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Speaker 1: As a guide and hunter, I've spent thousands of days

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Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard

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Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics they'll get you closer

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Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren.

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Speaker 1: This is cutting the Distance. Welcome back to the podcast everyone.

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Speaker 1: It is now one of the best months of the year. September,

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Speaker 1: the Elk Rut will be kicking off. If you've got

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Speaker 1: an archery elk tag, this is a great time. If

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Speaker 1: you're just dreaming about having an archeryalk tag, well, it's

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Speaker 1: also a great time because there's gonna be a lot

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Speaker 1: of elk hunting content. Don't prepare you for whenever you

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Speaker 1: hit the mountains, hit the trail and get out and

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Speaker 1: chase them. And a lot of these tactics that I

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Speaker 1: talked about for archery season can kind of relate into

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Speaker 1: other tactics as well throughout the season. Some rifles, stuf

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Speaker 1: often things maybe not necessarily a calling, but a lot

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Speaker 1: of elk behavior things that you can pick up. So

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited about that. To kick off September, I

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Speaker 1: say we're gonna go to the mail sack. I got

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Speaker 1: a lot of great questions about archery, l hunting, elk

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Speaker 1: hunting in general, some of the previous podcasts. So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna jump right in and head to your questions. This

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Speaker 1: first question comes from Chris. He says you mentioned still

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Speaker 1: hunting when it's slow for archery elk. Just wondering if

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Speaker 1: you are in the zone, I mean as in it

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Speaker 1: stinks not just like p but you can smell the

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Speaker 1: actual elk itself. Are you knocking an arrow and release

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Speaker 1: on the string basically ready to shoot as you painstakingly

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Speaker 1: creep a hundred yards every ten to twenty minutes kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff, or are you prepping for the shot once

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Speaker 1: the shot is present. It seems like I never have

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Speaker 1: more than point five seconds to shoot, regardless of how

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Speaker 1: slow I'm moving, never have gotten a good shot. Still

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Speaker 1: hunting elk in the timber uh, He says, I could

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Speaker 1: have taken cows like that before, I guess, but never

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Speaker 1: a bowl. Also, if the bull has cows the house,

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Speaker 1: always see me first. Um, So just curious on your tactic.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Christom Bido. That's a good question, Chris. Yeah, when

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Speaker 1: I'm when I'm in the zone, like if I get

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Speaker 1: of creep through here. I do a couple of things

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Speaker 1: to prepare. I always have my call in my mouth

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Speaker 1: uh step one um, and I do that. You know,

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Speaker 1: if I if it's an area where I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm just kind of cruising through, it could be a

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Speaker 1: good spot, but I'm not quite certain that it's it's

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Speaker 1: the right spot. I have that call in my mouth.

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Speaker 1: The reason that is is because that could give me

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Speaker 1: if I see an elk that maybe sees me, I

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Speaker 1: might think, oh, it's just another cow walking around. I'll

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Speaker 1: make a mirror cow sound. Or even sometimes if you

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Speaker 1: go in and and you happen to blow something out,

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Speaker 1: elk that's spooped. Now, if it's a big herd and

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Speaker 1: the string and um, and I'm creeping through now. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: you know people would be like, oh, that's not safe whatever,

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Speaker 1: in one hand and I have that arrow on the string.

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Speaker 1: Because the amount of time that it takes to do

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Speaker 1: And sometimes you'll do that and it might get that

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Speaker 1: got up, that elks staring at you, you make a

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Speaker 1: So that's what I do when I'm still hunting through

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Speaker 1: Keep it going early season Elk Hunting. Will you stay

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Speaker 1: know everybody's kind of got their own method and style hunting.

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Speaker 1: Mine is you can't kill them from camp, so I'm

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Speaker 1: how I hunt. Uh, And I'm and I personally can't

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Speaker 1: thing is if it's more open country, glassing mid day

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Speaker 1: like if I don't know where the elk are hunting stuff.

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Speaker 1: Remy uh Ryan from tor in Wyoming. I was listening

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Speaker 1: had a question for you. The area we have elk

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Speaker 1: year and had a big wildfire last year. Would it

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Speaker 1: it recover. Do you have any tips for hunting the burn. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a really good question. I mean, hunting burns and

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Speaker 1: really successful. Um. A couple of things that I like

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Speaker 1: year that fire burned. Was it like really late in

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Speaker 1: last year, yes, you'll definitely still find elk in there.

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Speaker 1: I have found elk uh the year after fire many

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Speaker 1: what you're looking for is you're looking for places where

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Speaker 1: it burned patchy, so like there's a burn and then

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Speaker 1: that was really thick in here. You can now glass

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Speaker 1: One of the places that I'm hunting. It's a tag

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Speaker 1: that I haven't actually hunted before, but there's a recent

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Speaker 1: burn in there very similar to this, and that's something

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Speaker 1: on my list where I'm going to check out, just

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Speaker 1: checking out the fringes of that burn map and trying

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Speaker 1: might find that you turn up quite a few elk

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Speaker 1: find elk before the fire. So definitely worth checking out.

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Speaker 1: As the years progress, it will get better and better.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, Um, a couple of years later, it'll

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Speaker 1: start kind of peeking and then you know, and then

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Speaker 1: you'll see even after later on five plus years down

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Speaker 1: increased populations from that burn. So fires are not always

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Speaker 1: if you're like, oh, I can definitely sneak in on these,

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Speaker 1: it's worth it. But if you maybe think, okay, I

427
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,160
Speaker 1: ran out of cover, maybe don't know where they are.

428
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 1: I lost them in the bedding, getting back being patient

429
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,159
Speaker 1: and just throwing out a few cow call sequences just

430
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,119
Speaker 1: you know, and then waiting a while and just a

431
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 1: couple of little bit of cow calls like oh, maybe

432
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 1: there's some cows over here bedded. Oftentimes they'll get up

433
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,159
Speaker 1: and come check it out. UM. So that's what I do.

434
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Speaker 1: Now if they're um, now, if it's like, hey, they

435
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 1: ran over the ridge, you know, oftentimes I will pursue

436
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 1: in some way as long as the winds good or

437
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,440
Speaker 1: get my wind right to make kind of a reapproach.

438
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of people think elk run

439
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 1: away and then they're just gone forever, and that's not

440
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 1: always the case. I have spooked many elk and ended

441
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 1: up killing them. Um, you know you hate to spook elk,

442
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 1: but you can often find them again. They don't go

443
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 1: as far as a lot of people think in my opinion. Okay,

444
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 1: this question comes from Brandon. He says, hey, man, love

445
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 1: the podcast. You do a great job. I've got a

446
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 1: question for you. This is my second year bow hunting

447
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 1: elk by myself in southern Colorado. Last year was a

448
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 1: very cool experience, being the first time I could get

449
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 1: bulls to answer on the cow call and bugle, but

450
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: feel like a rushed uh walked into both opportunities that

451
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 1: I had and busted it both times I had groups

452
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 1: of cows with them. I guess my question is is

453
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 1: it better to try to advance on the elk talking

454
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 1: back or sit and wait for him to come to you.

455
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 1: Thanks in advanced percent of the time, I would say

456
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: is better to advance. Now, I think the failure wasn't

457
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: in advancing, it was just in the way that you advanced.

458
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 1: So you kind of have to assume that when an

459
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 1: elk is calling, he's got other cows with him. Um.

460
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: And that's you know, what I generally do, unless I

461
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 1: see that it's alanable, I'm always assuming that that cow

462
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: has multiple sets of eyes. Now, when you're moving in,

463
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 1: it's one thing like you, it's the way that you

464
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 1: move in. Um. Obviously you're you know, you're getting in

465
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 1: the wind right, but you're having your head up on

466
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 1: a swivel looking around like I kind of take it

467
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: as like I'm still hunting and stalking in on this

468
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: animal that's making noise. And over time you'll learn that

469
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: you can do that pretty quick and what you can

470
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Speaker 1: get away with and what you can't. Now, let's say

471
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Speaker 1: you get in and you've got that call ready, a

472
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 1: cow spots you. You hit that call and you kind

473
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 1: of freeze, you know, and you wait for that cow

474
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: to calm down, and then you can back out or

475
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,199
Speaker 1: move around. But you always want to kind of have

476
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Speaker 1: your head on a swivel and be expecting that there's

477
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of things looking out for you. UM.

478
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: But you know, if you if you always sit back

479
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: and wait and you don't know what the scenario is

480
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: whether that bull has cows or not, then you're probably

481
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: going to be sitting and waiting for a long time.

482
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: You might add, you know, something like a different elk

483
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: might come in or whatever. But if you're a long

484
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 1: ways away and that bowls calling and you're calling, um,

485
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: it's very unlikely that bowl is just gonna walk to you.

486
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: It does happen. I've had it happen, but it's not

487
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: not the norm. If you want to be consistent in

488
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 1: calling in and killing elk, you have to get within

489
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: their kind of comfort zone, and you have to incite

490
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 1: them and give them a reason to come to you.

491
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 1: And so that means you got to go to them.

492
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: And that's that's the way that I play it, all right.

493
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Speaker 1: This question comes from Ellen says, any tips for altitude

494
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Speaker 1: sickness prevention? Well, elk hunting coming from near sea level

495
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: in California. Yeah, I've said this multiple times in different

496
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: q and a s. But I think it's always worth mentioning.

497
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Speaker 1: I mean what I do. I I'm fortunate I live

498
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: a fairly high elevation, but I even do this when

499
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know it's going to be a tough hunt.

500
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: I use wilderness athlete altitude advantage. It's um, I mean

501
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: I swear by it. I mean it's like I've had

502
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 1: friends that come from sea level hunting in ten thousand

503
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 1: foot mountains. I'm like, here, you use this. And what

504
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 1: I do is so I pregame with it. I take

505
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: like two pills the first five days before I go. Um,

506
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 1: it's just it's a natural vitamin. There's natural stuff in there.

507
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: What it does is it just increases your body's a bill.

508
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: It's almost like a I don't know, I guess it's

509
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 1: like legal blood doping. I feel like like it's just

510
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: like my secret weapon. UM. But it seems to be

511
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: more of like a vasodilator where it's like it just

512
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: allows your blood to process that oxygen a little bit better. UM.

513
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: And one thing like altitude sickness is serious and it

514
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: can happen. It doesn't have to happen. It's super high elevations.

515
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: Especially if you're like you get out there and then

516
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 1: you start hunting hard, you do want to try to

517
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 1: like if you got to the acclamation, this is really

518
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: hard because it takes a lot longer than people think. UM,

519
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: but you'll notice, like generally if you come from sea

520
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,959
Speaker 1: level and you're hunting maybe six seven thousand foot mountains,

521
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: You're you're gonna be fine after a few days. Your

522
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: body just kind of gets used to it. But I

523
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: use that altitude advantage, so I kind of pre game

524
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 1: with it, and then when I go into high mountains,

525
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: then I, uh, I take it on the hunt with me,

526
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,239
Speaker 1: So I put them in a baggy and then just

527
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: take two to four per day when I'm hunting glast

528
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 1: backpack hunt. I did that on I mean I've gone

529
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 1: even like um mountains, you know, fourteen plus you know,

530
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen thousand foot mountains in Central Asia and used

531
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Speaker 1: it and had no problems and I didn't personally see

532
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: any like major lag and performance um. So that's one

533
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 1: of the reasons that I swear by it. Like I've

534
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: had like prescription for diamox, which is you know, if

535
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 1: you get pulmonary a demon and things like that, like

536
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 1: something you'd take and or you can even take just

537
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: for effects of altitude sickness, but it's not it's more

538
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: of a medicine, not like a prevention. And everybody that's

539
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: been on the trips with me, I've recommended it and

540
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 1: seen like nothing but really good performance out of it. So, um,

541
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: since I've started using that and recommending it to people

542
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: that have used it, like we've seen the amount of

543
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: altitude sickness that hunters, like whether we're guiding or whatever

544
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 1: encounter go way down. Just my personal case study, you know,

545
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's just the only thing that I've

546
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: tried that seems to actually work. So I think it's

547
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: pretty awesome. And that's why I kind of like promoted

548
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: all the time because it's something that I actually believe

549
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 1: in and I've seen work with guys that I've taken

550
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: out go from sea level to ten thousand plus feet,

551
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: and like we used to see a lot altitude sickness

552
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 1: and now it's kind of cut down a lot just

553
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: by following that regiment. So that's that's my recommendation. Then

554
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 1: of course you can do any kind of like back.

555
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, now everybody's wearing masks, who

556
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: probably everybody's ready for like altitude now I just doing

557
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: stuff with masks on. But um, I have used those

558
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: train eating masks before in the past. I don't I

559
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: don't know if it helps. I mean, in some ways

560
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: it probably does, but you know, just being in shape.

561
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: And then the other thing is like altitude sickness isn't

562
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: just about the air, but it's also about just like

563
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 1: you've got to keep your body in that in good condition,

564
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: and that means being well hydrated, like using um water supplements,

565
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: so you've got enough electrolytes, Like you don't want your

566
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: body to start failing because you don't have enough food,

567
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 1: you don't have enough water. UM that's generally what happens.

568
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: Is like it seems like the bigger, older guys like

569
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: generally get altitude sickness less than the guys that are

570
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: really in shape, because the guys are really in shape, Like, Yeah,

571
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna charge up the mountain. It's like I'm

572
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: charging up the mountain. I'm doing my things like I

573
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: normally do. I'm not drinking any water. I hardly had

574
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: any snacks. Day two, I feel like crap. And it's

575
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: because your body is just overworked and and under um

576
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: an underfed. So that's something you want to think about

577
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 1: as well. The question says, I've been enjoying the podcast

578
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: for helpfull of years now, always loads of info for

579
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: my first time venturing into the Elk Woods. We're heading

580
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: into southwest Colorado. My question is how do you handle

581
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: pressure from other hunters? How much does this change how

582
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: you hunt a certain area. Do you try and anticipate

583
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: where the hunters will push the elk or stick to

584
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: the staples? Example, a nice north facing benches, but seems

585
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: like they're easily accessible. It could be the first place

586
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: hunters try to target or go to. The south facing

587
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: benches is thicker timber, but could be a good hiding

588
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: place for elk to get away from the pressure. Ryan

589
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: from St. Pete, Florida. That's a good Uh, that's a

590
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: good question. A lot of places that I've hunted, I'll

591
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: have a lot of hunters and that's just kind of

592
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: part of the game. Um, I kind of do a

593
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: few different things. So the first thing that I consider is, well,

594
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: one thing is I mean me personally, when I see

595
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: other hunters, I generally don't get worried because I know

596
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: that of large majority of those hunters don't know what

597
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: they're doing, and so I can kind of play to that.

598
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: Like there's been times where I've walked down a trail,

599
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: guys kept like walking up a trail, guys coming down like, man,

600
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything I get up to the knob

601
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: and I spot a dozen elk, you know, And so

602
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: it's like one of those things where you see hunters,

603
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: but that you can't always assume that those hunters know

604
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: what you know or have even like looked for elk,

605
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: Like maybe they're just walking around with their head down.

606
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know what people do out there, but um,

607
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: I have encountered that more often than not, where you

608
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: run into a hunter and it's like it didn't actually

609
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: make a difference. It's big country, their animals are constantly moving,

610
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,479
Speaker 1: and so sometimes it doesn't make a difference. Now there

611
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: are times where it definitely does, like people bumping into

612
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: the same Like you say, they're going to those easy

613
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: south bases or whatever. So I'd say and something like that, Yeah,

614
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,479
Speaker 1: if you aren't the first person up on that bench,

615
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: then you're probably not gonna be the first person to

616
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: run into those elk. They're gonna get bumped and they're

617
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: gonna get moved, and they're probably gonna go into the timber,

618
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: in which case, after that then I would probably start

619
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: focusing on a little bit thicker timber, and then in

620
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: the mornings and evenings i'd be set up glassing, and

621
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: that just how I would play it, um, and I

622
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: think that you'll find success that way. But also one

623
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,959
Speaker 1: thing is, you know, hunting seasons, there are other hunters

624
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: out there. It's part of the game. But I wouldn't

625
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: necessarily let it discourage you from thinking that you aren't

626
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: going to find any elk because people find elk and

627
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: and animals do get moved around a lot like it's

628
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: actually sometimes there's been days the busier days sometimes you

629
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: actually see more elk because they are getting moved, they

630
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: are getting pushed, they're getting kind of shuffled around. I

631
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: hate hunting elk that are just moving elk like they're

632
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: just in that um I don't even know, like a

633
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: panic pattern where it's like they're just in survival mode

634
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: and they're making their rounds. It's a much better to

635
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: hunt elk they're acting as elk unpressured. But that's not

636
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: always the case. So I know, if you go back,

637
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: I did uh an older podcast. I can't remember that

638
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: I can scroll through here, but UM called it like

639
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: the pumpkin patch something like that, just hunting high pressured areas,

640
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: and that's a good one to kind of think about.

641
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: And there's a few good tactics in there, so I've

642
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: done a little bit everything. Sometimes hunters work for your advantage,

643
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: especially it's like, hey, you know, there's gonna be a

644
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: bunch of guys that are whatever, and maybe they're coming

645
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: up later and you get up real early, you get

646
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: to the top, maybe there's a good saddle where the

647
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: elk are kind of funneling, potentially funneling through. Using people

648
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: to push animals to you definitely works as well. So

649
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: there's a lot of different tactics. But also I would

650
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: say keep in your mind that just because you see

651
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: someone doesn't mean anything, especially if it's on a road

652
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: or right at the first part of a trail or

653
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: something like that. Like you just have to keep going

654
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: because there's I can't even count the amount of times

655
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: that I've run into hunters and then seeing animals that

656
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: I'm looking for. Things get missed, things get moved around.

657
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: So it's not necessarily um that big of a deal.

658
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: Question comes from Chris. He says Aeromy Love the podcast.

659
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: I've learned a ton of really appreciate your hard work.

660
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: I'll be taking my son out for the first time

661
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: on an elk hunt this year, and I wonder if

662
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: you have any tips for making it fun experience so

663
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: he wants to come back in the future. I don't

664
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: mind grinding it out for nine or ten days, but

665
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: don't think he's going to be ready to stick it

666
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: out that long. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. Keep

667
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: up the great work, and don't stick to one sign

668
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: off a new one every week is always fun to hear.

669
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: Hope you take my question because I'm sure there's lots

670
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,239
Speaker 1: of other dads out there that want to get their

671
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: kids out in the field. That's a good crisp. That's

672
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: a good question, Chris. Uh. You know, like I mean,

673
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: I've I've encountered this not only as a guide, but

674
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: I take a lot of kids and new hunters out

675
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: even just whether it's a kid or a new hunter

676
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: or whatever. Um. I always kind of like think back

677
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: to the way that my dad got me into it. Now,

678
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: I was a special case, Like I think I was

679
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: ready to grind it out for nine or ten days

680
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: when I was a kid. My dad was probably like

681
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: Jesus kid, you know, just is relentless. Um. But I

682
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: think one of the things that's really important is involving

683
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: the people that are with you. Like, if you's somebody

684
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: that you want to get into hunting and you want

685
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: them to enjoy the experience, then they kind of have

686
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: to have a little bit of skin in the game,

687
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: like let them make some decisions. Um, you you can

688
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: go over some spots and say, hey, okay, so here's

689
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: a couple of things. I'm thinking. We could go to

690
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: the top of the mountain here and look in glass

691
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: this spot, or we could maybe go to this other place.

692
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: Like let them be a part of the experience, not

693
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: just following along. I know, success and whatever is awesome

694
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: and it's great and you will find that, um and

695
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: you know, being successful is fun for everyone, you know,

696
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: and that's the whole point of going out. But also

697
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: there's those other things of like you know, just involving

698
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: them in the process of making it fun, but also

699
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: giving them like some responsibility, because I think when you're

700
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: kind of invested, you're like, hey, I picked the spot,

701
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: Hey I spotted something. I've got my binoculars and I

702
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: get to look and maybe he's got a little hoochie

703
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: mama type called like a push button call that gets

704
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: to use and it's like, you know, involving them in

705
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: the hunt where it's not just them following you around,

706
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: but kind of them getting a good portion of experience

707
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: just making some decisions and and kind of helping you

708
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: and then explaining the things that you're doing and why

709
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: you're doing them, and and just like being positive and

710
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: really just enjoying that experience, because when it comes down

711
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: to it, we're out there for a lot of reasons

712
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: and having a good time bringing someone else into it. Like,

713
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: I think some of those experiences of just being out

714
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,479
Speaker 1: with your kid, out with you know, him out with you,

715
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: that's gonna be that's gonna be something that you remember

716
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: forever and what one of the reasons that we go

717
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: out and we do this, And it's really cool to

718
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: be able to bring family and friends into it. So

719
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: I think that that's a good way or a good

720
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: thing to think about, is involving them in the process

721
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: and then um and then you know, like and then

722
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: also just kind of going at their pace. You know,

723
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,479
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be the most grueling, brutal hunt

724
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 1: you've ever been on. Maybe it's maybe sometimes it's just

725
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: you know, it's like, Okay, we hiked in retired. Maybe

726
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: you drive to a glassing knob and take out the

727
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,959
Speaker 1: glass and glass for an hour and have some really

728
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 1: good snacks and and just enjoy your time together because

729
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: there's so much to hunting, and I think you just

730
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: gotta you really gotta pay attention to those little moments

731
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 1: and those little things that you can do to make

732
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: it fun. Yeah, and have good snacks. That's also that's

733
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: also the top of the list. New hunters love great snacks.

734
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: So I actually got quite a few questions on this

735
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,959
Speaker 1: similar topic, quite a few people from Canada maybe hunting

736
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: more prairie lands or some private areas, and then um,

737
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: you know, just quite a few people just asking some

738
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 1: similar things about elk tactics, maybe in some smaller plots

739
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: of land. So this this question comes from fedra. It says, Hey,

740
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: remmy first time, long time I drew a small plot

741
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: private property elk hunt in prime of the September. They're

742
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: managing a high elk population, but I'm only allowed on acres.

743
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: Do you have any tips for small acreage elk hunting things?

744
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: So that's a great question, you know, there I have

745
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: had some opportunities to hunt some more smaller areas and

746
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: also sometimes all even public land areas that are right

747
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: on the fringe of private property. So maybe you're hunting

748
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: near private and you've got to three acres where the

749
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: elk come off and they use this particular area and

750
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: then they get blasted right into private property. Same as

751
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: if you've got a small track of private land, some

752
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 1: of the tactics that you're gonna use are going to

753
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: be a little bit different because what you're trying not

754
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: to do is pressure those animals somewhere else. Now, it

755
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,959
Speaker 1: also depends on the type of area that you're hunting.

756
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: Maybe there's something on that property that it's like it's

757
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: a magnet to the elk, Like if it's the only

758
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: if that fifty acres is the only alph alpha pivot

759
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: in the entire area, there's gonna be elk on their

760
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: day and night no matter what. Um. It's just like

761
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 1: they like the feed there, they're gonna keep moving in.

762
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: But you also aren't gonna want to just run them

763
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: around and kind of push them so much. So in

764
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: those particular instances, what you're gonna want to do is

765
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: is try to kind of take a more less aggressive approach.

766
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: I would say my hunting style for elk is quite

767
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: aggressive in most places, but when it's an area like that,

768
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: then I kind of i'd be a little more patient.

769
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: I find those opportunities where it's like a high success opportunity.

770
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: So maybe, And it doesn't even mean that you have

771
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: to sit and wait, Like acres doesn't seem like a

772
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: lot when you could travel around a lot of elk

773
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: country other places, but it also has plenty of country

774
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: to kind of hold elk and and have a hunt. Um.

775
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: So a couple of things that I think about, Like

776
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: let's say you're calling and you want to hunt a

777
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 1: bull that's fired up. You know, I would kind of wait,

778
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: like so I would call bugle and I wouldn't go

779
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 1: like in a normal hunt, I maybe would chase chase

780
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: certain bugles. In that particular instance, I would wait until

781
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: the bulls super fired up, and I'd be ready kind

782
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: of in the position and try to pattern the animals

783
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: of like, Okay, here's the meadow or the area that

784
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: they like, or maybe they're just passing through, kind of

785
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: like figure out the ebb and flow of the area

786
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: that you're hunting. I've done this many times where it's like, Okay,

787
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: there's a spot that I'm hunting near private and and

788
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: I could go in there and chase every bugle, or

789
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: I could wait until I've got three days and I

790
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: can wait until that bull is really fired up and

791
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: I can probably call them in um. So that's one

792
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 1: thing that I think about, is is using the tactic

793
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: that's most likely to gain success. Now. Another thought is

794
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 1: like find the wallows, find the feeding areas, even potentially

795
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: use decoy or set up an ambush in travel areas,

796
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: like maybe there's a good trail that they're using. They're

797
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: coming onto the property, they're feeding, they're moving around, like

798
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: you can you can kind of still hunt that or

799
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: be set up in the mornings and the evenings and

800
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: places that they frequent. So it's like the elk are

801
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: kind of moving towards you, and you can kind of

802
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 1: stalk in towards them. So using those kind of tactics

803
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: where you're you're using a little bit of patients and

804
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: kind of playing that chess game of Okay, here's a

805
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: really high percentage opportunity now is when I'm gonna go.

806
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: And then those really low percentage opportunities maybe when the

807
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: animals are right on the corner and they're moving away

808
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: not necessarily like or the winds bad like taking your

809
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: time and picking those really high percentage opportunities is a

810
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: great way to kind of hunt smaller parcels or pieces

811
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 1: of property. All Right, This next question comes from Dan Dotson.

812
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: He says, do you put any emphasis on moon phase? Example,

813
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: if I only had one week to hunt elk, would

814
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: that factor into your planning on when to go to

815
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: give yourself the best opportunity. That's a really good question.

816
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: I actually was doing the Vortex podcast they did like

817
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: at elk Q and A this week and um, and

818
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: that was one of the questions that I, uh, I

819
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: definitely put a lot of time into. And I'll kind

820
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: of paraphrase some of the things that I said, but

821
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: one of those was, um, the moon absolutely plays a

822
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: factor in elk hunting and the amount of elk activity

823
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: during the day. Now, there's people that go, oh, well

824
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,280
Speaker 1: the moon that like, you gotta understand what that moon means.

825
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: I don't think it's It's not a factor of it

826
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: being a full moon. Like the fact of the moon

827
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: and it's shape and size and whatever doesn't necessarily play

828
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: into it. What it is is the amount of light

829
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: that that moon can admit at night. So you got

830
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: to think about elk and the way that they're running

831
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: and if it's hot out, Like a lot of it

832
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: has to do with weather and temperature. So if you've

833
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: got a cold snap in the and the middle of

834
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: the rut, right, they're gonna be in like, say, no moon,

835
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: They're gonna be running and making noise and doing all

836
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 1: their business during the day because it's safer. They can't

837
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: really see too much at night and it's cool. Now,

838
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: if you think about a week where it's a full moon, right,

839
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: and maybe you've got warmer weather, so they're gonna be like,

840
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 1: it's warm out, But what happens at nighttime? Temperatures drop,

841
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: like when you're in the mountains nighttime, even if it's

842
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: a hundred degrees in the middle of the day, it's

843
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: going to be pretty cool at night. So it's like, oh, yeah,

844
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna be running around chasing cows. Let's do it

845
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 1: when it's cool. Oh and hey, the moon's out so

846
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: we can see perfect. That's a great time to run

847
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: around and do all our running. And then what's going

848
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: to happen is during the mornings and evenings, they're gonna

849
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Speaker 1: be pretty quiet. They're gonna be kind of war out

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have have kind of done their thing. Now,

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Speaker 1: I say that to say, if it's a full moon

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Speaker 1: and it's cloudy out, you don't have that light, you

853
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: don't have the same amount of light, so it's not

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Speaker 1: going to be the same as a full moon, clear night.

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Speaker 1: So the moon does play a factor, but it also

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Speaker 1: kind of plays into temperature and other things. So as

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Speaker 1: a guide, I hunt every day of the elk season

858
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: ten weeks archery through rifle. It doesn't matter the moon phase,

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Speaker 1: the whatever. We hunt every week, and I would say

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Speaker 1: over the years we have kind of generally the same success.

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Speaker 1: But I will say that during full moon's, when it's

862
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Speaker 1: clear out, it's way harder to find elk. It's or

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Speaker 1: at least just get encounters an interaction. It's like those

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Speaker 1: times where I mean you might even see it, you

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Speaker 1: might pack into an area, you don't hear any bugles

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Speaker 1: in the daytime, and then at night you're just hearing

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Speaker 1: screams all over the place. So I think that the

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Speaker 1: moon does play a factor. Now here's the caveat to

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Speaker 1: that is, like, you know, sometimes that full moon just

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Speaker 1: lands in a crappy time peak up like right in

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Speaker 1: the middle of September. So guys are like, well, I'll

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Speaker 1: go hunt the moon phase. I'll go hunt the first

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Speaker 1: week of September. Well, if it's smoky and hot, you

874
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Speaker 1: are way better off hunting a full moon during a

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Speaker 1: better week when you might get better weather than hunting

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Speaker 1: earlier with no moon. Now, on the flip side of that,

877
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Speaker 1: you might get no moon early and have cool weather.

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Speaker 1: Then that's a great time to hunt because some of

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00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: the bowls will be split off on their own, they

880
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: might be more receptive to coming into calls. So, yes,

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Speaker 1: moon plays a huge factor in my planning, but I

882
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: also look at other things as well. If that makes sense, um,

883
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: I maybe it would just have to do like a

884
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: full podcast on all fifty thousand scenarios and give you

885
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: like a good matrix of of how to break it out.

886
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: But I think that's an incredible question and definitely something

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Speaker 1: you want to think about. I appreciate all the questions.

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Speaker 1: This month, I'm going to focus a lot of our

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00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: podcast topics on elk and elk hunting, and if you've

890
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: got more questions or whatever, feel free to always shoot those.

891
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: Over the next couple of weeks, you know, we'll talk

892
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: about some calling stuff, some focusing on maybe some spot

893
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: in stock. That's one of the probably one of the

894
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: best tactics for Big Bowls would be sneaking in whether

895
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: it's rut or not. I'll kind of break down some

896
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: spot in stock ELK tactics and then some other tactics

897
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Speaker 1: that should help put you in the tag not ching category.

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00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 1: Did I say that right? Tag notchng it's notching even

899
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: a word we don't know, but cutting a tag category.

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00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 1: There we go. That's you win in doubt on Cutting

901
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: the Distance podcast, I just throw the word cutting in

902
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: and it just makes things like yeah, like real, real awesome.

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00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: But um, I'm excited to hear from you guys. I

904
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Speaker 1: love hearing all the success stories. Make sure just shoot

905
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: me some pictures and whatever. I'm gonna continually be putting

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00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: up older videos and new videos on my YouTube channel,

907
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: so you can kind of check those out Instagram and whatever.

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00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,959
Speaker 1: I'll have some some hunts. You can kind of follow

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00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: along on my hunts, and then that's where I do

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00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: a lot of the Q and A answers. So if

911
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: you're listening to the podcast, you're like, how do I

912
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: ask a question? Send it your message to me at

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Speaker 1: Remy Warren and then as I'm throughout the season, I

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Speaker 1: just screenshot those and read them off on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's the way that's done. I really appreciate everybody.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for the ratings and listening

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Speaker 1: and sharing it with your friends that I really appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: And actually looked through and see some awesome, awesome comments

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Speaker 1: here we got some read a couple of these comments

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Speaker 1: five star comments. Great podcast, keep up the great work,

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Speaker 1: great podcast. Thanks for all the info. Some of these

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Speaker 1: names are so long. Here's one. Um. Joe Hunter Fisher says,

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Speaker 1: top notch information content. The info, tactics and advice in

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Speaker 1: these podcasts are large really responsible for helping me take

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00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 1: my first white tail last fall. Not only was it

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Speaker 1: my first, but it was on a small pressured public land.

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Speaker 1: Really can't think you enough. Keep up the great work.

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Speaker 1: Those are the kind of comments I love to see

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Speaker 1: guys that are getting out finding some success using some

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00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: of the tactics. Um. Here's the one from McDuffie boy.

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Speaker 1: He says, practical, practical, practical, not just dudes hanging how

932
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Speaker 1: talking about hunting? Uh, here's a podcast that teaches you

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Speaker 1: how to be a better hunter. Great podcast, remy Ah,

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Speaker 1: you're filling You filled a gaping hole in the hunting

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Speaker 1: podcast world. You're a great host, humble and friendly. I

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Speaker 1: like listening to you. Keep it up. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate all these kind of comments. UM it

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Speaker 1: means a lot to me, So thank you guys so much.

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Speaker 1: And until next week, bust those bugles out and make

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Speaker 1: sure to stay in touch. I can't wait to hear

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Speaker 1: your guys this season. I'll share my season, you share

942
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: your season. We'll all do this hunting thing together. Catch

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Speaker 1: you guys later.