WEBVTT - Girls Talk, 'Boys Talk: Changes Ahead 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:05.280 The following He is a production of Dallascowboys dot Com 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:07.119 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:10.160 Cowboys. 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:16.480 This is Girls Talk, Boys Talk, presented by Jigsaw Dating, 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:21.560 preferred dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys, and broadcasting live 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:26.400 from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star. Now your 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:33.760 hosts Christie Scales, Aisha Morrison, Nicole Hutcheson and Jess Navares. 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:38.640 The SAP Cowboys Nation. Happy Thursday. Welcome to Girls Talk, 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:41.479 Boys Talk, presented by Jigsaw, the preferred dating partner of 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:45.440 the Dallas Cowboys. Right here in the SWBC studio, I'm Nicauaderson, 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:51.280 Isis Morrison, Jess Navares and Christie Scales, Ladies, I miss y'all. 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:52.040 How y'all doing? 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:54.800 I guess it has been a little it's been like 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:55.240 a week. 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:57.840 It's been more than a week, technically a day. It's 0:00:57.840 --> 0:00:59.840 been a week and a day in a long time. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:01.400 Too bad, nothing's happened, huh. 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:06.960 I know, right, you know, we what to talk about, 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:10.080 and I so glad christ you can laugh about it. 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:13.000 I think that I'm always amused when people say, what 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:14.479 do you guys do in the off season? 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:17.399 It's like there is no true off season. 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:19.920 In the NFL, and not with the team, most certainly 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:23.199 not with this team, and certainly not with the week 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:25.399 of the owners meetings, you. 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:26.600 Know, with the rules changes. 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:28.600 And then of course at the owners meetings you've got 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:32.600 the Joneses and the head coaches for the Cowboys, you 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:35.959 know that, you know, make their statements and then everyone 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:36.760 takes off with that. 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:38.200 So there's a lot going on. 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:40.200 Yeah, quite a few new rule changes ahead of the 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:43.600 twenty twenty four season. Let's start with the kickoff rule change, 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:47.080 though first they've moved it to where now, of course 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:49.480 kickers will still kick off the from the thirty five 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:53.440 yard line. The other ten players from the kicking team 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:56.240 would line up at the opposing forty, and then the 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:59.040 way that the receiving team will be lined up is 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:02.680 at least nine will line up on in a five 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:06.040 yard area between the thirty and the thirty five yard line, 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:08.720 and the kicker cannot cross the fifty, and the rest 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:11.800 of the kicking team along with those and set up 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:14.400 in that zone can't move until the ball hits the 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:17.480 ground fielded or lands in the end zones. 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:19.840 A lot of different movie parts, but the. 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:22.240 Same as the XFL does, I think they took the 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:24.440 data as far as that just making sure there's not 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:28.800 that many full speed collisions to kind of prevent injuries. 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:29.680 What do y'all think about that? 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:32.160 And how do y'all think this kind of helps the Cowboys. 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:34.639 I'm excited about it because it brings back one of 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:37.800 the truly exciting plays in the NFL. And so I 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:42.360 just remember every time you'd have, for example, a Devin 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:47.160 Hester to drop back, you know, Patterson now just signed. 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:48.560 Yeah, I mean, that's it. 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.040 It's going to be dynamic, I think, And I think 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:54.680 it's also going to change strategy as well. You know, 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:56.960 you're not just I think it's going to change the 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:59.239 way people watch games. You're gonna have to get back 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:01.960 from your bathroom break or your concession break, or your 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:05.360 trip to the fridge after a score to get back 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:08.000 because you're going to want to see the kickoff because 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:10.200 it's not going to be an automatic touch back as 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:12.760 it's basically been for a couple of years. And we 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:15.680 know Brandon Aubrey set a record last year with ninety 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:20.160 nine touchbacks, you know, and I also we can yeah, 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:26.200 but the same wanna and so no, I'm excited about it. 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:29.280 I just wondered if you guys think it's a positive change. 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:31.880 Oh yeah, I mean, look here, here's the thing about 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:35.520 the rule change is it gives opportunity for the special 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:38.040 teams guys to really show their importance in this game. 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.000 Because I think when you're just getting touched back after 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:43.360 touch back after touchback, you truly don't appreciate how much 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:46.320 special teams is doing for the game and how much 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.920 it does impact the game. So I think giving those 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:52.640 guys a Cavante Turpin, if he doesn't take more of 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:55.240 a role on offense, we don't know. Yeah, just assuming 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.760 it's still him, more of an opportunity to really take 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.760 the ball further. And Christy, I think it was you 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:04.600 that told me that what was the. 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:07.320 Percentage twenty one percent? 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.760 Yeah, that were actually not touchbacks last season, right right, Yeah, 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:12.440 that's that needed a change. 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:14.440 And then the other thing was in the Super Bowl 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:17.000 there were what thirteen kickoffs and then we're returned, And 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:20.920 so a lot of observers thought, Okay, that's the signal 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:23.200 for the change. If anything is going to change with 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:26.040 the kickoff, it's going to be this because you had 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:30.000 this high score, you know, Super Bowl, and kickoffs were 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:32.560 litter kickoff returns were a non factor. 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:35.400 I also think shout out to Bones Fossil for we 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:38.599 were heading this change, because that should show you how 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:41.360 much of a gem he really is on this coaching staff. 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:44.360 He's so smart, he's innovative, he's always thinking ahead, and 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:46.800 I just think he doesn't get enough love and appreciation 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:49.720 from the outside for everything that he not only contributes 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:52.000 for the Cowboys, but really across the NFL as well. 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:54.640 And this thing going with the XFL, this is something 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:57.839 that this is not something that just came up within 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:00.000 the off season. I remember us having a long time 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.600 talk about it at training camp out in Oxnard. And 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:06.719 what happens is during training camp there'll be two, maybe 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:09.840 three times where the coordinators are made available to the 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:11.880 media and they'll put them on the podium. 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.080 It'll be there on the tennis court. 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:17.719 So it's it's a similar setting to what Mike McCarthy, 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:21.280 the Cowboys head coach, does with his daily press conferences. 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:25.159 But had been talking with Coach Fossil about. 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:29.040 This and it was like the day before his scheduled 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:32.040 press conference, and so we see each other the next 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:33.960 day is getting ready to go. He's like, hey, you know, 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:36.600 I think I really want to talk about this, you know, 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:40.479 stuff with how the XFL does. It's like, okay, I'll 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:42.400 ask you about it so that you can kind of 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:44.320 be on record about it. 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:47.120 So this isn't something that is just on a whim. 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:50.840 It's something that has been studied and put a lot 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:52.000 of a thought into it. 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:53.440 Aisha, what were you thinking. 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:57.600 I'm excited, like just like you, I think just mentioned it. 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:01.119 Special teams is an element of the game that doesn't get. 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.880 Enough attention, I feel like and also too. 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:05.040 I mean, if you look at a lot of the 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:07.600 playoffs games this past year, special teams was the difference 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:08.640 even in the Super Bowl. 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:10.599 So special teams be a difference maker. 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:13.480 Start and field position plays a huge role in time 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:16.360 and possession, and I think a team like the Cowboys 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:20.280 who started at their own twenty or negative to that 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:23.080 sometimes a lot this year may be able to benefit 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:25.599 from getting some better starting field position and being able 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:27.160 to flip the field and things like that. 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:28.080 So that's exciting. 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:31.880 Furthermore, when you mentioned that Bones was a part of 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:34.719 this coming into play, don't think he wasn't a part 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:34.920 of it. 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:35.479 For a reason. 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:37.520 I'm very curious to see what he has up his sleeve. 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:39.560 You know, he's a sneaky dog in some of the 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.400 ways that he's able to implement some trick plays and 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.960 things he can take advantage of. So I am also 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:47.440 curious to see what he does with it the rule 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:50.880 changes and how he kind of sifts through those and 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:53.320 is able to navigate those to get some positive yardists 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:55.800 for the Cowboys and be able to have this offense 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:57.680 starting off at a better point in the field. 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:00.320 Yeah, and it's really going to change I think how 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.880 you build the team as well. I think it's going 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.159 to affect a couple of the bottom of the roster 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:09.840 kind of the fifty one through fifty three composition, because 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:12.440 you're not just going to have one person back to 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:13.200 field the ball. 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:14.320 You're going to have two. 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:18.240 Like for example, this past year, it would have been Cavante, 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:22.000 Turpin and probably Recodoubtle, each one taking a half. You know, 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:24.280 they're setting up at the goal line or the five 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:28.760 yard line to return it a Deuce Bond, except that 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:32.920 Deuce was inactive most games last year. But if he, 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:35.920 you know, is going to have a role in this. Again, 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.840 I'm kind of taking last year and projecting, but I'm 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:40.760 just saying it can affect things like that. The other 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:45.320 thing is Nicole, how you mentioned the kickers back at 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:48.600 the thirty yard line, and of course you're ten teammates 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:51.640 that would be covering. They would be running thirty yards 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:54.840 downfield to get to the spot where everyone is going 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:58.120 to be starting. Now that this okay, so the kicker 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:00.480 has to stay back there. But those ten guys, they're 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:02.640 already on the other side of the field and they're 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:04.760 five yards away from the guys who are going to 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:09.440 block them. So you could go with some bigger coverage guys. 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:12.640 You don't have to have these guys who are fast 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:17.280 and can kind of get around guys. 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:20.080 What would you do personnel wise because of you know, 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.040 the close quarters that they have to work with. 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:25.200 Now, well, someone like Sam Williams, Now we know that 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:27.560 he could he can do it because he's fast, and 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:29.560 I mean, you have him at gunner on punts for 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:33.360 goodness sake, But that kind of body type would be 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:37.400 more useful. I think Sam athletically is a freak the 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:39.240 way that he can run down and do that. Most 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.400 guys of that size can't run like that. But it's 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.040 really more of a scrimmage play and that was part 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:47.760 of the deal. This is more of a scrimmage play 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:51.320 in terms of you're five yards away from your opponent, 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:55.960 kind of like a linebacker from an offensive lineman, and 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:58.800 so I think it can change. You're still going to 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:02.200 have your tied in your linebackers, but do you have 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:05.320 you know, are you are you going to have like 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:10.240 a Jalen Tolbert who plays gunner, but would he be 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:13.160 a guy that you would use in coverage when there's 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:16.480 only five yards apart. I think that the implications for 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:20.839 this are far more than making it an exciting play 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:24.120 and now we'll have seven, eight, nine, maybe ten returns 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:27.960 in a game. I think the implication reaches further in 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:29.560 terms of how you compose your roster. 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:32.760 One of the cons that I wrote down was it 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:35.840 would take away from onside kick opportunities when you're in 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:36.840 those close games. 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:39.000 But they figured for that. 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:43.240 So if you want an on side kick, now you 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:45.480 have to declare it and you do it from back 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:47.959 at your own thirty Okay, So there aren't going to 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:52.440 be surprise on side kicks anymore, and so I think 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:59.360 that's a positive because the dangerous plays certainly kickoff returns 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:01.960 or you know, cause the long the way it previously 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:05.520 was where you're running downfield, but when you're doing an 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.560 on side kick, there's some guys jobs where it is 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:12.120 to take out the person in front of them so 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:14.040 that it can open it up for the guy coming 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:16.360 in behind to take the ball, and so those are 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:19.320 very they can be dangerous plays. 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:20.199 And so. 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:23.640 You know, you're still going to have the same kind 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:27.960 of format for it and alignment and everything stays the 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:30.360 same with that, except that it can't be a surprise 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:31.679 anymore and teams. 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:33.040 Can be more prepared for it. 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:37.120 The other thing is it won't succeed as much because 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:39.199 it won't be a surprise and everyone will have their 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:40.200 hands teams out there. 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:42.640 Yeah, and it seems like the league is doing everything 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:44.840 that they need to do to take precautions as far 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:45.559 as injuries. 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:46.600 They also took. 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:48.880 Away the hip drop tackle will be a penalty. 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:52.800 Now some thoughts on good, good, good, bout dang time, 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:55.760 that's my thought on it. Yeah, I mean, how many 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:59.240 times did we have to see this happen and nearly 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.760 either injure a player. And I'm not even talking just 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:05.080 the Cowboys. I'm talking throughout the course of even last 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.800 season when you look back and think about it nearly 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:12.200 injure somebody or actually injure somebody. How many times did 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.920 that have to happen until it was declared that hey, 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.720 that's dangerous and that shouldn't be happening. And I understand 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:21.360 the momentum part of this game where sometimes it just happens, 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:25.520 but no, look, I'm all about player safety. I think 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.280 it's about time it needed to happen. It was dangerous, 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:32.160 and when you're talking about getting pulled from behind where 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:35.679 you can't see the momentum shift, I mean you're talking knees, ankles, 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:39.040 hip injuries that just are unnecessary and preventable. So I'm 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:40.959 glad that that's finally a rule. 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:41.360 Yeah. 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:43.560 I feel like a lot of players don't like it, 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:48.120 of course, and I understand them feeling like, you know, dang, 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:51.200 this is another rule especially too. I think another rule 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.880 change that's important is the rough and the passer and 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:56.520 stuff being able to be reviewed, because I do think 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:58.240 the defensive players are starting to be. 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:00.400 Like, I don't know how we played defense. 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:03.439 You can't hit nobody, you can't tackle on anyone, or 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:06.160 anything like that. I definitely have talked to multiple players 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:09.160 about it. Gotten some mixed bags. A mixed bag as 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:12.200 far as the information. But me, when I look at 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:14.840 the tackle you mentioned that you know a lot of 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:17.040 it's from behind. Yeah, because guys don't want to get 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:19.560 beat and when your body goes into like fight or 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:22.040 flight panic, they're just trying to get them down to 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:24.920 the ground. And it's interesting because I'm very petite and 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:28.839 in the military when we did combatives, literally how they 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:32.160 tackle is something I was taught because I'm so small, 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.840 and basically you're just throwing your weight. I mean, you're 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:38.480 just grabbing them and pulling them down. And what you're 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:42.319 guaranteeing is that that person's unstable on the other side, 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:44.520 and that's why you're seeing the brakes. That's why you're 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:48.080 seeing things like that go on. So I again, like 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:52.000 I am for player safety, I understand the player. Defensive 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:54.600 players are kind of over it at the same time. 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:57.520 So it's it's gonna be interesting how it's handled. But 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:01.240 I will say the influx of that tackle, like and 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:03.959 I'm trying to figure out if this is something that's 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:07.760 been happening and it wasn't injuring people, so we weren't 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:11.200 as hyper focused on it, or we've just seen this 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:13.880 last couple of years up ticking. 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:16.720 Mark Andrews for the Baltimore Ring. I think it's a 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:19.520 big example from this past season, and of course Tony 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:21.440 Pollard it's a technique. 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:24.560 Thing as well, like don't get it twisted, I think. 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:26.240 I mean, we've only been in the locker room for 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:28.960 two years at this point, but some of this stuff 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:33.040 is just get them down to the ground, like I mean, unfortunately, 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.800 and I'm just I'm really curious to see if this 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:38.720 is if this is gonna help. The situation does put 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:40.480 pressure on players, it does make them have to be 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:44.040 a little bit more technically signed with things. But I'm 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.240 kind of sick of seeing leg breaks and stuff too. 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:48.240 Oh yeah, I ain't even gonna hold you. And I 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:52.240 don't know if we've seen this type of like and 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:54.840 it's it's the way because even so people have not 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:58.160 gotten injured, like Patrick Mahomes got tackled with a hip 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:02.679 drop tackle in the Super Bowl and last year and 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:05.760 he had to he played through that ankle being sprung sprung, 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:10.200 but like he he could have injured himself as well. 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:11.400 He could have been out of that game. 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:13.360 Then the rule would have changed last year. 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.920 Right, and that's and I think that it probably knowing 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:20.280 them have probably played a role. Like but I'm just saying, yeah, 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:22.640 I mean this is I think about even when Aaron 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:26.240 Rodgers got hit in the in the collarbone and it 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:27.680 was that's when the rough. 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:28.440 In the passer things. 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:33.160 They they they're going to protect these offensive players and 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:37.680 Tom Brady al and things like that. So yeah, for sure, 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:42.080 I just I'm I'm very up and down about it 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:44.360 because I get it from a logical standpoint. 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:45.640 I hear the players. 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:47.280 Though, but then I'm like, I, no one will see 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:49.160 nobody's ankle being backwards. 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:49.400 Again, y'all. 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.920 I'm that's the kind of play though, that could be 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:55.840 a difference maker. Now with them knowing it's officially a role, 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.320 you're going to get penalized for it. It's going to 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:01.120 be interesting to see the discipline, especially in the teams 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.840 that you know are more notorious for doing it. 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:05.040 The Lions. 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:09.280 Oh uh, look, am I wrong? Am I wrong? So 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:12.720 all I'm saying is, look, let's keep an eye on 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:15.760 the penalties and how that's going to impact players or 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.320 teams that don't want to be disciplined in making sure 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:20.960 that they're not doing that and I'm interested to see 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:24.200 the scapegoats that they try to find to still kind 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:26.760 of tackle from behind without making it look like it's 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:27.480 a hip drop. 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:28.440 Toll, would you say? 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:31.320 Discipline and penalties part of it, The bigger part of 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:33.400 it for the players, and why it's going to change 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:35.880 moving forward, is because of fines. 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:39.160 So it's just like you can be fined for. 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:44.080 These dangerous plays like the helmet to helmet for the 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:47.600 roughing the passer, and that's what gets the player's attentions. 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:50.600 The only thing they like worse than a player's attention 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:52.840 is the only thing they hate worse than being penalized 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:56.960 is getting that note, that FedEx letter and their locker 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:00.960 and the money's automatically taken away. You can appeal it, 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.200 but basically later on down the line, it's going to 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:10.200 be deducted from your paycheck. That's why it's going to change, and. 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:10.040 The players will adapt. 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:13.520 They adapted with the horse caller, which is the Roy 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:17.840 Williams rule. The longtime cowboy fans know that's unofficially. 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:21.080 The Roy Williams rule. We do you see horse callers sometimes? 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:21.400 Still? 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:25.160 Sure, unfortunately, but not like you did before. Do you 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:29.960 still see helmet to helmet shots unfortunately, yes, but nothing 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:33.440 like you saw before. It became not only a penalty 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:37.160 but a finable one. And so that's why this hip 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:40.080 drop rule is really going to have effect. Is not 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:42.840 only is it going to be fifteen yards with a 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:46.280 yellow flag, it's a potential and probable fine. 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:49.480 Yeah, So what does this do for these position coaches? 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:53.760 Because I should talk about it just being more discipline, technical, 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:57.120 technically sound. So what more does that do for these 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:58.440 position coaches that have to teach? 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:01.560 You know this, Well, I'm curious about it because a 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:04.840 lot of the time, like Jess was mentioning, it's from behind, 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:07.400 so guys don't want to get beat. 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:11.080 Nobody want to be highlight real baby. But I also. 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:15.400 Think it's I'm curious to find out how they're going 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:20.040 to tackle, because if they tackle properly, you're pushing someone forward, 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:24.000 mostly positive, and that's why a lot of them are 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:26.600 tackling in the way that they're tackling, because they're pulling 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:27.760 them back basically. 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:31.119 So I obviously we don't know yet. 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:33.439 Hopefully, you know, maybe when we get a player on 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:37.200 we can ask, hey, what how is this going to change? 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:40.920 What techniques are they gonna teach these guys because you can't. 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:42.399 Tackle like you're taught to tackle. 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.840 You can't form tackle because if you form tackle, baby, 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:48.639 you're gonna push people forward. So it's like, I wonder, 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:50.680 I don't I don't know how it's gonna work. Maybe 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:52.560 it's trying to push them to the outside. Maybe it's 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:55.080 coming from the side, but then you would have to 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:56.280 be able to be as fast. 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:59.240 As they If you push them forward, they're gonna get 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.400 several more young, but they gonna get fifteen. 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:03.960 Yeah, right, it's going to be fifteen if it's a penalty. 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:05.479 Do you feel like it might be tripping? 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:06.480 They might start tripping? 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:09.400 Yeh yeah. 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:13.199 What about guys for for example, like a d'mon who 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:15.119 was smaller than a lot of the guys he had 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:15.560 to take on. 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:17.200 What do you do about that as well? 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:19.720 That's no shade to the moon. 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:22.600 That was not shade. It's not meant to be. But 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:25.520 what you do you know, I mean, yeah, I don't, like, 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:27.600 we don't know yet. Yeah, I don't know what it's 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:28.480 gonna look like yet. 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.640 Probably tripping, like like you were mentioning, kind of going 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:34.240 for the fee area and kind of making them stumble. 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:37.400 But even then I mean, if you're if you're doing 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:39.880 what you're paid to do, you're gonna get past that too. 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:42.200 As far as a wide receiver goes, you're gonna get 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:44.439 out of that and learn how to regain your footing. 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:46.600 But it does, so it's gonna be interesting to see. 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:49.240 So I hope it doesn't go from hips to knees. 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:51.280 That's my biggest thing is I don't want to start 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:54.919 seeing tackles hit the knees because that's pretty much just I. 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:57.160 Think that's I think that's might be the only choice 0:18:57.320 --> 0:19:01.000 because again, like they can't go up here because the 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:03.320 horse collars, they can't pull them from behind in that way. 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:06.520 They can't tackle them like we were talking about. They 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:08.400 can't like wrap them up and then pull them back 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:09.800 or swivel or swing. 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:13.119 Does it almost change the defensive formations that they're gonna 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:15.280 have to work with to ensure that more people I 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:17.719 guess are in front of the receiver as opposed to 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:19.159 kind of tackling from behind. 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:22.159 Now that's dangerous, that's too much room for them. 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:24.399 I mean, I'm just saying, no, you're right, but that 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:25.720 we can't. 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:29.840 You can't reinvent the wheel, baby, like football can't become. 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:32.640 And that's where I I that's where I get where 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:36.840 the players are, especially the defensive players are like, holy crap, bro, 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:39.960 Like we literally were just trying to figure out we're 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:43.320 learning how we're now learning how to tackle qbs. Now 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:45.680 we don't know what's the sure way to tackle QB 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:48.480 and now you're telling me I can't. And then you 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:50.720 also got to think, so, you guys are running backs 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:51.280 in this league. 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:54.600 This baby, they've running through arm tackling. They don't care 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:57.760 about none of that. So it's it's it is. It's 0:19:57.760 --> 0:19:59.040 a disadvantage to the defense. 0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:01.720 It is it's just fantasies the defense, and I understand 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:06.000 their frustration. I don't know. I don't know it's gonna be. 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:08.000 It's gonna be in football. 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:10.439 It's also one more thing for the officiating crew that 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:11.040 they have to. 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:13.480 Look at to so and will it be. 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:16.200 I don't know what. 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:19.000 I don't know if it would be automatically reviewable. 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:21.280 It hasn't been addressed yet as. 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:24.479 To whether that would be uh possibly review from up 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:27.920 top or or not. So I hope that's a question 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:30.879 have to to follow up on find out it's gonna slow. 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:31.160 Down the game. 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:35.840 Sotimes I say out over, just take a little bit. 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:36.359 I hope not. 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:40.119 Is there another rule that was changed, Chrissy that kind 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:40.719 of stood out to you? 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:43.639 Oh, I just think having a third challenge for a 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:48.680 coach if you if you get in the past, each 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:51.840 team a coach has two challenges. If the first two 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.960 are successful, then you get a third. Now only one 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:56.880 of them has to one of the first two has 0:20:56.960 --> 0:21:00.439 to be successful, and you're allowed a third. So I 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:02.760 think that that could could definitely gain to play. 0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:03.840 We could have used that. 0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:06.200 I don't know what game it was that the Cowboys 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:09.160 played towards the end of the year, and he was like, 0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:11.840 I felt like if Mike McCarthy would have challenged, you 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:12.440 would have won. 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:14.399 It was a spot they had. I don't know what 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:16.360 game it was, but they had a bad spot. 0:21:16.240 --> 0:21:16.840 Towards the end. 0:21:16.960 --> 0:21:17.800 I don't know it was. 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:19.800 It was a it was a later game in the 0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:21.960 in the season, and it was they got a bad 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:24.440 spot and we were in the spots was bad all 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:27.200 day and then but one of the spots was a 0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:29.000 pivotal point in the game and it was like. 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:34.120 Dang you, I don't know which game it was, but anyway, it's. 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:36.280 Another one just real quickly, because I know we got 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:38.800 to go to break. But now you know how sometimes 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:41.880 you're watching and you see the play clock clicking down right, 0:21:42.000 --> 0:21:44.880 and it's like, did they get the snap off? And 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:49.040 now that is actually reviewable, so that could play, yes, 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:52.320 that they could play a factor in a in a 0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:56.600 game at some point this season. The back judge, there 0:21:56.600 --> 0:21:58.639 are seven officials on the field. The back judge is 0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:02.160 the one that's like literally thirty yards downfield behind the defense, 0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:06.080 behind the safeties, and so he's surveying the whole field 0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:08.360 in front of him. All twenty two players and six 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:10.680 other officials are in front of him, and so he's 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:13.480 looking at the play clock and so when he sees 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:16.040 it go down to zero, he glances back to see 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:19.120 if the ball has been snapped. And sometimes there's literally 0:22:19.640 --> 0:22:23.320 as much time in between, you know, the clock going 0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:26.520 down in the ball being snapped. Now, can it can 0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:29.040 be reviewed in case the back judge didn't quite get 0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:29.320 it right? 0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:33.000 Real quick? Sorry, I was curious about Mike's challenge record 0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:36.439 since he's been in Dallas. His total challenge record throughout 0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:39.280 his coaching career, he's fifty one out of one oh three. 0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:46.280 Since he's been in Dallas, he has challenged seven, eight, nine, ten, 0:22:46.920 --> 0:22:50.640 ten challenges and he's won one, two, three, four. 0:22:50.680 --> 0:22:55.040 Oh, so forty percent. In four seasons. He's only challenged 0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:55.600 ten times. 0:22:55.680 --> 0:22:57.960 Yep. Yeah, and there's been times where. 0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:01.480 Yep, and it looks like ouch more because now you've 0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:02.120 got me. Yeah. 0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:05.760 Anyway, I mean it's interesting his like, the most challenges 0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:08.080 he had was in twenty twenty one, where he had 0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:10.440 five and he only got two out of the five 0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:13.399 that year. But last year he only had one challenge 0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:16.280 and he was one for one, so technically one hundred percent. 0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:17.040 We love that. 0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:20.880 Alright, we're gonna take our first break of next we're 0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:24.159 talking running bags. 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We want 0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:29.840 to hear it. 0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:33.200 No, that was Isaiah's stand back by the way, if you. 0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:36.440 Play for you one more time, so listen. 0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:42.680 Yeah, yeahs Isaiah, Yeah, he did it on Talking Cowboys. 0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:43.720 I love it. 0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:45.560 Also, thank you, Chris. 0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:50.080 The expiration the change in reviewing the end is game 0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:52.560 clock and not play clock, So that has nothing to 0:25:52.640 --> 0:25:56.040 do with the back judge watching the play so end 0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:56.480 of games. 0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:59.320 So thank you Chris for that correction on that. Thank you, 0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:00.280 thank you, thank you all right. 0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:04.119 Reports from Michael Gelkin from Dallas Morning News actually earlier, 0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:06.720 I think that was Tuesday. He said that there could 0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:11.120 be a reunion between Ezekiel Elliott and the Dallas Cowboys. 0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:14.240 He asked in the owner's meeting this week. Of course, 0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:18.040 Jerry and Steven they did not confirm or deny that report. 0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:21.119 What are y'all's thoughts? Do y'all think that there could be? 0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:23.000 Would you all like to see a reunion? 0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:24.119 I know Jess is over there. 0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:28.080 I wouldn't be shocked. That's where I'm at with it. 0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:36.520 Is look, just do something, Just do something. We can't 0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:40.440 just look. The Cowboys can't continue to just sit here 0:26:41.160 --> 0:26:44.119 and lose players and not fill the holes and the 0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:46.639 gaps that are needed and expect to get better that 0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:49.440 way and solely rely on the draft, Because that's a 0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:51.720 lot of pressure to put on your draft class that. 0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:56.240 I'm sorry last year's draft class didn't live up to 0:26:56.320 --> 0:26:59.320 expectations to be plug and play players. It makes me 0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:01.720 a little worried that that could be the case with 0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:04.000 some of the players in this draft class. I'm not 0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:06.199 saying all, but that's a lot of pressure to put 0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:08.119 on a first year player that's learning what it is 0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:10.360 to be in the NFL. You have to give these 0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:13.399 first year players grace no matter what your stance is. 0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:15.680 They can be plug and play players, but they need 0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:18.280 grace in the NFL to learn a new language, to 0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:20.440 understand a new system, to understand what it is to 0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:23.240 be an NFL player and an NFL player for the 0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:27.800 Dallas Cowboys two different things here. So to bring a 0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:30.399 guy like Zeke back, if they decide to do so, 0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:34.359 you're getting a guaranteed guy that knows what it is 0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:37.120 to be here. You're already paying cap. 0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:38.959 Space for him. You're already paying him. 0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:42.119 Technically, you might as well use that money so you 0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:46.800 don't have to pay anymore. It makes sense. I know 0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:50.400 there was questions about his productivity and what he's able 0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:54.440 to do. Still, look, it's Ezekiel Elliott. He's not the 0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:56.760 Zeke we once knew. We knew that, but when he 0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:59.520 was here, guess who was number one scoring in the 0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:03.200 red zone. Ezekiel Elliott in the Dallas Cowboys. So you 0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:05.320 can't tell me all that juice is taken out of him. 0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:08.240 He was with the Patriots last year wasn't his best year. 0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:12.000 Wasn't the Patriots last year wasn't Belichick's best year at either. 0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:14.960 But the point is is, if you can get a 0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:17.040 plug and play player that knows how to come in, 0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:20.720 knows your system, knows your coach, the locker room loves him, 0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:23.920 do it because you need to do something to get better. 0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:26.119 And I think when you have an Ezekiel Elliott in 0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:28.000 the locker room, you're a better team because of it. 0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:30.399 And you guys know how I feel about Zeke in 0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:33.000 the locker room. Great guy, great leader, He can teach 0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:35.840 the younger guys. I mean, he's willing to do what 0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:38.160 he needs to do and what more can you want? 0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:40.600 I'm off my sofa. 0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:44.640 It's two things for me. There is some concern about 0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:47.080 what the running back room looks like right now. 0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:49.680 Believe you have duce Vaughan Hunter Lipke, who I thought 0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:52.240 showed some good flashes last year and kind of showed 0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:55.280 maybe if he improves as that full back position that 0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:58.719 he can do some things also too. You always obviously 0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:02.240 brought back Regodad, but the buck stops there, and so 0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:06.320 to that point, es, I mean, experience and things of 0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:07.880 that nature do play a role in there. 0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:10.040 So technically it makes sense. 0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:12.760 But I also need the Cowboys to stop being that 0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:16.200 person that we know from high school that can't let 0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:16.880 go of the X. 0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:24.440 I I'm just I'm just ready like to figure out 0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:25.080 what's next. 0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:28.720 Most teams are going younger, Most teams are kind of 0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:31.040 trending in a different direction as far as what the 0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:33.160 running back position even looks like. Because even if you 0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:36.000 look at this draft, there's only like three guys that 0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:38.720 I consider thumpers. And when Zeke came out, that's what 0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:40.880 people were looking for. They were looking for a ground 0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:43.200 and pound and a lot of these guys now are 0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:43.720 a little. 0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:44.880 Bit more shifty. You can do some things in. 0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:47.080 Receiving game, you still need to be able to help 0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:50.960 out in pass pro things like that. But I'm on 0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:52.960 the fence about it because, like, to your point, yeah, 0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:55.960 this running back room is a little scarce right now 0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:58.240 as far as experience goes and things like that. 0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:00.840 But I'm also like, don't. 0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:03.120 Go in the opposite direction because most teams are not 0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:05.840 going in the opposite direction. They're trying to get younger, faster, 0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:09.960 and more elusive from a passing game perspective as well. 0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:11.760 So that's how I feel. 0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:14.680 About it, And it's not it's not an either or thing. 0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:16.840 You know, if Zeke comes back, like you say, it's 0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:19.520 obviously not to be the featured guy. And so I 0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:22.680 think that his coming back depends on who which running 0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:23.360 back they draft. 0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:25.880 I think there's no question that they're going to draft. 0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:29.000 They're going to show an interest in quite a few 0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:31.080 running backs to the combine. 0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:34.080 Access and stuff like that, and so z would be 0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:37.120 a great complimentary back. You know, if if you don't 0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:38.920 get one of the thumpers, if you don't get in 0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:41.920 guy who can run inside and be a short yardage he's. 0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:45.000 Cheap maybe bring them and because again, you don't have 0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:48.240 any Like Deuce was an active a lot, which was annoying, 0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:52.160 but he was an active a lot. We've talked about 0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:57.440 the run game and just schematically what it was either too. 0:30:57.560 --> 0:30:58.920 I mean you also got to think about it for 0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:01.160 a guy like Zeke to come man, unless he's just 0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:03.800 doing goal line things. We don't know what this offensive 0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:05.400 line is going to be like also too. 0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:07.080 Going into next season, so that. 0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:09.920 Also plays a role to me. And what type of 0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:11.680 running back you're looking for. Do you want a guy 0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:13.840 that can see it and just go because maybe that 0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:15.840 hole is not super big with. 0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:18.600 Or it's not open up quick quick enough with this 0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:19.520 offensive line. 0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:22.200 It's there's a lot of factors that play into it, 0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:28.440 but I will concede that it would make sense given. 0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:30.040 That they have not touched free agency. 0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:32.360 Really, I don't really know how many running backs and 0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:33.400 free agency are left. 0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:35.120 Because Cordel Patterson was. 0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:38.480 Someone I was like, y'all, please, he gonna cost like 0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:42.480 five dollars, just bring him in here, see and help 0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:44.840 with your return game, be a veteran whatever the case 0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:45.040 may be. 0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:48.840 But I mean, yeah, he's he's he probably the best 0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:49.960 option right now. I think. 0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:52.000 Possibility. 0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:54.600 I think at this point though, in order for them 0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:58.440 not to be the high school what what did you? 0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:02.160 How did you hype X? They missed that boat. It's 0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:05.480 too late in free agency now to not be that 0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:09.880 anymore because you had options available and you didn't have 0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:15.120 the I mean, it's to get like a splash running back. 0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:19.160 Then, Josh Jacob, if you wanted to be all in. 0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:23.120 And not be the high school ex girlfriend, like the 0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:24.560 big names are gone already. 0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:25.600 Yeah, you heard him. 0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:27.840 You could have had the Giants X, so you could 0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:28.960 have had the Raiders X. 0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:30.280 We started on it. 0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:37.680 Yeah, from from a from a money standpoint, just so 0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:41.160 you know last year Zeke. Of course the Cowboys were 0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:44.440 paying him dead cap space last year too. But when 0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:49.120 he signed as a free agent with the Patriots last year, 0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:51.880 he signed a one year, three million dollar deal. Okay, 0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:55.440 and as for you mentioned, we're you're paying him again 0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:58.440 this year. So he counts a six point four million 0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:02.200 against the Cowboys app so he's and then right behind 0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:04.000 him at six million is Tyron Smith. 0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:06.360 You might as well just put that money to use. Well, 0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:08.320 I mean, look, well you would, you'd have to. 0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:09.560 Pay him on top of that. 0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:12.200 But at least you're paying him to play for you 0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:15.640 and not another team, like it's your stuff to pay 0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:17.440 him on top of that. But I'm just saying, and 0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:21.480 if you're talking about offensive line that it might be 0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:23.240 struggling because we don't know what it looks like. You know, 0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:25.960 Zeke can block. You know he can block, and. 0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:28.640 You don't know if your rookie running back can Yeah, 0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:31.600 if he's playing a lot, Yeah, because Tony Tony stepped 0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:32.040 up a lot. 0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:35.000 Yeah. And as much as people don't want to give 0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:37.840 him credit MG MG was blocking his tail off this 0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:41.120 last season, he's not here anymore. So again, you have 0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:43.320 holes that you need to fill in terms of blocking. 0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:45.920 It stems from the offensive line, but there's more parts 0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:48.120 to it. You know, Zeke can do that too, so 0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:52.280 it I don't love the idea of like going back 0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:55.320 to your past. I agree with you, but at this point, 0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:58.200 like the situation you're in, you kind of have to 0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:00.120 either do that. You can go with the Dell and 0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:04.280 Cook who also has experience, but you need something. You 0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:07.520 can't just sit here and wait for for something to happen. 0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:09.840 It has to something has to happen. They have to 0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:10.560 go out and do something. 0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:11.239 I have a question. 0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:15.520 As of as of today, ric o'doddell is running back 0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:18.960 one as of today, if the season were to start today, 0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:23.359 do y'all have faith that Rico could be that feature back? 0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:25.160 Honestly? 0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:28.040 I mean no, they're they're they're gonna draft a running 0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:29.440 I mean I know that, But I. 0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:32.560 Want to know if we have confidence in Rico o'doddle 0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:34.120 that he could be a future back. 0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:39.080 I as a person and skill set, I like him, 0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:42.320 but he has an injury history, so you have to 0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:46.520 I'm looking at it holistically, and so you it's just 0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:49.960 like almost like a Leyton Vanderesh should be great if 0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:52.680 he decided to come back, but even if he wanted to, 0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:56.480 you couldn't count on him to get through the season. 0:34:56.960 --> 0:34:59.719 So I'm sorry to if that sounds harsh, but you 0:34:59.840 --> 0:35:01.800 think you have to look at the look at the 0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:05.000 whole deal and and and as much as I love 0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:07.840 Rico when I do, but he has some injury history. 0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:10.480 I think he wants it, and I think he's He's 0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:15.040 worked extremely hard to be where he is. He there's 0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:17.160 a lot of players that would have given up after 0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:20.000 year of year and year of injury taking him out 0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:22.160 of the game and there's a reason the Cowboys have 0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:26.359 kept him around this long. When he is healthy, yes, 0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:31.879 I absolutely believe he could be the featured back. Last year, 0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:34.399 he was dealing with the nagging ankle injury, which isn't 0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:37.480 a reoccurring injury. The reoccurring injury that has been happening 0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:40.280 in the past was his hip, so that wasn't bothering 0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:42.239 him last season. I talked to him a lot about 0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:44.560 his health and kind of what he was doing in 0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:47.200 order to stay healthy, and it was they just like 0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:50.160 we talked about Tyrone Smith, how they kind of changed his, uh, 0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:54.560 his practice schedule and and his rehabbing and his and 0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:56.800 all of that same thing. For Rico, they had to 0:35:56.920 --> 0:35:58.840 kind of adjust what he was doing in order to 0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:01.080 stay healthy. And for the most part, I mean that 0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:04.120 nagging hip injury didn't come back last season, so it 0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:06.919 was the ankle injury that you could see got dug 0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:11.440 into Oh goodness what I don't remember what week it was, 0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:13.560 but you could see it happen and that was kind 0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:15.879 of what was happening. He was still playing on it though, 0:36:16.960 --> 0:36:21.879 So again I think when he's healthy, yes, but also 0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:25.000 you haven't seen enough of him. You saw something you 0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:27.120 saw more of him last season than you've seen, but 0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:31.040 that wasn't enough to really know. So training camp is 0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:33.839 gonna be real fun no matter what happens. And he's 0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:35.880 somebody that I really I want to see how he 0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:39.160 does now going forward. 0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:43.759 This is his opportunity now or never. That's that's pretty 0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:44.759 much all I got about that. 0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:48.439 And you know, we should also mentioned Malik Davis because 0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:50.680 he would step up into kind of the Rico role 0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:54.920 if Rico were were first. And then the other thing is, 0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:56.520 I think we're going to see more and more of 0:36:56.640 --> 0:36:59.680 Hunter Lipkey. We we saw we saw the way that 0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:05.080 McCarthy used the kune and the fullbacks you know, always 0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:08.600 in Green Bay. You know, it seemed like he was 0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:11.080 a guy that you could always count on to make 0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:14.200 a play kune, and so you know, you could see 0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:17.279 that for Lipkey moving forward, and he could he could 0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:20.200 be your short yardage guy too, but he's more of 0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:21.760 a traditional fullback. 0:37:21.440 --> 0:37:23.960 Then well I mean, honestly, well I would actually push 0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:25.960 back on that, like Hunter is a running. 0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:28.839 Well running back or the other thing is we didn't 0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:30.440 see him a lot. I think we're gonna see. 0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:32.319 Him more this year. A part of a passing game. 0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:34.600 Absolutely, he can do some things in a passing game. 0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:37.000 He can do some things in short yardage situations. I 0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:39.320 thought that his blocking and the angles he took and 0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:41.160 his vision improved. 0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:44.200 As the year went on. Yeah, I agree. 0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:47.439 I think Hunter Lipkey is gonna definitely take a tick 0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:50.200 up this year in his usage and also too, if 0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:52.560 you look at some of the better teams, having a 0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:56.040 fullback is a valuable thing when you talk about how 0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:59.200 light some of these linebackers defensive line and those guys 0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:01.480 are starting to get. If you have a guy that 0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:03.480 can get to the second level, then that can open 0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:05.320 up some big plays. And I thought that he was 0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:08.160 a good addition to the team last year, just kind 0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:10.400 of getting his feet wet. Definitely expect for him to 0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:12.319 have a tick up this year, and it might tell 0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:15.400 us if they don't, like honestly, if they don't go 0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:18.120 take a Zeke, if they don't go grab anyone else, 0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:20.640 it might tell you that, yeah, they're reserving that role 0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:23.600 for him and they're just gonna go draft another guy. 0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:27.000 I feel like they kind of were doing that until 0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:30.759 the fumble, I believe in Week sixteen, which after you 0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:32.839 look back at it, it wasn't just on him. 0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:36.160 It was also the handoff for communication issues there. 0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:37.920 And so I think at that point they kind of 0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:39.680 took a step back and they scaled back, but they 0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:42.600 were giving him more and more leeway up until that point. 0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:44.799 They were using him at the goal line a lot 0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:47.040 more so. 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And then they also make the parents also 0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:44.640 make friends and make connections when they're here as well. 0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:45.920 So yeah, it's a good time. 0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:49.320 I don't have kids a long time before that happens, 0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:50.680 so amen. 0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:52.640 I have dogs in a camp, so amen. 0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:54.399 Yeah, I don't neither. 0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:57.239 My husband says we're gonna we'll get a dog. If 0:41:57.280 --> 0:41:59.560 I can remember to feed it, then we'll consider having child. 0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:02.840 You can you can take I have. I have plenty 0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:04.960 of two dogs and a cat, so you can take 0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:07.200 one of them with you and have them for the 0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:09.000 day or whatever if you ever feel. 0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:09.279 Like you need that. 0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:09.759 Thank you. 0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:10.840 I'm kidding. 0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:13.120 I actually do have a dog, Abby Bear, named after 0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:17.120 Dallas Cowboys cheerleader, the little stuffed my Abbey Bear. Yeah, 0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:19.480 it's a stuffed animal and it's kind of the m 0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:21.960 v P that you get so the d c C 0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:23.800 each week a different person. 0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:27.480 It's the Above and Beyond a B B E Y. 0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:29.799 So those of you that have seen or have one 0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:32.880 of those d c C Abby Teddy Bears that you 0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:36.040 get from the pro Shop, it's for the Above and 0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:37.520 Beyond award the Abby Bear. 0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:39.560 I got a dog. 0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:40.280 She's a monster. 0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:45.200 Your dog's a monster, Jazz, Yes, yes, a monster. 0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:47.640 I don't believe that she's six months years old. She's 0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:48.040 a monster. 0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:51.320 High energy, puppy, puppy energy. 0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:56.040 And what's her name? 0:42:57.800 --> 0:43:01.680 All right? 0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:05.200 Real quick, ladies, we knew they're coming into a free 0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:08.239 agency obviously that you know, the Cowboys would have had 0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:12.480 the choice between Jordan Lewis and Stefan Gilmore picking one 0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:15.480 of those guys to stay here with Dallas. Of course 0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:19.920 they resigned Jordan, but now still no word on Stefan 0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:22.320 Gilmour and whether or not he'll be returning. But I 0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:26.759 know Stephen Jones did somewhat address that room a little bit. 0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:28.280 He didn't say. 0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:32.000 Whether or not they will be bringing him back or not. 0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:36.279 What is y'all's thoughts on whether or not what you'll 0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:39.279 be missing from what Gilly Gilly brought to. 0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:44.640 That room leadership and veteran experience. He was. He was 0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:49.280 the reason that your secondary stood a chance after Trayvon 0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:52.080 Diggs went out so early in the season. U And 0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:54.960 that's no shade to anybody in that room. Jlu admitted 0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:57.520 how long it took for him to reacclimate after his 0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:01.600 foot injury and just kind of no pun intended seriously 0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:04.839 get his footing back in because it's hard to do when, 0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:07.759 especially with a foot injury, your muscle memory comes back in. 0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:09.880 It was hard for him, and he talked a lot 0:44:09.920 --> 0:44:14.200 about that. But somebody likes Steffan Gilmour can come in 0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:17.200 be a plug and play player and an impact maker. 0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:19.319 So you have your plug and play players that are 0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:20.960 going to come in, You're going to play, but you 0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:24.040 have an impact maker and a difference maker. To have 0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:26.680 both of those in one player is special and Stefan 0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:29.920 Gilmore is that player. So I think that's what he 0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:34.960 brought more than anything. But yeah, Stevens comments didn't make 0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:39.360 me optimistic. So we'll see what happens. But I'm not 0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:42.000 very optimistic that you'll see him wearing a star again. 0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:45.279 Yeah, I mean from a depth standpoint. I mean we've 0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:47.120 talked about it even on the Draft show. Is that 0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:50.000 you know, corner might be something that they need to 0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:53.560 look at because you know, I think you. 0:44:53.600 --> 0:44:54.600 Still Havenron Bland. 0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:58.480 Obviously, Trayvon Diggs is locked up, but behind that, most 0:44:58.520 --> 0:45:01.080 of those guys are like one two years away from 0:45:01.160 --> 0:45:03.480 not being on this team anymore. And then when you 0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:05.719 look at even the guy like Eric Scott that they 0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:09.239 drafted late last year. Unfortunately he was a guy that 0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:11.200 Dan Quinn drafted. And when you have a new coach 0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:13.920 come in a lot of the time, they have different 0:45:14.000 --> 0:45:16.640 visions they want to have their guys. So it also 0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:19.080 puts some of these young guys that are down the 0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:22.080 roster at the position in a place to where they're 0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:24.400 going to have to show what they're made of and 0:45:24.680 --> 0:45:27.840 see if they appeal to the new coach and. 0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:28.880 What he's able to do. 0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:31.160 Now, I will say, with Trayvon Diggs coming back from 0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:34.279 an ACL, I don't have the expectation that he's going 0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:38.480 to just automatically, very quickly be that Trayvon that we expect. 0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:40.600 I know, he did get injured early in the season, 0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:42.560 so he may be a little bit more ahead. But 0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:47.239 I just the Stefan Gilmour thing was also insurance in 0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:49.600 a way that I think is a luxury in the 0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:53.160 NFL to have him, someone like him, to his caliber 0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:57.960 as insurance, so toughest nails to play with the rotator 0:45:58.000 --> 0:45:59.879 cuff injury through a playoff game. 0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:01.319 Yep. 0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:05.399 A little crazy honestly too. I mean, but it's sad 0:46:05.440 --> 0:46:06.920 to see him go because I mean just some of 0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:09.359 the conversations I got to have with him. He's such 0:46:09.360 --> 0:46:13.040 a teacher and he'll teach you without even realizing it 0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:15.719 just in conversation. So to your point, Jess, I think 0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:17.480 that this locker room's going to miss him. I think 0:46:17.480 --> 0:46:20.200 this young locker room, a lot of those young guys 0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:22.520 in the secondary are going to miss him because Trayvon 0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:25.359 even mentioned that he's been mentoring him since he came 0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:28.280 into the league, so they're connected at the hip anyway. 0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:31.680 So yeah, it is what it is. You're gonna have 0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:33.040 to figure it out at this point. 0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:35.759 So it's also so disappointing knowing you didn't get to 0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:38.080 see a lot of Trey and Gilly on the field 0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:41.560 together because it was just so exciting the thought of 0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:46.120 seeing both of them in the backfield, just man two ballhawks. 0:46:46.160 --> 0:46:49.919 But yeah, youth has to step up at some point, 0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:51.879 take what he taught them and go from there. 0:46:52.800 --> 0:46:55.320 He was ten point nine to eight million Gilmour against 0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:58.439 the cap last year and they just they they can't 0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:00.960 afford that the way that they're managing the cap now 0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:03.200 and the way they're trying to apply their resources and 0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:05.600 set up the cap not just for this year but 0:47:05.760 --> 0:47:09.160 future years. So it's unfortunate and all the but but 0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:11.040 you miss him on the field too, and not just 0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:13.759 all the pro stuff, because there were a couple of 0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:17.279 games at the end of last year where they they 0:47:17.400 --> 0:47:19.840 had their top the Cowboys had their top cornerback travel 0:47:20.040 --> 0:47:22.520 basically go man to man with the top receiver for 0:47:22.600 --> 0:47:24.759 the other team instead of just playing all that bad 0:47:24.840 --> 0:47:30.680 game Metcalf and so when they traveled the player towards 0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:32.480 the end of last year, it was not Drawn Bland. 0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:33.640 It was Gilmore. 0:47:33.760 --> 0:47:35.680 I mean, just the way he stepped up in that 0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:39.040 that Seahawks game, see that fire and him. 0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:43.840 That was again, just to remind everyone, Metcalf kind of 0:47:43.920 --> 0:47:48.520 trash talked Gilly early in that game, and Gilly like, yeah. 0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:51.719 Called him old, called him old, and then who's old? 0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:52.680 Nelly shut him down. 0:47:52.880 --> 0:47:54.920 Gilly, And you're getting a guy like like all of 0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:58.560 y'all said, but you're getting a guy whose durability is 0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:00.920 off this roof. I know he got injured before the 0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:04.080 playoff game and still play through it, But I mean 0:48:04.200 --> 0:48:04.760 for a guy. 0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:06.400 His age, what is he like thirty? 0:48:08.800 --> 0:48:09.520 I think it's thirty three. 0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:11.560 Yeah, I mean you're getting a durable guy. 0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:14.439 And the tackling girl. Because that's one thing about Gilly. 0:48:14.520 --> 0:48:17.320 When they first signed him, I looked back at his 0:48:17.480 --> 0:48:19.440 film the year before and yeah. 0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:21.720 I'm impressed with the coverage, but I'm also just impressed 0:48:21.719 --> 0:48:24.240 if he's not a huge guy. We've seen him in person. 0:48:24.520 --> 0:48:27.600 He's not a huge guy, but his willingness to tackle 0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:30.960 it also sex the example for those young guys that 0:48:31.120 --> 0:48:32.840 hey man, you can be great in coverage if you 0:48:32.920 --> 0:48:35.200 want to, but if you're not gonna tackle nobody coming 0:48:35.239 --> 0:48:37.440 off this edge, then what are we talking about here? 0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:41.080 He really shut He's such a total cornerback and you 0:48:41.239 --> 0:48:43.240 just don't get to see that in this league that often. 0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:46.120 So I gonna miss him, but we understand what's going on. 0:48:46.239 --> 0:48:48.040 He takes care of his body too. To your point, 0:48:48.440 --> 0:48:51.840 because I remember during training camp, Trey was talking about 0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:55.120 how he was eating like I think a bag of 0:48:55.280 --> 0:48:57.560 candy or something, and Gilly was like, what are you 0:48:57.640 --> 0:49:00.480 eating that for? And Trey was like okay, Like he 0:49:00.719 --> 0:49:03.160 kind of was showing the guys how to take care 0:49:03.160 --> 0:49:04.640 of their body. So we'll see. 0:49:05.000 --> 0:49:08.640 Definitely a guy will hopefully hopefully comes back, but if not, 0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:09.400 we understand. 0:49:09.520 --> 0:49:11.920 Like Aisha said, that's a rap. 0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:13.640 For today's episode of Girls Talk. 0:49:13.600 --> 0:49:16.480 Boys Talk, presented by Jig Saw, the preferred dating partner 0:49:16.480 --> 0:49:18.319 of the Dallas Cowboys, we'll see y'all next week. 0:49:18.520 --> 0:49:18.640 Hi. 0:49:20.600 --> 0:49:23.560 This has been a production of dallascowboys dot Com and 0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:25.560 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.