Speaker 1: As a guide and hunter, I've spent thousands of days
Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard
Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics they'll get you closer
Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren.
Speaker 1: This is cutting the Distance. Welcome back to the podcast everyone.
Speaker 1: It is now one of the best months of the year. September,
Speaker 1: the Elk Rut will be kicking off. If you've got
Speaker 1: an archery elk tag, this is a great time. If
Speaker 1: you're just dreaming about having an archeryalk tag, well, it's
Speaker 1: also a great time because there's gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: of elk hunting content. Don't prepare you for whenever you
Speaker 1: hit the mountains, hit the trail and get out and
Speaker 1: chase them. And a lot of these tactics that I
Speaker 1: talked about for archery season can kind of relate into
Speaker 1: other tactics as well throughout the season. Some rifles, stuf
Speaker 1: often things maybe not necessarily a calling, but a lot
Speaker 1: of elk behavior things that you can pick up. So
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about that. To kick off September, I
Speaker 1: say we're gonna go to the mail sack. I got
Speaker 1: a lot of great questions about archery, l hunting, elk
Speaker 1: hunting in general, some of the previous podcasts. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna jump right in and head to your questions. This
Speaker 1: first question comes from Chris. He says you mentioned still
Speaker 1: hunting when it's slow for archery elk. Just wondering if
Speaker 1: you are in the zone, I mean as in it
Speaker 1: stinks not just like p but you can smell the
Speaker 1: actual elk itself. Are you knocking an arrow and release
Speaker 1: on the string basically ready to shoot as you painstakingly
Speaker 1: creep a hundred yards every ten to twenty minutes kind
Speaker 1: of stuff, or are you prepping for the shot once
Speaker 1: the shot is present. It seems like I never have
Speaker 1: more than point five seconds to shoot, regardless of how
Speaker 1: slow I'm moving, never have gotten a good shot. Still
Speaker 1: hunting elk in the timber uh, He says, I could
Speaker 1: have taken cows like that before, I guess, but never
Speaker 1: a bowl. Also, if the bull has cows the house,
Speaker 1: always see me first. Um, So just curious on your tactic.
Speaker 1: Thanks Christom Bido. That's a good question, Chris. Yeah, when
Speaker 1: I'm when I'm in the zone, like if I get
Speaker 1: that feeling even sometimes when I'm in an area, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: this is good. I'm slowing down. I'm going to kind
Speaker 1: of creep through here. I do a couple of things
Speaker 1: to prepare. I always have my call in my mouth
Speaker 1: uh step one um, and I do that. You know,
Speaker 1: if I if it's an area where I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of cruising through, it could be a
Speaker 1: good spot, but I'm not quite certain that it's it's
Speaker 1: the right spot. I have that call in my mouth.
Speaker 1: The reason that is is because that could give me
Speaker 1: that extra second or the extra time that I need
Speaker 1: to get ready. So I've got the call ready. That way,
Speaker 1: if I see an elk that maybe sees me, I
Speaker 1: could get down make the call sound and that elk
Speaker 1: might think, oh, it's just another cow walking around. I'll
Speaker 1: make a mirror cow sound. Or even sometimes if you
Speaker 1: go in and and you happen to blow something out,
Speaker 1: hit that cow call and it will often stop the
Speaker 1: elk that's spooped. Now, if it's a big herd and
Speaker 1: one elk sees you, the other elk might not know
Speaker 1: why that elk uh spooked off, and it might calm
Speaker 1: or down to be like, oh something scared me, but
Speaker 1: it was just another elk. We're okay, and it might
Speaker 1: calm things down enough to to change the situation. Now,
Speaker 1: when I'm in an area that I'm like, oh this
Speaker 1: feels elky, I'm probably gonna see a bull in here
Speaker 1: and moving in, I'm ready. I have an arrow on
Speaker 1: the string and um, and I'm creeping through now. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you know people would be like, oh, that's not safe whatever,
Speaker 1: just be careful, you know, um, especially when you're by yourself,
Speaker 1: It's not um a big of a deal for me,
Speaker 1: especially when I'm like self filming, I've got my camera
Speaker 1: in one hand and I have that arrow on the string.
Speaker 1: Because the amount of time that it takes to do
Speaker 1: all the stuff is generally the exact amount of time
Speaker 1: it takes to miss an opportunity. So I wouldn't say
Speaker 1: that I have the uh my release on the string
Speaker 1: or anything like that, but I'm ready with an arrow knocked.
Speaker 1: And then when I get out of an area, or
Speaker 1: if I've got a bunch of crazy stuff to climb
Speaker 1: over them, like, okay, it's probably not safe to climb
Speaker 1: over with a arrow. Whatever, I'll take it off the string,
Speaker 1: go through it, put it back on. But I just
Speaker 1: played by your really like if you feel like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have an opportunity in the next twenty minutes hour whatever, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to be as ready as possible, and it
Speaker 1: always includes first having that call because that even if
Speaker 1: you're ready, having that call ready, and just like the
Speaker 1: second that that like, let's say you mess something up
Speaker 1: and Elk sees you. It's like standing and staring. Just
Speaker 1: giving it a little bit of a call and not
Speaker 1: moving can often be the difference between calming them down.
Speaker 1: And sometimes you'll do that and it might get that
Speaker 1: bull to fire off where he's bedded. Maybe that helk
Speaker 1: got up, that elks staring at you, you make a
Speaker 1: cow sound, the bull gets up and he might come investigate,
Speaker 1: or he might even let out a bugle give you
Speaker 1: kind of a better indication of where the bulls at.
Speaker 1: So that's what I do when I'm still hunting through
Speaker 1: some of that timber. Next question, Hey, Remy love the podcast.
Speaker 1: Keep it going early season Elk Hunting. Will you stay
Speaker 1: out all day and look for betting areas or head
Speaker 1: back to camp midday? Andrew, that's a good question. I
Speaker 1: know everybody's kind of got their own method and style hunting.
Speaker 1: Mine is you can't kill them from camp, so I'm
Speaker 1: out there all day um especially, I mean that's just
Speaker 1: how I hunt. Uh, And I'm and I personally can't
Speaker 1: really nap that well. So if I am gonna maybe
Speaker 1: take a nap or whatever, um, it would be on
Speaker 1: the mountain in the field. But I do find a
Speaker 1: lot of elk early season in those midday lolls. Um.
Speaker 1: What I'll do is I'll, like I say, I'll try
Speaker 1: still hunting through some potential betting areas or even just
Speaker 1: kind of checking out different water sources looking for tracks
Speaker 1: and sign and things like that. And another really good
Speaker 1: thing is if it's more open country, glassing mid day
Speaker 1: can actually be pretty successful because what you're doing is
Speaker 1: it's limiting the places that the elk could be. That's it.
Speaker 1: If it's more open country, like open country, middle of
Speaker 1: the day can be pretty effective because you can go, okay,
Speaker 1: well here's the potential betting areas and you can kind
Speaker 1: of glass in there and maybe pick up um some
Speaker 1: animals that you might not find otherwise. It might be
Speaker 1: a good way to to you know, target in and
Speaker 1: and get the hunt going. Now, there's other times where
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, you know, you you're hunting a smaller area,
Speaker 1: you know where the elk are, and you're just waiting
Speaker 1: for them to make their move in the mornings and evenings.
Speaker 1: Let's say it's you're hunting near home or something like that,
Speaker 1: and you've got time, You've got a whole season, then yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe it maybe it's not worth burning out your time
Speaker 1: during the middle of the day. It's like, hey, you've
Speaker 1: got you can go out after work, you can go
Speaker 1: in the morning. It's a great idea to just kind
Speaker 1: of like attack those elk that you're chasing in the
Speaker 1: prime times for doing it and not get super impatient
Speaker 1: and bump them around. So it really depends on whether
Speaker 1: you're like if I'm if I'm in on elk and
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, they're being super active in the morning,
Speaker 1: and they're being super active in the evening, and I
Speaker 1: know where they're at and I've got them kind of pegged.
Speaker 1: I actually you will just pull out of that area
Speaker 1: because otherwise I'll be sitting there getting way too impatient,
Speaker 1: like who I should go try something stupid. So it
Speaker 1: just depends on the scenario. But for the most part,
Speaker 1: like if I don't know where the elk are hunting stuff.
Speaker 1: I used every available minute to try to find elk
Speaker 1: and and find success. This question comes from Ryan. He says, Hey,
Speaker 1: Remy uh Ryan from tor in Wyoming. I was listening
Speaker 1: to your podcast yesterday about hunting in the smoke and
Speaker 1: had a question for you. The area we have elk
Speaker 1: hunted in the past, we were planning on hunting this
Speaker 1: year and had a big wildfire last year. Would it
Speaker 1: still hold elk or should we give up on that
Speaker 1: spot for a year or two and try to let
Speaker 1: it recover. Do you have any tips for hunting the burn. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a really good question. I mean, hunting burns and
Speaker 1: elk can go hand in hand and it can be
Speaker 1: really successful. Um. A couple of things that I like
Speaker 1: to think about, are you know what what time of
Speaker 1: year that fire burned. Was it like really late in
Speaker 1: the season, is it winter range, summer range? Um? But
Speaker 1: outside of that, I would say even if fire burned
Speaker 1: last year, yes, you'll definitely still find elk in there.
Speaker 1: I have found elk uh the year after fire many
Speaker 1: many places. UM. Now, what you'll what you want is
Speaker 1: like if you've got some good rains, even like some
Speaker 1: September rains some later summer rains. Uh, what you're gonna
Speaker 1: look for is that green up that really high nutrient
Speaker 1: dense forage, because they'll go in there. It might not
Speaker 1: look like a lot of forage, but there's gonna be
Speaker 1: that green up that comes up in some of those areas,
Speaker 1: and that's gonna be super attractive to those elk. Now,
Speaker 1: one thing you want to think about is finding kind
Speaker 1: of fringes of the fire. So I would maybe I
Speaker 1: don't know if I would avoid it, but what I'm
Speaker 1: what you're looking for is you're looking for places where
Speaker 1: it burned patchy, so like there's a burn and then
Speaker 1: there's a patch alive trees and then there's a burn
Speaker 1: and something like that where they've got the cover in
Speaker 1: that burn, especially when it's fresh, it's going to be
Speaker 1: a lot more effective elk or or highly fringe animals.
Speaker 1: So they're they're living on the fringes of cover and
Speaker 1: open and that opens where they're gonna feed, and that
Speaker 1: covers where they're gonna bed and feel safe. So if
Speaker 1: you find a spot in that burn that has all
Speaker 1: those things, throw in some water. You've got a really
Speaker 1: good recipe. For finding elk, and it makes it really
Speaker 1: effective to some areas that maybe you hunted before. You're like, wow,
Speaker 1: that was really thick in here. You can now glass
Speaker 1: some of that stuff, and it kind of opens up
Speaker 1: a whole new a whole new spot to check out.
Speaker 1: One of the places that I'm hunting. It's a tag
Speaker 1: that I haven't actually hunted before, but there's a recent
Speaker 1: burn in there very similar to this, and that's something
Speaker 1: on my list where I'm going to check out, just
Speaker 1: checking out the fringes of that burn map and trying
Speaker 1: to kind of cover those areas and maybe potentially areas
Speaker 1: that were a little thicker to hunt where you couldn't glass,
Speaker 1: but now you're able to glass, so you might you
Speaker 1: might find that you turn up quite a few elk
Speaker 1: and some of the same places that you used to
Speaker 1: find elk before the fire. So definitely worth checking out.
Speaker 1: As the years progress, it will get better and better.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, Um, a couple of years later, it'll
Speaker 1: start kind of peeking and then you know, and then
Speaker 1: you'll see even after later on five plus years down
Speaker 1: the road, you're gonna see a lot of benefits of
Speaker 1: increased populations from that burn. So fires are not always
Speaker 1: a bad thing when it comes to elk hunting. Check
Speaker 1: it out. Let me know how you guys do. And
Speaker 1: it's really fun to find elk in the burn because
Speaker 1: they're antlers are so dark. They're all they roll in
Speaker 1: that like burn mud that they wallow in. They just
Speaker 1: like look really dark colored and really cool. So that's something.
Speaker 1: Also when they're rubbing on burned antlers, like they're antlers
Speaker 1: on burned trees too, they get like really dark racks,
Speaker 1: which is pretty awesome. Okay, this question comes from Brandon.
Speaker 1: He says, Hey, Rammy, First, I wanted to say thank
Speaker 1: you for what you do and all the content you produce.
Speaker 1: I've been a fan since I discovered Solo Hunter about
Speaker 1: five years ago, and I've listened to all your podcasts
Speaker 1: multiple times. I just recently moved to Washington State and
Speaker 1: was curious if you've noticed any differences in behavior between
Speaker 1: Rocky Mountain elk versus Roosevelt elk, or if there are
Speaker 1: any different hunting slash scouting tactics you use when going
Speaker 1: after Rosie's first Rocky Mountains Any vice info greatly appreciated.
Speaker 1: PS awesome, keep doing what you do. Thanks Brandon, I
Speaker 1: really appreciate that. Yeah, you know, when it comes to
Speaker 1: hunting different species of elk, I don't have a ton
Speaker 1: of experience hunting Roosevelt elk, but I do you know,
Speaker 1: I have hunted them, and I have noticed a few
Speaker 1: major differences, mostly the differences in you know, their their
Speaker 1: habitat and the way that they kind of interact with
Speaker 1: each other. So if you kind of think about well,
Speaker 1: I mean, and this actually kind of pertains to really
Speaker 1: any animal in cover animals verse um open country animals.
Speaker 1: So most Roosevelt elk country is pretty thick. It's more
Speaker 1: of that temperate rainforest. Uh. You know, you've got a
Speaker 1: lot of water, you've got a lot of cover, maybe
Speaker 1: not as many openings. Generally, when you have that kind
Speaker 1: of terrain, the populations are a little bit smaller than
Speaker 1: maybe you'd see in like Rocky Mountain elk. They get
Speaker 1: these giant, massive, hundred elk like groups gathered up. And
Speaker 1: that's probably more of a factor of feed and habitat
Speaker 1: and other things, but also just the way that these
Speaker 1: elk acts. Now, um, one thing that I found with
Speaker 1: elk or any animals that live in highly forested areas,
Speaker 1: they generally have a tighter home range, so things like, um,
Speaker 1: if you kind of find their bedroom, they're gonna be
Speaker 1: closer and tighter in that area. But it's a lot
Speaker 1: harder to kind of find that needle and haystack in
Speaker 1: the cover. So whereas like Rocky Mountain elk, they might
Speaker 1: be in this one based in this one drainage and
Speaker 1: then they've got a circuit that takes them five ten
Speaker 1: miles away whatever. Um, they're more migratory, they move more.
Speaker 1: Whereas those coastal animals they kind of have their patterns
Speaker 1: and they're definitely more patternable. They're more like hunting even
Speaker 1: like even hunting a black tail where it's like they
Speaker 1: they've got a smaller area than compared to um, open
Speaker 1: country black tails or whatever. So something to think about.
Speaker 1: So if you one thing that's really nice about that
Speaker 1: is you can kind of do your homework and you
Speaker 1: can kind of figure out, Okay, this is where these
Speaker 1: animals are living, and then you can really focus in.
Speaker 1: Now you're hunting tactics are going to be a little
Speaker 1: bit different because, um, you know, you you might not
Speaker 1: want to, like it might take you a little bit
Speaker 1: longer to hunt that particular amount of country, like it
Speaker 1: takes longer to hunt a small section of thick country.
Speaker 1: One thing that's really nice, though, is if they're making noise,
Speaker 1: that's kind of a dead giveaway. So hunting thick country
Speaker 1: can be awesome, and it's actually easier to call elk
Speaker 1: and in my opinion, in thicker country when you get
Speaker 1: them fired up because they have they can't really use
Speaker 1: their eyes from distance to see you. So one hunting
Speaker 1: tactic is going to be using a lot of of calling. Now,
Speaker 1: if you can use trail cameras, I actually, um, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure that you know, things are changing so fast
Speaker 1: and I haven't I'm not hunting in um Washington this year,
Speaker 1: so I don't really know about the rules on trail cameras.
Speaker 1: But if you can use them or whatever, you know,
Speaker 1: finding those wallows, those other places, maybe even trade ails
Speaker 1: or or areas where they're frequenting and kind of trying
Speaker 1: to figure out some of these patterns that they might
Speaker 1: be using, that's always that's always a good call. And
Speaker 1: then um, you know, just maybe even doing some stuff
Speaker 1: like think about the stuff that's kind of missing in
Speaker 1: their habitat. So in most Roosevelt Elk country, that's really thick.
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of openings, not a lot of
Speaker 1: feeding areas. They do find food where they can, But
Speaker 1: if you're like, hey, this is a really thick area,
Speaker 1: and then there's one opening, like maybe it's a clear cut,
Speaker 1: Maybe it's something that might be a place to kind
Speaker 1: of focus your attention, so you can kind of narrow
Speaker 1: down the habitat by saying like, Okay, here's a really
Speaker 1: good area. Here's a steep area where they might live,
Speaker 1: and here's a clear cut nearby where they might go
Speaker 1: out and feed, and kind of figuring it out that
Speaker 1: way is a good way and something to look for.
Speaker 1: This question comes from Tyler says, Hey, Remmy Tyler from Spokane.
Speaker 1: Thanks for your insight on hunting in the smoke. This
Speaker 1: will be my first archery elk hunt ever. My neck
Speaker 1: of the woods has been quite smoky, but additionally it's
Speaker 1: been unbearably hot. My question, Shin, is is it a
Speaker 1: good strategy to hunt for elk and canyons that bottom
Speaker 1: out to a creek when it's hot. Do the elk
Speaker 1: like to bed near a water source? And if so,
Speaker 1: what's the best way to hunt those areas? Thanks again
Speaker 1: for lending us your knowledge and making an entertaining podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a great question, Tyler. So yes, the I have
Speaker 1: found elk um Generally, where I find them is like
Speaker 1: in those like you're talking like a creek bottom thing.
Speaker 1: So the best ones are where that creek kind of
Speaker 1: flattens out and creates like little mud puddles, so like
Speaker 1: wallow areas, grassy areas, maybe a little bit of an opening,
Speaker 1: not super open, and then maybe like some steep canyon
Speaker 1: where they've got that ability to be kind of near
Speaker 1: that water source and then maybe some ridge up that
Speaker 1: comes down to it to bed. Generally, what I find
Speaker 1: is like they'll be in and around that, they'll be watering, wallowing, whatever,
Speaker 1: and then oftentimes they'll go up and kind of bed
Speaker 1: up off of it where it's they've got the wind
Speaker 1: coming down at their backs and they can kind of
Speaker 1: see down below. I've had a lot of early hunts
Speaker 1: where i've I've I've kind of run into elk in
Speaker 1: those scenarios. In those places it can be difficult to
Speaker 1: hunt um. I remember this one time I found a
Speaker 1: group of elk was a good bull in there, and
Speaker 1: it was just like I said, like kind of like
Speaker 1: you think like it's just got it's a steep, steep
Speaker 1: draw all the way around. In the bottom, there's this
Speaker 1: one tight area where it's got a lot of timber,
Speaker 1: and then like three or four benches that feed down
Speaker 1: into this spot. And it was just like kind of
Speaker 1: like a little bit of a creek and then mud.
Speaker 1: And I got the wind right and it was hot,
Speaker 1: and so I get down in there and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: I see the bull from ways away. There's like a
Speaker 1: little bit of a burned scar, and he's up on
Speaker 1: the ridge and there's all these cows around, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: sweet dude, So I'm like, I'm gonna sneak in because
Speaker 1: he's just not responding to calls. I get down in
Speaker 1: the bottom and I just like I get that mud
Speaker 1: and I just covered my face and body with this
Speaker 1: like black shiny ud and I'm just like literally crawling
Speaker 1: through the water with the wind in my face, and
Speaker 1: I was crawling past multiple cows like yards just bow
Speaker 1: on my back, army, crawling through this sludge pretty much
Speaker 1: and like trying to stay in the brush and cover
Speaker 1: it up. And UH got to pretty much like eight
Speaker 1: yards from the bowl, and I'm thinking Okay, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna wait for him to move down to me. Um,
Speaker 1: got set up just like waiting, and I crawled past
Speaker 1: probably twenty cows and uh, of course he gets up,
Speaker 1: a bull bugles above him and then he just walks away.
Speaker 1: And that was that was the extent of that stock.
Speaker 1: But I just I always remember that stock is just
Speaker 1: being pretty crazy. How I was able to crawl past
Speaker 1: some cows. Um. I don't think it had anything to
Speaker 1: do with the water, but maybe just like covering myself
Speaker 1: in mud and then I was just freezing and soaking
Speaker 1: wet for the rest of the day. That was before
Speaker 1: I had any good gear. It was just like all
Speaker 1: caught and stuff too. So um, luckily it was it
Speaker 1: was still pretty hot out. Um. But I say that
Speaker 1: to say, like, I think in those scenarios, you know,
Speaker 1: stalking in is a good option. But also I think
Speaker 1: if I was more patient, UM, I probably would have
Speaker 1: gone back in that area a little bit different and
Speaker 1: said like, Okay, they're using this in the mornings and evenings.
Speaker 1: They're probably hitting that water and then just kind of
Speaker 1: setting up, whether it's with a tree stand, whether it's
Speaker 1: with a ground blind. Maybe it's just on the ground
Speaker 1: in a good ambush spot. And then if you if
Speaker 1: you get that opportunity, they're using that cool If not,
Speaker 1: like maybe it's too long of a water source and
Speaker 1: they're changing where they're going, then I would use it
Speaker 1: as maybe some cow calling, like cow calling to potentially
Speaker 1: draw a bull in and or spot in stock. So
Speaker 1: I definitely think that those are good places to check
Speaker 1: out if you if you aren't seeing any sign, you know,
Speaker 1: then you can kind of move to the next one.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be one of those things where it's like
Speaker 1: there's probably a lot of creek bottoms that don't have elk,
Speaker 1: just like anything else, but there are going to be
Speaker 1: the few that do, and those ones that do are
Speaker 1: places that you're gonna want to focus in on. And
Speaker 1: then that might change to as the temperature changes. You know,
Speaker 1: it's only gonna be hot for so long, so you
Speaker 1: might have three or four days where there it's like, man,
Speaker 1: they're patternable, they're doing this, and then kind of the
Speaker 1: weather shifts a little bit and they aren't really doing
Speaker 1: that anymore. And I found that a lot as well.
Speaker 1: But I have gotten into a lot of elk in
Speaker 1: those those kind of scenarios. It seems though that they
Speaker 1: do end up kind of hitting him in the morning
Speaker 1: or the evening or whatever, and then moving up and
Speaker 1: bedding up on benches above it. All Right's next question
Speaker 1: comes from Justin. He says, Hey, Remy, just finish your
Speaker 1: most recent podcast and thought i'd ask a question regarding
Speaker 1: elk hunting because I live in Utah and currently have
Speaker 1: an archery spike or cow tag. He says, I found
Speaker 1: two spikes and watched them feed for about an hour,
Speaker 1: but could never get closer than eighty yards. I eventually
Speaker 1: spooked them. It was curious what the best steps are
Speaker 1: to proceed when trying to hunt elk that have been spooked.
Speaker 1: Any advice would be appreciated. Yeah, that's a good question.
Speaker 1: First off, it depends how they were spooked. If they win,
Speaker 1: did you, um your best just to probably kind of
Speaker 1: like hang back, chill out and rEFInd them. Um. Now,
Speaker 1: if it was like they might have seen you, they
Speaker 1: might have heard something. I always like, I've mentioned it before,
Speaker 1: I always have that call ready and I hit that
Speaker 1: cow call. One thing I've noticed with spikes, like if
Speaker 1: you get in with spikes, they're pretty easy to call
Speaker 1: in using cow calls. So if I have a spike
Speaker 1: tag or something like that, I find a spike, I'll
Speaker 1: get into that whatever yards and then I'll just I'll
Speaker 1: open up some soft cow calling. Oftentimes those spikes will
Speaker 1: just kind of come in quiet to investigate, like, oh, hey,
Speaker 1: let's join up with this group, let's see what's going on.
Speaker 1: The just kind of more out of curiosity. Um. Now.
Speaker 1: Of course, like spot and stalks a great way to
Speaker 1: get in on animals. So if if you you know,
Speaker 1: if you're like, oh, I can definitely sneak in on these,
Speaker 1: it's worth it. But if you maybe think, okay, I
Speaker 1: ran out of cover, maybe don't know where they are.
Speaker 1: I lost them in the bedding, getting back being patient
Speaker 1: and just throwing out a few cow call sequences just
Speaker 1: you know, and then waiting a while and just a
Speaker 1: couple of little bit of cow calls like oh, maybe
Speaker 1: there's some cows over here bedded. Oftentimes they'll get up
Speaker 1: and come check it out. UM. So that's what I do.
Speaker 1: Now if they're um, now, if it's like, hey, they
Speaker 1: ran over the ridge, you know, oftentimes I will pursue
Speaker 1: in some way as long as the winds good or
Speaker 1: get my wind right to make kind of a reapproach.
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of people think elk run
Speaker 1: away and then they're just gone forever, and that's not
Speaker 1: always the case. I have spooked many elk and ended
Speaker 1: up killing them. Um, you know you hate to spook elk,
Speaker 1: but you can often find them again. They don't go
Speaker 1: as far as a lot of people think in my opinion. Okay,
Speaker 1: this question comes from Brandon. He says, hey, man, love
Speaker 1: the podcast. You do a great job. I've got a
Speaker 1: question for you. This is my second year bow hunting
Speaker 1: elk by myself in southern Colorado. Last year was a
Speaker 1: very cool experience, being the first time I could get
Speaker 1: bulls to answer on the cow call and bugle, but
Speaker 1: feel like a rushed uh walked into both opportunities that
Speaker 1: I had and busted it both times I had groups
Speaker 1: of cows with them. I guess my question is is
Speaker 1: it better to try to advance on the elk talking
Speaker 1: back or sit and wait for him to come to you.
Speaker 1: Thanks in advanced percent of the time, I would say
Speaker 1: is better to advance. Now, I think the failure wasn't
Speaker 1: in advancing, it was just in the way that you advanced.
Speaker 1: So you kind of have to assume that when an
Speaker 1: elk is calling, he's got other cows with him. Um.
Speaker 1: And that's you know, what I generally do, unless I
Speaker 1: see that it's alanable, I'm always assuming that that cow
Speaker 1: has multiple sets of eyes. Now, when you're moving in,
Speaker 1: it's one thing like you, it's the way that you
Speaker 1: move in. Um. Obviously you're you know, you're getting in
Speaker 1: the wind right, but you're having your head up on
Speaker 1: a swivel looking around like I kind of take it
Speaker 1: as like I'm still hunting and stalking in on this
Speaker 1: animal that's making noise. And over time you'll learn that
Speaker 1: you can do that pretty quick and what you can
Speaker 1: get away with and what you can't. Now, let's say
Speaker 1: you get in and you've got that call ready, a
Speaker 1: cow spots you. You hit that call and you kind
Speaker 1: of freeze, you know, and you wait for that cow
Speaker 1: to calm down, and then you can back out or
Speaker 1: move around. But you always want to kind of have
Speaker 1: your head on a swivel and be expecting that there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of things looking out for you. UM.
Speaker 1: But you know, if you if you always sit back
Speaker 1: and wait and you don't know what the scenario is
Speaker 1: whether that bull has cows or not, then you're probably
Speaker 1: going to be sitting and waiting for a long time.
Speaker 1: You might add, you know, something like a different elk
Speaker 1: might come in or whatever. But if you're a long
Speaker 1: ways away and that bowls calling and you're calling, um,
Speaker 1: it's very unlikely that bowl is just gonna walk to you.
Speaker 1: It does happen. I've had it happen, but it's not
Speaker 1: not the norm. If you want to be consistent in
Speaker 1: calling in and killing elk, you have to get within
Speaker 1: their kind of comfort zone, and you have to incite
Speaker 1: them and give them a reason to come to you.
Speaker 1: And so that means you got to go to them.
Speaker 1: And that's that's the way that I play it, all right.
Speaker 1: This question comes from Ellen says, any tips for altitude
Speaker 1: sickness prevention? Well, elk hunting coming from near sea level
Speaker 1: in California. Yeah, I've said this multiple times in different
Speaker 1: q and a s. But I think it's always worth mentioning.
Speaker 1: I mean what I do. I I'm fortunate I live
Speaker 1: a fairly high elevation, but I even do this when
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know it's going to be a tough hunt.
Speaker 1: I use wilderness athlete altitude advantage. It's um, I mean
Speaker 1: I swear by it. I mean it's like I've had
Speaker 1: friends that come from sea level hunting in ten thousand
Speaker 1: foot mountains. I'm like, here, you use this. And what
Speaker 1: I do is so I pregame with it. I take
Speaker 1: like two pills the first five days before I go. Um,
Speaker 1: it's just it's a natural vitamin. There's natural stuff in there.
Speaker 1: What it does is it just increases your body's a bill.
Speaker 1: It's almost like a I don't know, I guess it's
Speaker 1: like legal blood doping. I feel like like it's just
Speaker 1: like my secret weapon. UM. But it seems to be
Speaker 1: more of like a vasodilator where it's like it just
Speaker 1: allows your blood to process that oxygen a little bit better. UM.
Speaker 1: And one thing like altitude sickness is serious and it
Speaker 1: can happen. It doesn't have to happen. It's super high elevations.
Speaker 1: Especially if you're like you get out there and then
Speaker 1: you start hunting hard, you do want to try to
Speaker 1: like if you got to the acclamation, this is really
Speaker 1: hard because it takes a lot longer than people think. UM,
Speaker 1: but you'll notice, like generally if you come from sea
Speaker 1: level and you're hunting maybe six seven thousand foot mountains,
Speaker 1: You're you're gonna be fine after a few days. Your
Speaker 1: body just kind of gets used to it. But I
Speaker 1: use that altitude advantage, so I kind of pre game
Speaker 1: with it, and then when I go into high mountains,
Speaker 1: then I, uh, I take it on the hunt with me,
Speaker 1: So I put them in a baggy and then just
Speaker 1: take two to four per day when I'm hunting glast
Speaker 1: backpack hunt. I did that on I mean I've gone
Speaker 1: even like um mountains, you know, fourteen plus you know,
Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen thousand foot mountains in Central Asia and used
Speaker 1: it and had no problems and I didn't personally see
Speaker 1: any like major lag and performance um. So that's one
Speaker 1: of the reasons that I swear by it. Like I've
Speaker 1: had like prescription for diamox, which is you know, if
Speaker 1: you get pulmonary a demon and things like that, like
Speaker 1: something you'd take and or you can even take just
Speaker 1: for effects of altitude sickness, but it's not it's more
Speaker 1: of a medicine, not like a prevention. And everybody that's
Speaker 1: been on the trips with me, I've recommended it and
Speaker 1: seen like nothing but really good performance out of it. So, um,
Speaker 1: since I've started using that and recommending it to people
Speaker 1: that have used it, like we've seen the amount of
Speaker 1: altitude sickness that hunters, like whether we're guiding or whatever
Speaker 1: encounter go way down. Just my personal case study, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's just the only thing that I've
Speaker 1: tried that seems to actually work. So I think it's
Speaker 1: pretty awesome. And that's why I kind of like promoted
Speaker 1: all the time because it's something that I actually believe
Speaker 1: in and I've seen work with guys that I've taken
Speaker 1: out go from sea level to ten thousand plus feet,
Speaker 1: and like we used to see a lot altitude sickness
Speaker 1: and now it's kind of cut down a lot just
Speaker 1: by following that regiment. So that's that's my recommendation. Then
Speaker 1: of course you can do any kind of like back.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, now everybody's wearing masks, who
Speaker 1: probably everybody's ready for like altitude now I just doing
Speaker 1: stuff with masks on. But um, I have used those
Speaker 1: train eating masks before in the past. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know if it helps. I mean, in some ways
Speaker 1: it probably does, but you know, just being in shape.
Speaker 1: And then the other thing is like altitude sickness isn't
Speaker 1: just about the air, but it's also about just like
Speaker 1: you've got to keep your body in that in good condition,
Speaker 1: and that means being well hydrated, like using um water supplements,
Speaker 1: so you've got enough electrolytes, Like you don't want your
Speaker 1: body to start failing because you don't have enough food,
Speaker 1: you don't have enough water. UM that's generally what happens.
Speaker 1: Is like it seems like the bigger, older guys like
Speaker 1: generally get altitude sickness less than the guys that are
Speaker 1: really in shape, because the guys are really in shape, Like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna charge up the mountain. It's like I'm
Speaker 1: charging up the mountain. I'm doing my things like I
Speaker 1: normally do. I'm not drinking any water. I hardly had
Speaker 1: any snacks. Day two, I feel like crap. And it's
Speaker 1: because your body is just overworked and and under um
Speaker 1: an underfed. So that's something you want to think about
Speaker 1: as well. The question says, I've been enjoying the podcast
Speaker 1: for helpfull of years now, always loads of info for
Speaker 1: my first time venturing into the Elk Woods. We're heading
Speaker 1: into southwest Colorado. My question is how do you handle
Speaker 1: pressure from other hunters? How much does this change how
Speaker 1: you hunt a certain area. Do you try and anticipate
Speaker 1: where the hunters will push the elk or stick to
Speaker 1: the staples? Example, a nice north facing benches, but seems
Speaker 1: like they're easily accessible. It could be the first place
Speaker 1: hunters try to target or go to. The south facing
Speaker 1: benches is thicker timber, but could be a good hiding
Speaker 1: place for elk to get away from the pressure. Ryan
Speaker 1: from St. Pete, Florida. That's a good Uh, that's a
Speaker 1: good question. A lot of places that I've hunted, I'll
Speaker 1: have a lot of hunters and that's just kind of
Speaker 1: part of the game. Um, I kind of do a
Speaker 1: few different things. So the first thing that I consider is, well,
Speaker 1: one thing is I mean me personally, when I see
Speaker 1: other hunters, I generally don't get worried because I know
Speaker 1: that of large majority of those hunters don't know what
Speaker 1: they're doing, and so I can kind of play to that.
Speaker 1: Like there's been times where I've walked down a trail,
Speaker 1: guys kept like walking up a trail, guys coming down like, man,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything I get up to the knob
Speaker 1: and I spot a dozen elk, you know, And so
Speaker 1: it's like one of those things where you see hunters,
Speaker 1: but that you can't always assume that those hunters know
Speaker 1: what you know or have even like looked for elk,
Speaker 1: Like maybe they're just walking around with their head down.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know what people do out there, but um,
Speaker 1: I have encountered that more often than not, where you
Speaker 1: run into a hunter and it's like it didn't actually
Speaker 1: make a difference. It's big country, their animals are constantly moving,
Speaker 1: and so sometimes it doesn't make a difference. Now there
Speaker 1: are times where it definitely does, like people bumping into
Speaker 1: the same Like you say, they're going to those easy
Speaker 1: south bases or whatever. So I'd say and something like that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you aren't the first person up on that bench,
Speaker 1: then you're probably not gonna be the first person to
Speaker 1: run into those elk. They're gonna get bumped and they're
Speaker 1: gonna get moved, and they're probably gonna go into the timber,
Speaker 1: in which case, after that then I would probably start
Speaker 1: focusing on a little bit thicker timber, and then in
Speaker 1: the mornings and evenings i'd be set up glassing, and
Speaker 1: that just how I would play it, um, and I
Speaker 1: think that you'll find success that way. But also one
Speaker 1: thing is, you know, hunting seasons, there are other hunters
Speaker 1: out there. It's part of the game. But I wouldn't
Speaker 1: necessarily let it discourage you from thinking that you aren't
Speaker 1: going to find any elk because people find elk and
Speaker 1: and animals do get moved around a lot like it's
Speaker 1: actually sometimes there's been days the busier days sometimes you
Speaker 1: actually see more elk because they are getting moved, they
Speaker 1: are getting pushed, they're getting kind of shuffled around. I
Speaker 1: hate hunting elk that are just moving elk like they're
Speaker 1: just in that um I don't even know, like a
Speaker 1: panic pattern where it's like they're just in survival mode
Speaker 1: and they're making their rounds. It's a much better to
Speaker 1: hunt elk they're acting as elk unpressured. But that's not
Speaker 1: always the case. So I know, if you go back,
Speaker 1: I did uh an older podcast. I can't remember that
Speaker 1: I can scroll through here, but UM called it like
Speaker 1: the pumpkin patch something like that, just hunting high pressured areas,
Speaker 1: and that's a good one to kind of think about.
Speaker 1: And there's a few good tactics in there, so I've
Speaker 1: done a little bit everything. Sometimes hunters work for your advantage,
Speaker 1: especially it's like, hey, you know, there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: bunch of guys that are whatever, and maybe they're coming
Speaker 1: up later and you get up real early, you get
Speaker 1: to the top, maybe there's a good saddle where the
Speaker 1: elk are kind of funneling, potentially funneling through. Using people
Speaker 1: to push animals to you definitely works as well. So
Speaker 1: there's a lot of different tactics. But also I would
Speaker 1: say keep in your mind that just because you see
Speaker 1: someone doesn't mean anything, especially if it's on a road
Speaker 1: or right at the first part of a trail or
Speaker 1: something like that. Like you just have to keep going
Speaker 1: because there's I can't even count the amount of times
Speaker 1: that I've run into hunters and then seeing animals that
Speaker 1: I'm looking for. Things get missed, things get moved around.
Speaker 1: So it's not necessarily um that big of a deal.
Speaker 1: Question comes from Chris. He says Aeromy Love the podcast.
Speaker 1: I've learned a ton of really appreciate your hard work.
Speaker 1: I'll be taking my son out for the first time
Speaker 1: on an elk hunt this year, and I wonder if
Speaker 1: you have any tips for making it fun experience so
Speaker 1: he wants to come back in the future. I don't
Speaker 1: mind grinding it out for nine or ten days, but
Speaker 1: don't think he's going to be ready to stick it
Speaker 1: out that long. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. Keep
Speaker 1: up the great work, and don't stick to one sign
Speaker 1: off a new one every week is always fun to hear.
Speaker 1: Hope you take my question because I'm sure there's lots
Speaker 1: of other dads out there that want to get their
Speaker 1: kids out in the field. That's a good crisp. That's
Speaker 1: a good question, Chris. Uh. You know, like I mean,
Speaker 1: I've I've encountered this not only as a guide, but
Speaker 1: I take a lot of kids and new hunters out
Speaker 1: even just whether it's a kid or a new hunter
Speaker 1: or whatever. Um. I always kind of like think back
Speaker 1: to the way that my dad got me into it. Now,
Speaker 1: I was a special case, Like I think I was
Speaker 1: ready to grind it out for nine or ten days
Speaker 1: when I was a kid. My dad was probably like
Speaker 1: Jesus kid, you know, just is relentless. Um. But I
Speaker 1: think one of the things that's really important is involving
Speaker 1: the people that are with you. Like, if you's somebody
Speaker 1: that you want to get into hunting and you want
Speaker 1: them to enjoy the experience, then they kind of have
Speaker 1: to have a little bit of skin in the game,
Speaker 1: like let them make some decisions. Um, you you can
Speaker 1: go over some spots and say, hey, okay, so here's
Speaker 1: a couple of things. I'm thinking. We could go to
Speaker 1: the top of the mountain here and look in glass
Speaker 1: this spot, or we could maybe go to this other place.
Speaker 1: Like let them be a part of the experience, not
Speaker 1: just following along. I know, success and whatever is awesome
Speaker 1: and it's great and you will find that, um and
Speaker 1: you know, being successful is fun for everyone, you know,
Speaker 1: and that's the whole point of going out. But also
Speaker 1: there's those other things of like you know, just involving
Speaker 1: them in the process of making it fun, but also
Speaker 1: giving them like some responsibility, because I think when you're
Speaker 1: kind of invested, you're like, hey, I picked the spot,
Speaker 1: Hey I spotted something. I've got my binoculars and I
Speaker 1: get to look and maybe he's got a little hoochie
Speaker 1: mama type called like a push button call that gets
Speaker 1: to use and it's like, you know, involving them in
Speaker 1: the hunt where it's not just them following you around,
Speaker 1: but kind of them getting a good portion of experience
Speaker 1: just making some decisions and and kind of helping you
Speaker 1: and then explaining the things that you're doing and why
Speaker 1: you're doing them, and and just like being positive and
Speaker 1: really just enjoying that experience, because when it comes down
Speaker 1: to it, we're out there for a lot of reasons
Speaker 1: and having a good time bringing someone else into it. Like,
Speaker 1: I think some of those experiences of just being out
Speaker 1: with your kid, out with you know, him out with you,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be that's gonna be something that you remember
Speaker 1: forever and what one of the reasons that we go
Speaker 1: out and we do this, And it's really cool to
Speaker 1: be able to bring family and friends into it. So
Speaker 1: I think that that's a good way or a good
Speaker 1: thing to think about, is involving them in the process
Speaker 1: and then um and then you know, like and then
Speaker 1: also just kind of going at their pace. You know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be the most grueling, brutal hunt
Speaker 1: you've ever been on. Maybe it's maybe sometimes it's just
Speaker 1: you know, it's like, Okay, we hiked in retired. Maybe
Speaker 1: you drive to a glassing knob and take out the
Speaker 1: glass and glass for an hour and have some really
Speaker 1: good snacks and and just enjoy your time together because
Speaker 1: there's so much to hunting, and I think you just
Speaker 1: gotta you really gotta pay attention to those little moments
Speaker 1: and those little things that you can do to make
Speaker 1: it fun. Yeah, and have good snacks. That's also that's
Speaker 1: also the top of the list. New hunters love great snacks.
Speaker 1: So I actually got quite a few questions on this
Speaker 1: similar topic, quite a few people from Canada maybe hunting
Speaker 1: more prairie lands or some private areas, and then um,
Speaker 1: you know, just quite a few people just asking some
Speaker 1: similar things about elk tactics, maybe in some smaller plots
Speaker 1: of land. So this this question comes from fedra. It says, Hey,
Speaker 1: remmy first time, long time I drew a small plot
Speaker 1: private property elk hunt in prime of the September. They're
Speaker 1: managing a high elk population, but I'm only allowed on acres.
Speaker 1: Do you have any tips for small acreage elk hunting things?
Speaker 1: So that's a great question, you know, there I have
Speaker 1: had some opportunities to hunt some more smaller areas and
Speaker 1: also sometimes all even public land areas that are right
Speaker 1: on the fringe of private property. So maybe you're hunting
Speaker 1: near private and you've got to three acres where the
Speaker 1: elk come off and they use this particular area and
Speaker 1: then they get blasted right into private property. Same as
Speaker 1: if you've got a small track of private land, some
Speaker 1: of the tactics that you're gonna use are going to
Speaker 1: be a little bit different because what you're trying not
Speaker 1: to do is pressure those animals somewhere else. Now, it
Speaker 1: also depends on the type of area that you're hunting.
Speaker 1: Maybe there's something on that property that it's like it's
Speaker 1: a magnet to the elk, Like if it's the only
Speaker 1: if that fifty acres is the only alph alpha pivot
Speaker 1: in the entire area, there's gonna be elk on their
Speaker 1: day and night no matter what. Um. It's just like
Speaker 1: they like the feed there, they're gonna keep moving in.
Speaker 1: But you also aren't gonna want to just run them
Speaker 1: around and kind of push them so much. So in
Speaker 1: those particular instances, what you're gonna want to do is
Speaker 1: is try to kind of take a more less aggressive approach.
Speaker 1: I would say my hunting style for elk is quite
Speaker 1: aggressive in most places, but when it's an area like that,
Speaker 1: then I kind of i'd be a little more patient.
Speaker 1: I find those opportunities where it's like a high success opportunity.
Speaker 1: So maybe, And it doesn't even mean that you have
Speaker 1: to sit and wait, Like acres doesn't seem like a
Speaker 1: lot when you could travel around a lot of elk
Speaker 1: country other places, but it also has plenty of country
Speaker 1: to kind of hold elk and and have a hunt. Um.
Speaker 1: So a couple of things that I think about, Like
Speaker 1: let's say you're calling and you want to hunt a
Speaker 1: bull that's fired up. You know, I would kind of wait,
Speaker 1: like so I would call bugle and I wouldn't go
Speaker 1: like in a normal hunt, I maybe would chase chase
Speaker 1: certain bugles. In that particular instance, I would wait until
Speaker 1: the bulls super fired up, and I'd be ready kind
Speaker 1: of in the position and try to pattern the animals
Speaker 1: of like, Okay, here's the meadow or the area that
Speaker 1: they like, or maybe they're just passing through, kind of
Speaker 1: like figure out the ebb and flow of the area
Speaker 1: that you're hunting. I've done this many times where it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: there's a spot that I'm hunting near private and and
Speaker 1: I could go in there and chase every bugle, or
Speaker 1: I could wait until I've got three days and I
Speaker 1: can wait until that bull is really fired up and
Speaker 1: I can probably call them in um. So that's one
Speaker 1: thing that I think about, is is using the tactic
Speaker 1: that's most likely to gain success. Now. Another thought is
Speaker 1: like find the wallows, find the feeding areas, even potentially
Speaker 1: use decoy or set up an ambush in travel areas,
Speaker 1: like maybe there's a good trail that they're using. They're
Speaker 1: coming onto the property, they're feeding, they're moving around, like
Speaker 1: you can you can kind of still hunt that or
Speaker 1: be set up in the mornings and the evenings and
Speaker 1: places that they frequent. So it's like the elk are
Speaker 1: kind of moving towards you, and you can kind of
Speaker 1: stalk in towards them. So using those kind of tactics
Speaker 1: where you're you're using a little bit of patients and
Speaker 1: kind of playing that chess game of Okay, here's a
Speaker 1: really high percentage opportunity now is when I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: And then those really low percentage opportunities maybe when the
Speaker 1: animals are right on the corner and they're moving away
Speaker 1: not necessarily like or the winds bad like taking your
Speaker 1: time and picking those really high percentage opportunities is a
Speaker 1: great way to kind of hunt smaller parcels or pieces
Speaker 1: of property. All Right, This next question comes from Dan Dotson.
Speaker 1: He says, do you put any emphasis on moon phase? Example,
Speaker 1: if I only had one week to hunt elk, would
Speaker 1: that factor into your planning on when to go to
Speaker 1: give yourself the best opportunity. That's a really good question.
Speaker 1: I actually was doing the Vortex podcast they did like
Speaker 1: at elk Q and A this week and um, and
Speaker 1: that was one of the questions that I, uh, I
Speaker 1: definitely put a lot of time into. And I'll kind
Speaker 1: of paraphrase some of the things that I said, but
Speaker 1: one of those was, um, the moon absolutely plays a
Speaker 1: factor in elk hunting and the amount of elk activity
Speaker 1: during the day. Now, there's people that go, oh, well
Speaker 1: the moon that like, you gotta understand what that moon means.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's It's not a factor of it
Speaker 1: being a full moon. Like the fact of the moon
Speaker 1: and it's shape and size and whatever doesn't necessarily play
Speaker 1: into it. What it is is the amount of light
Speaker 1: that that moon can admit at night. So you got
Speaker 1: to think about elk and the way that they're running
Speaker 1: and if it's hot out, Like a lot of it
Speaker 1: has to do with weather and temperature. So if you've
Speaker 1: got a cold snap in the and the middle of
Speaker 1: the rut, right, they're gonna be in like, say, no moon,
Speaker 1: They're gonna be running and making noise and doing all
Speaker 1: their business during the day because it's safer. They can't
Speaker 1: really see too much at night and it's cool. Now,
Speaker 1: if you think about a week where it's a full moon, right,
Speaker 1: and maybe you've got warmer weather, so they're gonna be like,
Speaker 1: it's warm out, But what happens at nighttime? Temperatures drop,
Speaker 1: like when you're in the mountains nighttime, even if it's
Speaker 1: a hundred degrees in the middle of the day, it's
Speaker 1: going to be pretty cool at night. So it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be running around chasing cows. Let's do it
Speaker 1: when it's cool. Oh and hey, the moon's out so
Speaker 1: we can see perfect. That's a great time to run
Speaker 1: around and do all our running. And then what's going
Speaker 1: to happen is during the mornings and evenings, they're gonna
Speaker 1: be pretty quiet. They're gonna be kind of war out
Speaker 1: they're gonna have have kind of done their thing. Now,
Speaker 1: I say that to say, if it's a full moon
Speaker 1: and it's cloudy out, you don't have that light, you
Speaker 1: don't have the same amount of light, so it's not
Speaker 1: going to be the same as a full moon, clear night.
Speaker 1: So the moon does play a factor, but it also
Speaker 1: kind of plays into temperature and other things. So as
Speaker 1: a guide, I hunt every day of the elk season
Speaker 1: ten weeks archery through rifle. It doesn't matter the moon phase,
Speaker 1: the whatever. We hunt every week, and I would say
Speaker 1: over the years we have kind of generally the same success.
Speaker 1: But I will say that during full moon's, when it's
Speaker 1: clear out, it's way harder to find elk. It's or
Speaker 1: at least just get encounters an interaction. It's like those
Speaker 1: times where I mean you might even see it, you
Speaker 1: might pack into an area, you don't hear any bugles
Speaker 1: in the daytime, and then at night you're just hearing
Speaker 1: screams all over the place. So I think that the
Speaker 1: moon does play a factor. Now here's the caveat to
Speaker 1: that is, like, you know, sometimes that full moon just
Speaker 1: lands in a crappy time peak up like right in
Speaker 1: the middle of September. So guys are like, well, I'll
Speaker 1: go hunt the moon phase. I'll go hunt the first
Speaker 1: week of September. Well, if it's smoky and hot, you
Speaker 1: are way better off hunting a full moon during a
Speaker 1: better week when you might get better weather than hunting
Speaker 1: earlier with no moon. Now, on the flip side of that,
Speaker 1: you might get no moon early and have cool weather.
Speaker 1: Then that's a great time to hunt because some of
Speaker 1: the bowls will be split off on their own, they
Speaker 1: might be more receptive to coming into calls. So, yes,
Speaker 1: moon plays a huge factor in my planning, but I
Speaker 1: also look at other things as well. If that makes sense, um,
Speaker 1: I maybe it would just have to do like a
Speaker 1: full podcast on all fifty thousand scenarios and give you
Speaker 1: like a good matrix of of how to break it out.
Speaker 1: But I think that's an incredible question and definitely something
Speaker 1: you want to think about. I appreciate all the questions.
Speaker 1: This month, I'm going to focus a lot of our
Speaker 1: podcast topics on elk and elk hunting, and if you've
Speaker 1: got more questions or whatever, feel free to always shoot those.
Speaker 1: Over the next couple of weeks, you know, we'll talk
Speaker 1: about some calling stuff, some focusing on maybe some spot
Speaker 1: in stock. That's one of the probably one of the
Speaker 1: best tactics for Big Bowls would be sneaking in whether
Speaker 1: it's rut or not. I'll kind of break down some
Speaker 1: spot in stock ELK tactics and then some other tactics
Speaker 1: that should help put you in the tag not ching category.
Speaker 1: Did I say that right? Tag notchng it's notching even
Speaker 1: a word we don't know, but cutting a tag category.
Speaker 1: There we go. That's you win in doubt on Cutting
Speaker 1: the Distance podcast, I just throw the word cutting in
Speaker 1: and it just makes things like yeah, like real, real awesome.
Speaker 1: But um, I'm excited to hear from you guys. I
Speaker 1: love hearing all the success stories. Make sure just shoot
Speaker 1: me some pictures and whatever. I'm gonna continually be putting
Speaker 1: up older videos and new videos on my YouTube channel,
Speaker 1: so you can kind of check those out Instagram and whatever.
Speaker 1: I'll have some some hunts. You can kind of follow
Speaker 1: along on my hunts, and then that's where I do
Speaker 1: a lot of the Q and A answers. So if
Speaker 1: you're listening to the podcast, you're like, how do I
Speaker 1: ask a question? Send it your message to me at
Speaker 1: Remy Warren and then as I'm throughout the season, I
Speaker 1: just screenshot those and read them off on the podcast.
Speaker 1: So that's that's the way that's done. I really appreciate everybody.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for the ratings and listening
Speaker 1: and sharing it with your friends that I really appreciate that.
Speaker 1: And actually looked through and see some awesome, awesome comments
Speaker 1: here we got some read a couple of these comments
Speaker 1: five star comments. Great podcast, keep up the great work,
Speaker 1: great podcast. Thanks for all the info. Some of these
Speaker 1: names are so long. Here's one. Um. Joe Hunter Fisher says,
Speaker 1: top notch information content. The info, tactics and advice in
Speaker 1: these podcasts are large really responsible for helping me take
Speaker 1: my first white tail last fall. Not only was it
Speaker 1: my first, but it was on a small pressured public land.
Speaker 1: Really can't think you enough. Keep up the great work.
Speaker 1: Those are the kind of comments I love to see
Speaker 1: guys that are getting out finding some success using some
Speaker 1: of the tactics. Um. Here's the one from McDuffie boy.
Speaker 1: He says, practical, practical, practical, not just dudes hanging how
Speaker 1: talking about hunting? Uh, here's a podcast that teaches you
Speaker 1: how to be a better hunter. Great podcast, remy Ah,
Speaker 1: you're filling You filled a gaping hole in the hunting
Speaker 1: podcast world. You're a great host, humble and friendly. I
Speaker 1: like listening to you. Keep it up. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate all these kind of comments. UM it
Speaker 1: means a lot to me, So thank you guys so much.
Speaker 1: And until next week, bust those bugles out and make
Speaker 1: sure to stay in touch. I can't wait to hear
Speaker 1: your guys this season. I'll share my season, you share
Speaker 1: your season. We'll all do this hunting thing together. Catch
Speaker 1: you guys later.