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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. It's Chandeler Roam with Crush City Territory.

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Speaker 1: I hope everyone had a merry Christmas. And as part

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Speaker 1: of our outpouring of support that we've gotten from all

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Speaker 1: of our fans and everything, Tyler and I got together

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Speaker 1: thought we should get all of you a Christmas gift.

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Speaker 1: And your Christmas gift is Josh Reddick.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, everybody, Josh.

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Speaker 1: We're thrilled to say Josh is gonna be a regular

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Speaker 1: contributor to Crush City Territory from here on out. We'll

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Speaker 1: have him on at least once a week, maybe more

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Speaker 1: if Josh's schedule allows. But we are just we're really

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Speaker 1: hyped up to have it because we know that Houston

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Speaker 1: fans love Josh Reddick. Astro's fans love Josh Reddick his

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Speaker 1: entire tenure here. And then, Josh, you've been inching toward

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Speaker 1: the media side a little bit, done some stuff on

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Speaker 1: the radio with Robert Ford, You've worked at Space City

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Speaker 1: Home Network, done some free and post and we're just

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Speaker 1: happy that you chose us to keep your media career going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm slowly dipping the toe into the media

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Speaker 2: upon you know, it's a tough line to cross when

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Speaker 2: you're a player that you know, especially someone like me

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Speaker 2: who kind of tried to avoid any kind of media

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Speaker 2: connection when I played. So it's just it's crazy how

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Speaker 2: they can switch out whenever you're retired and you can

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Speaker 2: kind of come to the dark side, so to speak.

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Speaker 2: But it's fun to be here. I can't wait to

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Speaker 2: all kinds of crazy stuff like I can.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's odd because you were like when toward the

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Speaker 1: end of your career in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, I

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Speaker 1: just started covering the team. You were one of my

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Speaker 1: go to quotes. Man, Like you said you didn't want

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Speaker 1: to associate yourself with the media. You were you were

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Speaker 1: a reporter's dream towards the end of the toward the

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Speaker 1: end and in twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen when.

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Speaker 2: I credit the Red Sox for that because coming up

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Speaker 2: with there's system. You know, we were trained and you know,

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Speaker 2: how to deal with media because you know, going into

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Speaker 2: get every little bit they could. So they did a

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Speaker 2: lot of a lot of coaching with us about how

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Speaker 2: being truthful. That's the best way you can do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I mean, I think and you were so

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Speaker 1: tell it like it was, you know, would not sugarcoat things,

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Speaker 1: but would also you know, you were really good at

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Speaker 1: you know not I mean, obviously you were never going

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Speaker 1: also good at telling it like it was. You know,

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Speaker 1: this is this is why we're not playing well. This

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Speaker 1: is why we are playing well. It was it was

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Speaker 1: refreshing to hear and look on those two teams I

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Speaker 1: just talked about twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, there weren't many

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Speaker 1: times when you guys weren't playing well, So it made

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Speaker 2: So when you went one hundred season, when you went

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Speaker 2: You don't really have to answer all questions. We'll get

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Speaker 3: Yeah, When when do you bust out the speedo for

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if our viewers want

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Speaker 3: So what have you been up to? Uh, in the

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Speaker 2: Traveling? Raising? My boys are five year olds now, so

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Speaker 2: I got one that's heavy into go karting. So usually

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Speaker 3: Do you regret that Rider is not the the go

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Speaker 3: karting one. I feel like you might have to switch names.

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Speaker 2: No, because you know, we put him in one and

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Speaker 2: he was very hesitant about it. He would be, the

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Speaker 2: He's not afraid to give you a little bump and

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Speaker 3: So I'm left handed as well. My oldest daughter, she's

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Speaker 3: But I feel like you watch the soft ball they

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Speaker 2: You're welcome, You're quicker out of the box when you're

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Speaker 2: left handed, especially with the soft ball swing. Yeah. I

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Speaker 3: I'm a lefty guitar player too, so I gotta I

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Speaker 3: gotta convince one of these kids to be a lefty

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Speaker 3: so they get my guitars after after I'm gone, Hey, you.

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Speaker 2: Got no other way to teach him, so like you

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Speaker 1: I know time flies, man, because I remember you guys

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Speaker 1: had the twins. Was it during the twenty nineteen World

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Speaker 2: I know, I take that back, because we had two

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Speaker 1: So did you guys plan it like that or was

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Speaker 2: It was actually better for us because they were supposed

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Speaker 2: so that's good. But yeah, so just it worked out

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm, that's great. That's that's and look now they've now,

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Speaker 1: We're we we're really excited to have you on and

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Speaker 1: to kind of look forward now look to see, you know,

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Speaker 1: what they've done with the ash. This is an astrocentric podcast,

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure those storylines will present themselves as we

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Speaker 1: Jose L Tuove is still there. Uh no one else,

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Speaker 2: Well, I think when you look at the career now,

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Speaker 2: you know, they really like the paradest kid. He seems

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Speaker 2: It's not Minimate. I'm sorry, diking Park. The Crawford Boxes

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Speaker 1: Part of part of what you just said, you know,

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Speaker 2: I think it plays better for them because I'm the

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Speaker 2: So that's good. That could be some things that scare

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Speaker 2: I got I've got my money. So it all depends on,

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Speaker 2: going to get when you make trades like this.

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Speaker 3: Josh, how can you tell those types of things? I

432
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Speaker 3: mean as a as a player, but also is just

433
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Speaker 3: you know, other people around you. Obviously you were with

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Speaker 3: Tucker in twenty nineteen when he came up as a rookie.

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Speaker 3: Were there signs of him I'm becoming this superstar? Like

436
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Speaker 3: what what did you see in him? Playing with him

437
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Speaker 3: at the time that you know, did did you see

438
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Speaker 3: anything like this coming up? Or to tell us a

439
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Speaker 3: little bit about what he was like back then?

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Speaker 2: I think we all knew how good he was. I

441
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Speaker 2: don't think we ever saw him turning into like this

442
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Speaker 2: big of a superstar so fast. Maybe down the road.

443
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Speaker 2: My personal thought was you better start hitting, or this

444
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Speaker 2: kid's going to take a job. That was my thought process. No,

445
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Speaker 2: I don't think we really thought what was gonna happen

446
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Speaker 2: with Tuck. I think he's just he's gotten better with age.

447
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Speaker 2: And the one thing I've noticed this difference with him

448
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Speaker 2: when he came up and debuted, I think it was

449
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Speaker 2: at seventeen or eighteen, he debuted, I can't remember. He

450
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Speaker 2: was this one hundred and eighty pound kid, and now

451
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Speaker 2: you stand next to him and the kids like two

452
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Speaker 2: o five. So the weight that he's put on has

453
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Speaker 2: helped not only his power numbers, he's helped his you know,

454
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Speaker 2: doubles numbers, everything else. And just he's always been a

455
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Speaker 2: guy who has a great strike zone approach. So he's

456
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Speaker 2: going to take his walks and he gets putting a

457
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Speaker 2: good swings on the baseball bat. But I think and

458
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Speaker 2: that that weight probably helped him out a lot with

459
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Speaker 2: not only his baseball aspect, but keeping his body healthier,

460
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Speaker 2: making him more prepared to come to the ballpark on

461
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 2: a big league devil level every day. He just he

462
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Speaker 2: came in when he when he debuted, I always it

463
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Speaker 2: was it was kind of a wrong time we needed

464
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Speaker 2: him there. But you know, he was in a clubhouse

465
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Speaker 2: full of just guys that were been there for five

466
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Speaker 2: six years, This clubhouse full of veterans that you know,

467
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Speaker 2: knew what it took to wind and we were going

468
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Speaker 2: to do whatever it took to win. And I just

469
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Speaker 2: don't think he was as prepared for something like that,

470
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Speaker 2: because that could be a very tough place to walk into.

471
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Speaker 2: I remember walking into the Red Sox clubhouse for the

472
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Speaker 2: first time. I being like, holy this is this is

473
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Speaker 2: a room full of guys and here's your twenty two

474
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Speaker 2: year old but hanging out in the corner. So I

475
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Speaker 2: can imagine how overwhelming that must be when you're looking

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Speaker 2: around at you know, not only guys that you came

477
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Speaker 2: up in the same farm system, but you had guys like,

478
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Speaker 2: you know, Verlander was there, guys like Zach Greeky was,

479
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 2: Cole was like just names upon names upon names, and

480
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Speaker 2: so that that could be pretty intimidating for a young

481
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Speaker 2: kid to come in. So I can feel like that's

482
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Speaker 2: probably one thing that's changed for him.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to bring up bad memories, but that

484
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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen Astros team, Like I'll I'll just go back

485
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Speaker 1: and look at the Baseball Reference page sometimes and like

486
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Speaker 1: they'll they'll have screenshots every now and then of the

487
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Speaker 1: lineups from the World Series when like Korea is hitting eighth,

488
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Speaker 1: like Jordan was hitting like seventh. Like I mean it

489
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Speaker 1: that that collection of talent in that room and that rotation,

490
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Speaker 1: A lot of people don't a lot of people forget that,

491
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Speaker 1: Like Wade Miley for five months, was like the fourth

492
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Speaker 1: best starter in baseball.

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Speaker 2: Best picture, Yep, he was.

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Speaker 1: Like, yes, he was. Hands he was the one of

495
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Speaker 1: the astros best pictures on a staff that included Verlander,

496
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Speaker 1: Grinky and cole Land and young Gooding. That to come

497
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Speaker 1: up on that team and Reddick and read you know this, Like,

498
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Speaker 1: Kyle is not the most energetic guy. He's not the most,

499
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Speaker 1: certainly not the most. He doesn't show a ton of emotion,

500
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Speaker 1: doesn't really put himself out there. He's very introverted. I

501
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: gotta imagine coming into that team just a behemoth, a machine,

502
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Speaker 1: and with the expectations on him, I have to imagine

503
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Speaker 1: how that had to have been difficult for him.

504
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, with that, can you imagine? Anyway, was

505
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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, He was about twenty three, twenty three, twenty four,

506
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Speaker 2: Like most kids aren't even in the big leagues at

507
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Speaker 2: that point, much less playing on a contending team and

508
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Speaker 2: playing on quite possibly one of the top five teams

509
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Speaker 2: in the history of baseball. So to just to think

510
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: about that as no matter what age you are, is

511
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Speaker 2: beyond belief. But to be able to experience that and

512
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Speaker 2: comeing and witness that kind of stuff every day I

513
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Speaker 2: can't imagine the emotions to go through. And that's probably

514
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Speaker 2: the best time to probably be one of the more

515
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Speaker 2: introverted guys, is to just step back and just watch

516
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Speaker 2: it happen, and you know, when you're called upon, get

517
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Speaker 2: in there and do your things. So and he did

518
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Speaker 2: a good job with it. You know, we had a

519
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Speaker 2: great group of out fielders, you know, between Springer and

520
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 2: Brantley and Jake and you know, tough to me, we

521
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: had everything. We had all the guy right guys to

522
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Speaker 2: take him out and not we know, because hazing isn't

523
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Speaker 2: what it is anymore in baseball. So I think that's

524
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Speaker 2: that's one thing that helps because when I came up,

525
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Speaker 2: it was a completely different ballgame, so to speak. But

526
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Speaker 2: we're not allowed to talk about stuff that happened. But

527
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Speaker 2: I think that helps too, because you don't have to

528
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Speaker 2: worry about getting you know, bombarded with craziness and you're

529
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Speaker 2: just you're just there to win. I think that does

530
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Speaker 2: make it a little easier. But when you look at

531
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Speaker 2: it and you know, it all starts when you get

532
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Speaker 2: to the ballpark, you pull into the parking garage and

533
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Speaker 2: you know, and you're little, you know, when you first

534
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 2: come up and you're pulling in in like you're two

535
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Speaker 2: thousand and five, slightly useder differently new, and you got Ferrari, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Lamborghini, Mercedie,

536
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Speaker 2: like just lines of cars that are just phenomenally expensive

537
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 2: and you're like, wow, this is this is pretty cool.

538
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Speaker 2: As I'm pulling in my Toyota camer and park down

539
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Speaker 2: here then. So definitely overwhelming from from the moment you

540
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Speaker 2: get there to the to the high fives after the game.

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Speaker 3: So you you can keep this one in your back pocket.

542
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 3: I wrote for Baseball Perspectus in twenty nineteen. Uh, there

543
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Speaker 3: was a forty five game stretch that that twenty nineteen

544
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 3: Astros offense had that was the best stretch of any

545
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Speaker 3: offense ever. And the two underneath it were the twenty

546
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 3: seven Yankees and the ninety eight Yankees. Yeah, yeah, win streak. Yeah,

547
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 3: it was ridiculous. It was literally the best offense in

548
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Speaker 3: baseball history over the forty five.

549
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Speaker 2: Games stretch too. I remember that stretch.

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Speaker 1: When weren't you guys hot that I mean, like you

551
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Speaker 1: guys won one hundred and six games like it.

552
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Speaker 2: Was I met me personally, but yeah, you're right, we

553
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 2: were We were not hot, not a whole lot, but

554
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Speaker 2: I met me personally. I remember me and Korea being

555
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Speaker 2: very hot for that yeap that month, and I remember

556
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Speaker 2: Springer being absolutely dog poop and I never, I'll never

557
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 2: really forget it, because he went through like a four

558
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 2: through four for like one hundred and three strip yep

559
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: lead off and hit leadoff every day. If I went

560
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Speaker 2: four for one hundred on any team, I'd have gotten released.

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Speaker 1: Certainly didn't help either that when Kyle Tucker came into

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Speaker 1: that clubhouse on draft night, I don't know, I'm sure

563
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: you guys gave him crap for this, but remember draft

564
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Speaker 1: night when Kyle Tucker was drafted, they compared him to

565
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Speaker 1: Ted Williams.

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, oh yeah he had draft. What draft was he?

567
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Speaker 1: He was the same draft as Bregmant. He was fifteen draft.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so the so I wasn't there when they brought

569
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Speaker 2: him in, right, but yeah, we called we caught him Ted,

570
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Speaker 2: even when I was there. Yeah, because yeah, his his

571
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Speaker 2: tall lankiness was exactly and his finish, his finish was

572
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Speaker 2: that ugly rollover with your hands. He twisted like this. Yeah, no,

573
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Speaker 2: we we remember. And then he had that one and

574
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Speaker 2: another good one that nobody really knew it as we

575
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 2: caught him the pin because you look like a bowling

576
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Speaker 2: pin when he put his feet together. His body was

577
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: proportioned up to where you looked like a bowling pin.

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Speaker 1: So okay, was that the I do remember they started

579
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Speaker 1: doing an outfield celebration. I don't know if it was

580
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Speaker 1: that year going on when, So that was a bowling

581
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Speaker 1: pin one. I never knew the origin of that.

582
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Speaker 2: There we go because Miles Miles Straw was the one

583
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Speaker 2: who kind of brought it up, brought brought about it,

584
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 2: and then I was like, dude, in touch in the game,

585
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 2: that's gonna be our winning dance for everybody. So it

586
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Speaker 2: all became a little funny, fun running joke against Tucker.

587
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Speaker 1: And if you if there's one dude that can take it,

588
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: it's Kyle Tucker. I mean again, one of the just happy,

589
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: go lucky, lets everything roll off of him, never took

590
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: it seriously, Like is probably the most certainly not underrated.

591
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Speaker 1: I mean we're all talking about how great he is,

592
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Speaker 1: but kind of the most you know, the superstar that

593
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Speaker 1: maybe doesn't want to be. He he just so avoids

594
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: the spotlight, doesn't want me on him, but it just

595
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: kind of comes because he's.

596
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Speaker 2: That good, and he's a horrible interview.

597
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: He got better, I will get I'll give him credit.

598
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 2: He got better when he tough.

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Speaker 1: It was a it was a chore when he first

600
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Speaker 1: came up, it was like a couple of sentence responses.

601
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Speaker 2: And but it's not as him. Most of that team

602
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: last year was awful in interviews. I will I will

603
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Speaker 2: say that.

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Speaker 1: Now you see now you're you're on the dark side now,

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Speaker 1: so now you're getting to feel my pain. You're getting

606
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Speaker 1: to feel my pain.

607
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Speaker 2: It makes me, it just makes me realize how blessed

608
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Speaker 2: you guys were to have somebody like me talking to

609
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Speaker 2: one one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: And that twenty nineteen team had its fair share of

611
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: great quotes on it. Garrett, Garrett Cole was and you know,

612
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: justin Verlander, I mean justin Verlanders throughout his career was

613
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: a great interview. But Garrett Cole was excellent. I mean

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Speaker 1: it was Joh, I mean, Josh, you were I don't

615
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: know if we gave you the BBW a Good Guy Award.

616
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: We should have. If we didn't, I'm gonna I'm gonna

617
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Speaker 1: call for a revote. I'm gonna call for a revote.

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Speaker 2: That's Chanla. That's why I'm mister irrelevant man. When I'm

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Speaker 2: in the room, especially in that room, I just hang

620
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Speaker 2: out in the corner. Baby.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're you're not mister irrelevant anymore, because we've got

622
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: you on Crush City Territory, which is going to become

623
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: which is going to quickly become America's favorite astrois podcast

624
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: because we've got you, Uh, We've got you breaking things

625
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: down for us, and we appreciate uh for your debut.

626
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: We appreciate you coming back, giving giving people a little

627
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: bit of what you've been up to and certainly telling us,

628
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: you know, kind of giving us an insight that that

629
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Speaker 1: we can't provide because look, I'm I'm in the clubhouse

630
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: every day, but they kicked me out after an hour.

631
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: So Tyler, I mean, Tyler watches every game. But there's

632
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: only there's only so much we can we can glean

633
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: from this, and getting your perspective on all this is

634
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Speaker 1: really really really appreciated. We look forward to doing it

635
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: h many more times. Like we've told you guys, twice

636
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: a week in the off season, three times a week

637
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: during the regular season. Josh will be with us at

638
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: least one time each week. As we go forth, we'll

639
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: watch the astros together, we'll analyze what's going on. We'll

640
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: see if this club can keep it going. Josh, you

641
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: certainly were an integral part of this thing, of this dynasty,

642
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: kind of this ascension into a dynasty. We'll see if

643
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: these guys can keep it going. So, until next time,

644
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Speaker 1: thank you everybody for tuning in again. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: thanks again. We will see you and talk to you

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