1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Via Around the NFL podcast, he's working on it's English 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: ox scene. Welcome back to another disition that Around the 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hanss and I'm joined 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: by a room filled the heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: and Greg Rosen's All Up boys. I like the intros 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: where Matt money Smith has to act a little bit, guys, 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: super talented Matt money Smith, who also I don't think 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: it came up during Wednesday's wild dramatic when Greg's toaster, 9 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: when West's toaster, when Bernard's toaster. Uh, it came up 10 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: that it never came up that Matt money Smith was 11 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: the one that delivered those great intros that we listened to. 12 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: So he continues to do great work. Henry Handsome Hank downstairs, 13 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: speaking of Wednesday's show, quote directly when I saw him 14 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: in the office this morning. A lot of character revealing 15 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: moments during Toaster proceed yes, uh, and the episode in general, 16 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: character revealing moments. I'll let you, guys, feel like you're 17 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: taking a shot at Greg for losing. You have to 18 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: ask him what he means by that. Not just you, 19 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: it could be multiple people. I would assume coming from 20 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: Henry that that's a negative jab at probably all of us. 21 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: On some level, I think it was a win win. 22 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: I mean, the postal service and the Jets finally got 23 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,919 Speaker 1: something to cheer about. Bernard a worthy champion. This also 24 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: this result, it's probably the fastest way to end this game. Anyways, 25 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna peter out. Well, it's just so naive Greg 26 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 1: about this, how this game, the legs of this game 27 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: and what it really means. Gotten much feedback today. Thank you, 28 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: thanking Bernard for returning the game to a highest level 29 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: where it belongs. And I would I would say a 30 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: couple of things. A couple of points. Uh, the James 31 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: Buster Douglas, Greg Rostal parallels. They were very true, even 32 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: to the point where you could look at says watching 33 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: this on YouTube before the podcast. Uh, just like Buster 34 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: Douglas had the big upper cut, the knocked out Tyson. 35 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: That's what happened when West got taken down. But then 36 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 1: Buster Douglas when he faced holy Field, he got exposed. 37 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 1: And some of the historic aspects of the NFL went 38 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: through your fingers in that, And that was a little surprising. Well, 39 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 1: I never claimed to be some trivia expert. Let's see 40 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: you do it. I just zero. The reality is West 41 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: is never gonna have a winning record versus me. He's 42 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: gonna have to go to his grave. Oh and one 43 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: big fat loser. Wow, that is true. I mean, you know, 44 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: and take it away. And you know what was waiting 45 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: for me when I left this DUDEO yesterday Money Women, 46 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: the video game I made. They were still throwing themselves 47 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: at me. They remember the title you can't take all 48 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: that away? Douglas Buster Douglas in two. Hey, you know, 49 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: I think he might be under his ground. I don't know, 50 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: maybe confirmed, I don't know. Anyway. So so this is 51 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: the Thursday podcast and we will bring back the Toaster game, 52 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: despite what Greg says. Yeah, please bring it back right 53 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: in the middle of the NFL season. Instead of talking 54 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: about football, we can play trivia games. Hey, I got 55 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: plenty of tweets saying that was their favorite episode of 56 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: the season. I know, I know they didn't. They didn't 57 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: show it with their listenership the last time we had 58 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: to draw on one of the least listen to episodes. 59 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: To him, people likes the ugliness inside you when it 60 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: comes to this game. The character revealing moment again. All right, 61 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: so Thursday's show, I can't believe you dropped the metrics. 62 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: I'm just saying yeah, just because tend people on Twitter 63 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: like it, doesn't mean if I was listening to it, 64 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: if I was a big around the NFL listener, I 65 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: would always just fast forward to we already understand your 66 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: your stand on your undercutting your own podcast right now. 67 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: Well that's why you you liked it. That was the 68 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: whole pride pride man anyway. So this is the big 69 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: Week ten review show. We uh, we're gonna go through 70 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: all the games on Sunday and of course the Monday 71 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: night game. Before we get to that, of course we 72 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: will uh go to the Thursday night game, the big 73 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: an f C North showdown between the Browns and Bengals. 74 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: Chris Westling and Greg Rosenthal will deliver the B team. 75 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: Rosie west take it away, thank you, Dan. B team 76 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: had a good time tonight watching a bad football game. 77 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns just beat down the Cincinnati Bengals. Chris Westling, 78 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: we were surprised what stuck out to you in this game? First, well, 79 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: you have to talk about Andy Dalton. It was it 80 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: might have been the worst quarterback performance I've ever seen. 81 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. That's that seems like hyperbely, But it's 82 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: the worst one I've seen this season. It seems like 83 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,239 Speaker 1: I perbly. I have many favorite stats from these games. 84 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: Perhaps the best is that Johnny Manziel ever left the 85 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: sideline and hit a higher Fantasy points than Andy Dolton. Yeah, 86 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot of good ones. He had the lowest 87 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: quarterback rating two of any quarterback that threw it at 88 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: least thirty passes since so it was historically bad and 89 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: just watching it with your eyes, it was bad because 90 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: early in the game he was missing guys by ten yards, 91 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: I mean balls going way out of bounds, and you think, oh, 92 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: maybe it's the bad weather. But on the other side 93 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: of things, you have Brian Hoyer playing spotless, flawless, some 94 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: darts up the middle. His arm looks very live and 95 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: he was accurate, so you can't really blame it on that. 96 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: And this was a big game for Yer. NFL media 97 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: insider Ian Rappaport reported just a couple of hours before 98 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: the game that this was a referendum game for him 99 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: as far as not only a possible contract extension, but 100 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: holding off Johnny Manziel as well well. He said the 101 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: next three weeks are going to be huge for Hoyer. 102 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: And now they win this game and their six and 103 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: three and their head ahead of the Bengals. This is 104 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: obviously a huge win for the playoff race. And then 105 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: the next two weeks their home for Houston and they 106 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: go to Atlanta. I'm not saying you just give them 107 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: two wins there, but they will be favored in those 108 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: two games. So if that was the three game referendum, 109 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: Hoyer is going to be the guy this year, and 110 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: if they're thinking about giving him a contract offer this season, 111 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I think he'll do well in those two games. 112 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,239 Speaker 1: And he's played well. He's he's a little up and down, 113 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: but this was one of his best games in a 114 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: big spot. Not only is he playing well, but Kyle 115 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: Shanahan out coached Hugh Jackson tonight. He has gotten a 116 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: lot of credit this year, deservedly, but Kyle shana has 117 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: been one of the best offensive coordinators in the league. 118 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: And we've talked about the play action, but he also 119 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: does a very good job of not sticking Hoyer and 120 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: obvious passing situations. That's a that's a good point, and 121 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: a lot of their big plays around like first and 122 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: ten and he gets people open down. I mean, this 123 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: is a team they're leading receiver. Tonight's Miles Austin, a 124 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: guy nobody wanted going into the season, and you know 125 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: he's been okay this series made some big catches for them. 126 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: Gary Barnage is their number two receiver tonight in terms 127 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: of yards. Travis Benjamin is number three, h Taylor Gabriel's 128 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: number three, number four, and like Jim Dre was on 129 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: the field and got a target. So I mean that 130 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: that's your receiver crew with Brian Hoyris Kyle Shannon is 131 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: doing an amazing job and Hoyer is doing an amazing 132 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: job helping to lift these guys up. That they had 133 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: three running backs with double digit rushes and one of 134 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: them had twenty six that's how many times the Browns 135 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: were hid tonight. Oh my gosh, Yet Terence West had 136 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: twenty six runs. You know, he makes more sense as 137 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: a lead back to me than Ben Tate does. I 138 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: wish they would give Isaiah Crowell the ball more, but 139 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: this was the Brown's best performance by far in a month. 140 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: And that's why when you're playing bad teams like the 141 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: Browns were in the last few weeks. You know, you 142 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: just gotta find a way to get a win, because 143 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: you can always turn it around. And this team has 144 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: shown in the defense I think is showing that all 145 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: that talent and Mike Petton's system, now the defense may 146 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: we can carry them down the stretch. You talked about 147 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: the Browns relatively solved schedule coming up. The Bengals are 148 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: the opposite. They fall now to They could be in 149 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: last place by the end of Sunday, and then they'll 150 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: have to go to New Orleans, which the North. The 151 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: Saints haven't lost in what eleven games at home and 152 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: then two more games on the road in a row 153 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: after that. Well, they have two home games the rest 154 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: of the year, and and we have this conversation after 155 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: every big Andy Dalton loss. I mean, whether it was 156 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: Thursday night last year against Miami, or is the playoff 157 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: loss to San Diego or any other playoff game he's 158 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 1: been or Man, the Houston one was brutal. That was one. 159 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: The second one that is first of one, actually was 160 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: the second one. Man, he played so bad, and it 161 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: just I closed up my my article tonight by saying, 162 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: when Dalton's at his best, he's still not going to 163 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: carry your team, but when he's at his worst, you 164 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: have no chance to win. So that that's a terrible 165 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: quarterback situation to have. And everyone calls him a hundred 166 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: million dollar quarterback. They can get out of his contract 167 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: after next year, and I think that's gonna be more 168 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: of a conversation in two thousand and fifteen. Okay, do 169 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: we want to come up with another possibility for the future. 170 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: But they can't really worry about that now. People who 171 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: don't know what that contract really says call him the 172 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: one million dollar quarterback. We call him quarterback purgatory. Man. 173 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: It was embarrassing the throw he had when he ran 174 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: past the line of scrimmage. And there were so many 175 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: bad moments, so many dropped interceptions, overthrows, a J. Green 176 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: throwing his hands up in frustration. And it wasn't just Dalton. 177 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: This Bengals defense lacks of backbone right now. They've given 178 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: up a hundred fifty seven yards on the ground average 179 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: over the past seven weeks. Well, they're missing they're missing talent, 180 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: but you know the Browns are were missing a lot 181 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: of talent too, and they played much better. Let's stop 182 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: talking about the Bengals let's talk about the happiest guy 183 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: on the Around the League podcast. We have Mark Sessler 184 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: on the phone celebrating the biggest Browns victory since I 185 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: don't know there is first place for the first time 186 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: since nine Sessler, what is it? Is this the biggest 187 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: Browns victory since they've moved back to Cleveland? You know, 188 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: I think it is because you know that you mentioned 189 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: and at that time in my life, I was living 190 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. Floating around going to college and 191 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: belonged to some random Brown's backers club at the time, 192 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: and that season caught me off guard. They've done nothing since, 193 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: and I you know, I I watched this game tonight 194 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: with Dan hanss in the handsas household, and uh, you know, 195 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: we watched this thing and we said, you know, can 196 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: they can they pull this out? And they got off 197 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: to a nice start, and I was most shocked, to 198 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: be honest with you, by the ineffecting, the ineffective play 199 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 1: of Andy Dalton and the fact that he just could 200 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: do nothing against Cleveland's defense. And it was to the 201 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: point where I'm like, I wasn't willing to even credit 202 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: Cleveland's defense that Andy Dalton just seems unable to produce 203 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 1: a play. It was sort of stunning. But their defense 204 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: has gotten better as the season gotten along, and you'd 205 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: like to thank all that talent Desmond, Brian Carlos, Dansby Whittner. 206 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: They've got players here. Jabal seared, you're making the leap guy? 207 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: Wait are you are you still at hands this house 208 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: or did you go to a bar afterwards? No? No, 209 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: we we drove out where you know at this point, 210 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: Dan drove down a country street. We pulled off so 211 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: we could do this part of the podcast right here 212 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: and uh, you know we're nowhere next you know, I 213 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: I I look at this. It has been an interesting 214 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: win to the Browns, but it's it's nothing. It's alien 215 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: to any Cleveland fans. Well, they haven't seen this in 216 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 1: twenty years, so I don't'm not sword to make of this. 217 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: Speaking of aliens, you're your here's your two tweets that 218 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: that you had during the game, Brown's dropping a mega 219 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: hammer from outer space on Dalton and the Bengals. And 220 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: then after the game, Brown spaceship takes off into the 221 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: distance skies destination to be determined. De'stinnation playoffs Quintessential System 222 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: tweets about that, but I just I would be honest. 223 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, Cincinnati, what's the deal. They're five 224 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: two and one and then they drop an egg like 225 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: this on on this in this game. I'm just not sure. 226 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: I don't think they're good. They've gotten They've gotten crushed 227 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: by two other contenders in the last four weeks, not 228 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: just losses, but not even competitive games whatsoever. I mean, 229 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: I know Dalton was really bad, but the fact that 230 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: they almost tripled their total yards, I mean, they were 231 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: just the better team. So enjoy it. Mark, I don't 232 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: want to take too much of your time. Get back 233 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: on the on the road and you know, go celebrate, enjoy. Yeah, 234 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: Dan and I are actually I just to let you know, Greg, 235 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: we're driving straight into the heart of Mexico in the 236 00:12:53,679 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: middle of December. All right, we will. We will be 237 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: moving Connor Or and Kevin Patra to Los Angeles, UH 238 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: to be in the studio with us for the next 239 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: show and the rest of the season. I guess that's 240 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: all we got here for this game. Let's send it back. 241 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: Let's send it back to you, Mark and Dan and 242 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: the rest of the crew. Alright, So that was Thursday, 243 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: night Mark. I hope whatever just happened makes you happy, 244 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: but we have no way to know. We don't know. 245 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: So we move on to Sunday now, and why don't 246 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: we start with, as as we always do each week, 247 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: the games that really get us excited, and we'll start 248 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: with a big NFC showdown between two playoff hopefuls in 249 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: New Orleans at the super Dome. The Saints, who got 250 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: some swagger back in their last game against the Packers, 251 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: now face the San Francisco forty Niners. A forty Niners 252 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: team that through half of the season is a five 253 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: hundred team of four and four team. Their their schedule 254 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: is not easy in the back end. They need to 255 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: start winning, but this is gonna be a tough assignment 256 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: to go into uh super Dome and steal a win. 257 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: How do we see it? We all took the forty Niners, 258 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: I mean the Saints rather. I'm a little surprised that 259 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: no one wanted to take a chance on the forty Niners. 260 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: Needn't win, But I guess we all kind of see 261 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: the Saints as that they've turned their season around. I 262 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: see that, and I have a lot of questions about 263 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: the forty Niners. We know they don't have an identity 264 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: right now, they've lost it. There are used to being 265 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: a physical team. Their offensive line does much better when 266 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: they're being physical and run blocking as opposed to pass blocking. 267 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: What's then, why can't they run the ball? Everyone says that, Okay, 268 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta have an our identity. We gotta 269 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: give the Frank core of the ball more. But he's 270 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: not running very well. He had two point, You know, 271 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Is there an inconvenient truth 272 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: about the inconvenient truth right now that he might be 273 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: finally in decline? I get I think it's maybe more 274 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: about the offensive line. I don't know, but my point 275 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: is everyone says, oh, you gotta run the ball more. Well, 276 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: you gotta get more than three yards per carry, and 277 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: they haven't done that for the last three weeks. My 278 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: point was more that they got away from that to 279 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: begin the year, and that's something you have to work 280 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: on in training camp. You have to be a physical 281 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: team if you're gonna run the ball. They've gotten a 282 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: little soft. Other questions are Michael Crabtree and Vernon Davis 283 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: even close to they aren't doing anything? Why isn't Stevie 284 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: Johnson playing more. What's going on with Colin Kapert. I 285 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: mean this, the whole team looks lost, and let's not 286 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: bury the lead because the best running back in this 287 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: game at this point right now looks to be your boy, 288 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: my boy. Mark Ingram has been thank you t D. 289 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: I mean he's he's been. I think that's the Saints 290 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: fell off a cliff a little bit when they lost 291 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: him and they didn't have that guy. I think that 292 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: they can lean on when he came back. What we 293 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: saw against the Panthers, what we've seen more of late 294 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: is an offense that's starting to click there at home. 295 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: That's why I took him. I mean, if they are 296 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: who they are when they're when they're on fire, I'm 297 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: never going to pick against him at home. I think 298 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: the changes in their defense have been more pronounced that 299 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: they've gone from a house on fire to okay, and 300 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: they've done it by kind of simplifying things and just 301 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: letting them go out play not as many crazy looks. 302 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: They have a pretty good looking secondary overall. I mean 303 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: this forty Niners offense Kaepernick last week, like, can they 304 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: even victimize a struggling defense right now? I don't know, 305 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: because I mean they're spreading things out. Kaepernick is not 306 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: very aware of the blitz uh. Last week he struggled 307 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: to sort of have awareness. Went to throw one. Not 308 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: to throw sacks of Kaepernick this season, and so there's 309 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: an issue whether it's past protection or him recognizing blisses 310 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: or getting the ball out quick enough. The passing game 311 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: is out of whack because the quarterback keeps going down 312 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: in the backfield. I mean, they had so much luck 313 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: along their offensive line in terms of they were injury 314 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: free for quite a while for years, and they were 315 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: able to dominate game after game, and that's where we 316 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: it's embedded in our mind of this tough team. But 317 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: their injury riddled right now. Well, they their tackles were 318 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: the ones who struggled, and they were healthy enough last week. 319 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: I mean, the problem is they were kind of left 320 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: on an island because he got four wide receivers. You've 321 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: got no one in helping the tackles, and they got 322 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: exposed against Lewis. I just wonder if Rob Ryan maybe 323 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: sees that and starts dialing up some more blitz is 324 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: this week. And let's let's not get too ahead of ourselves. 325 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: With the Saints either this the Niners had plenty of 326 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: problems with the Saints are also a five hundred team. 327 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: We don't know if if they're back to themselves and 328 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: they're about to go on a good run, they could 329 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: just as easily falter again as they have throughout the 330 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: first half of the season. Yeah, I think we feel 331 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: confident that they've turned a corner and they're they've won 332 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: eleven in a row at home, so I think common 333 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: sense says they're the favorites in this game. I thought 334 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: it was interesting Steve Young said this week that the 335 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: forty Niners are a broke team, and he talked about 336 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: their body language coming off the field, their communication with 337 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: each other, the fact that Greg Roman is kind of 338 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: one of the guys, said Mark and I and Greg 339 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: and probably Dan as well thought two years ago was 340 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: one of the most brilliant offensive minds in the game 341 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: has lost as Mojo. Well, part of it's just on Kaepernick, though, 342 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: I mean, they were missing routine plays last week. Everyone 343 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: just once point it was only protection, but there were 344 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: some plays he was protected that missed pretty routine throws. 345 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: And they don't really have anything on offense that they 346 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: can really rely on. I mean, the reality is New 347 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: Orleans could lose this game, and in that division, I 348 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't panic over that. But if if San Francisco falls 349 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: to four and five behind Arizona, if they ever one, 350 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: they've got a long way to climb out and not 351 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: a lot of time left. Where are we at on 352 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 1: this team tuning out its head coach? I mean, I 353 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: think if they lose this week, it's gonna be as 354 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: big a test as you could have in terms of 355 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: keeping a team together, because it's gonna be as negative 356 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: as possible in San Francisco. Our next step is our 357 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: next stop is Philadelphia, where the Carolina Panthers will face 358 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: an Eagles team that has Mark Sanchez behind center. That 359 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: will be the case for the foreseeable future. I would 360 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: say if we did a breakdown of around the NFL 361 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: post this week, Mark Sanchez would be here at the top. 362 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: He's been a major storyline with everyone talking about what 363 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: what will we see from Sanchez now that he's behind 364 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: Uh what Greg you have referred to consistently on this 365 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: program as a quarterback proof offense. We get a good 366 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: look at it now. He's gonna play four quarters against 367 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: the Panthers team that obviously he's not nearly as good 368 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: as they were last year. What do we expect from Sanchez? 369 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: Let's start there. Do you think he's going to be 370 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: a quarterback that's playing at at the same or a 371 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: higher level than Nick Foles. I don't think they'll change 372 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: their offense at all. I think they're gonna do exactly 373 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: the same. We saw. They ran Chris Polk a little 374 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: bit more last week with some power runs and he 375 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: played great. So you might see some more runs. But 376 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: as far as the plays they're calling in the passing game, 377 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be the exact same. The running 378 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: games improved, I mean, that's been a big factor for 379 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: them the last three weeks. And the beautiful thing here 380 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: is the schedule, the matchup, because the Panthers defense is 381 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: now a defense, not that you just don't fear, but 382 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: that's a big time plus matchup. You look at the 383 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 1: Panthers defense, the run defense, and their path even do 384 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: you think this is a team we can score a 385 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: lot of points on. I thought in the preseason Sanchez 386 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: he already began to show some chemistry with Zach Ertz 387 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 1: and a couple other weapons on that offense, and it 388 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: is is an interesting test for him. I think the 389 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: longest streak of uninterrupted positive posts about Sanchez this week, 390 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: there seems to be for four years and years. There's 391 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: a lot of hope around the sense that maybe he 392 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: can tune out and tone down some of the you know, 393 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: he was a turnover machine towards the end of New York. 394 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: That's the issue, right He talked about that a little 395 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: bit on Wednesday, show that we don't want to forget 396 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: what Sanchez had become in New York, but it's alwayst 397 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: It might be an apples and argues thing now that 398 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: he's in this offense with with Chip Kelly, Jeremy Macklin 399 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: praised Sanchez as a guy that could be uh what 400 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: was his exact word. I said, the sky is the limit. 401 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: Guys the limit, chip Kelly said, I mean, that's a 402 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: hell of a quarterback. So there's a lot of confidence 403 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: in the building. I guess that's not too different from 404 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: any team is always very up on whoever the starter 405 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: is when they're fresh to the job. But this Tame 406 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: believes that Sanchez can lead them. There's one advantage he has. 407 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: One of his weaknesses with with the Jets was he 408 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: wasn't very good at reading defenses. I mean, let's be honest. 409 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: In in the Eagle system, you don't have to do 410 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: much of that. The reads are therefore already made and 411 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 1: you're always playing fast. And the thing that stuck out 412 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: to me what Sante said this week was I always 413 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: thought I was at my best in New York when 414 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: we're in the hurry up in the two minutes. And 415 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: I think you can attest to that. Dan as a 416 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: Jets fan, a lot of his best moments, some of 417 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: the comebacks when I can I can think of a 418 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: comeback against Miami that he had in the regular season. Uh, 419 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: in the Meadowlands, seemed to be in the hurry up 420 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: when when he's just moving fast and that's all you're 421 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 1: doing in Philadelphia. I mean, also, you know, I don't 422 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: want to go back on the Brian shot and everything 423 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: over and over, but really, when you're a quarterback, when 424 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: you're in Ship Kelly's offense, he's going to get people open. 425 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: With the route concepts they use. It's gonna be different 426 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: than what he dealt with in New York. And you 427 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: got better weapons around you. We all picked the Eagles 428 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: to win this game. And I'm curious because we should 429 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: not ever turn our backs fully on a former team 430 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: of a T like the Panthers, where I'm just I'm curious. 431 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: Put on your Dave Gettleman hats and get you Boston 432 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: accent all fired up, and let me know. How do 433 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: you fix the Panthers going next season? What is wrong 434 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: with next season? Well, you're gonna have to get a 435 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: blue goose pass rusher. I mean, they got seven games 436 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: left this season and out of first. If we're so 437 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: smart and we all picked the Eagles, they'll be three 438 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: six and one after this week. We're not smart though. 439 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: All right, Greg, tell me why the Panthers are a 440 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: playoffs No, I'm not saying it, but just back off 441 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: and let Greg explain it. I'm saying, look, look at 442 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: they can't worry about next season at this point. They're 443 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: right in the mix about everything. Everything. You understood what 444 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: I was asking. On the same podcast we said at 445 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: one point, how can the rest of the NFC South 446 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: catch up to the two No Panthers? Things changed? Dan 447 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: to answer to attempt to answer your question quickly. I 448 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: think the one thing they'll start to have some money. 449 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: They haven't had any money, and they haven't been able 450 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: to actually apply you know, free agency to the weaknesses. 451 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: They've had to get let players go when that shift happens. 452 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: I think it's smart they've kept Gettleman around. Not only 453 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: have they not had money, they've paid Greg Hardy six 454 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: million dollars not to play for them so far this year. 455 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: They'll pay him loss hurt team million overall by the 456 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: end of the year not to play this and they'll 457 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: play Jonathan Stewart D'Angelo Williams as the most overpaid running 458 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: back field in the league for like the third straight year. 459 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: I don't know if either one of them is going 460 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: to be back there. Well, let's see if Cam Newton 461 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: can get off the schneide. I think he's had under 462 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: total over the last three games, which is the only 463 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: streak in his career he's under Alright, moving on, I 464 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: got a question for you guys, Sir Mark brought the 465 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: silver route concepts. What's your favorite rock concept? One by one, 466 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,959 Speaker 1: let's go first. We don't have favorite route concept. We're 467 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: not going to be pretend to be smarter than the 468 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: one that gets the player open. Divide anyone, give me 469 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: a break? What are you trying to do? Is this 470 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: is this the movie podcast Google? By the way, right 471 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: now to be naming these You don't think I know 472 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: rock concept? No, I don't think. Maybe you do, but 473 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: I even know. We're not going to pretend a Let's 474 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: move on, alright. You know TV show up great, great showing, 475 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: and Wednesday's podcast showed up ten minutes later for this 476 00:23:54,400 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: podcast and now drops this bomb on us concept out concepts, 477 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: vaguely disgraceful, trigger pull on your party. Alright, Moving on 478 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins, who who really have everyone excited right now? 479 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: They're playing extremely well. They're five and three. Ryan Tannehill 480 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: is playing like uh the guy that a lot of 481 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: people thought he could be right now? And now they 482 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: go to Detroit. This will be a big test against 483 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: the Lions. First off, I think we have a situation 484 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: here and I don't know if you were listeners of 485 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: the show whenever all of us pick one team and 486 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: one man is on an island and he picks another 487 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: here another team. You know what we call that. You 488 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: guys should know by now. Pick it's a hero pick, 489 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: so defend your hero myself. West Mark All picked the Lions. 490 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal riding hard with the Dolphins and your hero. 491 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: I was shocked no one else picked the Dolphins. They're 492 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: coming off a thirty seven nothing beat down of the 493 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: team of a t L San Diego Chargers, one of 494 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: the most impressive performances of the year. The last time 495 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: they went on the road in the NFC North, they 496 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: trounced the Bears. I think it's one of the best 497 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: defenses in the league. I think this is a match 498 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: above the two best defense in the league. And I 499 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: would definitely take Tannehill and the Dolphins offense over Stafford 500 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: and the Lions offense. I think the scheme is better 501 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: in Miami. It's kind of does the work for Tannehill. 502 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: They're starting to look like the Eagles, and I think 503 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: Tannehill has been more consistent over the last month than 504 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: Stafford has been. I know that the reason I went 505 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: with Detroit was because of not their offense but their defense. Sure, 506 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: but they're going up against the defense. I think that's 507 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: just as good. Cameron Wake Olivia Verne. I mean, they've 508 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: got so many players that can make plays. The way 509 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: you were talking in the newsroom, the first place Lions 510 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: or a Tomato Cam No you were acting like the 511 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: Dolphins were clearly the better team, and they're really not. 512 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: The Lions have a better defense by all mestrics, metrics 513 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: and statistic and once Calvin Johnson gets in the offense, 514 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: that changes everything. Yeah, I think I don't think the 515 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: Dolphins have a better offense than the lines do. With 516 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson and Reggie Bush. We haven't seen a lot 517 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: of it this year, but the Lions offense isn't good. 518 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: And well, you're right right, we have, but even the 519 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: little that we saw, the level that they fell off 520 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: without Calvin Johnson Reggie Bush has me concerned that they're 521 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: going to struggle against a really good defense even with 522 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson and Reggie Bush. Whereas I totally disagree about 523 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: the two offenses. We've seen what Laser's offense is doing, 524 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: it's creating plays for you said. You said Tannehill is 525 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: finally playing like like a lot of people expect it, 526 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 1: and I agree, but I think it's mostly just everyone 527 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 1: around him is making plays for him. And uh, you gentlemen, 528 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: and I refer to Mark Cecil and Chris Wesling. You 529 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: guys do not like indoor football, do you? Yet you 530 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: went with the home team. Now, let me just I'm 531 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: looking at my two thousand fourteen season Week ten research 532 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: notes by the NFL Network Team West. I know you 533 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: enjoy this. Why don't you shoehorn something in here? Here 534 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: we go. Ryan Tatnehill is oh and four and games 535 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: played indoors with three touchdowns, eight interceptions, and a passerrating 536 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: of sixty nine point six. Could not find a more 537 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: meaningless right, what is that kind of matter? Bang? Well, 538 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: just give the wind to the lines in well, it means, 539 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: it means a little bit. It so if you take 540 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: enough against the wall, things happen. Sometimes they I'm a 541 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: friend of data. Okay, you guys go with your hunches 542 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: and your gut ins. I almost went with Greg on 543 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: this because the offense has there has been a departure 544 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: over the past couple of weeks. And maybe you know, 545 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: we saw this with the Chiefs last season, where it 546 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: took more than half a season to get the offense cooking. 547 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: And in Miami's you know not, that's not been the 548 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: easiest scheme to learn, it doesn't seem. And you're dealing 549 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: with a quarterback that has been undisciplined for most of 550 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: his career. If that's starting to change my Emmy's you know, 551 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: recent streak here is not a mirage. However, home team, 552 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: whether it's in a dome or not. I think Chris 553 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: and I have come away with the wind, and it's 554 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: gonna be sad to see Greg who thinks this is 555 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: a hero pick slip one notch further down in our contest. Yes, 556 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: Jarvis is gonna rankle you all. It's gonna hurt West's 557 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 1: soul because his favorite player in the NFL, Jarvis Landry, 558 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: is gonna be lightening it up for the Dolphin. Is. 559 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: He's a lot of fun to watch. I mean, that's 560 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: what I mean. When people are making place for him 561 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 1: the offensive lines making place for Tannehill Landry is Wallaces 562 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: have to put another wing on that stable of lace. 563 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: You know why. It's a lot of people You stats 564 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: the way a monkey uses a ball. You hold it 565 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: in your hand and gaze upon it, but you have 566 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: no idea how to use it. You were saying that 567 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: I didn't pull out a stat that will drop. That 568 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: was an unmitigated talking about character and feeling. It was 569 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: a little labor too, so to do a little come 570 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: better next time. West. Now, let me just let me 571 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: just say this. We gotta move on to another game. 572 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: I'm just you know, I know there's a little tension 573 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: in the room now because I brought up my stats 574 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: manual as you as you should. Yeah, and there's there's 575 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: data in here, not even your stats. You only borrow 576 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: it for the show. And by the way, uh, that's 577 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: not important at all, you said, Mirage, it's mra g 578 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: Oh did I say that? You know I've been saying 579 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: that wrong for my entire life. Moving moving forward, the 580 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: Tennessee Tyitoons are heading to Baltimore to face the Ravens. 581 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: The Ravens who two weeks ago we're in first place 582 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: in the f C North. Two losses later, there in 583 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: last place in the a f C North. So that 584 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: tells you what's going on on that division. And now 585 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: they face the Titans and Zach Mettenberger and West. I 586 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: can't remember if we got into Mettenberger, but I'm sure 587 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: you studied some tape of the young man, the well coy. 588 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: If the young man, now, were you impressed it all 589 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: by his outing in his first start? I don't know 590 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: who cares about anything learned, right, figured Greg and I 591 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: both studied some Za Mettenberger. I believe we reached the 592 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: same conclusion that he's not ready and way too many 593 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: passes were off the mark by ten or fifteen yards. 594 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: I don't I don't like this move, and I think 595 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: Jake Lockers should be their quarterback. No wait, I thought 596 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: we did agree that it was at least a move 597 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: towards an intriguing option before it happened, that we loved 598 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,479 Speaker 1: before it happened. So, I mean, I don't know what 599 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: we were expecting from Mettenburger, but yes, it wasn't a 600 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: good performance, But then what we pulled a curtain after 601 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: one game? He's a really I'd like to see more 602 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: than one game before I come to that conclusion. But 603 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: it was a really, when's the last time you saw 604 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: a sixth round rookie displaced a veteran in his rookie season. Yeah, 605 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: but except that we were that we liked the move 606 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: for Tennessee because they were so listless on offense, and 607 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: that we didn't going back to have an answer for you, though, 608 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: when's the last time how about a seventh round rookie 609 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick lighted up for the Rams back and whenever 610 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: that was, I think he got inserted to line it 611 00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: because they didn't have anything. West was trying to real 612 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: us all in with the Tom Brady bomb. But no, 613 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: that was his second year with New England. As a 614 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: sixth round there, No, I was just saying, there isn't one. 615 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: It's a bad idea to play a sixth round rookie. 616 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: He's not ready, he's not developed. And not only are 617 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: you hurting his developed how are you how are you 618 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: going to judge Kendall Wright, Justin Hunter and Bishop Sanky 619 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: when your quarterback can't move the offense. Mark is very 620 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: upset with this line of reason. He know, I just 621 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: thought that we had a conversation saying that this was 622 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: the right move for the tempt I I thought it 623 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,479 Speaker 1: was a great move to Poul Charlie Whitehurst. But if 624 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: Jake Locker is healthy, I don't know why you wouldn't play. 625 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: We We joke a lot about the the Titoons on 626 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: this podcast. I'm not familiar with their work, their their 627 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: fans probably have stopped listing, but I want to say 628 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: one positive thing about the Titans from our guy, DJ 629 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah moved the Sticks podcast great podcast, and even 630 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: if Dan's not a fan, he said, watch Taylor Luan 631 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: at left tackle, that he thinks that they have got 632 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: a serious keeper in his first start, that he really 633 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: wowed d Javid. This is going to be terrific. You 634 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: want to get excited saying they have a good tear 635 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: at that tackle, and you get excited. They need some 636 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: stars on this team. Now, I hear you. I'm saying, 637 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: but that looks like a good pick. I wouldn't have 638 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: known that. And then that's obviously a hugely important part 639 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: of any team. But if there's a message that could 640 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: be said to the decision makers in this in this franchise, 641 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: do something something. Even their own beat writers have tweeted 642 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: in recent weeks that there is an influx of kind 643 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: of milk toast personalities in that locker room. Jim is 644 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: actually one of them that isn't you know, Yeah, just 645 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: get they need to make a change. Don't do it 646 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: the way the Raiders did it, where you just get 647 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,719 Speaker 1: some big names that are over the hill, but you know, 648 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: identify electric guys in the draft and just try to 649 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: spice things up. We should mention, uh, the Ravens lost 650 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: their top cornerback Jimmy Smith for the season. We learned today, 651 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: which look, it's not gonna be a problem for them 652 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: on on Sunday when Zach Mettenberger is throwing the ball 653 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: fifteen yards for Kendall Wright's head. That's a problem for 654 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: them this season. That that's seriously dense. I think their 655 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: chances of making a long run. There are I believe 656 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: six teams in the a f C with five wins 657 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: right now. The Kansas City Chiefs and Buffalo Bills are 658 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: two of them, and they will face off in Arch 659 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: Orchard Park on Sunday. Uh. This is a to me, 660 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: a coin flip game. I think, how do we pick 661 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: this game? Dan and me? And you took the Chiefs? Yeah, 662 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: everyone else and I took the Chiefs. The rest of 663 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: the field took the Bills. Greg, why don't you start 664 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: us off here? What are you expecting to see in 665 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: this game? It should be a great game. I'm excited. 666 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: I like it so much I'm gonna assign it to 667 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: myself on Sunday. Uh. It's kind of it's kind of 668 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: a matchup of whether the Chiefs can get rid of 669 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: the ball fast enough before that Bill's defensive line gets 670 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: to them, whether they can still keep moving the ball 671 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: enough and putting the sleeper hole on teams with that offense, 672 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: even though they never go deep down the field. Look 673 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: at you playing keep away from us with this riveting 674 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: Kyle Orton, Alex Smith. You're saying you don't want this. No, 675 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: I don't want You've got uh Tyson's Ravens. I don't 676 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: want that especially, I especially don't want this one. If 677 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: if Sammy Watkins doesn't play, and I would probably change 678 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: my pick because I think he's that good. I think 679 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: that's fair. I mean, I think that that I may 680 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: do the same thing now. I like, I like my 681 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: Chiefs pick. I'm feeling good about this one, regardless of Sammy. 682 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: You guys stay over. We're independent individuals. We will do 683 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 1: as we need to do. That tells you a lot 684 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: about Sammy watkins progression as a rookie that we'd already 685 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: be willing to switch picks based on him not showing 686 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: up in games. Well, it's not going to be the 687 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: running game. Yeah, who else do they have in their 688 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: skill position players? Second leading receivers? But that way, he's 689 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: on pace for about six hundred yards receiving and then 690 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: Scott Chandler, So there's not a lot of on the 691 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: on the list there on the Anthony Dixon forty four 692 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: yards two carries and weko how about the I don't know, 693 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: I feel like the Kyle Orton happy story. I needs 694 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: to end at some point. Yeah, I reality to feel 695 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: I feel you on that one. The other one? Uh 696 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: we you know, Travis Kelsey has become a darling this 697 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: season for people that love football. How about get the 698 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: ball to him a little bit more burn in my stable? Hey, 699 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: football head, what do you do for people that love 700 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: football those who are ambivalent? Well, there are people who 701 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: love football and then there are football heads. As I've 702 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: discussed this podcast before, so uh you know what, Mark, congratulations, 703 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: You've also been drafted into the football Heads with West 704 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: and Greg explained explained to the audience. Just you know, 705 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: football fans, why Travis Kelsey is so special? They should 706 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: throw a little spot route for him? Yeah? What was TD? 707 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: Who else is back? There? Can someone take over you today? 708 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: Go back to watching videos on YouTube? How didn't you 709 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,439 Speaker 1: think the route tree thing was gonna go? I still 710 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:58,879 Speaker 1: don't remember. Was that why you were late? Wanted to ask. 711 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: It's not calling it out. We could come up with 712 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,720 Speaker 1: some something, But why why should we pretend we're smarter 713 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 1: than we are? He had a favorite like round concept. 714 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: That's all it is. I want to party with you. 715 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: We keep it real and pretend. There's a lot of pretending. 716 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: And you want to know how I know route names. 717 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: I don't know the concepts. We want to know how 718 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: I know the names? Yeah, yeah, I have never played. 719 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 1: I like it when everyone goes deep but then they 720 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: dump it off to the running back. You could quarterback 721 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: to the teams. Where were we good? Yes? Why is 722 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 1: he a potentially special player? He's like many Gronk He's 723 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: not quite as physical, but he has that kind of 724 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: after the catch ability. He's about six four or six five, 725 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: and he's one of the fastest tight ends in the league, 726 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: really good after the catch. It's a huge game in 727 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,760 Speaker 1: the a f C playoff race because I just feel 728 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: like if either one of these teams wants to be 729 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: that wild card game wild card team. I feel like 730 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 1: this Sunday's going a kind of it's a big separation 731 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: type of game. Do we want to see the Chiefs 732 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: in the playoffs? No? Absolutely not. I like the Chiefs. Wait, 733 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: why wouldn't we remember the playoff game? They I'm just asking. 734 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: I'm not saying no, I'm saying that's an exciting team. 735 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 1: I don't expect that same result to happen just because 736 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,399 Speaker 1: they would be back there. I like this team because 737 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: I feel like they're maxing out. They have Jamal Charles, 738 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: who's fun to watch. They've got my guy, Josh Wood. 739 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: However you say they, oh yeah, you can't be a 740 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: guy if you can't pronounce his name. You do love 741 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: death by a thousand, cut, paper cuts, offenses, you love 742 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, you love Alex Smith. These are your kind 743 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: of offenses. Bore you to death. That's that's a fair point, 744 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: but it's not true. But it's a fair point. But 745 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: I don't know. There's something about we all. I like 746 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 1: teams that prove you wrong, and we all thought they 747 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 1: were going to be a three to six win team 748 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 1: with a terrible offensive line, and they're they're really well coached. 749 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: So I like them. By the way, that was the rare, 750 00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: untrue fair point. Well, what I meant was he that 751 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: wasn't made a good point. Those are my favorite teams, 752 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: But he's sentent of inconsistency in my logic. Here, let's 753 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 1: talk about the London game. We have so many dedicated 754 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 1: listeners across the pond. A London town that was not 755 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: well done unless it was a little bit better. Barrel 756 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 1: forward in London, Oh, man in London, Manchester anything? All right, 757 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: Here we go the Dallas Cowboys. They are in London 758 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: to face the Jacksonville Jaguars. Who I think the Jacksonville 759 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: Jaguars play seven games every year in London. Now I'm 760 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: convinced of it. Every week it seems they're there. Uh, 761 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: this is a game. What doesn't it feel like they 762 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 1: I mean they are there every year. Yes, they got 763 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: a perfectly nice stadium with a pool in in Florida 764 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: going back next year too. They announced that. Uh I 765 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,320 Speaker 1: wonder if they have more fans from all these doesn't 766 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: matter anyway. So the Dallas Cowboys. The big storyline, of 767 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 1: course is Tony Romo and whether he'll play or not. Uh, 768 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: there's been I've seen some writings in some places like 769 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: it would be irresponsible to play Tony whatever. If he's 770 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: ready to play, he should play. If not, he shouldn't. Although, 771 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 1: to be to be fair, the Cowboys got to win 772 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: this game because if they lose this game and they 773 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: go into their bye week on a three game losing 774 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: streak and they got a bit of a tricky road 775 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: schedule coming up, then look out, we could be staring 776 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 1: at against all odds after six and one, eight and eight, 777 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: It could happen. They need to take care of business 778 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: against the team that they're better in better than. We 779 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: should stop consulting medical personnel on these decisions, and just 780 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 1: as sports writers, when players are physically ready to play, 781 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,959 Speaker 1: it's just gross. It's like, come on, don't just whatever. Yeah, 782 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: just well, because clearly we would have a better vantage 783 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: point to make these sort of medical decisions than the 784 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: people watching the who have decades of training to make 785 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: that decision. I know, people, it's it's an issue. People 786 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: don't trust Jerry Jones, especially after he put Romo back 787 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: into that game. But they're not gonna put Romo on 788 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: the field if he if he can't move. I practice 789 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: this week. They proved it. So I don't think that 790 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 1: we need to question the Dallas on this one. I mean, 791 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a lock that they win this 792 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 1: game even with Romo. I don't know. I don't at all. 793 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: I think that I think the Cowboys defense now they 794 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's Crawford gonna be available for 795 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: this game. I don't know. I don't think he's gonna 796 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: be available. They lost to rant I just think it's 797 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 1: it's not a very good defense. And I think the 798 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: Jaguars defensive line especially has played really well the last 799 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: five weeks, and they could give Dallas some problems. And 800 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,280 Speaker 1: Dallas last two games, on their two game losing streak, 801 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: ran the ball times in both those games, which is 802 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: the second lowest all year. They got away from what 803 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: they did well, which was run at thirty five times, 804 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: and part of it he had weedon in there, and 805 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 1: it completely removes the threat of the passing game, right, 806 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: and it just slows down drives. I mean, you get 807 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: you get those a lot those runs by having long drives. 808 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: And they just didn't have the ball nearly as much 809 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 1: last week. Wes You's you were not certain about the 810 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: Cowboys in this game, you took the Jaguars and you 811 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: went basically chalk on your picks nine games out. You 812 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: gotta make a move. Come on, you should take the Jacks, 813 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: get behind them. I took the Cowboys, right. I I'm 814 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,840 Speaker 1: a little worried about Bortle still, even if he had 815 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: his highest passer rating of the year. I thought it 816 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: was very misleading. He had basically one good touchdown drive 817 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: and both of his touchdowns could have been intercepted. I mean, 818 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 1: it's not like he's making these great plays. The last 819 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 1: touchdown he threw into like double coverage in the end zone, 820 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: and it was because they got the ball in the 821 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 1: tanyard line. He didn't drive them down the field. I didn't. 822 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 1: I didn't see anything for Jaguars fans to be buoyant about. 823 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 1: It's beyond she's a she's a great singer, yes, uh, 824 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,839 Speaker 1: anything else in this game general. I would like to 825 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: note that earlier in the day Greg had picked the 826 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: Jaguars and I don't know what you can explain why, man, 827 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 1: and I know it's the romo thing maybe, but well, 828 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: I kind of think you might feel this is two 829 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 1: games this week that you might have at the last 830 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 1: minute done the wrong thing. And what else did I 831 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: do at the last minute that Dolphins team? I was 832 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 1: always taking the Dolphins. I was excited about that. I'm 833 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 1: glad you clowns are gonna watch. This was is tough. 834 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 1: I think it's closer to a fifty fifty game than 835 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: people would think. But when I saw Romo looks like 836 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,919 Speaker 1: he's definitely playing, I lost my will. All right, fair enough? 837 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: Moving on, By the way, they announced the three games 838 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,399 Speaker 1: in London next year, and you're the Jaguars are going back. 839 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: But you know what I really found interesting. There's gonna 840 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: be two games in back to back weeks there. So 841 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: what if you know we tried to send an a 842 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,280 Speaker 1: t L writer for over for a couple of weeks 843 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: into London. Listen, figure step of the Shadows. We have 844 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: a great loyal audience overseas TV. We're gonna need your 845 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: help with this. We know we can count on you 846 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 1: to set us up in London. You know, if I 847 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: had to pick a game, how about the first divisional 848 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 1: matchup in London history, Jets v. Dolphins. Come on, let's 849 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,880 Speaker 1: meg it happen? Cappen? Yeah, and Greg says a writer, 850 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 1: how about four writers, five the whole team and producer. 851 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 1: There we go in a production assistance some other people 852 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 1: my kind of party. I would say we could do 853 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 1: like one of those letter writing campaigns like people did. 854 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: What's the layer a letter? And bernardis to deliver a 855 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 1: letter writing campaign like when fans of a certain TV 856 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,240 Speaker 1: show that was on the bubble or was gonna be canceled. 857 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 1: They would like send in mouse traps to save the 858 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 1: show about the guy that was the exterminator, like that 859 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: type of stuff. What can we have our listeners send 860 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: to the NFL media offices to convince them to send 861 00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 1: us to England British money? I think it's illegal? Is it? 862 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 1: You can send money? Why not something? Yeah? Even yeah 863 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 1: if it's a currency, but a very small currency equivalent 864 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 1: of any tough all the is that what they call? Yeah, 865 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 1: they don't have tuppets anymore. No, that was like a 866 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,959 Speaker 1: lot of our British listeners don't know that Mark lived 867 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 1: in England. Well we could. I lived in Surrey in 868 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: a small little home on a street. We could perhaps 869 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,399 Speaker 1: for how long? Three years? That's pretty that's pretty long. 870 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 1: We can maybe find that home and stay there. Look, 871 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: this is what a sound luke to amracle accurate? Yes 872 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 1: or no? It is a fairly good attempt on your 873 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,839 Speaker 1: part to be accurate. Anyway. So I hit us up 874 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 1: on Twitter, like, maybe an idea the money thing, it's 875 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 1: a little off. Maybe something more cheeky that we could 876 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: send to NFL media. Send this team to London. Moving on, 877 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers head to the Metal Ends to face 878 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: the New York Jets. My blessed New York Jets, now 879 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,359 Speaker 1: users of eight in a row. Uh, they're doing so 880 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 1: poorly that Bernard, who won the Toaster game, asked me 881 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 1: and I fear it was seriously, should he jump off 882 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: the upper deck on Sunday at at the Metal Ends? 883 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 1: He should not. Nobody should do that. Seek help if 884 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 1: you're feeling that way or having those thoughts and that. 885 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 1: But the Jets, Bens have every right to be depressed. 886 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: This is a bad season. Let's talk about Ben Roethlisberger, 887 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: though twelve touchdowns in the last two games, now facing 888 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,919 Speaker 1: potentially historically bad secondary Let's be honest with the Jets West. 889 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,359 Speaker 1: What was the statue had downstairs today? They are last 890 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 1: in the league. They have allowed a passer rating of 891 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: one twelve point eight this season and to one touchdown 892 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 1: to interception ratio. I am gonna I'm gonna say, I'll 893 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 1: put a sandwich out there if anyone wants to take 894 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 1: it is Uh, if Ben Roethlisberger throws less than three touchdowns, 895 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 1: I'm not taking that. And now, if you said sanwich 896 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 1: he'll troll three in the first half. I mean, have 897 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 1: you said less than four? If it was three or 898 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,320 Speaker 1: lass would three or less? That's what I meant. Okay, 899 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 1: I think about that. Well, let's think about it. Though. 900 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,359 Speaker 1: I wanna enjoy your misery next to you, and well 901 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 1: you know you can't because I've detached on some level. 902 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,840 Speaker 1: You have to forever be loyal to the team and 903 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 1: always watch the games. But there is a detachment just 904 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 1: to save to keep my sanity. So yeah, Roethlisberger is 905 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 1: obvious gonna move the ball very well through the air. Uh, 906 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown is gonna have a big day. I'm sure. 907 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 1: Marcus Wheaton also, Mark, Hey this Brian. We'll see what 908 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,439 Speaker 1: he's doing. The last couple of weeks, he's been great. 909 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,439 Speaker 1: He set the record for Ted Eric Green's record also 910 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,879 Speaker 1: from the Steelers for five touch on in his first 911 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 1: three career games. If they don't beat that piece of 912 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: crap team by there, he is, Dave left here. He 913 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 1: came to pick it up and not dropping a hammer, 914 00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 1: but a deserving hammer on the Jets. What's that stuff 915 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 1: with that that should the Jet? This game? Probably in 916 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 1: all likelihood is we're talking thirty four teen I'd be 917 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 1: surprised if it's competitive. We'll see what happens. This is 918 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: the team you think it will be. I continue to 919 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 1: give the Jets way too much crediting Michael Vick. Well 920 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 1: you them last week on Sunday Night. But he moved 921 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,479 Speaker 1: the ball up and down the field. They didn't play 922 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 1: like a ten point team. He was you know what, 923 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 1: he was alright because he made terrible decision whenever there 924 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 1: was pressure around him, he made terrible decision like he 925 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 1: would try to run and it never worked. He was 926 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 1: actually very good throwing. They did great work between I'd 927 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,759 Speaker 1: say that the twenties in that game and then but 928 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 1: once they got into the scoring zone, that's been an 929 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 1: issue for the Jets for a couple of years running. 930 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 1: Now they have no idea how to punch it in 931 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 1: when they're in the One thing about the Steelers under Haley, 932 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,720 Speaker 1: they've been so up and down for years on offense. 933 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,919 Speaker 1: After what we've seen for two weeks, If they draw, 934 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's the Jets or the New 935 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 1: Cane and Mighty Mites. Whenever some some team from another 936 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 1: town it they drop another bomb and they do what 937 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 1: they did the last two weeks. I look at Pittsburgh 938 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 1: as I don't just say Denver is the only team 939 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,280 Speaker 1: out there in New England. Pittsburgh has to be looked 940 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 1: at as a potential top team in AF you're scoring, yeah, 941 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 1: if you're doing that on offense week to week, and 942 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,360 Speaker 1: if you but if you have fourteen Super Bowl rings, 943 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,240 Speaker 1: you will never be a team or in the NFL. 944 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 1: This is, of course now not an underdog team. And 945 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,359 Speaker 1: that's the difference that we have with This is the 946 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 1: team that you know, people that have loved to watch 947 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,360 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger play. This is the team everyone's always wanted 948 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,359 Speaker 1: him to be on. With the with these deep receivers 949 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 1: and a capable line and a good running game. I 950 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 1: mean they basically said, oh yeah, Bruce Arians, we will 951 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 1: go back to a Bruce Arians like offense. And it's 952 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 1: funny because when you when we all used to like 953 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger, a lot of it was because the magic 954 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 1: act in the pocket, he just making extending plays, and 955 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 1: instead he's playing like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady just 956 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 1: sitting back there and Tarin defensive apart. Alright, next up, 957 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 1: we have a NFC's alf. I'm not gonna call it 958 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,359 Speaker 1: a showdown because it it's between the two also rands 959 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,319 Speaker 1: in the division, The Atlanta Falcons at Tampa to face 960 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 1: the Bucks, a Bucks team that made the switch this 961 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,800 Speaker 1: week and went back back to West's boy Josh McCown 962 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,800 Speaker 1: at quarterback. So mccowna essentially looks like he gets a 963 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 1: second chance to make a first impression with Tampa and 964 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 1: maybe finish the season strong and be in contention for 965 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 1: a job there next year. What do we expect? I'll 966 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 1: ask you, Greg and Mark, I'd love to know your 967 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,319 Speaker 1: words on this as well. And West then you could 968 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 1: chime in and then all and then and they all 969 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,800 Speaker 1: feel good, and then h TV will chime with something 970 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,800 Speaker 1: esoteric and then it will be a great fun time. 971 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,920 Speaker 1: But Greg, you start your thoughts on Josh McCown you're 972 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 1: gonna see a nice, strong ending from him this season. No, 973 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 1: I don't have any reason to believe he's gonna be 974 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,439 Speaker 1: good because he wasn't good in the preseason and it's 975 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 1: not a really good team around him. He's got two 976 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 1: good receivers, but it's not a good offense. It's not 977 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 1: a good scheme, and they don't really have a running game, 978 00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,919 Speaker 1: and the offensive lines been pretty lousy. We are playing 979 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,359 Speaker 1: the Falcons out, so that's a offensive line. The last 980 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 1: two weeks has been better. Yes, Bobby Rainey looked better 981 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 1: last week than Doug Martin's looked all year. And Mike 982 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 1: Evans is starting to look like a number one receiver. 983 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 1: I do see. I do feel like Josh mccowny is 984 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,000 Speaker 1: entering a better situation than Mike Glennon was entering a 985 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 1: month ago. That's true, they haven't won any games. In 986 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 1: the meantime. I would like to see Charles Sims will play, 987 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,840 Speaker 1: and they were very high on him in the preseason. 988 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not sure what we're gonna get against 989 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 1: the Falcons here, but there is a team here in 990 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 1: Tampa that, yes they keep losing, but they knocked off Pittsburgh. 991 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 1: They really should have beaten Cleveland last week, and they've 992 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 1: come close a number of times. They're gonna win, Dan 993 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 1: and I picked him They're gonna win one of these 994 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,319 Speaker 1: And I was just saying, I'm looking at this and 995 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 1: I'm starting to like feel weird about it because i 996 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,840 Speaker 1: know Tampa's looks really bad as well on a number 997 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,200 Speaker 1: of occasions, and this is the hardest game for me 998 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 1: all all week to pick. It's just two teams that 999 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,880 Speaker 1: that stink. But they're not completely hopeless. There's something on 1000 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,360 Speaker 1: certain weeks they could show you something. So it's really 1001 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 1: hard to figure out who's gonna show up in this 1002 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:07,279 Speaker 1: game to make a reality show. After Lovey Smith and 1003 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 1: Rex Ryan gets fired, give them the best prospect in 1004 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,399 Speaker 1: the country, and if that prospect can make it through 1005 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,520 Speaker 1: both of those guys, just put him right in the 1006 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,840 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. These guys are the worst two quarterback 1007 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,120 Speaker 1: coaches in the NFL, or what is two offensive coach 1008 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 1: But look, Lovey Smith has been doing this for a 1009 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 1: decade with quarterbacks and it's just old. He can't ever 1010 00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 1: pick a quarterback. He goes back and forth. He has 1011 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,359 Speaker 1: no clue how to run an offense well. And it 1012 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,440 Speaker 1: has to make you nervous if you are, uh, if 1013 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 1: you are running the bucks like if they if mccau 1014 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,879 Speaker 1: doesn't show anything and they decide he's not the answer. 1015 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 1: Next year you got Glennon and now two regimes have 1016 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,359 Speaker 1: really given him a shot and he hasn't stuck. They're 1017 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 1: gonna go get somebody in the draft, and then what 1018 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 1: Lovey Smith is going to be the guy that shepherds 1019 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,359 Speaker 1: him into the NFL. It's it's kind of a weird 1020 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 1: move to have a coach that can't develop a courting 1021 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 1: is a team that lost their offensive coordinator essentially as 1022 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 1: the season began. They're gonna go have to get another one. 1023 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,799 Speaker 1: And Smith is used to looking for offensive coordinators because 1024 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 1: he had about six in Chicago and none of them work. 1025 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 1: Maybe you can pluck Mike Tyson away from the Falcons. Alright, 1026 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 1: the oak here's another. We were split on that one, 1027 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,720 Speaker 1: by the way. You and Mark at the Bucks, correct, 1028 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,160 Speaker 1: Dan and I. Also, we are learning now that Tampa 1029 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:23,880 Speaker 1: has no quarterback at all. We could switch. I'm surprised 1030 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,400 Speaker 1: you didn't go with your boy m accounts. Oh. I 1031 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised at all if he want. I just 1032 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,359 Speaker 1: feel like I told you the Buccaneers are the worst 1033 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 1: team in the NFL. I don't know, I have no 1034 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:36,480 Speaker 1: that's wild that you said that, because the next team 1035 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about is the Oakland Raiders. West. The 1036 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:43,359 Speaker 1: Bucks are worse than the Raiders. We can say, wow, okay, 1037 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 1: so they're gonna keep losing, but they're oh and eight. 1038 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,359 Speaker 1: They're gonna lose again. On Sunday. But you can't get 1039 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 1: on them on this. They're gonna face the Denver Broncos 1040 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,879 Speaker 1: uh in Oakland, so maybe they'll put up a fight. 1041 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,240 Speaker 1: Derek Carr has shown flashes, but the Broncos. The timing 1042 00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 1: of this doesn't work out for the Raiders coming off 1043 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,880 Speaker 1: broncos Loo using to the Patriots and semi embarrassing fashion 1044 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,239 Speaker 1: on on Sunday, and now you would think they're gonna 1045 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 1: get healthy against the Raiders. The any chance Oakland keeps 1046 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:13,160 Speaker 1: us close, No, that's not even a shot on Oakland. 1047 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 1: It's just probably not. But they have played better. You know, 1048 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:23,600 Speaker 1: the Seahawks defense essentially scored twenty points on Oakland. The 1049 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,120 Speaker 1: score was twenty four to three early and it had 1050 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,520 Speaker 1: been all about the Seahawks defense and turnovers. And yet 1051 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 1: the Raiders are in that game in the fourth quarter 1052 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,280 Speaker 1: in Seattle. Each week they have players now that actually 1053 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 1: look like an NFL players, you know what I mean. 1054 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,279 Speaker 1: They look more like a team even if they haven't 1055 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,280 Speaker 1: won anything. I think for me, because we talked about 1056 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 1: Bordles before, and I think earlier in the year, I 1057 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 1: would have said Bortles is the guy I want to 1058 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 1: start a team around. I'm I've moved over to car 1059 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,840 Speaker 1: well because Car to me week to week. You know, 1060 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,480 Speaker 1: he threw a couple of bad picks last week, no question, 1061 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,319 Speaker 1: but he is not the reason they're losing. And he 1062 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 1: also inside of two minutes a couple of times has 1063 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,120 Speaker 1: done some stuff. You're like, wait, this guy knows how 1064 00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 1: to move a team when when the clock's running. I 1065 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 1: mean he's he I think. Also, they've finally found some 1066 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,440 Speaker 1: chemistry with some of their wide receivers. Haven't seen that 1067 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,799 Speaker 1: in years in Oakland. But there's a long way to go. 1068 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,040 Speaker 1: Reggie McKenzie's gonna keep his job. People. People don't like it, 1069 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 1: but he's drafted the best rookie class in the in 1070 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 1: the league. But that's if you think they want him 1071 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:29,360 Speaker 1: to hire the next he was the fifth pick. Whatever 1072 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,360 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson went to seventh. You get talk about the 1073 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,560 Speaker 1: rest of Reggie mckenziy's working. Let's talk about this this class. 1074 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,280 Speaker 1: You get car who looks like a really interesting quarterback 1075 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 1: for a second round pick. You get Gabe Jackson, who's 1076 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,440 Speaker 1: been a starter and looks solid as a starter. You 1077 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:47,280 Speaker 1: get Justin Ellis, who really impressed me last week. Justin 1078 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 1: he's one of their defensive tackles. He's starting now. He 1079 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,239 Speaker 1: blew up a ton of plays last week. Was a 1080 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,920 Speaker 1: big reason why they stuffed UH Seattle. And then you 1081 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 1: got t J. Kerry, who's been playing a lot as 1082 00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,279 Speaker 1: the returner starting cornerbacks. Been okay, I'm just saying they've 1083 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:04,399 Speaker 1: had a great rookie class. Next week, next week, top ten, 1084 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,600 Speaker 1: top ten rookie classes. I like that. I like that 1085 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,120 Speaker 1: kind of party. Do we get that drop yet? I 1086 00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:16,440 Speaker 1: like that kind not that this this kind of part. 1087 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,920 Speaker 1: It's one thing to play the Seahawks the offense tough. 1088 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,000 Speaker 1: It's another thing to shut down Peyton Manning and to 1089 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,239 Speaker 1: keep David Carr upright against Von Miller and DeMarcus Ware. 1090 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 1: Moving on to St. Louis, Rams head to Arizona to 1091 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 1: the face the Cardinals. The Cardinals, of course seven and one, 1092 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,359 Speaker 1: the Rams at the bottom of the NFC West. But 1093 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,000 Speaker 1: you know there are a frisky three and five team. 1094 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,160 Speaker 1: How do we see this one, gentlemen, I think we 1095 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:45,800 Speaker 1: all have the Cardinals. I am I'm done doubting the Cardinals. 1096 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,920 Speaker 1: I bought in after I watched last week's game against Cowboys. 1097 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,960 Speaker 1: I like everything about this team. Now mm hmmm. So 1098 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 1: if we had waited, this might be the team of 1099 00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,919 Speaker 1: around the league that might have been. I still think 1100 00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,640 Speaker 1: the Steelers are more fun to watch, but I buy 1101 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,560 Speaker 1: into what the Cardinals are doing. Who's telling me? Who's 1102 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,279 Speaker 1: saying this to me? Recently? Was someone either a friend 1103 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,040 Speaker 1: of mine or someone downstairs saying, I cannot believe you 1104 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,719 Speaker 1: guys did not pick the Cardinals because they were a 1105 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 1: team that the scrappy team with a lot of good players, 1106 00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,480 Speaker 1: exciting players, and they have Bruce Arians who's our type 1107 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,040 Speaker 1: of guy. We love him, just like we love the 1108 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 1: Riverboat Ron last year. Bruce. He was a guy who 1109 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,960 Speaker 1: could have got behind this opportunity and it might be 1110 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,520 Speaker 1: our boy, Jason Zumwalt, one of our oil listeners and 1111 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 1: a friend of yours that's been asking that question from 1112 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:31,839 Speaker 1: the beginning of the year. While we didn't pick him, 1113 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:36,440 Speaker 1: that's true. It's this Carson Palmer's chance. I mean, former 1114 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:40,440 Speaker 1: number one pick the At one point people thought he's 1115 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,719 Speaker 1: the third best quarterback in the league behind Peyton and 1116 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,440 Speaker 1: Manning and Tom Brady and two thousand five day he 1117 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,239 Speaker 1: was in that sort of air. It's been a long 1118 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 1: road and a lot of lousy, lousy teams he's been 1119 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 1: on to get here, but this is kind of his 1120 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,480 Speaker 1: chance to go to a super Bowl. It is Kurt 1121 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:58,200 Speaker 1: Warner scenario. We talked about this on Monday. I think 1122 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:02,080 Speaker 1: in the news room the comparison Fitzgerald made the Spurs. 1123 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,920 Speaker 1: Greg and I kind of both thought separately the two 1124 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,080 Speaker 1: thousand and one Patriots. It's kind of like them. You've 1125 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,719 Speaker 1: got some proud, motivated veterans who are smart and know 1126 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,440 Speaker 1: the game really well, some exciting young players, and you 1127 00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 1: have that mix, and you have a guy like Larry Fitzgerald, who, 1128 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 1: to me, I love the way he's playing. I think 1129 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,600 Speaker 1: he could have a hundred and fifty yards every game 1130 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 1: if they weren't spread the wealth offense. With all that said, 1131 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 1: this isn't a gimme matchup against the Rams by any means. 1132 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,880 Speaker 1: The Rams think about against everyone but the NFC West. 1133 00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:36,120 Speaker 1: They've there six two and one since last season. They 1134 00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,040 Speaker 1: seem to put up a good fight against all these 1135 00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,000 Speaker 1: top opponents in their division. You know, if I were 1136 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 1: a Rams fan, I'd rather it be that. Then we 1137 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,320 Speaker 1: can win outside against the you know, the opposing conference 1138 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,240 Speaker 1: and pickup game here and there, but can't win in 1139 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,080 Speaker 1: our division. I mean they have that's a that's a 1140 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,439 Speaker 1: good place to start. So do you guys think says 1141 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:58,200 Speaker 1: Arizona win this division? I think so. Now they already 1142 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,840 Speaker 1: have a pretty good lead. I agree. I I I 1143 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,680 Speaker 1: still I'm behind the Seahawks, but I agree with you us. 1144 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 1: I've I've come around on Arizona. I think they're gonna 1145 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:11,280 Speaker 1: win eleven or twelve games. I think it comes a man, 1146 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 1: I have a hard time answering that we have to 1147 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:17,160 Speaker 1: collapse to not win eleven m Yeah, I guess, yeah 1148 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,320 Speaker 1: they would. I mean, now it's kind of like that 1149 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,080 Speaker 1: rematch against it. Maybe maybe they can get that San 1150 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 1: Francisco game and then basically you just have to split 1151 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,480 Speaker 1: with Seattle, which they've managed to do last year to 1152 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,320 Speaker 1: win the division. Basically, they're playing well enough. I think 1153 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,240 Speaker 1: Seattle is gonna have to sweep them in the in 1154 00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,440 Speaker 1: their two games to do it. I wouldn't been a 1155 00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,720 Speaker 1: plane in the Super Bowl. Still wouldn't be against Seattle. 1156 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,920 Speaker 1: Never happened before. Bruce arians told his team something about that, 1157 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:46,600 Speaker 1: don't let anyone else dressing your lockers this year. Coach 1158 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,360 Speaker 1: has been saying that for many years. I feel like 1159 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,640 Speaker 1: I've heard that before. I don't think I've ever Maybe 1160 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,560 Speaker 1: maybe I'm easily impressed, But yeah, they have a real shot, 1161 00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 1: the best shot of the teams in a long time 1162 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:03,080 Speaker 1: that have been hosting like no one. No one's let 1163 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:10,280 Speaker 1: anyone sit at your desks, gentlemen. People always make a 1164 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,520 Speaker 1: mess when they sit at my dead It's the basic thing. 1165 00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,000 Speaker 1: You would think you'd be respectful of some of the area, 1166 00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,120 Speaker 1: but typically that's not how it is, not the way 1167 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 1: in our newsroom. What does your high octane QB index 1168 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:25,400 Speaker 1: say about Austin Davis this week? Oh man, he's gotten 1169 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:29,360 Speaker 1: worse every week. He did the least that any winning 1170 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 1: quarterback has done in a winning performance all season. Last week, 1171 00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't do anything and they still won 1172 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,280 Speaker 1: the game. That's a credit to his team. Four point 1173 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,440 Speaker 1: four yards per attempts. This guy will not be starting 1174 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:45,000 Speaker 1: for the Rams in two No, I mean, I don't 1175 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,240 Speaker 1: want it feels like we're dumping on him. He's had 1176 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,960 Speaker 1: a much better season than you could ever have expected. 1177 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,080 Speaker 1: All Right, he might be the bridge quarterback, he might 1178 00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,880 Speaker 1: be like a backup quarterback, but yeah, he can be 1179 00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:56,880 Speaker 1: a fine NFL backup. But I just don't think he's 1180 00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:01,040 Speaker 1: the answer there. The New York Giants are slumping now, 1181 01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,960 Speaker 1: they are at three and five, and now they have 1182 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,920 Speaker 1: to face the Seattle Seahawks at the clink. The Seahawks 1183 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,080 Speaker 1: is was we were just saying with the Cardinals seven 1184 01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:13,240 Speaker 1: and one. There's no room for error for the Seahawks now. 1185 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,280 Speaker 1: If they're gonna make a run and be a team 1186 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,240 Speaker 1: that wins the division that has home games in the playoffs, 1187 01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,680 Speaker 1: they gotta start winning right now. So obviously they cannot 1188 01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:23,200 Speaker 1: drip up against what looks by by all counts, so far, 1189 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,520 Speaker 1: this looks like a mediocre, middle of the road seven 1190 01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,800 Speaker 1: or eight team, wind giant team. I think they'll be 1191 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 1: lucky to get to seven or eight at this point, 1192 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,920 Speaker 1: and I couldn't be more wrong about I think this 1193 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 1: is the team I've been most wrong about this year 1194 01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,840 Speaker 1: in terms of seeing them in the season and then 1195 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 1: them just turning totally around, because their schedule is brutal. 1196 01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:42,640 Speaker 1: If you look at their schedule, it's gonna be tough 1197 01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:44,680 Speaker 1: to get to seven eight wins. I think I've been 1198 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:48,840 Speaker 1: the most wrong about Seattle because as much as I 1199 01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,880 Speaker 1: keep wanting to see them as this team that they'll 1200 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,920 Speaker 1: get it right, and they're gonna end up with twelve 1201 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,960 Speaker 1: something wins. Watching what they did against Oakal and they 1202 01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,120 Speaker 1: seemed very challenged to me. On offense. They can't pass 1203 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,960 Speaker 1: the ball well right now, and you know their offensive 1204 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,280 Speaker 1: line will get healthier. But the Oakland Raiders, at this 1205 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:10,120 Speaker 1: what we saw last week. We're all over Russell Wilson. 1206 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,360 Speaker 1: They were all over the backfield and force him into 1207 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,560 Speaker 1: bad throws. You know, and he's one of the better 1208 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,280 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in league. When you get him out of the pocket, 1209 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:18,960 Speaker 1: he's got to make a play, he'll do it. He 1210 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,840 Speaker 1: was not getting that done last Sunday. It's only been 1211 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:24,720 Speaker 1: a couple of games, but to me, the Percy Harvon 1212 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,960 Speaker 1: trade looks like a mistake. They're not a good offense. Well, 1213 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,080 Speaker 1: they don't have someone to fill the gap. They were 1214 01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,680 Speaker 1: throwing the ball moorder Marshawn Lynch of anyone else last week, 1215 01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:37,720 Speaker 1: and I mean, you're right, it's like who is I mean, 1216 01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,400 Speaker 1: these guys aren't separating from defenders and making plays. At 1217 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,320 Speaker 1: the point of that, they kept Golden Tate, we might 1218 01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,040 Speaker 1: not be having this conversation, but they gave away to 1219 01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,320 Speaker 1: highly productive players and that Monday night lost by the 1220 01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,160 Speaker 1: Giants was ugly on about a hundred different levels. But 1221 01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:54,160 Speaker 1: again we saw that they hit on Odell Beckham with 1222 01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,440 Speaker 1: their first round pick. That guy is a big time player, 1223 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,600 Speaker 1: it looks like. And if Cruz, I don't know what 1224 01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,120 Speaker 1: happens with Victor Cruz going forward next season. If he 1225 01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:02,760 Speaker 1: comes back, the two of them together, that is a 1226 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,960 Speaker 1: great one to punch. We'll see if it ever happened. 1227 01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,640 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the big disappointment there. Though they've been 1228 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,040 Speaker 1: talking up Ruben Ruben Randall for two years, this guy's 1229 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:14,600 Speaker 1: he doesn't do anything. Vante Davis took him completely out 1230 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,200 Speaker 1: of the game last week. Where's Monte Davis in the 1231 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,480 Speaker 1: discussion of top cornerbacks as he he ought to be 1232 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,720 Speaker 1: up near the top this year this year, Yeah, I 1233 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,160 Speaker 1: think he's playing as well as any cornerback. Issue. What 1234 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,120 Speaker 1: they get, what the Dolphins get from the second round, 1235 01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,520 Speaker 1: second round pick with the Colts, re signed him to 1236 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,160 Speaker 1: a long term deal. Let him get free agency because 1237 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:35,200 Speaker 1: remember the Jets wanted him. He's also matured, so I 1238 01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,120 Speaker 1: don't think Miami had a great time working with him 1239 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,919 Speaker 1: in general. Tom Tom Coughlin, I mean he's won two 1240 01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:46,680 Speaker 1: super Bowls there barring another Coughlin like late season miracle, 1241 01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,560 Speaker 1: which I would never rule out with this team, and 1242 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,520 Speaker 1: I really wouldn't. And this you figured this, this has 1243 01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:56,000 Speaker 1: to be it for this Coughlin maybe Reese run together. 1244 01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,680 Speaker 1: It just feels stale at this point a little bit well, 1245 01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,320 Speaker 1: which means Eli Manning be in his third offense in 1246 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,400 Speaker 1: three years next season. And you think I'm anti Giants, Dan, 1247 01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,400 Speaker 1: You're not anti you just you're scarred by them. Man, 1248 01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 1: That's true, but that's because I like, I don't like 1249 01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,880 Speaker 1: lame regular season teams that went through Bowls in general, 1250 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:14,880 Speaker 1: especially a couple of times. This team is a lot 1251 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:16,720 Speaker 1: has not made the playoffs. If they don't make it 1252 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,640 Speaker 1: this year in five of six years, you like undefeated 1253 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:24,840 Speaker 1: teams that lose super Bowl five of six years is 1254 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:29,440 Speaker 1: a pretty indicting statement on this organization. Yeah, that, I mean, 1255 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:33,320 Speaker 1: the Super Bowls are obviously a master stroke for the franchise, 1256 01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,720 Speaker 1: but it does cover up a lot of wards at 1257 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,200 Speaker 1: this organization has been very good for a decade to 1258 01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,440 Speaker 1: save two big January runs, but it carries a lot 1259 01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,280 Speaker 1: of wings. I feel like there's two super Bowls bought 1260 01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:44,800 Speaker 1: him this year, but they're not going to buy him 1261 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:48,320 Speaker 1: another year. Isn't that elis Korean a nutshell though really 1262 01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,600 Speaker 1: low lows and really high highs. Whenever he gets there, Yes, 1263 01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:55,960 Speaker 1: very fair, and it will still put its gonna put 1264 01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,800 Speaker 1: him in Canton West. I don't think it's going to 1265 01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:02,240 Speaker 1: at all. We gotta get Kristi Kenton before Eli get 1266 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:06,880 Speaker 1: there because otherwise it's over over. The Chicago Bears head 1267 01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:10,800 Speaker 1: to Green Bay, Uh to face the Packers. I would 1268 01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,560 Speaker 1: say the Bears have reached must win status at three 1269 01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,240 Speaker 1: and five, and I think they're very much on the 1270 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:20,680 Speaker 1: ropes right now. Obviously. Meanwhile, the Packers are coming off 1271 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,400 Speaker 1: a bye week. It will be very interesting to see 1272 01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,680 Speaker 1: and very important for the Packers to see how Aaron 1273 01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:30,320 Speaker 1: Rodgers is moving and to make sure he doesn't reaggravate 1274 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:34,280 Speaker 1: that hamstring injury which he suffered against the Saints going 1275 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,200 Speaker 1: into the bye week. So watching Rogers how he looks 1276 01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:38,760 Speaker 1: as a big part of it, and he's looking good. 1277 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:42,840 Speaker 1: They're probably gonna cruise here, we think, right, Yes, I 1278 01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,840 Speaker 1: think this game is going to be a massacre. Really yeah, 1279 01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,560 Speaker 1: I guess the probably. I just think something with Chicago 1280 01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,080 Speaker 1: feels last year, there was a lot of reason for 1281 01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:54,840 Speaker 1: hope and no matter what the final record was, you 1282 01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,160 Speaker 1: feel like you found your coach who can quarterback. You 1283 01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,120 Speaker 1: can get these quarterbacks to play the way they need to. 1284 01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,680 Speaker 1: Everything's gone completely. There's a black cloud over the city. 1285 01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 1: Something's not right meeting, there's a black cloud over the city. 1286 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,680 Speaker 1: I was listening to the Tony Cornheiser podcast last week 1287 01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,960 Speaker 1: and Will Baum was on, who's based out of Chicago, 1288 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,560 Speaker 1: was from Chicago. He said he's spoken to four big 1289 01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,080 Speaker 1: name former Bears, some of which are Hall of famers. 1290 01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,200 Speaker 1: None of them can stand Cutler. And he said the 1291 01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,480 Speaker 1: tenor of the city is the most depressed about the Bears. 1292 01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:29,400 Speaker 1: And since it's been in thirty years, Wow, Maybe because 1293 01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:35,080 Speaker 1: they feel stuck with get excited Bears fans. I think 1294 01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:36,640 Speaker 1: that might be part of it, is that they feel 1295 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,080 Speaker 1: stuck with what's going on now that there's no it's 1296 01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,400 Speaker 1: not gonna be a change, there's no hope to change 1297 01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,880 Speaker 1: Cutler out. Alright, So that's it for Thursday's Editionally around 1298 01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,240 Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. Like one thing, just because I'm looking 1299 01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,760 Speaker 1: at my Twitter mentions, you assassinated our trivia show. I'm 1300 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:54,360 Speaker 1: just having fun. You guys liked that this from Rohan Sharma. 1301 01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:58,000 Speaker 1: Wednesday's podcast was the most I laughed during a football podcast. 1302 01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:04,440 Speaker 1: Major kudos, no kudo, glad you. I'm glad you enjoyed 1303 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:09,440 Speaker 1: the news and Thursday Nights laughter. We actually had a 1304 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:13,120 Speaker 1: listener who wants to make it a TV show? Is 1305 01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:18,000 Speaker 1: he Aaron spelling by an h but had me thinking, 1306 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,440 Speaker 1: you know, throughout a few names, the toast of games, 1307 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,240 Speaker 1: maybe okay, en a phone now, maybe there's something there. 1308 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,080 Speaker 1: All right, one step red time now for now, we 1309 01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:27,280 Speaker 1: need our English listeners to come up with something to 1310 01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,920 Speaker 1: send to the NFL offices. So hit up, hit us up. 1311 01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:36,000 Speaker 1: What's the hashtag a t N London eight in London. 1312 01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:39,680 Speaker 1: Let's do it on to London. Oh, hashtag on to London, 1313 01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:46,160 Speaker 1: to London, to London to London. So that's it. So yeah, 1314 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,000 Speaker 1: I get a get a get in on that. Uh. 1315 01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:51,760 Speaker 1: This is Dan Hansons signing off for the Mailman, the Sizzler, 1316 01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:55,320 Speaker 1: the Boss and the Great Tate Day behind the Glass 1317 01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:17,840 Speaker 1: until Football Sunday