1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in final hour of the week. 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: Our thanks to Florida Governor Ron Descantis who called in 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: to give us an update on the storm recoveries from 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: a hurricane. Ian appreciate him and appreciate certainly all of 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: you who are doing everything you can to help those 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: recovery efforts. And we're glad that our affiliate in Southwest 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: Florida is back up on air. That's our Fort Myers affiliate, 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: w f SX. We appreciate all of you that are 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: listening there right now. We know that you are dealing 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: with a lot of challenges and as I said to 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: the Governor, Buck and I will come down there and 13 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: help to the best of our ability when it is 14 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: the appropriate time. But when you are joined now by 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: Elbridge Colby. He's the co founder and principle of the 16 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: Marathon Initiative. Formerly US Assistant Deputy Secretary of Defense for 17 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: Strategy and Forced Development. His newest book is The Strategy 18 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: of Denial American Defense in an Age of Great Power 19 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: or Conflict, and Bridge, we appreciate you coming on. You've 20 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: been on before. Timing on this very apropos Last night, 21 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: Joe Biden said that we are the closest to nuclear 22 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: armageddon that we have been since nineteen sixty two. Do 23 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: you agree with that characterization and how much danger is 24 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: there of strategic nukes being used by Russia? Well, great 25 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: to be with you guys always on the show. That 26 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: got my attention. I mean, I think that's pretty real. 27 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: Obviously the President is prone to making off the cuff statements, 28 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: but I don't think he's wrong about that. I mean, 29 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: there have been some incidents in the later part of 30 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: the Cold War, the nineteen seventy three war and the 31 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: Able Archer exercise in nineteen eighty three, but I don't 32 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: think we're really ever as close as it appears. We 33 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: might be towards the Russians actually using nucer weapons now, 34 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: end of the world got forbid armageddon. I think that's 35 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: probably an exaggeration. But once nukes start getting thrown around, 36 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: you don't know how that's going to end, so I think, 37 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: And the thing is it could happen very rapidly. So um, Look, 38 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: a lot of people are saying it's a low probability event. 39 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: I don't know how they know that. Um, maybe, um, 40 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: but even if it's a low probability event, it's very 41 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: very high impact. Can I ask you a low probably 42 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: ability event that could destroy the world. It's kind of 43 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: a significant factory, right, That's a that's not a fat 44 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: tail situation. You want to play around with, Upbridge, What 45 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: do you think? I mean, I don't think anybody knows. 46 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: And Putin might even be pretty mercurial on this one himself. 47 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: What is a a probable red line in your mind 48 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: for where Putin would decide? You know what I gotta 49 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: I gotta escalate to de escalate, I'm firing. I'm firing 50 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: off a tactical nuke. Well, let me I don't exactly 51 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: know what his red line is. I'm not sure anybody 52 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: really does. Maybe he doesn't even really know. What I'll say, 53 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: is this? I mean, you know, if you were doing 54 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: a scenario for where the Russians might use nuclear weapons, 55 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: this is pretty close to what it's like. I mean, 56 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: the collapse of his military, political and humiliation, strategic isolation, 57 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: the collapse of the position in eastern Ukraine, and influence 58 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: even in other places like Armenia and Oars Rajan. So 59 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: politically it's really bad. Hey, b Look, we know he's 60 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: a nasty guy. That's not the issue, right, But if 61 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: he's such a nasty guy, shouldn't we be worried that 62 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: he nasty enough to use a nuclear weapon? And then 63 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: the third point is he spent They spent a lot 64 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: of money and time on recapitalizing their nuclear infrastructure. So 65 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: this is not like a cheap threat. It's not like 66 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: something they've forgotten about for thirty years and they're just 67 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: getting around too. They including on taxi nuclear weapons. And 68 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: by the way, he's saying, he literally saying he's not 69 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: a bluff. He could be bluffing, but you know, I mean, 70 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: he's increasing the cost of backing down. So what's his 71 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: red line? I don't know what his red line is, 72 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: but I would say, look, in the world of nuclear 73 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: you know, a nuclear world where you can't decisively defeat 74 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: even a nasty, evil guy like Putin, it's just it's 75 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: out of off the carbs. And I think something that 76 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: puts him in a situation where it's really that's that's 77 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: not his worst option. I would expect. I would expect 78 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: there's going to be a strong impetus in Moscow to 79 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: use a nuclear weapon. Probably locally like on the battlefield, 80 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: perhaps more than one designed to both shock but also 81 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: maybe to affect the battlefield. And I think it would 82 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: have a significant impact. And I think we have to 83 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: be very clear in our heads well we will or 84 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: more perfectly should not do in response to that. That 85 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: was the question that I'll be abated, right, what should 86 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: be done in response if they do that. Look, I'll 87 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: be honest with you, I don't think we should get 88 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: into a nuclear war with the Russians over Ukraine. I'm 89 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: support supporting the Ukrainians, although I think the Ukraine the 90 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: Europeans need to take lead. It's both unfair and also 91 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: it inhibits our ability to focus on Asia. But I 92 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: do think we should be supporting them. But we rightly 93 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: decided that Ukraine is not a NATO member state, it's 94 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: not worth war. And the fact is, if you're in 95 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: our security umbrella, if we get in the fight with 96 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: the Russians or the Chinese, we have to assume that 97 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: it's it's it's possibly going to go nuclear. And if 98 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: we're fighting on their doors, step in areas they repeatedly 99 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: expressed as a core interest. I mean, Barack Obama said 100 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: this repeatedly express as a core interest that there's we 101 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: have to assume that, and I why do we think 102 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: that we're more resolute over that than they are? Yes, 103 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: you know people like David Petreus going out there and 104 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: saying that we should blow up their military in Ukraine. 105 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: What do you think I mean, even if we responded conventionally, 106 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: they can't fight us conventionally, especially now that their army 107 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: is wasted, so they're they're going to have to go 108 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: nuclear if they're going to be able to fight us. 109 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: I just don't think the stakes are worth it. Like again, 110 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: Ukraine to me is we want to support them, We 111 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: want independent, strong, you know, secure enough Ukraine, but there 112 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: are limits to how far we should go. Okay, So Bridge, 113 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: how do we end this? Okay? Obviously everybody out there 114 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: is like, we'd prefer there not be nuclear weapons involved. 115 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: Hootin is being humiliated right now, hopefully, Yeah, yeah, most people, 116 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: And we got advances going on with Ukraine, but soon 117 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: we're going to be into the full on winter over there, 118 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: in which case it seems very difficult for the armies 119 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: to move that much. And so you kind of have 120 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: a hunker down situation where everybody defends their lines, and 121 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: theoretically that could go on for a long time. How 122 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: do we end this? What is an into the war 123 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: look like? And what are the probabilities are? When are 124 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: the probabilities that that might occur? From your analysis, it's 125 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: hard to see. I mean, I think there neither the 126 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: Ukrainians nor the Russians appear to want to settle at 127 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: this point. So I mean, I think if we got 128 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: into the situation where it's stalemated, it would sadly, it 129 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: would probably be bleeding on both sides along the lines 130 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: of Korea sort of nineteen fifty one to nineteen fifty three, 131 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: and then eventually a settlement. I mean, look, there's going 132 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: to have to be some kind of even an implicit settlement. 133 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: There doesn't need to be a formal trumpets of a 134 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: peace treaty, but there you know. I mean there hasn't 135 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: been a peace treaty on the Korean peninsula, but there 136 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: hasn't been a war since nineteen fifty three, So I 137 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: think some kind of negotiated settlement is going to be 138 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: and that may not leave. I mean, the Russians may 139 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: try again in ten years, you know, And that's why 140 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: it's going to be important, especially for the Europeans to 141 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: support the Ukrainians. But look, I think again, you know, 142 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: in the nuclear era, you cannot just wipe out a 143 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: country with nuclear weapons, and so I think we're going 144 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: to have to. I mean, what I hope we're thinking 145 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: about is, if you will, a theory of victory, which 146 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: is to say, how does this end in a way 147 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: that the Kremlin doesn't have a better option, and particularly 148 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: doesn't have a better option escalate by using nuclear weapons, 149 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: which puts US in a terrible position. So I don't 150 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: exactly know. I mean, what you're saying might actually kind 151 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: of solve the problem if there's sort of a culmination, 152 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: if you will, of the of the Ukrainian counter offensive. Obviously, 153 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: I think we all hope, you know, wish them success, 154 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: but I think, you know, if if it goes too far, 155 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: that is going to up the the dilemma that we 156 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: all face in terms of Russian nuclear use. Speaking of Bridge, 157 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: Colby Bridge, what happens with Crimea and all this, that's 158 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: something that hangs out there, but we usually are focused 159 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: just on the regaining of territory. The Russians have seized 160 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: in the eastern part of Ukraine, then there's the dawn 161 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: Bass region where they annexed and have these had this 162 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: referendum recently, but Crimea was annexed by the Russian Federation 163 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: years ago. Is that just is that going to be 164 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: accepted at the end of this? I think I think 165 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: Crimea is probably a whole other level. I mean, it 166 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: was Ukrainian territory. We haven't recognized it. But you know, 167 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: Medvedev said months ago that that was even a greater 168 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: red line and that would be sort of he connected 169 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: it to nuclear use. So I think, I mean, again, 170 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: we don't know. That's part of what's so dangerous here. 171 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: And I mean the situation the way it reminds me 172 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: a little bit right now is you know, right around 173 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving of nineteen fifty when America UN forces were going 174 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: north to Yalu and we dismissed the warnings from the 175 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: Chinese to intervene, which in retrospect looks very clear. But 176 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: if if Putin used a nuclear weapon at this point, 177 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: I don't think we would have any to say that 178 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: we were that we were surprised. So I mean, I 179 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean again, I think this is got 180 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: to be there's going to have to be some negotiation 181 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: at some point, which is going to be, you know, 182 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: the only way out of the only way to a 183 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: sort of a settlement bridge. There was talk early on 184 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: about Vladimir Putin's potential perceived weakness, maybe even health related 185 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: concerns that he could have he just turned seventy. I know, 186 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: it's always hard to assess, but it appears that some 187 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: of his allies inside of the military are finally speaking 188 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: out and challenging him publicly on how this war so 189 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: far has gone. Do we get any sense internally whether 190 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: Putin might be under any strife or turmoil, and how 191 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: that aspect of this could resolve itself, whether internal divisions 192 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: in Russia could play a role in a resolution. Yeah, 193 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I think there was an article at Washington 194 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: Post today saying that there was a very se here 195 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: and kind of close guy in Plutin circle who's now 196 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: speaking up against him. Has got a lot of attention 197 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: in Washington apparently. Um and and there's been more open 198 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: criticisms even from this sort of the kind of hawkish, 199 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: you know, Russian community. There was a guy, uh, one 200 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: of the regional governors they'd installed, you know, one of 201 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: these sort of Occupation Authority. Guys Um said that showing 202 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: you the defense minister should should have the decency to 203 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,599 Speaker 1: shoot himself for the for the absolute failure of the 204 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: Russian military. So I think, I mean, you have to 205 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: infer that there's pressure and some of and and Putin's 206 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: is increasing sort of desperation, suggest he is aware I 207 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: mean or feeling pressure. Um, I mean, I think we'll 208 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: sort of I mean, the least us on the outside. 209 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: But I would imagine even our I would wonder about 210 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: our intelligence capabilities given the Russian system, But I don't 211 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: think we would have a huge amount of warning if 212 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: something were to happen, right, if if we hear about it, 213 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: Putin's probably heard about it and had the plot or shot, right. 214 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: So I think it's it's very possible that he's unseated. 215 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: But what I you know, I think it's I don't 216 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: think that solves our problem. I think we could get 217 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: I mean, if you can look historically after the Cuban 218 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: missile crisis a couple of years afterwards, Krushchev was kicked 219 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: out partially because they thought he'd mishandled the Cuba crisis 220 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: and the Berlin crises. You know, but he was replaced 221 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: by Breznev, who initially was kind of more you know, 222 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: it was into day tank that eventually started pushing on 223 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: the West. So I mean, and the plausible contenders in 224 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: the Russians system don't necessarily seem different in degree. I 225 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: do think it would probably help because presumably the Ukraine War, 226 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: somebody's going to hang that like an albatross on Putin 227 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: and say I'm a new guy. But I wouldn't expect 228 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: Russia to like dramatically turn like a Yeltsin kind of situation. Ridge, 229 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for being with us, man, appreciate it. 230 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: What's your book again? The Strategy of Denial American Defense 231 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: in an Age of Great Power Conflict just came out 232 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: in paperback, So thanks for having me on, guys. Always 233 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: a pleasure. Appreciate your buddy. 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That's Tuttle radio dot com. So we were 253 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: just talking about the possibility of nuclear war. Pretty serious stuff, 254 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: I mean, about as serious as it gets, and for 255 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: a lot of us were thinking, well, you know, man, 256 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: that would be that would be really tough. I mean, 257 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: that's that's end of days kind of stuff. You want 258 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: to make sure you have a commander in chief with 259 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: nerves of steel, with a mind like a like a machine, 260 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: somebody who's really on it, Somebody just like Joe Biden. 261 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: Let me start off with two herds. May in America 262 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: is just in case any visit. Can we do this 263 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: one one more time? Let's do this? Could the commander 264 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: in chief? Everybody, let me start off with two herds 265 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 1: made in America. Two words claim hated America, math not 266 00:13:54,240 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: his strong cheering. Um. Yeah. Look, sometimes as you misspeak, 267 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: people who listen to this show know well that we 268 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: are imperfect. We talked three hours every day, fifteen hours 269 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: a week. There's a lot of words coming out of 270 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: our mouths. Sometimes we don't say and speak as articulately 271 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: as we would like. I still can't pronounce the state 272 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: of Nevada. Yes, yeah, there we go, There we go. 273 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: But you would think at the very open of your 274 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: speech if you said I just want to start with 275 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: two words, an alarm bell would go off in your 276 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: head when you got to made in and realize that 277 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: you would already hit two words and you hadn't gotten 278 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: to America. And sometimes people say, oh, I only want 279 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: you to hear six words. You know, it's more difficult 280 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: to keep track of those words. Maiden America is not 281 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: a very difficult phrase. It's a common one and everyone 282 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: out there, especially even including you know, five six year 283 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: old kids can count and say that's three words, mister president. 284 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: I was sitting here, I just wondering what the phone call. 285 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: If things really do get to that that def Con 286 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: two level or something, at some point Joe Biden calling 287 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: Putin on the phone, and maybe the best case scenario, 288 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: Biden has one of his sure it just starts yelling 289 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: the mutter, you know, muttering as he's done before, and 290 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: Biden is like, whoa, this dude is crazy, you know, 291 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden realizes like he doesn't want 292 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: to mess with him because the who the hell knows 293 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: what this guy's gonna do. In response, I will just 294 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: say this and I'm gonna keep reiterating it as long 295 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: as Biden as president. Think of all the awful, uncomfortable 296 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: dementia Waden gaffs that we see trying to talk to 297 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: a dead congresswoman going to start with two words here 298 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: and then immediately say three words. Imagine what's happening outside 299 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: of media and public consumption. Because we see Biden for 300 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: five percent of his day, the time that he is 301 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: most well prepped to be in the public view. Imagine 302 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: the things that he is saying behind closed doors. Now, 303 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: everything that Trump ever said behind closed doors, somehow, and 304 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: a lot of things he probably didn't say, ended up 305 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: on the front paget the Washington Post in New York Times. 306 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: What I will note is, and I think this is 307 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: significant so far, buck nobody inside the Biden White House 308 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: has ever given anonymous quotes about him being embarrassing behind 309 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: closed doors. In fact, the opposite sharp is attack. Yeah, 310 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: he's it's he's he's got energy of a thousand men. 311 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: I mean, he's like Damon in. He's like Matt Damon in. Um, 312 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: you know, goodall hunt hunting. He's solving the equations on 313 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: the blackboard when nobody's looking. Yeah, and we know that's 314 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: those are lies. We know when Karine John Pierre comes 315 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: out and says, oh, well, the President just tried to 316 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: talk to a dead congresswoman because she was top of mind. 317 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: I got a lot of dead relatives who were top 318 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: of mind. So far, I have never tried to talk 319 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: to them after their death. Certainly I haven't given them 320 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: a shout out in a public venue. That's troubling and 321 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: awfully concerning when we are potentially staring down nuclear war 322 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: and What I will say is this ties in with 323 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden's story. Buck, I think you will get 324 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: an onslaught, a waterfall of stories that will suddenly come 325 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: out as soon as Biden is not running, and all 326 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: of the unbelievable things that have been happening behind closed 327 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: doors to demonstrate how little control in capacity he has 328 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: will suddenly be a pain. This is why I think 329 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: the Hunter story was leaked from their own side to prepare. 330 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: This is kind of loading up the catapult. They haven't 331 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: fired it yet, but they're moving the big boulder into 332 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: place in case they decide time to find another option. 333 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: Which it's going to be a very interesting year in 334 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 1: politics next year, my friends, and we've got a huge 335 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: midterm election coming up to right now, look, there are 336 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: a few things that you can take full control of, 337 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: right I mean, inflation out of your hands. It sucks 338 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: right now. Senator Mike Lee was talking about us, talking 339 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: about this with us yesterday. It's the only thing is 340 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: constituency really wants to talk about on the campaign trail. 341 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: You know, the best impact you can have on inflation 342 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: is elect conservatives to Congress that will stop the reckless 343 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: spending of our federal government, and also when you can 344 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: look for areas of your own life where you can 345 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: save money without sacrificing anything. That's why pure Talk is 346 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: so fantastic. Pure Talk cellular service should be top of 347 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: your list for saving money with no downside. 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Name and yes, Kanye had an 357 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: interview with Tucker Carlson, but I think it might as 358 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: well be the theme song of Jesse Kelly aka Kamala 359 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: Harris and Sacramento in nineteen ninety six, Going out for Dinner. 360 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: We are joined now by Jesse Kelly, who many of 361 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: you will hear later in this evening. Good to see you, 362 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: good to talk to you. Syndicated radio host Jesse Kelly 363 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: and probably the tallest United States marine you have ever served. Jesse, 364 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,959 Speaker 1: what's up? Man? You know, I wish I could say 365 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: it was good to talk to you guys. I even 366 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: convinced myself maybe this would be fair in an even 367 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: handed interview and an accounting of the events that happened 368 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 1: that night. But as soon as I heard Gold Digger, 369 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: I knew why it was played, and I that my 370 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: honor has been has been besmirched on the great play 371 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: and Buck show. And now now we're enemies. Tell us 372 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: now we're enemy? All right? So the storyline for people 373 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: who might have missed it, went out to dinner as 374 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: friends on Well you were you went to like a play? Right? 375 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: Where did you go? On set? Jesse went to this 376 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: broad Way? This is why, This is why I didn't 377 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: want to come on. Yeah, okay, my wife wanted to 378 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: go see some sorry musical called Chicago. Yeah. I took 379 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: her to Chicago. Okay. I stuffed my sixth eighth frame 380 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 1: and its tiny, crappy little seat And did you have 381 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: good seats? Watched? No? Oh yeah we oh of course 382 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: we got good seats. I heeart, God love him hooked 383 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: us up with you. It's the person behind Jesse who 384 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: always has bad seats, by the way, because so you 385 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: spent two and a half hours at Chicago, yes, and 386 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: then when you came out, you came out to get free. 387 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: You went to a music and then you come out 388 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: to dinner with us or a post dinner and we 389 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: go to this hotel, this rooftop and uh, in order 390 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: to be seated, you have to order a bottle of something. 391 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: Because it's New York City, it's Buck's hometown. They and 392 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. Buck. I don't know 393 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: if you noticed this. Every time I go in anywhere, 394 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: they think that I can't afford anything. Maybe I don't 395 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: dress well enough, but clay in some of these establishments, 396 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: when they see tattered shorts and flip flopsy, they make 397 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: some assumptions. When it's like fifty degrees outside, I walked, 398 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: I walked it up to the guy at the at 399 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: the top of the hotel and I said, can we 400 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: get a table please? And he was like, well, you know, 401 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: you have to buy you know, to spend a lot 402 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: of you know, like basically it was like telling me, hey, 403 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: poor kid, like you can't afford to be here. I 404 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I can afford to buy a bottle 405 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: of wine. So we sit down, poor Wine, and you 406 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: order your own drink. Say, oh, I had to get 407 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: the tequila shots because I didn't. You ordered your own 408 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:03,239 Speaker 1: drink right into his old fashion though, Like, is that 409 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: a thing? You know? Let let's clarify something here. I 410 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: don't drink wine, okay. I grew up in Ohio, in Montana. 411 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: I eat velveta, I eat doritos and cheeseburgers. I don't 412 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: sif on red wine, So of course I ordered my 413 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: own drink the tequila shots. Who were to try to 414 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: make everybody have fun, have more fun, probably because you 415 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: guys were bringing us down. I mean, let me also 416 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: say this in defense of bucking myself. I can't say 417 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: who it was, but we're trying to recruit someone who 418 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: was in sports media to come work at OutKick, and 419 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: that was the order that she placed. So she ordered 420 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: the red wine. Buck and I, being gentleman, are like, yeah, 421 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: well you like red wine. But we were surprising was 422 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: that as Jesse ordered his old fashion I saw a 423 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: pinky ring on his finger. It was amazing, all right. 424 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: So we're all sitting there enjoying our red wine. For Jesse, 425 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: who has his own old fashioned and then he just 426 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: out of nowhere, Jesse is like, we gotta get four 427 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: shots of the most expensive tequila, which Bob Pittman, who 428 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,479 Speaker 1: owns the entire company, has founded, the Casa Dragones. And 429 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: Buck says to you, Jesse, as I recall, that's gonna 430 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: be really expensive. I think, I said, Jesse, you're ordering 431 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: a mortgage payment's worth of tequila. I think that was 432 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: I think that, And Jesse was like, basically like chop, chop, 433 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: I'll take two rounds, my good man. Okay, okay, Now 434 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: now it's my turn to clarify, because you guys are 435 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: missing a very convenient detail of this whole thing. Yes, 436 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: I ordered the tequila shots. Yes. Buck issued a warning 437 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: that it was expensive. Where I come from, shots cost 438 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: two dollars as a special on Friday night. If you 439 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: tell me there's an expensive shot, I think we're talking 440 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: fifteen dollars, right, ten fifteen dollars. Buck did not say 441 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: they were going to be seventy five dollars. A piece 442 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: tells me, hey, Jesse, watch out when you open the fridge. 443 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to assume, oh no, there might be a 444 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: bottle in there that might fall out. If I opened 445 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: the fridge and a Siberian tiger jumps out and attacks me, 446 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: that's not on me. That's on Buck for not disclosing 447 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: the appropriate amount of detail. That's a fair point. You 448 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: surprised Buck that it was seventy five dollars a shot, 449 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: even as a New Yorker, did that seem steep to 450 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: you know? I mean that that place, it's actually where 451 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: I went on my first date with Carrie. Believe it 452 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: or oh, that rooftop has some history, so I am familiar. 453 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: We try to go somewhere next door and then we 454 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: then we we went there, and that is one of 455 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: the more Look, everyone knows and every everyone who lives 456 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: in a city anywhere or even a pretty good sized 457 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 1: town of the country. This is like one of the 458 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: more expensive hotels in the city, and expensive hotels. I mean, 459 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: you know, I remember I was in a fancy hotel 460 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: once in France. I ordered a yogurt and it was 461 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: the equivalent of forty dollars. Like you know, they'll just 462 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: they'll charge you anything of these places. But when you're 463 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: looking at that, you know that shelf of booze where 464 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: everything almost looks like Indiana Jones had to go and 465 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: find it somewhere else around the world, and he was 466 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: being chased by a boulder to get this glass caraph 467 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: or whatever. You mess with that shelf of booze at 468 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: a place like the Peninsula Hotel, and you're gonna pay 469 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: through the Even I, which we've already established, was not 470 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: considered rich enough to even be able to sit at 471 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: a table up there. Even I, when I looked at 472 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: the bill and saw that they were seventy five dollars 473 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: each a shot, was actually Jesse. Jesse, Can I tell 474 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: you something. Clay wanted to go a full pretty woman 475 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: when they brought the bill and be like, big mistake, 476 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: big mistake. Well, now, another another little detail that you 477 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: have not told the Clay and Buck audience is I 478 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: offered to pay. I was even I even did the 479 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: thing where I was reaching into my pocket to pull 480 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 1: out my wallets because I felt bad because I had 481 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: ordered the seventy five dollars shots, and I took advantage 482 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: of that and paid anyway, just so he could come 483 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 1: trash me with you guys on this that could be true. 484 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: I definitely noticed that I had an advantage also at 485 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: that point, like trying to divvy up the bill and 486 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: everything else. I thought there was way more value in 487 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: being able to blame you for ordering the seventy five 488 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: dollars shots than allowing you to play. Plus, I don't 489 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: want to throw Aubrey under under the bus here, but 490 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna do it. You had already confessed that 491 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: you were living on the high life there, because you 492 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: took her shopping at like Sacks Fifth Avenue or something, 493 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: And I figured at that point I didn't need to 494 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: take more money out of your wallet. Well, I didn't 495 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: know what Sacks fifth Avenue was. We walked in. We 496 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: had to get something for her parents as a thank you. Look, 497 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: we don't have to go into the details. Okay, you 498 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: know what, Maybe we should talk about Buck in his quarter, 499 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: his dime sized craft. Oh, how dare you, sir? It's 500 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: a very solid it's a very solid married man pivot right. 501 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: See that you're about to get flattened and you immediately 502 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: attack someone else the cocktail party. Crab cakes are not 503 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: supposed to be the size of basketballs. Listen, Paul Bunyan, 504 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: you got to settle down on this one. There was 505 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: a carving station with red meat. You needed to go 506 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: to that first and foremost cocktail party passed or dirves 507 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: small crab cakes. You just gotta spare a few of 508 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: them at a time and eat them like bond bonds. 509 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: I couldn't spare a few of them at the time. 510 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: The wife was right there, and every time I tried 511 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: to double up, she told me, this is a sophisticated place. 512 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: Yet you can't do things like that anymore. So this 513 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: is not on me. Maybe next time, find some adult 514 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: crabs to make crab cakes. I'm just gonna tell you 515 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: this is an important pro tip for everybody. If you 516 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: ever go to a cocktail party and you're hungry, it 517 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: is essential where you position yourself in the room because 518 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: the food's always coming in from one place and the 519 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: good the good or dirves go very quickly, So you 520 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: gotta find the route of ingress for the crab cakes, 521 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: for the bacon wrap shrim for the chicken satte, and 522 00:27:54,359 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: the peanut sauce, all the above. So Jesse, it is interesting. 523 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: I didn't know there were crab cakes at all. The 524 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: biggest issue, and no pun intended here, that came out 525 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 1: of the out of Bucks engagement party was I'm never 526 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: getting picture taken with you again, I've not been I 527 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: never nobody ever sees a picture of me and says 528 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: positive things, no matter what. I've never been savaged for 529 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: being short in my entire life like I was after 530 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: that photo went out. Well, it's not just honestly, it's 531 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: not my height. There's nothing you can do about that. 532 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: It's my height. And then I've been told that my 533 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 1: face is really symmetrical. Me and Denzel Washington, we have 534 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: symmetrical faces. So it's not just that I'm above you, guys. 535 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm so radiant it kind of blows people away and 536 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: everyone else kind of just fades into the background, so 537 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: it makes you seem small. It's really not your fault. Well, Jesse, 538 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: I really do appreciate you coming up from Houston though 539 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,239 Speaker 1: for the party. Considering when I made the toast and 540 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: the main photo that everybody saw that it's been circulating. 541 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: You're standing in the background and everyone's like, nice toast 542 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: Fronto Baggins, Why were you behind him for the toast? 543 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: Do you know why he was behind me? It was 544 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: like a he was gonna hold up his hand like 545 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: you must be Vis tall for a ride, You must 546 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: be Vi tall to give a toast. No. Once again. 547 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: Once again, I'm made out to be the bad guy. 548 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: I was behind you because we were talking. You and 549 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: me were having a discussion. You turned around, took the 550 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: microphone and started giving a speech. What was I supposed 551 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: to do? Lay down on the floor. That's where I 552 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: happen to be fair, I'm just approaching for everybody. Always 553 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: tell Jesse Durga Photo to take a knee. Okay, I'm 554 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: just telling you otherwise you're not going to be a 555 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: happy camper. All right. Last question for you, Jesse here, 556 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: you've clearly established that you're a gold digger in the 557 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris of the Premiere Radio family. But um, the 558 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: speaking of gold diggers, do you think that Hunter Biden 559 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: is actually gonna get charged or not with any crime. 560 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: I believe he will be charged with a crime and 561 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: it will be held over Joe Biden's head. So you 562 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: will see Joe Biden after the terms up. I would 563 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: guess December, January, maybe February. Joe Biden will resign the presidency, 564 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: claiming some form of illness or something like that, and 565 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: then you'll know for a fact they held the Hunter 566 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: Biden thing up as a way to move Joe out 567 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: because you actually think he'll resign, not just announced that 568 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: he's not going to run for reelection. No, no, no, 569 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: I believe I believe he'll resign because they need time. 570 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: You can't have Joe Biden just say I'm not gonna 571 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: run for reelection. They're gonna the midterms are gonna have 572 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: been done. It's officially presidential campaign season at the time. 573 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: To shovel Papa Joe out the back door. He can 574 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: move on to Delaware and sniff kids, and then they're 575 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: gonna go run Gavin Newsom and maybe Eric Adams and 576 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: you know Kamala is gonna run. There's no way. Dome's 577 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: not gonna run. And they're gonna run reapporal buck gig 578 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: and that it's gonna be the same group of crazy 579 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: as they rail the brand before. Okay, then what do 580 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: you think the odds are of a Kamala and and 581 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: and Mayor Pete combo ticket. What do you think would 582 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: happen if it were Kamala and mayor Pete one? You 583 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: could make the argument easily that presidential ticket sucks more 584 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: than any presidential ticket has ever sucked ever. But they're 585 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: not going to do that. Dome, everyone hates Sir bud 586 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: Gate can't win the black boat. He cannot. That's why 587 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: he Remember he struggled so much in the primary. Last 588 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: he was out drinking forties out of paper bags with blackness. 589 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: I saw that pictures. It's one of the funniest video 590 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: pictures I've ever seen in my life. I think Gavin 591 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: Newsom is the guy as much as I despise him. 592 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: He's look, let's be frank, he's good. Look. He's not 593 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: as good looking as me, but very good looking. He's 594 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: a fundraising juggernaut. He's a darling to the left. I 595 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: think you know why Jesse has so much respect for 596 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: Newsom because he's like over six two. That's the thing. 597 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: Jesse's a highis so Jesse, Jesse Kelly show Everybody six 598 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: to nine PM and syndication of Premier Networks, And Jesse 599 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: would just before you go, what are you going to 600 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: be drinking this weekend? You know what, I'm gonna go 601 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: out and I'm gonna get some wine and i might 602 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: even get some expensive tequila, and I'm gonna sit around 603 00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna drink it and prove you guys, I'm 604 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: not cheap and I'm not that light trapped the tallest 605 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: Thurston how the third I've ever seen? Jesse Kelly everybody 606 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: check out his show, check out his podcast. Jesse, You 607 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: have a great weekend. Big hug for Aubrey ud be 608 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: good boys. Think of the time and money your family 609 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: spent on video cameras back in the day. How much 610 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: did you spend cameras, videotapes, all that space in your 611 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: house to store it? All expensive in its own way. 612 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: Those are a lifetime of memories and can orders cost 613 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: thousands of dollars. Tapes were super expensive. It didn't get 614 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: easy to preserve and make those memories. Well now they're 615 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: all fading because those videotapes were not designed to last 616 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: very long. And that's why Legacy Box exists to preserve 617 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: families recorded moments digitally or safer who to share it family. 618 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: You owe it to yourself and your family to safeguard 619 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: your memories. Don't let your photos continue to fade. Become 620 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: your family's hero and save them before it's too late. 621 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: Buy a Legacy Box today. Visit legacybox dot com slash 622 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: clay to get their greatest offer. That's the legacybox dot 623 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: Com slash clay here are gonna be closing up shop 624 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: here for the Clay and Buck Show, but some important 625 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,959 Speaker 1: notes this weekend on Sunday, actually, we'll drop our election 626 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: deep dive special from every week interviews. I mean this week, 627 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: I can't even remember we had senators on this week. 628 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,719 Speaker 1: We had that call in just earlier today, and if 629 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: you missed it, go to the Clay and Buck podcast 630 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: for it. From a senator, I'm sorry, From Governor Ron 631 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: de Santis. We've had Look, we're having newsmakers on every 632 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: day in this election cycle, which is right now, we're 633 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: feeling good. We are cautiously realistically optimistic about the GOP's 634 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: chances going forward. So we've got all stay focused and 635 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: the people listening to this, especially in those key swing states, 636 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: you gotta get out there. You gotta get your friends 637 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: out there and make sure that when it counts, you 638 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 1: cast your you cast your vote. I'm not even just 639 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: gonna say for the geopete for sanity, and we just 640 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: cast your vote for what is obvious at this point, 641 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: obvious to anybody whose mind is even capable of being 642 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: changed about politics, or who obviously is already along with 643 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: us on team reality here. Um, So that's that's something 644 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: we got going on. We got that going for us Clay, 645 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: which is nice. Everybody should check out the podcast. And 646 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: what have you got to tell everybody? Before we head off? 647 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: I was going to talk about Fat Bear Week, which 648 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: actually CNN is promoting. Now there's a contest for the 649 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: cutest fat grizzly bear that apparently gets hundreds of thousands 650 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: of votes. This was started in Alaska. But I don't know, 651 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: I feel judged as we get into the winter time. Well, 652 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: one of the funniest things Kanye said during the during 653 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: his interview with Tucker Carlson the parts that aired last 654 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: night on Fox News was he actually says I think 655 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: I think you probably agree with because it reminds me 656 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: of the fat Bear story, which is just he was 657 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: fired up that there's this obsession with telling people who 658 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: are wildly overweight that they are body positive. Right, this 659 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: is kind of taken off where it used to be 660 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: if you're overweight, look you want to lose weight because 661 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: it's way healthier. And now this whole body positivity movement. 662 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: Have you noticed like all these health magazines and now 663 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: buck they have like really obese people. What's all about bounce? 664 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: No one's talking about. You know, the thing is that 665 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 1: they take something that has this little grain of truth, 666 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 1: which is, yeah, you don't want to judge. Look, I mean, 667 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get into better shape. A lot of 668 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: people are trying to get into better shape. It's hard 669 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,240 Speaker 1: to go through phases, but there's a range at which 670 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: it's just truly deeply unhealthy. And you're gonna your life 671 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: is gonna end sooner in your life is gonna be 672 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: a lot harder. In the meantime, as a pure health matter, 673 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: it's not good for you. And the fact that the 674 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: left is trying to look men can get pregnant weighing 675 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: a thousand pounds is fine. I mean, there are things 676 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:06,439 Speaker 1: they say that are just not true, including that they 677 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: are actually moderate and that they're Democrats who will hold 678 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 1: Joe Joe Biden accountable. That's just not true. As you 679 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: go into the weekend, we come back, it's gonna be 680 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: four weeks out. If you believe Joe Biden is doing 681 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: a good job, you should vote Democrat. That's the truth. 682 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: If you agree with Buck and Eye that he is 683 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: the worst president probably of our lives, then you need 684 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: to be voting Republican. Who wins in a fight Clay 685 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: thousand pound grizzly Bear, eight hundred pound Siberian Tiger Tiger. 686 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 1: I think the tiger is more mobile, has the ability 687 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: to get to better angles than the grizzly bear. That's right, 688 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 1: Sleet Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.