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Speaker 1: Don't listen Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's rock into this Sunday evening. I am all

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Speaker 2: especially because I am speaking to a man who is

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Speaker 2: so accomplished. That is how I feel about you, Ephram

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Speaker 2: Salav You are an accomplished man, okay. You are a

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Speaker 2: You are a family man. You have a lovely wife,

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Speaker 2: you have two boys. You are an accomplished person. Therefore,

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Speaker 2: I have a very specific question for you to start

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Speaker 2: off this show tonight. Don't you think that whenever you

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Speaker 2: achieve something, you'd like that to be a part of it,

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Speaker 2: that sense of accomplishment rather than having it handed to you.

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Speaker 3: Of course, right, you accomplish something, you feel like you

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Speaker 3: earned it.

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Speaker 2: You get it, You've worked for it. Yes, okay, good

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Speaker 2: that I would assume. I can only assume that you

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Speaker 2: would agree with me that the Miami Heat have no

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Speaker 2: interest whatsoever in winning a championship because players out on

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Speaker 2: the open market, or some who aren't even on the

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Speaker 2: open market, have decided they are going to work their

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Speaker 2: way directly to you without any help from you, not

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Speaker 2: because not because you did a good job as a

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Speaker 2: not because you did good job evaluating or roster building

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Speaker 2: or any of that, simply because you exist. You exist

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Speaker 2: in Miami, Florida, a top market, You've got a great

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Speaker 2: culture built by pot Riley, a very good coach, and

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Speaker 2: need to do anything. You just need to sit there

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Speaker 2: and then what if you win, you'll feel some sort

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Speaker 3: What we don't see is the work behind the scenes.

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Speaker 3: So in reality, yes, it looks like a bevy and

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Speaker 3: go to Miami. First of all, Miami's Miami and Celia self. Secondly,

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Speaker 3: the relationships these players have are tremendous. Right, So if

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Speaker 3: I call you, you play on one team. I play

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Speaker 3: on one team. I'm in Miami. I've reached out to you,

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Speaker 3: maybe I've been talking to you all through the season.

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Speaker 3: Season ends, and you're a dynamic player, and I was like, yo, man,

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Speaker 3: this offseason once you come hang with me in Miami.

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Speaker 3: So you come down, we hang, we you know, do

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Speaker 2: Whatever that is.

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Speaker 3: And now a situation comes up to where, hum, you

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Speaker 3: want to go do?

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Speaker 3: By the way, we just played in the NBA Championship again,

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Speaker 3: second time in three years. Why wouldn't you want to

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Speaker 3: go to my Miami shouldn't have to recruit you, right,

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Speaker 3: you picked the place you want to go. I want

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Speaker 3: to go to Miami, No State, Texas, Son, bb l's

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Speaker 3: everything you want in Miami is you know is out there?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 3: Some places recruit themselves LA, Right, Miami, New York, brook Brooklyn,

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Speaker 3: he remember he put Brooklyn on the list. And we're like, well,

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Speaker 3: what is going on there? Why Brooklyn brook.

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Speaker 2: Did he put him on the list? Right? Did he

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Speaker 2: some of those teams at certain points in their history

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Speaker 2: that all applies to a free agent. This is not

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Speaker 2: a free agent. If you wanted to go to Miami

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Speaker 2: and you could do exactly what the man who started

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Speaker 2: but that guy waited until he was a free agent.

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Speaker 2: Then he had Jim Gray come over. They sat on

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Speaker 2: to take his talents to South Peach. You want to

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Speaker 2: player options at the end of every year. Gosh, if

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Speaker 2: then do that. But when you're not a free agent,

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Speaker 2: And again I totally get it. I get that Portland

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Speaker 2: has not been able to do what you wanted them

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Speaker 2: to do to get things and pieces around you throughout

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Speaker 2: your very wonderful career. They've also made you an incredibly

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Speaker 2: He earned every single dollar. I think that's great. But

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Speaker 2: if you want to trade, then you ask for a trade.

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Speaker 2: I just don't like you have to trade me there,

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Speaker 2: because that takes essentially, that takes all of the different

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent. It takes away all the roster building,

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Speaker 2: all the fun for the fans. And how is how's

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Speaker 2: your team going to go get Dame? Like again, what

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Speaker 2: did Miami achieve here? If Dame says I'm going there

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Speaker 2: and that's where I'm going and you'll get who they

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Speaker 2: have to give up and you have absolutely no leverage

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Speaker 2: because I've taken it from you because I've decided to

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Speaker 3: It's a funny time we're living in. Business is done differently.

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Speaker 3: Players have more of a voice now than ever before.

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Speaker 3: It's not a bad thing. So with that, organizations, agents,

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Speaker 3: owners have to move differently. Now owners can't really do

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Speaker 2: But players are players.

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Speaker 3: I could talk to whoever I want to, I can

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Speaker 3: hang out with whoever I want to, and I can

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Speaker 3: decide on things that may not be conducive to the

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Speaker 3: betterment of the organization or the franchise, but it can

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Speaker 3: be better for me. And right now, I've sacrificed a

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Speaker 3: decade of mediocrity with the franchise. That and EPE can't

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Speaker 3: put a promising, competing team on the court that has

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Speaker 2: That's it. But I don't think that is it like

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Speaker 2: the way you're saying it. I totally get I'm not

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Speaker 2: here trying to play pawn for the owners of basketball teams.

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Speaker 2: I think it's funny when we say, oh gosh, we

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Speaker 2: Like people, we'll look at this and go Dame Lillard

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Speaker 2: was very loyal to Portland for a long time, and

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Speaker 2: then he just ran out of time. He's thirty two.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't want his career to go a certain way.

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Speaker 2: Portland is never going to get there. He's right, and

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Speaker 2: so it's fully understandable. Well, then you quietly behind the scenes,

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Speaker 2: mutually beneficial for everyone. When you just go to Twitter

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Speaker 2: and go, yeah, let's have my agent say Miami kills you.

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Speaker 2: You're done, You're dead. There's not a damn thing. But

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Speaker 2: that is equivalent to, hey, Portland, thank you for the

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Speaker 2: two hundred million dollars. Let me step on your nose

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Speaker 2: on the way out of town, because not only am

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Speaker 2: I leaving, I'm telling you where to send me, so

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Speaker 2: you don't even have the power to call around and

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Speaker 2: get what is best for you in return.

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Speaker 3: But wait, that's what I don't understand. But they they

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Speaker 3: just had a meeting two days ago.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh. They just had a closed door meeting.

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Speaker 3: So when we're talking about all of this, something had

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Speaker 3: to have transpired in that meeting to where forty eight

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Speaker 3: hours later, Dame is I need to be out? Remember

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Speaker 3: coming out of that meeting. What they said, Dame Damien

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Speaker 3: Two days later, like, so what happened? What aren't we getting?

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Speaker 3: What is the information we're not getting? And based on

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Speaker 3: that and based on that information, that's why Dame was like,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to Miami, y'all figure it out.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be over here waiting. Yeah, except for if

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Speaker 2: I'm Portland and you know what, I what I don't

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Speaker 2: I'll look it up right now. What does Dame have

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Speaker 2: left on his current contracts? He signed a four year,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy six million dollar deal, and he

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Speaker 3: He's got two more years at forty five and forty

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Speaker 3: eight million dollars right, so roughly ninety three million dollars

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Speaker 2: I mean, if I'm Portland, like this is not a

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Speaker 2: resign with you, and be like that's fine, you have

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Speaker 2: two more years on your deal. If I'm the Portland Trailblazers,

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Speaker 2: I say thank you so much for the suggestion of

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Speaker 2: the Miami Heat. If they can put together the best offer,

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Speaker 2: that's exactly where we'll send you. But if they don't,

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Speaker 2: we won't. And that's exactly what the Portland Trailblazers should

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, technically they only have Dame for

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Speaker 3: one year because I believe he has a player option

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Speaker 2: Does it's already been exercised though, Okay, it's already been exercised,

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Speaker 2: at least what I'm reading this has already been exercised

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Speaker 2: for forty eight point seven million dollars for the five season.

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Speaker 2: So you get Okay, you get two years. Okay, he

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Speaker 3: M Yeah, I it's some relationships have to end. Some

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Speaker 3: relationships have to end. Now how they end is determined

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Speaker 3: by how the relationship was when they were together, right, Right,

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Speaker 3: you go through a divorce if it's amicable and it's

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: That means, okay, look, we had a hell of a

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Speaker 2: We've grown apart.

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Speaker 3: I love you as a person, not my person, right,

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Speaker 2: I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna part on good terms are which I

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Speaker 3: think this situation is here are it's the I hate you.

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Speaker 3: You've ruined my life. The last ten years have been

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Speaker 3: a nightmare. I'll say nine because our first year was bliss.

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Speaker 3: So I've spent nine years hating my life. Now I

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Speaker 3: hate you for hating my life. We're gonna drag this out,

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Speaker 3: and it's gonna be painful. We've seen those type of negotiations,

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Speaker 3: but right now everything seems like we've grown apart. I

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Speaker 3: you to the place you want to be. That's what

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Speaker 3: it feels like to me. To equate it in relationship turns,

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Speaker 3: which I think everyone can. Everyone who's been in a relationship. Uh,

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Speaker 2: I feel you. Here's why I don't think that's what's

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Speaker 2: That's Eve from Salama Mark Willard. What a week for agent? Huh?

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Speaker 2: I mean, what is this? What's this new thing with

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Speaker 3: First off, we get to get every breaking news, every trade,

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Speaker 3: If I look and see that Fred van Vliek got

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Speaker 2: Right? It's rich, Paul, I believe. Right.

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Speaker 3: So if as an agent you can stack three or

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Speaker 3: He wouldn't even start for two undred seven, two hundred

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what we do this? We do this. This is

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Speaker 2: And Houston step on up, you're that team? Why I

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Speaker 3: The more the deal. I'm gonna ask you a question,

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Speaker 2: Got that agent? Oh gosh, you remember that deal? I

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Speaker 3: If you're School Henderson, you're like, nah, I'm good, I'm

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Speaker 2: No? You might. You might have a hard time figuring

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Speaker 3: You a dynamic team. And I'm talking about the real

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Speaker 5: All I need is still in Brooks agent. That's what

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Speaker 2: I think how many how many guaranteed years do you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. Management would have to know that I'm actually

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Speaker 3: That's it beautiful and that's why they pay him the

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Speaker 2: Back to you all, and he does that so so well,

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Speaker 2: we get back to Dame Lillard in the NBA, Steve

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Speaker 2: mentioned show, Hey Otani and I don't have the exact

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Speaker 2: number in front of me, but somebody was working kind

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Speaker 2: of behind the scenes with a high level baseball executive

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Speaker 2: last week and based on you know, this changes every

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Speaker 2: week and the way he's playing right now, and he

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Speaker 2: quite frankly should be in the starting lineup for the

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Speaker 2: All Star Game and be the starting pitcher for the

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Speaker 2: American League. That's if baseball knew how to put on

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Speaker 2: a show. They usually don't. But anyway, leading the majors

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Speaker 2: in home runs, I mean, an absolute rocket ship. And

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Speaker 2: this conversation with a high level exec said, right now,

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Speaker 2: if this free agency were to start today, that opening offer,

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Speaker 2: let's call it. How about you know ten years, five

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five million dollars, and the exact fireback

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Speaker 2: immediately said, you're too low.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, where is baseball getting all this money?

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Speaker 2: Good lord, I don't know what I mean this guy

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Speaker 2: and the latest word also heard, and I don't know

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Speaker 2: how to put any stock into any of this at all.

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Speaker 2: You know, show Hey is the biggest but also most

464
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Speaker 2: mysterious free agent because the language barrier prevents us from

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Speaker 2: maybe getting to know him in the way that we

466
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Speaker 2: might know other superstars. Of course, right, so I never

467
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: to know what Big Poppy was talking about, right, but

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Speaker 2: but not even that, like we can't even gather sort

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Speaker 2: of like what's the tone of what he's saying, what's

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Speaker 2: the look behind his eyes? We're just it's like, I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know anything about the guy. I

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Speaker 2: know I'm mes arized by him, but I don't know

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Speaker 2: anything about what he's thinking. I did read an article

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Speaker 2: yesterday that said he is absolutely bound and determined to

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Speaker 2: stay on the West Coast, that that that's why he

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Speaker 2: picked it the first time, and he's going to pick

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Speaker 2: it again, And that particular article and report therefore suggested Angels,

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Speaker 2: Dodgers Giants as the new sort of favorite big three.

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Speaker 3: That's all you got. You know, They're welcome on with

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Speaker 3: open arms down here in La.

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Speaker 2: Now at the Dodgers, Oh come on, I mean they're

482
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Speaker 2: the favorite. The of course they got to be the favorite.

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Speaker 3: The brand, baby, although only one bigger brand in baseball.

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Speaker 2: Although the the way, the the way the Angels are playing,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, I mean, I think they

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Speaker 2: haven't been playing all that great of late, but they

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Speaker 2: got a winning record.

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Speaker 3: Yea, it still doesn't matter because even though he's in

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Speaker 3: southern California, the marketing dollars aren't there like it would

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Speaker 3: be if he came up an hour, you know, an

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Speaker 3: hour north.

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Speaker 2: I would love to hear an expert actually explain to

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Speaker 2: me right like, because it's not like it's not like

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Speaker 2: we haven't all heard of show. Hey, the name value

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Speaker 2: is not suffering because he's ana high, right, So what

496
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Speaker 2: marketing dollars are not available to him right now?

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Speaker 3: I would think the brand. It's all about the brand, though,

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Speaker 3: when you attach the talent with the brand is symbiotic.

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Speaker 3: You can have tremendous talent anywhere right and be a

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Speaker 3: great player. But if you're a great player like Derek

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Speaker 3: Jeter anywhere is a great player, right A Rod was

502
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Speaker 3: a great player. But when you get to the brand,

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Speaker 3: when you get to the Yankees, now, it takes on

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Speaker 3: the life. It's the biggest market in the world.

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Speaker 2: I totally get it. So, however, what I want to

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Speaker 2: know is what's the dollar value for that? And my

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Speaker 2: secondary question would be, is show hey a brand buster?

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Speaker 2: Because Derek Jeter is your perfect comp that you just

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Speaker 2: brought up. Derek Jeter was a wonderful baseball player, but

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Speaker 2: you had to sort of have like an intricate knowledge

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Speaker 2: of the little things that he did on the field.

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Speaker 2: He didn't hit thirty home runs a year, right he

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Speaker 2: was a shortstop. He was a good hitter, but he

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Speaker 2: was that shortstop and he looked the way he did

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Speaker 2: and and you know Mariah Carey and all the things

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Speaker 2: that would go just sort of be about the aura

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Speaker 2: of Derek Jeter is what built him into a superstar.

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Speaker 2: Show Hey doesn't need that. He's like, I pitch and

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Speaker 2: lead the league at home runs. I don't need to

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Speaker 2: explain to you why I'm the most amazing thing in

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Speaker 2: the sport right now. So I just what is that

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Speaker 2: dollar figure that suddenly is available to him thirty miles

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Speaker 2: up the road.

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Speaker 3: It's it's branding. When you attach a talent with one

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Speaker 3: of the most recognizable brands in the world, it makes sense.

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Speaker 3: It opens up different doors, right, like.

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Speaker 2: If you.

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Speaker 3: Currently right, there are a few brand but like I'll

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Speaker 3: take you like this all right? You put Lebron James

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Speaker 3: in Cleveland. He was from Cleveland, right, he was Cleveland's everything.

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Speaker 3: But then he goes to Miami. It's like, okay, he

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Speaker 3: goes to la It's just a different animal, was it?

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Speaker 3: Like o'bdno was already a billionaire before he even got

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Speaker 3: to La. Well, he wasn't quite a billionaire before he

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Speaker 3: got here. He's definitely a billionaire now because this is

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Speaker 3: where business is done. He would have to get on

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Speaker 3: a plane. He would, Oh, Giannis is out of there,

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Speaker 3: Like he won't be signing another extension in Milwaukee. Maybe

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Speaker 3: that's a that's a perfect example, perfect example for the Lakers,

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Speaker 3: or he plays for uh, the Knicks or or or someone.

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Speaker 2: Like, it's a whole other level. Gianni's is great, he's great,

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Speaker 2: But what's the what's the what is the financial number?

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Speaker 2: Especially in the NBA, you either make the max or

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Speaker 2: you make the max and and yeah, they're off the

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Speaker 2: court opportunities. But I do feel like certain NBA players

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Speaker 2: get to the point where they can have as much

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Speaker 2: or as little of that as they want. I think

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Speaker 2: Jannis is one of those guys.

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Speaker 3: No, no, I disagree, because market size matters. That's why guys,

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Speaker 3: you know now, I will say this, I will say this.

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Speaker 3: It has gotten much better because the reach now for

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Speaker 3: social media and you can brand and reach out to

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Speaker 3: millions of people directly.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: You don't need to be with a conglomerate or in

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Speaker 3: the same location as that conglomerate. You can build your

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00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 3: own brand, your own worth in all of those things.

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Speaker 3: But the things locally that come with being in New York,

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Speaker 3: being in LA right, being in you know, some parts

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Speaker 3: of Texas or something like that, it just speaks for itself,

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Speaker 3: it really does. You put an ultimate talent with an

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Speaker 3: ultimate brand. That's why the Yankees are the Yankees, man,

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00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 3: That's why the Yankees are the Yankees.

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Speaker 2: Sure, I get that, right, I get what the Dodgers

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Speaker 2: are the Dodgers, I get it. I just I wonder

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Speaker 2: about show hey, who is not like the fans are

567
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Speaker 2: ever goingting the language Barrier is never going to change, right,

568
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Speaker 2: and he's already the biggest He's the biggest thing in

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Speaker 2: the sport where he is. So how do you go

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Speaker 2: from number one to number one? Or or at least

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Speaker 2: what's the dollar value? Is my is my question. I'm glad,

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought up the Lakers because this Dame

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Speaker 2: Lillard thing, you know, you know it's kind of their fault,

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Speaker 2: right you do know that? Right? Well, we'll get to

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Speaker 2: it here we go, coming up next five Sports Radio. Okay,

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Speaker 2: tyrack dot com Studios, Mark Willody from salam I mean

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Speaker 2: not actually the Lakers fault. It's not the Lakers fault.

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Speaker 2: It's not their fault of the number one brand. It's

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Speaker 2: not their fault there in Los Angeles, California. And when

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00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 2: opportunity knocks, why would you not strike? That's life. So

581
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 2: there's no blame here. But this Dame Lillard conversation that's

582
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 2: happening right now, to me, it feels very much like

583
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Speaker 2: the way Anthony Davis made his way to the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna lie to you, just as a fan,

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00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: I don't like it. I don't like the whole idea.

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00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 2: Like look, at the way fantasy sports have taken over.

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00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 2: And you probably know this real well. The younger the

588
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 2: players are in a fantasy league, the more trades that happen.

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Speaker 2: My son and his fantasy league. My god, these guys

590
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: are trade every two days. There's a blockbuster deal. You

591
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 2: get to adulthood, you know, we're in our forties. It's

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00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 2: a little bit different now. You just have a more

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Speaker 2: conservative sort of approach to life. But trades are a

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00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 2: big part of fandom. The ESPN trade machine and all

595
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Speaker 2: the things that we do. Looking at the way these

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Speaker 2: deals come together, it is not fun for the fans

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Speaker 2: of the league at large. Sure, if you're on, if

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Speaker 2: you're a fan of the team that is receiving the star,

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Speaker 2: you dig that. But where is the competitiveness? Where is

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Speaker 2: the fun in I would like to be traded, and

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Speaker 2: you must trade me there. And if you don't trade

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Speaker 2: me there, I'm going home with my ball, yak and

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Speaker 2: and I know you're not going to apologize for it.

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Speaker 2: I'm not I get it. I get it. I wouldn't either,

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Speaker 2: but I would like to at least see a player.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying stay loyal to the organization, but why

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Speaker 2: kick him in there. You know what's on the way

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Speaker 2: off the door. Hey man, this is essentially what it

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Speaker 2: feels like is happening here.

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Speaker 3: Hey you talking to a former professional athlete. Yep, Okay,

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Speaker 3: there is no such thing as loyalty. There is no

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Speaker 3: such thing as why would a player do that?

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Speaker 2: But I'm not asking for loyalty at the door. But

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Speaker 2: they'll punch you in the gut though.

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Speaker 3: Really, I'm not talking about I'm not talking about Portland

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Speaker 3: and its itself. I'm talking about as owners, as players

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Speaker 3: that there's them and us mentality? Are us in them mentality?

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Speaker 3: Because number one, they control the cards until players now

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Speaker 3: recently have started to control their own cards.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: I've been on a team where a player has played

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Speaker 3: in a game with me and the next day he

623
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Speaker 3: was on a plane to god knows where. Okay, do

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Speaker 3: you think that player who was just out there playing

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Speaker 3: sixty and giving everything then dropping his kids off at

626
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Speaker 3: school that next morning to get to work, to realize

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Speaker 3: I won't be here to take my kids to school

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Speaker 3: for the rest of the year.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: So, when you really look at the grand scope of it,

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Speaker 3: when players have the opportunity to control something in their career,

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Speaker 3: just like any other profession, they take the control. They're

633
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 3: going to take the control because in normal situations we

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00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: don't get it. That's what contracts are for. They lock

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00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 3: you up and they own your rights. Well, now, if

636
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 3: you're a big enough player, you get to be like, nah,

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Speaker 3: I'm good.

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Speaker 2: The empowerment side, the loyalty side, lack thereof, the control side.

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Speaker 2: I understand all of it. What I'm trying to get

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Speaker 2: at here. What I'm wondering is why did that have

641
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 2: to go public? Because that everything changes everything nod in

642
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: pro sports? You know how much we don't know. You

643
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 2: know that as well as anyone I do.

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Speaker 3: I understand that. But when you want ultimate leverage, you

645
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 3: get ultimate leverage. That's that you weaponize the media. And

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Speaker 3: they've been doing that since the dawn of time. That's it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I'm not asking for loyalty, but if somebody

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Speaker 2: gave me what what's uh? What's what's dame made from?

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Speaker 2: From Portland? Uh? Career earnings Damian Lillard one hundred and

650
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Speaker 2: thirty three point seven. Sorry, if I'd like him to maybe,

651
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Speaker 2: I don't know, say thanks on the way out the door.

652
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 2: That's no loyalty. Say thanks. The business doesn't work like that.

653
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,680
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654
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Speaker 2: will say this about your your Los Angeles Lakers there

666
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: a from pretty good week really so pretty good week. Yeah,

667
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 2: it's a pretty good week. They're gonna they're gonna be

668
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 2: an issue for other teams in the Western Conference. I

669
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: I look so far at what I've seen, and you

670
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 2: know me, I do this every single off season. I

671
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 2: don't don't don't win the off season because that seems

672
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 2: to never never work. So I don't get too hot

673
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 2: and bothered about things until I see them. But a

674
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: lot of continuity with with what the Lakers have done.

675
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 2: I do wonder how Lebron feels about it. More on

676
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 2: that in a second. But I look up and down

677
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: the Western Conference. Denver was already the standard, right they

678
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: win the championship. They haven't done a whole lot. They

679
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: lost Jeff Green, but I look around that conference and go, Okay,

680
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: the Lakers I like very much what they've done. The

681
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: Phoenix Suns gave up all of their depth and seemed

682
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: to rebuild it in about an hour and a half,

683
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 2: which was crazy. And they just got Eric Gordon today,

684
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 2: which is another that I like. We'll see where things

685
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: go with the Los Angeles Clippers. I think they are

686
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: a dark horse to end up with Lillard if this

687
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: heat thing doesn't happen, if Portland plays hardball, so I

688
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 2: can see them sort of really being a factor here.

689
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: But those are the teams right now to me that

690
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: have stood out in terms of positioning themselves to make

691
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,439
Speaker 2: a run at Denver next year. Yeah.

692
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 3: I think what the Lakers are doing. They really took

693
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 3: heat and paid attention to what transpired at the trade deadline. Normally,

694
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 3: in this day and age in free agency, when you

695
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 3: have an abundance of cap space, like the Lakers had

696
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 3: you do what they did when they got Westbrook, right,

697
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 3: you want something big, something splashy, and that wasn't needed.

698
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: That wasn't the case.

699
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 3: They needed to build out a roster, they needed to

700
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 3: retain some key uh pieces and elements to the team.

701
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 3: What I think they were able to do and then

702
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 3: they needed to get better in some areas. And so

703
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 3: I'm excited about what they did. I even liked them

704
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 3: bringing back D'Angelo Russell outside of the playoff stint and

705
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 3: him just not showing up in the playoffs. I think

706
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 3: over the course of the year, they're going to need

707
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 3: that firepower from him because he can, you know, put

708
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 3: points up on the board.

709
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: Uh.

710
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 3: And I just I love the addition of Cam cam Reddish.

711
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 3: I think this young man is talented. I think he

712
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 3: needs to be in a in a situation where he

713
00:43:53,200 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 3: feels needed. And uh, look, I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm

714
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 3: more excited that they didn't try to make a big splash.

715
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 3: I think Rob Polenka, Jenny Bust I think they learned

716
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 3: their lesson in doing that, and that's not you have

717
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 3: a big two, that's all you need. You don't need

718
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 3: Like I've been saying those days of the Big three,

719
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 3: That's not what it is. That's not what it is

720
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 3: unless all three of those players can play on both

721
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 3: ends of the court, which is very rare and to

722
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: just very few players who could do that individually, let

723
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 3: alone having three on the team. The Lakers have one

724
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 3: with Anthony Davis. Lebron James is no longer that guy

725
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 3: on the defensive side of the ball, so you need

726
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 3: three and d guys. I think they went out and

727
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 3: they bolstered their team. As far as the Clippers getting Westbrook,

728
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 3: I mean, excuse me, Damian Lillard. I think it'd be

729
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 3: the worst thing that could ever happen for Dame Lillard

730
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 3: because he would go there like most players go to

731
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 3: the Clippers and under the illusion of winning a championship.

732
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 3: It's just not going to happen. So I know he

733
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 3: really wants this, this this Miami thing to work out,

734
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 3: because you don't want to get stuck in that black hole.

735
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: I did forget one other team in the Western Conference

736
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: who I think has has has a scenario that is

737
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 2: building nicely, and that is the Sacramento Kings. Yeah, yeah,

738
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: the Sacramento Kings, who they locked up some bonus. They're

739
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 2: bringing Harrison Barnes back, They're bringing Trey Lyles back. They

740
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: went and got the reigning euro League MVP. His name

741
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 2: is Sasha vezen Kaffin. You can play for those who

742
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 2: don't know, he is going to join the Sacramento Kings,

743
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 2: six foot nine player. They got him for only three

744
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 2: years and twenty million dollars, unproven and and unknown. But

745
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 2: combine all of that with now just the fact that

746
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 2: they've been through it a little bit, right, that to

747
00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 2: me makes them a different entity next year. Yeah. I love.

748
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 3: The fact that you when you're a young team and

749
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 3: you've had success, you got to keep the core together.

750
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 3: You have to well, look what Golden State did, right,

751
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 3: You have to build on that, and you time to time,

752
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 3: you add pieces to get better, to get better, to

753
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 3: get better. Sacramento is following that formula because it works.

754
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 3: They were a game away, you know, there were a

755
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 3: game away, a couple possessions away from moving on and

756
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 3: getting beat by the Lakers in the playoffs.

757
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 2: Well, I got more questions. I'm not done with them.

758
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 2: I'm not done with them. Let's talk about the two

759
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 2: biggest brands in the Western Conference for a second. You

760
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: notice that of all those things I mentioned, you know

761
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: who I didn't mention. I didn't mention the Golden State Warriors,

762
00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 2: who at this point have re signed Draymond Green yeah,

763
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 2: and give him a bed, did that well. And they

764
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 2: did it exactly the way that I've been saying for

765
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 2: weeks that they would do it. And a lot of

766
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 2: my brethren in the Bay Area did not believe me

767
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 2: because they thought that it meant Draymond taking a pay cut,

768
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 2: and I kept trying to explain to them, I'm like,

769
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 2: if he opts out of twenty seven million dollars and

770
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 2: ends up making twenty two or twenty three in year one,

771
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 2: that's not a pay cut. If it means another guaranteed

772
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars, it means he gave up twenty

773
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 2: seven and got one hundred. It doesn't mean he gave

774
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: up twenty seven and took twenty three. That's simply the

775
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 2: structure of the deal. It saves the Warriors over forty

776
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 2: million dollars on this year's cap when you add in

777
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,959
Speaker 2: the luxury tax. So he took the deal exactly as

778
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: I figured he would take it. And I am a big,

779
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 2: big proponent of the Warriors focusing on the Big three

780
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: and keeping them together, and that's what they did. But

781
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: there are a couple of things that I would find

782
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: head scratching slash concerning for the Warriors, which is a

783
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 2: couple of their free agent veteran minimum targets are choosing elsewhere.

784
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 2: Eric Gordon is one of them. I also believe, as

785
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 2: much as the Warriors are going to sell to us

786
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 2: that Chris Paul is exactly who they wanted because he's

787
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: only got one year left on his deal and that's

788
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 2: what they needed for financial flexibility. Plus he is a

789
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 2: smart veteran guard who won't turn the ball over. I

790
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: only buy it to an extent. I think it also

791
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 2: means they went shopping with Jordan Poole and nobody wanted him. Nope,

792
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 2: that's what I think. Nobody wanted him, and that speaks

793
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 2: volumes about who he was as a player, what was

794
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 2: going on behind the scenes, all of that what we've

795
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 2: seen from him now two playoffs in a row. I

796
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: know he's had some good moments, but there been way

797
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 2: too many bad and so that that is a major

798
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 2: concern for the Warriors as well. I I like it's

799
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 2: hard to figure when you look at them right now. Now,

800
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 2: more moves could come and this would be the Other

801
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: concern is that Dario Sarich has supposedly been on the

802
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 2: one inch line for a free agent deal with the Warriors,

803
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 2: which I think would help them a lot, and it's

804
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 2: been sitting there for forty eight hours, like, what's the

805
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 2: hold up? What's going on? I think that they're gonna

806
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 2: be fine. I think they're gonna have a hard time

807
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: being markedly better than they were last year. If they are,

808
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 2: it means Jordan pool was even worse behind the scenes

809
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 2: than we realized.

810
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just wasn't a good fit.

811
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: Now.

812
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 3: Jordan Poole has talent. We saw that, you know two

813
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 3: years ago when they won the championship. He has talent,

814
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 3: But talent within the system is a completely different thing,

815
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 3: and it didn't work in that system. That system has

816
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 3: been together for a long time. They work in a

817
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 3: certain way, and that's just not who he was.

818
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 2: Now.

819
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 3: That doesn't take away from his talent. And he'll probably

820
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,959
Speaker 3: go to Washington and to be amazing, He's gonna score

821
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 3: a bunch of points and you know, all of those things.

822
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 3: But I mean, they don't have a system now. They'll

823
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 3: be him and Kyle Kuzma putting up thirty shots a game,

824
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 3: and that's fine. He'll make a bunch of money and

825
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 3: he'll play. He's got a championship already as a young player,

826
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 3: so everything now is just icing on the cake, is

827
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 3: just stacking those chips and so. And that'll be the

828
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 3: type of player he is. He'll get older, he'll have

829
00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 3: a better understanding of the league, teammates, locker room mystery

830
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 3: as he gets older, and you know he'll he'll turn

831
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 3: out to be an okay player. It just at the

832
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 3: time did not work in that locker room.

833
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 2: Well, something changed, something changed, and I fear the only

834
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 2: thing that as an outsider, that I can guess that

835
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 2: changed was money. Because Jordan Poole is a guy that

836
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: will forever impress me because he went from the G

837
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 2: League to one hundred and thirty million dollars and I

838
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 2: will never, ever, ever not be impressed by that kind

839
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: of work ethic. Jordan had incredible work ethic and that

840
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 2: is well documented with the Warriors. And he built himself

841
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 2: last season, not this one that just passed, but the

842
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 2: championship year. He built himself into someone who was dynamic,

843
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 2: who could sort of hold things together when other guys

844
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 2: were either hurt or doing loadman management or whatever. And

845
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 2: then his contributions in the playoffs were more good than bad.

846
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 2: And there's a famous here in the Bay Area. There's

847
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 2: kind of a famous video because he and Andrew Wiggins

848
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 2: are real tight, and they were both obviously going into

849
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 2: into contracts that were into their final year. And as

850
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 2: they won the championship, like news cameras get him and

851
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 2: they're kind of embracing one another, and they're jumping up

852
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 2: and down and they're smiling, and they're both like Jordan

853
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 2: is going, we're going to get a bag. We're going

854
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: to get a bag. And Wiggins, with his personality, is

855
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 2: just kind of like smiling, like yeah, like I've already

856
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 2: had a bag, but yeah, let's have another one. And

857
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 2: and so he's just chilling and it's this famous quote,

858
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 2: We're gonna get a bag. And he did, and he

859
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:52,280
Speaker 2: deserves it. He earned the bag. But from the moment

860
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 2: that happened, something wasn't right between him and almost everybody

861
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 2: else in that life locker room. And one thing I

862
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 2: keep stressing that famous punch from Draymond Green that was

863
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 2: not the start that everybody goes, oh, well, then the

864
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 2: punch and then the relationship went south. No, no, no,

865
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 2: something was already wrong. Something was already wrong, which is

866
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 2: why Draymond got so upset to the point where he

867
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 2: would do something so stupid. But that relationship had already

868
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 2: soured between Jordan and the veterans and uh and and

869
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 2: that's a big part of why they couldn't get it

870
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 2: back together. They couldn't get on the same page. And

871
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: I think that that bag had Jordan feel in a

872
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 2: certain kind of way about him, about him and his

873
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 2: role going forward, which is really, you know this, how

874
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 2: do you how do you demand a role when you're

875
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 2: in the room with a bunch of future Hall of famers?

876
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 3: Don't work like that? And sometimes you gotta be humbled. Yeah,

877
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 3: they gave him the bag.

878
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 2: But.

879
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 3: There are other things to lose. The money's the money

880
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 3: right now, hopefully this is a learning moment for him,

881
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 3: right because money doesn't make you a great player, just

882
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 3: makes you a well paid player. Money doesn't make you

883
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 3: a great teammate. It just makes you able to buy

884
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 3: a nicer car. Right, So, in order to stay in

885
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 3: professional sports, there are certain things that come with it,

886
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 3: and we're not questioning his talent, but you know, talented

887
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 3: people are in and out of the league all the time.

888
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 3: It's what do you bring to a team? Can you

889
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 3: be that teammate? Can you help build something? Obviously Jordan

890
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 3: Poole wasn't in a position to do that. Don't want

891
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 3: to use him as a scapegoal. The Warriors had other issues, right,

892
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 3: They had no depth. Their younger guys outside of Jordan

893
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 3: Poole didn't develop like they thought they would. They got

894
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 3: rid of wise men, they had other things that they

895
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 3: were dealing with, trying to stay healthy. It just wasn't

896
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 3: their year, and it just was exacerbated by the punch

897
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 3: and then I mean they was the worst team ever

898
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 3: on the road in the NBA.

899
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 2: Yep. That wasn't Jordan Poole's fault. Well, I mean, so,

900
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 2: you know, not his fault, but I think it was

901
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 2: emblematic of what was going on surrounding him, Like, why

902
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 2: would a really talented team not do well on the road. Well,

903
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 2: on the road is where y'all bond and where that

904
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: shows itself when you don't have your bands to juicy out.

905
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 3: That's true, but historically younger players struggle on the road.

906
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 2: YEP.

907
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 3: So to throw that level of we need you guys

908
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 3: to be great up, it doesn't happen historically, that doesn't happen, right,

909
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 3: And so we can't point to their younger players and

910
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 3: be like we need no you get that as you

911
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,720
Speaker 3: get older in the league. We can't have a bunch

912
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 3: of second year players leading our third year plays leading

913
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 3: us to the promised land on the road.

914
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. It just doesn't work like that, all right.

915
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 2: With what the Lakers accomplished this week, you're pleased, you

916
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 2: said you think Rob Polenka and Jenny bust learned their lesson.

917
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 2: I wonder what Lebron thinks about what happened this week.

918
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 2: We'll get into that coming up next with me from

919
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 2: salam Mark Willard. This is Fox Sports Radio, all right.

920
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,640
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925
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 2: So Ephraim is happy. E from is Laker happy. So

926
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 2: that's good. Check that box green check. You think Lebron's happy,

927
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 2: I do you do? I do think he's happy. It's

928
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 2: interesting because I certainly read the press conference where retirement

929
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 2: was not threatened but insinuated. For sure, I read that

930
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 2: to mean you got to go do something else large.

931
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 2: You got to go, whether it's Kyrie something like that,

932
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 2: you got to go get me one more big time player.

933
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,919
Speaker 2: And what the Lakers did, I will agree with you,

934
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 2: is the smart thing. It was the right thing. I

935
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 2: like what they did for them and for the future

936
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 2: as well, but I did wonder I can't feel like

937
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 2: that's what Lebron was trying to do.

938
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 3: I think at this point those days of dictating the

939
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 3: Russell Westbrook move was Lebron's for the Lakers. Was Lebron's

940
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 3: last thing that he was able. He's going to be

941
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 3: able to orchestrate for the roster. And you got to

942
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 3: remember remember last year when they realized this wasn't working,

943
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 3: Lebron was adamant about trading and making a change. And

944
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 3: what did Jenny bust and Rob Lincoln say. They came

945
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 3: out and said, you wanted it, you fix it. And

946
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 3: then that next year is when we met. You know this,

947
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 3: this season this past season where they made the trade

948
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 3: to move on and move further. But last year they

949
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 3: weren't going to bail them out, and I think that

950
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:10,479
Speaker 3: was it that it shifted to what's best for the team.

951
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 3: How can we put the best team together, not the

952
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 3: best players or individuals. We need to put the best

953
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 3: team together. We need to address certain things that we

954
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 3: need to get better. And that's what they did, and

955
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 3: I think that is the formula they're going to use

956
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 3: moving forward, at least with Lebron James there.

957
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, again, I congratulate, like it's not been often in

958
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 2: the history of Lebron james career that teams have not

959
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 2: done basically exactly what he demanded. The last team did

960
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 2: not do exactly what he demanded was the Cleveland Cavaliers,

961
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 2: and he left and Dan Gilbert wrote a letter and

962
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 2: ended up with egg on his face and all of

963
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 2: that stuff, and then they made up, sort of, they

964
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 2: made it up enough because Lebron wanted to go back

965
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 2: and win a title for Cleveland, and as soon as

966
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 2: he did, he's like, my job is done here and

967
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 2: you're probably never going to see me again. And now

968
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 2: he's thinking much more about his own family his own

969
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 2: post basketball career, all of that stuff. But if Lebron

970
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 2: James and the way we know he thinks, if he

971
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 2: is actually still in this for anything other than getting

972
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 2: to play with Bronni someday, then he wanted more, then

973
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 2: let's bring everybody back and add Cam Reddish. He wanted

974
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 2: more than that aphram.

975
01:00:55,320 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but once again, you don't get it to dictate

976
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 3: that anymore. And I think they've been clear with him

977
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 3: right whether he wanted it or not, it's going to

978
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 3: help the team. It's going to help him when he

979
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 3: doesn't have to drag the team up and down the

980
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:20,919
Speaker 3: court for a whole season. That depth, that ability to

981
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 3: make shots. We know he wanted Austin Reevez back, We

982
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 3: know he wanted Rory Hashimora back. He got those things.

983
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 3: I don't think having Kyrie Irving in the mix would

984
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 3: benefit the team. Kyrie's a great player, dynamic player. But

985
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 3: did the did they have bringing those two guys back

986
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 3: at fifty two and fifty six million dollars? Did they

987
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 3: have one hundred and would Kyri get one hundred and

988
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 3: twenty seven million dollars to give the Kyrie Irving?

989
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 2: Oh brother, I'm a listen I'm with you. I'm with you.

990
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 2: I just know the way Lebron thinks. Yeah. Well, and

991
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 2: Lebron doesn't care that he's thirty eight or thirty nine

992
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 2: years old. He doesn't think that way. He doesn't think

993
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 2: that way. One of them do. Well.

994
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 3: I can tell you he knows what being tired is.

995
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 3: Watching him in these playoffs exhausted. Yep, for the first

996
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 3: time we've ever seen Lebron James flat out exhausted on

997
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 3: the court.

998
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 2: So do you feel like with these moves he feels

999
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 2: like he can lay off the gas a little bit more?

1000
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 3: I think he can can serve himself. Right, if Anthony

1001
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 3: Davis can somehow decide, Hey, in year what is it

1002
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 3: fifteen for him, I'm gonna come in and be in shape.

1003
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 2: That's a big old f right, Hey, I think.

1004
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 3: I'm be in shape and get my body together, So

1005
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 3: I can you.

1006
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 2: Know that's I mean, that's kind of the point. A

1007
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 2: lot of money, man, That's that's kind of the point.

1008
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 2: That's kind of the point.

1009
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 3: Hard to drive your wrath, hard to drive your Raithe

1010
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 3: to to the gym every day.

1011
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 2: The Lakers might have done some nice things, but they

1012
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 2: are still the same team that they were last year

1013
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 2: with regard to winning it all, and that is better

1014
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 2: be healthy. We need to Anthony better be engaged and

1015
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 2: Anthony better not decide to play h play well on

1016
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 2: more than just odd numbered games. We need it. We

1017
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 2: need another big.

1018
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 3: That's the last thing that they got to do to

1019
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 3: really round out this this uh this roster. We we

1020
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 3: need another big. We need to go get Dwight Howard

1021
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 3: back from Taiwan. I don't know what's going on over there.

1022
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 2: Oh God, you know what we need? Uh we need

1023
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 2: Steve That's what I think we need. I think uh,

1024
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 2: I think we need Stasty Figer, and I think we

1025
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 2: need to find out what's trending right now.

1026
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 5: Hello again, gentlemen. NASCAR Street Race in Chicago, after all

1027
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 5: the rain there this weekend was completed tonight and the

1028
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 5: guy who won it in his Cup debut, Shane then

1029
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 5: Gisbergen Okay Justin Haley finished second, Chase Elliott finished third.

1030
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 5: About to start Mexico's Bucker at the forty nine Ers

1031
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 5: Stadium large crowd tonight on FS one as a Gold

1032
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 5: Cup tournament concluding the group stage. Now Mexico against Katar tonight.

1033
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 5: US has just won in Charlotte six nothing over Trinidad

1034
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 5: Jesus Ferrara of FC Dallas three goals in the first half.

1035
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 5: The Americans quarterfinal will be in Cincinnati next Sunday, Jamaica.

1036
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 5: Earlier in Santa Clara, a five nothing winner over last

1037
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 5: place Saint Kitts. Ricky Fowler won the PGA tournament in

1038
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 5: Detroit in a playoff. Colin Morricawa tied for second place.

1039
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 5: In Spain, the Libgolf event went to Taylor Gooch. Bernard

1040
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 5: Longer won the US Senior Open and tennis Wimbledon starts tomorrow.

1041
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 5: Nick Carrios withdrew with a wrist injury. Nicks guard Josh

1042
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 5: Hart committed to Team USA for this summer, so that's

1043
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 5: the final roster spot for the Basketball World Cup team.

1044
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 5: NBA Rookie of the Year Polo Benkerra will reportedly play

1045
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 5: for the US, in other words, not for Italy. Also

1046
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 5: committing to this year's Team USA Defensive Player of the

1047
01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 5: Year Jaron Jackson and All Stars Anthony Edwards and Tyree Halliburton.

1048
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 5: We haven't had a formal announcement yet on the roster

1049
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 5: from Grant Hill. He is managing director for the US Men,

1050
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 5: but also due to play All Rookie Walker, Kessler, Brandon

1051
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 5: ingram mcal Bridges, Austin Reeves due to play for the

1052
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 5: Americans this summer. Bobby Portis, Jalen Brunson, and Cam Johnson.

1053
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 5: The Utah Jazz are giving Jordan Clarkson a new three

1054
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 5: year deal worth fifty five million dollars. The Phoenix Sun

1055
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 5: signed Eric Gordon one year plus a player option. The

1056
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 5: Nets gave Lonnie Walker a one year contract. He averaged

1057
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 5: twelve points a game for the Lakers this past season.

1058
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 5: To Major League Baseball, two games going on tonight after

1059
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 5: all the rain in Chicago not yet done. Guardians holding

1060
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 5: on six ' five over the Cubs in the bottom

1061
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 5: of the ninth. The Mets leads big and a holding

1062
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 5: on is now five to four against the Giants in the.

1063
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 2: Top of the seventh.

1064
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 5: Shohyotani did homer in Anaheim today five to two. The

1065
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 5: Angels beat Arizona and all star Zach Gallon, who had

1066
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 5: been ten and two this year. He went seven innings

1067
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 5: with twelve strike but for Otani his thirty first home run,

1068
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 5: a guy who had fifteen in June. He's up to

1069
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 5: sixty eight RBIs were just past the halfway point of

1070
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 5: the season, White Sox held on eight to seven at Oakland,

1071
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 5: so the A's record now twenty three and sixty three.

1072
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 5: Detroit was a fourteen to nine winner at Colorado. While

1073
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 5: the A's are the worst overall, Colorado is the worst

1074
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 5: team in the National League thirty three and fifty three.

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01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 5: Seattle beat Tampa Bay seven to six. Rais pitcher Shane McClanahan,

1076
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 5: who's eleven and one, was selected as an All Star today,

1077
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 5: but he went on the injured list yesterday with back tightness,

1078
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 5: and we mentioned last hour. Pete, a Lonzo slugger for

1079
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Speaker 5: the Mets, says he will be in the home Run

1080
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 5: Derby along with Julio Rodriguez, who plays for Seattle, and

1081
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 5: All Star Week in Seattle this year. A last add

1082
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 5: on USA basketball we've mentioned this before, Steve Kerr of

1083
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 5: Golden State is The US Head Coach Tournament gets underway

1084
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 5: in late August in Asia. Team USA is going to

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01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 5: play in Manila. The assistants Toron Lieu of the Clippers,

1086
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 5: Mark Few from Gonzaga, and the other assistant for Kurrs,

1087
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 5: Eric Spolster at the Heat. His mom is from the Philippines.

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01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 5: The US will be playing New Zealand, Greece and then

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Speaker 5: the country of Jordan in its group.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, all right, good sob Steve appreciate that

1091
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 2: so much. Austin Reeves, by the way, not just a

1092
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 2: new deal with the Lakers, but he's on that team.

1093
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, it's a hell of a rise for

1094
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 2: that guy. What a find. It's a huge fine.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 2: What do you get fifty six million?

1097
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, fella, a man, get your money, baby.

1098
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 2: You know he deserved it.

1099
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 3: Worked extremely hard, played extremely well, really good.

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Speaker 2: I got a quick question for you, which I'll ask

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01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,480
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Speaker 2: going on with San Diego State? Man? I mean I

1108
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 2: didn't now you know, conference realignment college football. I'm sure

1109
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 2: most of the people around the country are not even

1110
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 2: aware of this little sort of idiosyncrasy that just kind

1111
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 2: of took place. But a few weeks ago, SDSUS like,

1112
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 2: peace out mouth the West right, And I'm sitting here,

1113
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 2: especially since you know, I kind of get employed year

1114
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 2: to year by PAC twelve network. I'm like, okay, okay,

1115
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 2: San Diego State's coming. We're gonna get yourself a little

1116
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 2: media rights deal. PAC twelve is gonna live on celater

1117
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 2: USC UCLA. It's all gonna be okay. And then all

1118
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 2: of a sudden, out of nowhere, just little whisper a

1119
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 2: couple of days ago. Yeah, actually, we're just gonna stay

1120
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:50,719
Speaker 2: in the Mount West for a little while. What's going on? Man?

1121
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 2: I know, you know people what is going on?

1122
01:08:55,200 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 3: The PAC twelve couldn't figure it out. They're main focus

1123
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 3: is negotiating a TV deal or finding the right one.

1124
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 3: Uh So, without a commitment to San Diego State, San

1125
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 3: Diego State decided to stay in the Mounta West for

1126
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 3: at least another two years. Also cuts down their exit

1127
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 3: fee from thirty two million to sixteen million or something

1128
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 3: like that. So they were like, hey, we're just gonna

1129
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 3: stand in the Mount West. We're gonna dominate this again

1130
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 3: at least for the next two years, and then we'll

1131
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 3: see what happens.

1132
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 2: So in other words, you think it's still happening, and

1133
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 2: it's just happening in two years. It'll happen later. Yeah,

1134
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 2: because USC and UCLA still got one more year anyway.

1135
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gone, They're gonna be there, they'll be going,

1136
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:46,640
Speaker 3: but they got one more one more, Yes, they have

1137
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 3: one more, one more year in the Black twelve.

1138
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 2: So San Diego State like maybe they're just like maybe

1139
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 2: that'd be the Pac ten for one year. Yeah, and

1140
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:57,640
Speaker 2: then San Diego State joined that.

1141
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 3: Yep, san Diego State and uh, you know somebody else, brother,

1142
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 3: what a mess? Man, it is a mess. Can we

1143
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 3: just stop?

1144
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 2: Can we go do what I asked everybody to do

1145
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 2: five years ago. It's really simple, man, it's simple. Like

1146
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 2: tradition is gone, right, it's gone. Okay, So why universities

1147
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 2: are we still handing money out to quote unquote conferences

1148
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 2: which are really just holding companies at this hour? Like,

1149
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 2: who cares if you call it the Big ten, the

1150
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:45,560
Speaker 2: Big twelve, the pack whatever, I know, the SEC, oh

1151
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:53,639
Speaker 2: SEC great, whatever, call it Conference one, Conference two, Conference three,

1152
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 2: and Conference four for super conferences sixteen teams in each one.

1153
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,719
Speaker 2: That equals sixty four teams each of those four super

1154
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 2: conferences have two divisions. That's eight divisions in major college football?

1155
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 2: Do you follow me here? Eight division champions poof eight

1156
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 2: team playoff? Is this so hard? That way? We don't

1157
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,480
Speaker 2: need to have people in a room at the end fighting.

1158
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 2: Oh but Alabama lost to tennis? Say with tennis? Oh

1159
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 2: my gosh, shut up, stop deciding in a ballroom who

1160
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 2: gets to play? Give me eight divisions and let's go.

1161
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 2: Why is it so hard?

1162
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:41,440
Speaker 3: Because people want control?

1163
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 2: The schools can have it. Want control.

1164
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 3: People they want to they want Look, man, it's hard

1165
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 3: to give up something that you feel you control, and

1166
01:11:58,280 --> 01:11:59,799
Speaker 3: people will making a lot of money.

1167
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I guess my point is is I like

1168
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 2: the schools need Kirk Cousins to talk to them. Y'all

1169
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:09,679
Speaker 2: have power. You don't realize you have. Go in there

1170
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:15,560
Speaker 2: and demand a fully guaranteed deal. You don't need these conferences.

1171
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 2: They don't exist anymore anyway. No, it's all over the

1172
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 2: place right. Oh but the Pac ten and the Big

1173
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 2: ten and the Rose Bowl. Yeah means what now you're

1174
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 2: gonna have USC and UCLA representing the other side in

1175
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl. UCLA is gonna play Oregon or something

1176
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 2: like that. Like I mean it's over. It's over, So

1177
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 2: forget tradition and forget sharing the dough. I think it's

1178
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 2: so funny. In the name of selfishness and greed, I

1179
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 2: think college football is actually selling itself short. They want

1180
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 2: to keep it the same way because of money, and

1181
01:12:56,520 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, you could earn more. That would be the

1182
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 2: greatest event of I mean, that would rival the NFL playoffs.

1183
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 2: If you actually had a real eight team playoff where

1184
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 2: all eight teams earned their way there.

1185
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 6: That'd be nice. But that's too easy, man, I know.

1186
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 6: Never never do it easy. Do that, No, never do it?

1187
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 2: All right, coming up at the top of the hour,

1188
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 2: the Baseball All Star teams were announced today, and I

1189
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 2: got a question and a comment with regard to something

1190
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 2: All Star related we'll do at the top of the hour.

1191
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 2: But also coming up next, these gambling violations that are

1192
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 2: growing in the NFL. Why suddenly now gambling's not new?

1193
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 2: We'll get into that. Coming up next with eat from

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01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 2: Salam Mark Willard It's Fox Sports Radio. All right, it's

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday. Mark Willard e from

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Speaker 2: Salaam Live tire Raq dot Com Studios as mentioned a

1197
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 2: little something about the Baseball All Star Game. I want

1198
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,679
Speaker 2: to get into with you coming up at the top

1199
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Speaker 2: of the hour. But another slew no big names, but

1200
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 2: I hate to diminish players in the NFL that you

1201
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 2: know are not like quarterbacks or running backs or wide

1202
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 2: receivers or whatnot. They're all important to their team. But

1203
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 2: another slew of gambling suspensions in the NFL. What do

1204
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 2: you think in general of these and why they are

1205
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 2: suddenly growing in prevalence even though we should be. It's

1206
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 2: sort of counterintuitive, right, I mean, now the NFL does

1207
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 2: not think it's taboo to be in bed with gambling outlets,

1208
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 2: but only now suddenly are all of these suspensions taking place.

1209
01:14:51,800 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a cluster cluster beep, because this is exact

1210
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 3: why most the NBA, NFL, MLB stayed away from sports

1211
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:15,759
Speaker 3: booking and promoting of that because it's bound to happen.

1212
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 3: It's bound to happen. So now you're preaching you can't

1213
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:29,639
Speaker 3: gamble on certain things in certain places, but we're going

1214
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 3: to share this revenue check from those things, whether it

1215
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:40,799
Speaker 3: be a sports book and app whatever, that is revenue

1216
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 3: from the you know, the games. It's crazy, man, and

1217
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 3: it's easier and easy. You don't have to call anyone

1218
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 3: to place a bet. Now, you don't have to physically

1219
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:57,520
Speaker 3: go anywhere to place the bet. It's on your phone.

1220
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 3: You can literally just sign it into an app like

1221
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 3: you do Facebook or TikTok, Instagram, and place of bet

1222
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 3: take less than two minutes. So to tell people to

1223
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 3: stop doing that, that's gonna be hard to do. First

1224
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 3: of all, gambling is an addiction. Okay, let's not forget that.

1225
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 3: You get addicted to the rush of winning, possibly winning.

1226
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 3: I used to play black jack a lot, really good

1227
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 3: blackjack player, and I'm very competitive. So as a younger player,

1228
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 3: I had disposable income, no responsibilities, no marriage, no kids.

1229
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 3: In every buye weekend I go to we go to

1230
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 3: Vegas and I've won big and I've lost, and I

1231
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 3: started to realize I'm too competitive to continue to gamble

1232
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 3: like this. It's never a good thing. When you're competitive,

1233
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 3: nature outweighs your brain. So I let it go. I

1234
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:26,599
Speaker 3: let it go, And they're making it easier and easier

1235
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 3: to do that now, whether it be I never bet

1236
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 3: on games or anything like that. Never was a big

1237
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 3: you know, betting on I bet on myself at the

1238
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 3: blackjack tables, even though there's a level of uncertainty there.

1239
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 3: I'm just not sitting watching. I'm actively participating in my demise.

1240
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 3: So I just think it's very hypocritical to just come

1241
01:17:53,640 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 3: down and slam the gavel down on these guys. Very new,

1242
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 3: and it's going to it's this serious growing pains. When

1243
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 3: you walked into an NFL locker room, it used to

1244
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 3: be huge signs plastered on the door, inside the door,

1245
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 3: no gambling, no, all of that. Now it's like, no

1246
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 3: gambling here, right right, don't stand right here, right, can't

1247
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 3: gamble stand.

1248
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 2: Over there, go across the street and you're fine. Can't

1249
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 2: gamble in here.

1250
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 3: But at lunch you can get in your car and

1251
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 3: drive outside the facility and gambled and come back.

1252
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 2: What are we doing? What do we do? What do

1253
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:43,640
Speaker 2: we do? Come on? Like, I fully understand, and I

1254
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 2: know this is where many people's brains go. The rules

1255
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:53,680
Speaker 2: are the rules, they're told the rules, follow the rules.

1256
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 2: That's great, and there is some validity to that. However,

1257
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 2: you're gonna have a hard time pitching to me that

1258
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 2: the punishment fits the crime.

1259
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, there at the stage of early punishment of

1260
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 3: setting examples, that's why they're harsh like this, They're they're

1261
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 3: they're the example setting phase to ward off others. Well,

1262
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 3: you don't want to get what they got right that

1263
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 3: that's why it's like it is now. And you know,

1264
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 3: I get it as an organization, as a business trying

1265
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 3: to stay on top of something, but it's gonna be

1266
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 3: difficult because there's gambling happening in every locker room, on

1267
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 3: every plane, on every bus, at every hotel, on every.

1268
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 2: This is that's right, and this has always been known.

1269
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:00,560
Speaker 2: I mean, even if you're gambling with just cards or

1270
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 2: or or whatever it is. Major League Baseball's taking a

1271
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 2: little bit of a gamble with the way they're building

1272
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 2: their All Star game. Explain that next.

1273
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1277
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Speaker 2: One of those weekends where it all starts to come

1278
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Speaker 2: together as we get ready to celebrate America's Birthday. A

1279
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 2: month away from NFL training camps, NBA free agency has

1280
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 2: the rosters coming into place. The All Star rosters are

1281
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 2: in place in Major League Baseball, and we've got it

1282
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Speaker 2: I know that you're more of a baseball guy, kind

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Speaker 2: of through your kid, kids and the coach, that you

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Speaker 2: are at their level, then maybe you are at the

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Speaker 2: major league level. But I will ask you, like, is

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Speaker 2: there a major league team that you call your own?

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Speaker 3: I would have to go with the Dodgers, Okay.

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Speaker 2: All right, So you don't have to worry about this

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01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 2: rule because you follow the Dodgers and there's always a

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01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:23,879
Speaker 2: gaggle of them going to the All Star Game. Freeman

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Speaker 2: is in, Betts is in, Kershaw is in, will Smith

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01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 2: is in. They're all going. So everything's cool there. What

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Speaker 2: about if you were a fan of one of these

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Speaker 2: teams that had to be part of quote unquote the rule,

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01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 2: which is every team needs to be represented at the

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Speaker 2: All Star Game. Now, in theory, I've never really had

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01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 2: much of an issue with this. In my forty some

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01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 2: odd years as a fan of the game, because I

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01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 2: am a believer in including all parts of the geography

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01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:03,879
Speaker 2: when put together an event. An example, the college Football

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01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 2: Playoff too often has become a regional Southeastern event in

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Speaker 2: the United States, and that's not good. That's not good

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Speaker 2: for viewership. I'm not saying somebody should get advantages for

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Speaker 2: being outside the Southeast, but that's sort of what I

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01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 2: was getting at earlier with regard to geographic super conferences,

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01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 2: and then you would automatically have teams coming from every

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Speaker 2: corner of the country in order to play. That's kind

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Speaker 2: of what I was getting at there. This is different.

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Speaker 2: This is an all Star game and for the I

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01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 2: don't know how many years in a row, and I

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01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:48,560
Speaker 2: apologize for selecting them. They're just the one that's closest

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01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 2: to me. That's an example. But again, the Oakland A's

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01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:59,879
Speaker 2: will be sending a player that absolutely no one outside

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01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 2: of his parents, a few A's fans, god forbid, definitely

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01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 2: not the A's owner has even heard of this player.

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01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean he's not good, I get it. He

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01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 2: is already at a disadvantage because he plays for the

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Speaker 2: Oakland A's, or the Twins, the Pirates, even the Rays

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01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 2: a good team, the Orioles. I know that's a bigger market.

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Speaker 2: I'm just throwing out teams that don't have your standard

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01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 2: bearing star players and they don't have those brands you

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01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 2: were talking about earlier. This has gotten to the point though,

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Speaker 2: where I find this to be very, very counterproductive. You

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01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 2: keep putting players on because you have to have a

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Speaker 2: representative from other team, from every team, that keeps other

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01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 2: deserving players out. And I also thinking from it rewards

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Speaker 2: what those teams are doing which shouldn't do, which is

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01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 2: tank and save money. Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't agree with putting players in just because I

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01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 3: think when you're voted to the All Star Game, it

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Speaker 3: should be because of your body of work that season,

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Speaker 3: not because you got to send someone. Uh. That is

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Speaker 3: the opposite of what an All Star is and should be.

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01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 3: People's value increase from being All Stars because of the

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01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 3: work they've done on the pitch, the field, the court.

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Speaker 3: So when you take that away and you just send somebody,

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Speaker 3: because each team has to have somebody, you know, a representative,

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01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 3: you're right, you take away from other deserving people from

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Speaker 3: other teams. Another thing that I don't understand why Baseball

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01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 3: does with their All Star Game. I believe it's the

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01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:15,640
Speaker 3: only I'm not sure about hockey, but most of the

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01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 3: major American sports have their All Star weekends, so weekend

1348
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:28,639
Speaker 3: people can travel, they can plan, and they can go, right,

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01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 3: make a big weekend out of it. Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Well,

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01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 3: baseball it's on a weekday, Monday and Tuesday. Who is what?

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Speaker 2: How? What sens does that make? Who's cool?

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01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 3: So I don't get it, like things like that to

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01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 3: me is a head scratch, And somebody probably can tell me, well,

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01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 3: you know, it's tradition and it's what. To have an

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01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 3: All Star Game, an All Star Challenge during the week,

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01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 3: you can't make that make sense, right, because if you

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01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 3: were to have it in Vegas, people would or wherever

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01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 3: it is this year, you would plan for that during

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01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 3: people work doing the week day, so work day they

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Speaker 3: have the festivities on two work days.

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Speaker 2: The whole thing has been extended as well. It used

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01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 2: to be that the All Star break was three days, okay,

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Speaker 2: and I get that it doesn't sound all that RESTful,

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01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 2: but teams would finish playing on a Sunday and then

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Speaker 2: on Monday. Everybody would get on either Sunday night or

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Speaker 2: Monday morning, get those players to where they need to be,

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01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 2: and then on Monday night would be your Derby and

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01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 2: all of that stuff, and then on Tuesday would be

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01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 2: the All Star Game, and on Wednesday was a complete

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01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 2: day off for everybody. It's the worst day of sports

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Speaker 2: all year long. It is literally there's nothing that happens

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Speaker 2: on day three of the All Star break. Somehow this

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01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 2: has turned into an extra day for almost all of

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Speaker 2: the teams, and there's now like a Thursday off as well,

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01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 2: and everybody needs to get to where they are in

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01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 2: order for Friday to be the resumption of the season.

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of with you, why don't you have the

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01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 2: Derby on a Saturday, the game on a Sunday, take

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01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 2: a Monday off, and have everybody in place for Tuesday

1380
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:30,799
Speaker 2: night baseball as you normally do, a Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday

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01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:34,680
Speaker 2: series somewhere, a Friday Saturday Sunday series somewhere else. The

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01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 2: calendar works like I can think this out as you

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01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:42,920
Speaker 2: can logically and figure out why this is though it's

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01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 2: got to be run by the television networks. It has

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01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:49,719
Speaker 2: to be. It has to be, and that's probably part

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01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 2: of it. But what do you can get this time

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01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 2: on the week. Yeah, but on a home run Derby,

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Speaker 2: that means you're on a Saturday night. That's literally like,

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01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 2: that's the worst night of the week for TV, So

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01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 2: the worst side of the week for TV. So they

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Speaker 2: want that Derby out of Monday night. People come home

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01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 2: from work, cook your dinner, watch Derby. Yes, that part

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01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 2: of it is, right, part of it is, but part

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01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 2: of it is the sport. You know. Football doesn't need

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01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 2: to worry about that because in the fall, we're like

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01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 2: all set Saturday Sunday, pajamas, nachos, beer, We're ready. That's

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01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 2: not baseball.

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Speaker 3: Hey, somebody needs an overhaul. Man, There's nobody in there like, Hey, guys,

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01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 3: let's rethink this. Let's make it a thing. Let's build

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01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:46,480
Speaker 3: a dynamic weekend around this. Let's have a concert festival.

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01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 3: Let's make it fun and cool so the people who

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01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 3: do work during the week can actually fly out and

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01:28:55,360 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 3: participate without taking days off work. How about that? To me,

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01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 3: that would would seem like a better idea.

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01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 2: It just would. I want to throw some names at

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01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 2: you of all Stars, and you tell me if you

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01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:26,639
Speaker 2: know what baseball team they're on. I'm just gonna throw

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01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 2: out some names okay, Alexis Diaz, No, okay, let's see

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01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:47,639
Speaker 2: Mitch Keller mm hmm, okay, let's see. Let's see who

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01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 2: else can we come up with here? For Ephraim? How

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01:29:52,479 --> 01:30:04,440
Speaker 2: about uh yeah, you'll know all those. How about Felix Bautista.

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01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 3: Is he related to David Bautista?

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01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:21,559
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. How about Brent Rooker? Rooker?

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01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:24,680
Speaker 2: Brent Rooker is the infielder who is going for the

1415
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:28,000
Speaker 2: Oakland A's. These are all fantastic baseball players. By the way,

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01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 2: they're all Stars. They're on the All Star team. Some

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01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 2: of them are All Stars because of the uniform they wear,

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01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 2: and they have to go. So on a Tuesday night,

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01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:49,800
Speaker 2: I'm going to gather the kids around. It's Tuesday, so

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01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 2: we'll make some tacos and we're going to say, kids,

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01:30:55,439 --> 01:31:04,639
Speaker 2: get in here. Brent Rooker is up. I don't know, man.

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01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 2: I hate that I'm even saying this because I don't

1423
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 2: want to do this to Brent Rooker, and I certainly

1424
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 2: don't want to do this, and I don't want to

1425
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:14,800
Speaker 2: do this to Oakland A's fans. For God's sakes, they've

1426
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:20,560
Speaker 2: been through hell. But I just don't I don't understand

1427
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 2: why baseball doesn't understand repeatedly how to get attention to market.

1428
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 3: They really don't. I've been saying this for years. Man,

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01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 3: they need some fresh ideas, some new blood in there

1430
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 3: to really you know.

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01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a great sport.

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01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:47,360
Speaker 3: It's a beautiful sport, no doubt, and no doubt it

1433
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:55,519
Speaker 3: really is. Soccer markets itself better than baseball in this country.

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01:31:56,160 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. No, it's uh, it's it's beautiful. And

1435
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 2: for some reason, what they seem to not be able

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01:32:06,200 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 2: to remove, especially in this example we're talking about right now,

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01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 2: they're they're unable to remove this idea that they need

1438
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:17,840
Speaker 2: to be driven by fairness. Okay, one for you and

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01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 2: one for you, one for you over here, You're not

1440
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:25,679
Speaker 2: handing out cookies at a party, Okay, I want show,

1441
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 2: hey o Tani at every position. I want him to pitch.

1442
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:31,720
Speaker 2: I want him to see if he can hit his

1443
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 2: own pitch. I want them to do like, seriously, are

1444
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:40,760
Speaker 2: you putting on a show or are we handing out

1445
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:43,400
Speaker 2: cookies at a party and everybody's got to get one

1446
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:47,000
Speaker 2: before anybody else can have their second cookie. That's what

1447
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:57,280
Speaker 2: I don't understand. Some of these are even yes, some

1448
01:32:57,320 --> 01:32:59,800
Speaker 2: of these are even from the teams, you know, I

1449
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:04,160
Speaker 2: mean the Braves. The Braves are running the National League,

1450
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:10,360
Speaker 2: run in the National League. And even they've got you know,

1451
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:13,400
Speaker 2: they've got the Boy, they got a bunch of All Stars,

1452
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 2: they got like seven All Stars, eight All Stars, and

1453
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:20,920
Speaker 2: even a lot of those are not names that people

1454
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:24,479
Speaker 2: are gonna be like, yeah, not terribly interested in uh

1455
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:30,559
Speaker 2: in watching them. So it continues to be a challenge.

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Speaker 2: Lillard potentially forcing his way to Miami, the rest of

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Speaker 2: NBA free agency as well. Dylan Brooks four for eighty

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Speaker 2: All right with e from Salama, Mark Willard, Fox Sports Radio. Okay, y'all,

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Speaker 2: glad you're with us. That's it from Salama, Mark Wellard

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Speaker 2: Live Tyrack dot Com Studios. Talking a lot about Dame

1467
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:14,599
Speaker 2: Lillard today. Em I wonder if you saw this. This

1468
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:16,719
Speaker 2: is kind of an interesting back and forth on Twitter,

1469
01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:18,320
Speaker 2: and I think it gets to the bottom of what

1470
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 2: I'm getting at you and I both, I mean lockstep.

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01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:29,160
Speaker 2: I have no issue with player empowerment. I have no

1472
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:32,439
Speaker 2: issue with Dame Lillard saying, look, it's not happening here.

1473
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:35,720
Speaker 2: I either am or I'm about to be thirty three

1474
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 2: years old. Got to take advantage of what I've got

1475
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:41,400
Speaker 2: while I've still got it, and I want to go

1476
01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:45,600
Speaker 2: play some deep playoff games. And by the way, I

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01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:49,400
Speaker 2: haven't even said this yet tonight. I'm a huge fan

1478
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:53,639
Speaker 2: of watching Lillard play. Like my fandom of players, if

1479
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:56,320
Speaker 2: it's not like a rival of my favorite team or whatever,

1480
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:59,360
Speaker 2: is really based on just the enjoyment I have in

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01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:02,000
Speaker 2: watching US Pacific player play. Is why I've had a

1482
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:05,000
Speaker 2: hard time with Westbrook and Chris Paul and James Harden

1483
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:07,200
Speaker 2: in the past. They play a style where I'm just

1484
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:10,599
Speaker 2: kind of like, like you, you don't need to start

1485
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:13,719
Speaker 2: falling down when no one touched you and start playing

1486
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 2: ISO ball all the time. I really enjoy watching Dame

1487
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:26,280
Speaker 2: Lillard play basketball. So my issue, my question is surrounding

1488
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:29,400
Speaker 2: the idea of not wanting a trade, but by telling

1489
01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 2: the world exactly where you want to go and seemingly

1490
01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 2: demanding not that you're traded, but that you're traded to

1491
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:41,200
Speaker 2: a certain spot, robs the leverage and takes away, quite frankly,

1492
01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:44,639
Speaker 2: of the accomplishment of the acquiring team. So I wonder

1493
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:47,040
Speaker 2: what do you think about this in terms of a

1494
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 2: back and forth that's on Twitter tonight as part of

1495
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:58,320
Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio station that's in Portland. One of their radio hosts,

1496
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 2: who has the Twitter handle Chad in rip City wrote

1497
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:05,679
Speaker 2: earlier today, very surprised to see the number of fans

1498
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:10,479
Speaker 2: turning on Lillard today. I can't blame him for wanting

1499
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 2: a change. The previous regime failed to build a legit

1500
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:16,760
Speaker 2: team around him, and the current chose to go young

1501
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:19,799
Speaker 2: and rebuild. I would guess this is the desired result

1502
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:23,640
Speaker 2: by Cronin and his stoff. Well Dame saw the tweet

1503
01:36:23,680 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 2: and responded and said, it's in my blood to take

1504
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 2: the high road. I'd love to hear what fans are

1505
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:34,800
Speaker 2: turning on. Have I misled them or anyone fill me in?

1506
01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:40,800
Speaker 2: And then, of course there are millions of views, thousands

1507
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:45,759
Speaker 2: of responses, many of which are saying, Dame you're the best,

1508
01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:50,960
Speaker 2: You're the greatest. Don't listen to him. This jealousy, man,

1509
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:55,679
Speaker 2: it's all of that. Well, allow me, a Dame Lillard

1510
01:36:55,680 --> 01:37:01,800
Speaker 2: fan a retort if I'm please read to and it's

1511
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:09,120
Speaker 2: two things. One of them aforementioned you publicly said not

1512
01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:13,320
Speaker 2: I want to go I want to go there. Rob's

1513
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:15,639
Speaker 2: leverage of the team that has paid you every dollar

1514
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:17,840
Speaker 2: that you've earned in the NBA two hundred and thirty

1515
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:22,960
Speaker 2: three million dollars. Why would you do that? And secondly,

1516
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 2: I hate to use the phrase what goes around comes around,

1517
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:31,240
Speaker 2: but Dame Lillard has been one of the most outspoken

1518
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:37,160
Speaker 2: players in this entire league with regard to anti Kevin duranting.

1519
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:42,400
Speaker 2: He has stated it one hundred different ways, one hundred

1520
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:47,320
Speaker 2: different times. Don't give up on the grind. I don't

1521
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:52,519
Speaker 2: want to go join anything established. He has said all

1522
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:57,480
Speaker 2: of these things, and now he's hand picking the team

1523
01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 2: that was just in the NBA Final a couple of

1524
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 2: weeks ago. You got to understand when you sound hypocritical

1525
01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:10,439
Speaker 2: in this life. We all do. But I think you

1526
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:11,920
Speaker 2: have to have awareness of when you hit one of

1527
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 2: those moments. I think he has awareness of it.

1528
01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:20,880
Speaker 3: I just think he really wants to go to a

1529
01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:27,240
Speaker 3: place now where he wants to be. I believe he

1530
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 3: thinks he deserves that, He's earned that, and I side

1531
01:38:31,320 --> 01:38:36,920
Speaker 3: with that. You give a decade to an organization, which

1532
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:41,280
Speaker 3: is loyalty, and today's sports, you spend ten years, you

1533
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 3: spent a whole decade somewhere, that's loyalty. You repeatedly have

1534
01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:52,280
Speaker 3: stated that you want to win, you want to win here,

1535
01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:57,599
Speaker 3: but you wanting to win there as a player doesn't

1536
01:38:57,640 --> 01:39:04,040
Speaker 3: mean you'll win there because you can't control who you

1537
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:10,639
Speaker 3: win there with. And so if you're not developing young players,

1538
01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:16,280
Speaker 3: if you're not bringing in players to help your superstar

1539
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:23,800
Speaker 3: win there after a decade, it's like, we get it.

1540
01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:24,400
Speaker 2: I get it.

1541
01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:29,599
Speaker 3: He's been one of the most loyal players in sport.

1542
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 3: Who else right now, playing at his level has been

1543
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:35,640
Speaker 3: that loyal to a franchise?

1544
01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:43,000
Speaker 2: That's a good question. Who else has been that loyal

1545
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:45,639
Speaker 2: to a franchise? I mean, if we're just talking the NBA,

1546
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 2: the NBA, yeah, I mean, now are you talking about

1547
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:53,920
Speaker 2: players who have not been able to get over the top,

1548
01:39:54,160 --> 01:40:01,080
Speaker 2: or do even ring winners count any one? Giannis has

1549
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 2: shown some loyalty.

1550
01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:07,000
Speaker 3: Yep won a championship there, I know, I know, I know,

1551
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:10,760
Speaker 3: it doesn't I said, it doesn't count. But you're there

1552
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:13,040
Speaker 3: to win a champion like if you stay somewhere, you

1553
01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 3: there to win a championship. Steph Clay and all up

1554
01:40:16,439 --> 01:40:19,000
Speaker 3: they won. So why would they leave? Why would Yanni?

1555
01:40:19,240 --> 01:40:20,479
Speaker 2: He won? Right?

1556
01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:24,760
Speaker 3: So that loyalty's built in because you have accomplished the

1557
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:27,920
Speaker 3: ultimate goal and that's winning the championship. So let's take

1558
01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:33,080
Speaker 3: the ring winners off the table. Okay, what about Joel Embiid?

1559
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:37,400
Speaker 3: How long has he been in Philly?

1560
01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:44,000
Speaker 2: Well, obviously he's his whole career, right and uh we're

1561
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:47,920
Speaker 2: we're we're getting we're getting up there on on how

1562
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:57,519
Speaker 2: many years that's been. Joel Embiid is twenty nine? So

1563
01:40:57,720 --> 01:41:02,040
Speaker 2: Joel has played one, two, three, four, five six.

1564
01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:04,400
Speaker 3: He has played seven years in the league. Not quite

1565
01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 3: in three more years? How do you think Joel him?

1566
01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 3: That's a long time and three more years out of

1567
01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:16,439
Speaker 3: all the turnover coaches, everything that, the process, all of

1568
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:21,559
Speaker 3: those things, they can't quite seem to get over the humph,

1569
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:25,160
Speaker 3: how do you think he'll fill in three years? Being

1570
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:31,640
Speaker 3: three years older? Like, to me, that's I'm like, I

1571
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:34,080
Speaker 3: can get it. It'll wear you down.

1572
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:44,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm with you on Dame saying, look, it's time.

1573
01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:50,599
Speaker 2: My questions are just again, why why did you have

1574
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 2: to say publicly? It needs to be there and there's

1575
01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:59,720
Speaker 2: nothing wrong here, But you have to take it on

1576
01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:04,080
Speaker 2: the when you have a quote calls out all of

1577
01:42:04,120 --> 01:42:09,200
Speaker 2: these other players for quote running from the grind, there's

1578
01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:12,840
Speaker 2: no way around it. Brother, you now have to take

1579
01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:15,040
Speaker 2: it on the chin. You do have to take it

1580
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 2: on the chin. I don't blame you for doing it,

1581
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:20,200
Speaker 2: but you gotta take it on the chin because that's

1582
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:25,240
Speaker 2: your quote and you are now doing exactly what you

1583
01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:26,840
Speaker 2: have said others shouldn't do.

1584
01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:30,599
Speaker 3: But let's be clear, Okay, let's be clear on this.

1585
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:35,160
Speaker 3: He's not saying I want to go to Philly. He's

1586
01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:40,080
Speaker 3: not saying I want to go to Milwaukee. He's not

1587
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:46,439
Speaker 3: saying I want to go to Boston. So let's not

1588
01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:52,639
Speaker 3: make Miami seem like they have a top ten player

1589
01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:57,519
Speaker 3: or top you know, a great player in terms of.

1590
01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:02,280
Speaker 2: Today you know what I mean. It's you know, they're

1591
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:04,599
Speaker 2: the eight seed. So it's a fair point, right like

1592
01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:08,200
Speaker 2: they do have they do have another star. This is a.

1593
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 3: Play and team now that the two play in game

1594
01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:14,360
Speaker 3: team right, but the.

1595
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:17,840
Speaker 2: Coltures five years, three of them have ended in at

1596
01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 2: least the Eastern Conference finals. Yep, right, you have championship pedigree,

1597
01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:26,679
Speaker 2: coach championship pedigree GM and oh, by the way, pretty

1598
01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:33,240
Speaker 2: nice weather. That would be attractive to me. Yes, right, yeah, yeah.

1599
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:39,320
Speaker 3: So when I'm looking at that, I'm not seeing, oh,

1600
01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:40,920
Speaker 3: he's going to join a super team.

1601
01:43:42,160 --> 01:43:44,799
Speaker 2: No, it is not that he has a rubiner.

1602
01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 3: It's one guy and a roster full of undrafted UH

1603
01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:50,799
Speaker 3: players and the ball out.

1604
01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:54,080
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. In a way I would

1605
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:57,000
Speaker 2: I would say this no matter where he where he

1606
01:43:57,120 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 2: said he wanted to go, just the Blazers. Don't tell Twitter.

1607
01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:09,559
Speaker 2: Just just tell the Blazers. See if they'll work with you.

1608
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:13,200
Speaker 2: I feel like they like you, Hey, I feel like

1609
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:16,479
Speaker 2: they've given you a quarter billion dollars. I think they

1610
01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:19,000
Speaker 2: like you. Maybe they'll work with you. It would behoove

1611
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:23,120
Speaker 2: them as well, kind of like how we like Steve

1612
01:44:23,160 --> 01:44:24,760
Speaker 2: de Sega. We like working with him.

1613
01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:27,040
Speaker 5: Love it.

1614
01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 2: Comes to us with a request, We're very likely to

1615
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:30,519
Speaker 2: works to him on that.

1616
01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:33,360
Speaker 3: My heart smiles when I list that music.

1617
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:36,040
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Hi, Steve.

1618
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:38,320
Speaker 5: Good evening once again, gentlemen. The Sunday Night of All

1619
01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 5: Games A final in New York, the Mets beat the

1620
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:42,840
Speaker 5: Giants eight to four. Pete Alonzo of the Mets, who

1621
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 5: announced tonight he will be in the Home Run Derby,

1622
01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 5: which is not this week but next week. He then

1623
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:50,879
Speaker 5: hit his twenty five twenty fifth home run of the season.

1624
01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:54,200
Speaker 5: Tonight he's only betting two twenty one. But as fifty

1625
01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:57,920
Speaker 5: eight RBIs Cleveland and ten innings beat the Cubs eight

1626
01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:01,519
Speaker 5: six in Chicago. That means the Guardians are now tied

1627
01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:05,000
Speaker 5: for first in the Al Central with the Minnesota Twins,

1628
01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:07,400
Speaker 5: who by the way, have a record of forty two

1629
01:45:07,439 --> 01:45:11,360
Speaker 5: and forty three. Cleveland is forty one and forty two. Yes,

1630
01:45:11,439 --> 01:45:14,479
Speaker 5: they're tied for first in the division. Minnesota lost to

1631
01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:16,720
Speaker 5: one at Baltimore with two runs in the bottom of

1632
01:45:16,720 --> 01:45:19,559
Speaker 5: the eighth. In Anaheim Show, Hey Otani with his thirty

1633
01:45:19,600 --> 01:45:23,479
Speaker 5: first home run five two Angels over Arizona, beating All

1634
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:26,920
Speaker 5: Stars Zat Gallen, who did have twelve strikeouts in seven innings,

1635
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:29,720
Speaker 5: had been ten and two this year. Otani today was

1636
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 5: named as an All Star pitcher by the Way. As well,

1637
01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:35,320
Speaker 5: he's already the starting DH for the American League. The

1638
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:38,000
Speaker 5: All Star Game is on Fox TV from Seattle a

1639
01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:42,040
Speaker 5: week from Tuesday, July eleventh. Dusty Baker Houston will be

1640
01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:44,960
Speaker 5: the AL manager. Rob Thompson of the Phillies will manage

1641
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:48,120
Speaker 5: the NL those with the two World Series managers last year.

1642
01:45:48,520 --> 01:45:51,479
Speaker 5: In the American League, Texas has six All Stars on

1643
01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:55,639
Speaker 5: the roster, including four infielders. With the full rosters out today,

1644
01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:59,679
Speaker 5: eight Atlanta Braves total have been named four infielders, catcher

1645
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:03,240
Speaker 5: to two pitchers and an outfielder. One of those pitchers

1646
01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:05,760
Speaker 5: got the win today. Spencer Strider is ten and two

1647
01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:08,920
Speaker 5: at Lantadown, Miami, six to three, eight straight wins for

1648
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:11,680
Speaker 5: the Braves. Luis a Rias of the Marlins did have

1649
01:46:11,680 --> 01:46:14,880
Speaker 5: an RBI single and RBI double. He's batting three eighty

1650
01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:18,680
Speaker 5: nine wins for Detroit and Seattle. White Sox held on

1651
01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:22,120
Speaker 5: to win at Oakland eight to seven. Cincinnati beat the

1652
01:46:22,120 --> 01:46:24,280
Speaker 5: Padres four to three. The Reds are still tied for

1653
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:26,639
Speaker 5: first in the NL Central with the Brewers, who won

1654
01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:30,439
Speaker 5: six to three at Pittsburgh, Kansas City and Washington with wins.

1655
01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:34,120
Speaker 5: Houston got a victory at Texas five to three, Boston

1656
01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:38,280
Speaker 5: five four over Toronto beating closer Jordan Romano. Saint Louis

1657
01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:40,800
Speaker 5: down the Yankees and Garrett Cole five to one, the

1658
01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:44,800
Speaker 5: winning pitcher former Yankee Jordan Montgomery. The Utah Jazz are

1659
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:47,479
Speaker 5: giving Jordan Clarkson a new three year deal. The Phoenix

1660
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:50,640
Speaker 5: Sun signed Eric Gordon. Nick's gar Josh Hart committed to

1661
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:54,360
Speaker 5: Team USA for this Summer's Basketball World Cup. NASCAR was

1662
01:46:54,360 --> 01:46:58,200
Speaker 5: in Chicago. Shane van Gisberg and won the Street Race

1663
01:46:58,240 --> 01:47:02,160
Speaker 5: in his Cup Series debut. US Men's soccer in Charlotte

1664
01:47:02,200 --> 01:47:05,519
Speaker 5: defeated Trinidad six nothing in the Gold Cup tournament right

1665
01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:09,120
Speaker 5: now in the Bay Area. At halftime, it's Katar ahead

1666
01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:11,559
Speaker 5: of Mexico. Won nothing at the break. By the way,

1667
01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:14,519
Speaker 5: the Americans quarterfinal in this tourney will be next Sunday

1668
01:47:14,640 --> 01:47:18,479
Speaker 5: in Cincinnati. Ricky Fowler won the PGA event in Detroit

1669
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:22,280
Speaker 5: in a playoff, his first tour victory in over four years.

1670
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:25,599
Speaker 5: Live Golf was in Spain. The winner Taylor Gooch Course.

1671
01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:30,200
Speaker 5: Every Live winner gets four million dollars. Ricky Fowler earned

1672
01:47:30,200 --> 01:47:34,240
Speaker 5: over one point five million for taking the Detroit event

1673
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:38,519
Speaker 5: and PGA. How about this Bubba Watson is a guy

1674
01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:42,639
Speaker 5: who left the PGA Tour for Live Golf. He finished

1675
01:47:42,680 --> 01:47:46,080
Speaker 5: five over par in Spain this weekend, so thirty fourth

1676
01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:49,439
Speaker 5: place out of forty eight golfers. Bubba Watson earned nearly

1677
01:47:49,479 --> 01:47:52,839
Speaker 5: one hundred and seventy thousand dollars for three days of golf.

1678
01:47:53,320 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 5: The comparison at the PGA event, not one hundred and

1679
01:47:55,840 --> 01:48:00,719
Speaker 5: seventy thousand, would have been forty six thousand for a tie.

1680
01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:01,080
Speaker 3: For thirty thirty.

1681
01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:02,840
Speaker 2: It makes zero sense.

1682
01:48:04,280 --> 01:48:06,759
Speaker 5: Man, Well a lot of dollars put no sense exactly

1683
01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:07,960
Speaker 5: back to you.

1684
01:48:07,960 --> 01:48:10,479
Speaker 2: No, they gotta do. I mean it's it's kind of easy.

1685
01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:12,200
Speaker 2: I think what they need to do now that they've

1686
01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:15,720
Speaker 2: got this dirty partnership or whatever you want to call it,

1687
01:48:16,560 --> 01:48:19,200
Speaker 2: at the end of this year, Live Golf needs to

1688
01:48:19,240 --> 01:48:21,720
Speaker 2: go away and then they all need to get on

1689
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:25,519
Speaker 2: back on the same tour together, and the persons need

1690
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:31,080
Speaker 2: to I don't know, double at least the fifty raise

1691
01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:34,360
Speaker 2: in the in the purses or you know what. I

1692
01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:38,360
Speaker 2: think they also want. They want appearance fees, which this

1693
01:48:38,439 --> 01:48:40,880
Speaker 2: is one side I get. I get it a little bit,

1694
01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:46,080
Speaker 2: I really do. Right, who's the guy that just wanted

1695
01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:50,959
Speaker 2: today to Live Golf, Taylor Gootch, that's correct, Okay. Ricky Fowler,

1696
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:55,479
Speaker 2: despite not winning for four years, is still out there

1697
01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:59,240
Speaker 2: wearing orange Puma gear. Like you could dress up as

1698
01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:01,880
Speaker 2: Ricky Fowler for Halloween and I'd be like, oh, you're

1699
01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:08,880
Speaker 2: Rickey Fallen, right, which means which means he deserves a

1700
01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:11,479
Speaker 2: little doe because people are showing up to these tournaments

1701
01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:15,440
Speaker 2: to see him.

1702
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:21,439
Speaker 3: You're absolutely right, You're absolutely right. Golf is built on

1703
01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:23,280
Speaker 3: the golfers.

1704
01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:25,320
Speaker 2: It has to be.

1705
01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:31,000
Speaker 3: The game's too born and and watchable any other way.

1706
01:49:31,560 --> 01:49:36,160
Speaker 3: How many people it did? What happened to viewership when

1707
01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:39,240
Speaker 3: tiger Woods became irrelevant in golf?

1708
01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:43,880
Speaker 2: I mean gone, gone right? Remember El Nino.

1709
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:54,320
Speaker 3: Yep right, Like that's what the dailies in the uh

1710
01:49:54,880 --> 01:50:01,000
Speaker 3: Michaelson like all of those. That's what drives you gambling

1711
01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:04,200
Speaker 3: ones that you could take tiger Woods are the field

1712
01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:05,519
Speaker 3: in a major?

1713
01:50:07,680 --> 01:50:11,360
Speaker 2: What type of odds are those? Totally?

1714
01:50:11,560 --> 01:50:19,400
Speaker 3: Tiger Woods are the field. But when you when you

1715
01:50:19,439 --> 01:50:26,000
Speaker 3: take that away, it's just guys with sticks hidden like it,

1716
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 3: it's not watchable. It's hard to watch it when you

1717
01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:36,800
Speaker 3: don't have a rooting interest other sports you can watch

1718
01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:39,920
Speaker 3: it because of the sport, the excitement of it, the

1719
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:43,519
Speaker 3: But when we don't have a rooting interest in golf,

1720
01:50:43,640 --> 01:50:54,439
Speaker 3: it's like, so, yeah, pay them live is paying them?

1721
01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:57,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not that hard. It's not it's not that hard.

1722
01:50:57,720 --> 01:51:02,200
Speaker 2: What what what's difficult is figuring out who gets that

1723
01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:05,920
Speaker 2: payment and how much is it? You know what I mean. Like,

1724
01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:09,200
Speaker 2: I've got a very very good buddy who made it.

1725
01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:11,120
Speaker 2: He made it to the tour and he was one

1726
01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:14,320
Speaker 2: of these, you know, like he won. He was Taylor Gooch.

1727
01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:16,960
Speaker 2: You know, you didn't know who he was, but he

1728
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:19,320
Speaker 2: was good. He got to like twentieth in the world,

1729
01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:27,040
Speaker 2: and you know he's retired now, but he did very

1730
01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:30,599
Speaker 2: very well for himself. But I've watched it, you know,

1731
01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:36,280
Speaker 2: like it's a very very unglamorous daily life. It's just

1732
01:51:36,320 --> 01:51:42,160
Speaker 2: like I'm flying myself to whatever, Ohio and when I

1733
01:51:42,240 --> 01:51:45,920
Speaker 2: get there, somebody is going to grant me a courtesy car,

1734
01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:48,640
Speaker 2: but I'm getting my own bags. I'm getting in that

1735
01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:53,599
Speaker 2: rental car shuttle and I'm gonna go get my courtesy

1736
01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:55,439
Speaker 2: car and then I'm gonna drive my courtesy car to

1737
01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:59,800
Speaker 2: my hotel room that I paid for. Yeah, that's not it.

1738
01:51:59,479 --> 01:52:03,479
Speaker 2: And then after I have my practice rounds for two days.

1739
01:52:03,560 --> 01:52:07,160
Speaker 2: I'm going down the street to get my own dinner,

1740
01:52:07,200 --> 01:52:10,040
Speaker 2: and I'm overdoing it a little bit. They get taken

1741
01:52:10,120 --> 01:52:14,599
Speaker 2: care of, but not totally financially, like they are paying

1742
01:52:14,680 --> 01:52:17,040
Speaker 2: their own way. And so if you go miss a cut,

1743
01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:20,720
Speaker 2: you have essentially just performed as a professional athlete in

1744
01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:26,639
Speaker 2: front of fans and paid to do it. Yeah. Look,

1745
01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:27,679
Speaker 2: that's weird.

1746
01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:35,800
Speaker 3: It's weird and extremely extremely weird, and especially to be

1747
01:52:35,800 --> 01:52:39,200
Speaker 3: a professional athlete. So how could you be mad at

1748
01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:42,080
Speaker 3: a golfer for going to join and live and your

1749
01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:45,840
Speaker 3: standard of living would dramatically increase because of your job?

1750
01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:51,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, duh. No, I'm well passed getting mad at those guys.

1751
01:52:51,400 --> 01:52:53,519
Speaker 2: I don't have to root for that tour or like

1752
01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:58,479
Speaker 2: its backing, or even like its existence. But I'm well

1753
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:01,840
Speaker 2: passed getting mad at golf who are like, wait, you

1754
01:53:02,000 --> 01:53:04,680
Speaker 2: just offered me one hundred and fifty million dollars and

1755
01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 2: guaranteed paychecks every week. Yeah, I'll take that. I guarantee you.

1756
01:53:09,200 --> 01:53:15,120
Speaker 3: The live golfers aren't flying themselves anywhere, No, I can

1757
01:53:15,320 --> 01:53:16,639
Speaker 3: promise you it's not happening.

1758
01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:20,160
Speaker 2: No, they all got a jet. I mean, maybe they

1759
01:53:20,160 --> 01:53:25,120
Speaker 2: are flying themselves because they all bought a jet. Unbelievable.

1760
01:53:25,120 --> 01:53:28,000
Speaker 2: All right, there's still one question I've not asked you

1761
01:53:28,040 --> 01:53:30,880
Speaker 2: about Dame Lillard because the whole conversation has been through

1762
01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:33,680
Speaker 2: the eyes of Dame. What about through the eyes of

1763
01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:37,920
Speaker 2: the blazers. I got that question for you coming up next.

1764
01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:41,880
Speaker 2: Mark with it He from Salam Fox Sports Radio show. Hey,

1765
01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:47,320
Speaker 2: we'll pitch Tuesday on the fourth of July. There that

1766
01:53:47,560 --> 01:53:53,000
Speaker 2: one might be longer than other, number.

1767
01:53:52,840 --> 01:53:55,160
Speaker 1: Thirty one for show hell time.

1768
01:53:55,960 --> 01:54:00,400
Speaker 2: I mean, the dude is just otherworldly. I can't wait

1769
01:54:00,439 --> 01:54:04,160
Speaker 2: for that free agency. I cannot with that number. Oh

1770
01:54:04,280 --> 01:54:08,360
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Speaker 2: live from the tire Rack dot Com studios. Okay, big man,

1777
01:54:30,920 --> 01:54:33,160
Speaker 2: what if I asked it to you this way? We've

1778
01:54:33,240 --> 01:54:36,560
Speaker 2: laid it all out, all the different things in Dame

1779
01:54:36,640 --> 01:54:41,400
Speaker 2: Lillard's situation, how he's handled it, and so it's public,

1780
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:44,560
Speaker 2: It's all over the internet. He wants to go to Miami.

1781
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:47,400
Speaker 2: I was just reading moments ago. Miami is treating this

1782
01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:51,400
Speaker 2: as their moment. This is their chance. They're gonna get

1783
01:54:51,440 --> 01:54:56,280
Speaker 2: their hands on Dame Lillard. If you were running the Blazers,

1784
01:54:57,880 --> 01:54:59,120
Speaker 2: you would handle this how.

1785
01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:04,080
Speaker 3: I would try to get as much as I could

1786
01:55:04,160 --> 01:55:09,560
Speaker 3: possibly get in return, and I would send Dame too.

1787
01:55:12,240 --> 01:55:18,680
Speaker 3: I would send him to Miami. Hmmm, I would. I

1788
01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:19,520
Speaker 3: would send him there.

1789
01:55:23,640 --> 01:55:26,240
Speaker 2: Why would you not just send him to whoever gives

1790
01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:32,160
Speaker 2: you the best offer? Two more years left? So like

1791
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:37,520
Speaker 2: short of Dame, and I would call this bluff. If

1792
01:55:37,560 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 2: Lillard's like, I'm only going to Miami, well, he didn't

1793
01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:43,600
Speaker 2: say only that he's not. He hasn't said that what

1794
01:55:43,680 --> 01:55:46,720
Speaker 2: he said. No, No, he has not said that, but

1795
01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:50,200
Speaker 2: he could. Yeah, I don't.

1796
01:55:50,280 --> 01:55:57,640
Speaker 3: I don't think that's where his head is. I think personally,

1797
01:56:00,640 --> 01:56:05,480
Speaker 3: I can see him wanting to go to Miami. Now

1798
01:56:05,680 --> 01:56:13,520
Speaker 3: Portland doesn't have any they don't have to do that, right,

1799
01:56:14,600 --> 01:56:18,600
Speaker 3: They don't have to send him to where he wants

1800
01:56:18,640 --> 01:56:22,160
Speaker 3: to go. They can send him to whoever gives them

1801
01:56:22,160 --> 01:56:25,520
Speaker 3: the best deal. But if the deal, in my opinion,

1802
01:56:25,800 --> 01:56:33,800
Speaker 3: isn't earth shattering and that different than the Miami deal,

1803
01:56:35,840 --> 01:56:39,200
Speaker 3: then I'd send him to where he would want to go, because, look,

1804
01:56:39,240 --> 01:56:45,480
Speaker 3: they're rebuilding. We know that they got schooled, now that

1805
01:56:46,600 --> 01:56:53,600
Speaker 3: they're changing course, what they've done hasn't worked. So what

1806
01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:55,720
Speaker 3: are you looking for in return? You're looking for another

1807
01:56:55,760 --> 01:56:58,000
Speaker 3: top tier player like Dame, then you'll be in the

1808
01:56:58,000 --> 01:57:01,800
Speaker 3: same situation you were with Dame. You still don't have enough,

1809
01:57:03,800 --> 01:57:07,960
Speaker 3: so you can get some pieces, you can get some

1810
01:57:08,080 --> 01:57:14,440
Speaker 3: draft capital, and you can try to build eighteen. But

1811
01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:18,000
Speaker 3: outside of that, I mean, what can someone offer you

1812
01:57:18,640 --> 01:57:20,720
Speaker 3: that is gonna make the most sense.

1813
01:57:23,720 --> 01:57:26,440
Speaker 2: The package that has been floated out there from the

1814
01:57:26,440 --> 01:57:30,680
Speaker 2: Miami Heat is a couple of future first round picks,

1815
01:57:30,880 --> 01:57:34,720
Speaker 2: but well down the road, Okay, well down the road

1816
01:57:34,840 --> 01:57:39,920
Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight, twenty thirty, and then also Tyler Herro

1817
01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:46,280
Speaker 2: and then Yovich and Robinson. That's what's been floated out

1818
01:57:46,320 --> 01:57:52,720
Speaker 2: there by those who know how these packages all work

1819
01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:56,680
Speaker 2: financially and whatnot. I've seen that now in a couple

1820
01:57:56,720 --> 01:58:00,920
Speaker 2: of places, And if I'm a fan of the Ortland Blazers,

1821
01:58:01,160 --> 01:58:04,040
Speaker 2: I'll just be honest with you. From that doesn't excite

1822
01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:07,440
Speaker 2: me very much. That doesn't do a whole lot for me, Like,

1823
01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:10,839
Speaker 2: not even a little bit, not at all?

1824
01:58:11,080 --> 01:58:14,720
Speaker 3: Is their market for Dame Lillard out there though? What

1825
01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:16,880
Speaker 3: doesn't excite you? What we don't wear?

1826
01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:21,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. Let's if I'm the Blazers, let's find out.

1827
01:58:21,600 --> 01:58:23,600
Speaker 3: Well, they're gonna find out, and the they're definitely going

1828
01:58:23,680 --> 01:58:24,280
Speaker 3: to find out.

1829
01:58:24,880 --> 01:58:27,880
Speaker 2: But that's how I'd handled it if I were them.

1830
01:58:28,200 --> 01:58:29,960
Speaker 2: That's that's how I And what if they are?

1831
01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:32,400
Speaker 3: But but what if they like, we don't we don't

1832
01:58:32,440 --> 01:58:35,320
Speaker 3: hear that aspect of it. But as soon as Dame

1833
01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:39,440
Speaker 3: Lillard was like, I want to trade, the phone started

1834
01:58:39,480 --> 01:58:42,040
Speaker 3: to ring. So now you feel these offs. Hey, I

1835
01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:44,000
Speaker 3: want to go to Miami. Okay, well, well let's see

1836
01:58:44,000 --> 01:58:46,320
Speaker 3: if that works. If not, it doesn't work.

1837
01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:49,640
Speaker 2: Well, I mean you said, if you're the Blazers, you'd

1838
01:58:49,800 --> 01:58:50,880
Speaker 2: you'd send them to Miami.

1839
01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:52,720
Speaker 3: I would try to send them to Miami. I would

1840
01:58:52,720 --> 01:58:56,480
Speaker 3: definitely try to send them there. H But if it

1841
01:58:56,560 --> 01:59:01,320
Speaker 3: doesn't work, it doesn't work. You get what I'm saying, Like,

1842
01:59:01,360 --> 01:59:05,400
Speaker 3: if it's sure, so that I guess.

1843
01:59:06,040 --> 01:59:08,600
Speaker 2: I guess we spend a lot of time saying, hey,

1844
01:59:08,600 --> 01:59:12,560
Speaker 2: players should be empowered to right, there's no loyalty and

1845
01:59:12,720 --> 01:59:15,040
Speaker 2: they should be able to do what's best for them.

1846
01:59:15,280 --> 01:59:19,680
Speaker 2: But somehow right like the team, the team now owes

1847
01:59:19,720 --> 01:59:23,120
Speaker 2: something to Dame Lillard. No.

1848
01:59:25,040 --> 01:59:30,360
Speaker 3: I think by them trying to send him to where

1849
01:59:30,360 --> 01:59:38,600
Speaker 3: he wants to go, that's them saying thank you, right,

1850
01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:41,360
Speaker 3: thank you, well, appreciate what you did for us with

1851
01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:43,800
Speaker 3: sticking with us, because he could have left, could have

1852
01:59:43,880 --> 01:59:46,400
Speaker 3: left on his own, he didn't.

1853
01:59:47,200 --> 01:59:50,440
Speaker 2: Yep, you can now leave on your own because our

1854
01:59:50,440 --> 01:59:51,000
Speaker 2: show's over.

1855
01:59:51,080 --> 01:59:53,960
Speaker 3: I'm out of here, but okay, good talking to you, brother.

1856
01:59:54,160 --> 01:59:55,320
Speaker 2: Stick with us on FSR