WEBVTT - Will the Real Anastasia Romanov Please Stand Up?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Criminalia, a production of Shonda Land Audio in

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<v Speaker 1>partnership with I Heart Radio. Hello, and welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>third season of Criminalia. This season, we're exploring the lives

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<v Speaker 1>and motivations of some of the most notorious impostors throughout history.

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<v Speaker 1>Gate I'm Maria Tremarqui and I'm Holly Fry And before

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<v Speaker 1>we can actually dig into this episode's impostor, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to talk first about Russian history. To lay a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of groundwork here, the Romanov family ruled Russia for more

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<v Speaker 1>than three hundred years, beginning in sixteen with Mikhail Romanov.

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<v Speaker 1>The dynasty gave us Peter the Great, Alexander the Great,

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<v Speaker 1>and the very famous Catherine the Great and Nicholas the Second,

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<v Speaker 1>who took the throne in four was ultimately not destined

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<v Speaker 1>to be Nicholas the Great. It was widely said that

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<v Speaker 1>he was really a lot more interested in his very

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<v Speaker 1>tight knit family than in matters of state. Is quite

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<v Speaker 1>shy and gentlemanly, and he was known to be chronically indecisive,

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<v Speaker 1>never a good quality for a leader, not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was also married to an unpopular German born

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<v Speaker 1>empress named Alexandra the Romanovs have five children. Their fourth child, Anastasia,

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<v Speaker 1>was born on June eighth. She was the youngest daughter

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<v Speaker 1>of zar Nicholas the second and Zarina Alexandra. But Nicholas

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't bombarded with congratulations when she was born. He was

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<v Speaker 1>bombarded with headlines though about the couple not yet having

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<v Speaker 1>a male air. This is one example from the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Times, which read star has another daughter. Russian people

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<v Speaker 1>again disappointed in their hope that an heir to the

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<v Speaker 1>throne would be born. So that's not the most auspicious

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<v Speaker 1>start to life, isn't no. And it's very telling that

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<v Speaker 1>that's something that was being reported worldwide, not just in

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<v Speaker 1>the Russian press, but New York Times over here in

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<v Speaker 1>the States. Of the sisters in the family, Olga was

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<v Speaker 1>the bookish one, Tatiana was a poised beauty, Maria was

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<v Speaker 1>sweet and kind hearted, and Anastasia was well, my most account,

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<v Speaker 1>she was reportedly a little bit of a hell raiser,

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of that kid that's a free spirit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>But considering that she was a royal, there's really not

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of information about Anastasia's life, and historians

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<v Speaker 1>believe that that's because there wasn't really anything remarkable about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It probably wasn't much different, for example, than that of

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<v Speaker 1>her sisters. And remember as well, she had been a

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<v Speaker 1>disappointment in terms of the country's desires, so meticulously documenting

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<v Speaker 1>her early life was probably not really a priority. Anastasia,

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<v Speaker 1>along with her older sisters, as well as her younger

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<v Speaker 1>brother Alexei, were known for their family name, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>but they weren't really known for their health. Alexei lived

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<v Speaker 1>with hemophilia. Anastasia suffered from a weak muscle in her

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<v Speaker 1>back as well as painful bunyans on her feet, which

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<v Speaker 1>both sometimes affected her mobility. Their mother often called upon

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<v Speaker 1>Gregory Resputin, who was believed to have healing powers. Over time,

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<v Speaker 1>though rescuted and became a close confidant to Alexandra, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's said he had quite a bit of influence in

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<v Speaker 1>her life. So this story is not about Rescpute and

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<v Speaker 1>though so we're not going to get into the scandal

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<v Speaker 1>of his relationship over the Romanoff children, and if we did,

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<v Speaker 1>we could be here for days, so we'll move on.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so much information in the world about Respute, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you're just eager for a trip down the rabbit hole, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but in terms of the romanofs the children were formally educated,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were educated at home, and we know Anastasia

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<v Speaker 1>loved singing and dancing, and that she frequently painted with watercolors.

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<v Speaker 1>Some reports about her hint that although she was quite smart,

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<v Speaker 1>she also was not really what you would categorize as

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<v Speaker 1>an attentive student. A lady in waiting to her mother

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<v Speaker 1>called Anastasia quote a sharp and clever child who liked

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<v Speaker 1>to play practical jokes on her siblings, not surprising for

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<v Speaker 1>the hell raiser at all. While we don't really have

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<v Speaker 1>an immense amount of information about her early life, and

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<v Speaker 1>fortunately we do know about Anastasia's death. So her father,

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<v Speaker 1>Nicholas the Second, abdicated the throne on March fifteenth, nine seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>That was in an attempt to prevent a civil war

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<v Speaker 1>from breaking out. That attempt did not work. The civil

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<v Speaker 1>war happened just the same, and he and his family

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<v Speaker 1>were taken captive and placed under house arrest. It was

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<v Speaker 1>early in the morning of July seventeenth, nineteen eighteen, that

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<v Speaker 1>the entire royal family, including a teenaged Anastasia, were taken

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<v Speaker 1>to the basement assured that they were being protected from

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<v Speaker 1>their rebellious violence, but instead the family along with four

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<v Speaker 1>members of their staff, which included Dr. Eugene Bodkin, the

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<v Speaker 1>family physician, Alexei trump valet To, Nicholas Anna Demidova, may

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<v Speaker 1>To Alexandra and Ivan Karatonov, the family cook, as well

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<v Speaker 1>as the family's dog, whose name we do not know,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were all executed in Yekaterinburg, Russia. The Romanov's

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<v Speaker 1>extended family were either killed as well or they were exiled,

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<v Speaker 1>and according to an initial statement from the firing squad,

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<v Speaker 1>they had killed only Nicholas the second, but they later

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<v Speaker 1>reported they had killed the entire family, but the anaesthesia

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the last to be executed. The accounts

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<v Speaker 1>of the men from that firing squad, however, were mostly

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<v Speaker 1>confusing and mostly unhelpful, and they proved themselves only good

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<v Speaker 1>for spreading rumors and gossip. The assassination was carried out

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<v Speaker 1>by Communist revolutionaries led by Bolshevik Party leader Vladimir Lenin.

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<v Speaker 1>A quick and very high level history note on this

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<v Speaker 1>time in Russia. So there was more than one more

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<v Speaker 1>going on, including World War One. When Lenin and his

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<v Speaker 1>party launched a coup against the Russian government that was

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<v Speaker 1>Nicholas's government, and within two day July sixteen, outside of

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<v Speaker 1>those executions of the royal family, there was no bloodshed

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<v Speaker 1>and Lenin rose to power as the country's new ruler.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bolshevik Party renamed themselves the Russian Communist Party, and

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<v Speaker 1>Lennon served as the founding head of the government of

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<v Speaker 1>Soviet Russia and then the Soviet Union until with Nicholas

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<v Speaker 1>off the throne, the assassination was a permanent end to

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<v Speaker 1>the royal family. The line of succession was over, and

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<v Speaker 1>so was the Romanov reign. So right now we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to take a break for a word from our sponsor,

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<v Speaker 1>and when we're back, we're going to talk about royal impostors.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Criminalia. Let's get back to the story

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<v Speaker 1>and talk about someone who was called Miss Unknown. Although

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<v Speaker 1>Anaesthetia died in nine eighteen, for years following the assassination

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<v Speaker 1>of her family, gossip and specy relations seemed to actually

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<v Speaker 1>keep her alive in the mind of Russians. Conspiracy theories

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<v Speaker 1>as well as impostors of the members of the royal

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<v Speaker 1>family began to emerge, and there are impostors claiming to

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<v Speaker 1>be pretty much everyone, including Olga, Tatiana, Maria, and Alexei.

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<v Speaker 1>But in total there were more than thirty women who

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<v Speaker 1>impersonated Anastasia and one guy who claimed that he was

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<v Speaker 1>her son. Those who have made the claim include a

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<v Speaker 1>Leonora Krueger between nineteen o one and nineteen fifty four,

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<v Speaker 1>who posed as the Grand Duchess in a Bulgarian village

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of lived out her life telling everyone that

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<v Speaker 1>was the scoop. It seems like they believed it. In

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<v Speaker 1>the mid twentieth century, there is a tragic story about

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<v Speaker 1>a mentally ill woman who spent years in hospitals and

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<v Speaker 1>prisons in the USSR. She actually died in a psychiatric

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<v Speaker 1>hospital in nine and the list really continues. There are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people we could talk about, but here

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<v Speaker 1>is an interesting one that is a little less tragic.

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<v Speaker 1>One impostor actually wrote Anastasia's memoirs as though she were Anastasia,

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<v Speaker 1>in which she described exactly how she escaped. That was

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<v Speaker 1>all false, And I have a new book from my

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<v Speaker 1>book class right. Perhaps the best known impostor of Anastasia

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<v Speaker 1>was a woman who called herself Anna Anderson. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to pause for just a minute, because this is

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<v Speaker 1>an important thing to tell you. The next part of

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<v Speaker 1>our conversation will include brief talk about a failed suicide attempt,

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<v Speaker 1>which may be triggering for some of our listeners. So

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<v Speaker 1>stay safe, mutis for just a minute, and we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>right back with that. Okay, So here we go. In Berlin,

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<v Speaker 1>in a woman was rescued from a canal after a

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<v Speaker 1>failed attempted suicide, and after she was rescued, she spent

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<v Speaker 1>several months in a psychiatric hospital which at the time

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<v Speaker 1>was called Daldorf Asylum. And upon her arrival and intake

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<v Speaker 1>at the asylum, though she was a total unknown. She

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<v Speaker 1>had no sort of identification on her at all, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes it really difficult when you're trying to do intake.

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<v Speaker 1>So she became known at the hospital as Freuleine und Vicans,

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<v Speaker 1>which translates into English as miss Unknown. So it said

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<v Speaker 1>that Miss Unknown would lie in her bed with a

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<v Speaker 1>blanket pulled over her face all day long, which to

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<v Speaker 1>me sounds like a woman who was really scared, right

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<v Speaker 1>and needs a little help. It took her nearly six

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<v Speaker 1>months before she felt comfortable enough to get out of

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<v Speaker 1>her bed and even to talk to other patients. Her

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<v Speaker 1>name was actually not Miss Unknown, to surprise no one,

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<v Speaker 1>it was Anna Anderson, and around this time at the

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<v Speaker 1>psychiatric hospital she was at, a magazine article about Anastasia

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<v Speaker 1>crossed Anna's path. A woman named Anna Kemnets, who worked

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<v Speaker 1>at the asylum, gave an account of what happened. After

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<v Speaker 1>Anna saw this article and we quote, she asked me

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<v Speaker 1>if I didn't notice something about it, and I answered

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<v Speaker 1>that I didn't. She then said, can't you see the

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<v Speaker 1>similarity between us two. Anna's accent and her quote Romanov

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Eyes had some patients wondering if the former Miss

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<v Speaker 1>Unknown was actually Grand Duchess Anastasia, who of course had

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<v Speaker 1>been executed in nineteen eighteen. And Anna didn't deny that

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<v Speaker 1>she was, although at this point she didn't confirm it either,

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<v Speaker 1>and because she was a bit coy about it, others

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<v Speaker 1>in the hospital speculated that she was really royalty, and

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<v Speaker 1>as a consequence, Anna became quite a curiosity, and she

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<v Speaker 1>was a curiosity not just to the other patients in

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<v Speaker 1>the hospital. Journalists and Russian aristocrats learned about this unusual

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<v Speaker 1>woman and they kind of got hooked and a little

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<v Speaker 1>invested in her story as well. Some thought she could

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<v Speaker 1>be the genuine Anastasia, but others dismissed her as yet

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<v Speaker 1>another royal fraud because remember, there had been a lot

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<v Speaker 1>already by this time, yes, very many, And it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>help that there were also very many rumors swirling around

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<v Speaker 1>about this. For example, and this is one of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite rumors that popped up, it was suggested that the

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<v Speaker 1>Romano daughters survived because there were jewels sewn into their

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<v Speaker 1>corsets and those jewels protected them from bullets. It's a fancy,

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<v Speaker 1>fancy bulletproof vest. I wish jewels could help them out

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<v Speaker 1>in the bullets situation, but sadly, probably not right. Some

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<v Speaker 1>versions of that story that I have seen suggests like

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<v Speaker 1>they were not intended to be clear to stop bullets.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a way to hide the family wealth while

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<v Speaker 1>they were imprisoned, exactly. And it was noted in Anna's

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<v Speaker 1>file that she exhibited some antisocial behavior and that she

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<v Speaker 1>had some unusual scars on her body, and she also

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<v Speaker 1>spoke with a strange accent. While she had initially been

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<v Speaker 1>noncommittal on the matter, or you know, perhaps she was

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for the right time, Anna eventually claimed that she

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<v Speaker 1>was actually Anastasia and the only surviving member of the

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<v Speaker 1>Romanov family. Her story went like this. She had been wounded,

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<v Speaker 1>but she survived the attack, and a guard who was

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<v Speaker 1>sympathetic to the royal family smuggled her out of Russia.

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<v Speaker 1>She did know some little known facts about the royal family,

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<v Speaker 1>but that alone wasn't really enough to convince anyone that

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<v Speaker 1>she was the real thing. The immediate relatives of the

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<v Speaker 1>Romanov family did not believe Anna's story at all, said

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<v Speaker 1>Prince Nicholas Romanov, a cousin of Nicholas the second quote.

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<v Speaker 1>The murder of the Czar and his family was such

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<v Speaker 1>a horrible thing. There was that wish among the people

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<v Speaker 1>that it couldn't be so horribly true. After her stay

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<v Speaker 1>in the hospital, Anna was actually still a hot topic.

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<v Speaker 1>Books were written about her before and against whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not she was a fraud. Lawsuits were filed, although nothing

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<v Speaker 1>ever came from them, and she continued to make her

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<v Speaker 1>claim from all the way until and after many tries,

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<v Speaker 1>she actually was never able to get her claimed royal

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<v Speaker 1>name and lineage recognized by the European courts, which repeatedly

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<v Speaker 1>found that Anna couldn't provide concrete evidence that she was Anastasia.

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<v Speaker 1>But what did happen was that this woman who called

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<v Speaker 1>herself Anna Anderson but pretended to be Anastasia Romanoff unintentionally

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<v Speaker 1>kind of became an important and interesting part of Russian history.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's take another break for a word from our sponsor,

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<v Speaker 1>and when we come back, we'll figure out if Anna

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<v Speaker 1>really was who she claimed she was. Welcome back to Criminalia. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about one of my favorite subjects, skeletons. Yes, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So around the time the USSR fell in a mass

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<v Speaker 1>grave of what was believed to be the royal family

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<v Speaker 1>was discovered. The remains were sent to a forensics lab

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<v Speaker 1>and all were eventually confirmed to be the Romanoff family,

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<v Speaker 1>but two victims were unaccounted for, anastasia sister Maria and

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<v Speaker 1>her brother Alexei. The remains that both children were eventually

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<v Speaker 1>discovered as well, but that didn't happen until two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and seven. And there's an interesting thing here because his

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<v Speaker 1>earliest ninety seven, a Berlin newspaper ran an investigative report

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<v Speaker 1>on Anna and they actually got it all right, even

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<v Speaker 1>without DNA testing in today's forensic techniques. I totally want

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<v Speaker 1>to meet this journalist, I did right, like somebody was

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<v Speaker 1>super on the ball. So this report revealed that her

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<v Speaker 1>name was Franzisca Shingoska and that she was a Polish

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<v Speaker 1>factory worker and she had been reported missing after she

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<v Speaker 1>had been injured in a factory explosion, and this Berlin

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<v Speaker 1>paper noted that the timeline of her disappearance coincided with

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<v Speaker 1>when Anna relocated and appeared in Berlin. Annado continued to

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<v Speaker 1>refuse all claims suggesting that she was not missing Royal

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<v Speaker 1>She said that she was, and she would quietly remind

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<v Speaker 1>everyone that she was Grand Duchess Alexandra Romanov. Also problematic

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<v Speaker 1>for Anna right at this time was that she had

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<v Speaker 1>an actual brother, Felix, and Felix identified her as his sister.

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<v Speaker 1>In ninety one, after Anna's death, a DNA sample confirmed

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<v Speaker 1>what that newspaper had reported decades earlier, right she was

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<v Speaker 1>definitely not related to the Romanov family. Skeletal remains were

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<v Speaker 1>found in a forest near a Katerinburg and with DNA

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<v Speaker 1>testing it had been confirmed that they matched Nicholas the

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<v Speaker 1>second and his family, and then the bodies of the

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<v Speaker 1>two youngest children were still at this time, As Maria mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>a moment ago missing. In two thousand and seven, there

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<v Speaker 1>were two sets of remains found nearby the original burial sites,

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<v Speaker 1>again because of DNA testing and confirmed by multiple identification laboratories. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>it is believed that these skeletons that were found in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and seven are the remains of the two

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<v Speaker 1>missing Romanov children, Maria and Alexei. In the Russian government

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<v Speaker 1>confirmed that Anastasia's bones were among the remains of the

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<v Speaker 1>royal family that had been identified conclusively in After two

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<v Speaker 1>years of research, scientists concluded that Anastasia's body was definitely

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<v Speaker 1>accounted for. This is kind of a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>modern day side note rabbit hole to go on, but

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be fast. So Queenlizabeth the Second, her husband Prince Philip,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of their descendants are actually related to the Romanos.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all through Queen Victoria, who was Alexandra's grandmother. So

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<v Speaker 1>Queen Victoria and her husband Albert had nine children, and

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<v Speaker 1>they had dozens of grandchildren who married throughout the royal

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<v Speaker 1>houses of Europe, and for that reason, Victoria is sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>called the Grandmother of Europe. And done done, Yeah, Almost

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<v Speaker 1>every royal family has some quick connection back to Victoria

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<v Speaker 1>and Albert. More than one hundred years, give or take

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<v Speaker 1>a year, had passed when the Russian Orthodox Church actually

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<v Speaker 1>reopened the case of the Romano family. Today, all members

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<v Speaker 1>of the immediate family have been identified through DNA evidence,

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<v Speaker 1>But despite the findings, which were based on thirty seven

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<v Speaker 1>different evaluations by forensic, molecular, genetic, and handwriting experts, the

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<v Speaker 1>Church claimed that the scientific investigation had been mishandled and

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<v Speaker 1>they continue to believe that the remains that were found

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<v Speaker 1>are not those of the Romanov family, so then, of

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<v Speaker 1>course we have Anna. With genetic testing, it was determined

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<v Speaker 1>that Anastasia was assassinated along with her family. Annas fraud

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<v Speaker 1>was confirmed solidly when her DNA did not match that

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<v Speaker 1>of the Romanov remains, nor did it match any living

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<v Speaker 1>descendants of the Romanov family. Scientists also compared Anna's DNA

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<v Speaker 1>with that the man named Carl Malcher. She did match

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<v Speaker 1>with Carl, who happened to be a great nephew of

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<v Speaker 1>Francisca Shanoska. It was confirmed that Anna was, in fact

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<v Speaker 1>that missing Polish factory worker named you got It Franzisco. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>historians and scientists agree that Anna and princessca were the

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<v Speaker 1>same person, Nicholas Romanov, Prince of Russia, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to quote him here. I am certain at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of her life she believed in her own story, and

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<v Speaker 1>in a confused way, she forgot her own life, and

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<v Speaker 1>there are those who wished to share her story. People

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<v Speaker 1>look for exceptional events to change the past, but history

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<v Speaker 1>is brutally effective in its solutions and brutally simple. I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say, based on the two quotes we have

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<v Speaker 1>of him here, I think he's an insightful person who

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<v Speaker 1>gets right to the point. He definitely gets right to

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<v Speaker 1>the point. Yes, of course, everyone wants to believe the

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<v Speaker 1>better and more hopeful story, and I understand that, but

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta live in reality, people. He has a point.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, everybody wants to believe in something that's a

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<v Speaker 1>fairy tale. Yeah, that's less horrific in reality. Yeah, understandable.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen sixty eight, Anna emigrated to the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>and she continued her story about being the Grand Duchess

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<v Speaker 1>her niece while Trashing reportedly said, we quote my Auntie

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<v Speaker 1>was the cleverest of the four children. She wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>come out into the world, wanted to become an actress.

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<v Speaker 1>Something special. Well, Anna was something special, but just not

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<v Speaker 1>something that I would have imagined for. When she was

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States, she married history professor Jack Manahan,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jack was also a firm believer that his wife

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<v Speaker 1>was Grand Duchess Anastasia. He would later describe her as,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to quote him here, probably Charlottesville's best love.

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<v Speaker 1>Eccentric in Anna dite of complications of pneumonia in Charlottesville, Virginia,

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<v Speaker 1>where she was known as Annie Apple, a mad local.

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<v Speaker 1>Anna story continues to be very popular. She has been

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<v Speaker 1>the plot of Broadway shows, Hollywood movies, The Royal Ballet,

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<v Speaker 1>Fox Animation Studios made a film about her, and there

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<v Speaker 1>have been books ranging in nature from very scholarly to

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<v Speaker 1>quite romantic. I like that she ended up with someone

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<v Speaker 1>who loved her so much that he thought that she

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<v Speaker 1>was on stage. Yeah, she she kind of got to

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<v Speaker 1>live out her her belief the way she wished. I

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<v Speaker 1>also love that her community when she was there in

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<v Speaker 1>the eighties referred to her as Annie Apple, a mad local.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sort of sweet. It's as if they knew her history,

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<v Speaker 1>but it really didn't bother them, you know, So before

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<v Speaker 1>we get into the drink. I was reading that in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen there were mocktail bars popping up in New York

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<v Speaker 1>City and probably other cities around the country only mock tails,

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<v Speaker 1>and and just two years later they're like more than

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<v Speaker 1>a dozen in one city, and they're really just popping up.

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<v Speaker 1>So your recipes could be more and more popular. So

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<v Speaker 1>what do you have for us today? Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting for a few reasons, right one, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a bigger interest in the idea of having

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<v Speaker 1>like yummy librations that are are not alcohol laden. For

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<v Speaker 1>a variety reasons, there are some people who were just

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<v Speaker 1>less interested in drinking. I also wonder how much of

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<v Speaker 1>that is in terms of its growth as an industry,

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<v Speaker 1>is tied at least in some small part to the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that you don't need as many licenses to open

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<v Speaker 1>a mock tail bar. We don't need a liquor license

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<v Speaker 1>to sell juice. So my mock tail this time is

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<v Speaker 1>called the Other Romanov and this comes with its own

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<v Speaker 1>kookie story, so get ready. So, first of all, because

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<v Speaker 1>of the name similarities, I immediately thought of strawberries Romanov

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<v Speaker 1>when I began brainstorming about a drink that might suit

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<v Speaker 1>and a story. Yes, do you know the story of

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<v Speaker 1>Strawberries Romanoff? Though you have told this to me before.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a reason this particular dessert is so deeply appropriate

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<v Speaker 1>to link to this tale because it is normally credited

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<v Speaker 1>in its invention to a restaurateur who went by the

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<v Speaker 1>name Michael Romanov. His real name was Harry F. Gergison.

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<v Speaker 1>That was an anglicized version of his birth name, Herschel

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<v Speaker 1>giggs In, and he claimed to be a member of

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<v Speaker 1>the House of Romanov. But he ran a restaurant in

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<v Speaker 1>California that was very popular for a while, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>where he created, allegedly, strawberries Romanoff. Would you normally see

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<v Speaker 1>with two f's on the end instead of the V,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're sometimes interchangeable. So I thought it would be

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<v Speaker 1>fun if we came up with a drinkable version of

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<v Speaker 1>strawberries Romanoff. If you haven't ever had it, it's basically

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<v Speaker 1>like fresh cut strawberries in a beautiful crystal dish, often

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<v Speaker 1>with like a cream sauce that's sweet and has kind

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<v Speaker 1>of some nice layering of flavors to it. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is a little bit of a build your own adventure

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<v Speaker 1>drink because you want to alter some things to suit. Probably,

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<v Speaker 1>so it starts with two pints of strawberries, though, and

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<v Speaker 1>you want to, of course, you know, cut off the stems.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have a good blender, you don't really have

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<v Speaker 1>to do much more than that. You don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>chop them up or anything, just toss him in. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you need something to create that creamy element. I

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<v Speaker 1>have seen many different a piece for just literally making

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<v Speaker 1>strawberries roman off when you're not blending it into a drink.

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<v Speaker 1>But so you can use something like vanilla ice cream

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<v Speaker 1>or heavy cream here. But here's the thing, I actually

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<v Speaker 1>prefer sour cream for this. Like a half cup of

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<v Speaker 1>sour cream is perfect because it gives this this richness

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<v Speaker 1>and like it's a little cheesecakey when you sip it,

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<v Speaker 1>which is very nice. And then you're going to use

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<v Speaker 1>two to three table spoons of the sweetener of your choice.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people like confection or sugar, some people like regular

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<v Speaker 1>granulated sugar. I like brown sugar because again it adds

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<v Speaker 1>a nice layer of flavor. I also add a teaspoon

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<v Speaker 1>of fresh orange zest. Just zest the skin of your

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<v Speaker 1>orange with your your fine greater over that blender. Throw

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<v Speaker 1>this all in a blender, blended, blended, blended, and then

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<v Speaker 1>take a peek at it, see what its consistency is like.

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<v Speaker 1>And add a milk I like oat milk for this one,

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<v Speaker 1>until it's liquid e and smooth enough that you're pretty

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<v Speaker 1>confident you can sip it through a straw without it

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<v Speaker 1>being an effort that is uncomfortable. It is so stink

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<v Speaker 1>and delicious, and it is quite filling and heavy. It's

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<v Speaker 1>basically like a really rich smoothie and it's little Now

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<v Speaker 1>is the strawberries rumman off of I'm remembering correctly. About

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<v Speaker 1>the alcohol that usually is involved in it, is that

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<v Speaker 1>a brandy that goes into the sauce sometimes? Yeah, some

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<v Speaker 1>people also use Grand Marnier, which is why I put

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<v Speaker 1>that orange zest in because that has an orange flavor

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Yeah, totally, But yeah, I love this with

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of brandy in it. It seems like

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<v Speaker 1>it would be a good summer drink because it is

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<v Speaker 1>sort of sweet and cold. However, I think it is

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<v Speaker 1>too heavy for that. Like, I would not go outside

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<v Speaker 1>and sip this casually because you'll just feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>felt very much like I would just like to sit

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<v Speaker 1>quietly in a corner and burt for a while, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's a heavy, heavy beverage, but so yummy. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>dessert for sure. Sitting on the porch, just sip and

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<v Speaker 1>so straw. It's not a summer drink, no, but oh delicious.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet that is delicious. It's like the yummiest way

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<v Speaker 1>to make a smoothie ever. And I just I love

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<v Speaker 1>taking advantage of fresh fruit anyway, and it makes it

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<v Speaker 1>fun for mocas. So you would like a very dessert

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<v Speaker 1>e mocktail, this is the one for you. UH want

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<v Speaker 1>to once again thank you for spending this time with

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<v Speaker 1>us while we talk about the many romanofs, both impostors

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<v Speaker 1>real and the ones that just wanted to make up

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<v Speaker 1>recipes and kind of claim they were near the Romanov family.

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