:30,640 Speaker 3: McDermott and the big article that came out kind of 1883 01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:33,400 Speaker 3: saying he's the big problem with this team. 1884 01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:34,320 Speaker 2: And then the. 1885 01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:37,719 Speaker 3: Cowboys, who three and three on the road but complete 1886 01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:41,639 Speaker 3: world beaters at home. This game being played in Buffalo, Cowboys, 1887 01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:44,920 Speaker 3: Dak Prescott MVP. Favorite depends on where your shop. What 1888 01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:47,000 Speaker 3: are you expecting to see tomorrow night? Yeah, this is 1889 01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:50,599 Speaker 3: an interesting game. Buffalo is a team that I wasn't 1890 01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:52,320 Speaker 3: high on coming into the year. I had a lot 1891 01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:55,320 Speaker 3: of noise that was starting to you know, matriculate out 1892 01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,240 Speaker 3: of that out of that program. And once you saw 1893 01:26:57,320 --> 01:26:59,960 Speaker 3: having those things happen, it's usually not good for your team. 1894 01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:02,800 Speaker 3: You know, there's a level of success once you started 1895 01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:05,720 Speaker 3: reaching that and you're consistently good, but you can't get 1896 01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:08,120 Speaker 3: over the hump. You have guys that start to play 1897 01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:10,160 Speaker 3: for themselves and start playing for other things, right, And 1898 01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:13,360 Speaker 3: so that's what I kind of felt about them, and 1899 01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:15,479 Speaker 3: it's kind of play. It's kind of, you know, been 1900 01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:17,679 Speaker 3: true to form here as we speak, they're seven and six, 1901 01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,800 Speaker 3: they're playing okay football. They're one of those teams that 1902 01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:23,400 Speaker 3: if they do get hot, they could be they could 1903 01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:26,000 Speaker 3: be a challenge for a lot of people. But I 1904 01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:28,800 Speaker 3: see and the other point you made with Dallas playing 1905 01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,559 Speaker 3: so tough, so inconsistent on the road, that's what makes 1906 01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:33,679 Speaker 3: it hard because if they were at home, I picked 1907 01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:36,320 Speaker 3: Dallas easily here, but the fact they're on the road 1908 01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:38,720 Speaker 3: in Buffalo. It's gonna be tough, but I'll still take 1909 01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:40,679 Speaker 3: Dallas to win this game. I just don't think Buffalo 1910 01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:44,519 Speaker 3: has been consistently good enough to win these type of games. 1911 01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:48,800 Speaker 3: And I mean there were let's be clear, they had 1912 01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:52,280 Speaker 3: the ball in Kansas City with less than three minutes left. 1913 01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:54,840 Speaker 2: I think it was two twenty six total. 1914 01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:59,160 Speaker 3: They on the clock, They ran six plays, and Kansas 1915 01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:02,000 Speaker 3: City had the ball back with a minute forty five, right, like, 1916 01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:04,360 Speaker 3: that's a minute fifty four rather and then that the 1917 01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:06,519 Speaker 3: play with ka Tony happened with a minute forty five 1918 01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:08,880 Speaker 3: for four o'clock. So, first of all, there's tons there 1919 01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:10,680 Speaker 3: was way more time for you to actually win the game, 1920 01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,200 Speaker 3: Kansas City, for all the bitching and moaning that you 1921 01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:13,559 Speaker 3: were doing. 1922 01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:17,639 Speaker 2: But still they almost tried to blow that one. Yes, 1923 01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:19,840 Speaker 2: they almost tried to blow that one. 1924 01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:23,400 Speaker 3: And I think Sean McDermott probably Oweskadarius Tony an edible 1925 01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:26,599 Speaker 3: arrangement for lining up all sides, if not a job, 1926 01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:28,640 Speaker 3: when is his all said and done in Kansas City? 1927 01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:31,439 Speaker 3: Because I don't know how much longer he'll be out there? Yeah, Hell, 1928 01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:33,320 Speaker 3: who knows how must longer? Sean McDermot will be out 1929 01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:37,240 Speaker 3: there because if they lose this game, all of the conversation, 1930 01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:39,760 Speaker 3: all of the talk. I mean, you remember when that 1931 01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:43,280 Speaker 3: peace came out by Tyler Dunn, the two thousand word Yeah, 1932 01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:48,000 Speaker 3: I mean essay essentially just excoriating Doug mcderman. It's not 1933 01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:51,360 Speaker 3: the Dermot Sean McDermott and his whole nine to eleven 1934 01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:55,720 Speaker 3: jokes and his late game adjustments and how he never 1935 01:28:55,840 --> 01:29:00,320 Speaker 3: really addressed the thirteen second moment in Kansas City years 1936 01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:03,040 Speaker 3: ago when Tyreek Hill ran right past Matt Milano in coverage. 1937 01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:05,599 Speaker 2: Who could have seen that coming? Right, Matt Milana? Who's 1938 01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:06,360 Speaker 2: hurt right now? 1939 01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:08,680 Speaker 3: For you know, I mean, they're missing some of the 1940 01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:12,200 Speaker 3: safeties defensive defensively, I think they've taken a step back. 1941 01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:15,200 Speaker 3: You had Leslie Fraser talk about the offseason noise, had 1942 01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:17,880 Speaker 3: Leslie Fraser who said, you know, I'm gonna go ahead 1943 01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,400 Speaker 3: and take some time away. But the thing that triggered 1944 01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:23,280 Speaker 3: my brain, it's like, wait a minute, Leslie Fraser stepped 1945 01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:25,680 Speaker 3: away from the team. You know this maybe hell maybe this, 1946 01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:27,519 Speaker 3: and I wish him the best, but he's still going 1947 01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:30,840 Speaker 3: all the minority coaching symposiums. That doesn't seem like a 1948 01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,640 Speaker 3: guy who doesn't want to coach. Well he wasn't, you 1949 01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:35,439 Speaker 3: know in the summer, Like that didn't seem like a 1950 01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:37,800 Speaker 3: guy who didn't want to coach. You wouldn't be going 1951 01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:39,960 Speaker 3: to those types of things, which the whole point is 1952 01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:42,080 Speaker 3: to try to get, you know, owners to get their 1953 01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:44,439 Speaker 3: eyes on minority coaches. Which is right, that's a that's 1954 01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:46,720 Speaker 3: a conversation for a different segment right now. But still 1955 01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:49,040 Speaker 3: he was going, right, he was going like, you don't 1956 01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:50,439 Speaker 3: do that if you don't want to coach. 1957 01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:53,080 Speaker 2: So I agree. 1958 01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:56,320 Speaker 3: He had Sean McDermott saying the whole deal, Oh, it's 1959 01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:59,360 Speaker 3: not a big deal that Stefan Diggs isn't in training camp, 1960 01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:01,000 Speaker 3: or it is a big deal that Stefan Diggers is 1961 01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:02,799 Speaker 3: a training camp, but we're not sure. Then they canceled 1962 01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:05,840 Speaker 3: camp the next day, like a lot going on with that. 1963 01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:08,200 Speaker 3: Then you see Stephan Dickson. You know the last time 1964 01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:09,760 Speaker 3: Stephan Dicks had one hundred yards in the game? 1965 01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:16,880 Speaker 2: Week four? Week six, click, week six, you know what 1966 01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:20,759 Speaker 2: week it is now? Its faking, it's late been almost 1967 01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:22,519 Speaker 2: ten weeks and stuff on. Dis had over one hundred 1968 01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:23,519 Speaker 2: yards in a game. 1969 01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:25,880 Speaker 3: Imagine your fantasy team thinking they had to actually bench 1970 01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:28,640 Speaker 3: Stephan Digs. You would never that doesn't even add up. 1971 01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:32,240 Speaker 3: But no, I think in this game the Cowboys exercise 1972 01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:36,080 Speaker 3: some road demons here. They've had some, I mean, and 1973 01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:38,680 Speaker 3: of the three losses, one of them was to the 1974 01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:39,639 Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals. 1975 01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:40,680 Speaker 2: That was a bad one. 1976 01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:43,760 Speaker 3: Who may not even have three wins on the year, 1977 01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:48,639 Speaker 3: all right, the Cardinals who got three wins on the year. 1978 01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:53,400 Speaker 3: And then San Francisco just just I mean, just that 1979 01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:54,960 Speaker 3: type of beating should be illegal. 1980 01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:57,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was bad. It was bad. Yeah, San Francisco, 1981 01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:00,640 Speaker 2: I mean obviously that was that was a yeah, I 1982 01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:01,559 Speaker 2: guess they were all bad. 1983 01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:03,560 Speaker 5: Was who's the other? The third the third loss that 1984 01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:06,559 Speaker 5: had who's that? Who's Dallas last third loss? It'll come 1985 01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:07,360 Speaker 5: to me in a minute. 1986 01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:07,519 Speaker 2: I'll come to you. 1987 01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:09,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, But no, I think what do you think about 1988 01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:12,920 Speaker 5: the Dallas situation when it comes to Dak? Right, I 1989 01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:16,080 Speaker 5: think for a lot of us now in the media, 1990 01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:20,560 Speaker 5: right we're putting him as the favorite right now Philadelphia 1991 01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:21,599 Speaker 5: to win the MVP. 1992 01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:23,439 Speaker 2: It was the Eagles they lost. 1993 01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:26,680 Speaker 3: But you remember that game, That's the game in which 1994 01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:28,760 Speaker 3: Dak stepped out of bounds right before the end. Loss 1995 01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:32,280 Speaker 3: and then Luke Schoonmaker Michigan man just you know, did 1996 01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:34,080 Speaker 3: quite cross the plane? 1997 01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:34,800 Speaker 6: You know. 1998 01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:39,080 Speaker 5: Penalty too that they that they didn't call. He was 1999 01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:42,240 Speaker 5: getting held passing affarens On on the goal line, so yes, 2000 01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:44,320 Speaker 5: he didn't get in. But yeah, but no, I'm talking 2001 01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:46,040 Speaker 5: about Dak though in Dallas. 2002 01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:48,000 Speaker 2: Like what do you see? Do you have him in 2003 01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:50,599 Speaker 2: your MVP front runner as well? Do you have Okay? 2004 01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:53,920 Speaker 5: So how big of a game is this for him? 2005 01:31:54,200 --> 01:31:57,680 Speaker 5: And cementing that playing in Buffalo probably be a bad 2006 01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:00,400 Speaker 5: weather game or super cold or whatever around this time 2007 01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:04,120 Speaker 5: in Buffalo, how it usually turns out. It's just one 2008 01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:06,000 Speaker 5: of those big games for him. Right, It's a huge. 2009 01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:08,320 Speaker 3: Game for DAK and it's a huge game for McCarthy 2010 01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:13,240 Speaker 3: cause they have again had their three losses on the road, 2011 01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:16,560 Speaker 3: but have been cooking and have been one of the 2012 01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:19,519 Speaker 3: bigger bullies in the NFL. I mean from that Philly 2013 01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:23,639 Speaker 3: loss they beat the Giants forty nine to seventeen, Panthers 2014 01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:27,360 Speaker 3: thirty three to ten, the Commander's forty five to ten, right, 2015 01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:33,200 Speaker 3: like they're pounding, guys, They're pounding that team's at home, right, 2016 01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:38,000 Speaker 3: so you know the Cowboys, depending on how everything shakes out. 2017 01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:40,519 Speaker 3: Probably will have to go on the road and win 2018 01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:43,080 Speaker 3: a playoff game or two if they want to get 2019 01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:45,920 Speaker 3: to where they essentially feel like they should be, which is, 2020 01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:48,680 Speaker 3: you know, a NFC championship. I think if you're looking 2021 01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:51,120 Speaker 3: at a team right now that is ten and three 2022 01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:55,120 Speaker 3: through through this, this deep into the season, that's a 2023 01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:57,439 Speaker 3: team generally, Like I said, like we said to start 2024 01:32:57,479 --> 01:32:59,439 Speaker 3: the show, if the Lions don't win this game, it's 2025 01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:02,120 Speaker 3: time to stop taking them seriously right as they are 2026 01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:04,720 Speaker 3: now currently rolling the Broncos. But you know, a lot 2027 01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:08,000 Speaker 3: of a lot of game left, right, Hell, the Vikings 2028 01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:11,280 Speaker 3: were rolling the Bengals earlier today, a lot of game left, 2029 01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:13,600 Speaker 3: that's right. But I think this is this is a 2030 01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:15,640 Speaker 3: massive game in terms of that. And I think that 2031 01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:19,080 Speaker 3: Dak Willy quit Himsel will acquit himself well. And this 2032 01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:21,880 Speaker 3: the key for me is going to be this Dallas 2033 01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:25,680 Speaker 3: defense is Josh Allen. He's like the stock exchange. He 2034 01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:29,360 Speaker 3: goes up and he goes down. Right, you can in 2035 01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:33,160 Speaker 3: full Dallas with their pass rushers should be able to 2036 01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:37,400 Speaker 3: get Josh Allen off track. They can get him off track, 2037 01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:40,679 Speaker 3: holds him in the pocket, make him, don't let necessarily 2038 01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:42,920 Speaker 3: let him get out and run superman like like he 2039 01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:45,880 Speaker 3: did last week in Kansas City where he literally ran over. 2040 01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:47,640 Speaker 2: Five people on the way to the end zone. Right, 2041 01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:50,960 Speaker 2: if they can hold strong there, I like Dallas a 2042 01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:52,200 Speaker 2: ton in this game you do. 2043 01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:55,880 Speaker 5: That's a lot of ifs, that's a lot of hiss 2044 01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:59,679 Speaker 5: and I'm saying it from the perspective of Josh Allen 2045 01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:02,599 Speaker 5: is a mistake waiting to happen usually, and I think 2046 01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:05,519 Speaker 5: that's the thing nine games right, that's the thing that 2047 01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:07,439 Speaker 5: happens with him that gets him in trouble, right when 2048 01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:10,200 Speaker 5: he plays what you said earlier, when he's on track, 2049 01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:13,720 Speaker 5: and I think that's been the since the change in 2050 01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:17,479 Speaker 5: the offensive coordinator position, They've been having him play on 2051 01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:20,040 Speaker 5: track a lot. Well, he had the big run last week, 2052 01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:23,080 Speaker 5: but he's being more decisive with those things and making 2053 01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:26,519 Speaker 5: it happen. When he gets in that mode of trying 2054 01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:29,360 Speaker 5: to be superman and make the crazy throws and make 2055 01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:32,160 Speaker 5: the Patrick Mahome throws that he can make, that's when 2056 01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:34,920 Speaker 5: he gets in trouble with this Dallas team and the 2057 01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:36,800 Speaker 5: playmakers that they have on that side, on the deepen 2058 01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:38,880 Speaker 5: side of the ball. If he does that, he's going 2059 01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:41,759 Speaker 5: to pay, and so I hope, just for the game's 2060 01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:43,479 Speaker 5: sake as a fan to watch the game, that he 2061 01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:45,920 Speaker 5: shows up and plays on track, because if he does, 2062 01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:46,800 Speaker 5: then it'll be a good game. 2063 01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:50,519 Speaker 2: Carey, you remember the Steelers and Ben Roethlisberger's last year. 2064 01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:52,200 Speaker 3: I believe this started out like some ten and one 2065 01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:55,120 Speaker 3: something like that were there were I think ten and one, 2066 01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:59,000 Speaker 3: twelve and one some crazy start. The Vikings last year 2067 01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:02,880 Speaker 3: finished season thirteen and four. Yeah, I think we got 2068 01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:06,360 Speaker 3: another team like that right now in the NFL team 2069 01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:10,320 Speaker 3: that you know, their regular season record is really sexy. 2070 01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:12,800 Speaker 2: But it's a lot of smoking mirrors. We'll get to 2071 01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:13,800 Speaker 2: that next. 2072 01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:16,479 Speaker 3: If you like using debit over credit, shouldn't you also 2073 01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:19,840 Speaker 3: get rewarded? Well now you can with Discover cash Back Debit. 2074 01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:22,040 Speaker 3: It's a checking account that rewards everyone with cash back 2075 01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:26,000 Speaker 3: on every day purchases with no fees period check out 2076 01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:28,680 Speaker 3: eligibility in terms at discover dot com slash cash Back 2077 01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:33,120 Speaker 3: Debit Discover Bank member fd. 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I'm on x as Martin 2093 01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:20,120 Speaker 3: at Martin Weiss. Carrie is at Carrie twenty five Rhodes. 2094 01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:22,280 Speaker 3: If you want to join the conversation, of course, you 2095 01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:25,000 Speaker 3: get hit Fox Sports Radio as well. 2096 01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:27,280 Speaker 2: Carrie. I wanted to talk to you about this, the 2097 01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:28,840 Speaker 2: Eagles in the Seahawks game. 2098 01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:30,599 Speaker 3: Uns. 2099 01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:31,000 Speaker 4: You know what? 2100 01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:33,439 Speaker 3: No, actually, don't want to go somewhere else. No, no, no, 2101 01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:35,720 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I twisted my own self up. I'm gonna 2102 01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:38,720 Speaker 3: let Steve get to that part. The Eagles in the Seahawks. 2103 01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:40,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the Eagles are frauds. Bro. 2104 01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:43,120 Speaker 3: I think when you look at some of his defensive 2105 01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:46,559 Speaker 3: stats out of the Eagles, I think the Tush push 2106 01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:50,439 Speaker 3: has kind of ignored their offensive stats. Well, Like they 2107 01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:53,479 Speaker 3: were the best team last year on sacking the quarterback 2108 01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:57,519 Speaker 3: on third down, this year they're the worst team this 2109 01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:01,920 Speaker 3: Jerrus Slay just has sir. He wasn't necessarily playing at 2110 01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:04,000 Speaker 3: big play lay that we saw in Detroit in some 2111 01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:07,920 Speaker 3: of his first years in Philly. I think when you 2112 01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:11,320 Speaker 3: look at the Eagles and their strategy of going and getting, 2113 01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:14,000 Speaker 3: like a guy like Kevin Bayard who Tennessee was willing 2114 01:37:14,040 --> 01:37:16,720 Speaker 3: to move on from a guy like Shaq Leonard, who 2115 01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:20,320 Speaker 3: Indianapolis was ready to move on from a guy like 2116 01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:22,240 Speaker 3: Julio Jones the. 2117 01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:23,800 Speaker 2: Eagles signed him earlier this year. 2118 01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:27,080 Speaker 3: I don't I am not a believer in the let's 2119 01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:30,080 Speaker 3: sign somebody else's vet and bring him in and he's 2120 01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:33,160 Speaker 3: going to be a difference maker. Jalen Hurts is nicked up, 2121 01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:36,240 Speaker 3: and I think if you didn't have the brotherly shove 2122 01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:39,280 Speaker 3: Tush bush or is my favorite from Joy Taylor said 2123 01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:43,160 Speaker 3: this the booty Scooty, then you would be looking at Scooty, 2124 01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:45,360 Speaker 3: you'd be looking at this Eagles team in a different light. 2125 01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:49,360 Speaker 3: They should have lost to Buffalo. They end up there's 2126 01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:52,960 Speaker 3: a rainy, Swindy game that they ended up losing. 2127 01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:53,960 Speaker 2: Jake Elliott hit like. 2128 01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:57,560 Speaker 3: A fifty nine yarder to bang it through to go 2129 01:37:57,600 --> 01:38:00,240 Speaker 3: ahead and even extend the game. Then Jalen Hurd of 2130 01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:02,880 Speaker 3: course ran it into the end zone on a QB draw. 2131 01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:08,160 Speaker 3: But this Eagles team all season, to me, has seemed off. 2132 01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:11,559 Speaker 3: They did not have seemed like the most very much 2133 01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:12,800 Speaker 3: like the Kansas City Chiefs have. 2134 01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:17,320 Speaker 2: They have not seen like the dominant team that they 2135 01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:18,240 Speaker 2: were last year. 2136 01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:21,120 Speaker 3: And that was even with Jalen Hurts getting hurt in 2137 01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:23,280 Speaker 3: that Chicago game and playing really the rest of the 2138 01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:25,200 Speaker 3: season hurt without we saw in the Super Bowl he 2139 01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:27,479 Speaker 3: couldn't throw the ball, you know, fifty yards in the year, 2140 01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:30,240 Speaker 3: sixty yards in the year like most NFL quarterbacks can, 2141 01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:33,280 Speaker 3: like from their knees. Honestly, but he was well, he 2142 01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:33,680 Speaker 3: was hurt. 2143 01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:34,160 Speaker 2: He was hurt. 2144 01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:35,840 Speaker 3: He had a spray and shoulder, and to me, I 2145 01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:37,519 Speaker 3: thought he was I thought it was a c joint. 2146 01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:39,479 Speaker 3: When he went down to Chicago, I was surprised you 2147 01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:41,360 Speaker 3: were able to finish the season. I thought he was done. 2148 01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:45,160 Speaker 3: But this year he's still nicked up with his knee 2149 01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:48,120 Speaker 3: and practice the Eagles to me, just have a weird 2150 01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:51,080 Speaker 3: vibe around them, even going to the security guard dom 2151 01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:53,080 Speaker 3: Desanro getting Drake Green loss face. 2152 01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:55,400 Speaker 5: I know, I know, yeah, No, I'm with you on this. 2153 01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:59,080 Speaker 5: I've been I've been on that same wagon this season 2154 01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:01,640 Speaker 5: as well. They've locked up and won a couple of 2155 01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:04,280 Speaker 5: games here that they should not have won. And even 2156 01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:07,360 Speaker 5: in the games they were winning here and there, they 2157 01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:12,080 Speaker 5: weren't convincing. The defense hasn't been as good without Jonathan 2158 01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:16,120 Speaker 5: Gannon being there and leading that ship. He's in Arizona now. 2159 01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:19,880 Speaker 5: But yeah, it's something about them, man, I mean you 2160 01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:23,120 Speaker 5: could see that. I mean, obviously my Jets beat them 2161 01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:25,400 Speaker 5: when they were not good at all during the season, right, 2162 01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:27,840 Speaker 5: like for them to get a win and kind of, 2163 01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:32,240 Speaker 5: I guess put them put the league unnoticed. With the 2164 01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:34,599 Speaker 5: way the Eagles were playing kind of solidified it for me, right, 2165 01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:37,880 Speaker 5: it was like, Okay, I knew something was wrong, but 2166 01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:39,600 Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on. Then you see a 2167 01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:42,439 Speaker 5: game like that where they're careless. Jalen Hurst is careless 2168 01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:44,439 Speaker 5: with the ball, He's throwing the ball around, turning it over. 2169 01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:45,040 Speaker 2: Man. 2170 01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:48,439 Speaker 5: Sean Payton's getting after Russell Wilson here, but yeah, the 2171 01:39:48,520 --> 01:39:50,960 Speaker 5: Eagles have not been the same team as last year, 2172 01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:53,400 Speaker 5: and I definitely agree with you on I don't think 2173 01:39:53,439 --> 01:39:56,479 Speaker 5: they'll be one of the teams that has that teams 2174 01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:58,040 Speaker 5: have to worry about in the playoffs. I think they'll 2175 01:39:58,040 --> 01:39:59,120 Speaker 5: play out pretty early. 2176 01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:03,720 Speaker 3: Team to me feels like the Minnesota Vikings of last year, 2177 01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:08,800 Speaker 3: who if you've remember, lost the playoff game to the Giants. Yes, 2178 01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:13,599 Speaker 3: the New York Giants and Daniel Jones and Brian dave 2179 01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:17,000 Speaker 3: On his first year then was thirteen and four right 2180 01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:20,439 Speaker 3: and Kirk Couzins on fourth down checked it down to 2181 01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:23,040 Speaker 3: the running back only fourth to thirteen to end this 2182 01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:27,920 Speaker 3: game and and their season. Yeah, I if Gino Smith 2183 01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:30,280 Speaker 3: plays in this game, which he's been he's injured as 2184 01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:35,000 Speaker 3: growing and practiced last week and did not play, and 2185 01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:37,320 Speaker 3: Drew Locke was a sacrificial lamb out there against the 2186 01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:39,479 Speaker 3: San Francisco forty nine ers, who have really been beating 2187 01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:42,880 Speaker 3: the Seahawks since shoot the leasion of Boom. It feels 2188 01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:47,479 Speaker 3: like I think Seattle is in a great spot to 2189 01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:49,840 Speaker 3: win this game, playing at home. 2190 01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:53,599 Speaker 2: Twelfth man Eagles have been funny money all year. 2191 01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:56,120 Speaker 3: I love the Seahawks in this spot what's the spread 2192 01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:59,240 Speaker 3: for this one plus Seahawks plus three plus three. 2193 01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:05,920 Speaker 5: I've come from someone who's played against the twelfth Man 2194 01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:08,240 Speaker 5: quite a bit. When I was with the Jets, we 2195 01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:10,800 Speaker 5: played him quite quite a bit, and obviously when I 2196 01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:13,360 Speaker 5: was in Arizona in the same division. It's a tough 2197 01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:15,680 Speaker 5: place to play. They have a lot to play for 2198 01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:18,680 Speaker 5: Steel in December. In December, it's tough, man. 2199 01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:20,200 Speaker 6: But I. 2200 01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:26,120 Speaker 5: Can't see the Eagles losing this one. Let me rephrase 2201 01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:28,840 Speaker 5: that I can see them losing this one. I just 2202 01:41:29,160 --> 01:41:31,280 Speaker 5: don't think they'll lose this one. This is one of 2203 01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:32,760 Speaker 5: those ones they will sneak. 2204 01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:33,080 Speaker 2: By and win. 2205 01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:36,479 Speaker 5: But I'm not scared of the Eagles though I don't 2206 01:41:36,479 --> 01:41:38,200 Speaker 5: think they're the same team. But I just don't see 2207 01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:41,280 Speaker 5: them losing this one, though, Steve. 2208 01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:45,320 Speaker 3: De Sager, something you just had, Sean Payton. As my 2209 01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:48,840 Speaker 3: dad was saying, wild, harrop Is asked yelling at Russell Wilson, 2210 01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:51,120 Speaker 3: pointing at him, shouting at him. He was a very 2211 01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:54,280 Speaker 3: disappointed head coach, bad, bad, bad, What in the hell 2212 01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:56,200 Speaker 3: is going on in this Denver Detroit game? 2213 01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:58,679 Speaker 8: They just settled for a short field goal. So final 2214 01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:01,120 Speaker 8: minute of the third quarter, the Lions lead is twenty 2215 01:42:01,200 --> 01:42:05,280 Speaker 8: eight to ten over the Denver Broncos. Denver had third 2216 01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:08,599 Speaker 8: and goal at the one and got stopped for no gain. 2217 01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:13,559 Speaker 8: Peyton did not challenge the ruling that he was short 2218 01:42:13,640 --> 01:42:15,920 Speaker 8: of the goal line, so they went forward on fourth 2219 01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:21,320 Speaker 8: and goal, got in but offensive offside lined up offside, 2220 01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:25,680 Speaker 8: touchdown nullified, and then they settled for the short field goal. 2221 01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:29,160 Speaker 8: I'll assume that just because the quarterback as the leader 2222 01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:31,360 Speaker 8: of the offense, he took the brunt of this. But 2223 01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:33,960 Speaker 8: there was no discussion. There were no two sides of 2224 01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:35,479 Speaker 8: a conversation, not at all. 2225 01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:37,320 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson was sitting there like he was sitting in 2226 01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:38,519 Speaker 3: the corner of a time out man. 2227 01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:39,479 Speaker 2: It was a time out. 2228 01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:42,120 Speaker 8: Russell Wilson had a fumble on a strip sack first 2229 01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:45,040 Speaker 8: play of the first half, and then early third quarter 2230 01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:48,639 Speaker 8: he did have a touchdown pass, but four touchdown passes 2231 01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:51,759 Speaker 8: in Detroit for Jared Goff, two to tight end Sam Laporta, 2232 01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:54,800 Speaker 8: and again twenty eight to ten, Detroit the lead the 2233 01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:57,599 Speaker 8: Lions trying to go to ten and four on the season. 2234 01:42:57,720 --> 01:43:00,559 Speaker 8: Lions have lost two of their last three final three 2235 01:43:00,600 --> 01:43:03,559 Speaker 8: games on the schedule at Minnesota, at Dallas and then 2236 01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:08,040 Speaker 8: host Minnesota. Minnesota lost in overtime at Cincinnati today twenty 2237 01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:11,720 Speaker 8: seven to twenty four. Nick Mullens two touchdowns, two interceptions, 2238 01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:15,439 Speaker 8: three hundred three yards passing. Vikings defense had five sacks. 2239 01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:19,080 Speaker 8: Vikings offense on red zone tds just two for five, 2240 01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:22,960 Speaker 8: losing in ot SO. Minnesota's lost three of four, and 2241 01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:25,400 Speaker 8: that one win in this stretch the last month was 2242 01:43:25,479 --> 01:43:28,040 Speaker 8: the three to nothing victory at Las Vegas last Sunday. 2243 01:43:28,280 --> 01:43:31,040 Speaker 8: Here the Bengals were down seventeen to three after three 2244 01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:34,960 Speaker 8: quarters and still won in overtime. Today at Indianapolis, Colts 2245 01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:38,040 Speaker 8: over the Steelers thirty to thirteen. Gardner Minshew with three 2246 01:43:38,120 --> 01:43:42,000 Speaker 8: touchdown passes. Colts have won five of six. Indy entered 2247 01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:45,679 Speaker 8: the day one game behind Jacksonville in their division. Steelers 2248 01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:48,160 Speaker 8: had led thirteen to nothing in the second quarter of 2249 01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:51,639 Speaker 8: this one, and we do have injury news to pass 2250 01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:54,720 Speaker 8: on ast. Colts running back Zach Moss, who had a 2251 01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:58,080 Speaker 8: touchdown reception, left with an arm injury. Jonathan Taylor still 2252 01:43:58,120 --> 01:44:01,000 Speaker 8: out Trace Sermon at seventeen carry eighty eight yards in 2253 01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:03,840 Speaker 8: the win. Wide receiver Michael Pittman of the Colts four 2254 01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:06,680 Speaker 8: catches seventy eight yards. He left with a concussion on 2255 01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:10,639 Speaker 8: an illegal hit. The Texans will start quarterback Case Keenum tomorrow. 2256 01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:11,000 Speaker 2: CJ. 2257 01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:14,880 Speaker 8: Stroud is out at Tennessee, still in concussion protocol. As 2258 01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:17,760 Speaker 8: for college football, couple of bowl games going on right now, 2259 01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:21,000 Speaker 8: five minutes left in the LA Bowl Ucla leading Boise 2260 01:44:21,160 --> 01:44:24,280 Speaker 8: State thirty five twenty two, and in Shreeport at the 2261 01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:27,600 Speaker 8: Independence Bowl, battle of six and six teams going on. 2262 01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:30,800 Speaker 8: Cal scored in the opening couple of minutes in this game, 2263 01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:33,400 Speaker 8: but it's now Texas Tech twenty one to fourteen over 2264 01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:36,840 Speaker 8: California with about ten minutes to go in the second quarter. 2265 01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:40,240 Speaker 8: Earlier Bowl wins for Fresno State and Apple Atchian State, 2266 01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:43,880 Speaker 8: wins for Ohio U and for Jacksonville State in overtime. 2267 01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:47,280 Speaker 8: In college hoops in Indianapolis, number three per Due beat 2268 01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:51,040 Speaker 8: number one ranked Arizona, Number two Kansas narrowly won at 2269 01:44:51,120 --> 01:44:55,280 Speaker 8: Indiana wins for Houston and Kentucky. And in Detroit, Michigan 2270 01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:58,360 Speaker 8: State beat up number six Baylor eighty eight to sixty four, 2271 01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:02,759 Speaker 8: the NBA record for most consecutive losses in one season 2272 01:45:03,320 --> 01:45:07,080 Speaker 8: twenty six. The Detroit Pistons lost their twenty third straight 2273 01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:10,200 Speaker 8: game tonight. In fact, they lost by thirty two last 2274 01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:13,080 Speaker 8: night at Philadelphia. They lost by thirty two at Milwaukee 2275 01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:16,920 Speaker 8: this evening. Philadelphia meanwhile won at six straight game a 2276 01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:19,880 Speaker 8: victory at Charlotte easily. It was one thirty five to 2277 01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:23,400 Speaker 8: eighty two. Joel Embiid forty two points. I just read 2278 01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:25,760 Speaker 8: that Joel Embiid has more points than minutes on the 2279 01:45:25,840 --> 01:45:28,439 Speaker 8: court so far this year. That's how good he's been. 2280 01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:31,720 Speaker 8: As for the games in progress, Nets are leading at 2281 01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:34,960 Speaker 8: Golden State ninety nine ninety seven with under nine minutes ago. 2282 01:45:35,080 --> 01:45:37,719 Speaker 8: Golden State Warriors have a record of ten and fourteen 2283 01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:40,840 Speaker 8: this season. NHL three and a half minutes left. Stars 2284 01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:43,960 Speaker 8: are tied at Saint Louis three to three. Earlier in 2285 01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:46,439 Speaker 8: overtime win for the Rangers two to one at Boston. 2286 01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:50,519 Speaker 8: Toronto won it's game seven nothing over Pittsburgh, repeating the 2287 01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:54,000 Speaker 8: NFL game in progress. They've ended three quarters at Detroit 2288 01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:56,320 Speaker 8: Lions twenty eight ten over the Broncos. 2289 01:45:56,360 --> 01:46:00,120 Speaker 3: Back to you, thanks Steve. Shortly after the show, our 2290 01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:02,479 Speaker 3: podcast will be going up. If you missed any today's show, 2291 01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:04,599 Speaker 3: be sure to check out that podcast. Just search Fox 2292 01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:08,200 Speaker 3: Sports Radio wherever you get YEP you guessed it your podcast. 2293 01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:11,600 Speaker 3: We also be sure to rate, follow, and review that 2294 01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:14,400 Speaker 3: same podcast. It search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get 2295 01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:17,320 Speaker 3: your podcasts, and you'll be able to see this show 2296 01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:19,960 Speaker 3: posted right after we get off the air. I'll tell 2297 01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:24,000 Speaker 3: you this, Sean Payton was screaming mad, and I get it, 2298 01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:26,439 Speaker 3: A Hunters and get it because if we just saw 2299 01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:30,280 Speaker 3: this replay, I'll tweet it out at Martin Weiss. Didn't 2300 01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:32,720 Speaker 3: seem to me that anybody was off side here. I 2301 01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:35,200 Speaker 3: don't think we have another Cadarius Tony situation here. 2302 01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:36,760 Speaker 2: Uh No one looked off started. 2303 01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:39,519 Speaker 3: I don't know. Carry you tell me, Bud, take a look. 2304 01:46:39,640 --> 01:46:42,240 Speaker 3: You think anybody was off side? Six second video there? 2305 01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:45,799 Speaker 3: Everybody looks on side to me. They look pretty onside 2306 01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:48,040 Speaker 3: to me too. That feels like what I would explain 2307 01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:50,000 Speaker 3: to the high school football team. This is how you 2308 01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:52,000 Speaker 3: line up on sides actually in the goal line. 2309 01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:52,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's accurate. 2310 01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:55,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, but why did Why was there so much vitriol 2311 01:46:55,880 --> 01:46:57,800 Speaker 5: towards Russell Wilson there? 2312 01:46:58,160 --> 01:47:00,479 Speaker 3: You know, That's what I'm trying to figure out. That 2313 01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:02,160 Speaker 3: might be one I wish we had the volume up 2314 01:47:02,200 --> 01:47:04,560 Speaker 3: on this TV because he was a man yeah, he 2315 01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:06,560 Speaker 3: was a little upset. Who I want to take a 2316 01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:10,000 Speaker 3: second to touch on the NBA real quick, Steves just 2317 01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:13,880 Speaker 3: said it. The Pistons twenty three straight losses, Yeah, two 2318 01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:18,880 Speaker 3: to twenty four overall record. The San Antonio Spurs are 2319 01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:22,520 Speaker 3: four and twenty right now, and the New Orleans Pelicans 2320 01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:28,720 Speaker 3: are fifteen and eleven. Okay, every summer I gotta hear 2321 01:47:29,320 --> 01:47:33,799 Speaker 3: about how this guy, he's a can't miss prospectors change 2322 01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:36,080 Speaker 3: the game, will change the world of basketball. 2323 01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:36,479 Speaker 2: Yep. 2324 01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:42,200 Speaker 3: The last five number one overall picks are Victor Webbinyama, 2325 01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:48,680 Speaker 3: Paolo Bancaro, Kate Cunningham, Anthony Edwards, and Zion Williamson. In 2326 01:47:48,840 --> 01:47:54,280 Speaker 3: that list, two of those players, wen Benyama and Cunningham 2327 01:47:54,760 --> 01:47:58,960 Speaker 3: currently have a combined record of six and forty four. 2328 01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:02,160 Speaker 2: It if not even Christmas yet. 2329 01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:06,680 Speaker 3: We are not the Christmas And I don't blame them necessarily, 2330 01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:08,320 Speaker 3: although I'm sure they showed her a lot of blame 2331 01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:11,040 Speaker 3: for that. I blame everybody else who is sitting here 2332 01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:13,160 Speaker 3: talking about how these guys who never played in this 2333 01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:16,400 Speaker 3: league are gonna walk in and dominate. They won. 2334 01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:21,000 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Anthony Edwards looks legit. His team is pretty good. 2335 01:48:21,080 --> 01:48:24,280 Speaker 2: He's legit. Even them have made what one of us 2336 01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:26,600 Speaker 2: a playoff series so far as his career won a 2337 01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:29,680 Speaker 2: playoff series. Haven't even been in the play been in 2338 01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:31,120 Speaker 2: the playoffs, lost in the first round. 2339 01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:33,040 Speaker 3: And I'm not even trying to come at anybody like 2340 01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:35,680 Speaker 3: kill these guys or anything like that. It's more the 2341 01:48:35,960 --> 01:48:40,320 Speaker 3: eternal hype machine that has the next guy up of 2342 01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:43,720 Speaker 3: the best guy up, and it drives me nuts. And 2343 01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:48,479 Speaker 3: now we because there's only one Lebron James, we've only 2344 01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:51,439 Speaker 3: seen one of them in twenty one years of his 2345 01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:54,600 Speaker 3: career at all. Prior where a guy who's like, you know, 2346 01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:57,439 Speaker 3: a number one overall pick who walks in and is 2347 01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:00,519 Speaker 3: the best player on his team from then until year 2348 01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:03,920 Speaker 3: twenty one, you know what it's saying, Like he's twenty seven, 2349 01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:08,120 Speaker 3: seven and seven from the moment he graduated high school. Yeah, 2350 01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:10,880 Speaker 3: we're not gonna find the next one. 2351 01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:13,439 Speaker 2: You don't think there will never be another one, huh. 2352 01:49:13,720 --> 01:49:16,519 Speaker 3: No, Just like honestly, there's never been another There will 2353 01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:19,120 Speaker 3: be another Jordan like there was never There's not another 2354 01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:20,760 Speaker 3: Kareem who just fell and broke his hip. But I 2355 01:49:20,840 --> 01:49:23,439 Speaker 3: hope he will cover well yeah right, yeah, But there's 2356 01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:26,040 Speaker 3: not gonna be another Kareem like there isn't. There are 2357 01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:28,719 Speaker 3: guys who may remind you of them, there are guys 2358 01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:31,120 Speaker 3: that may may make you give you the same feeling 2359 01:49:31,200 --> 01:49:35,760 Speaker 3: when you're watching. But no, it's just we gotta be 2360 01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:37,519 Speaker 3: better with this in the NBA because we don't do 2361 01:49:37,600 --> 01:49:41,680 Speaker 3: it in the NFL. Trevor Lawrence was the greatest thing 2362 01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:44,280 Speaker 3: since Slice Bread from his junior year in high school. 2363 01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:44,559 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2364 01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:46,600 Speaker 3: No, one came in and we're like, oh, you know what, 2365 01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:49,960 Speaker 3: the Jaguars are winning the Super Bowl in the next 2366 01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:55,679 Speaker 3: four years. Just wasn't the case. It was not the case. 2367 01:49:55,760 --> 01:49:57,479 Speaker 2: Jared Golf was the first overall pick. 2368 01:49:57,720 --> 01:49:59,920 Speaker 3: Nobody will sitting there talking about, oh, well, the ram 2369 01:50:00,439 --> 01:50:02,920 Speaker 3: there'll be you know what, they'll be rising in the 2370 01:50:03,240 --> 01:50:04,519 Speaker 3: NFC championship game. 2371 01:50:04,720 --> 01:50:07,439 Speaker 5: Well yeah, I mean it's that's totally different, though, Mart. 2372 01:50:07,520 --> 01:50:10,040 Speaker 5: It's that football. You're not going to do that. That's 2373 01:50:10,120 --> 01:50:11,760 Speaker 5: just not gonna happen. It's just too many moving parts. 2374 01:50:11,800 --> 01:50:14,080 Speaker 2: I would argue that you're not doing it in basketball either. 2375 01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:19,760 Speaker 5: Yes, I mean that's to win, to win the NBA 2376 01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:22,200 Speaker 5: championship in four years To say that with the guy 2377 01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:25,680 Speaker 5: that's had the talent of a Winbiama right or or 2378 01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:28,920 Speaker 5: Lebron James right, Like I could see that being said 2379 01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:31,280 Speaker 5: because of the turnover in the NBA. 2380 01:50:31,439 --> 01:50:34,840 Speaker 2: Where where the NFL no one, I don't care who 2381 01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:35,479 Speaker 2: that one guy. 2382 01:50:36,240 --> 01:50:39,080 Speaker 5: You're not coming in and changing that organization from being 2383 01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:41,400 Speaker 5: three and thirteen to win the Super Bowl. 2384 01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:42,559 Speaker 2: It's just not going to happen. 2385 01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:45,920 Speaker 5: So the closest that we have seen to it is 2386 01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:49,360 Speaker 5: Joe Burrow, a guy who's just the Joe Burrow was 2387 01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:51,559 Speaker 5: twenty four years I mean he was an older kid too. 2388 01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:54,120 Speaker 5: He wasn't like a guy that's coming in three years 2389 01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:56,760 Speaker 5: and you know the number one prospect he's twenty one 2390 01:50:56,840 --> 01:50:57,160 Speaker 5: years old. 2391 01:50:57,200 --> 01:51:00,240 Speaker 2: Twenty years old. This guy was older. I mean he 2392 01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:03,800 Speaker 2: was the same made as Lamar Jackson, right. 2393 01:51:03,800 --> 01:51:04,400 Speaker 3: Yes, you know what I mean. 2394 01:51:04,439 --> 01:51:07,360 Speaker 2: Like, so that's a that's a different thing. 2395 01:51:07,439 --> 01:51:10,720 Speaker 5: He has a max, he has a competency about him 2396 01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:13,200 Speaker 5: that you could see him turning around and he did. 2397 01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:17,360 Speaker 3: But it's just it's to me, it's completely unfair to 2398 01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:21,160 Speaker 3: build up these guys until they get into the league 2399 01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:24,960 Speaker 3: and you see what is happening. Because right now, again 2400 01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:30,519 Speaker 3: the Pistons in the Spurs combined six and forty four yeah, 2401 01:51:31,360 --> 01:51:35,120 Speaker 3: the Pelicans was Zion. Remember Zion was coming out of Duke. Yes, 2402 01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:38,080 Speaker 3: I do, fifteen and eleven hasn't finished the season healthy yet. 2403 01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:43,000 Speaker 3: We just got to stop with this whole premature crowning 2404 01:51:43,080 --> 01:51:45,439 Speaker 3: of guys. Let's let them get there and do it. 2405 01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:47,960 Speaker 3: I agree, that's my take for sure. 2406 01:51:48,160 --> 01:51:50,200 Speaker 2: That is my opinion. All right, So there we go. 2407 01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:52,080 Speaker 3: I just had to have to touch on it as 2408 01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:55,439 Speaker 3: we're sitting here on an NFL Saturday. And you know, 2409 01:51:55,520 --> 01:51:57,719 Speaker 3: I also shout out to Rich Rodriguez and the fighting 2410 01:51:57,800 --> 01:52:00,760 Speaker 3: Jacksonville State game Cocks who went and won their ball 2411 01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:01,360 Speaker 3: game today. 2412 01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:05,679 Speaker 5: Oh, Rich Rodriguez in Jacksonville, Jacksville State, Jacksonville State. Jacksonville 2413 01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:06,519 Speaker 5: State is Alabama. 2414 01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:06,920 Speaker 4: I know that. 2415 01:52:07,360 --> 01:52:08,040 Speaker 2: I know that now. 2416 01:52:08,360 --> 01:52:12,360 Speaker 3: I just shot No, I mean I did. It was 2417 01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:15,920 Speaker 3: in Alabama, Jacksonville State. You think jack Wars's got a 2418 01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:16,760 Speaker 3: college team around there. 2419 01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:19,320 Speaker 2: No, it's in Alabama. But Jacksonville State. 2420 01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:22,960 Speaker 3: They petitioned the NAT We're able to play a ball game, 2421 01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:24,000 Speaker 3: ended up winning. 2422 01:52:24,040 --> 01:52:25,720 Speaker 2: The New Orleans Bull. Shout out to them. 2423 01:52:26,320 --> 01:52:28,680 Speaker 3: Uh but yeah, No, speaking of the New Orleans Bull, 2424 01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:31,960 Speaker 3: Sean Payton he used to coach in New Orleans. I 2425 01:52:33,160 --> 01:52:35,560 Speaker 3: he that was He's gonna have to answer for that 2426 01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:38,360 Speaker 3: post game. Yeah, because that was a complete and total 2427 01:52:38,479 --> 01:52:42,439 Speaker 3: undressing of his quarterback. Just yes, And if Russell Wilson had, 2428 01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:46,000 Speaker 3: if you had, if it was a different type of guy, Yeah, 2429 01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:48,599 Speaker 3: that would have been a much different There probably would 2430 01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:49,880 Speaker 3: have been some people separating them. 2431 01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:52,120 Speaker 5: It's almost like he probably wanted him to say something, 2432 01:52:52,200 --> 01:52:53,760 Speaker 5: so he could you know what I mean, he can 2433 01:52:53,840 --> 01:52:56,559 Speaker 5: justify it, Yes, the way you could justify. 2434 01:52:56,680 --> 01:52:58,240 Speaker 3: He's like, no, you won't hit me, you won't hit me, 2435 01:52:58,280 --> 01:53:00,720 Speaker 3: you won't hit me. Then finally when he taps you 2436 01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:03,680 Speaker 3: on the shoulder, you're like, ah, just loses it. But 2437 01:53:03,800 --> 01:53:06,599 Speaker 3: I mean Sean Payton was going crazy on Russ. Russ 2438 01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:10,160 Speaker 3: just standing there and I mean honestly taking it, you know, 2439 01:53:10,400 --> 01:53:12,519 Speaker 3: just taking it. We'll see what matters on the back 2440 01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:14,880 Speaker 3: end of it. But I mean that wasn't we saw 2441 01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:17,519 Speaker 3: the video. It's not off size. The referees called the 2442 01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:20,280 Speaker 3: offensive off side, you know. I there have been two 2443 01:53:20,439 --> 01:53:23,519 Speaker 3: now in primetime games since they called it on Kadarius 2444 01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:25,920 Speaker 3: Toni and they have not been called. If anybody wants 2445 01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:28,840 Speaker 3: to put their tenfoil conspiracy hat out, maybe that's on 2446 01:53:29,000 --> 01:53:32,400 Speaker 3: to something there. But but yeah, let's why don't we 2447 01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:35,880 Speaker 3: just wait? What did Denny Green say? If you want 2448 01:53:35,880 --> 01:53:38,040 Speaker 3: to crown them, crown there at well, let me just 2449 01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:40,599 Speaker 3: wait for the crowns for some of these NBA first 2450 01:53:40,640 --> 01:53:44,160 Speaker 3: overall picks and let them give them opportunity to come 2451 01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:48,000 Speaker 3: into the league, find their own and develop and maybe, 2452 01:53:48,160 --> 01:53:49,800 Speaker 3: just maybe they can build the team out of that 2453 01:53:50,120 --> 01:53:52,600 Speaker 3: and have some success because not everybody is coming in 2454 01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:55,759 Speaker 3: like we have seen Lebron James come into this league, 2455 01:53:55,920 --> 01:53:57,880 Speaker 3: and quite honestly, not too many number one. 2456 01:53:57,760 --> 01:53:59,720 Speaker 2: Overall picks we'll ever have that level well no, no, 2457 01:53:59,800 --> 01:54:00,519 Speaker 2: no brolling over. 2458 01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:02,160 Speaker 5: People ever had the level of success ever again, and 2459 01:54:02,200 --> 01:54:04,240 Speaker 5: we can talk about Lebron, but he struggled too. I 2460 01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:06,040 Speaker 5: mean he didn't I don't want to say his play stuggle, 2461 01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:08,880 Speaker 5: but it's team struggled. It's like a long time to well. 2462 01:54:09,000 --> 01:54:11,160 Speaker 2: The second year they were forty two of forty Yeah, 2463 01:54:11,200 --> 01:54:13,639 Speaker 2: but I mean yeah, forty two and jump was big, 2464 01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:16,000 Speaker 2: I mean as far as where they were. But he 2465 01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:18,000 Speaker 2: didn't win either, so it took him a long time 2466 01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:18,439 Speaker 2: to do it too. 2467 01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:21,719 Speaker 3: But I mean twenty three straight losses. 2468 01:54:22,320 --> 01:54:22,920 Speaker 2: He didn't have that. 2469 01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:26,439 Speaker 3: I mean, jesuis and thank goodness that the Lakers said 2470 01:54:26,479 --> 01:54:28,960 Speaker 3: Anthony Davis and Lebron jamesl the Spurs will be staring 2471 01:54:29,000 --> 01:54:31,600 Speaker 3: down the barrel like twenty one straight losses if that 2472 01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:33,960 Speaker 3: was the case. Coming up next with other progressive play today, 2473 01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:36,480 Speaker 3: it's an NFL pick. See how Kerry did he played 2474 01:54:36,520 --> 01:54:39,320 Speaker 3: the league because he picked the league. Martin and Carey 2475 01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:40,120 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio. 2476 01:54:40,760 --> 01:54:42,640 Speaker 10: First down and ten for the Boise he stayed forty 2477 01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:45,640 Speaker 10: Garber's gonna air down down the right sideline, cut Jay 2478 01:54:45,760 --> 01:54:49,600 Speaker 10: Michael's starterman in the end zone, touchdown. Do you CLA 2479 01:54:50,480 --> 01:54:54,360 Speaker 10: what forty yard start of a throw from Ethan Garber's 2480 01:54:54,760 --> 01:54:58,000 Speaker 10: and U CLA pouring it on Boise State in the 2481 01:54:58,080 --> 01:55:01,880 Speaker 10: second half and that's gonna do it. UCLA ends the 2482 01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:06,840 Speaker 10: bull drought, their first Bull victory since January of twenty fifteen. 2483 01:55:07,480 --> 01:55:10,680 Speaker 10: They put together a huge second half and they're able 2484 01:55:10,720 --> 01:55:14,040 Speaker 10: to stom back and defeat the Mountain West champion Boise 2485 01:55:14,240 --> 01:55:17,320 Speaker 10: State Broncos thirty five to twenty two. 2486 01:55:18,160 --> 01:55:21,680 Speaker 3: If that voice sounds familiar, it's because that is Nick 2487 01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:26,240 Speaker 3: Cope from lear Field, but also from Fox Sports Radio. 2488 01:55:27,880 --> 01:55:31,440 Speaker 2: Nick the headshot Cope. That's a good looking fellow right there. 2489 01:55:31,440 --> 01:55:33,880 Speaker 2: I'll tell you. That's a Progressive Player of the Day. 2490 01:55:33,880 --> 01:55:36,040 Speaker 2: It's brought to you by Progressive of Service. Progressive. 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No, Dante Moore, 2498 01:55:52,280 --> 01:55:52,839 Speaker 2: no problem. 2499 01:55:53,640 --> 01:55:56,120 Speaker 3: Martin and Keerry Roads, Martin Weis and Kerry Roads coming 2500 01:55:56,160 --> 01:55:58,600 Speaker 3: to you live from the Tireck dot Com studios, Not Carrie. 2501 01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:01,240 Speaker 3: I've said it three times now, so I'm gonna do it. 2502 01:56:01,240 --> 01:56:03,440 Speaker 3: Go ahead, wind up making a good fourth. You played 2503 01:56:03,480 --> 01:56:04,600 Speaker 3: the game, but can you pick it? 2504 01:56:05,440 --> 01:56:07,720 Speaker 2: We'll see, Brandon, what you got man? 2505 01:56:08,080 --> 01:56:09,720 Speaker 3: I get smoked last week? I feel like I you 2506 01:56:09,800 --> 01:56:13,120 Speaker 3: both got smoked last week. One in four for Martin, 2507 01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:14,320 Speaker 3: hell yeah, five. 2508 01:56:14,200 --> 01:56:16,680 Speaker 2: For vej hell yeah. I need to know my stats 2509 01:56:16,720 --> 01:56:19,120 Speaker 2: after this too, So okay, let me know you sent 2510 01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:20,280 Speaker 2: to me. All right, it sounds good. 2511 01:56:20,320 --> 01:56:22,880 Speaker 11: So the season totals stand at thirty seven and thirty 2512 01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:26,040 Speaker 11: four for Martin and VJs thirty two and thirty nine 2513 01:56:26,240 --> 01:56:29,640 Speaker 11: got you. So let's start week fourteen for our show. 2514 01:56:29,720 --> 01:56:33,520 Speaker 11: Week fifteen for the NFL, The Buccaneers at the Packers, 2515 01:56:33,720 --> 01:56:36,920 Speaker 11: Packers favored by three and a half. Will start with Martin. 2516 01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:39,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the Green Bay Packers here off of 2517 01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:42,680 Speaker 3: an embarrassing loss to the New York Giants. 2518 01:56:42,720 --> 01:56:45,400 Speaker 2: I think they bounced back here and beat Tampa. 2519 01:56:45,880 --> 01:56:48,240 Speaker 3: The winner of the NFC South is going to be 2520 01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:50,360 Speaker 3: getting a participation trigophy in the playoffs. 2521 01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:52,160 Speaker 2: I like that. 2522 01:56:52,240 --> 01:56:52,600 Speaker 7: I like that. 2523 01:56:52,760 --> 01:56:56,200 Speaker 5: I'm gonna also stick with that pick. I'm gonna take 2524 01:56:56,240 --> 01:56:59,240 Speaker 5: the Packers as well, big bounce back effort. They let 2525 01:56:59,360 --> 01:57:02,760 Speaker 5: munst up away to the Beato Giants, so I think 2526 01:57:02,800 --> 01:57:04,520 Speaker 5: they'll bounce back this weekend. 2527 01:57:05,720 --> 01:57:07,560 Speaker 3: We talked a lot about this game earlier. 2528 01:57:07,720 --> 01:57:12,400 Speaker 11: The Cowboys at the Bills Bills favored by two at home. 2529 01:57:12,880 --> 01:57:13,840 Speaker 11: Carrie will start with you. 2530 01:57:14,720 --> 01:57:17,000 Speaker 5: This is a tough one because I do know how 2531 01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:19,600 Speaker 5: hard it is to play in Buffalo with this time, 2532 01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:24,120 Speaker 5: But I'm gonna take the Cowboys here to win this 2533 01:57:24,280 --> 01:57:27,040 Speaker 5: game and to come out on top. Dak's gonna further 2534 01:57:27,160 --> 01:57:29,720 Speaker 5: his MVP chatter, and I think that's where we'll go. 2535 01:57:30,400 --> 01:57:33,560 Speaker 3: I'm riding as well. Bill's been up and down, up 2536 01:57:33,600 --> 01:57:37,720 Speaker 3: and down. Got saved yesterday last week by an offensive offsides. 2537 01:57:38,080 --> 01:57:39,920 Speaker 3: I don't think the Cowboys will do that, and if 2538 01:57:39,920 --> 01:57:42,240 Speaker 3: they do, I'll be sick. Give me the Dallas Cowboys. 2539 01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:45,600 Speaker 11: Ravens are getting three and a half on the road 2540 01:57:45,760 --> 01:57:47,200 Speaker 11: against the Jaguars. 2541 01:57:47,880 --> 01:57:48,640 Speaker 2: Martin, who you got? 2542 01:57:49,080 --> 01:57:51,640 Speaker 3: Ravens have played some funny games the last few weeks. 2543 01:57:51,680 --> 01:57:54,680 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go ahead and take Jacksonville here, who just 2544 01:57:54,800 --> 01:57:56,840 Speaker 3: lost to Cleveland. Cleveland's got a better defense in my 2545 01:57:56,960 --> 01:57:59,240 Speaker 3: estimation than Jacksonville. My the best defense in the league 2546 01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:02,080 Speaker 3: in Baltimore might have the best defense in the league. 2547 01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:04,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead take the Jaguars to cover. I 2548 01:58:04,160 --> 01:58:04,840 Speaker 2: think the Ravens what. 2549 01:58:04,920 --> 01:58:05,400 Speaker 3: A close one. 2550 01:58:06,160 --> 01:58:08,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I will never pick against my Ravens. I'm definitely 2551 01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:10,320 Speaker 5: coming out with the Ravens on this one. The best 2552 01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:13,360 Speaker 5: team in AFC. I see the offense clicking the way 2553 01:58:13,480 --> 01:58:16,120 Speaker 5: that we envisioned with all the weapons, and they're not 2554 01:58:16,160 --> 01:58:19,120 Speaker 5: gonna stop against Jacksonville. Jacksonville is a team that's a 2555 01:58:19,240 --> 01:58:21,560 Speaker 5: wishywahie team as well, So I'll take the Ravens. 2556 01:58:22,120 --> 01:58:24,760 Speaker 11: Our biggest spread of the week forty nine ers on 2557 01:58:24,840 --> 01:58:29,959 Speaker 11: the road favored by twelve against Carrie's Arizona Cardinals. 2558 01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:32,480 Speaker 2: Carrie, who you got first? In this one? 2559 01:58:32,800 --> 01:58:34,880 Speaker 5: If it was forty, I take San Francisco. So I'm 2560 01:58:34,920 --> 01:58:38,160 Speaker 5: gonna take San Francisco twelve here for sure. I mean, 2561 01:58:38,200 --> 01:58:41,879 Speaker 5: I love my Cardinals. I love my old college teammate, 2562 01:58:42,040 --> 01:58:44,240 Speaker 5: you know, Jonathan Gannon being the coach there and all 2563 01:58:44,280 --> 01:58:46,160 Speaker 5: the things that that brings to me. 2564 01:58:46,320 --> 01:58:49,320 Speaker 3: But yeah, they have no shot against san fran the gambler, 2565 01:58:49,400 --> 01:58:51,520 Speaker 3: and he hasitate the Cardinals and the points. It's just 2566 01:58:51,560 --> 01:58:54,480 Speaker 3: too many points. That's the only analysis I have is 2567 01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:57,720 Speaker 3: just too many points. San Francisco should beat the living 2568 01:58:57,760 --> 01:59:00,200 Speaker 3: hell out of them. But Kyler Moriot through the back or. 2569 01:59:01,680 --> 01:59:04,720 Speaker 11: All right, lessender with the Giants and Tommy Davito away 2570 01:59:05,840 --> 01:59:09,480 Speaker 11: he on on on the road against the Saints. Saints 2571 01:59:09,520 --> 01:59:11,280 Speaker 11: favor by five and a half in this one, Martin, 2572 01:59:11,680 --> 01:59:12,120 Speaker 11: who you got? 2573 01:59:12,680 --> 01:59:14,680 Speaker 3: Woke up this morning and I'm going ahead and take 2574 01:59:14,720 --> 01:59:17,640 Speaker 3: the Sopranos. Rebake, give me telling me the Vito, the 2575 01:59:17,760 --> 01:59:20,840 Speaker 3: passing pizon odm be cut, let's a what's going on? 2576 01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:23,720 Speaker 3: Forget about it? Well, you know what else? Because the 2577 01:59:23,760 --> 01:59:25,600 Speaker 3: New York New Orleans Saints, you know what they do. 2578 01:59:26,080 --> 01:59:30,320 Speaker 3: They steak, They steak out loud. Worst coach at quarterback 2579 01:59:30,400 --> 01:59:33,680 Speaker 3: combination in the NFL right now resides in New Orleans. 2580 01:59:33,760 --> 01:59:35,760 Speaker 2: Just look at the numbers against the spread. Not a 2581 01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:37,160 Speaker 2: chance give me the Giants. 2582 01:59:37,600 --> 01:59:43,640 Speaker 5: Well, if you juxtapose those numbers, right, the Saints never cover. Never, 2583 01:59:44,200 --> 01:59:47,240 Speaker 5: They're gonna cover this weekend. They're gonna beat the Giants. 2584 01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:50,320 Speaker 5: They're gonna move on and take control of that week 2585 01:59:50,480 --> 01:59:53,200 Speaker 5: division that they're in right now, and they'll. 2586 01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:54,400 Speaker 2: Be in first place after tomorrow. 2587 01:59:55,040 --> 01:59:58,360 Speaker 3: That's the most disgusting first place you could have, honestly, 2588 01:59:58,640 --> 02:00:01,360 Speaker 3: the most disgusting first place you can ad That's it, right, that's. 2589 02:00:01,240 --> 02:00:03,800 Speaker 2: Five all right. You know what, Carrie, we said it 2590 02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:04,760 Speaker 2: at the start of the show. 2591 02:00:05,720 --> 02:00:08,640 Speaker 3: If the Lions did not come out and win today, 2592 02:00:09,120 --> 02:00:12,720 Speaker 3: they were not not to be taken seriously anymore. 2593 02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:15,240 Speaker 2: Well, guess what we've had. 2594 02:00:15,160 --> 02:00:17,680 Speaker 3: To pay attention to Detroit because they beat the hell 2595 02:00:17,720 --> 02:00:19,760 Speaker 3: out the Broncos right now, thirty five to ten. 2596 02:00:19,840 --> 02:00:20,600 Speaker 2: I think it's the score. 2597 02:00:21,000 --> 02:00:24,080 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson's got Shawn Peyton losing it on the sidelines. 2598 02:00:24,520 --> 02:00:27,200 Speaker 3: You know, I saw somebody to this the first time 2599 02:00:27,240 --> 02:00:29,200 Speaker 3: in the history of football, a team had to settle 2600 02:00:29,240 --> 02:00:31,760 Speaker 3: for a field goal after scoring three touchdowns that didn't 2601 02:00:31,800 --> 02:00:34,480 Speaker 3: get called for reviews or offensive all sides or whatever. 2602 02:00:34,920 --> 02:00:37,880 Speaker 3: But I'm impressed with what I've seen out of Detroit today. 2603 02:00:37,920 --> 02:00:40,120 Speaker 5: The Lions needed to bounce back, whin they bounced back 2604 02:00:40,120 --> 02:00:42,840 Speaker 5: really well. Yes, they're in the back in the hunt 2605 02:00:42,920 --> 02:00:44,400 Speaker 5: for being one of the top two teams out there, 2606 02:00:44,520 --> 02:00:47,160 Speaker 5: top three. Let's see what happens. Get them into playoffs, 2607 02:00:47,160 --> 02:00:47,960 Speaker 5: and that's have some fun. 2608 02:00:48,440 --> 02:00:48,600 Speaker 4: You know. 2609 02:00:48,720 --> 02:00:51,440 Speaker 3: It's like we said, if they get playing inside, that's 2610 02:00:51,440 --> 02:00:52,880 Speaker 3: a good one. You know who else would be side 2611 02:00:52,960 --> 02:00:56,560 Speaker 3: Jason Martin, Aaron Torres. Up next on Fox Sports Radio, 2612 02:00:56,640 --> 02:00:58,960 Speaker 3: Martin Weiss, Carrie Rhoades. We are out