1 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Is this a great game? Or what 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: with the Hall of Fame or Tim Kirkchen. I'm his son, 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Jeff Kirchen and Dad. We're up early on a Sunday morning, 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: in between diapers and feedings and my daughter waking up 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: in order to get the podcast done because it's a 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: busy weekend with Hall of Fame weekend and Cooper's down. 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: I know, you got to see some people and have 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: some fun, but it's just a great time for baseball 9 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: because the trade deadline is looming. There's so much going on. 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: How are you doing, Jeff, I'm doing great. Last night 11 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: or Saturday night, your mother had her fiftieth high school reunion. 12 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 2: It's right Corning, New York, which is where I am 13 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 2: right now at an air b and me and I 14 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: had to move some things around, so hopefully this looks okay. 15 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: But your mother, kak Kat, had a great time last 16 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: night at her high school. You know, star golfer, star swimmer, 17 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: straight a student, all that stuff. So she was the 18 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 2: hit of the party. 19 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: And she married you. 20 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, good, good question about that, Jeff. So 21 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: it was great. Mom was really happy. That makes us 22 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: all really happy. So that was good. Yeah. 23 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I think every husband out there can recognize. 24 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you got to do things with the 25 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: significant other that maybe is their choice for the weekend. 26 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: But Dad, I mean Courding, New York is I think 27 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: one of the most charming small towns in the United States. 28 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: I remember visiting as a kid thinking, there's no way 29 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: this looks like the set of a TV show. This 30 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: can't be real. 31 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: Right, Well, it's real, Jeff, and it's great. So we 32 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: spent some really quality time here in Corning, but most 33 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: of well, just as important I got at least I 34 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: got one full day in Cooperstown, Jeff, and it was 35 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: just the best. It's my favorite place on earth. We 36 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: talk about this every July, if not way more often 37 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 2: than that. So I had some great moments. First off, 38 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 2: the speeches were great, Joe Buck, Paul Hoynes, they were great. 39 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: That was the highlight of Saturday, on the highlight of 40 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: Friday for me. I don't know why I got it 41 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: such a kick out of this I had. We had 42 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: dinner with my friends Jason Stark and Dan Shaughnessy and 43 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: Rick Laon and their wives and everything on Friday night. 44 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: So I go to the bathroom on Friday night at 45 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: the Oda Saga Hotel, and there are four urinals in 46 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: the men's bathroom. So I'm the first one in there, 47 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: and a second later someone else comes in, looks at 48 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 2: me and says, boy, they'll let anybody in here. And 49 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: it was John Smolts. So I've got John Smolts. 50 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 3: Yeah. 51 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: Yes. So then there's another guy right next to me, 52 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 2: to my left, and it is Tom Glavin. At the 53 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 2: fourth urinal in the bathroom. Right behind me is Greg 54 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: Mannox No so yes, no, three yes, Jeff. We have 55 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 2: a segment here called three Cards in the Bathroom. We 56 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 2: do it every Thursday. This was three Aces in the bathroom, 57 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: three Hall of Favors in the bathroom, and I'm looking 58 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 2: around and I have to laugh out loud that I'm sorry, 59 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: I'm taking a leak with the three great pictures from 60 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: the Atlanta Braves, all of whom I covered, I covered 61 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: all of their inductions, and it was just it was 62 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: just the funniest thing. Ever, how can that happen, jem 63 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: I go to the bathroom and those three guys follow 64 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: in like two seconds later. 65 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: I think that's some fans dream. I'm like, I wish 66 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: I was at a four urinal bathroom and then in 67 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: walks Glavin and in walks Maltzy. I mean, could you 68 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: imagine debt. I just hope because I know that some urinals, 69 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: some bathrooms have this for our female listeners, they'll have 70 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: multiple urinals, but one is a little bit closer to 71 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: the ground for shorter folk. Since you were first in, 72 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: I hope you just defaulted to the short urinal because 73 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: I know I knew as a small guy in case 74 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: somebody else comes in little to know, you had three 75 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: Hall of famers walking, three teammates, right. 76 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 2: So I whispered this to a couple of people at 77 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: the table, and they asked me, did you take a 78 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 2: picture of them? And I said, we're going to the bathroom. 79 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna take a picture of them going to 80 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: the bathroom. But it was just priceless. But the other 81 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: thing was Jeff, and it occurred to me will Zlatrus, 82 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: our great golf friend who was so great on the 83 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 2: podcast a few weeks ago. Remember remember what his goal 84 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 2: in life is is to play around the golf with 85 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: those three. 86 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: Guys with that soresme. 87 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 2: So I told those guys that on the way out 88 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: of the bathroom, and they said, well, we'll hook it up. 89 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 2: We'll make just just call him help. We'll love to 90 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 2: play with him because they're so amazed. Of course, how 91 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 2: great these tour players are. Smolts, of course is below scratch. 92 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 2: The other two guys are scratch players. I mean they're tremendous, 93 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: all of them. And I jokingly said, you know, he'll 94 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: he'll crush all three of you guys because he's on 95 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 2: a different level. And Maddox, the most competitive guy in 96 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: the world, just looks and says, we'll play him three 97 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: on one. So I think we've got a setup because 98 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,239 Speaker 2: I have now contacted Maddox, Glavin and Smoltz. We're gonna 99 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: have a foursome with Will Zalatoris. 100 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: Is that great or what I think you need to 101 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: be Will Zalatoris's agent, because you told Barry Bonds that 102 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: he wanted to play golf with him. You told those 103 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: three great Hall of famers he wants to play golf 104 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,559 Speaker 1: with him. I mean he's gonna have a ton of rounds. 105 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,239 Speaker 1: You remember Will said he wanted to play golf with us, 106 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: So we need to set that up too, Dad. I 107 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: played for the first time in months. I don't even 108 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: remember the last time I played, and I had let's 109 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: just say I had a really good time. Usually when 110 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: I'm on the course and I start having drinks, my 111 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: game gets worse. I'm so bad right now. I started 112 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: having drinks, my game got better. I was seven strokes 113 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: better on the back nine than I was on the 114 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 1: front nine. I don't know what's wrong with me, Dad, 115 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: but I gotta get it together because I've got a 116 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: fantasy football draft weekend coming up where all we do 117 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: is play golf, and then i have my buddy Parker's 118 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: bachelor party where we're gonna play a lot of golf. 119 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: So I need to I need to sharpen it up. Dad. 120 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: I know I have a six week old of the 121 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: three year old over here, but I'm doing something wrong. 122 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: You're playing with mom today, and you gotta make sure 123 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: you played the other day and played great. 124 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, all right, Jeff, let's get back to the drinks. 125 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 2: You had beers on the back nine. 126 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: Hard seltzers. Yeah. 127 00:06:58,520 --> 00:06:58,799 Speaker 2: Beer. 128 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: I'm over thirty now. Beer doesn't settle with me as 129 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: well as it used to myself. 130 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: How many hard seltzers did you have? 131 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: I had two hard seltzers on the back nine and 132 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: then I had the third one when I got home. 133 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: I bought three, but I only drank. 134 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: Two, and you knew they were alcoholic beverages, unlike me 135 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: when I sat at your house. Okay, that's when you when. 136 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: You grabbed white Claws and had two of them while 137 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: I was putting McKinley down and I came out and 138 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: you said, these are great. 139 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: Poor poop. All right, So again, Jeff, we had such 140 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: a great time at the Hall of Fame. I saw 141 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: Andrew Jones. It was with all his boys, and he 142 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: was just in his glory that he was in the 143 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: lobby of the Oda Saga Hotel getting ready to go 144 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: into the Hall of Fame. It just, you know, it's 145 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: something you can't explain how important this is. And the look, 146 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: you know, Andrew Jones had a smile on his face 147 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: like his entire career, and it even bothered some people 148 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: that he's always smiling even after he makes an out 149 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: or strikes out. But that's just who he was, and 150 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: I've never seen him smile quite like he did in 151 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: the lobby of the Oda Sagas. So congratulations to him, Jeff. 152 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: I took a walk down Main Street in Cooperstown, which 153 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: we know. The entire town is just ludicrously charming. And 154 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: that walk that I took down the street just to 155 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: just to see what it's like, get a feel for Cooperstown. 156 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: I've done it a million times. But I ran into 157 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 2: a father and a son who were there to see 158 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: Carlos Beltron. And the father was wearing a jersey with 159 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: Roberto Clemeni on the back and his son was wearing 160 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: a Carlos Beltron jersey. So here it is Clementi from 161 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: Puerto Rico, one of the great the greatest player ever 162 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: out of Puerto Rico, and Beltron, who's you know, one 163 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: of the greatest players out of Puerto Rico. That was 164 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 2: a father and son that I met on this in Cooperstown, 165 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 2: and it just warmed my heart. And Jeff, the number 166 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: of fathers and sons, mothers and daughters that I met, 167 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: entire families and they're all there for one reason, just 168 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: a shared love of baseball. It was just so cool. 169 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: And my friend John Shay, who's covered baseball in San 170 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 2: Francisco forever, one of my best friends. He's a great writer. 171 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: He'll be in the Hall of Fame hopefully someday. But 172 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 2: he went out to do a story on fans and 173 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 2: Jeff Kent because he's covering Jeff Kent going into the 174 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. So he goes to this restaurant and 175 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 2: these two people come sit right next to him, and 176 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: this is John's goal for the day is to find 177 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 2: some people who were there to see Jeff Kent. And 178 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 2: these two guys in San Francisco, a father and son 179 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 2: in San Francisco giants Jerseys, sit down next to him 180 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: and he basically says, so, what's your story, and the 181 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 2: dad said, well, we came here to celebrate Jeff Kent. 182 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: And then he looks at John Shay and says, this 183 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: is my son Kent. So John Shay goes out to 184 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: find and he finds the perfect guys and they're sitting 185 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: right next to him, a dad who named his son Kent. 186 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 2: How great is that? 187 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: That is so perfect? I can't wait to read those 188 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: kind of stories. 189 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: Dad. 190 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: Your favorite works that you've done as a writer to 191 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: me are yes, of course, you know when Tony Gwynn's 192 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: obituary that you wrote and the video piece that was 193 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 1: done with it. But when you go into the minutia 194 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: of baseball or the fandom of it, that's that to me, 195 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: really is where baseball lives and where you shine. So 196 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see this article. That's going to 197 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: be really special. 198 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: Well, Ken, Jeff, That's what makes Cooperstown so magical is 199 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: why people are there. And the first thing you always 200 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: ask is, you know, is this your first time here? 201 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 2: With a couple of people they said, first time here. 202 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 2: I met two guys, Jeff, who had never met each 203 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 2: other until last year. They're like a Mets fan and 204 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: a Phillies fan, and they met at Cooperstown and then 205 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 2: they went to Cooperstown together this year. So these two guys, 206 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: two random guys who met at Cooperstown last year, decided 207 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 2: to come back and they decided to come together, having 208 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 2: never and they're both in their sixties. It was just 209 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: it was priceless. It was so good. And then you 210 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 2: ask others, you know, is this your first time here? 211 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: And one guy looked at me and he goes, I've 212 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: been here for thirty straight years, thirty straight inductions he's 213 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 2: gone to. 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Make sure 237 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 4: you click the link in the description to download the 238 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 4: app and then the code automatically is added to your 239 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 4: account so you can use it later. 240 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: So also at the Odasaga, Jeff, I met Pat Sajack. 241 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 2: Now I've met Pat Sajack before, but it was very, 242 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: very briefly. It was just like a quick handshake. But 243 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: I talked to him for like fifteen minutes in the 244 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: lobby of the Oda Saga Hotel, and I knew he 245 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 2: was a great baseball fan. I didn't know it was 246 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: to this extent. And somehow it comes up that he 247 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 2: was at the famous thirty to three game that the 248 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: Orioles played against the Rangers in two thousand and seven, 249 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: the famous I was taking you to freshman orientation in 250 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 2: high school and that day the Rangers beat the Orioles 251 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: thirty to three. Pat Sajack went to both games that day. 252 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:48,479 Speaker 2: Knew everything about both games that day. It was just priceless. 253 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: So when I got to talk to him, he knew 254 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: so many facts and so much minutia about baseball. It 255 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: was so good. And then I reminded him, Jeff that 256 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 2: our guest on Tuesday coming up, Jason Bennetti, Yes, basically 257 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: told us that he learned how to spell and how 258 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: to speak watching Wheel of fortune, and Pat Sajak was 259 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: just so just enthralled and so happy that a great 260 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: broadcaster like Jason Bennetti, our guest on Tuesday, learned from 261 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: watching this guy on TV. So cool. 262 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jason Bennetti. I don't want to pull aside from 263 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: this dad, but speaking Cooperstown and Jason Bennetti, that guy'll 264 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: be enshrined in Cooperstown one day. Our guest Jason Bennetti 265 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: is such a talented broadcaster, so smart, so fun and funny. 266 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: But he's going to be our guest tomorrow. Second time 267 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: guest on is this a great game or one? And 268 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: oh my goodness, we have so many laughs with him. 269 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: I can't wait for this episode to come out. It's 270 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: going to be fantastic, right. 271 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 2: I had last thing from Cooperstown, Jeff, And I'm not 272 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: sure why I got such a kick out of this, 273 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: but my friend Dan Shaughtsey, who just won the Redsmith 274 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: Award and is in the as it was honored at 275 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 2: Cooperstown several years ago for the Lifetime Achievement Award. Dan 276 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: was at the Hotel Bar getting lunch and somehow he 277 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: brokeered a meeting between Wade Bogs and Eddie Murray. And 278 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: this is the part. Apparently way Boggs always wanted to 279 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: meet and get to know Eddie Murray and he never 280 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: had the opportunity to do it. And now here they are. 281 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 2: They've both been in the Hall of Fame for all 282 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: this time, and Dan helped set up lunch with Wade 283 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 2: Bogs and Eddie Murray. You would think this would just 284 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: happen immediately, but Dan was kind of in the middle 285 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: of this, And now way Bogs gets a chance to 286 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 2: pick Eddie Murray's brain for the first time. I just 287 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 2: love stuff like that. 288 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: Well, Dad, it reminds me of even when Ted Williams 289 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: was on the mound at the All Star Game and 290 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: he was asking players how do you throw that pitch? 291 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: And how do you do because you're always a student 292 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: of the game, when you love the game and you 293 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: commit your life to the game. I bet Wade Boggs 294 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: was asking him questions about the game, not just you know, 295 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: casual conversation, right, because that it's what they love. I mean, 296 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: look at you, Dad. My favorite thing about you. I 297 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: mean you just said when you're in cooper Stown, you 298 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: asked somebody, is this your first time? Your favorite questions 299 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: in this order to ask somebody you meet, mostly somebody 300 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: who might know who you are. You say, okay, who's 301 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: your team and how old are you? So you find 302 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: out the team, you find out their age, and then 303 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: you do the math backwards to find out when they're 304 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: like eight to ten years old, right, because that's like 305 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: the prime when you start to connect with players and 306 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: a team. And I just think it's the coolest thing, Dad, 307 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: that you do. That you go find that age in 308 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: a person and you go, oh, okay, so you were 309 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: you know, you were a fan of Albert Poolholes or 310 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: you know, Wade Boggs was your guy. And then the 311 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: best part is when they correct you and they come 312 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: out with the utility guy who was their guy even 313 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 1: though he was just a utility guy. I just love 314 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: that about you, Dad, I think that curiosity in you 315 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: is special. 316 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: Well, we always everyone grew up with a guy, and 317 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,719 Speaker 2: that's what just was so special this every year at 318 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: Cooperstown it's the same thing. But again, Wade Boggs's guy 319 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 2: was Eddie Murray and he really never had a sit 320 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 2: down with him until Dan Shaughnessy set that up. So 321 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 2: again to repeat, Jeff and absolutely, I only spent one 322 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 2: day in Cooperstown this year, and it was just filled 323 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 2: with memories, because that's what Cooperstown does. 324 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: All right, Dad, are we jumping into the takeaways? 325 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 2: Yes? And we had a baseball trade, Jeff. On Saturday. 326 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: Curtis Mead, infielder for the Nationals, went to the Red 327 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 2: Sox for left handed pitcher commonly early. No, Jeff, this 328 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 2: is a fascinating little trade because you just don't see 329 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 2: deals like this, Even though we're coming up on the 330 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: trade deadline, you don't see it very often where two 331 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 2: major league players are traded for each other one on one, 332 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 2: Like years ago, Pedro Martinez got traded for Delino Deshields 333 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 2: and I looked up the last time two players like 334 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 2: that had been traded for each other, and I got 335 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 2: back to Jerry Remy for Don Ossi a million years ago. 336 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 2: These things don't happen. But this was a really interesting 337 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 2: trade because we talked about, you know, how much the 338 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: Red Sox need another hitter. They're in the Pennant race, 339 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 2: Jet and I think they need to score a lot 340 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 2: more runs. Curtis Meats had a really good year. He's 341 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: a right handed hitter, which is really important in this day, 342 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 2: and just as important, he can play third base, shortstop 343 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 2: and second base. So I think it's a great move 344 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: for them and a good move for the Nationals, who 345 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: obviously need pitching. They picked up a young left handed 346 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 2: pitcher who's got seven wins and a three forty four ERA. 347 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 2: He will join their rotation to be one of the 348 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: they're three best starters like immediately, so that is so cool. 349 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 2: And Jeff Curtis Meat is Australian. As I've told you before, 350 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 2: he was like twenty five years old, but he told 351 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: me years ago that there was no high school baseball 352 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 2: in Australia. There was basically nowhere for him to play. 353 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 2: So he joined like an He joined like an amateur 354 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: league when he was thirteen years old, and he was 355 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 2: playing against grown men twenty five thirty years old when 356 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: he was thirteen because he was so advanced. But the 357 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 2: only competition he could find in Australia was against older 358 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 2: men and it made him a better player. Does that 359 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 2: make sense. 360 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: To you, Yeah, I mean, you want to play the 361 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: competition that's going to drive you to be better. I 362 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: remember growing up in little league. There was one year 363 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: where I was the youngest kid on the team and 364 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: always the smallest. And then there was another year just 365 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: because of my birthday, where I would be the oldest kid. 366 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: And listen, I was not a very good player. But nonetheless, 367 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: when I was the youngest kid and had to grind 368 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: it out and play against harder throwing pitchers, I might 369 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: not have played as well, but I know I got 370 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: better than when maybe I was one of the better 371 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: players on the team because I was ahead of everybody else. 372 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: So definitely, playing up is the way to do it. 373 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: That's why, And Jim Beheim said little the youngest brothers 374 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: will always be the better players because they had that 375 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: older brother pushing him around in the lane when they 376 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: were still not even grown yet. Look at Johnny Feierstein, 377 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: youngest boy of four boys five kids in the Firestein 378 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: family and was the best, arguably the best player to 379 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: ever play at quinn s Orchard High School and his 380 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: three older brothers all played hoops there, and he was 381 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: the best because he was learning to be a point 382 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: guard when he was seven playing against these guys. 383 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really important. And speaking of trades, Jeff, I 384 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 2: think there's a chance that Podrey's are gonna trade Mason 385 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 2: Miller Mason Miller has had an amazing season. Twenty six saves, 386 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: zero point eight four ERA one hundred and sixty three 387 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 2: batteris face Jeff seventy nine strikeouts, So again, he's striking 388 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 2: out almost fifty percent of the batters that he's facing. 389 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 2: That's ridiculous, but that's how good he is, and he's 390 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 2: got three years of control. Padres, of course don't want 391 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 2: to trade him, but there's a possibility now that this 392 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 2: could happen. But knowing Aj Preler, their general manager, he'll 393 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 2: make a deal, perhaps to trade Mason Miller, even though 394 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 2: he doesn't want to and might not of course, but 395 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 2: he will try to make a deal in which the 396 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 2: Padres get better, even though they'll trade their closers. So 397 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 2: we'll keep an eye on that, and the Terrek Schooble 398 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 2: trade continue. Potential trade continues to dominate the trade deadline. 399 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 2: And I just think as long as the Tigers think 400 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 2: they can make the playoffs and do something in the playoffs, 401 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 2: I think they're going to hang on to Trek schoubl 402 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 2: But the minute they fall, the minute they falter and 403 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 2: say all right, this isn't going to happen, He's gonna 404 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 2: go so we're all be held captive here because the 405 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 2: Tigers and maybe the Padres are going to own the 406 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 2: trade deadline based on these two, you know, game changing pictures. Agreed. 407 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I just want to set the record straight. 408 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: We're recording just after seven o'clock in the morning on 409 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: Sunday morning, so anything that might break, not saying Scoob's 410 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,239 Speaker 1: gonna go anywhere in the next twenty four hours, but 411 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: before we release, just so you know, that's kind of 412 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: time stamping when we're recording and we can report that 413 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: Lebron James is a Philadelphia seventy six or that trade 414 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: or that signing did go through. And I gotta say, 415 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: Philadelphia is losing its mind over here. Dad. I was 416 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: on the golf course when we found out. I was 417 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: at the putting green. My buddy goes, Lebron to Philadelphia, 418 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: and I said, no, don't say no way, and yeah, 419 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: yes way, it's happening. And all the kids in our 420 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: neighborhood are freaking out right now buying their seventy six 421 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: Ers jerseys, which, by the way, they are the third 422 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 1: most liked team in this city. And it's not close 423 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: third by a long shot. Arguably, maybe fourth at times. 424 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 2: And the Eagles are first for sure, right, yeah, for sure? 425 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, Philly. 426 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: Second, Yeah, the Phillies or second, then it's tradable third, fourth, 427 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: Flyers and Sixers. I mean the Flyers, you know, made 428 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: a decent run last year, but uh so did the Sixers. 429 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: You know, they beat the Celtics for the first time 430 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: in the playoffs in light years. So anyway, it looks 431 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: like the Sixers are gonna jump up a little bit 432 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: with Lebron James on their team. 433 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 2: All right, that that sounds cool? 434 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, signing do you wanna no? 435 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 2: I just I just think it's great. And with Jalen 436 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 2: Brown now joining the Sixers, also from the Celtics. You know, 437 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 2: Dan Shaughnessy told me this while I was working or something. 438 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: He said, yeah, Lebron signed with the Sixers, and Dan, 439 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 2: who's the you know, just won the Redsmith Award. You 440 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 2: know what really appeals to him is how much better 441 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 2: this is going to make the Sixers Celtics rivalry Because 442 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 2: the Celtics traded Jalen Brown to the Sixers and now 443 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 2: the Sixers have signed Lebron James. It's just priceless. This 444 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 2: is why sports is so good, Jeff. It surprises us 445 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: every day, all Right's the last thing for the takeaways, Jeff, 446 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: Mike Toomey, our dear friend, our scout friend who's way 447 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: more than a scout. He sent me a text the 448 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 2: other day of him scouting Salvador Perez when sal was 449 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 2: sixteen years old. Sixteen years old, and he sent me 450 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 2: the video of Sal Perez really big, but much thinner 451 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 2: because he's gotten thicker as does everyone else in age 452 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 2: at age sixteen. And he sent it to me on 453 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 2: the day that sal Perez hit home run number three 454 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 2: eighteen to pass George Brett for most home runs in 455 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 2: the history of the Kansas City Royals. And I find 456 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: this interesting, Jeff, So, now, among primary catchers, only two 457 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 2: catchers primary catchers are their franchise leader in home runs, 458 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 2: Johnny Bench with the Reds and Sal Perez with the Royals. 459 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,479 Speaker 2: Is that surprise you at all? Or you know catcher 460 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 2: is a mostly a defensive position, right, Good for both, 461 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 2: Good for both of those guys. 462 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: Right right. My only other guest would have been Mike Piazza, 463 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: but I know he's not the Mets leader, so I mean, yeah, 464 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: that is a little bit surprising, But there's. 465 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 2: Right. Our team tim is going to get into home 466 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 2: runs by positions. We'll tease you a little bit on that, 467 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 2: but you're right, Pee Alonzo is the so Pete Alonso 468 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:55,959 Speaker 2: and Perez are one or two of five active players 469 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 2: who are the who are a current franchise in home runs. Perez, 470 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 2: of course, Wait with the Royals? 471 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: Can I guess some others? 472 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 2: Sure? 473 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: I didn't want you to list him off. I want 474 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: to try to guess. 475 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: You already said one of them? 476 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: What? Oh uh? Pee Alonzo? 477 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? With the Mens? 478 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: With the Mens? 479 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 2: Okay. 480 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: My favorite one is gian Carlos Stanton with the Marlins, 481 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: right right, because he hasn't played there in years. 482 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 2: Twenty seventeen, yes, all times? 483 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: Wow? Okay? And then isn't Mike Trout Angels? 484 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 2: Yes, Jeff, you're doing great on this. I don't know 485 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: how you know this. I the last one. This guy 486 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 2: hit home run of his career number three ninety one 487 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 2: the other day. He's going to hit four hundred and 488 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: way beyond that. Take a guess. This is this is 489 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 2: his well, this is his third team, third team. I 490 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 2: don't have it, okay. Manny Machado is the all time 491 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 2: pod so it Is Stanton, Alonso, Machado, Trout, and sal 492 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 2: Perez are the active players that lead a franchise in 493 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 2: home runs. Maybe not the franchise they're playing for at 494 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 2: the moment, like John Carlos Stanton, but yeah, so I 495 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 2: love that stuff. It's so good. 496 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: All right, Dad, let's go to the questions. What do 497 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: you have for us? 498 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 2: All right? So, Gavin Williams of the Guardians had an 499 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 2: immaculate inning the other day, and that is, of course, 500 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: nine pitches, nine strikes, three strikeouts. We've talked about this before, 501 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 2: but some people think an immaculate inning should be just 502 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 2: what I said, but nobody makes contact with the ball. 503 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 2: So if you hit a foul ball, it's a strike, 504 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 2: but it's not an immaculate inning because the hitter actually 505 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 2: hit it. Do you I think that's a little too much. 506 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 2: Three batters, nine strikes, three strikeouts. That's good enough for you, right, Yeah? 507 00:27:58,640 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 1: I think so. 508 00:27:59,680 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 2: I was. 509 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: That's the first one to really think of that as well. 510 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,959 Speaker 1: Dad is like, oh, well, if they're foul tipping, foul tipping, 511 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: and then you know, but it's almost impossible, and I 512 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 1: don't even think we have the numbers on that, so 513 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: to speak. At least the statistics probably didn't start getting 514 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: foul tips, and you know, strike swinging for years, but no, 515 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: I think immaculate inning nine strikes or nine yeah, well 516 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: nine strikes yep, and three strike us round at. 517 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 2: Least twenty years ago, Jeff, I was in a cab 518 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: going to PNC Park in Pittsburgh and I had a cab. Well, 519 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 2: I was in Pittsburgh. I'm not sure where I was going, 520 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 2: not the point, And a cab driver said, I guess 521 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 2: he recognized me sitting in the backseat. He goes, I 522 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 2: got a great trivia question for you. Who did something 523 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 2: twenty eight times that nobody else has done more than once? 524 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 2: And I have no idea what he's talking about. So 525 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 2: I give up, and I said, what's the answer, and 526 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 2: he goes, Nolan Ryan had twenty eight immaculate innings and 527 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 2: no no one else has had more than one. At Jebre, 528 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 2: there was no way as great as Nolan Raye was 529 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 2: that he had twenty eight immaculate innings. But this is 530 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 2: just goes to show you how terrible sports trivia it 531 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 2: can be. And I wasn't about to tell the guy 532 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 2: you're so far wrong on this because the Elia Sports 533 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: Bureau can only go back forget it. I didn't want 534 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 2: to make fun of a cab driver who loves bas. 535 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: Like, oh wow, and then you kind of just move on. 536 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 2: Wow. You didn't know that, Thank you very much. I'll 537 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 2: get out here. 538 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: You know, but sir, we're not at your stop yet. 539 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: It's okay. I'll just I'll walk the rest. 540 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 2: All right. Couple things, Jeff, I keep telling you that 541 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 2: the hit by pitch rate is that basically a historic 542 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 2: high in the major leagues. And the other day we 543 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 2: had seven hit batters in the Astros White Sox game 544 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 2: last Friday, and that's first time since April thirteenth, twenty 545 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 2: twenty one, and the Padres and White Sox combined for 546 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 2: n hit batters. It happens all the time. It's an epidemic. Now, 547 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 2: guys with this incredible stuff that they can't always command, 548 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 2: and guys are getting hit at a historic rate. I 549 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 2: keep track of hit by pitches. I've always been fascinated 550 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: by hit by pitches. Maybe that's the name of my 551 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 2: next book, Jeff, I'm fascinated by hit by pitches either way. 552 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 2: Seven now, Jeff, just to finish the quirkchins, the commissioner 553 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 2: of is this a great game or what? Mike Sure 554 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 2: sent me a text message like in the middle of 555 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 2: the night the other night, and he is totally confused, 556 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 2: and I don't blame him. Okay, let me quickly set 557 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 2: up what happened. Giants are playing the Angels, bottom of 558 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 2: the tenth inning, and I think it's the tenth It 559 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 2: doesn't matter. It's the last inning of the game, and 560 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: six to six the bases are loaded, and Raphael Devers 561 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,239 Speaker 2: of the Giants comes up and hits a ball that 562 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 2: bounces and goes over the fence for an automatic double. 563 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 2: Not a ground rule double. It's an automatic double. I 564 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 2: don't want to be a pedantic little twit about that, 565 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 2: but it should be referred to as an automatic double. 566 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 2: So the ruling was that Dever's got a single and 567 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 2: one RBI because the rules clearly state in the rule 568 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 2: book that you don't get credit for all the runs 569 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 2: you drove in there. Just as soon as the winning 570 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 2: run touches home plate, everything after that no longer matters. 571 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 2: So Mike Sure, one of the smartest baseball people I've 572 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 2: ever met and the commissioner of our show, says, I 573 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 2: don't understand this, he hit a ball that went over 574 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 2: the fence on one hop. It should be a double 575 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 2: and it should be two RBIs and they should win 576 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: the game eight to six, not seven to six. And 577 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 2: yet the rules clearly state that once that winning run 578 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: crosses home plate, nothing else everything is dead after that. 579 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: Are you in agreement here, Well, if you hit a 580 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: home run and there were three runners on, what's the 581 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,959 Speaker 1: final score? But the final run across the plate first, 582 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: and if it were tied, it would be seven to six. 583 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: But if you hit a three home run, it's nine 584 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: to six. Right, So, like Jeff, to a certain degree, 585 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: I could make the argument since the ball left the 586 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: park even though it bounced, I would agree with that. 587 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: I understand if you hit a ball to the outfield, 588 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: the center fielder goes, uh, all right, it's over right, 589 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: and you shouldn't get a triple because you might have 590 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: made it to third, right, or you even ran a third. 591 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: The game's over when that run crosses. But with an 592 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: automatic double and a home run, I think they should 593 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: follow the same guideline. 594 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 2: No, well, that's a good point. So I checked with 595 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 2: two official scorer friends of mine who do this and 596 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 2: did or do this for a living and one said, yes, 597 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,719 Speaker 2: it's seven to six. Rule book states clearly. And then 598 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 2: I talked to my friend Phil Wood, who used to 599 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 2: be an official scorer, and Phil was more about baseball 600 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 2: than just about any person I've ever met. He's intimidating 601 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 2: his logic, his memory is encyclopedic. But he was an 602 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 2: official scorer for years, and he had never dealt with 603 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 2: a situation like this where a ball bounces, goes over 604 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 2: the fence and you only give a guy one RBI. 605 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 2: He thought, logically he should get two RBIs on that 606 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 2: play because the ball went over the fence, but because 607 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 2: it bounced in the field of play, unlike a home 608 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 2: run that went over the fence, it's only a single. 609 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 2: So Jeff one of our great listeners viewers, Finn Joint, 610 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 2: what a great name that is, he writes in and 611 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 2: just like just like Mike, Sure, he's confused about this 612 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 2: and he finds this game on September seventh, nineteen fifty 613 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 2: one tie score National Senators and Yankees. Joe DiMaggio comes 614 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: up and hits a double to score or two runs 615 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 2: walk off double in the bottom of the ninth inning, 616 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 2: and he gets credit for a double and two RBIs 617 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 2: and they win the game four to two, not three 618 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 2: to two. And his question is, what happened? Why does 619 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 2: Samagrio get two RBIs there and Raphael Devers only gets one? 620 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 2: So he actually found a game that flies in the 621 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 2: face of the official scoring rule here. It was so interesting. 622 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 2: So I called Steve Hurt formerly of the Elias Sportsbureau. 623 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 2: Steve Hurt is one of my all time heroes in 624 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 2: his business, and he said, Tim, I just don't think 625 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 2: back then that they took it so seriously about an 626 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 2: RBI and the official scoring rules. Maybe they just laxed it. 627 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 2: Maybe they changed the rule. I'm not sure. But just 628 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 2: one more time, Jeff, are you in favor of a 629 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 2: double and two RBIs for Devers or did they call 630 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 2: it right because the rule book says they called it correctly. 631 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: Well, we don't know what happened, right, We don't know 632 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: how many alps there were. So hear me out. Okay, 633 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: let's just say the runners run second and third and 634 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: he reached second before. Well, no, but to RBIs, it 635 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't matter because the first guy would pass right, So 636 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: I got nothing for you. 637 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 2: First guy would cross home plate. The second goal doesn't matter. 638 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,240 Speaker 2: According to today's rules. I just think it's a really 639 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 2: interesting question. And even though I'm going by the book 640 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 2: on this, but when Mike Sure is this adamant about 641 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 2: something and he's the commissioner of is this a great 642 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 2: game or what? I think we need to talk about that. 643 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: Do you have any more fortunes? 644 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 2: Yes, I do, Jeff, and so does everyone who watches 645 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 2: and listens to is this a great game or what? 646 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 2: Because Saturday night we had the Bryce Elder Brandon Young 647 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 2: star pitching matchup with the Braves at the Orioles, and 648 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 2: every person who writes to us, and we have a 649 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 2: lot of people who write to us, say basically every 650 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 2: one of them started the same way. I know you've 651 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 2: seen this, but we've got an Elder versus Young matchup 652 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 2: in Baltimore. It's just it's just my favorite. And a 653 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 2: couple guys pointed out, of course, is that Young is 654 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 2: slightly older than Elder, which we I thought was kind 655 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 2: of fun. And you know, I keep track of these things. 656 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 2: You know, when I was covering the Rangers in the 657 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 2: early eighties, we had a Mike Mason Ken Dixon matchup, 658 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 2: not once, but multiple times. So the Mason Dixon we had. 659 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 2: We've had Thomas Diamond against Chris Sale, the Diamond Sale 660 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 2: and of course my favorite, you know, Yvan Nova against 661 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 2: Matt Cain. We had the Nova Caine matchup, So this 662 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 2: one is in there. We had a young young elder 663 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 2: and young was older than elder. You love that stuff too, right, Jeff. 664 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 2: I will say about our fans, Jeff, that they were 665 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,479 Speaker 2: all over this and they just wanted to make sure 666 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 2: we didn't miss this. Isn't that great? 667 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: It's the best thing about members of the family. You 668 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: want to become a part of the family. Message us 669 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: great game or what dot com? Scroll all the way 670 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 1: down and also that's where you can find the link 671 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: to our YouTube. So if you're an audio only person, 672 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: we love you all good. But if you want to 673 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: subscribe to YouTube and watch us as well, you can 674 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 1: do that. On this date in baseball history, dab what 675 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: do you have? 676 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? July twenty seventh, nineteen twenty seven, mel a Hall 677 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 2: of Famer, hit the first of his five hundred and 678 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 2: eleven homers, and it was an inside the park homer, 679 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 2: and he would hit five hundred and ten more homers 680 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 2: and never hit another inside the park homer again, only 681 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 2: in baseball? Can this happen? Right? 682 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 1: And he did it on seven, twenty seven, twenty seven, 683 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: which I just really like that. 684 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 2: That is so great, And I bring this up once 685 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 2: in a while, but Butch Henry, former major league pitcher, 686 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 2: hit one career home run and it was an inside 687 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,720 Speaker 2: the parking run. I mean, Keev, seriously, how can that happen? 688 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 2: I can't happen all right? Happy birthday to Floyd Rayford. 689 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 2: He was born on this date in nineteen fifty seven. 690 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 2: And if I may personalize this, Rafe was one of 691 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,959 Speaker 2: my favorite people I ever covered. Had a tremendous sense 692 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 2: of humor, was a really good hitter, but never took 693 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 2: himself too seriously. So when I went to cover the 694 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 2: Rangers for the Baltimore Sun in nineteen eighty six, I'm 695 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 2: with Richard Justice and I am on the plane going 696 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,720 Speaker 2: to Florida to cover the Orioles in spring training, having 697 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,399 Speaker 2: just covered the Rangers for the previous four years at 698 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 2: the Dallas Morning News. So Richard introduces me to Floyd Rayford. 699 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,839 Speaker 2: Floyd Rayford takes one look at me, having never met 700 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 2: me before, and said Eddie, meaning Eddie Murray. He goes 701 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 2: Eddie's gonna hate you. I said, why Eddieburry's gonna hate me? Why? 702 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,479 Speaker 2: He goes, your head is too big for the rest 703 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 2: of your body. That's what he said. So look, I 704 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 2: have a tiny body and I have a little head. 705 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 2: But I had to go into the bathroom at the 706 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 2: all the airplane to look at my head to see 707 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 2: if it was that much bigger than the rest of 708 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 2: my body. So that's that's how I met Floyd Rayford. 709 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 2: Eddie's gonna hate you. How about that? 710 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: Too good? 711 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 2: That's amazing, too good? All right? Last birthday. On this 712 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 2: date in nineteen seventy five, Alex Rodriguez was born. He 713 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 2: and Mark Reynolds hold the record for most home runs 714 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 2: hit on their birthday. Alex Rodriguez said, six homers on 715 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 2: his birthday. Mark Reynolds, who it? You know? Two hundred 716 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,879 Speaker 2: and ninety nine homers. We got to get him as 717 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 2: a guest, Jeff. He's so funny, he's so smart. He 718 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 2: did so many things. Mark Reynolds had six homers on 719 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 2: his birthday. I asked him about it once. He goes, 720 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,479 Speaker 2: you know, I hold a lot of weird records out there, 721 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 2: and that's you know, he strikeout records and everything else, 722 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 2: and I can't help but tell the story. I just 723 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 2: love Mark Reynolds so much. I did a story on 724 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 2: how difficult it is to hit in the major leagues. 725 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 2: And his mother is like the greatest baseball fan ever 726 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 2: and she knows exactly what she's watching when she watches 727 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,919 Speaker 2: any game. And he told me, he said, he said, 728 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 2: I talked to my mother today and she asked me, 729 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 2: how did you miss that two oh slider last night? 730 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 2: And he had to say, Mom, It's not that easy. 731 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 2: It's not that easy, all right. So those are that 732 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 2: is this date in baseball history. 733 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: Let's go to the wheel of Kirkchin and your suggestions 734 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 1: placed on the wheel. Dad riffs off on what we 735 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: got here. We go Cooper's Town Secrets. 736 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 2: Well, I love Cooper's I can't believe we ran onto that. 737 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,320 Speaker 2: But I'm going to retell a story that of Tony 738 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 2: Gwinn who went in with Cal Ripken in two thousand 739 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 2: and seven. Best was the best induction I've ever been to. 740 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 2: You've been there too, So I see Tony Gwynn Junior 741 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 2: in the lobby of the Oda Saga Hotel at nine 742 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning on induction day so I say 743 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 2: to Tony Junior, who was on our podcast last year. 744 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 2: I said, Tony, how's your dad doing? He goes, he 745 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 2: sent me down here to get a beer for him 746 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 2: at nine o'clock in the mourning so isay. He said, 747 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 2: he's so nervous he needs a beer. And then Tony Jr. 748 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 2: Looks at me and goes, my dad doesn't drink, so 749 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 2: he was going to start drinking every day. So he 750 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:55,359 Speaker 2: didn't have the beer. He absolutely crushed his speech. So 751 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 2: I told this story, this story to Andrew Jones in 752 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 2: the Odasaga lobby the other day, that if you're nervous 753 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 2: about your speech, it's okay. Tony Gwynn was nervous enough 754 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 2: to send Sundown for a beer and he ended up 755 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 2: crushing his speech. And then one of Andrew's you know 756 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 2: guys right there, said all right, I'll bring you a 757 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 2: beer on Sunday morning. I promise. He said that to 758 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 2: Andrew Joes. I'm sure Andrew didn't need it, but that's 759 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 2: one of my favorite Cooperstown secret stories. 760 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: All right, next spin here we go. Let's see yup, 761 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:36,959 Speaker 1: that's blank one. Let's see oh video games? Baseball? Video games? Dad? 762 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 1: Can I take this one. 763 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 2: Yes, because Jeff, as we've acknowledged, I don't have the 764 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,359 Speaker 2: patience for video games. I don't I have great hand 765 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 2: eye coordination. I don't care how bad that sounds, but 766 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 2: when it comes to fine little motor skills, terrible at it. 767 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 2: What is your video game story? 768 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: Well, two time guests of is this a great game 769 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: or what? John bog Shambi, who's a very close friend 770 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,280 Speaker 1: of our family, right, he is the voice of MLB 771 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:10,320 Speaker 1: the Show, and so funny. I couple years ago pre kids, 772 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 1: was playing MLB the Show and Emily walks by my 773 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: wife and says, is that boog talking about my video game? 774 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: Because we've heard her. We've heard him call Games with You, 775 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,879 Speaker 1: among other games we've heard him call. And I said, yeah, 776 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: he's the voice. Well that was when members of the 777 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 1: family who listened to Great Game or What messaged us 778 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 1: Dad saying, oh my gosh, boog Shambi references your dad 779 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,399 Speaker 1: multiple times in the video game. But as you know, Dad, 780 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 1: they record these hours and hours and hours on end 781 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: and then algorithms play them when it's supposed to happen. 782 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 1: And John Boog Shamby told the story on MLB the 783 00:43:54,360 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 1: Show of you running in the Milwaukee sausage race, and 784 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: our listeners were trying so hard. One person saw it 785 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,359 Speaker 1: but said, I didn't get it on video, so they 786 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 1: were trying so hard to get that game back up. 787 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 1: A situation in which Boog would say that again playing 788 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 1: with the Brewers as the Brewers whatever they need to do. 789 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 1: And he told that story on the video. Okay, yeah, 790 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm not your brightest moment, but it was fun. That 791 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: was a fun brun Not going to. 792 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 2: Repeat that story because it takes ten minutes to say 793 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,840 Speaker 2: it properly, and we're not going to do that. I 794 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 2: will just tell you that I finished so badly, so 795 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 2: poorly in that sausage race that day, that the woman 796 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,439 Speaker 2: who was kind of running the thing, you know it's done. 797 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 2: In between innings, she was yelling at me get off 798 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 2: of the field, were ready to start the next inning. 799 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,359 Speaker 2: That's how slow I was running in this giant hot 800 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 2: dog outfit. It was the worst thing ever. It was 801 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 2: hysterically funny because I failed so miserably. I did not 802 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 2: know that Boog Chambi had referenced that on a video 803 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:08,799 Speaker 2: game error. 804 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,759 Speaker 1: Anybody has a suggestion for the wheel of Kirchen, do 805 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 1: us a favor great game or what dot com? Send 806 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,360 Speaker 1: us a suggestion and I'll add it to the wheel 807 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 1: for next week. All right, let's go to Team TIM 808 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 1: wrapping up today's episode, Dad, what do you have for us? 809 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 2: Right? So, this was a suggestion from Joe Astemeier, who's 810 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,720 Speaker 2: from Saint Louis. The older guy like me, loves the game, 811 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 2: tremendous recall. He's been a great help to me and 812 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 2: others on this podcast. So he said, you know, do 813 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 2: a Team Tim based on, you know, the best of 814 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 2: all time at each position at some particular statistic. The 815 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,919 Speaker 2: more arcane the better. But as a tribute to Jeff Kent, 816 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 2: who went into the Hall of Fame because he has 817 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,439 Speaker 2: the most home runs as a second baseman of any 818 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 2: second base in history, the Team Tim this week is 819 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 2: most home runs at that position all time. So you know, 820 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 2: it's not the most home runs that a right fielder hit, 821 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 2: it's the most home runs hit as a right fielder. 822 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 2: Does that you understand the distorted league, right sense? Okay? 823 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,879 Speaker 2: All right, So Mike Piazza is our catcher. He hit 824 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 2: three hundred and ninety six homers as a catcher. Mark 825 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,839 Speaker 2: McGuire is the first baseman five hundred and sixty six 826 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 2: homers as a first baseman. Jeff Kent, who we said 827 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty run homers at second, Mike Schmidt 828 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 2: five hundred and nine homers at third. Cal Ripken hit 829 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 2: the most homers as a shortstop three hundred and forty five. 830 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 1: Well, and that's important, an important delineation talking about as 831 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 1: a shortstop because Alex Rodriguez, you would make the argument, 832 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,400 Speaker 1: but he hit a lot of home runs at shortstop 833 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 1: and a lot at third base. So rambers get kind 834 00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: of cut in half. 835 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 2: Right, and so did cal Ripkan some degree because he 836 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 2: moved to third base at the end of his career. 837 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 2: Barry Bonds predictably had the most home runs as a 838 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 2: left fielder seven hundred and twenty five. Willie Mays, who 839 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 2: hit six hundred and sixty homers in his career, hit 840 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 2: six hundred and forty as a center fielder, and I 841 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 2: was surprised by this. Jeff, Sammy Sosa hit the most 842 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 2: home runs ever as a right fielder five hundred and 843 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 2: thirty eight. Now, Sammy Sosa hit over six hundred homers, 844 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,319 Speaker 2: but you would think Hank Aaron hit more. But he 845 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,399 Speaker 2: hit some as a DH and obviously hit some as 846 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 2: a left fielder. And Babe Ruth you would think with 847 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 2: seven hundred and fourteen must have the most as a 848 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,760 Speaker 2: right fielder, but he hit some of course as a pitcher, 849 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,320 Speaker 2: and there were certain days when they played in certain 850 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 2: ballparks where Babe Ruth played left field instead of right field. 851 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 2: And Wes Farrell, who we've talked about several times on 852 00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 2: this podcast, hit thirty seven homers as a pitch. Sure 853 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,960 Speaker 2: that is the most home run. So this came directly 854 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 2: from Frank at the Elias, because this can these are 855 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 2: tricky numbers, and I went to the main source on 856 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 2: this and said, look, I think I've got the answer 857 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 2: to most of these, but you we need to really 858 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 2: make sure these are correct. So Frank looked them up 859 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 2: for me, and that's it. Piazza, Maguire, can't Schmidt, Ripken, Bonds, Mays, Sosa, 860 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 2: and West Ferrell. Surprises at all are pretty much what you. 861 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,720 Speaker 1: Thought I think. Sosa, I mean you said it up front, 862 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 1: was definitely the biggest surprise for me. Again, hit over 863 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 1: six hundred in his career, But I mean, there's so 864 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 1: many other names I would have come up with. First 865 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: when they came to right fielders. 866 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 2: So interesting. So Jeff, that's the Team Tim, and I 867 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 2: have to say one more time. We get Team Tim 868 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:52,320 Speaker 2: requests like every week now from our listeners and our viewers, 869 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 2: and people keep writing in with these great lists. We'll 870 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,800 Speaker 2: get to all of them eventually. But that's one because 871 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 2: it's a Hall of Fame related list, because almost everyone 872 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,760 Speaker 2: on that list, or most of the guys on that list, 873 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 2: Some of the guys on that list are Hall of Famers. 874 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 1: All right, Dad, let's run through some details as to 875 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,280 Speaker 1: what's going to be happening over the next week. Okay 876 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 1: tomorrow on the podcast. You're already laughing. We have Jason Bennetti. 877 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 1: We have Jason Bennetti. If you don't know Jason, oh 878 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,799 Speaker 1: my gosh. So he is play by play broadcaster for 879 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 1: the Detroit Tigers. But he also, now, Dad, has a 880 00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,400 Speaker 1: very big new job right. 881 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,720 Speaker 2: Right at NBC Sunday Nights. He does a great job, 882 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 2: and it's just a warning to all of our listeners 883 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,960 Speaker 2: and viewers. I'm not sure we asked him a real 884 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 2: baseball question until about minute number forty. The rest of 885 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 2: it was complete nonsense. But he is one of the 886 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 2: funniest and cleverest people I've ever met. So we had 887 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,879 Speaker 2: a bunch of laughs with somebody who understands humor as 888 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 2: well as anyone I've ever met. 889 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's incredible. And then Dad, of course, another episode 890 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,279 Speaker 1: on the thirtieth of July. And I want you to 891 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 1: know you are always the one telling me what's in 892 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:10,399 Speaker 1: the way of your schedule. I go to Maine this 893 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,160 Speaker 1: weekend for a wedding. Austin Blast, who I grew up with, 894 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,879 Speaker 1: is getting married in Maine, and I'm gonna be there 895 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:21,719 Speaker 1: leaving Thursday all the way through to Monday. So we're 896 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,440 Speaker 1: gonna have to figure out how to do the podcast. 897 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,359 Speaker 1: But instead of you being on the road, I'm gonna 898 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 1: be on the road. And then Dad, get this next week. 899 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,319 Speaker 1: Our next episode will be August the third, well not 900 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 1: our next one, but a week from today we'll have 901 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 1: August the third, which is the trade deadline, right, So 902 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 1: it's gonna be an exciting episode. 903 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have a lot of complications coming up. Jim, 904 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 2: might be time to call Kelly Kirchin again. What do 905 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:46,399 Speaker 2: you think about that? 906 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,759 Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, don't don't Wally pit me this or I 907 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,320 Speaker 1: have a microphone. I can bring with me that episode 908 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,799 Speaker 1: numbers did great. I can't lose this job. What am 909 00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 1: I gonna tell my wife? What am I gonna tell 910 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 1: my kid? By lose the podcast I started with my dad. 911 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 2: If you're not going to lose your job to your sister, 912 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,359 Speaker 2: she's great. But all right, we're going to handle all this. 913 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 2: And again, just one more reminder how magical Cooper's Down is. 914 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,399 Speaker 2: If you've never been here, you got to come here. 915 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 1: Okay, that's right, playing your visit for next year. Whether 916 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 1: you have somebody you love being inducted or not, it 917 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:27,279 Speaker 1: is magical in itself. Highly highly recommend. Thank you so 918 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 1: much for listening or watching. If you're on YouTube, make 919 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,360 Speaker 1: sure to like, subscribe, and comment. If you're listening on 920 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,719 Speaker 1: the audio stream, of course, follow leaving a rating really 921 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 1: helps five stars. If you feel that way, let us 922 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 1: know what you like about the show because it's important 923 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 1: to us and important to introduce the show to other 924 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,240 Speaker 1: baseball fans. Thanks for watching and listening, and it's always 925 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:47,960 Speaker 1: thanks for being a partner of our family.