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Speaker 1: And Huddle is a production of the NFL in partnership

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Alal, what's good everybody? You again have been experiencing the

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Speaker 2: l Huddle podcast. I'm will Save alongside my prima Edmana

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Speaker 2: and Jasa, Ruiz and Jay.

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Speaker 3: We've had guests upon guests.

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Speaker 2: We keep topping ourselves, right Yeah. This next guest that

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Speaker 2: we have on is a eleven time world title holder

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Speaker 2: in six weight classes. He also, by the way, is

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Speaker 2: an Olympic gold medalist. He's also president and founder of

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Speaker 2: Golden Boy Promotions, and there's a new documentary on his

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Speaker 2: life coming out on abo two part HBO documentary called

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Speaker 2: The Golden Boy, premiering July twenty fourth.

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Speaker 3: It is our sincere pleasure.

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Speaker 2: Said but at the net and also intro.

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Speaker 4: I think that was better than Michael Buffer.

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Speaker 1: It now you're just now you're just gassing us up.

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Speaker 3: Michael Michael is a is a funny dude. By the way.

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Speaker 2: He watches our show Good Morning Football, and every once

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Speaker 2: in a while he'll DM me saying, hey, will I

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Speaker 2: like your tie? He's very put together. Yeah, it's it's

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Speaker 2: always very important about the tie.

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Speaker 4: Boy.

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Speaker 2: Watching this documentary, so many things Damn, dude, you've lived

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Speaker 2: quite the life and what is many lives? This is

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Speaker 2: so revealing, so candid, see many sides of you.

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Speaker 3: And sometimes it felt.

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Speaker 2: Like we were eavesdropping on a therapy session. That's how

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Speaker 2: it felt like for us. Can only imagine how it

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Speaker 2: felt for you as you were going through this process.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was scary.

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Speaker 5: It was scary to uh, to reveal the truth on

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Speaker 5: how I was feeling throughout throughout my whole career, basically

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Speaker 5: from winning the Olympic gold medal when I was eighteen

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Speaker 5: years old and you know that promise to my mother,

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Speaker 5: her dying wish, from winning world titles. Yeah, it's it's

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Speaker 5: been a rollercoaster rite and I mean everything in between

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Speaker 5: what took place. It's like I'm revealing here in the

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Speaker 5: in the documentary, and I love the way we put

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Speaker 5: it together because it's raw, it's real, it's honest, it's

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Speaker 5: in your face, it's it's it's what people like in

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Speaker 5: my situation, in my you know, being an athlete at

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Speaker 5: the highest level, Like we don't talk about that, and

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Speaker 5: and you know, for for certain reasons, you know, mostly

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Speaker 5: because oh my gosh, what are people going to think?

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Speaker 4: Of us. You know, what are people going to think

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: But I had to do it too, and it was

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Speaker 4: a therapy session for me.

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Speaker 5: But I had to do it to free myself, to

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Speaker 5: free myself from that from the Golden Boy.

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Speaker 4: Basically.

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Speaker 1: You know, we were talking about this just before you

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Speaker 1: hopped on about just how transparent it was, and it

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Speaker 1: felt like so many of the themes that you hit

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Speaker 1: Latino community, right, Like you touch on the machismo, you

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Speaker 1: touch on the perfectionism. It's sort of shedding. It felt

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Speaker 1: like you were shedding some of those generational traumas, right,

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Speaker 1: and that's not an easy thing to do, especially not

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Speaker 1: as a man in the Latino community. Why now and

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Speaker 1: why did you want to share this story?

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's never too late.

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Speaker 5: I've been living as the Golden Boy for thirty plus years.

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Speaker 4: And it's it's it's a it's.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's society, fans, the media, everybody just labeled

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Speaker 6: me as as the gold Boy that you know, everything

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Speaker 6: every life is beautiful.

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Speaker 5: And I have to keep on smiling, and you know,

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Speaker 5: I can't do anything wrong. Everything's beautiful and perfect. But

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Speaker 5: at the same time I was, I was not living

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Speaker 5: my life. I was not living literally like who I

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Speaker 5: they don't know who I who I really am deep

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Speaker 5: down inside and and and it's because of being conditioned

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Speaker 4: And so I wanted to tell my story.

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Speaker 5: From my perspective, how I feel, why I did the

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Speaker 5: things I did, why I became such a successful fight

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Speaker 5: very interesting story because I have like this love hate

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Speaker 5: to the Olympic Games in nineteen ninety two. And so

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Speaker 5: me so but it made me the golden boyst made

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Speaker 5: who I was inside the ring, like my escape was

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Speaker 5: That's where I felt the most safe. And so, you know,

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Speaker 5: boxing to me has always been a love hate relationship

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Speaker 4: Gave me everything I have now.

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Speaker 5: It taught me everything I have now, But at the

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Speaker 5: same time, I wasn't really doing it for myself.

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Speaker 3: How different do you think your life would have been?

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Speaker 2: And you touched upon it in the two part documentary series,

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Speaker 2: How different would your life have been had your mom

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's interesting.

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Speaker 5: It's a good question because I I really don't know

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Speaker 5: if I would have held that anger towards.

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Speaker 4: Her and I and and and.

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Speaker 5: Maybe we'd have we would have had a talk about

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Speaker 5: how I was feeling. You know, why did you treat

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Speaker 5: What was the meaning behind it? Of of the abuse?

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Speaker 5: You know, are you are you angry because maybe you

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Speaker 4: So I had a lot of questions for her, and

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Speaker 4: I don't know. It's interesting.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if I would have been motivated to

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Speaker 4: It's really difficult to answer.

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Speaker 7: That's a great question because My drive was my anger

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Speaker 5: I don't think I would have been the same. I

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Speaker 1: Ask for me, I asked, are you in therapy? Like

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Speaker 3: To be honest with.

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Speaker 5: You, sure, I've been through therapy.

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Speaker 4: I've been through rehabs, I've been through ever.

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Speaker 5: And you know, the one thing that I've done that's

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Speaker 5: Is you know, the first the first time I had

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Speaker 4: I was angry.

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Speaker 5: I was I was super angry because I just I

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Speaker 4: You know, you know, forgive your worst enemies and you

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Speaker 5: And so when I started talking to my mom in

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Speaker 5: the release that I felt, the weight off my shoulders.

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Speaker 5: You know, I've been doing therapy basically all my life,

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Speaker 5: forgive yourself and you know you can forgive other people.

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Speaker 4: And so all that trauma that.

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Speaker 5: We've been living all these years, you know, it takes work.

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Speaker 4: It takes work. They work, it takes it takes a

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I asked that real quick. Well, because you know,

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Speaker 1: I have so many conversations and I think for for

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Speaker 1: all of us who are children of immigrants, right, that's

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Speaker 1: not something we're taught. We're taught the opposite, right bottom,

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Speaker 1: So there's so many other layers there. And I always

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Speaker 1: talk about this with my siblings, with my primos. Your

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Speaker 4: Well, it's because of their trauma, totally right. They passed

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Speaker 8: Just didn't know how to express themselves, didn't know you know,

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Speaker 8: it's the man is the macho and you know, basically

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Speaker 5: I mean, it was very difficult for me to to

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Speaker 5: And so that was probably one of the most difficult

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Speaker 4: And so you're always waiting for those words like son,

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Speaker 5: And it's funny because after all these years of therapy

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Speaker 5: The the the the the the courage to one day

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Speaker 4: It was like three years ago. Literally, I was like

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Speaker 5: Know, I was like nervous, and how would he react?

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Speaker 5: You know, is he gonna tell me, you know, to go?

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm sorry, I already know, yeah, oh yeah, no, yes,

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Speaker 5: I was literally afraid of telling my father I love

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Speaker 4: I just didn't know what it was going to be.

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Speaker 5: And so when I told him I love you, guess what,

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Speaker 4: Loves me back. So it's it's it's it's.

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Speaker 5: Like almost we have to be the parents they get older,

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Speaker 5: absolutely and make them realize that, you know, it's never

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Speaker 2: It's it's funny that you said that, because I remember

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Speaker 2: and that resonated with me when I watched this documentary.

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Speaker 2: It also resonated with me because ANGI, you brought up

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Speaker 2: get Perfecto and too perfecto, right, And your dad even

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Speaker 1: Actually, not so much Oscar before we let you go.

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Speaker 3: All right, ready we got Oscar.

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Speaker 2: This has been an absolute pleasure talking to you again.

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Speaker 3: This this two part.

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Speaker 2: HBO documentary is called The Gold Boy, premieering July twenty fourth.

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Speaker 2: It just shows all sides, bad, everything that you could

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Speaker 5: And yeah, people are gonna, yeah, people are gonna are

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Speaker 3: Well, yes, I told MJ before we came on.

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Speaker 2: Gregario's very polished, exactly, and to see this, it completely

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Speaker 2: shatters your image of him where you're you're left in awe,

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Speaker 2: You're left frustrated, you know, and all these different emotions

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Speaker 1: Like, look, the doc is is heavy, right, Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: heavy for so many reasons, not just because he is

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Speaker 1: unloading so much that has been literally on his shoulders

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Speaker 1: his entire life, but because, like we talked about with Olscott,

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Speaker 3: In the semis liberated.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that he's found that freedom, that he's in a

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Speaker 1: high profile celebrity, and so I think everybody deserves that

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Speaker 1: piece within them, even though it's a lifelong journey to

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Speaker 1: get there right and to maintain it. But the fact

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Speaker 1: and now that he's putting it out there, and whether

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Speaker 1: it's just for him to get it off his chest,

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Speaker 1: it's going to help people and it's going to resonate

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Speaker 1: with a lot of folks. And so I'm I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: really proud that we got to see this before. You know,

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Speaker 1: the larger the larger audience gets to So now we'll

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Speaker 1: have time to sort of digest. I'll talk to my

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Speaker 2: Well, he had tweeted out that I have been to

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Speaker 2: hell him back nine times over, so right.

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Speaker 3: I could be me And that's exactly what he did.

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Speaker 2: And we didn't really even delve into his boxing career

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Speaker 2: case in my family too, that his fights were events

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Speaker 2: and he thought all the big fighters everyday, you know,

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Speaker 2: Judio says Javez. You know, I mean like all of

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Speaker 2: them a paqiao. He had fought all of them, didn't

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Speaker 2: shy away from them, and.

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Speaker 3: He was very successful there.

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Speaker 2: And then also as a promoter, it was literally Don

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Speaker 2: King and Bob Aram who were the main ones who

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Speaker 2: monopolized that game, that business. And here he comes, Yeah, totally,

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Speaker 2: and and he came in and he gained the trust

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Speaker 2: of boxers like Hopkins, who after after he went toe

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Speaker 2: to toe with Oscar, joined them at Golden Boys.

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Speaker 4: Crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the most full circle thing, you know, I didn't

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Speaker 1: we have so much to unpack there, and yeah, be

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Speaker 1: you know this about me. Early on my career, I

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Speaker 1: So I was doing a lot of like Caribbean boxers

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Speaker 1: right like amateur level. They're just really trying to get

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Speaker 1: Every time I would interview these guys would reference what's

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Speaker 1: gotta Lahwaya Like he is that iconic sort of symbol,

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Speaker 1: especially for Latino boxers to reach that pinnacle. He's checked

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Speaker 1: off every single box that there is to accomplish in

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Speaker 1: the boxing world and then some So I think it's

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Speaker 1: so interesting. I think watching back in the documentary and

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Speaker 1: seeing him idolize other guys, and it's like, you're that

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Speaker 1: dude now right, and now you're representing the next generation.

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Speaker 1: So there's just there was so much nostalgia and so

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Speaker 1: much to look for. Like, I really hope everybody goes

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Speaker 1: to watch this stock if nothing else, if you're a

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Speaker 1: boxing fan, it's a must watch for sure.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I couldn't have said it better.

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Speaker 2: Learning things about you learned things about him on this

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Speaker 2: edition of the l Huddle podcast.

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Speaker 3: I'm check.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's been fantastic. You guys were getting closer. I'm

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Speaker 1: glad that we had a little like interest sport break right,

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Speaker 1: because we're going to be full on NFL in the

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Speaker 1: coming weeks as we get into training camp. Well as always,

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Speaker 1: I mean you you said it off the top. We

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Speaker 1: keep topping ourselves with these guests. Yeah, Anio, i'mm Jacosta

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Speaker 1: releas for Will Salva. This is in Huddle. We love

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Speaker 1: you guys. Can't wait to see you at the next

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Speaker 1: or hear you in the next episode.

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Speaker 2: I also everybody as.

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