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Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink

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Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing, and the Ravens are on their by,

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Speaker 1: which means we are going to do a self scout

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Speaker 1: just like the coaches. This is our Ravens' bye week evaluation.

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Speaker 1: Obviously sitting at one in five, the Ravens have a

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Speaker 1: number of things to work on this week, so we're

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Speaker 1: going to run through that as well as relay some

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Speaker 1: of the messages that we heard coaches talking about. We

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Speaker 1: heard from offensive coordinator Todd Monkin, defensive coordinator Zach Or,

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Speaker 1: as well as several position coaches. We heard from secondary

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Speaker 1: coach Chuck Pagano, quarterbacks coach De Martin, pass rush coach

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Speaker 1: Chuck Smith, offensive line coach George Warhop'm missing anybody.

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Speaker 2: Got them all?

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Speaker 3: Got them all? Heard from a lot of coaches.

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Speaker 1: So, Garrett, in terms of things for the Ravens to

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Speaker 1: work on over the by, kind of what's number one

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Speaker 1: priority in your book?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll go with what John Harball said in talking

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Speaker 2: about the offense, and he made the point that the

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Speaker 2: short yardage situations is probably at the top of that list,

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Speaker 2: and the Ravens just haven't been good enough this year

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Speaker 2: in third and fourth, third and short fourth and short

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Speaker 2: goal to go situations, and obviously the drive at the

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Speaker 2: end of the half against the Rams where you have

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Speaker 2: three shots inside the one yard line, I couldn't punch

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Speaker 2: it in really kind of put the explanation point on

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Speaker 2: that whole conversation and made it top of mind. So

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Speaker 2: I think that that's an area where the Ravens offensively

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Speaker 2: really need to focus in and drill down. And as

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Speaker 2: part of that, and this is a little bit bigger

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Speaker 2: picture on the offense, like Todd Munkin made the point

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Speaker 2: like the offense needs to get its mojo back, and

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Speaker 2: the way you can get your mojo back is when

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Speaker 2: you're at the one yard line. Punch it in like

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Speaker 2: that that helps the mojo factor. And so I think

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Speaker 2: that that's definitely something that this offense. They just have

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Speaker 2: to be better at it because there's been too many

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Speaker 2: critical situations for this team throughout the season where when

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Speaker 2: a game could turn in another direction, and the Rams

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Speaker 2: game is a perfect example of that. What happens if

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Speaker 2: the Ravens score right before half, well never know, but

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Speaker 2: I think that the Ravens may come out with a

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Speaker 2: win in that game, who knows, but like, and there's

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Speaker 2: other situations all throughout the season where they've been in

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Speaker 2: those spots and haven't been able to convert, and it's

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Speaker 2: hurt them, and that's part of the reason they're one

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Speaker 2: to five.

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Speaker 1: So I took the deep dive into these short yard

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Speaker 1: situations and I kind of call them clutch short yardage snaps.

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Speaker 1: It's goal line, so it's a goal to go from

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Speaker 1: the two yard liner in third and two or below

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Speaker 1: and fourth and two and below right, So kind of

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Speaker 1: clutch short yard snaps. And the Ravens have converted six

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Speaker 1: times in twenty four of those twenty five percent of

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Speaker 1: the time. That's well below the league average. The league

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Speaker 1: average on third down conversions with two or few yards

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Speaker 1: is sixty two point four percent according to True Media,

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Speaker 1: and on third and fourth down it's thirty two percent

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Speaker 1: and sixty four percent and in goal to go situations.

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Speaker 1: So the Ravens, it has definitely been a problem. You know,

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Speaker 1: they had a goal line. They were stuffed at the

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, in part because their own penalty, they

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Speaker 1: ended up kicking a field goal and then they were

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Speaker 1: and the baffling part of it is that you have Derrick.

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Speaker 3: Henry in the backfield.

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Speaker 1: You have one of the biggest runner running backs in

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Speaker 1: the league, most powerful dude, who's scored a ton of touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: He's tied with Walter Payton, I think for most touchdown exactly.

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Speaker 1: So when you're when you're in the same category as

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Speaker 1: yet you know they they just haven't done it. I think, obviously,

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Speaker 1: as it pertains to the entire offense. Not having Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson changes the calculus, his threat as a runner, his

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Speaker 1: obviously abilities as a passer. That has hampered the Ravens

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Speaker 1: on the goal line. I think very much narrowed the playbook,

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Speaker 1: solution there. Part of it is gonna be scheme play calling.

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Speaker 1: Certainly you second guess all that when it doesn't go right,

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Speaker 2: It's like one of the it's it's a classic cliche

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Speaker 2: of it's never one thing. It's it's scheme, it's play calling,

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Speaker 2: All of those things are part of the equation. And

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Speaker 2: like again, the goal line series against the Rams is

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Speaker 2: a good example. Like you could point, you can point

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, you need to be able

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Speaker 2: Endsione George.

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Speaker 1: Warhaps said they got low. Wasn't that they didn't dig

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Speaker 1: it out. They allowed the Rams to come up over

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Speaker 3: Jumping over over you.

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Speaker 1: You think six foot eight Daniel Folelee would help a

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Speaker 1: little bit with that. They just part of it is

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Speaker 1: certainly the blocking up front. That's where it starts in

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Speaker 1: short yardage and goal line situations. No ifs answer butts

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Speaker 1: about it. The Ravens have not been stout enough at

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Speaker 3: I think that's the.

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Speaker 1: When you really boil it down and I looked at

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Speaker 1: all of these situations. Oftentimes it's a block getting beat

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Speaker 1: here or there, and so they need to improve in

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Speaker 1: that area, to improve in short, short yard situations. But

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Speaker 1: that's not all of the issue. They haven't been particularly

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Speaker 1: creative or dynamic in those situations either. They've had some

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Speaker 1: dropped passes. It's a collection of things. For the most part,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be needed corrected to be corrected upfront.

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Speaker 2: I do think at a big picture level, I do

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Speaker 2: think the offensive line play just needs to just need

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Speaker 2: to improve the second half of the season here as

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Speaker 2: you come out of the bye week. And John Harbaugh

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Speaker 2: I did talk this week about that offensive line group

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Speaker 2: and the evaluation process as through that self scout could

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Speaker 2: be changes in that group, but didn't also promise anything

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Speaker 2: in terms of any adjustments. And George Warhap talked today

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Speaker 2: about the Ravens guards in particular, and that's where a

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Speaker 2: lot of the scrutiny has been with Angivori's left guard

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Speaker 2: season and he sees sety improvement with those three games.

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Speaker 2: So like I don't know if if the Ravens are

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Speaker 2: But in listening to Warhop, you know, he had good

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Speaker 1: It certainly sounds like rookie third round pick Emery Jones,

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Speaker 1: potentially the Knight and Shining Armor, to swoop in mid

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Speaker 1: his first practice in which he did pass protection as

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Speaker 1: an NFL player, and so by the sounds of it,

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Speaker 1: he still has a ways to come before the Ravens

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Speaker 1: believe he'll be ready to step into the starting lineup.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Warhaw just kept emphasizing, like, we'll see how that progresses.

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Speaker 2: It's very much. I mean, he wasn't even talking about

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Speaker 2: talking about him stepping in and playing one of these

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Speaker 2: he's learning the physicality of the NFL. He's learning how

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Speaker 2: to pass block in the NFL and just doing it

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Speaker 2: for the first time coming off his shoulder injury that

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Speaker 2: doesn't seem like it's going to be against the Bears.

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Speaker 3: In a week to me.

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Speaker 1: Moving on to the next item on the fix it lists, here,

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Speaker 1: the turnovers have to change. The Ravens are tied with

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Speaker 1: in turnover differential. There's minus seven right now, tied for

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Speaker 1: the third fewest takeaways three. When you're tied with a

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Speaker 1: winless team in the New York Jets, that's that's how

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Speaker 1: you lose games. That's why the Ravens are, in large part,

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Speaker 1: to me, besides the injuries, the biggest reason that they're

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Speaker 1: you're not getting enough. How do you fix that? Of

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Speaker 1: all the issues on the Ravens fix it list, this

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Speaker 1: one is the hardest because there's always an element of

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Speaker 1: sometimes you have good luck, the ball bounces your way

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Speaker 3: The Ravens haven't been getting them, other teams have.

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Speaker 1: Part of it is bad luck, you know, it goes

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Speaker 1: both ways luckwise, but also it's just ball security. And

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Speaker 1: that's what John Harball harped on is that's all you

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Speaker 1: Getting more takeaways and protecting the football was a major

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Speaker 1: we all know that's been the bugaboo in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: That's what's held the Ravens back from getting over the hump.

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Speaker 1: Is this takeaway, this turnover differential problem on both sides

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Speaker 1: That was part of the reason why they drafted Malchi

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Speaker 1: still not coming. And the additional frustrating part is that

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Speaker 1: from a turnover standpoint, it's been your best players. Derrick

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Speaker 1: your best players. These aren't guys that you can bench

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Speaker 1: because they made a big mistake.

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Speaker 3: It's these are guys that you have to rally.

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Speaker 1: Around, as Todd Munkin talked about today, and hard working

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Speaker 1: guys who care a lot and are just awesome players.

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Speaker 1: You have to lift them up when they're feeling like junk.

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Speaker 1: And it's just not an easy one. So the Ravens

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Speaker 1: feel like they can't stress it anymore. The coaches feel

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Speaker 1: like they cannot stress defensively.

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Speaker 2: Like turnovers was heard. It felt like every other word

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Speaker 2: in press conferences throughout the offseason the summer, like that

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Speaker 2: was a huge point of emphasis from every player from

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Speaker 2: the coaching staff, like takeaway takeaways. That needs to be

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Speaker 1: I just don't know how much an emphasis gets the

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Speaker 2: a fair question. But they're not having him shadow him

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Speaker 2: it's one of the matchup situation and the Rams run

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Speaker 1: I think up the majority in the slot, which Nate

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Speaker 1: Wiggins is not going to line up in the slot.

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Speaker 2: As we go down the stretch here and you look

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Speaker 2: Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, I think we're gonna see I

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Speaker 2: think we're gonna see Nate Wigan's traveling with some of

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Speaker 1: Sure, sure some of them like it's gonna be te

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Speaker 1: Higgins is no slouch either.

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Speaker 2: I know, but Jamar Chase is another one.

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Speaker 3: Sure, yes, yeah, that will I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: That will be interesting to see if if Nate does

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Speaker 1: a lot, that's that's not Nate's game. Marlon Humphrey controls

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Speaker 1: that game. But if it's if it's a if it's

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Speaker 1: primarily boundary wide receiver, boundary corner matchup, I think Nate

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Speaker 2: And the Ravens have not really done a lot of

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Speaker 1: I want to end this episode of the podcast talking

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Speaker 1: and that's the run game, and we saw that get

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Speaker 1: and George Warhop, the Raves offensive coordinator and coach, and

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Speaker 1: George Warhawk said a pretty point blank if we want

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Speaker 3: We can run the ball. We know we can run

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Speaker 1: The Ravens had success on kind of the outside zone

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Speaker 1: scheme against the Rams, and do they lean into that

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Speaker 1: a little bit more? Todd Munkins said, it's really match

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Speaker 1: But you know, if they that was kind of a

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Speaker 1: toss with Derek Henry, get him on the outside, get

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Speaker 1: from that, And I do wonder, even if it is

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Speaker 1: that direction to try to get him on the edges

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Speaker 1: a little bit more often? Either way, it was a

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Speaker 1: good sign for them to get the ball rolling, running the.

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Speaker 2: Ball, And I think that's part of the reason why

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Speaker 2: he talks about like the guard play and the offensive

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Speaker 2: some bright spots, especially in the ground game. I guess

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Speaker 2: the Rams and if you could run the ball without

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson in the lineup.

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Speaker 3: When with him in the lineup, I mean it alway.

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Speaker 2: Is going to become easier with Lamar in the lineup.

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Speaker 1: You wonder whether over the next eleven games and down

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Speaker 1: the stretch and as it gets colder and all the cliches,

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Speaker 1: the things that we talk about all every year, do

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Speaker 1: they go more run heavy? Generally speaking, the way they

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Speaker 1: came out of the box now, Derek Henry ran all

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Speaker 1: over the Bills. As we've seen from the Bills since then,

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Speaker 1: they're just a defense that gives up a lot of

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Speaker 1: big plays on the ground. But the Ravens offense really

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Speaker 1: was an explosive passing offense when they were humming early

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Speaker 1: in the season. I think there's a case to be

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Speaker 1: made that maybe Baltimore does lean more heavily onto the

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Speaker 1: ground game over the final eleven regular season games.

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Speaker 2: Well, as you mentioned, I mean, Derek Henry's got a

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Speaker 2: proven track record of getting stronger as the season goes along,

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Speaker 2: and so if the offensive line and the run game

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Speaker 2: is moving in the right direction, and then the defense

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Speaker 2: also is making some strides, I think that that those

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Speaker 2: two things can work inn tandem. So uh, the Ravens

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Speaker 2: have a lot of work on right now. The coaches

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Speaker 2: are working through the bye weekend to assess everything this

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Speaker 2: team is doing.

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Speaker 1: You'll be here all weekend, You'll be here through Sunday, right, Yes,

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Speaker 1: you can promise the listeners right now, give them your

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Speaker 1: you're follow up episode with you.

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Speaker 3: I'll be here if you're here, all right, that sounds perfect.

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Speaker 3: I'll set here, yeah through the bye.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're going to be grinding on that goal line situation.

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Speaker 3: Of course, I'm grinding is gruten grinder as always.

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Speaker 2: You can email us at the lounge at Ravens dot

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Speaker 2: NFL dot net. Thank you so much for listening. We'll

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Speaker 2: be back with you again coming up next week after

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Speaker 2: the bye