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Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys. Right here in the SWBC studio, I'm Nicauaderson,
Speaker 3: Isis Morrison, Jess Navares and Christie Scales, Ladies, I miss y'all.
Speaker 4: How y'all doing?
Speaker 2: I guess it has been a little it's been like
Speaker 2: a week.
Speaker 5: It's been more than a week, technically a day. It's
Speaker 5: been a week and a day in a long time.
Speaker 4: Too bad, nothing's happened, huh.
Speaker 5: I know, right, you know, we what to talk about,
Speaker 5: and I so glad christ you can laugh about it.
Speaker 6: I think that I'm always amused when people say, what
Speaker 6: do you guys do in the off season?
Speaker 4: It's like there is no true off season.
Speaker 6: In the NFL, and not with the team, most certainly
Speaker 6: not with this team, and certainly not with the week
Speaker 6: of the owners meetings, you.
Speaker 4: Know, with the rules changes.
Speaker 6: And then of course at the owners meetings you've got
Speaker 6: the Joneses and the head coaches for the Cowboys, you
Speaker 6: know that, you know, make their statements and then everyone
Speaker 6: takes off with that.
Speaker 4: So there's a lot going on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, quite a few new rule changes ahead of the
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four season. Let's start with the kickoff rule change,
Speaker 3: though first they've moved it to where now, of course
Speaker 3: kickers will still kick off the from the thirty five
Speaker 3: yard line. The other ten players from the kicking team
Speaker 3: would line up at the opposing forty, and then the
Speaker 3: way that the receiving team will be lined up is
Speaker 3: at least nine will line up on in a five
Speaker 3: yard area between the thirty and the thirty five yard line,
Speaker 3: and the kicker cannot cross the fifty, and the rest
Speaker 3: of the kicking team along with those and set up
Speaker 3: in that zone can't move until the ball hits the
Speaker 3: ground fielded or lands in the end zones.
Speaker 2: A lot of different movie parts, but the.
Speaker 3: Same as the XFL does, I think they took the
Speaker 3: data as far as that just making sure there's not
Speaker 3: that many full speed collisions to kind of prevent injuries.
Speaker 4: What do y'all think about that?
Speaker 3: And how do y'all think this kind of helps the Cowboys.
Speaker 6: I'm excited about it because it brings back one of
Speaker 6: the truly exciting plays in the NFL. And so I
Speaker 6: just remember every time you'd have, for example, a Devin
Speaker 6: Hester to drop back, you know, Patterson now just signed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, that's it.
Speaker 6: It's going to be dynamic, I think, And I think
Speaker 6: it's also going to change strategy as well. You know,
Speaker 6: you're not just I think it's going to change the
Speaker 6: way people watch games. You're gonna have to get back
Speaker 6: from your bathroom break or your concession break, or your
Speaker 6: trip to the fridge after a score to get back
Speaker 6: because you're going to want to see the kickoff because
Speaker 6: it's not going to be an automatic touch back as
Speaker 6: it's basically been for a couple of years. And we
Speaker 6: know Brandon Aubrey set a record last year with ninety
Speaker 6: nine touchbacks, you know, and I also we can yeah,
Speaker 6: but the same wanna and so no, I'm excited about it.
Speaker 6: I just wondered if you guys think it's a positive change.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean, look here, here's the thing about
Speaker 5: the rule change is it gives opportunity for the special
Speaker 5: teams guys to really show their importance in this game.
Speaker 5: Because I think when you're just getting touched back after
Speaker 5: touch back after touchback, you truly don't appreciate how much
Speaker 5: special teams is doing for the game and how much
Speaker 5: it does impact the game. So I think giving those
Speaker 5: guys a Cavante Turpin, if he doesn't take more of
Speaker 5: a role on offense, we don't know. Yeah, just assuming
Speaker 5: it's still him, more of an opportunity to really take
Speaker 5: the ball further. And Christy, I think it was you
Speaker 5: that told me that what was the.
Speaker 2: Percentage twenty one percent?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that were actually not touchbacks last season, right right, Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's that needed a change.
Speaker 6: And then the other thing was in the Super Bowl
Speaker 6: there were what thirteen kickoffs and then we're returned, And
Speaker 6: so a lot of observers thought, Okay, that's the signal
Speaker 6: for the change. If anything is going to change with
Speaker 6: the kickoff, it's going to be this because you had
Speaker 6: this high score, you know, Super Bowl, and kickoffs were
Speaker 6: litter kickoff returns were a non factor.
Speaker 5: I also think shout out to Bones Fossil for we
Speaker 5: were heading this change, because that should show you how
Speaker 5: much of a gem he really is on this coaching staff.
Speaker 5: He's so smart, he's innovative, he's always thinking ahead, and
Speaker 5: I just think he doesn't get enough love and appreciation
Speaker 5: from the outside for everything that he not only contributes
Speaker 5: for the Cowboys, but really across the NFL as well.
Speaker 6: And this thing going with the XFL, this is something
Speaker 6: that this is not something that just came up within
Speaker 6: the off season. I remember us having a long time
Speaker 6: talk about it at training camp out in Oxnard. And
Speaker 6: what happens is during training camp there'll be two, maybe
Speaker 6: three times where the coordinators are made available to the
Speaker 6: media and they'll put them on the podium.
Speaker 4: It'll be there on the tennis court.
Speaker 6: So it's it's a similar setting to what Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 6: the Cowboys head coach, does with his daily press conferences.
Speaker 4: But had been talking with Coach Fossil about.
Speaker 6: This and it was like the day before his scheduled
Speaker 6: press conference, and so we see each other the next
Speaker 6: day is getting ready to go. He's like, hey, you know,
Speaker 6: I think I really want to talk about this, you know,
Speaker 6: stuff with how the XFL does. It's like, okay, I'll
Speaker 6: ask you about it so that you can kind of
Speaker 6: be on record about it.
Speaker 4: So this isn't something that is just on a whim.
Speaker 6: It's something that has been studied and put a lot
Speaker 6: of a thought into it.
Speaker 4: Aisha, what were you thinking.
Speaker 2: I'm excited, like just like you, I think just mentioned it.
Speaker 7: Special teams is an element of the game that doesn't get.
Speaker 2: Enough attention, I feel like and also too.
Speaker 7: I mean, if you look at a lot of the
Speaker 7: playoffs games this past year, special teams was the difference
Speaker 7: even in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: So special teams be a difference maker.
Speaker 7: Start and field position plays a huge role in time
Speaker 7: and possession, and I think a team like the Cowboys
Speaker 7: who started at their own twenty or negative to that
Speaker 7: sometimes a lot this year may be able to benefit
Speaker 7: from getting some better starting field position and being able
Speaker 7: to flip the field and things like that.
Speaker 2: So that's exciting.
Speaker 7: Furthermore, when you mentioned that Bones was a part of
Speaker 7: this coming into play, don't think he wasn't a part
Speaker 7: of it.
Speaker 2: For a reason.
Speaker 7: I'm very curious to see what he has up his sleeve.
Speaker 7: You know, he's a sneaky dog in some of the
Speaker 7: ways that he's able to implement some trick plays and
Speaker 7: things he can take advantage of. So I am also
Speaker 7: curious to see what he does with it the rule
Speaker 7: changes and how he kind of sifts through those and
Speaker 7: is able to navigate those to get some positive yardists
Speaker 7: for the Cowboys and be able to have this offense
Speaker 7: starting off at a better point in the field.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's really going to change I think how
Speaker 6: you build the team as well. I think it's going
Speaker 6: to affect a couple of the bottom of the roster
Speaker 6: kind of the fifty one through fifty three composition, because
Speaker 6: you're not just going to have one person back to
Speaker 6: field the ball.
Speaker 4: You're going to have two.
Speaker 6: Like for example, this past year, it would have been Cavante,
Speaker 6: Turpin and probably Recodoubtle, each one taking a half. You know,
Speaker 6: they're setting up at the goal line or the five
Speaker 6: yard line to return it a Deuce Bond, except that
Speaker 6: Deuce was inactive most games last year. But if he,
Speaker 6: you know, is going to have a role in this. Again,
Speaker 6: I'm kind of taking last year and projecting, but I'm
Speaker 6: just saying it can affect things like that. The other
Speaker 6: thing is Nicole, how you mentioned the kickers back at
Speaker 6: the thirty yard line, and of course you're ten teammates
Speaker 6: that would be covering. They would be running thirty yards
Speaker 6: downfield to get to the spot where everyone is going
Speaker 6: to be starting. Now that this okay, so the kicker
Speaker 6: has to stay back there. But those ten guys, they're
Speaker 6: already on the other side of the field and they're
Speaker 6: five yards away from the guys who are going to
Speaker 6: block them. So you could go with some bigger coverage guys.
Speaker 6: You don't have to have these guys who are fast
Speaker 6: and can kind of get around guys.
Speaker 3: What would you do personnel wise because of you know,
Speaker 3: the close quarters that they have to work with.
Speaker 6: Now, well, someone like Sam Williams, Now we know that
Speaker 6: he could he can do it because he's fast, and
Speaker 6: I mean, you have him at gunner on punts for
Speaker 6: goodness sake, But that kind of body type would be
Speaker 6: more useful. I think Sam athletically is a freak the
Speaker 6: way that he can run down and do that. Most
Speaker 6: guys of that size can't run like that. But it's
Speaker 6: really more of a scrimmage play and that was part
Speaker 6: of the deal. This is more of a scrimmage play
Speaker 6: in terms of you're five yards away from your opponent,
Speaker 6: kind of like a linebacker from an offensive lineman, and
Speaker 6: so I think it can change. You're still going to
Speaker 6: have your tied in your linebackers, but do you have
Speaker 6: you know, are you are you going to have like
Speaker 6: a Jalen Tolbert who plays gunner, but would he be
Speaker 6: a guy that you would use in coverage when there's
Speaker 6: only five yards apart. I think that the implications for
Speaker 6: this are far more than making it an exciting play
Speaker 6: and now we'll have seven, eight, nine, maybe ten returns
Speaker 6: in a game. I think the implication reaches further in
Speaker 6: terms of how you compose your roster.
Speaker 3: One of the cons that I wrote down was it
Speaker 3: would take away from onside kick opportunities when you're in
Speaker 3: those close games.
Speaker 4: But they figured for that.
Speaker 6: So if you want an on side kick, now you
Speaker 6: have to declare it and you do it from back
Speaker 6: at your own thirty Okay, So there aren't going to
Speaker 6: be surprise on side kicks anymore, and so I think
Speaker 6: that's a positive because the dangerous plays certainly kickoff returns
Speaker 6: or you know, cause the long the way it previously
Speaker 6: was where you're running downfield, but when you're doing an
Speaker 6: on side kick, there's some guys jobs where it is
Speaker 6: to take out the person in front of them so
Speaker 6: that it can open it up for the guy coming
Speaker 6: in behind to take the ball, and so those are
Speaker 6: very they can be dangerous plays.
Speaker 4: And so.
Speaker 6: You know, you're still going to have the same kind
Speaker 6: of format for it and alignment and everything stays the
Speaker 6: same with that, except that it can't be a surprise
Speaker 6: anymore and teams.
Speaker 4: Can be more prepared for it.
Speaker 6: The other thing is it won't succeed as much because
Speaker 6: it won't be a surprise and everyone will have their
Speaker 6: hands teams out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it seems like the league is doing everything
Speaker 3: that they need to do to take precautions as far
Speaker 3: as injuries.
Speaker 4: They also took.
Speaker 3: Away the hip drop tackle will be a penalty.
Speaker 5: Now some thoughts on good, good, good, bout dang time,
Speaker 5: that's my thought on it. Yeah, I mean, how many
Speaker 5: times did we have to see this happen and nearly
Speaker 5: either injure a player. And I'm not even talking just
Speaker 5: the Cowboys. I'm talking throughout the course of even last
Speaker 5: season when you look back and think about it nearly
Speaker 5: injure somebody or actually injure somebody. How many times did
Speaker 5: that have to happen until it was declared that hey,
Speaker 5: that's dangerous and that shouldn't be happening. And I understand
Speaker 5: the momentum part of this game where sometimes it just happens,
Speaker 5: but no, look, I'm all about player safety. I think
Speaker 5: it's about time it needed to happen. It was dangerous,
Speaker 5: and when you're talking about getting pulled from behind where
Speaker 5: you can't see the momentum shift, I mean you're talking knees, ankles,
Speaker 5: hip injuries that just are unnecessary and preventable. So I'm
Speaker 5: glad that that's finally a rule.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I feel like a lot of players don't like it,
Speaker 7: of course, and I understand them feeling like, you know, dang,
Speaker 7: this is another rule especially too. I think another rule
Speaker 7: change that's important is the rough and the passer and
Speaker 7: stuff being able to be reviewed, because I do think
Speaker 7: the defensive players are starting to be.
Speaker 2: Like, I don't know how we played defense.
Speaker 7: You can't hit nobody, you can't tackle on anyone, or
Speaker 7: anything like that. I definitely have talked to multiple players
Speaker 7: about it. Gotten some mixed bags. A mixed bag as
Speaker 7: far as the information. But me, when I look at
Speaker 7: the tackle you mentioned that you know a lot of
Speaker 7: it's from behind. Yeah, because guys don't want to get
Speaker 7: beat and when your body goes into like fight or
Speaker 7: flight panic, they're just trying to get them down to
Speaker 7: the ground. And it's interesting because I'm very petite and
Speaker 7: in the military when we did combatives, literally how they
Speaker 7: tackle is something I was taught because I'm so small,
Speaker 7: and basically you're just throwing your weight. I mean, you're
Speaker 7: just grabbing them and pulling them down. And what you're
Speaker 7: guaranteeing is that that person's unstable on the other side,
Speaker 7: and that's why you're seeing the brakes. That's why you're
Speaker 7: seeing things like that go on. So I again, like
Speaker 7: I am for player safety, I understand the player. Defensive
Speaker 7: players are kind of over it at the same time.
Speaker 7: So it's it's gonna be interesting how it's handled. But
Speaker 7: I will say the influx of that tackle, like and
Speaker 7: I'm trying to figure out if this is something that's
Speaker 7: been happening and it wasn't injuring people, so we weren't
Speaker 7: as hyper focused on it, or we've just seen this
Speaker 7: last couple of years up ticking.
Speaker 6: Mark Andrews for the Baltimore Ring. I think it's a
Speaker 6: big example from this past season, and of course Tony
Speaker 6: Pollard it's a technique.
Speaker 7: Thing as well, like don't get it twisted, I think.
Speaker 7: I mean, we've only been in the locker room for
Speaker 7: two years at this point, but some of this stuff
Speaker 7: is just get them down to the ground, like I mean, unfortunately,
Speaker 7: and I'm just I'm really curious to see if this
Speaker 7: is if this is gonna help. The situation does put
Speaker 7: pressure on players, it does make them have to be
Speaker 7: a little bit more technically signed with things. But I'm
Speaker 7: kind of sick of seeing leg breaks and stuff too.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I ain't even gonna hold you. And I
Speaker 7: don't know if we've seen this type of like and
Speaker 7: it's it's the way because even so people have not
Speaker 7: gotten injured, like Patrick Mahomes got tackled with a hip
Speaker 7: drop tackle in the Super Bowl and last year and
Speaker 7: he had to he played through that ankle being sprung sprung,
Speaker 7: but like he he could have injured himself as well.
Speaker 2: He could have been out of that game.
Speaker 4: Then the rule would have changed last year.
Speaker 7: Right, and that's and I think that it probably knowing
Speaker 7: them have probably played a role. Like but I'm just saying, yeah,
Speaker 7: I mean this is I think about even when Aaron
Speaker 7: Rodgers got hit in the in the collarbone and it
Speaker 7: was that's when the rough.
Speaker 2: In the passer things.
Speaker 7: They they they're going to protect these offensive players and
Speaker 7: Tom Brady al and things like that. So yeah, for sure,
Speaker 7: I just I'm I'm very up and down about it
Speaker 7: because I get it from a logical standpoint.
Speaker 2: I hear the players.
Speaker 7: Though, but then I'm like, I, no one will see
Speaker 7: nobody's ankle being backwards.
Speaker 2: Again, y'all.
Speaker 5: I'm that's the kind of play though, that could be
Speaker 5: a difference maker. Now with them knowing it's officially a role,
Speaker 5: you're going to get penalized for it. It's going to
Speaker 5: be interesting to see the discipline, especially in the teams
Speaker 5: that you know are more notorious for doing it.
Speaker 2: The Lions.
Speaker 5: Oh uh, look, am I wrong? Am I wrong? So
Speaker 5: all I'm saying is, look, let's keep an eye on
Speaker 5: the penalties and how that's going to impact players or
Speaker 5: teams that don't want to be disciplined in making sure
Speaker 5: that they're not doing that and I'm interested to see
Speaker 5: the scapegoats that they try to find to still kind
Speaker 5: of tackle from behind without making it look like it's
Speaker 5: a hip drop.
Speaker 4: Toll, would you say?
Speaker 6: Discipline and penalties part of it, The bigger part of
Speaker 6: it for the players, and why it's going to change
Speaker 6: moving forward, is because of fines.
Speaker 4: So it's just like you can be fined for.
Speaker 6: These dangerous plays like the helmet to helmet for the
Speaker 6: roughing the passer, and that's what gets the player's attentions.
Speaker 6: The only thing they like worse than a player's attention
Speaker 6: is the only thing they hate worse than being penalized
Speaker 6: is getting that note, that FedEx letter and their locker
Speaker 6: and the money's automatically taken away. You can appeal it,
Speaker 6: but basically later on down the line, it's going to
Speaker 6: be deducted from your paycheck. That's why it's going to change, and.
Speaker 4: The players will adapt.
Speaker 6: They adapted with the horse caller, which is the Roy
Speaker 6: Williams rule. The longtime cowboy fans know that's unofficially.
Speaker 4: The Roy Williams rule. We do you see horse callers sometimes?
Speaker 7: Still?
Speaker 6: Sure, unfortunately, but not like you did before. Do you
Speaker 6: still see helmet to helmet shots unfortunately, yes, but nothing
Speaker 6: like you saw before. It became not only a penalty
Speaker 6: but a finable one. And so that's why this hip
Speaker 6: drop rule is really going to have effect. Is not
Speaker 6: only is it going to be fifteen yards with a
Speaker 6: yellow flag, it's a potential and probable fine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So what does this do for these position coaches?
Speaker 3: Because I should talk about it just being more discipline, technical,
Speaker 3: technically sound. So what more does that do for these
Speaker 3: position coaches that have to teach?
Speaker 7: You know this, Well, I'm curious about it because a
Speaker 7: lot of the time, like Jess was mentioning, it's from behind,
Speaker 7: so guys don't want to get beat.
Speaker 2: Nobody want to be highlight real baby. But I also.
Speaker 7: Think it's I'm curious to find out how they're going
Speaker 7: to tackle, because if they tackle properly, you're pushing someone forward,
Speaker 7: mostly positive, and that's why a lot of them are
Speaker 7: tackling in the way that they're tackling, because they're pulling
Speaker 7: them back basically.
Speaker 2: So I obviously we don't know yet.
Speaker 7: Hopefully, you know, maybe when we get a player on
Speaker 7: we can ask, hey, what how is this going to change?
Speaker 7: What techniques are they gonna teach these guys because you can't.
Speaker 2: Tackle like you're taught to tackle.
Speaker 7: You can't form tackle because if you form tackle, baby,
Speaker 7: you're gonna push people forward. So it's like, I wonder,
Speaker 7: I don't I don't know how it's gonna work. Maybe
Speaker 7: it's trying to push them to the outside. Maybe it's
Speaker 7: coming from the side, but then you would have to
Speaker 7: be able to be as fast.
Speaker 6: As they If you push them forward, they're gonna get
Speaker 6: several more young, but they gonna get fifteen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, it's going to be fifteen if it's a penalty.
Speaker 5: Do you feel like it might be tripping?
Speaker 4: They might start tripping?
Speaker 2: Yeh yeah.
Speaker 3: What about guys for for example, like a d'mon who
Speaker 3: was smaller than a lot of the guys he had
Speaker 3: to take on.
Speaker 4: What do you do about that as well?
Speaker 3: That's no shade to the moon.
Speaker 2: That was not shade. It's not meant to be. But
Speaker 2: what you do you know, I mean, yeah, I don't, like,
Speaker 2: we don't know yet. Yeah, I don't know what it's
Speaker 2: gonna look like yet.
Speaker 5: Probably tripping, like like you were mentioning, kind of going
Speaker 5: for the fee area and kind of making them stumble.
Speaker 5: But even then I mean, if you're if you're doing
Speaker 5: what you're paid to do, you're gonna get past that too.
Speaker 5: As far as a wide receiver goes, you're gonna get
Speaker 5: out of that and learn how to regain your footing.
Speaker 5: But it does, so it's gonna be interesting to see.
Speaker 5: So I hope it doesn't go from hips to knees.
Speaker 5: That's my biggest thing is I don't want to start
Speaker 5: seeing tackles hit the knees because that's pretty much just I.
Speaker 7: Think that's I think that's might be the only choice
Speaker 7: because again, like they can't go up here because the
Speaker 7: horse collars, they can't pull them from behind in that way.
Speaker 7: They can't tackle them like we were talking about. They
Speaker 7: can't like wrap them up and then pull them back
Speaker 7: or swivel or swing.
Speaker 5: Does it almost change the defensive formations that they're gonna
Speaker 5: have to work with to ensure that more people I
Speaker 5: guess are in front of the receiver as opposed to
Speaker 5: kind of tackling from behind.
Speaker 6: Now that's dangerous, that's too much room for them.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just saying, no, you're right, but that
Speaker 2: we can't.
Speaker 7: You can't reinvent the wheel, baby, like football can't become.
Speaker 7: And that's where I I that's where I get where
Speaker 7: the players are, especially the defensive players are like, holy crap, bro,
Speaker 7: Like we literally were just trying to figure out we're
Speaker 7: learning how we're now learning how to tackle qbs. Now
Speaker 7: we don't know what's the sure way to tackle QB
Speaker 7: and now you're telling me I can't. And then you
Speaker 7: also got to think, so, you guys are running backs
Speaker 7: in this league.
Speaker 2: This baby, they've running through arm tackling. They don't care
Speaker 2: about none of that. So it's it's it is. It's
Speaker 2: a disadvantage to the defense.
Speaker 7: It is it's just fantasies the defense, and I understand
Speaker 7: their frustration. I don't know. I don't know it's gonna be.
Speaker 7: It's gonna be in football.
Speaker 6: It's also one more thing for the officiating crew that
Speaker 6: they have to.
Speaker 4: Look at to so and will it be.
Speaker 2: I don't know what.
Speaker 6: I don't know if it would be automatically reviewable.
Speaker 4: It hasn't been addressed yet as.
Speaker 6: To whether that would be uh possibly review from up
Speaker 6: top or or not. So I hope that's a question
Speaker 6: have to to follow up on find out it's gonna slow.
Speaker 2: Down the game.
Speaker 7: Sotimes I say out over, just take a little bit.
Speaker 2: I hope not.
Speaker 3: Is there another rule that was changed, Chrissy that kind
Speaker 3: of stood out to you?
Speaker 6: Oh, I just think having a third challenge for a
Speaker 6: coach if you if you get in the past, each
Speaker 6: team a coach has two challenges. If the first two
Speaker 6: are successful, then you get a third. Now only one
Speaker 6: of them has to one of the first two has
Speaker 6: to be successful, and you're allowed a third. So I
Speaker 6: think that that could could definitely gain to play.
Speaker 2: We could have used that.
Speaker 7: I don't know what game it was that the Cowboys
Speaker 7: played towards the end of the year, and he was like,
Speaker 7: I felt like if Mike McCarthy would have challenged, you
Speaker 7: would have won.
Speaker 2: It was a spot they had. I don't know what
Speaker 2: game it was, but they had a bad spot.
Speaker 5: Towards the end.
Speaker 4: I don't know it was.
Speaker 7: It was a it was a later game in the
Speaker 7: in the season, and it was they got a bad
Speaker 7: spot and we were in the spots was bad all
Speaker 7: day and then but one of the spots was a
Speaker 7: pivotal point in the game and it was like.
Speaker 2: Dang you, I don't know which game it was, but anyway, it's.
Speaker 6: Another one just real quickly, because I know we got
Speaker 6: to go to break. But now you know how sometimes
Speaker 6: you're watching and you see the play clock clicking down right,
Speaker 6: and it's like, did they get the snap off? And
Speaker 6: now that is actually reviewable, so that could play, yes,
Speaker 6: that they could play a factor in a in a
Speaker 6: game at some point this season. The back judge, there
Speaker 6: are seven officials on the field. The back judge is
Speaker 6: the one that's like literally thirty yards downfield behind the defense,
Speaker 6: behind the safeties, and so he's surveying the whole field
Speaker 6: in front of him. All twenty two players and six
Speaker 6: other officials are in front of him, and so he's
Speaker 6: looking at the play clock and so when he sees
Speaker 6: it go down to zero, he glances back to see
Speaker 6: if the ball has been snapped. And sometimes there's literally
Speaker 6: as much time in between, you know, the clock going
Speaker 6: down in the ball being snapped. Now, can it can
Speaker 6: be reviewed in case the back judge didn't quite get
Speaker 6: it right?
Speaker 5: Real quick? Sorry, I was curious about Mike's challenge record
Speaker 5: since he's been in Dallas. His total challenge record throughout
Speaker 5: his coaching career, he's fifty one out of one oh three.
Speaker 5: Since he's been in Dallas, he has challenged seven, eight, nine, ten,
Speaker 5: ten challenges and he's won one, two, three, four.
Speaker 6: Oh, so forty percent. In four seasons. He's only challenged
Speaker 6: ten times.
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, and there's been times where.
Speaker 6: Yep, and it looks like ouch more because now you've
Speaker 6: got me. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Anyway, I mean it's interesting his like, the most challenges
Speaker 5: he had was in twenty twenty one, where he had
Speaker 5: five and he only got two out of the five
Speaker 5: that year. But last year he only had one challenge
Speaker 5: and he was one for one, so technically one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: We love that.
Speaker 3: Alright, we're gonna take our first break of next we're
Speaker 3: talking running bags. Could we see your reunion here?
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 5: All right, we'll take our first back.
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Speaker 6: The expiration the change in reviewing the end is game
Speaker 6: clock and not play clock, So that has nothing to
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Speaker 4: So thank you Chris for that correction on that. Thank you,
Speaker 4: thank you, thank you all right.
Speaker 3: Reports from Michael Gelkin from Dallas Morning News actually earlier,
Speaker 3: I think that was Tuesday. He said that there could
Speaker 3: be a reunion between Ezekiel Elliott and the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3: He asked in the owner's meeting this week. Of course,
Speaker 3: Jerry and Steven they did not confirm or deny that report.
Speaker 3: What are y'all's thoughts? Do y'all think that there could be?
Speaker 3: Would you all like to see a reunion?
Speaker 4: I know Jess is over there.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be shocked. That's where I'm at with it.
Speaker 5: Is look, just do something, Just do something. We can't
Speaker 5: just look. The Cowboys can't continue to just sit here
Speaker 5: and lose players and not fill the holes and the
Speaker 5: gaps that are needed and expect to get better that
Speaker 5: way and solely rely on the draft, Because that's a
Speaker 5: lot of pressure to put on your draft class that.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry last year's draft class didn't live up to
Speaker 5: expectations to be plug and play players. It makes me
Speaker 5: a little worried that that could be the case with
Speaker 5: some of the players in this draft class. I'm not
Speaker 5: saying all, but that's a lot of pressure to put
Speaker 5: on a first year player that's learning what it is
Speaker 5: to be in the NFL. You have to give these
Speaker 5: first year players grace no matter what your stance is.
Speaker 5: They can be plug and play players, but they need
Speaker 5: grace in the NFL to learn a new language, to
Speaker 5: understand a new system, to understand what it is to
Speaker 5: be an NFL player and an NFL player for the
Speaker 5: Dallas Cowboys two different things here. So to bring a
Speaker 5: guy like Zeke back, if they decide to do so,
Speaker 5: you're getting a guaranteed guy that knows what it is
Speaker 5: to be here. You're already paying cap.
Speaker 2: Space for him. You're already paying him.
Speaker 5: Technically, you might as well use that money so you
Speaker 5: don't have to pay anymore. It makes sense. I know
Speaker 5: there was questions about his productivity and what he's able
Speaker 5: to do. Still, look, it's Ezekiel Elliott. He's not the
Speaker 5: Zeke we once knew. We knew that, but when he
Speaker 5: was here, guess who was number one scoring in the
Speaker 5: red zone. Ezekiel Elliott in the Dallas Cowboys. So you
Speaker 5: can't tell me all that juice is taken out of him.
Speaker 5: He was with the Patriots last year wasn't his best year.
Speaker 5: Wasn't the Patriots last year wasn't Belichick's best year at either.
Speaker 5: But the point is is, if you can get a
Speaker 5: plug and play player that knows how to come in,
Speaker 5: knows your system, knows your coach, the locker room loves him,
Speaker 5: do it because you need to do something to get better.
Speaker 5: And I think when you have an Ezekiel Elliott in
Speaker 5: the locker room, you're a better team because of it.
Speaker 5: And you guys know how I feel about Zeke in
Speaker 5: the locker room. Great guy, great leader, He can teach
Speaker 5: the younger guys. I mean, he's willing to do what
Speaker 5: he needs to do and what more can you want?
Speaker 5: I'm off my sofa.
Speaker 2: It's two things for me. There is some concern about
Speaker 2: what the running back room looks like right now.
Speaker 7: Believe you have duce Vaughan Hunter Lipke, who I thought
Speaker 7: showed some good flashes last year and kind of showed
Speaker 7: maybe if he improves as that full back position that
Speaker 7: he can do some things also too. You always obviously
Speaker 7: brought back Regodad, but the buck stops there, and so
Speaker 7: to that point, es, I mean, experience and things of
Speaker 7: that nature do play a role in there.
Speaker 2: So technically it makes sense.
Speaker 7: But I also need the Cowboys to stop being that
Speaker 7: person that we know from high school that can't let
Speaker 7: go of the X.
Speaker 2: I I'm just I'm just ready like to figure out
Speaker 2: what's next.
Speaker 7: Most teams are going younger, Most teams are kind of
Speaker 7: trending in a different direction as far as what the
Speaker 7: running back position even looks like. Because even if you
Speaker 7: look at this draft, there's only like three guys that
Speaker 7: I consider thumpers. And when Zeke came out, that's what
Speaker 7: people were looking for. They were looking for a ground
Speaker 7: and pound and a lot of these guys now are
Speaker 7: a little.
Speaker 2: Bit more shifty. You can do some things in.
Speaker 7: Receiving game, you still need to be able to help
Speaker 7: out in pass pro things like that. But I'm on
Speaker 7: the fence about it because, like, to your point, yeah,
Speaker 7: this running back room is a little scarce right now
Speaker 7: as far as experience goes and things like that.
Speaker 2: But I'm also like, don't.
Speaker 7: Go in the opposite direction because most teams are not
Speaker 7: going in the opposite direction. They're trying to get younger, faster,
Speaker 7: and more elusive from a passing game perspective as well.
Speaker 7: So that's how I feel.
Speaker 6: About it, And it's not it's not an either or thing.
Speaker 6: You know, if Zeke comes back, like you say, it's
Speaker 6: obviously not to be the featured guy. And so I
Speaker 6: think that his coming back depends on who which running
Speaker 6: back they draft.
Speaker 4: I think there's no question that they're going to draft.
Speaker 7: They're going to show an interest in quite a few
Speaker 7: running backs to the combine.
Speaker 6: Access and stuff like that, and so z would be
Speaker 6: a great complimentary back. You know, if if you don't
Speaker 6: get one of the thumpers, if you don't get in
Speaker 6: guy who can run inside and be a short yardage he's.
Speaker 7: Cheap maybe bring them and because again, you don't have
Speaker 7: any Like Deuce was an active a lot, which was annoying,
Speaker 7: but he was an active a lot. We've talked about
Speaker 7: the run game and just schematically what it was either too.
Speaker 7: I mean you also got to think about it for
Speaker 7: a guy like Zeke to come man, unless he's just
Speaker 7: doing goal line things. We don't know what this offensive
Speaker 7: line is going to be like also too.
Speaker 2: Going into next season, so that.
Speaker 7: Also plays a role to me. And what type of
Speaker 7: running back you're looking for. Do you want a guy
Speaker 7: that can see it and just go because maybe that
Speaker 7: hole is not super big with.
Speaker 2: Or it's not open up quick quick enough with this
Speaker 2: offensive line.
Speaker 7: It's there's a lot of factors that play into it,
Speaker 7: but I will concede that it would make sense given.
Speaker 2: That they have not touched free agency.
Speaker 7: Really, I don't really know how many running backs and
Speaker 7: free agency are left.
Speaker 2: Because Cordel Patterson was.
Speaker 7: Someone I was like, y'all, please, he gonna cost like
Speaker 7: five dollars, just bring him in here, see and help
Speaker 7: with your return game, be a veteran whatever the case
Speaker 7: may be.
Speaker 2: But I mean, yeah, he's he's he probably the best
Speaker 2: option right now. I think.
Speaker 4: Possibility.
Speaker 5: I think at this point though, in order for them
Speaker 5: not to be the high school what what did you?
Speaker 5: How did you hype X? They missed that boat. It's
Speaker 5: too late in free agency now to not be that
Speaker 5: anymore because you had options available and you didn't have
Speaker 5: the I mean, it's to get like a splash running back.
Speaker 4: Then, Josh Jacob, if you wanted to be all in.
Speaker 5: And not be the high school ex girlfriend, like the
Speaker 5: big names are gone already.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you heard him.
Speaker 4: You could have had the Giants X, so you could
Speaker 4: have had the Raiders X.
Speaker 5: We started on it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, from from a from a money standpoint, just so
Speaker 6: you know last year Zeke. Of course the Cowboys were
Speaker 6: paying him dead cap space last year too. But when
Speaker 6: he signed as a free agent with the Patriots last year,
Speaker 6: he signed a one year, three million dollar deal. Okay,
Speaker 6: and as for you mentioned, we're you're paying him again
Speaker 6: this year. So he counts a six point four million
Speaker 6: against the Cowboys app so he's and then right behind
Speaker 6: him at six million is Tyron Smith.
Speaker 5: You might as well just put that money to use. Well,
Speaker 5: I mean, look, well you would, you'd have to.
Speaker 4: Pay him on top of that.
Speaker 5: But at least you're paying him to play for you
Speaker 5: and not another team, like it's your stuff to pay
Speaker 5: him on top of that. But I'm just saying, and
Speaker 5: if you're talking about offensive line that it might be
Speaker 5: struggling because we don't know what it looks like. You know,
Speaker 5: Zeke can block. You know he can block, and.
Speaker 6: You don't know if your rookie running back can Yeah,
Speaker 6: if he's playing a lot, Yeah, because Tony Tony stepped
Speaker 6: up a lot.
Speaker 5: Yeah. And as much as people don't want to give
Speaker 5: him credit MG MG was blocking his tail off this
Speaker 5: last season, he's not here anymore. So again, you have
Speaker 5: holes that you need to fill in terms of blocking.
Speaker 5: It stems from the offensive line, but there's more parts
Speaker 5: to it. You know, Zeke can do that too, so
Speaker 5: it I don't love the idea of like going back
Speaker 5: to your past. I agree with you, but at this point,
Speaker 5: like the situation you're in, you kind of have to
Speaker 5: either do that. You can go with the Dell and
Speaker 5: Cook who also has experience, but you need something. You
Speaker 5: can't just sit here and wait for for something to happen.
Speaker 5: It has to something has to happen. They have to
Speaker 5: go out and do something.
Speaker 2: I have a question.
Speaker 3: As of as of today, ric o'doddell is running back
Speaker 3: one as of today, if the season were to start today,
Speaker 3: do y'all have faith that Rico could be that feature back?
Speaker 2: Honestly?
Speaker 4: I mean no, they're they're they're gonna draft a running
Speaker 4: I mean I know that, But I.
Speaker 3: Want to know if we have confidence in Rico o'doddle
Speaker 3: that he could be a future back.
Speaker 6: I as a person and skill set, I like him,
Speaker 6: but he has an injury history, so you have to
Speaker 6: I'm looking at it holistically, and so you it's just
Speaker 6: like almost like a Leyton Vanderesh should be great if
Speaker 6: he decided to come back, but even if he wanted to,
Speaker 6: you couldn't count on him to get through the season.
Speaker 6: So I'm sorry to if that sounds harsh, but you
Speaker 6: think you have to look at the look at the
Speaker 6: whole deal and and and as much as I love
Speaker 6: Rico when I do, but he has some injury history.
Speaker 5: I think he wants it, and I think he's He's
Speaker 5: worked extremely hard to be where he is. He there's
Speaker 5: a lot of players that would have given up after
Speaker 5: year of year and year of injury taking him out
Speaker 5: of the game and there's a reason the Cowboys have
Speaker 5: kept him around this long. When he is healthy, yes,
Speaker 5: I absolutely believe he could be the featured back. Last year,
Speaker 5: he was dealing with the nagging ankle injury, which isn't
Speaker 5: a reoccurring injury. The reoccurring injury that has been happening
Speaker 5: in the past was his hip, so that wasn't bothering
Speaker 5: him last season. I talked to him a lot about
Speaker 5: his health and kind of what he was doing in
Speaker 5: order to stay healthy, and it was they just like
Speaker 5: we talked about Tyrone Smith, how they kind of changed his, uh,
Speaker 5: his practice schedule and and his rehabbing and his and
Speaker 5: all of that same thing. For Rico, they had to
Speaker 5: kind of adjust what he was doing in order to
Speaker 5: stay healthy. And for the most part, I mean that
Speaker 5: nagging hip injury didn't come back last season, so it
Speaker 5: was the ankle injury that you could see got dug
Speaker 5: into Oh goodness what I don't remember what week it was,
Speaker 5: but you could see it happen and that was kind
Speaker 5: of what was happening. He was still playing on it though,
Speaker 5: So again I think when he's healthy, yes, but also
Speaker 5: you haven't seen enough of him. You saw something you
Speaker 5: saw more of him last season than you've seen, but
Speaker 5: that wasn't enough to really know. So training camp is
Speaker 5: gonna be real fun no matter what happens. And he's
Speaker 5: somebody that I really I want to see how he
Speaker 5: does now going forward.
Speaker 7: This is his opportunity now or never. That's that's pretty
Speaker 7: much all I got about that.
Speaker 6: And you know, we should also mentioned Malik Davis because
Speaker 6: he would step up into kind of the Rico role
Speaker 6: if Rico were were first. And then the other thing is,
Speaker 6: I think we're going to see more and more of
Speaker 6: Hunter Lipkey. We we saw we saw the way that
Speaker 6: McCarthy used the kune and the fullbacks you know, always
Speaker 6: in Green Bay. You know, it seemed like he was
Speaker 6: a guy that you could always count on to make
Speaker 6: a play kune, and so you know, you could see
Speaker 6: that for Lipkey moving forward, and he could he could
Speaker 6: be your short yardage guy too, but he's more of
Speaker 6: a traditional fullback.
Speaker 7: Then well I mean, honestly, well I would actually push
Speaker 7: back on that, like Hunter is a running.
Speaker 6: Well running back or the other thing is we didn't
Speaker 6: see him a lot. I think we're gonna see.
Speaker 4: Him more this year. A part of a passing game.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, he can do some things in a passing game.
Speaker 7: He can do some things in short yardage situations. I
Speaker 7: thought that his blocking and the angles he took and
Speaker 7: his vision improved.
Speaker 2: As the year went on. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 7: I think Hunter Lipkey is gonna definitely take a tick
Speaker 7: up this year in his usage and also too, if
Speaker 7: you look at some of the better teams, having a
Speaker 7: fullback is a valuable thing when you talk about how
Speaker 7: light some of these linebackers defensive line and those guys
Speaker 7: are starting to get. If you have a guy that
Speaker 7: can get to the second level, then that can open
Speaker 7: up some big plays. And I thought that he was
Speaker 7: a good addition to the team last year, just kind
Speaker 7: of getting his feet wet. Definitely expect for him to
Speaker 7: have a tick up this year, and it might tell
Speaker 7: us if they don't, like honestly, if they don't go
Speaker 7: take a Zeke, if they don't go grab anyone else,
Speaker 7: it might tell you that, yeah, they're reserving that role
Speaker 7: for him and they're just gonna go draft another guy.
Speaker 5: I feel like they kind of were doing that until
Speaker 5: the fumble, I believe in Week sixteen, which after you
Speaker 5: look back at it, it wasn't just on him.
Speaker 2: It was also the handoff for communication issues there.
Speaker 5: And so I think at that point they kind of
Speaker 5: took a step back and they scaled back, but they
Speaker 5: were giving him more and more leeway up until that point.
Speaker 5: They were using him at the goal line a lot
Speaker 5: more so. To your point, I really think that's something
Speaker 5: that now, with his first year under his belt, he
Speaker 5: was an undrafted free agent who had really no expectations
Speaker 5: coming in here. He absolutely deserves his second year to
Speaker 5: get more opportunity and see what.
Speaker 6: He can do with it.
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Speaker 3: Real quick, ladies, we knew they're coming into a free
Speaker 3: agency obviously that you know, the Cowboys would have had
Speaker 3: the choice between Jordan Lewis and Stefan Gilmore picking one
Speaker 3: of those guys to stay here with Dallas. Of course
Speaker 3: they resigned Jordan, but now still no word on Stefan
Speaker 3: Gilmour and whether or not he'll be returning. But I
Speaker 3: know Stephen Jones did somewhat address that room a little bit.
Speaker 3: He didn't say.
Speaker 5: Whether or not they will be bringing him back or not.
Speaker 3: What is y'all's thoughts on whether or not what you'll
Speaker 3: be missing from what Gilly Gilly brought to.
Speaker 5: That room leadership and veteran experience. He was. He was
Speaker 5: the reason that your secondary stood a chance after Trayvon
Speaker 5: Diggs went out so early in the season. U And
Speaker 5: that's no shade to anybody in that room. Jlu admitted
Speaker 5: how long it took for him to reacclimate after his
Speaker 5: foot injury and just kind of no pun intended seriously
Speaker 5: get his footing back in because it's hard to do when,
Speaker 5: especially with a foot injury, your muscle memory comes back in.
Speaker 5: It was hard for him, and he talked a lot
Speaker 5: about that. But somebody likes Steffan Gilmour can come in
Speaker 5: be a plug and play player and an impact maker.
Speaker 5: So you have your plug and play players that are
Speaker 5: going to come in, You're going to play, but you
Speaker 5: have an impact maker and a difference maker. To have
Speaker 5: both of those in one player is special and Stefan
Speaker 5: Gilmore is that player. So I think that's what he
Speaker 5: brought more than anything. But yeah, Stevens comments didn't make
Speaker 5: me optimistic. So we'll see what happens. But I'm not
Speaker 5: very optimistic that you'll see him wearing a star again.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean from a depth standpoint. I mean we've
Speaker 7: talked about it even on the Draft show. Is that
Speaker 7: you know, corner might be something that they need to
Speaker 7: look at because you know, I think you.
Speaker 2: Still Havenron Bland.
Speaker 7: Obviously, Trayvon Diggs is locked up, but behind that, most
Speaker 7: of those guys are like one two years away from
Speaker 7: not being on this team anymore. And then when you
Speaker 7: look at even the guy like Eric Scott that they
Speaker 7: drafted late last year. Unfortunately he was a guy that
Speaker 7: Dan Quinn drafted. And when you have a new coach
Speaker 7: come in a lot of the time, they have different
Speaker 7: visions they want to have their guys. So it also
Speaker 7: puts some of these young guys that are down the
Speaker 7: roster at the position in a place to where they're
Speaker 7: going to have to show what they're made of and
Speaker 7: see if they appeal to the new coach and.
Speaker 2: What he's able to do.
Speaker 7: Now, I will say, with Trayvon Diggs coming back from
Speaker 7: an ACL, I don't have the expectation that he's going
Speaker 7: to just automatically, very quickly be that Trayvon that we expect.
Speaker 7: I know, he did get injured early in the season,
Speaker 7: so he may be a little bit more ahead. But
Speaker 7: I just the Stefan Gilmour thing was also insurance in
Speaker 7: a way that I think is a luxury in the
Speaker 7: NFL to have him, someone like him, to his caliber
Speaker 7: as insurance, so toughest nails to play with the rotator
Speaker 7: cuff injury through a playoff game.
Speaker 8: Yep.
Speaker 7: A little crazy honestly too. I mean, but it's sad
Speaker 7: to see him go because I mean just some of
Speaker 7: the conversations I got to have with him. He's such
Speaker 7: a teacher and he'll teach you without even realizing it
Speaker 7: just in conversation. So to your point, Jess, I think
Speaker 7: that this locker room's going to miss him. I think
Speaker 7: this young locker room, a lot of those young guys
Speaker 7: in the secondary are going to miss him because Trayvon
Speaker 7: even mentioned that he's been mentoring him since he came
Speaker 7: into the league, so they're connected at the hip anyway.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it is what it is. You're gonna have
Speaker 2: to figure it out at this point.
Speaker 5: So it's also so disappointing knowing you didn't get to
Speaker 5: see a lot of Trey and Gilly on the field
Speaker 5: together because it was just so exciting the thought of
Speaker 5: seeing both of them in the backfield, just man two ballhawks.
Speaker 5: But yeah, youth has to step up at some point,
Speaker 5: take what he taught them and go from there.
Speaker 6: He was ten point nine to eight million Gilmour against
Speaker 6: the cap last year and they just they they can't
Speaker 6: afford that the way that they're managing the cap now
Speaker 6: and the way they're trying to apply their resources and
Speaker 6: set up the cap not just for this year but
Speaker 6: future years. So it's unfortunate and all the but but
Speaker 6: you miss him on the field too, and not just
Speaker 6: all the pro stuff, because there were a couple of
Speaker 6: games at the end of last year where they they
Speaker 6: had their top the Cowboys had their top cornerback travel
Speaker 6: basically go man to man with the top receiver for
Speaker 6: the other team instead of just playing all that bad
Speaker 6: game Metcalf and so when they traveled the player towards
Speaker 6: the end of last year, it was not Drawn Bland.
Speaker 4: It was Gilmore.
Speaker 7: I mean, just the way he stepped up in that
Speaker 7: that Seahawks game, see that fire and him.
Speaker 6: That was again, just to remind everyone, Metcalf kind of
Speaker 6: trash talked Gilly early in that game, and Gilly like, yeah.
Speaker 4: Called him old, called him old, and then who's old?
Speaker 4: Nelly shut him down.
Speaker 3: Gilly, And you're getting a guy like like all of
Speaker 3: y'all said, but you're getting a guy whose durability is
Speaker 3: off this roof. I know he got injured before the
Speaker 3: playoff game and still play through it, But I mean
Speaker 3: for a guy.
Speaker 4: His age, what is he like thirty?
Speaker 2: I think it's thirty three.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you're getting a durable guy.
Speaker 2: And the tackling girl. Because that's one thing about Gilly.
Speaker 7: When they first signed him, I looked back at his
Speaker 7: film the year before and yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm impressed with the coverage, but I'm also just impressed
Speaker 2: if he's not a huge guy. We've seen him in person.
Speaker 7: He's not a huge guy, but his willingness to tackle
Speaker 7: it also sex the example for those young guys that
Speaker 7: hey man, you can be great in coverage if you
Speaker 7: want to, but if you're not gonna tackle nobody coming
Speaker 7: off this edge, then what are we talking about here?
Speaker 7: He really shut He's such a total cornerback and you
Speaker 7: just don't get to see that in this league that often.
Speaker 2: So I gonna miss him, but we understand what's going on.
Speaker 5: He takes care of his body too. To your point,
Speaker 5: because I remember during training camp, Trey was talking about
Speaker 5: how he was eating like I think a bag of
Speaker 5: candy or something, and Gilly was like, what are you
Speaker 5: eating that for? And Trey was like okay, Like he
Speaker 5: kind of was showing the guys how to take care
Speaker 5: of their body. So we'll see.
Speaker 3: Definitely a guy will hopefully hopefully comes back, but if not,
Speaker 3: we understand.
Speaker 2: Like Aisha said, that's a rap.
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