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Speaker 1: George Santayana famously said, those who do not learn the

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Speaker 1: lessons of history are doomed to repeat them. This is

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Speaker 1: what drives the world's jewry, as it is known the

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Speaker 1: Jewish community to never let anyone forget that the Holocaust happened,

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Speaker 1: under the theory that when you do, you dishonor the

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Speaker 1: memory of those who died, but you make it possible

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Speaker 1: to happen again. There are a number of Armenians who

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Speaker 1: so much anger over not COVID, not a virus, but

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Speaker 1: And I've had a number of them say to me

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Speaker 1: since then, well I was scared. Okay, well I got

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Speaker 1: bad guy. And they were over. No, that doesn't work

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Speaker 1: that way. You being in a state of fear does

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Speaker 1: not authorize you to make bad decisions and ruin other

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Speaker 1: people's lives. One of the ways that was done, and

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Speaker 1: this President is trying to solve this problem, trying to

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Speaker 1: fix it, trying to make it right. Is that brave,

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Speaker 1: honorable Americans who wore the uniform to protect and defend

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Speaker 1: our country lost their jobs because they would not take

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Speaker 1: the clot shot people of principle, and that is awful,

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Speaker 1: is absolutely awful. And doctor Mary Tally Boden, who has

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Speaker 1: forget what happened. She brought to my attention a fellow

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Speaker 1: by the name of Derek Wynn, who I understand was

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Speaker 1: that killed so many people, including my brother, and he

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Speaker 1: since then trying to get politicians to act on provable

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Speaker 1: he is up to, and we will visit with him now.

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Speaker 1: Derek Winn, first of all, thank you for being willing

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for having me.

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Speaker 1: So tell me what happened, and take your time. We're

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Speaker 1: in no hurry to tell me how long you served

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Speaker 1: and where you served, and then we'll get to how

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Speaker 2: To do, all right. I enlisted pretty much at the

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Speaker 2: height of COVID, when they were still kind of touting

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Speaker 2: so I never really thought that the mandate would would

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Speaker 1: Derek. An interesting point, and that is that once people

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Speaker 1: interesting to watch them transform from now that I did it,

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Speaker 2: Yes, I said from the beginning every opportunity I've had

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Speaker 2: But basically once I started to once it was mandated

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Speaker 2: within the DoD, the Secretary of Defense mandated that every

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Speaker 2: at the time, there was no such vaccine ever made.

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Speaker 2: There was no such vaccine in the DoD's possession whatsoever,

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Speaker 2: So it was physically impossible to comply with these mandates

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Speaker 2: allows all of them to circumnavigate, circumnavigate all the hippo

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't even just a moment. Derek whims down the army

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Speaker 1: Michael Berry show. So Derek Wynn as our guest. He

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Speaker 1: This is misplaced priorities. This is how you lose wars.

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Speaker 1: This is how civilizations fall. He's our guest because he's

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Speaker 1: not going quietly, all right, So problems at the DoD

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Speaker 2: So people within the DoD knew that they never had

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Speaker 2: like myself were basicallywithstanding all the coercive tactics that they

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Speaker 2: It initially started off completely voluntary, and they had this

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Speaker 2: all this inner agency collusion between the CDC, the World

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Speaker 2: this was like a political thing, but it was an

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Speaker 2: institutional thing that was being done, and it was extrapolated

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Speaker 2: throughout every sector of our society, and whistleblowers within the

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Speaker 2: DoD there's hundreds of us can prove it, and I've

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Speaker 2: spent the last three and a half years trying to

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Speaker 2: get my Congressman, Brian Babben, trying to get Senator Ted Cruz.

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Speaker 2: You know, Governor Greg Abbott, I'm a signatory of a

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Speaker 2: document called the Declaration of Military Accountability.

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Speaker 1: Hold just a moment, you led perfectly into what I

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Speaker 1: wanted to talk about, which is what yes Republican elected

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Speaker 1: officials have and have not done as a result of

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Speaker 1: It's the end of the world as we know it.

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Speaker 2: Michael R.

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Speaker 1: End of the world five. His name is Derek Wynn.

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Speaker 1: He served in the United States Army honorably. He refused

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Speaker 1: to get an experimental clot shot.

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Speaker 2: UH.

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Speaker 1: That's based on the mr NA platform that is now

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Speaker 1: very very suspect. More and more studies coming out to

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Speaker 1: say this is a terrible way to do it. But

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Speaker 1: either way, forcing a medical decision on a person and

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Speaker 1: kicking him out of our army over this and he's

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Speaker 1: not going lightly. So I want to talk about, Well,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about Brian Babbin's office. I'm disappointed to hear

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Speaker 1: that his staff will not let him speak with you,

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Speaker 1: which means, I mean he could make that happen if

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Speaker 1: he wanted to because Brian Babins's son Leif or life.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's leave for life is good

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Speaker 1: buddies with with Jocko Willink And I mean, he's a

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Speaker 1: guy's a badass Navy seal, and you know, you would

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Speaker 1: assume this guy would be very pro military guy. I'm

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Speaker 1: just I'm disappointed and surprised by this. Can you speak

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Speaker 1: to what's happened there.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, Well, so there's there's there's the Constitution, and

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Speaker 2: there's the institution, okay, and and and there's people who

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Speaker 2: are willing to die for the Constitution. And there are

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Speaker 2: people who are willing to die for the institution, okay.

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Speaker 2: And if he's so connected with the DoD, he may

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Speaker 2: not have the integrity to tell people, you know, tell

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Speaker 2: his buddies, hey, you messed up, you know, And that

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Speaker 2: takes that That's not an easy conversation to have. And

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Speaker 2: so I think, especially with all this money behind this technology,

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Speaker 2: I think it's political suicide to to really rock this boat.

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Speaker 2: So I think politicians have done everything in their power

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Speaker 2: to keep me at arms distance and treat me as

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Speaker 2: a disgruntled individual instead of a canary in the coal mine.

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Speaker 2: So that they can keep their heads safely buried in

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Speaker 2: the sand and pretend to still be out here like

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Speaker 2: these Charlatans, you know, you know, pretending to represent us,

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Speaker 2: but in actuality, they're I mean, in my opinion, they're

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Speaker 2: looking out for themselves. And at least that's the opinion

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Speaker 2: I get from his office, because, like I said, I've

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Speaker 2: never been able to actually have a conversation with him directly.

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Speaker 2: I've gone to the office and begged them to schedule

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Speaker 2: a phone meeting. I begged them for a skype meeting.

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Speaker 2: I told them I'd drive to Washington on my own

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Speaker 2: dime if that's what it took for me to get

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Speaker 2: a face to face And every time they give me

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Speaker 2: these polite pleasantries just to get me off the phone.

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Speaker 2: And for years I believed them, you know, and I thought, oh,

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Speaker 2: maybe it's just a scheduling thing or whatever, and they

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Speaker 2: kind of gas lit me into trying to you know,

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Speaker 2: shut me up. But after calling and calling and calling,

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Speaker 2: and as the narrative shifted more and more in our favor,

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Speaker 2: and more things came to light to expose that I

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Speaker 2: wasn't just some paranoid schizophrenic showing up to their office

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Speaker 2: with some three ring binder full of files. I thought

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Speaker 2: for sure that that they would, you know, gain some

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Speaker 2: type of appetite to listen to my plea. But the

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Speaker 2: more they tried to basically just get me to shut up,

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Speaker 2: the more I realized that they had zero desire to

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Speaker 2: look into this, which you know, I'm bringing to them

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Speaker 2: crimes against humanity, you know, and they're out there pretending

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Speaker 2: to be these you know, Captain America conservatives when in reality,

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Speaker 2: you know, they they don't care. I mean, their actions

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Speaker 2: at least lead me to believe, or their lack thereof

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Speaker 2: lead me to believe that they have, you know, no

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Speaker 2: desire to help the people. And what was an obvious,

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Speaker 2: you know, bait and switch, an obvious coercive, top down

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Speaker 2: pyranny basically, and so people like Ted Cruz he gets

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Speaker 2: out there. I had spent hours on the phone with

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Speaker 2: his former military legislative assistant, Tim dill okay, and I've

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Speaker 2: explained to him the intricacies of what happened, and there's

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Speaker 2: no way whatsoever they were not knowledgeable of what basically

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Speaker 2: the things I'm telling you right now, because I talked

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Speaker 2: to them about it, and the entire time we're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have to talk to our lawyers about this,

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Speaker 2: and blah blah blah. And so he has the opportunity

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Speaker 2: to get the heads of the DoD and the State

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Speaker 2: Department and all that under oath in front of the

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Speaker 2: world and in front of the American people, and he

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Speaker 2: knowingly and willingly only focused on the fact that all

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Speaker 2: of the religious accommodation request within the dd they were

525
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Speaker 2: being blanket denied. So up until COVID, if you didn't

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Speaker 2: want to get a vaccine for whatever reasons, you could

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Speaker 2: file a request to not get it, and they were

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Speaker 2: handing them out willy nilly because you weren't being used

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Speaker 2: as a labrat at the time. So when people started

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Speaker 2: filing religious accommodation request because they believed XYZ was in

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Speaker 2: the shots or for whatever reasons, honestly, a lot of

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Speaker 2: people were just using it as a way to get

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Speaker 2: out of it, because they saw that as a way

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Speaker 2: to get out of it. So the DoD was blanket

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Speaker 2: denying all of these because they couldn't have anybody in

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Speaker 2: the DoD not getting tested. It would mess up their

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Speaker 2: statistics and their numbers. So they went through thousands and thousands,

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Speaker 2: like hundreds of thousands of these requests and were denying

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Speaker 2: them at a rate like somebody did the match, but

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Speaker 2: it was like every few seconds, just long enough for

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Speaker 2: them to find where to click to deny. They were

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Speaker 2: just powering through these things, and that's a constitutional violation.

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Speaker 2: So Ted Cruz gets the head of the d D

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Speaker 2: on oath. He knows about the totality of the bait

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Speaker 2: and switch that was done to us, but he instead

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Speaker 2: uses that as an opportunity to grant stand to his

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Speaker 2: constituents about how he's an advocate for religious freedom and

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Speaker 2: he's going to fight for our religious rights and blah

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Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah, knowing that there's a greater crime

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Speaker 2: that was committed, but he refused to say a single

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Speaker 2: word about it, and that to me told me everything

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Speaker 2: I needed to know. So I'm an we Initially, there

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Speaker 2: was a documented called the Declaration of Military Accountability and

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Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty one service members signed it, and

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Speaker 2: I handed this document to Governor Ted Cruz. All right,

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Speaker 2: my local representative is Briscoe Caine, and I.

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Speaker 1: Spent another hour Governor Greg Abbott.

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Speaker 2: My apologies, yes, sir, yeah, my apologies. So my my

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Speaker 2: elected representative, my local representative is Briscoe Caine. He got

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Speaker 2: a hold of my number and I spent hours talking

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Speaker 2: to him on the phone about this, and he told

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Speaker 2: me there was nothing he could do for me because

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Speaker 2: Texas House was out of session. I had to wait

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Speaker 2: nine months before he could do anything. So he stayed

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Speaker 2: conveniently silent on it. But through him, he was doing

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Speaker 2: a campaigning event and Greg Abbott was in town. So

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Speaker 2: I showed up to that event and I personally handed

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Speaker 2: the Declaration of military accountability and some more paperwork to

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Speaker 2: Governor Greg Abbott himself. I have photo evidence of me

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Speaker 2: doing it, and I pled with him for for a

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Speaker 2: good thirty forty five seconds, please look into the there's

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Speaker 2: you know, I was made homeless because of this, you know,

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Speaker 2: and and there's all kinds of people falling through the

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Speaker 2: cracks because of what was done on an institutional level.

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Speaker 2: And I begged him to look into it. And I've

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Speaker 2: never once gotten a single phone call back from anyone

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Speaker 2: in his office. I've never once seen him make a

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Speaker 2: post about it. I've never want like and so even

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Speaker 2: my Congressman Brian Badman, I go in there and talk

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Speaker 2: to them, and they I'd say, you know, hey, the

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Speaker 2: people need to know what happened. You know, I'm seeing

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Speaker 2: you all day every day posting these dumb posts like

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Speaker 2: about taco Tuesday and these irrelevant things that mean nothing,

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Speaker 2: and you can't make one social media post about this.

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Speaker 2: So they were basically gaslighting me and telling me, oh,

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Speaker 2: we can't make individual posts for people with individual grievances.

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Speaker 2: And they were trying to do everything they could to

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Speaker 2: treat me as a disgruntled individual. Anytime they wanted to

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Speaker 2: talk to me, it was about, oh, how can we

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Speaker 2: get you back in the military, or how can we

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Speaker 2: get your discharged us upgraded? You know, they were basically

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Speaker 2: trying to work with the government to cover up our crimes.

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Speaker 2: They deleted all of the negative paperwork that they gave

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Speaker 2: us for refusing the shot internally, and now basically, in

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Speaker 2: twenty years time, the only proof that we were kicked

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Speaker 2: out for refusing the shot is like these stacks of

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Speaker 2: paperwork that each one of us has. That's the only

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Speaker 2: thing proving on not some crazy nut job. They just

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Speaker 2: made it all up because they doctored build the paperwork.

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Speaker 1: We are out of time, but our conversation continues, there

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Speaker 1: will be plenty more of this interview on our podcast.

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Speaker 1: It will be listed as bonus podcast with Derek Whinn

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Speaker 1: a US Army. They'll be posted to the podcast and

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Speaker 1: you can hear it in its entirety, including the bonus

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Speaker 1: portions over there.

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Speaker 2: Wells has left for me, Thank you and good night