WEBVTT - Beating The Book: 2023 NFL Betting Preview 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:09.200 Take it Down Man, No Down. 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:12.520 Man Friday at the first twenty twenty three. It is 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:17.520 the Beating the Book podcast and the FL Betting Preview 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:20.240 live from the d Our New Hope. We just did 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:22.439 our last show. By the way, Kelly Bidlin to my 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:25.800 right here at the d at Bar, Canada. Matt Brown 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:30.280 joining us VSA's own Matt Brown. It's the Primetime Action Crew. 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:32.720 The band is back together for an NFL preview. 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:35.960 Reunited and it feels so good. 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:40.120 Name the group, No idea, Come on, no idea, it's 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:41.360 a duo. I don't know. 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:43.360 Matt mac got angry at me the other day for 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:45.880 another song reference Peaches a Herb. 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:49.360 Sure, Peaches a Herb are two people. 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:51.479 Peaches is the girl Herbs the guy. 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:56.240 Quite quite possibly the worst rendition of that song I've 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:57.840 ever heard, and I've heard some really bad one. 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:01.560 Well, all right, Well, off with the bang here Gil. 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:06.000 The tennis pods and the baseball pods are things that 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:07.839 we do during the off season, but it's all about 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:11.800 the NFL. The megapod will begin this coming Thursday, which 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:14.399 I do with Todd Wish, Deem, Jeff Pearls and rotating guests. 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:15.840 Matt has been kind enough to come on that show. 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:17.440 We'll have to get Kelly on that show this year 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:20.800 as well. And then Guessing Lines our tenth season with 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:23.759 Chrissy begins the following Monday for week number two. That's 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:27.280 the standard football podcast schedule here beating the book, but 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:30.000 NFL prev before that from the d with these two gentlemen. 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:32.720 Thanks for doing this, guys, I appreciate it very much. 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:35.600 It's a Friday morning and it's raining outside. What better 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:37.120 thing to do than talk football? Can you think of 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:38.000 anything that's right? 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:40.679 I cannot not pickleball in the rain, that's for sure. 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:43.800 Yeah, I just don't find it interesting. I know you 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:45.960 love pickleball. You're still playing as much as you used to? 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:46.759 Are you still? Are you still? 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:47.880 I'm not? 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:48.360 Okay? 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:49.840 So I'm trying to get good at the golf. I'm 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:52.640 trying to get good at the golf. So that takes 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:53.800 a lot of time, by the. 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:56.400 Way, a lot before we get into football. We may 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:58.880 have broker to deal. I just want to suggest this 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:01.279 for everybody who listens to Primetime Action in the past 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:04.600 and know that people that know that Matt Brown has 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:06.720 not kicked to this field goal or this field goal, 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:09.640 two field goals, two field goals that he was supposed 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:11.560 to do two years ago and still hasn't done it 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:14.160 as a result of a bed at least two years ago. Matt, 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:16.240 what is the deal you are brokering with Kelly? 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:20.120 This is now all on Kelly's plate. This is all 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:21.959 we have to do. I will go and I will 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:25.200 do the kicks. But in return, all I need is 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:28.040 for our friend, the bearded one, Kelly Bidlin, to agree 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:30.880 to go get spray fan. I just I wanted to 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.799 get spray tanned. I want to he looks like spray tann. Okay, 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:35.320 and we're going to get these kicks out. 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:35.560 Of the way. 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:37.680 And the kicks, just for those who don't know, are 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:38.760 what did you agree to do? 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:40.160 Five? 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.320 I have five opportunities to make a forty yarder right footed, 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:47.119 and I have three opportunities to make a twenty one 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:48.239 yarder left footing. 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:51.880 Okay, you're crazy, first of all. And two this came 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:55.239 up because we were watching college football while Primetime Action 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:57.920 was on and somebody missed an easy kick and Matt's like, 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:00.200 I can do that, and you were like, and you 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:00.920 called him on that? 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:03.919 Yes, no, no, no, they passed on the kick. 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:06.440 Remember because their kicker got hurt, oh right, and they 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:10.519 passed on They passed on go on kicking the field 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:13.000 goal a twenty one yarder and instead decided to go 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:14.920 for it on like fourth and fourteen or something. And 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:17.200 I'm like, cand the punter really not make a twenty 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:21.000 one yard field and that's what it was, and that's yeah, 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:22.560 And then that's how it all came came to me. 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:24.160 And here we are two years later, we seven see 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:24.440 a kick. 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:26.400 Yeah, but I have some conditions for this skill. I 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:27.240 have some conditions. 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:29.800 I won an odds boost on my no on the 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:31.920 twenty one and a half yard or with the left foot, 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:33.880 because there's no way that's getting home. And I know 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:36.440 all the action has been on the nose so far 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:38.320 of this, so I want an odds boost on that. 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:41.920 And then Matt better be accompanying me to whatever taming 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:44.160 salon or whatever that we're going to, because I've never 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:45.960 been to one in my life. 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:48.400 I'll be in the booth with you, buddy. Yeah, I'll 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:50.200 be in the booth with you. Don't don't worry about that. 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:51.280 I'll be in there with you. 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:53.640 This took a turn, and then we need a camera obviously, 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:55.560 so so Isaiah's bringing a camera and Mike. 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:57.080 So that's what's going to happen, all right, So that's 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:57.800 the way NFL. 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:01.640 That's where that stands. We are six days away from 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:05.360 the beginning of the NFL season, finally, finally the Lions 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:09.400 of the Chiefs first Thursday night football game, and I debated, like, Okay, 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:11.760 how do I want to start a NFL betting preview 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:13.920 this close to the season. Let's start with a question 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:16.240 that I've asked. Kelly knows this on a numbers game 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:19.000 more often than than not with every guest, which is 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:22.400 and Matt will start with you, what is your most 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:29.440 off market, off consensus viewpoint of this season backed by 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:29.920 a bet. 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:34.880 I mean, I guess that it's kind of sort of 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:38.040 at least adjacent to all of this. Mine is that 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.039 I think the forty nine ers have a real chance 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:43.440 to be like mediocre this season, and I'm kind of 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:45.600 backed that up just by a Seahawks future. 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:46.240 I have. 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:48.719 I have a Seahawks to win that division. I have 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:50.680 a Pete Carroll to win Coach of the Year. I 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.640 have different things like that. I mean, for me, I 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:57.000 understand it is a loaded roster on both sides, of all, 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:58.680 I do get all of that, but it is still 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:01.440 the most important position in all of the NFL, and 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:03.800 that's the quarterback position. And I don't have a ton 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.120 of confidence that Brock Party is going to be able 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:07.840 to replicate what we saw last year. I mean, this 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:09.760 is a guy that wasn't even supposed to. 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:10.520 Be on the team. 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:12.200 Really, I mean, like when you're drafted that like, you're 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:13.320 not even supposed to be on the team. You're not 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:14.680 supposed to make the roster, You're supposed to be on 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:17.520 the practice squad. So teams didn't have any game plan 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:19.320 for this dude. They didn't have any tape on this guy. 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:21.880 They were not familiar in the least bit with Brock Party. 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.479 And I guarantee you as we head into this season, 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:27.320 they're very familiar with brock Party now in any tendencies 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:29.560 that he may have shown in college or anything that 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.280 he was doing during last season that was working, that 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:34.839 that has been figured out at this point. And so 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:37.760 I am a bit skeptical that brock Party is going 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:39.640 to be able to replicate what we saw last year, 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.000 And in turn, I think that that could have this 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:45.160 team being far, like far far under expectation. 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:47.800 And with that, I'm back in the Seahawks in that division. 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.600 So Matt, real quick, does that mean you don't do 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:51.599 you think they should have. 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:52.480 Dealt Trey Lance? 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:56.760 I actually thought they didn't have a good option in general, right, 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:58.599 I mean, like I don't think. I mean, I think 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:01.240 it's just a bad kind of trio and they went 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:02.159 with what they feel is. 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:03.840 You know, you go with what's most comfortable, right. 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:05.760 The guy came in and he played decent last season, 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:07.920 so they're gonna go with with what worked for him. 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:09.640 But yeah, I mean it's a for me. 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:12.240 I like, I really like what Seattle brings to the 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:14.480 table anyway. And then couple that with the fact that 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:16.000 I think that the forty nine ers would be down 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:18.000 a little bit. So I think that's the most controversial decision, 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:20.680 especially considering the Niners are what third or fourth when 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:22.000 it comes to to Super Bowl odds? 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:24.520 Sure, what did you get the Seahawks to win the 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:25.520 division at one number? 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:27.520 Yeah? So it's like, way way early. 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:29.320 I was talking to Kelly about this like a couple 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:31.000 of weeks ago, So I mean I got an absurd 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:33.120 number like four seventy five or something like that, But 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:35.880 it was like, right, when they first opened and all that. So, 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:37.800 I mean at the current number, I don't know if 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:39.280 I would be loving it as much because I think 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.200 it's down to like one ninety now or something one 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:42.479 ninety five than that. 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:46.680 Yeah, it's not so off market now. I the one thing, 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:48.400 and I no one loved the Niners more than I 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:50.160 did last year. I backed it up with bets and 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:53.919 obviously the uh, the the actual you know disaster that 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:55.880 was the playoff game where Perdy got hurt and that 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:59.280 Josh Johnson got hurt. I will say this, even even 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:01.320 through his undefeat, did stretch seven and zero down the 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:05.599 stretch with brock Purty mystery relevant. He threw so many 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:09.760 passes that should have been picked. We Todd Wisham and 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:11.720 I call it, you know, the football equivalent. It's just 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:15.600 a babit. Oh yeah, we call what interceptions that should 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:18.280 have happened. I think Pro Football Focus backs this up 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:21.760 with actual numbers that he threw. Yes, is that right, Matt, Yes, 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:26.080 turnover worthy plays, turnover worthy place itch, Yeah, interceptions that 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:29.520 should have happened. So and we'll see, we'll see. 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.400 That Seahawks number by real quick has swung back up 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:33.920 it and is plus two thirty over a draft over 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:36.280 at Draftking, so maybe a little bit more back into 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:37.320 beedible ranger. 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:38.960 People before before he gets a Kelly's answer to this 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:44.240 question how many teams? Because because it then calls to mind, okay, 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:46.560 how many good teams are there actually in the NFC, 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.120 which will be a theme of this, which is obviously 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:54.920 the Eagles, Niners, Cowboys. I guess in some order, if 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:58.440 I if I took away those three teams, who's the 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:00.240 next best team in the NFC? I guess you would 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:00.960 say the Seahawks. 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:04.800 Then I would say the Seahawks. But then after the Seahawks, 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.840 I think if there's a precipitous drop off like at 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:11.160 that point, like it wouldn't surprise me at all. If 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.280 and I'm being serious and I'm even including the Bucks 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:14.960 in this conversation, like it wouldn't be surprised me if 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.040 any of the four teams won the NFC South, right, 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:17.600 like at all? 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.080 That Like that wouldn't surprise me at all. If you 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:20.920 look in the East. 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:24.160 If you told me that the Giants under day ball 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:27.720 and bringing in Waller and like having happy and healthy 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:31.640 Danny Dimes and Saquon Barkley, if they got the playoffs again. 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:33.440 Like I mean, I think there's a lot of this 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:36.480 stuff where I wouldn't be surprised in the NFC at all. 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:38.160 But I think there's a pretty big drop off from 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:40.040 that point as far as confidence level anyway. 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:41.520 Because Kelly and I have talked about this at varying 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:44.559 points during a numbers game, which is when people are 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:48.600 considering yes, no playoff bets. The AFC is obviously stacked, 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:51.439 but the NFC, no matter how you slice it, I 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:53.120 guess the one team we can throw to the side 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:55.320 is Arizona. They're the one team that you couldn't you 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:57.960 couldn't justify a yes bet on. But for the other 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:01.800 fifteen teams, if you said you were going to bet 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:04.160 them yes to make the playoffs, like I couldn't laugh 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:06.240 at you, right, because there's a path for all of them. 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.360 I think I'm there on the RAMS these days too. 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:10.199 I don't think I could better. 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:14.719 Yes, I might be with you too, Yeah, yeah, I 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:17.040 think the RAMS might end up being kind of fire 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:19.520 sale territory as we get to towards the trade deadline, 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:21.920 they need to break it down to build it back up. 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:24.160 So but outside of that, I agree with this with 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:25.600 the statement that you just said, like any of these 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:29.240 other teams, could you know, again, could Jordan Love actually 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:30.240 be good the Packers? 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:33.840 He could? Could Could this hype around the Bears and 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:35.800 all that be true? It could? You know? 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:37.520 And listen, I don't think that it's out of the 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:41.040 realm of possibility for the Commanders to to, you know, 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:44.280 find something under Sam Hall and those skilled position players 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:44.720 that they have. 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:45.200 And listen. 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:47.160 Yeah, there's gonna be some regression to the meme, but 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:48.720 are we really sitting here going to say that the 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:51.560 Vikings can't make the playoffs and out of the NFC North. 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:54.600 I mean, like, you know, it's this, this, These are 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.520 such great points. That Vikings point is great because it 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:01.640 does become like sports casting one oh one for people 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:03.920 to immediately say, oh my god, they won so many 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.679 close games, and then the next the way that our 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.160 brains are wired. The next thought means, so therefore the 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:12.000 pendulum must swing completely to the other end, right, and 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.280 there's no guarantee of that happening none at all. We 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:16.880 say this for baseball pitchers or whatever. It might regress 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:18.280 some it doesn't mean that it's going to go the 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:21.520 completely opposite way. So I'm totally with you on that. 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:24.360 The uh, I think Sam Howell might actually be really good. 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:26.120 And the Jordan Love point, which I've made a million 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:28.040 times on the radio side, but I haven't on this 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:31.840 podcast obviously. The summer is Kelly's sick and tired of 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:36.200 hearing this. When we were kids, these quarterbacks got to 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.480 hold the clipboard, as we used to say, for years, 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:40.680 and when they got to hold the clipboard under the 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:44.360 same coaching staff. And I'll use Washington again as my 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:46.040 favorite example because that's the one I grew up on. 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:48.440 If you got to do that more often than not, 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:50.520 you turned out really good. Mark Rippen did that. He 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:53.200 ended up being a Super Bowl MVP. Stan Humphries ended 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:54.679 up doing that. He ended up going to the Super 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:57.600 Bowl with the Chargers quarterbacking them there. Trent Green held 0:10:57.640 --> 0:10:59.920 one for years, he ended up who knows if it 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:02.080 for his injury. Maybe he runs the Greatest Show on 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:06.199 Turf instead of Kurt Warner. So Jordan Love might actually 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:09.320 end up really good because he's been under the same 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:12.880 coaching staff, he's been under the tutelage of a Hall 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:16.280 of Famer, and for Packers bets, the way that I 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:17.960 chose to do it. We'll get to I didn't mean 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:19.880 to get to this first, but I ended up betting 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:22.080 them by proxy with Matt Lafleur's Coach of the Year 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:25.320 at almost sixteen to one, because I figured if they're 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:29.520 any good, that's maybe the path to take. He's pretty 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:31.160 much a good call for Coach of the Year. 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:33.559 Yeah, and I think I should probably be adding on 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:35.680 to that one because the way that I chose to 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:37.200 bet that, And I think you could think the same 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:39.520 way in the NFC South too, Matt. 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:41.719 I think we you and I have discussed this a 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:42.520 little bit, but the. 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:45.280 Like I did a small bet on the Packers to 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:48.160 win the division because Jordan loves such an unknown, right, 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:50.640 I do think there is a I think this is 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:52.720 a team that can have a pretty high ceiling, but like, 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:55.680 if he sucks, this floor could be pretty low, right, 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.080 So I'd rather take a swing on it on a 0:11:58.240 --> 0:11:59.840 just for them to win the division when I do 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:02.320 think the division is more up for grabs than what 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:05.000 the odds indicate, more so than betting one of those 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:07.400 yes yes to make the playoffs, right, I do think 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:10.400 there is a reality where they missed the playoffs completely. 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:12.760 So I think that's a way to think about it. 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:15.280 NFC North end, NFC South a little bit. And if 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:16.880 you could tie in, yeah, a Coach of the Year 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:18.800 or something like that, I think that's a great way. 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.080 Are we comfortable with hill distance between us? Are we 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:22.439 liking this? We like this distance? 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:24.080 Well, we'll have to see you on Monday when I 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:25.400 have to start talking to the crew too. 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:30.040 But yeah, justil to put a bow on your point, right. 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:32.760 It's like, and we actually mentioned this back in the 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:35.640 primetime Action Days whatever. It's like Joe Burrow and Justin 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:39.440 Herbert broke our thinking about quarterbacks as young guys like 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.840 they So everyone thinks you're just supposed to step in 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:44.480 and be all pro and like basically start, you know, 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:46.160 getting the bus ready for the Hall of Fame. And 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:48.520 it's like, that's just not how it used to happen, right, 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:50.880 It's not how it used to work. And you look 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:53.920 at some of these guys, and certainly the packers' organization 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:56.400 thought enough of Jordan Love to trade back up into 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:58.280 the first round to come get this dude. And yeah, 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:00.640 they still had Aaron Rodgers, so they're not gonna have 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:02.880 They're gonna play him over Aaron Rodgers. But I mean, 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:05.800 you still have an asset here that they that they value. 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:08.840 So to think that he can't be a good quarterback 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.839 just because he didn't play immediately is pretty wild. And 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.000 listen and even the Sam House situation, right, I mean, 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:17.160 like he he is a guy that was highly thought of. 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:18.320 It just had a down seat. 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.200 He had a down season, you know, in his last 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:22.600 season in college. But had he come out the year before, 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:25.040 he would have been a borderline first rounder. So I mean, like, 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:27.520 there are these guys that it's just because they didn't 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:30.320 start immediately and play immediately and go out and wow 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:33.319 everybody immediately, that does not mean that they can't have 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:34.800 success in in the NFL. 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:38.079 Totally totally agree. We Uh, we tend to be a 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:42.840 pretty reactionary, pretty short term, reactionary kind of uh sports fan, 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:45.920 you know, group of people to begin with as American 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:48.400 sports fans and as betters. That'll get you in trouble. 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:50.520 Uh. 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:52.320 The same question for you, Kelly, what what do you 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:55.040 believe is the bet that you have that is the 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:57.880 most off consensus, the most contrarian if. 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:01.480 You well, according to the the vs In NFL Betting Guide, 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:04.120 where I'm heads up on this bet with. 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:05.520 With multiple people, with everybody. 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:08.240 I guess, I guess it's the Steelers under nine wins 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:10.800 where I am under nine on Steelers. 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:12.960 Are you aware of any Steelers stats that I might 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:13.920 be able to share with you? No? 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:14.520 What you got? 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:17.840 I am told that Mike Tomlin has never had a 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:18.520 losing season. 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:20.360 Oh never mind, let's just said at this Poddle leaf 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:23.600 net right, I'm going to guess, and look, do I 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:26.120 think the Steelers. There's so much of this And this 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:28.440 is why you led with the NFC conversation with the yes, 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:32.240 no playoffs, because whether you could find one, two, three 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:34.720 teams in the NFC where you could get a nice 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.520 plus price on making the playoffs that we know we're 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:40.480 gonna hit, we just don't know which teams they are, right, Okay, 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:43.800 the AFC's jam packed. This is this is not so 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:46.800 much a complete fate of the Steelers, of more of 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:49.200 this the reality of what is this conference and what 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:51.440 is that division? And yes, I am a guy who 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:53.960 is my opinion hasn't changed at all. In the Bengals, 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:55.600 I think they're gonna be right there competing for a 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:57.800 Super Bowl this year. And I think the Ravens are 0:14:57.800 --> 0:14:59.480 gonna be better, and I think the Browns are gonna 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:01.840 be better. So the they're stuck in the division where 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.160 I just think by default they're gonna be coming in 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:07.080 last place, and ask them to get a get not 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:09.040 only to a winning season, because at least I've got 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:11.800 that nine as a push, not only get to a winnings, 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:14.240 to get that ten wins for me to get beat, 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:16.160 for them to go ten and seven, I think is 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:18.640 asking a lot for a team that, Yes, do I 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:20.360 expect them to be better to I expect can you 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:22.440 pigot Naji G Harrison these guys to get a little 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:23.000 bit better? 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:25.200 Yes, I just think we're asking. 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:27.280 A ton of this team to hit that ten win 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:30.240 mork in this division and in this conference in which 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:34.080 they play. And so that is my most contrarian bet 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:34.440 for sure. 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:37.560 I'm gonna go now with mine. As I'm about to 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:40.000 spit it out, I'm realizing I'm contradicting myself in a 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:41.680 little way because I just got through talking about how 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:44.200 the Vikings doesn't mean that all of those close wins 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.200 is gonna immediately turn into they're gonna lose all those 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:51.560 I'm alternate low regular season win total on the Giants. 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:53.440 I bet under six and a half at plus one 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:57.760 eighty five. And part of my thinking is contrary to 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:00.240 what I just said about the Vikings, is they aid 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:03.720 so well between you know, in the red zone last year, 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.440 both offensively and defensively. Between the twenties they were got awful, 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:11.880 especially on defense, but they were absolutely balls out great 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:15.360 in high leverage situations that allowed them quite frankly, I 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:17.680 think Brian Dabole won a Coach of the Year award 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:21.000 largely based on those high leverage situations for the Giants, 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:22.200 and they were able to win a lot of them. 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:23.720 By the way, they were eight and four in one 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:26.720 score games. So even if you say, okay, well maybe 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:29.440 that goes to six and six, whatever it is, it 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:33.160 was really their performance on the field for most of 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:34.600 that You when they when they went out to the 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:36.480 seven and one record, I believe it was seven and one. 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.760 That's what their hallmark was. So, you know, does that 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:43.320 happen is it? Does that mean that it's gonna change 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:45.880 this year? I believe it will to some degree, and 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:48.600 I think with their schedule there is a path where 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:51.120 this really goes bad for them early. It's not quite 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:53.800 as bad as the Jets early schedule, which is just 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.320 the gauntlet of all gauntlets early in the year. But 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:59.120 I got the Giants alternate low regular season win total 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.240 here at circa understand and a half plus one eighty five, 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:04.439 And I think that's as contrarian as I get in 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:07.040 terms of my preseason. Are there any picks? Are there 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:11.159 any bets you've made, Matt, that you've that you've made, 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:13.720 and you're already having doubts about. 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:20.320 Uh not really Like I so, I mean a couple 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:22.920 of minor are fairly chalky that I got in there. 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:25.719 I mean, Eagles to win the East, Jags to win 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:27.879 the South, you know, like like I've got that stuff 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:30.880 in there. I did go in pretty hard, I guess 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:33.199 early on the Vikings to win the NFC North. And 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:34.919 maybe if that was one that's in the account that 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:39.680 maybe I'm questioning just a tad But honestly, I'm I'm 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:41.480 not like buying in that, like this is just the 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:43.760 Lions Division, no matter what, right I'm I'm not kind 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:45.560 of like, I'm not like getting there on that, Like 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:47.600 it seems like everybody wants to just hand this over 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:50.000 to Dan Campbell and and this Lions team, and like 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:51.800 I guess, Gil, you and I are old enough to 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.720 remember that their quarterback is still Jared Goff. Yeah, like one, 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.919 and like one good season isn't gonna like make me 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:01.119 just like completely forget about the other terrible seasons with 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:03.600 Jared Goff and all his bad decision making and all 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:06.119 the stuff that he's done along the way. So I 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:07.920 have the Vikings for the North, and it was a 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:09.479 little bit of a price play. I just thought it 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:11.679 was a little absurd that the Viking that the Lions 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:14.639 were just so heavily favored in that division. So I 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:16.159 don't know, I mean, I guess maybe that one, but 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:18.520 I don't have a ton that I'm really regretting. 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:20.800 Well, that's good. Let me just seizon the Jaguars one, 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:22.600 because I know Kelly has that as well. The Jags 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:24.720 to win the AFC South, and you guys obviously got 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:27.800 better numbers than exist now. But for those listening and 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:30.679 are like, oh wait, how high, Like what would you 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:33.280 lay on that? Because they're obviously in a division with 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:37.560 the Texans, with the Titans, with the Colts, and obviously 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:40.399 the Colts have had an off season drama with Jonathan Taylor. 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:42.720 He's at least out for the first four weeks, if 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:45.879 not more, they appear. I mean, we talk about, Okay, 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:49.160 in the NFC, it's you know, whatever order you like, Eagles, Niners. 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:51.159 Maybe you throw in the Cowboys, maybe you throw in 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:58.200 the s AFC Chiefs, Bills, obviously the Bengals at the top, 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:00.280 and then you'll throw in the Charges. This is the 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:03.199 year where Kelly actually is going is making Chargers bets 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:07.760 to say that, guys, But like, the Jags actually have 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:10.879 this path as much as you think, and the Jags 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:13.480 aren't in that tier. They're in such an easy division, 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:16.920 which is obviously six games right there, and then they 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:18.680 have you know, it's one of the easier schedules in 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:22.040 the NFL. Couldn't they end up? Like if I came 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:23.080 to you at the end of the season for the 0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:24.520 future and I said, guess what the Jags had the 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:28.359 best record in the NFL, would you think I'm I'm ridiculous. 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:30.320 Yeah, absolutely, it could happen. 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:33.479 There is a minus. There are minus one fifty fives available. 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:35.520 There's it's minus one fifty five still in draft kings 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:38.000 right now. That that's about a sixty percent, right, sixty 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:40.119 sixty one is sixty two so like whatever sixty is 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:43.280 percentage something like that for them to win. I think 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:45.680 they win this sixty percent of the time very very 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:47.879 very often. I think they win this like seventy percent 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:50.000 of the time very often. So I think the minus 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:53.120 one fifty five is still it's still a really good 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:56.040 number on this team, because again, if the only threat 0:19:56.320 --> 0:19:59.320 is the Titans, and I think we can all comfortably 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:01.240 feel like the own threat is going to be the Titans, 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:03.399 there's going to be some growing pains for Anthony Richardson. 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:06.879 We know that this Texas team, while not completely devoid 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:09.359 of talent, it's a lot of young dudes, right Like, 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:11.919 so they'll probably be decent next year and maybe that 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:14.560 third year of CJ. Stroud they can actually kind of 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:16.080 look and try to get into the playoffs. 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:17.480 But it's not going to be this year. 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:20.200 And so if the only threat is the Titans, they 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:24.280 have absolutely no financial commitment to Ryan Tannehill after this season. 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:26.520 If they look up and this team is like it's 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:28.280 kind of like coming off the rails a little bit. 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:30.760 Why wouldn't you go to Will Levis You already you 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:31.880 drafted him in the second round. 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:33.760 Why wouldn't you like make a switch. 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:35.560 And like go ahead, and and if that's the case, 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:37.760 then he's gonna have growing pains in those final five 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:40.119 six games of the year whenever they decide to play him, 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:44.119 whatever that might be. Does it go really bad early 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:46.159 on and you realize, hey, we need to break this 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:48.000 down and you try to get whatever you can get 0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:50.920 in return for Derrick Henry. There's just a lot of 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:53.280 ways for this to kind of go south, I think 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:56.280 for this division outside of the Jags, who again are 0:20:56.560 --> 0:20:58.280 going for it, right, I mean we know that for sure, 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:00.719 like this is they're going for this year, and so 0:21:01.119 --> 0:21:04.080 I think one five is still a very bedable number 0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:04.760 for them in the South. 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:07.280 Oh that's a great number. Yeah, fifty five, Yeah, it's not. 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:09.320 I mean, one fifty five still around. I was just trying, 0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:11.320 you know, trying to think what number would I go 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:11.679 up to. 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:13.280 Yeah, I think one's seventy. 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:16.439 What what's seventy you're talking about apply probability of sixty 0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:17.000 three percent. 0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:20.280 I'm with Matt. I think that it's the I think. 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:23.760 There's a sixty five seventy percent chance these this team 0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:26.600 wins that division. It's we look at it a lot. 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:28.960 I look at it a lot like We've talked about 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:31.280 this before sometimes with golf, Matt, where it's it's the 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:33.960 I can cross two teams off almost right away. 0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:36.479 Well, you know with the Texans and with the Colts. 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:39.879 So I'm playing a head to head matchup with the 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:40.960 Tennessee Titans. 0:21:41.000 --> 0:21:42.199 And there are I. 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:44.960 Mean, through the whole list of things that Matt just 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:47.240 talked about, which is yes, a large part of the bet. 0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:48.919 Ryan Tannehill still just sucks. 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:50.719 So, like you know, if they want to have a 0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:53.600 if they want to have a mediocre five hundred team 0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:56.879 and stick together with that core down the stretch, go ahead. 0:21:56.920 --> 0:22:00.000 I still don't think you're beating the Jaguars in that division. 0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:03.680 And look, Jaggs out of divisions, out of division schedule 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:06.280 is not easy, Like you know, they had to make 0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:09.200 that pretty tough with them having won it last year. 0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:11.919 But you pick up at least you pick up a 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:12.840 couple of those wins. 0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:16.000 Man, I think this Jags team that's my favorite bet 0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:18.760 uh so far this offseason is Jackson win that. 0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:20.800 You have one, you regret one. 0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:23.560 I don't know if I'm gonna go regret, but I'm 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:27.480 feeling way way less comfortable about would be my would 0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:29.840 be my small shot on Panthers to win the division 0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:32.399 in the NFC South, because I will say Matt kind 0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:32.919 of hinted on this. 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:36.200 I think early on. I'm coming around a little bit. 0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:38.040 We talked a little bit about this on a numbers 0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:40.600 game yesterday we went through week one lines. I'm coming 0:22:40.640 --> 0:22:43.800 around a little bit on the I think there could 0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:48.200 be some value in betting the Bucks early. And yes, 0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:50.560 is there a chance they trade off some pieces or 0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:53.560 something down the road. Yeah, But if you're gonna hang 0:22:53.600 --> 0:22:56.800 big plus numbers for them early, they still have some 0:22:56.880 --> 0:22:58.960 talent there that that I think I can get the 0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:01.240 job done if I'm getting so I'm catching a touchdown 0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:04.199 plus in games early on. So I'm not betting them 0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:07.800 in the futures market. But I guess maybe the Panthers 0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:09.800 I would have dialed back the bet on a little bit, 0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:10.920 but that would. 0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:11.560 Be the only one. 0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:13.800 And Gil one nice point on the Jags, just like 0:23:13.960 --> 0:23:15.639 their win total sitting at nine and a half, but 0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:17.840 it's juiced to like minus one forty on the over. 0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:20.240 I would just rather play them to win the division 0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:23.280 and pay the extra fifteen cents because like as bad 0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:24.840 as I think the other three teams are going to 0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:27.240 be could they win this division at nine and eight? 0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:31.040 Absolutely right, And so it's only like fifteen more cents 0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:32.119 to get them to win the division. 0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:34.040 I'd rather just go that way than to bet them 0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:34.919 over on the win total. 0:23:36.320 --> 0:23:38.520 Have you bet any awards markets? 0:23:39.040 --> 0:23:39.399 Yeah? 0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:43.720 So I did bet Old Pete Carroll for Coach of 0:23:43.720 --> 0:23:46.119 the Year. And this is just again on my affinity 0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:48.880 I think for the Seahawks team kind of up and down. 0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:50.800 If you look at their roster and what they were 0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:54.360 able to accomplish last year, their roster's better on both 0:23:54.359 --> 0:23:56.359 sides of the ball this year for sure. The addition 0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:58.879 of Jackson Smith and Jigba don't I know, you know, 0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:01.280 because we kind of follow that stuff more heavily. But 0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:03.920 for the people out there that don't follow college football 0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:06.719 as as much as far as talent goes, what this 0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:08.639 guy is going to bring to this offense and what 0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:12.240 he might open up for DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett 0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:14.600 as well, there really is gonna be no excuse on 0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:15.680 the offensive side of the ball. 0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:17.080 Really just going to be on the defense. 0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:20.200 And you look and they it's not the legion of boom, 0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:23.240 but they drafted very very well on defense and they've 0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:26.240 got like some young guys that were really really good 0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:28.200 last year and now they've got a year of experience. 0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:31.480 They go in, they draft Witherspoon at corner, who I 0:24:31.520 --> 0:24:34.040 thought was an absolute stud coming out this year as well. 0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:36.560 I think that this is a I think this is 0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:39.359 a team that can really take that next step. And 0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:41.199 that's what they do in these Coach of the Year awards, 0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:43.840 right It's like that it's the team that really takes 0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:46.920 the next step, like you're never gonna get like it 0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:48.280 would take the a. 0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:50.400 Chiefs or an Eagles or whatever. 0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:52.080 Like they'd have to go sixteen to one or seventeen 0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:54.440 and zero for Andy Reid or to win the Coach 0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:56.320 of the Year because they're expected to do super well. 0:24:56.320 --> 0:24:59.399 It's usually these teams that kind of take that next jump. 0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:01.840 And so like a nine win Seahawks team, if they 0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:04.600 can come out and win eleven or twelve games and 0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:07.160 maybe even win that division over the forty nine ers, 0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:10.080 I think that's gonna put Pete Carroll squarely in the discussion. 0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:12.200 And he's so long gil right now, you can find 0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:16.240 like twenty five, twenty eight, thirty to one, like you 0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:18.480 really only need him to kind of get head to 0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:20.199 head with another coach, and then you can lock in 0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:22.080 a profit no matter what, right. And so it's like 0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:24.480 if you as long as they play it down to 0:25:24.520 --> 0:25:26.800 where it's basically gonna be him and somebody else with 0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:28.480 that long number, you're gonna be able to lock in 0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:30.399 a nice little chunk of change as it is. So 0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:32.800 I do have Pete Carroll in there and feel pretty 0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:33.240 good about it. 0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:35.560 Actually, seventy one year old Pete Carroll. 0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:38.040 By the way, I know, Seahawks Week one was actually 0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:40.520 a bet I was getting ready to make after that 0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:42.600 Cooper Cup news came down yesterday. 0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:45.359 It looks like his reaggravated hamstring injury a. 0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:47.879 Little bit but news coming down today as well, No 0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:50.560 Jabal Adams, he's been already been ruled out for Week one, 0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:54.880 and then Witherspoon hamstring unlikely to play week one as well. 0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:57.199 Just a little bit of Seahawks injury news as I 0:25:57.200 --> 0:25:59.240 saw that earlier today. So I don't know, I'm a 0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:01.240 little bit more wishy on that, but I was getting 0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:03.040 I was finally getting ready to make a week one bet, 0:26:03.080 --> 0:26:04.120 and I saw that come down. 0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:06.360 Kelly and I were doing Week one. We just went 0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:08.560 through each game and I ask a questions on the 0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:10.200 magapot every week, you know, what game do you want 0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:12.280 no part of? Like half the schedule, we want no 0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:13.640 part of Gon Already. 0:26:14.480 --> 0:26:17.320 I take it easy in Week one as it is anyway, 0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:20.720 right because it's kind of like I've taken my positions 0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:23.640 on teams that I really like with typically with preseason 0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:25.800 bets as it is anyway, so like I don't feel 0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:28.040 the need to kind of like immediately rush in and 0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:31.040 double down on like the unknown, like having not seen 0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:33.600 these teams actually play real football yet. So it's like, yeah, 0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:35.600 I've already kind of like taken my position on the 0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:38.400 Jags and taken my position on the Eagles and all 0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:41.439 the things like that, and so I'm okay with with 0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:43.280 kind of you know, I'll have one or two, but 0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:45.119 I probably won't have a very big schedule, I mean 0:26:45.320 --> 0:26:47.480 a very big log there for Week one. 0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:49.800 Do you do contest or Survivor or anything like that? Man, 0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:50.520 do you participate? 0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:51.440 Yeah? 0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:54.000 Yeah, I got one. I do one millions and I 0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:57.520 did three Survivor this year, so I'm gonna do one. 0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:01.400 So I look, the first year I did three different millions, 0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:03.480 and then last year did two, and then I came 0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:05.680 to the conclusion Gil, and this is gonna hurt. 0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:07.840 I don't want to. I don't want to hurt. Yeah, yeah, 0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:08.320 I don't want to. 0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:10.600 I don't want to offend anybody over there at the 0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:12.280 d N Circa and all this and aver like, because 0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:13.960 I know you won't people to have more entries, but 0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:17.000 it's like it's hard enough to find five games every 0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:19.520 week that you actually have any sort of confidence level 0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:21.160 and whatsoever. So like I was like, what the hell 0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:23.720 am I doing with two and three entries in these things? Like, 0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:25.600 oh what further, why am I doing this? 0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:25.840 Yeah? 0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:28.840 When I when I give the thousand dollars for my millions, 0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:31.239 I'm literally like, it's the closest I ever come to 0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:34.239 and here is my donation. But I just it's just 0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:37.640 I there's no way, I mean, five a week, exactly 0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:42.200 what you said, who has naturally five forget leans even 0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:45.199 best bets on a given week? Uh? And Survivor I 0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:47.280 have a sort of contrary and opinion again to your 0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:49.800 point of I apologize to Derek Stevens in advance, but 0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:51.920 you know there's a there's a max of ten now 0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:55.720 in Survivor. Some people even exceed that by being creative. 0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:58.639 I got five last year. I only have five this 0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:01.040 year again because I do believe there's a point of 0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:05.200 redundancy in Survivor. Like I think if you have exponentially 0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:10.240 more more entries, you just play it the same way 0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:13.119 and you just eliminate them faster. So a lot of 0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:14.800 people are like, well, there might be some people listening 0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:16.200 to this who are like, what are you talking about. 0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:18.520 You want to have multiple entries by Thanksgiving? Yes, that 0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:20.960 is the object, But I don't believe it's a function 0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:22.600 of how many you start with. I believe it's a 0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:24.600 function of how you play the game. And so I 0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:30.040 think you're just haphazardly spending more money on random extraneous 0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:32.840 entries in Survivor, and inevitably there was going to be 0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:35.280 two or three people that have multiple entries come Thanksgiving, 0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:37.679 right right, So I don't know, that's my thought on 0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:39.959 that we'll get to. I just want to throw out 0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:42.600 some bets and you can riff on these two Kelly 0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:44.800 after and give yours. I did say I have Matt 0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:46.880 lafleuor Coach of the Year. I believe if Jordan Love 0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:48.640 is good. I believe if the Packers win that division, 0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:52.840 Matt Lafleur looks Roses at the departure of Aaron Rodgers, 0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:57.240 first NFL head coach fired, which was available. I don't 0:28:57.240 --> 0:28:59.600 know if this was a offshore, if this was a circa. 0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:03.080 I went with Matt Eberflus of the Bears at fifteen 0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:05.040 to one because I figure, if it doesn't start well 0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:06.800 for the Bears, and I don't know that it will 0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:09.520 or won't, but if it doesn't, I think the heat 0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:12.920 will come quickly on him if the Justin Fields thing 0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:18.320 doesn't leap off the ground. Last team to record first win. 0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:19.960 I went a little off the grid. This is sort 0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:24.400 of my my NFL draft part. Duh. This was the 0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:27.600 first NFL draft where I got crushed, and much of 0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:31.200 that was They're never gonna draft this short guy number one, 0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:34.760 They're gonna draft CJ. Stroud, and so the Panthers obviously 0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:37.200 did draft Bryce Young and by the way, still short. 0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:39.640 I have last team to record first win the Panthers 0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:41.440 at fifteen to one, because I think there is a 0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:45.560 I think there is a scenario. I'm not I'm not 0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:48.120 buying into it yet. You have some awards and some. 0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:51.360 Props season I have zero awards. Yes, I have props. 0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:54.120 I have zero awards, but just talking about them real quick, 0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:58.080 I think you guys picked the only market that I 0:29:58.080 --> 0:30:01.760 could even consider a bet, and I think that i'd 0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:03.720 probably and I might end up doing to splashing a 0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:07.080 little either, you know, either with the Packers were with 0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:09.160 the Seahawks Coach of the Year. I think you guys 0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:11.440 are thinking the right way. The other one I wanted 0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:13.520 to turn the turners around with you guys on though, 0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:17.200 do you have any feel or even a lean when 0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:21.120 it comes to MVP, Offensive Player of the Year, Defensive 0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:23.480 Player of the Year, Offensive Rookie of the Year? 0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:26.120 I think MVP. Just to answer that part, I don't 0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:29.160 think there's a bet there because I think the guys 0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:31.240 at the top are exactly who they should be. It's 0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:33.680 kind of my feeling on all the markets, just maybe 0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:35.960 maybe so right like, so you're right because defensive Player 0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:38.120 of the Year, it's what Micah Parsons. 0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:39.440 It's Parsons, Garrett TJ. 0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:43.000 Watt, Nick Bo's the usual suspect y right, So I mean, 0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:44.920 if you have conviction on one of the last year 0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:47.080 I had Michael Parsons plus six fifty, I was this 0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:48.960 is the easiest ben in the world. This is gonna 0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:50.680 cast no problem, and then all of a sudden not 0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:53.680 at all, right, Right, So what your point is a 0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:57.920 great one. There are certain markets where yeah, we all 0:30:57.960 --> 0:30:59.840 love Patrick Mahomes, but do you really want to bet 0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:01.880 him at what six or seven to one or whatever 0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:04.000 it is seven to one to win MVP. I don't 0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:05.600 know how you feel about what Kelly was saying. 0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:08.280 Man, yeah, no, it's so I was. 0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:11.440 I did this kind of like bit specifically on Joe Burrow, 0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:13.200 and you'll know that, like nobody loves Joe Burrow more 0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:16.120 than me, but like his number is not going anywhere, right, 0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:18.680 I mean it's it's like, so, why don't you see 0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:21.920 what this calf looks like after a few games and 0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:24.560 like cause, I mean, dude, he could like plant one 0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:27.000 time and like that calf injury could it could happen. 0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:28.800 I mean, it just doesn't make a lot of sense 0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:30.800 for me at the top of the board for sure, 0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:34.120 from an MVP standpoint. If you wanted to go way 0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:36.640 further down the line and like take a couple of 0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:39.080 dart throws, I mean, if you wanted to do the 0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:41.400 the Geno Smith stuff of the world and the Trevor 0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:42.280 Lawrence stuff. 0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:42.280 In the world. 0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:44.480 I mean, like, I don't hate it, I guess, but 0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:47.440 just not something really for me. I think the only 0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:50.200 bet that you can assuredly do not make unless you 0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:51.720 just want to light the money on. Just send the 0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:53.680 money to us and we will put it to better 0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:57.280 use is Deshaun Watson MVP, because I can assure you. 0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:00.640 I can assure you I got a better I assure you, 0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:03.959 yeah that if this is a human voted award, unless 0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:07.440 he throws for seven thousand yards and seventy five touchdowns, 0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:08.680 he is not getting MVP. 0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:09.959 Not happening. 0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:10.880 I have a better way for you. 0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:11.680 I heard your money. 0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:15.880 I heard someone advocate Deshaun Watson for Comeback Player of 0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:20.200 the Year, to which I said, oh no, no, no, no, 0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:24.160 think about what he's coming back from. Could you imagine that? Look, wait, 0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:30.280 what's he coming back from? Uh allegations? Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, 0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:32.280 he's not winning that. By the way, come Back by the. 0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:35.440 Year with sixty to one there and thirty to one MVP, 0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:38.720 I feel like that's accurlate. Actually stop it. At least twice. 0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:40.720 As a bunch of chances when he come. 0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:42.280 Back Comeback Player of the Year, you would have to 0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:44.200 add you'd have to add twenty zero. 0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:45.760 There's no way. 0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:48.720 Because at least at least with MVP, he could, he 0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:51.880 could play his way into it the most immaculate season 0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:54.160 in the history of the world, and like if they 0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:56.120 didn't vote it for him, then it would just be 0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:58.280 like the most obvious snubbing ever or something like that. 0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:00.600 So like he, like I said, he could, he could. 0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:03.959 Throw for sixty five hundred yards and like sixty sixty 0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:06.080 five touchdowns and then it'd be like, you can't, you 0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:08.400 can't not give it to him. But yeah, comeback player, 0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:09.640 no chance, no chance. 0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:13.440 Yeah, these I'm just scrolling down the MVP odds here. 0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:15.080 This is it's not exciting. 0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:19.040 It's becoming tough, because how the hell does Trey Lance 0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:24.920 have shorter odds than Jordan Love, Matthew Stafford, anybody's starting 0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:27.960 in the NFL should have shorter odds than Trey. 0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:29.680 Lance, but he's in there at fifty to One's third. 0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:33.640 Kelly, you answered, as far as like offensive rookie the year, 0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:35.800 I mean, I think the pricing is pretty accurate on 0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:38.400 Jon Robinson when you looked at like this guy's basically 0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:40.160 never going to come off the field, and so his 0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:43.520 counting stats, Yeah, are gonna be ridiculous, right, I mean, 0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:45.560 like there when he's not lined up in the backfield 0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:47.400 and they do go without you, Like he's gonna line 0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:49.240 up in the slot and he's gonna play slot receiver. 0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:52.640 It's like he's going to have a ton of catches, 0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:54.840 a ton of receiving yards, a ton of rushing yards. 0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:56.920 He's probably gonna be their goal line guy, so he's 0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:59.280 probably gonna get the counting stats from the from the 0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:01.560 rushing st of g I think betting against him is 0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:02.880 almost just betting on an injury. 0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:06.719 And he's plus two fifty plus two seventy five, you're 0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:08.960 as not betting on that though, right, like plus two 0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:10.239 seventy five running back. 0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:12.000 Yeah, that's why I think that market is all. 0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:14.360 But like I wanted to take a Yeah, it's like 0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:16.560 if you wanted to take one of the three quarterbacks 0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:18.319 and like just hope that one of them hits, I 0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:19.399 guess you could go that route. 0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:21.200 But even the prices on that is all that. 0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:25.440 Enough. Yeah. Yeah, back to comeback player of the Year. 0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:27.200 I know, obviously it's not gonna be de Shaun Watson. 0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:30.040 We were, you know, we were saying tomorrow Hamlin. Literally, 0:34:30.080 --> 0:34:32.320 there's never been any precedent for this. The man almost 0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:34.680 died on the football field, and we were saying the 0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:36.520 off season, what was the comment we settled on it 0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:39.319 if he if he makes one play, he should be 0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:41.759 the comeback player of the year maybe. And you did 0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:44.239 have a pushback at because I said, if he just 0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:46.200 shows up, yeah, yeah, yeah, and he said, no, he's 0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:47.920 got to make one He's got to make a tackle 0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:50.040 or something. All right, So he's got to make one tackle. 0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:53.160 But but I know, we we sort of had that exchange. 0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:57.120 Are we fooling ourselves? Like, are we couldn't possibly be 0:34:57.239 --> 0:34:59.200 that we are that short term of a memory that 0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:01.919 there actually is somebody else in there that if they 0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:05.839 did something special, you'd be like, well, actually, this might 0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:07.200 not be the worst bet in the world. 0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:13.160 I mean, look, step one has happened with Hamlin already. 0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:14.120 He made the fifty three. 0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:15.799 Like there was at least a question as to whether 0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:18.920 he might get cut. It's like step one of the process. 0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:20.239 You have already. Could you imagine that. 0:35:21.719 --> 0:35:23.000 Pr backlash on. 0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:25.799 That sorry tomorrow he gave it a good run. 0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:29.440 Yeah, no, I was I was advocating at least a 0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:33.080 little bit for Bryce Hall until the until the Dalvin 0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:35.920 Cook signing, and so now I don't think that that 0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:38.839 is as sexy for sure, because now I mean he's 0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:41.840 gonna get at least what thirty of his carry siphoned 0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:46.040 off by Dalvin Cook. There is a narrative and since 0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:48.600 this is a narrative deal, like there is a narrative 0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:52.040 to John Metchi, but it just depends, like it just 0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:55.279 depends on if he is able to put up like 0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:57.120 some numbers into what is probably going to be a 0:35:57.160 --> 0:35:59.680 bad Texans offense. But like there is at least a 0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:02.760 narrat there with all with that right coming horrible injury 0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:06.239 and then not Hodgins from Pomar. I mean, like there's 0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:08.680 there's like a narrative there, at least for him. So 0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:12.160 twenty eight to one I thought was at least fairly 0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:15.200 interesting for him, But there is there is limitations in 0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:16.640 the Texans offense for sure. 0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:19.000 Yeah, that was the old I think I just looking 0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:20.799 at it, right, I think that's the only other one 0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:21.759 I would even think of. 0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:27.440 That's the only acceptable the person to supplanting, right. 0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:30.480 And shout out to Jeff Parlay Parls because he was 0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:33.400 the first person I've I heard bring that up, you know, 0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:35.960 months and months and months ago at this point, and 0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:37.520 I know other people have discussed it. 0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:39.920 But battle leukemia by the way, just to be clear. 0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:42.360 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Like I think there's a chance. 0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:46.120 I mean, if if he has a significantly better receiving 0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:49.600 season when it comes to stats than what DeMar Hamlin's 0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:51.160 able to do defensively. 0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:51.839 Yeah, I think he's in the mix. 0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:54.200 So I don't think I think anybody grabbing a twenty 0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:55.560 eight to one on him, I don't mind that. 0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:58.440 But but I guess what we're saying is, if Russell 0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:02.320 Wilson has this amazing bounce back season, he's not winning 0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:03.480 Comeback Player of the Year. 0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:06.520 We agree, Yeah, okay, uh no, I don't really get 0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:10.480 to tu to one either. So behind Hamlin, who's actually going. 0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:11.760 To give the praise to Sean Payton? 0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:13.919 Like it's not gonna be like they're like they're gonna 0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:16.680 say like they're gonna say, like, oh, look, Hackett was 0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:19.160 so terrible. Here comes Sean Payton and then he reinvented 0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:21.480 Russell Wilson, right, like, like Sean Payton gets that love 0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:21.880 instead of. 0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:23.840 Russell will Since since you bring it up, is it 0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:28.359 possible that in Hackett and Urban Meyer. We have just 0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:31.680 lived through maybe the two worst head coaches in the 0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:33.279 history of the National Football. 0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:35.080 Leag Pretty pretty close. Yeah, Like I'm. 0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:37.000 Trying to think it pretty close, right. I know Jets 0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:38.759 fans would say rich co tight back in the day, 0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:41.200 but this was pretty happy. Speaking of the Jets, since 0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:43.719 they obviously dominated all the headlines in the offseason with 0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:46.360 Aaron Rodgers and they were on hard knocks, they have 0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:50.120 a brutal for six games to the season, brutal. Where 0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:52.200 do you stand on them? Matt? Like? Are you bullish? 0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:53.520 Are you bearish? What's your deal? 0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:57.160 I've been down on them pretty much all all off 0:37:57.200 --> 0:38:00.000 season and and mainly because of what you just mentioned. 0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:01.880 I mean, it is it is one. 0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:05.600 Thing to add a future Hall of Famer first ballot quarterback, 0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:07.680 and I think that that is definitely going to make 0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:10.640 this team better, There's no question about that. However, you 0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:13.760 still have to play these others. I think that division 0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:16.759 with the Dolphins and the Bills, that's four games that 0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:17.920 are gonna be very difficult. 0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:19.799 I'm not really very high on on the Patriots, but. 0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:21.799 I mean there's there's four games are gonna be super 0:38:21.800 --> 0:38:24.759 tough and as every other part of that schedule is 0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:26.320 just so so so rough. 0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:29.240 This is I'm sorry, this is their first six before 0:38:29.280 --> 0:38:31.400 the bye just a just a pachers what you're saying? 0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:36.319 Home buff Home, Buffalo at Dallas, Home, New England, Home, 0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:40.680 Kansas City at Denver in the elevation home Philadelphia, Oh 0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:41.280 my god. 0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:45.080 And then by the way, you yeah, you come you 0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:47.520 get that bye, you come out. What if the Giants 0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:50.680 are actually not right? So then now you go Giants 0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:54.080 and the Bill that's right, yeah yeah, and then and 0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:56.520 then Bill's Dolphins, right, and like with the with a 0:38:56.680 --> 0:38:59.439 with a Raiders game sandwiched in between. So it could 0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:02.720 be a there's a non zero chance that this team 0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:05.439 is like not only under five hundred by the time 0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:07.759 we get to week twelve, but like well under five 0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:09.960 hundred by the time we get to week twelve. And again, like, 0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:11.880 I don't think that that's like out of the scope 0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:14.480 of what can realistically happen. This isn't one of those Hey, 0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:16.960 Matt throw out a statement in hyperbole and everyone like 0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:18.799 per clicks like, no, that's not what I'm doing. I 0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:20.640 honestly think that there is a chance by the time 0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:22.600 we get to week twelve, this Jeff team could be 0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:24.719 under five hundred and maybe even a couple games under 0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:25.280 five hundred. 0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:26.960 Yeah. The other one with. 0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:29.880 That is I think everybody should temper the air, like 0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:33.000 to Aaron Rodgers expectations a bit, because I still think, 0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:36.680 I mean, call me crazy if you want. I still 0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:38.560 think this team is going to recognize that they had 0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:42.120 a great defense last year. You obviously you got Breeze Hall, 0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:44.120 but you felt the need to add Dalvin Cook. Like 0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:46.480 I do think this is a team that's gonna be 0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:49.680 pretty balanced offensively, Like I think they're gonna lean on 0:39:49.719 --> 0:39:52.439 their defense, Like I don't think it's gonna be hey, 0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:55.560 Aaron Rodgers, like go out and sling the ball around like. 0:39:55.480 --> 0:39:58.720 We need you know, we need you and you alone. 0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:00.880 To save this whole season. I don't really know that 0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:01.720 they're in that spot. 0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:04.560 They go, like, listen, Garrett Wilson, I think is an 0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:06.920 awesome player, and I like all this, But like, I 0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:09.399 have been looking pretty pretty hard, and I think I'm 0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:12.359 gonna I was waiting to see if, like the Jets fans, 0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:15.360 that everybody would kind of pump up his totals and 0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:17.480 stuff for the season. But like I'm looking at the 0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:19.359 under one there's a lot of mouths to feed there 0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:22.080 in that offense as it is anyway. And then second, 0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:26.960 if you go back and look, so the twenty twenty Packers, right, 0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:29.200 and who was their offensive coordinator, and if they know Howcket, 0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:32.280 they were dead last in situation neutral pace. The twenty 0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:35.839 twenty one Packers thirty first in situation neutral pace. 0:40:35.960 --> 0:40:37.080 The twenty twenty. 0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:41.200 Version with Hacket gone was twenty eighth in situation neutral pace. 0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:43.759 So Aaron Rodgers just operate slowly, like he is a 0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:45.840 deliberate dude who likes to get up to the line, 0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:47.880 and he likes to look at the defense, and he 0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:50.359 likes to call audibles he likes. So I think they're 0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:52.239 going to run fewer plays than most teams out there. 0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:54.080 And then you add what Kelly said, and then you 0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:56.600 add what Kelly said with the defense like they might 0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:59.680 not be looking up at like like very many deficits 0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:01.439 are like you know, where they have to play past 0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:03.279 and up that tempo and throw a lot. And so 0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:05.760 I just think, like, you know, some of the unders 0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:07.960 on some of these offensive players on the jet side 0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:08.919 is the way to look as well. 0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:12.080 It's interesting, Yeah, I think I think unders on the 0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:14.279 games too, right, we laid out the tough schedule, like, 0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:16.040 I don't think that. I don't think the Jets are 0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:17.560 gonna I don't think they're gonna be horrible. I don't think 0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:20.560 we're gonna get blown out by these teams. But okay, 0:41:20.760 --> 0:41:23.680 you're playing against Kansas City, Like, what are you trying 0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:25.279 to do? You're trying to keep Patrick Mahomes off the 0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:27.160 field for as long as you can just because you 0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:29.120 have Aaron Rodgers. Now, I don't think that changes that 0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:32.080 at all. Right, So it's I, yeah, I think all 0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:34.120 of that I would be. I haven't bet any of them, 0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:36.560 but I think anybody looking at player props season total 0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:39.680 long unders on a lot of Jets things. If it 0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:41.879 has to do receiving or passing, I don't think it's 0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:42.399 a bad play. 0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:44.399 You bet other stuff, Kelly, What else did you bet here? Yeah? 0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:47.279 Yeah, I uh, let's see what else do I have? 0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:49.279 I do have a Chargers, Yes, to make the playoffs. 0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:51.520 There you go. This is the year. 0:41:51.520 --> 0:41:54.080 Minus what fifteen. I'm on board for that one. I am. 0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:56.640 We all had our year doing this, we all. 0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:58.440 I'm so glad you've backed me up at what at 0:41:58.480 --> 0:42:00.600 least saying that cause I'm just I can't look at 0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:01.360 that roster. 0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:03.840 That was last year. It last year, I know, I know. 0:42:04.000 --> 0:42:05.480 Do we think Brandon by the way, do we think 0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:07.919 Brandon Staley? I know, because when we were doing Primetime Action, 0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:09.960 we were correct me if I'm wrong, You'll correct me 0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:13.920 if I'm wrong. We were Brandon Staley guys. Yeah, we thought, 0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:17.279 we thought And then like the first year, let's face it, 0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:19.919 like I get it, you wanted to be this analytics 0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:22.560 driven guy who went for it when most other teams 0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:25.239 didn't because you saw the real numbers on this, and 0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:27.200 he took it too far right like some of the times, 0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:29.680 like in his own territory deep they were doing. It's 0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:32.200 like okay, dude, stop it. And then I thought last year, 0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:35.000 like times were I thought he should have gone for it. 0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:37.000 He almost like he was like, no, I can't do 0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:39.040 that anymore. Right, you know, I don't know where do 0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:41.080 you stand on Brandon Staley? Now? Do you like him 0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:41.640 as a coach? 0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:47.839 I think I think that it might not matter as 0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:51.760 much this year because bringing in Kellen Moore and getting 0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:53.160 rid of Joe Lombardy. 0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:56.799 Yes, and like that's a big trick, dude. It was 0:42:56.840 --> 0:42:57.600 like Lombardi. 0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:00.160 You have a dude with the with one of the 0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:03.080 biggest arms we've ever seen at the quarterback position in 0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:06.440 the NFL, and his average depth of target was twenty 0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:07.960 sixth in the NFL last year. 0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:10.160 It's like criminal, that's ridiculous. 0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:11.239 It's criminal. 0:43:11.360 --> 0:43:13.040 Like you have one of the best fifty to fifty 0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:15.320 ball receivers in the NFL, and Mike Williams like he 0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:17.719 might he's not the most polished dude, but he can 0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:19.560 like go up and get a fifty to fifty ball 0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:21.759 and like you're twenty six the NFL on average up 0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:23.719 to target. Like the fact that they're gonna throw and 0:43:23.760 --> 0:43:26.319 throw more and throw down field and take advantage of 0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:29.960 these offensive weapons, I think it will probably put Staley 0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:32.880 in fewer chances to blow it, you know, like like 0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:34.879 your chances to have to like do like. 0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:35.680 Some of these things. 0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:40.440 So cut to a shine, yeah, exactly, cut to fourthour. 0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:44.080 I just I think that I think the addition to Kellimore, 0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:46.399 like you're talking about, I think that's huge. Look look 0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:48.279 at what he's done with the Cowboys passing game over 0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:50.640 the past couple of years. We Cowboys are always in 0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:52.719 the spotlight so much. But like that has been a 0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:55.719 solid passing game. And meanwhile, you're talking about in pass 0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:59.239 offense that ran twenty eighth last season and a lot 0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:01.200 of what you're talking about, but over a pro football focus, 0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:03.960 they were in twenty eighth rights passing offense with the Chargers. 0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:06.879 So I think that's gonna like, that's gonna change things. 0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:10.800 I love Quentin Johnson addition there in the wide receiving corps. 0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:13.359 And this is a team where, you know, you joke, 0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:15.080 you'll about everybody's kind of been high on them in 0:44:15.120 --> 0:44:18.440 different years, but like they have struggled through major injuries 0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:19.560 at the worst time. 0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:21.680 They're always injured every. 0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:25.960 Year, and we always choose to recognize some of those teams. 0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:28.480 We never recognize the teams that just run pure all 0:44:28.600 --> 0:44:30.640 year long on injuries, you know, and it's like that 0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:32.640 is such a big deal when it. 0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:33.520 Comes to the NFL. 0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:36.800 So I'm kind of hoping, hey, maybe like Mike Williams, 0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:39.279 you know, Ketan Nollen can actually play a few games 0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:41.160 together like this year, That would be nice to see 0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:43.600 once in a while because they're seemingly never do. So 0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:46.600 I'm in on the Chargers. What else did I bet 0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:50.040 Raiders and Titans fewest wins. I took shots on you know, 0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:52.160 maybe the Cardinals moves earlier this week. I have me 0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:55.160 be less excited about those bets too, because I don't 0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:57.600 know if we've seen a more declarative move of we're 0:44:57.640 --> 0:44:58.000 in the. 0:44:57.920 --> 0:44:59.439 Tank, then see it go by the way. 0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:02.120 I made that good Panthers last team to record a 0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:05.040 first win the day before, of course, right the day 0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:09.880 before they cut Colt McCoy. Sorry to interrupt, but it's like, 0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:12.400 so you famously a couple of years ago, Matt, you 0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:15.400 had those Texans unders. The Texans had the lowest win total. 0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:18.319 You bet it and betted again. You had like a 0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:19.719 five and a half and a five and a four 0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:22.880 and a half. I camera, are the Cardinals so bad? 0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:25.279 And not only the Cardinals, let me just not pick 0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:28.600 on them, but like we were looking at the Texans, 0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:30.799 I don't know how the Texans get to their season 0:45:30.880 --> 0:45:33.239 win total leader, Like, is there a team where you're like, 0:45:33.520 --> 0:45:36.680 they can't. Yes, they're bad and everybody knows they're bad, 0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:38.520 but their season wind totals are not low enough. 0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:42.279 Yeah, I mean, so I didn't. I did not move 0:45:42.320 --> 0:45:42.880 any lines. 0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:44.919 Everyone likes to scream whatever we talk about the lines 0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:47.080 that we got and say, well, yeah, I get it, 0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:48.880 like whatever, But that's why I bet. That's why I 0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:50.239 bet it early to get the bet in my cowra. 0:45:50.520 --> 0:45:52.759 So they opened this Cardinals team at five and a half, 0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:55.000 by the way, five and a half, right, that was 0:45:56.040 --> 0:45:58.880 like as as early as often and as many different 0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:00.759 books here in town as put it up. I went 0:46:00.800 --> 0:46:02.480 in and hit it as many times I could. They 0:46:02.520 --> 0:46:04.080 went to four. By the way, Draft Kings is three 0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:05.960 and a half. Now I might have it like they've 0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:07.320 all the way they've gone down to three and a 0:46:07.360 --> 0:46:10.560 half now on on this team. Listen, there is I've 0:46:10.560 --> 0:46:12.560 screamed this from a mountaintop. I know you guys talked 0:46:12.600 --> 0:46:14.239 about it, but if you people are just now listening 0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:16.839 to the play game, they have every incentive they're doing 0:46:16.880 --> 0:46:20.000 the right thing. They have every incentive to tear this 0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:22.080 thing down and be the worst team in the NFL. 0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:25.840 Like very very very few opportunities do you ever get 0:46:26.120 --> 0:46:30.000 to actually rebuild a team in as short a fashion 0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:32.359 as they might be able to do because you have 0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:35.520 Kyler Murray sitting on the sideline. If you're the worst team, 0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:37.799 you get the number one overall pick. If the Texans 0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:40.320 are the second worst team and you run really pure, 0:46:40.680 --> 0:46:42.200 you are going to end up with the first and 0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:45.000 the second pick in this draft, in a quarterback heavy 0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:47.880 draft in which teams will give Heaven and Earth to 0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:50.520 draft either Drake May or Caleb Williams. So you have 0:46:50.600 --> 0:46:53.440 a choice to either stick with Kyler Murray and then 0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:56.000 you trade both of those picks for a king's ransom 0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:59.880 and you can actually rebuild this team almost overnight, or 0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:02.760 you move on from Kyler Murray. You'll still get something 0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:05.320 in return for Kyler Murray. You draft Caleb Williams, and 0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:06.920 then you moved the number two pick for Heaven and 0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:09.600 Earth for somebody who wants Drake May. Like it's like 0:47:09.719 --> 0:47:13.520 the greatest scenario ever for this Cardinals team to be bad, 0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:15.680 and they are buying into it early and often, and 0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:16.400 I'm here for it. 0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:17.919 I love it. It's so good. 0:47:18.200 --> 0:47:19.960 I'm a big fan of a tame. I'm a big 0:47:19.960 --> 0:47:20.680 fan of a tame. 0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:23.480 And I always brought him because I applawed the Yeah, 0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:25.239 it's kind of kind of like a poker thing, right, 0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:26.680 you got a bad hand, throw it away, like I 0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:29.080 always applaud the Rosen move too, Like you went over, 0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:31.080 he sucked you figured it out quick. You moved on 0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:32.600 and went to a quarterback. If you don't have a 0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:34.520 quarterback that can win in this league, you're not You're 0:47:34.560 --> 0:47:37.640 not winning anything. So I some of these teams stretch 0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:39.280 it out for too long with these guys. 0:47:39.520 --> 0:47:41.920 If you know he sucks, he move on, by the way, 0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:42.960 That's what the Niners did. 0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:45.040 By the way, Caleb Williams has already stated that he'd 0:47:45.080 --> 0:47:47.760 stay another year if it's not one of his desired teams. 0:47:48.040 --> 0:47:51.320 He gets paid worth of ten million on nil. He 0:47:51.440 --> 0:47:52.919 was just hanging out at USC. He's like, I don't 0:47:52.920 --> 0:47:54.480 want to play for that team. 0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:54.960 Man. 0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:56.919 Do you just think for really in a world where 0:47:56.960 --> 0:47:59.560 that could happen? Now more with the nil money I do? 0:48:00.120 --> 0:48:04.160 That is so so just to uh to the GIL. 0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:06.400 Not to get too off, but is a pre preseason 0:48:06.400 --> 0:48:11.120 best regardless. I have Quinn Youwers, Michael Pennix and JJ 0:48:11.200 --> 0:48:14.719 McCarthy number one overall pick tickets that I do every year. 0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:17.320 As you guys know, I take these. I take these. 0:48:17.239 --> 0:48:20.799 Quarterbacks with bigger numbers and go ahead and get them 0:48:20.800 --> 0:48:24.000 in and and listen, there is I think there's a 0:48:24.080 --> 0:48:27.000 non zero chance Caleb Williams has the leverage to do 0:48:27.160 --> 0:48:30.959 something wacky like that, right, And I also look at 0:48:31.080 --> 0:48:34.920 the like the prototypical NFL quarterback that's that you know, 0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:37.239 what they love so much is Quinn youwers like you know, 0:48:37.280 --> 0:48:39.920 the big strong art whatever like all that, Like all 0:48:39.960 --> 0:48:41.680 you need is one team to fall in love with him, 0:48:42.239 --> 0:48:44.799 Michael Pinnicks with all the dual threat stuff that he's got, 0:48:44.840 --> 0:48:47.000 and like you got that. And then JJ McCarthy on 0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:49.200 a team that might win the national championship in Michigan. 0:48:49.520 --> 0:48:51.759 That certainly helps a lot as well somewhere along the way. 0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:54.439 So for me, I have those three tickets in there 0:48:54.480 --> 0:48:57.200 on the off chance that Caleb Williams really does do 0:48:57.239 --> 0:49:00.720 something wacky and decide to stay in college. Like you mentioned, 0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:04.000 he makes like seven to eight figures staying in college. 0:49:04.040 --> 0:49:06.200 So it's not the craziest thing in the world. It 0:49:06.280 --> 0:49:08.160 is wild, but it's just in my head. 0:49:08.200 --> 0:49:09.919 I can't get around, you know, Like you guys brought 0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:11.680 up earlier with Sam Halleck, that was a guy who 0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:13.520 was projected to be a first round pick before he 0:49:13.600 --> 0:49:15.760 had a bad year, right, and then you'd slide. 0:49:16.120 --> 0:49:17.960 It's like, would you really gamble on that? 0:49:18.160 --> 0:49:20.080 And I don't know, if you're getting if you're making 0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:21.799 that much money a year in nil. 0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:23.400 Do you ten million to hang out in LA for 0:49:23.440 --> 0:49:23.919 another year? 0:49:23.960 --> 0:49:25.880 I mean, I guess it makes up for some of 0:49:25.920 --> 0:49:30.360 the draft position stuff, but man if whenever that happens, 0:49:30.400 --> 0:49:32.360 if that happens, that's it's gonna still. 0:49:32.200 --> 0:49:34.040 Be pretty sure. One follow up, because you mentioned it's 0:49:34.080 --> 0:49:36.719 three and a half at DraftKings mat on the Cardinals. 0:49:36.960 --> 0:49:39.959 Is that too low? It does an NFL team, even 0:49:40.000 --> 0:49:42.279 in tank mode, just like we say with baseball teams, 0:49:42.320 --> 0:49:44.880 like the worst baseball team figures out a way to 0:49:44.960 --> 0:49:47.799 win fifty games? Right, maybe not the A's this year, 0:49:47.840 --> 0:49:50.080 but you get the idea. Is that the same with 0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:50.839 an NFL team? 0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:50.960 Like? 0:49:51.040 --> 0:49:52.680 Is that too low? You wouldn't been under on that, 0:49:52.760 --> 0:49:53.120 would you. 0:49:54.320 --> 0:49:56.080 The Bears won three games last year? 0:49:56.360 --> 0:50:00.759 Yeah, I guess so, Cardinals won four game games last year. 0:50:01.080 --> 0:50:05.560 Yeah, you know it's the Texans won three games last year. 0:50:06.680 --> 0:50:09.359 I mean, that's a tough it was a tough bet 0:50:09.400 --> 0:50:10.960 to sit through, though, it is it is. 0:50:11.200 --> 0:50:13.040 It is the one I always think about though, Like 0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:15.200 you know, when people ask me, the Bears last year 0:50:15.200 --> 0:50:18.360 are the perfect example, rags. They won three games and 0:50:18.520 --> 0:50:21.719 like somehow we all walked away with like upsides from 0:50:21.760 --> 0:50:24.480 the season with Bears, right, it was like, well, I 0:50:24.520 --> 0:50:25.960 think Field shown a couple of things. 0:50:26.560 --> 0:50:28.080 It's like they won three freaking games. 0:50:28.120 --> 0:50:33.920 Like what are we talking about wildings? Yeah, any other 0:50:33.920 --> 0:50:35.360 bets that you had, Matt that you wanted to let 0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:36.080 people know about. 0:50:36.520 --> 0:50:40.560 Uh So, I mean, look, it is of the numbers 0:50:40.600 --> 0:50:42.160 that are still available, because I don't want to sit 0:50:42.200 --> 0:50:45.080 here and talk about stuff that people can't get anymore. Oh, 0:50:45.120 --> 0:50:48.120 I told your receiving prop so that one, yes, the 0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:51.040 ceedee lamb one right, yeah, yeah, so I have ceedee 0:50:51.080 --> 0:50:55.399 lamb over ten ninety nine and a half yards. I 0:50:55.440 --> 0:50:59.800 think people are over estimating the like the conservative nature 0:50:59.840 --> 0:51:03.560 of McCarthy taking over and calling plays here, Like, yeah, 0:51:03.600 --> 0:51:06.560 are they going to be as past happy as they 0:51:06.560 --> 0:51:09.520 were with Kellen Moore? Maybe not, but it's not going 0:51:09.560 --> 0:51:12.200 to be this precipitous difference that like everybody. So these 0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:15.080 projections on what I think for one of the most 0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:18.120 explosive offenses in the league now that Zeke is gone, 0:51:18.200 --> 0:51:21.319 like he is no longer siphoning off these carries that 0:51:21.440 --> 0:51:24.359 just waste plays for this team, and so I think 0:51:24.400 --> 0:51:25.960 they're going to get more first downs, and if you 0:51:26.000 --> 0:51:28.080 get more first downs, there's more opportunities for these things 0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:30.840 to get home. And so I think Ceedee Lamb is 0:51:31.520 --> 0:51:34.880 not only a really good bet for over eleven hundred yards, 0:51:34.880 --> 0:51:37.880 but I mean most receiving yards in the league. I 0:51:37.920 --> 0:51:41.000 think is not out of the realm of possibility, just 0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:43.440 depending on how big of a chunk Jordan Addison actually 0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:46.200 takes out of Justin Jefferson up there in Minnesota. I 0:51:46.440 --> 0:51:48.440 think that Ceedee Lamb over ten ninety nine and a 0:51:48.480 --> 0:51:50.560 half is a really really good bet to ye. 0:51:50.719 --> 0:51:52.279 I think just to fall up on that point, like 0:51:53.000 --> 0:51:56.160 I don't get the McCarthy Like, I've never really got 0:51:56.160 --> 0:51:58.640 what you know McCarthy's talking about. We need to slow 0:51:58.719 --> 0:52:01.480 this down, YadA YadA, ya run the ball more. Well, okay, 0:52:01.760 --> 0:52:03.959 it's easier to say that if you had the same 0:52:04.120 --> 0:52:06.399 roster as you did last year. But like you don't 0:52:06.480 --> 0:52:09.240 have the dual backs of Zeke and Tony Pollard. 0:52:09.320 --> 0:52:11.000 Now, like you're putting all your eggs. 0:52:11.080 --> 0:52:13.560 Do we know Tony Pollard is gonna be good moving change? 0:52:13.840 --> 0:52:16.120 I don't know for sure, Gil, but you're putting but ployers, 0:52:16.120 --> 0:52:18.839 they're putting all their eggs in that basket like this 0:52:18.960 --> 0:52:20.920 could very easily turn into a. 0:52:21.000 --> 0:52:23.040 Just pass heavy offense just because. 0:52:22.800 --> 0:52:26.560 It has to. Yeah, it's uh and an Bell and 0:52:26.880 --> 0:52:28.640 Zeke ends up with the Patriots, by the way. By 0:52:28.680 --> 0:52:31.560 the way that I'll also you know, the strange backup 0:52:31.640 --> 0:52:33.840 quarterback thing ends up being Matt corral Now in the 0:52:33.920 --> 0:52:35.840 end and not Bailey Zappy. That was interesting, and not 0:52:35.960 --> 0:52:39.440 Tom Brady and not Tom Brady, which people wanted so 0:52:39.640 --> 0:52:41.919 bad for it to happen. I know they will try 0:52:41.920 --> 0:52:44.400 to will that into existence. Uh Okay, let's do this 0:52:44.440 --> 0:52:47.120 because I want to get this on record, your seven 0:52:47.280 --> 0:52:50.399 playoff teams in each conference, because this will be fun 0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:51.160 to look back on. 0:52:53.960 --> 0:52:57.239 So, so we're gonna go. 0:52:57.480 --> 0:53:02.520 We're gonna go Bills, Bengals, Jags, and Chiefs because of 0:53:02.719 --> 0:53:06.560 the four division winners. Right, I went with I think 0:53:06.600 --> 0:53:09.239 the Browns are gonna be good. I do, Like I mean, 0:53:09.600 --> 0:53:12.440 it's it's there's if the only way that they're not 0:53:12.480 --> 0:53:15.000 good is if Deshaun Watson is actually washed, and if 0:53:15.000 --> 0:53:17.640 that's the case, then they won't be. But they're they 0:53:17.719 --> 0:53:19.400 got a lot of they got a lot of dudes, 0:53:19.640 --> 0:53:21.279 and so it's find it hard to believe that they 0:53:21.320 --> 0:53:23.800 can't get into the playoffs. So I have the Browns 0:53:23.840 --> 0:53:25.960 in the playoffs as well. I have the Chargers in 0:53:26.040 --> 0:53:28.760 the playoffs as well. Yeah, I know, Banana and the tailpipe. 0:53:28.800 --> 0:53:30.560 Yet again, with the Chargers, I get it. I'm gonna 0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:33.399 go ahead and and do that and my final playoff team. 0:53:33.400 --> 0:53:35.360 And this is where I get a lot of controversy 0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:38.080 from people. It's actually not the Ravens. For me, it 0:53:38.160 --> 0:53:40.600 is the Dolphins, and so I'm going the Dolphins as 0:53:40.680 --> 0:53:43.799 the seventh pick. I think that Dolphins roster we have 0:53:43.840 --> 0:53:44.600 to assume health. 0:53:44.680 --> 0:53:47.040 I get it. I know if Tua takes one big hit, 0:53:47.080 --> 0:53:48.239 this could be all over. 0:53:48.360 --> 0:53:50.040 And I get all that, which is why I'm not 0:53:50.080 --> 0:53:51.839 gonna go as far as to say they can win 0:53:51.840 --> 0:53:54.640 that division over the Bills. But I think that that team, 0:53:54.680 --> 0:53:56.360 if you really break it down and you look like 0:53:56.400 --> 0:53:58.520 there is there's a lot to like about them. When 0:53:58.560 --> 0:54:01.440 when Tua was on the field last year, that offense hummed, 0:54:01.680 --> 0:54:03.560 and it was like the only time they didn't hum 0:54:03.600 --> 0:54:05.160 was when he was not on the field. And so 0:54:05.760 --> 0:54:08.080 I like that offense a lot, and they still have 0:54:08.120 --> 0:54:11.080 some decent talent on defense, So I do have. 0:54:11.800 --> 0:54:14.759 I do feel like just anecdotally the talking football. Someummer 0:54:14.840 --> 0:54:17.319 that they're the forgotten team, like people have kind of 0:54:18.320 --> 0:54:20.160 just let them slip out of their mind. Maybe it 0:54:20.239 --> 0:54:21.440 is the two a thing whatever within you. 0:54:21.840 --> 0:54:24.480 And I'll tell you Gil, it's like the most underrated 0:54:24.480 --> 0:54:26.480 thing because it's not super sexy. And we talk about 0:54:26.480 --> 0:54:28.640 this a lot, but like they brought in Vic Fangio 0:54:28.719 --> 0:54:31.719 is their defensive coordinator, and you can say whatever you 0:54:31.719 --> 0:54:33.560 want about him as a head coach. We get this 0:54:33.600 --> 0:54:35.399 all the time, Like some dudes are just not built 0:54:35.440 --> 0:54:38.040 to run the whole ship. I want to talk about 0:54:38.040 --> 0:54:42.520 guys that are more respected in a singular position. You'd 0:54:42.560 --> 0:54:44.480 be hard to find more people talk about Vic Fangio 0:54:44.480 --> 0:54:46.480 as a defensive coordinator and like what he can do, 0:54:46.880 --> 0:54:49.040 and so like that guy comes in now to run 0:54:49.080 --> 0:54:51.839 the defense to go along with that offense. Like there's 0:54:51.880 --> 0:54:55.600 always the health concerns, but there's health concerns with every team, 0:54:55.680 --> 0:54:57.920 every person, every everything, So you know you can't go 0:54:58.000 --> 0:54:58.799 in worry about all that. 0:54:58.840 --> 0:55:00.840 I think the Dolphins are the seventh teen NFC. 0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:03.919 Well we'll do AFC around the horn. 0:55:04.000 --> 0:55:11.920 Yeah, AFC, a FC, Bills, Bengals, Jags, Chiefs, your division winners, 0:55:11.960 --> 0:55:13.160 is that everything you said, Matt? 0:55:13.480 --> 0:55:16.719 My wild cards are Ravens, Chargers, Dolphins. 0:55:17.360 --> 0:55:27.640 Bills, Bengals, Jaguars, Chiefs. We're all in consensus on division winners. Chargers, Ravens, Dolphins. 0:55:27.640 --> 0:55:28.799 Did I just take yours? Yeah? 0:55:28.840 --> 0:55:31.200 Yeah, we all have the Dolphins. So maybe the. 0:55:31.120 --> 0:55:32.960 AFC is not. Yeah, AFC's not that. This is where 0:55:33.000 --> 0:55:35.040 it's going to be interesting NFC, Matt, you start. 0:55:34.880 --> 0:55:36.560 But I think we me and you both left the 0:55:36.560 --> 0:55:39.239 Browns out and like for me it is it is 0:55:39.360 --> 0:55:41.160 Brown's Dolphins, neck and neck. 0:55:41.280 --> 0:55:43.520 Like right there, I'm with you. 0:55:43.560 --> 0:55:46.200 So on the NFC side of things, division winners Eagles 0:55:46.239 --> 0:55:47.960 in the East, I have that pretty good. Like I 0:55:47.960 --> 0:55:50.520 said I, I have the Vikings. I mean, look, they 0:55:50.520 --> 0:55:52.200 had thirteen wins last year. So you want to tell 0:55:52.200 --> 0:55:53.759 me about all the you want to tell me about 0:55:53.760 --> 0:55:55.879 all the ones, Okay, we'll say you don't get two 0:55:55.880 --> 0:55:57.560 of those. They still had eleven and still end up 0:55:57.560 --> 0:55:59.800 with eleven wins. Eleven wins could could win that division. 0:56:00.280 --> 0:56:03.120 So like I still have the Vikings in the North. 0:56:03.480 --> 0:56:06.879 In the South, it's super boring. I honestly think any 0:56:06.920 --> 0:56:08.560 of the I said this at the top, I would 0:56:08.640 --> 0:56:10.719 not be surprised if any four of these teams were 0:56:10.719 --> 0:56:11.400 to win this division. 0:56:11.480 --> 0:56:12.799 That's the Bucks included, right. 0:56:12.880 --> 0:56:15.600 So that being said, let's go ahead and just stick 0:56:15.600 --> 0:56:17.680 with the Saints because there are at least some stability 0:56:17.719 --> 0:56:19.960 at the quarterback position with the Saints. 0:56:20.280 --> 0:56:22.000 And then in the West, I have the Seahawks. I really, 0:56:22.080 --> 0:56:24.000 I really do. I have the Seahawks in the West. 0:56:24.000 --> 0:56:24.960 So those are the four for me. 0:56:25.719 --> 0:56:27.520 As far as a wild card, I do have the 0:56:27.520 --> 0:56:29.799 forty nine Ers, I do have the Cowboys. And then 0:56:29.840 --> 0:56:32.160 it comes to that seventh spot, and I don't see 0:56:32.200 --> 0:56:36.000 a world in which a second NFC South team gets in, 0:56:36.120 --> 0:56:37.719 so then it has to be one of the other 0:56:37.920 --> 0:56:40.840 North teams, and I'll go ahead and say the Lions, 0:56:40.880 --> 0:56:44.080 though I'm not ruling out it being the Packers at all. 0:56:44.120 --> 0:56:46.839 That would by far be my least confident of any 0:56:46.920 --> 0:56:49.600 of the playoff teams that I put in there would 0:56:49.600 --> 0:56:51.520 be the Lions, because I think it could be the Packers. 0:56:51.560 --> 0:56:53.600 I think it'd be like, it wouldn't shock me if 0:56:53.640 --> 0:56:55.560 it were the Bears, and honest to God, it wouldn't 0:56:55.560 --> 0:56:57.520 shock me if the Commanders of the Giants either. So 0:56:58.520 --> 0:57:00.719 that seventh spot in the n see I think it's 0:57:00.719 --> 0:57:02.680 gonna be really wacky when it all comes down to it. 0:57:04.400 --> 0:57:08.440 Yeah, totally division winners for me. 0:57:10.000 --> 0:57:12.080 See, this is so to any NFC, to some of 0:57:12.120 --> 0:57:12.880 these division winners. 0:57:12.880 --> 0:57:15.719 Why that's why I don't have a bet only any 0:57:15.760 --> 0:57:17.800 of these, any of these top conferences. 0:57:17.800 --> 0:57:18.520 Eagles Cowboys. 0:57:18.560 --> 0:57:20.880 I didn't go either way, but I'll go Eagles Division winner, 0:57:21.160 --> 0:57:22.240 Cowboys are in the playoffs? 0:57:22.320 --> 0:57:24.360 Is a wildcard? Forty nine or Seahawks? 0:57:25.080 --> 0:57:27.280 I think I think the odds where they're at now 0:57:27.400 --> 0:57:30.800 probably are are fair odds. I liked what you know, 0:57:31.000 --> 0:57:32.440 if I could have gotten the number that the Matt got, 0:57:32.440 --> 0:57:34.600 I probably would have sprinkled a little bit on the Seahawks. 0:57:34.760 --> 0:57:38.520 I'll say forty nine Ers Division winner, Seahawks in as 0:57:38.560 --> 0:57:41.520 a wild card. I'd hate to say it, but I 0:57:41.520 --> 0:57:44.520 think the Saints probably win the NFC South. I'd like 0:57:44.600 --> 0:57:46.640 my odds though, on the on the Panthers. That's why 0:57:46.640 --> 0:57:48.280 we have I have a bet on the Panthers. No, 0:57:48.360 --> 0:57:49.680 I'm have bet on the Saints because I think the 0:57:49.680 --> 0:57:51.720 odds are good enough on the Panthers that it makes 0:57:51.760 --> 0:57:54.560 it worth a bet. So I've got that, and then 0:57:54.680 --> 0:57:59.040 Packers Vikings. It's I'm putting those two same things. Ones 0:57:59.080 --> 0:58:01.040 wins the North in one makes it in as a 0:58:01.080 --> 0:58:03.240 wild card, but I think I think the Lions could 0:58:03.280 --> 0:58:05.720 be involved there too. Shoot, I don't even know if 0:58:05.720 --> 0:58:07.880 it'd be shocked if the Bears are. The NFC North 0:58:07.960 --> 0:58:09.680 is up for grabs as well. 0:58:10.280 --> 0:58:14.120 Philly in the East, Nighters in the West. I'll say 0:58:14.200 --> 0:58:16.560 Saints two in the South, even though that's super boring, 0:58:17.280 --> 0:58:21.120 and I am going to say Packers in the North. 0:58:21.280 --> 0:58:25.200 Just for that, we go and then the wild card wound. 0:58:25.200 --> 0:58:29.840 Go Seahawks, Cowboys and the Washington Commos. 0:58:31.680 --> 0:58:34.120 Come on, you gotta stay on brand, Washington Commos. 0:58:34.440 --> 0:58:37.360 I also have an alternate high regular season win total on Washington. 0:58:37.400 --> 0:58:38.800 People know if I if they listen to the show 0:58:38.840 --> 0:58:41.120 long enough, I if they suck, they suck. I am. 0:58:41.200 --> 0:58:43.040 I'm all about piling on. But this is the first 0:58:43.120 --> 0:58:47.200 year a D. Dan Snyder a D so very excited for. 0:58:47.200 --> 0:58:51.880 Listen, listen, listen, mclauren Dotson, Like you know, they got 0:58:52.000 --> 0:58:54.840 like the guy reciverer longest longest Sam Hawi can get 0:58:54.880 --> 0:58:56.439 them the ball, Like, I mean, they're gonna be able 0:58:56.440 --> 0:58:57.760 to They're gonna be able to make some places. 0:58:57.960 --> 0:58:59.760 One of the best defensive fronts, if not the best 0:58:59.760 --> 0:59:02.560 in all of football. They drafted Forbes, who looks good, 0:59:03.840 --> 0:59:05.240 and then the Super Bowl because with Kelly and I 0:59:05.320 --> 0:59:07.840 were talking about exact as, by the way, in baseball 0:59:07.920 --> 0:59:10.080 right now, like we're just talking this morning. I think 0:59:10.120 --> 0:59:12.840 Braves Astros exact is either way are like good prices 0:59:12.880 --> 0:59:15.360 at sixteen and eighteen to one, Braves at sixteen to one, 0:59:15.400 --> 0:59:17.360 to beat the Astros the other way around at eighteen 0:59:17.400 --> 0:59:20.840 to one NFL obviously you're gonna a longer shot right now. 0:59:20.840 --> 0:59:22.480 But if you took what were some of the numbers 0:59:22.480 --> 0:59:25.400 we saw, and like, if you took the uh the. 0:59:25.400 --> 0:59:27.560 Achievement to over the ones, I bet yeah, they're the 0:59:27.560 --> 0:59:29.760 ones you bet. I bet five already, I bet five. 0:59:29.840 --> 0:59:31.920 I bet five about I don't know if you agree 0:59:31.920 --> 0:59:33.360 with this, but I think this is a better year 0:59:33.400 --> 0:59:36.240 than most to play some of these exactness because I 0:59:36.440 --> 0:59:38.000 have such limited. 0:59:37.640 --> 0:59:39.479 If we feel like there's limited teams in the NFC, 0:59:39.680 --> 0:59:41.960 there are limited teams in the NFC that I think 0:59:42.000 --> 0:59:42.960 can actually go there. 0:59:42.960 --> 0:59:45.400 So look, I think there is a Big three, but 0:59:45.520 --> 0:59:47.400 I I have the forty, I have the Eagles and 0:59:47.400 --> 0:59:49.280 the Cowboys. A little bit ahead of where I think 0:59:49.280 --> 0:59:51.320 the forty nine ers are. So I chose those two 0:59:51.320 --> 0:59:52.880 teams to key in on. 0:59:53.360 --> 0:59:53.880 I did it. 0:59:53.920 --> 0:59:56.400 And Eagles over Bengals at fifty two to one and 0:59:56.480 --> 0:59:59.640 Eagles over Chargers one hundred and twenty to one, Cowboys 0:59:59.680 --> 1:00:03.440 over ninety to one, Cowboys over Ravens two hundred, and 1:00:03.440 --> 1:00:04.800 Cowboys over Chargers two. 1:00:04.960 --> 1:00:06.240 These are awesome bets to have. 1:00:06.280 --> 1:00:09.240 In pocket, though how much fun are those bets they 1:00:09.280 --> 1:00:11.320 get to get me to the playoffs with both those 1:00:11.360 --> 1:00:15.400 teams and their funnest phenomenal the one. 1:00:15.320 --> 1:00:16.920 They're talking about these I bets you can get so 1:00:17.080 --> 1:00:19.040 just just real quick to get off on a side, 1:00:19.040 --> 1:00:21.280 like the if you go to DraftKings and you click 1:00:21.320 --> 1:00:24.040 on the division specials and then they have an exact 1:00:24.240 --> 1:00:27.880 order tab in there, Like so if you're super bullish 1:00:27.960 --> 1:00:30.520 on a division winner, and you're super bullish on who's 1:00:30.560 --> 1:00:33.560 going to be last, like you can just bet both 1:00:33.600 --> 1:00:36.280 of the teams in the middle at like these five 1:00:36.320 --> 1:00:39.720 and six to ones or whatever and like guarantee yourself. Well, 1:00:39.720 --> 1:00:41.600 I mean, obviously you can go so, but like you know, 1:00:41.640 --> 1:00:43.720 you would be basically putting your convictions in play. And 1:00:43.760 --> 1:00:45.800 these bets that are like five and six to one, 1:00:46.040 --> 1:00:50.120 and so you know if you really are if you're like, no, absolutely, 1:00:50.200 --> 1:00:53.600 for sure the Jags are gonna win the South and 1:00:53.720 --> 1:00:56.480 for sure, let's just say that you think for sure 1:00:56.520 --> 1:00:58.280 the Texans are going to be dead last or so 1:00:58.320 --> 1:01:00.439 then you can bet the flip flop of the other 1:01:00.440 --> 1:01:02.760 two teams in the middle at like plus three twenty 1:01:02.760 --> 1:01:04.760 five plus four twenty five. Like there's other ones that 1:01:04.800 --> 1:01:06.280 are like five and six to one and somebody that. 1:01:06.320 --> 1:01:08.640 So again you can kind of like explore around with 1:01:08.680 --> 1:01:10.520 some of those things where if you know the first 1:01:10.520 --> 1:01:12.840 in the last, it doesn't really matter what the teams 1:01:12.880 --> 1:01:14.920 are in the middle, Like if you think it's Chiefs 1:01:15.000 --> 1:01:16.680 Raiders and that that you don't really know if it'll 1:01:16.720 --> 1:01:19.400 be Chargers or Broncos. Like it's three to one for 1:01:19.400 --> 1:01:22.040 for Chiefs, Chargers Broncos Raiders, and then it's four to 1:01:22.080 --> 1:01:25.760 one for Chiefs Broncos, Chargers Raiders, right, and so there's 1:01:25.840 --> 1:01:30.760 like all of those Yeah. 1:01:28.800 --> 1:01:31.520 Okay, just to be clear, you're talking order of finish 1:01:31.560 --> 1:01:36.479 in a division, right, Okay, while to figure out what yeah, okay, yeah, gotcha, you. 1:01:36.440 --> 1:01:38.520 Have to bet one through four. So he'd have to 1:01:38.560 --> 1:01:39.360 bet both of those. 1:01:39.400 --> 1:01:40.280 But I hear what you're saying. 1:01:40.360 --> 1:01:42.560 Yeah, yeah, you think it makes sense. Yeah yeah, Just. 1:01:42.480 --> 1:01:44.400 Like if you're confident in the winner and who's going 1:01:44.480 --> 1:01:46.240 to be last, right, and then like you, then you 1:01:46.240 --> 1:01:48.840 can just bet both sides of the of who finishes 1:01:48.880 --> 1:01:51.480 second and third, you're still getting over three to one. 1:01:51.800 --> 1:01:53.760 Like the smallest one that you can play is three 1:01:53.800 --> 1:01:55.720 to one on any of the divisions. 1:01:55.760 --> 1:01:59.080 So yeah, it's a good point. I'm just thinking, what's 1:01:59.120 --> 1:02:01.440 the division that lead off the page? Is what you 1:02:01.560 --> 1:02:05.480 might be the most confident in. I'm guessing most people 1:02:05.520 --> 1:02:07.600 would think it's that Matt doesn't but most people would 1:02:07.600 --> 1:02:10.280 think it's San Francisco, Arizona. Perhaps in the NFC West. 1:02:10.440 --> 1:02:15.040 If you think Chiefs Raiders, the chief Raiders Chiefs or 1:02:15.120 --> 1:02:17.280 Chiefs Raiders, some people think it would be Chiefs Raiders. 1:02:17.320 --> 1:02:19.240 You really think the Raiders are last place in the 1:02:19.320 --> 1:02:19.840 in the a f C. 1:02:21.000 --> 1:02:23.120 I I really do you know? 1:02:23.280 --> 1:02:28.160 I mean, I really is there is? There is? This 1:02:28.200 --> 1:02:30.640 is great? Is there an a f C South Cellar? 1:02:30.920 --> 1:02:32.960 Like you, we love the Jaguars, So the Jaguars will 1:02:32.960 --> 1:02:37.360 be the number one division winner? I think consensus. Is 1:02:37.400 --> 1:02:39.360 there a bottom team in that Division. 1:02:39.520 --> 1:02:41.800 Well, so you would almost play that one, like the 1:02:41.800 --> 1:02:46.000 the varying versions of of like Jags Titans and yeah 1:02:46.080 --> 1:02:50.360 yeah whatever, yeah yeah yeah, something like jack Jags Titans. 1:02:50.360 --> 1:02:50.680 And then. 1:02:52.120 --> 1:02:54.400 Because you could do that NFC East too, Like if 1:02:54.440 --> 1:02:57.320 you're as bullish as me, Eagles Cowboys, you could bet 1:02:57.400 --> 1:03:01.840 both options where it's commanders three jihiens for Giants three commands. 1:03:02.400 --> 1:03:04.400 What was Bengals over Niners and the exactly I would 1:03:04.400 --> 1:03:05.760 play the Bengals over Niners. 1:03:06.400 --> 1:03:08.720 Uh so for me as far as Super Bowl, like, look, 1:03:08.840 --> 1:03:12.120 I'm I could not be higher on this Eagles team. 1:03:12.200 --> 1:03:16.320 I mean, like it is, it's just almost impossible to 1:03:16.480 --> 1:03:19.560 like nitpick other than the fact that they're replacing coordinators. 1:03:19.600 --> 1:03:23.080 But it's like you're replacing coordinators on the most loaded 1:03:23.080 --> 1:03:25.120 team in the NFL, Like that makes the transition a 1:03:25.200 --> 1:03:28.400 lot easier. Whenever you're stepping into the best offensive line 1:03:28.640 --> 1:03:32.000 and the best defensive line and like awesome corners and 1:03:32.080 --> 1:03:34.800 great skill position player, like that makes the transition a 1:03:34.800 --> 1:03:36.440 lot easier than it is for a lot of these 1:03:36.440 --> 1:03:38.880 coordinators that are coming in on all of this. And 1:03:38.960 --> 1:03:41.120 so it's very very hard for me to get past 1:03:41.160 --> 1:03:45.120 the Eagles. So I got the Eagles winning at all, 1:03:45.120 --> 1:03:46.480 and it just kind of is what is on the 1:03:46.560 --> 1:03:48.760 on the AFC side of things, on the SC side 1:03:48.760 --> 1:03:52.120 of things. As long as I as long as like 1:03:52.160 --> 1:03:54.360 the first couple of weeks get by and it looks 1:03:54.440 --> 1:03:56.919 like Joe Burrow is actually Joe Burrow and this calf 1:03:56.920 --> 1:04:00.000 thing is not a lingering thing, then I will say Cincinnati. 1:04:00.240 --> 1:04:04.400 But like, I'm reserving that because these cap injuries can 1:04:04.440 --> 1:04:06.800 be a thing, So I don't want to, like, I 1:04:06.800 --> 1:04:08.160 don't want to like go out on a limb right 1:04:08.160 --> 1:04:10.360 now and say that whenever, so I'll stay I'll say 1:04:10.400 --> 1:04:13.000 Chiefs for now, but I really want to say Cincinnati 1:04:13.040 --> 1:04:14.640 so long as it looks like Joe Burrow's fine. 1:04:14.880 --> 1:04:16.600 And part of me as we're saying this, because like 1:04:16.800 --> 1:04:18.360 I obviously love the Niners too, But part of me 1:04:18.360 --> 1:04:20.600 as we're saying this, I'm thinking, how many times in 1:04:20.640 --> 1:04:22.960 Super Bowl history have we had the same two teams 1:04:23.120 --> 1:04:25.680 play back to back. I know we had the Bills 1:04:25.680 --> 1:04:29.320 and the Cowboys to it. This feels as close to 1:04:29.440 --> 1:04:32.880 a Chief's Eagles repeat. Also because the Eagles. As you're 1:04:32.920 --> 1:04:35.040 talking about the Eagles, man, I'm thinking to myself, I'm 1:04:35.080 --> 1:04:37.240 like They're the kind of team that as soon as 1:04:37.240 --> 1:04:39.960 you watch them for like two drives, you're like, everything 1:04:39.960 --> 1:04:43.640 else that we think is bullshit. They're so good. They're 1:04:43.760 --> 1:04:46.600 so good, and all this other stuff is might just 1:04:46.640 --> 1:04:49.000 be nonsense, and they just keep adding players and that 1:04:49.080 --> 1:04:54.600 Georgia defense. So I guess we close with this. What's 1:04:54.680 --> 1:04:58.920 the consensus opinion that you've heard others have? Like, so, 1:04:59.320 --> 1:05:01.200 you know, we all talk people, we all do shows, 1:05:01.360 --> 1:05:04.600 we all have football guests. What's the opinion you've heard 1:05:05.360 --> 1:05:08.640 over and over again seemingly that you just have the 1:05:08.760 --> 1:05:12.560 hardest time buying into where You're like, how come everybody 1:05:12.640 --> 1:05:15.960 keep saying this is gonna happen? And I just don't 1:05:15.960 --> 1:05:18.680 buy it at all? What's that we'll leave on that? 1:05:19.320 --> 1:05:21.800 Yeah, mineus that this Baltimore Ravens pass game is just 1:05:21.840 --> 1:05:24.000 going to be exponentially better like that, Like all I 1:05:24.120 --> 1:05:27.520 keep hearing is, oh, well, Lamar Lamar wants to throw more. 1:05:27.640 --> 1:05:30.000 Well, great, cool that Lamar wants to throw more. 1:05:30.040 --> 1:05:31.960 Well, Lamar didn't call the place, you know, I mean, 1:05:32.240 --> 1:05:33.640 you know, like Lamar I di can call the play. 1:05:33.760 --> 1:05:36.959 Well, that's great. You know, he's also done extremely well. 1:05:37.760 --> 1:05:42.440 He also doesn't how can I put this excel Yeah. 1:05:41.560 --> 1:05:43.840 You brought it? Oh Noell, I mean we have any idea. 1:05:43.880 --> 1:05:44.800 I mean we don't. 1:05:45.080 --> 1:05:45.720 We don't. 1:05:46.360 --> 1:05:49.440 He might be like everyone's just like, oh this offense, 1:05:49.520 --> 1:05:51.880 h Todd Monk and whatever. It's like, I am not 1:05:51.960 --> 1:05:54.280 buying into the fact that, like, oh, just just because 1:05:54.360 --> 1:05:56.520 Lamar said he wants to throw more and and Todd 1:05:56.560 --> 1:05:58.760 moncan this is going to be a great passing offense 1:05:58.800 --> 1:06:00.560 and it's not even gonna resum but what we've seen 1:06:00.560 --> 1:06:03.520 in the past, well, guess what, Like your best weapon 1:06:03.840 --> 1:06:06.800 is the fact that your quarterback is it's gobile. It's 1:06:06.800 --> 1:06:08.840 like he can create all this stuff on his own. 1:06:08.880 --> 1:06:10.880 So like you would almost be doing yourself a disservice 1:06:11.280 --> 1:06:13.160 if you do not run the offense the way that 1:06:13.240 --> 1:06:16.800 Lamar Jackson is best suited. So for me, it's that 1:06:16.880 --> 1:06:19.440 this like pass game for the for the Ravens is 1:06:19.520 --> 1:06:20.800 gonna be like just blow us away. 1:06:21.000 --> 1:06:22.720 This is an excellent man. I never say what an 1:06:22.720 --> 1:06:24.720 excellent question I've just said, But this is this actually 1:06:24.800 --> 1:06:26.840 has me thinking because I can think of one. 1:06:27.720 --> 1:06:29.240 I think you know exactly where I'm going. 1:06:29.280 --> 1:06:30.320 It's gonna be the same as mine. 1:06:30.360 --> 1:06:31.000 Patriots. 1:06:31.040 --> 1:06:33.560 Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, that wasn't so consensus, 1:06:33.640 --> 1:06:33.840 was it. 1:06:34.080 --> 1:06:37.920 Okay, it's maybe not consensus, it's not consensus. But I 1:06:37.960 --> 1:06:42.320 have heard way more Patriots lost. Yes, I was ever expecting. 1:06:42.360 --> 1:06:45.640 And that includes season long, includes week one because well. 1:06:45.560 --> 1:06:48.200 We just we just heard doctor Bob has one NFL 1:06:48.240 --> 1:06:51.640 pick week one. He's like Patriots and the points at the. 1:06:51.560 --> 1:06:53.480 Eagles, and I think, but no, no, no, they're at home. 1:06:53.480 --> 1:06:53.880 They're at home. 1:06:53.920 --> 1:06:56.000 Oh at home, yeah're at home, right, But I mean, I. 1:06:55.920 --> 1:06:58.960 Think the bet that I've got closest to making so far, 1:06:59.160 --> 1:07:02.160 well was the Seahawk yesterday, but since then it would 1:07:02.200 --> 1:07:02.760 be the Eagles. 1:07:02.840 --> 1:07:04.880 If a three pops, I'll lay of the Eagles, I'll 1:07:04.880 --> 1:07:05.680 play with three of. 1:07:05.640 --> 1:07:09.400 The three will last for a second and a half exactly. 1:07:09.520 --> 1:07:13.720 So I look, all due respect to JVT. I know 1:07:13.840 --> 1:07:16.720 he loves the Patriots. Patriots this year too. I've just 1:07:16.760 --> 1:07:19.439 been if you want to tell me, you're like, eh, 1:07:19.640 --> 1:07:21.440 I don't really know what this Patriot seems gonna be 1:07:21.480 --> 1:07:23.720 there in a tough division, like I think they could 1:07:23.720 --> 1:07:24.200 be a little bit. 1:07:24.400 --> 1:07:25.400 Okay, I'm okay with that. 1:07:25.480 --> 1:07:28.120 Some of these people that are like that think they're 1:07:28.160 --> 1:07:29.760 a legit playoff team. 1:07:29.880 --> 1:07:31.960 I just I can't get there with them. 1:07:32.080 --> 1:07:34.000 Mine is and I don't. Again, this is in the 1:07:34.480 --> 1:07:39.640 league's worst division. So might it end up manifesting? Sure, 1:07:39.640 --> 1:07:42.720 I guess they could. But the universal at least it 1:07:42.840 --> 1:07:46.840 seems like the universal love for the Atlanta Falcons from 1:07:46.960 --> 1:07:50.480 like a million guests this offseason is the one that 1:07:50.560 --> 1:07:51.160 troubles me. 1:07:51.240 --> 1:07:53.400 That do you feel like that simmered down a bit 1:07:53.520 --> 1:07:56.240 a little? I thought about that a couple of weeks ago. 1:07:56.320 --> 1:07:59.439 I just don't know how you immediately think Desmond Ridder 1:07:59.520 --> 1:08:02.160 is going to be good. I just don't. I can't 1:08:02.200 --> 1:08:04.080 make that leap, I guess, is what I'm saying. So 1:08:05.800 --> 1:08:07.640 I just like, where are we doing this? Why does 1:08:07.680 --> 1:08:10.520 everybody have this opinion? So I just want to slow 1:08:10.600 --> 1:08:12.640 everybody's role on that, at least in my head, because 1:08:12.640 --> 1:08:14.240 I keep every time that came up, I'm like, why 1:08:14.320 --> 1:08:16.439 is this? Yeah, we all get together and decides. But 1:08:16.479 --> 1:08:18.000 that was kind of the deal on the Lions if 1:08:18.000 --> 1:08:20.639 you remember last offseason, and it took half the season 1:08:20.680 --> 1:08:22.759 to actually finally kick in right, and then it did 1:08:23.240 --> 1:08:24.680 and they ended up with the season win to lover 1:08:24.720 --> 1:08:26.960 Bol when they're like one in six to begin the season. 1:08:27.000 --> 1:08:27.680 I believe so. 1:08:28.400 --> 1:08:30.200 And that was a great point, you know from from 1:08:30.200 --> 1:08:32.320 Mark here, who we've all talked to a million times, 1:08:32.320 --> 1:08:35.000 but I remember him last summer, right, he was really 1:08:35.000 --> 1:08:35.439 big on. 1:08:35.400 --> 1:08:37.760 The Lions, on what he thought they could do last 1:08:38.120 --> 1:08:38.719 last season. 1:08:38.760 --> 1:08:40.160 And when we talked to him just a couple of 1:08:40.160 --> 1:08:43.240 weeks ago, he was kind of mentioned like, hey, all 1:08:43.320 --> 1:08:45.479 that love that I had for that team is reflected 1:08:45.520 --> 1:08:47.760 in the odds this year, and I can't it's even 1:08:47.840 --> 1:08:50.000 swung too far for him where He's like, I can't 1:08:50.000 --> 1:08:52.360 even get get on that train because the odds have 1:08:52.400 --> 1:08:53.120 swung too far. 1:08:53.520 --> 1:08:56.320 All right, I think we covered Is anything else we 1:08:56.360 --> 1:08:59.040 didn't cover of? Note, like you leave on got all 1:08:59.120 --> 1:08:59.599 my bets? 1:08:59.680 --> 1:09:02.920 Yeah, I mean anything you've bet for Week one? 1:09:03.439 --> 1:09:05.880 Yeah, that's a good question. What's your survivor play? 1:09:05.920 --> 1:09:09.280 Tell us? Yeah, you know what, I haven't. I haven't 1:09:09.320 --> 1:09:12.360 even decided that yet. Yeah, I haven't even I haven't 1:09:12.360 --> 1:09:15.280 even decided that yet. Where I'm gonna go with all that? 1:09:15.360 --> 1:09:17.360 No, I honestly, my Week one the only thing I 1:09:17.360 --> 1:09:19.439 have in the account as of as of right now. 1:09:19.479 --> 1:09:20.040 I did take. 1:09:20.120 --> 1:09:23.640 I took the Eagles at four on the road. I 1:09:23.640 --> 1:09:26.880 guess against the Patriots, like it. Just as soon as 1:09:26.920 --> 1:09:29.320 the number came out, like I just I took it. 1:09:29.320 --> 1:09:30.080 It went to four and a half. 1:09:30.120 --> 1:09:30.559 Now it's back. 1:09:30.680 --> 1:09:32.360 I mean, hell, now it's down to three and a half, 1:09:32.360 --> 1:09:34.360 which I don't know. Maybe I'm on the wrong side here, 1:09:34.400 --> 1:09:36.720 But prove it to me. I guess, like, I mean, 1:09:36.760 --> 1:09:39.360 you know whatever, prove it to me. I guess I don't. 1:09:39.479 --> 1:09:41.840 I think that Juju Smith Schuster was a product of 1:09:41.880 --> 1:09:44.200 having the best quarterback in the NFL throwing the ball 1:09:44.240 --> 1:09:46.799 all season long. So now he's gonna be catching passes 1:09:46.800 --> 1:09:49.360 for mac Jones. Good luck with that, you know. I mean, like, 1:09:49.439 --> 1:09:52.320 I'm just I'm not buying into any of that, any 1:09:52.320 --> 1:09:54.120 of that stuff. So I think the Eagles go in 1:09:54.120 --> 1:09:54.720 and thump them. 1:09:54.840 --> 1:09:57.280 I do too, I did to. Well, Bob's thing was 1:09:57.320 --> 1:10:00.080 about like, oh it was Matt Patricia, Joe Judge and 1:10:00.080 --> 1:10:00.559 all that shit. 1:10:01.400 --> 1:10:04.800 I mean, the consensus argument is that there's gonna be 1:10:04.840 --> 1:10:07.960 a there is a massive gap in what your coordinators 1:10:07.960 --> 1:10:09.400 were from last year to this year. 1:10:09.439 --> 1:10:10.720 I get that. I understand that. 1:10:11.120 --> 1:10:13.479 But Dan though Bill O'Brien has gone through the Nick 1:10:13.520 --> 1:10:17.560 Saban rehabilitation programs, so there is like we know, but 1:10:17.840 --> 1:10:18.240 as far. 1:10:18.160 --> 1:10:20.880 As I know, Bill O'Brien isn't taking snaps under center. 1:10:20.920 --> 1:10:23.120 So like, I think that still applies, and I think 1:10:23.160 --> 1:10:25.880 there's a lot of people that feel because of the coordinators, 1:10:26.200 --> 1:10:28.439 what you saw Mac Jones two years ago and what 1:10:28.479 --> 1:10:32.000 you saw them last year, he's probably somewhere in between 1:10:32.520 --> 1:10:33.200 or closer to. 1:10:33.120 --> 1:10:35.920 The year one, which I think that all makes sense. 1:10:36.000 --> 1:10:38.759 But as we've talked about here, I think you're stuck 1:10:38.760 --> 1:10:40.840 in a very tough division. I think it's still a 1:10:40.960 --> 1:10:43.640 very big, uphill climbed ass this team to do a 1:10:43.680 --> 1:10:44.280 whole lot. 1:10:44.160 --> 1:10:48.080 All right, So this year we're pumped because, by the way, 1:10:48.160 --> 1:10:49.840 Kelly and I do a show called The Numbers Game 1:10:49.840 --> 1:10:53.000 on vsin seven to nine Pacific, seven am to nine 1:10:53.040 --> 1:10:55.600 am Pacific money through Friday ten to noon Eastern, but 1:10:55.680 --> 1:11:00.560 this year on Fridays, Friday morning. If you like this, 1:11:00.560 --> 1:11:02.960 this kind of banter between the three of us, we're 1:11:02.960 --> 1:11:06.080 doing not one, not two, but three segments with Matt 1:11:06.120 --> 1:11:08.960 Brown each and every Friday morning. So right as you 1:11:09.040 --> 1:11:12.280 go into your NFL weekends, uh and uh, correct me 1:11:12.320 --> 1:11:14.439 if I'm wrong. Now this will be in the first hour, 1:11:14.520 --> 1:11:18.640 the DK Network hour. But ten, fifteen, ten thirty, ten 1:11:18.720 --> 1:11:21.240 forty five, So from ten to fifteen to eleven eastern, 1:11:21.320 --> 1:11:24.599 seven fifteen to eight am Pacific, each and every Friday morning, 1:11:24.680 --> 1:11:28.400 the three of us talking nothing but National Football League. 1:11:28.439 --> 1:11:30.320 Cannot wait, and you'll actually be here for that, right, 1:11:30.360 --> 1:11:31.200 you'll come down here. 1:11:31.800 --> 1:11:34.000 I'm gonna be sitting at the big table with you guys, 1:11:34.080 --> 1:11:35.720 and we're gonna yeah, we're gonna be we're gonna be 1:11:35.760 --> 1:11:38.160 rocking it. And haters get ready. I mean, I mean, 1:11:38.280 --> 1:11:41.240 just seriously, I get those angry tweets ready, like I 1:11:41.479 --> 1:11:41.880 can't wait. 1:11:42.040 --> 1:11:42.920 It's gonna be can't wait. 1:11:42.920 --> 1:11:44.719 It's gonna be awesome, and maybe we'll actually get field 1:11:44.760 --> 1:11:48.840 goal kicks and spray tan. The spraytan thing is great. 1:11:49.800 --> 1:11:52.320 The ball listen, the ball is now in Kelly's court. 1:11:52.400 --> 1:11:54.160 This is this is it's you, buddy, buddy. 1:11:54.200 --> 1:11:57.240 The thing is like he's I can tell now I 1:11:57.240 --> 1:11:59.320 know he does, but like he's being sincere. Now he 1:11:59.360 --> 1:12:04.320 will actually do the poll. It's bullshit, exactly complete bullshit. 1:12:05.320 --> 1:12:06.080 Is Matt Brown? 1:12:06.160 --> 1:12:08.519 Always shit? Is it is? 1:12:08.560 --> 1:12:10.760 It's in your you agree that the spring tend We're 1:12:10.800 --> 1:12:12.960 going out there. We'll got there this weekend. Kelly let's 1:12:12.960 --> 1:12:14.840 go the holiday. 1:12:14.960 --> 1:12:17.320 And then outside of Friday, Matt, where can people hear you? 1:12:18.439 --> 1:12:20.719 Uh, We're gonna be on the handle, me and Mike Sommitch. 1:12:20.720 --> 1:12:23.680 Actually for this NFL season four to seven, four to 1:12:23.680 --> 1:12:27.200 seven Pacific, seven to ten Eastern Saturdays will be a 1:12:27.200 --> 1:12:30.519 big NFL preview. We also have the Contest Show, so 1:12:30.560 --> 1:12:32.559 we'll be talking about the contest, entries and things like 1:12:32.600 --> 1:12:34.960 that that go on. And then on Sunday we'll lead 1:12:35.000 --> 1:12:37.240 you into Sunday Night Football. We'll talk some Monday Night 1:12:37.240 --> 1:12:38.800 football and then by then the odds for the next 1:12:38.840 --> 1:12:40.280 week will be coming out, so we'll be looking at 1:12:40.280 --> 1:12:40.800 those as well. 1:12:40.880 --> 1:12:44.400 Nice you guys do your under promoted golf podcast during 1:12:44.439 --> 1:12:45.559 the NFL season or no. 1:12:47.840 --> 1:12:48.240 I don't. 1:12:48.439 --> 1:12:50.439 It's hard for me to bet golf in the fall. 1:12:50.640 --> 1:12:52.559 Kelly might bet a little bit of golf in the fall. 1:12:52.840 --> 1:12:55.240 Would you like me to translate that We're not going 1:12:55.280 --> 1:12:56.040 to see a lot of Matt. 1:12:56.040 --> 1:12:59.080 It's going to be mainly me and West. Yeah. I 1:12:59.080 --> 1:13:01.240 think that Matt will be there for the Ryder Cup special. 1:13:01.280 --> 1:13:04.280 And alright, Matt sending sending your invoice? 1:13:04.960 --> 1:13:07.599 Yeah sounds good? All right, coming in had a cocktail 1:13:07.640 --> 1:13:08.400 for you behind me, for. 1:13:08.800 --> 1:13:11.920 Poor mad Brown, for Kelly Biman, good luck with all 1:13:11.960 --> 1:13:13.840 your best. Can't wait for the NFL season to start. 1:13:13.840 --> 1:13:14.679 Thank you for listening.