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Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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Speaker 1: online at Advocates Law dot com.

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Speaker 2: Jasmine is on the phone today for a first day

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Speaker 2: follow up and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Ryan.

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Speaker 2: So in a few minutes, we're gonna call him see

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Speaker 2: if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe

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Speaker 2: get her another date if she still wants one. But first, Jasmine,

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Speaker 2: how long has it been since you heard from Ryan?

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Speaker 2: It's been a week, okay, So have you reached out

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Speaker 2: to him? And that week about how many times.

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Speaker 1: Do you think I've reached out to him?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Embarrassingly, probably over twenty times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's a lot. Don't be embarrassed.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean I think that we can all

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Speaker 3: say that that ghosting is definitely happening here.

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Speaker 2: Then yeah, unless he lost his phone?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, both, Like who can survive without a phone nowadays?

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Speaker 2: True? What were the twenty texts or calls?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: What did you say? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well, I basically it was it was like more than

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Speaker 1: twenty calls and then just a text had just been

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Speaker 1: kind of like of just some kind of writing paragraphs

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Speaker 1: only because him and I basically met, we spoke on

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Speaker 1: this app and then we before meeting, we were just

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Speaker 1: he was like hyping me up and just it was

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Speaker 1: almost like love bombing, to be honest, now that I

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Speaker 1: think about it, and now that I've spoken to my

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Speaker 1: friends on it, but he kind of promised me a

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Speaker 1: lot of things, and I guess I was just being

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Speaker 1: really vulnerable. But before we met, he was telling me

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Speaker 1: how pretty I was, and we were going to go

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Speaker 1: to this place and we're going to go to that place.

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Speaker 1: And then when I met him, he was so incredible,

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Speaker 1: so like everything I could even ask for I checked off,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't ever, I don't even know if people

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Speaker 1: have a check box list. I don't, but if I

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Speaker 1: were to have one, he's definitely that person. And he

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Speaker 1: was witty, which is what I love so much. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when we met at this top bugs bar, and I

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Speaker 1: was just super excited about everything. He paid for the

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Speaker 1: check of course, you know, like any gentleman would, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: I asked him if she was okay after that and

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Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. But before then, before we were the day,

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Speaker 1: everything we're just like so many checks. It was like

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Speaker 1: a lot. Like I said, it was like love bombing.

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Speaker 1: And then we go on this date and it's the

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Speaker 1: greatest time of my life. And then I was like okay,

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Speaker 1: like you know, I was gonna wait to see if

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Speaker 1: he wanted to go ahead and give me a call,

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Speaker 1: because that's like what you do. But he took too long.

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Speaker 1: I was like hey, like are you okay? And then

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Speaker 1: I was just like thanks for the night. And then

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Speaker 1: after that, I've just been like, what's going on?

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Speaker 3: So while you were on the date at the restaurant,

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Speaker 3: it was so perfect, like can you tell us about that?

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Speaker 3: What were the conversations like, like what did you guys do?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So it was it was like NonStop, like talked

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Speaker 1: about our future together. He was talking about he was

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Speaker 1: talking about going to like Papo, going to like like

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Speaker 2: That's supera yeah, that is intent.

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Speaker 3: I would wonder what was going on, But also it'd

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Speaker 3: be kind of flaggy to hear somebody start talking that

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Speaker 3: life so soon. Yeah, did you do or say anything

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Speaker 3: on the date that may have I don't know altered

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Speaker 3: the course of this marriage.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean maybe I like appeared too eager

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Speaker 1: because he's like, yeah, like we'll meet like my parents.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to show you like my grandparents too,

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Speaker 1: and I was just like, maybe, like I said, like, yes,

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Speaker 2: That is a lot. Yeah, I mean to go that

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Speaker 2: far right, Yeah, And.

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Speaker 1: Then now I just think maybe he's like he wasn't

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Speaker 1: attracted to me or something, and maybe I should have

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Speaker 1: wanted parent dress but I don't look basic. But I

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Speaker 1: like you know, like when you ask your girlfriends when

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Speaker 1: you're going out, and I did. Yeah. Now I feel

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Speaker 2: Dress be anything about you at all.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I understand turning to yourself like what's wrong

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Speaker 1: But like, first date impressions are everything too, you know,

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Speaker 1: like when I like, when you wear like a red

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Speaker 1: have just warned that one and I just I wore

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Speaker 2: As a guy who's been on dates before, I don't

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Speaker 2: think I would care black or red as long as

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Speaker 2: you're wearing something well or not on where we meet.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I don't think. Yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if the color of it, but hey, who knows. Everybody's different. Okay, Okay, plaus,

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Speaker 2: don't come back get your first date follow up next

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Speaker 2: if you're just joining us for today's first date follow up.

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Speaker 2: Jasmine is on the phone and she's getting ghosted by Ryan.

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Speaker 2: So we're about to call him and see if he'll

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Speaker 2: tell us why he's ghostinger and see if she still

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Speaker 2: wants another date after she hears the reason. But things

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Speaker 2: moved pretty quickly. Jasmine, give a real quick recap for

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Speaker 2: everybody who's just joining us on your situation with Ryan.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I feel like this isn't your regular like

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Speaker 1: ghost story. I mean, like this guy sent me flowers

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Speaker 1: before our gate. He told me he wanted He told

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Speaker 1: me we wanted to travel together, that I can meet

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Speaker 1: his parents, he paid for the bill. Everything was good,

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Speaker 1: good conversation, and now I absolutely haven't heard from him.

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Speaker 1: And it went from so many messages of flowers to

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Speaker 1: my door and now I don't even get a peep. Nothing.

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Speaker 2: I would want to know, Yeah, I would definitely want

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Speaker 2: to know what's going on? All right? Well? You ready

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Speaker 2: for us to call him?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Here we go. I'm message to Ryan. Please the right Ryan.

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Speaker 2: How are you? Man? My name is Jubil from a

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Speaker 2: radio show called The Jebel Show.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Ryan, whole show's here.

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Speaker 2: I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria.

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Speaker 1: Well okay, what's up?

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Speaker 2: Have you ever listened to the show before?

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Speaker 4: I have?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: No, Ryan, we're calling you because you went on a

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Speaker 2: date with somebody and you haven't called them back. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So I'm not sure if you've ever heard a first

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Speaker 2: date follow up before, but that's the segment where if

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Speaker 2: you go out with someone and then ghost them, they

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Speaker 2: ask us to call you and ask why. So we

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Speaker 2: got an email about you from Jasmine.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Do you mind telling us about why you're ghosting Jasmine?

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Speaker 5: Well, Jasmine's great, we have a really cool date. She

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Speaker 5: is attractive, lovely. But you know what I have come

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Speaker 5: to learn about myself that I am I have a

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Speaker 5: decided for myself, no matter how good it's going. You know,

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Speaker 5: as we're texting and talking before him in the first

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Speaker 5: five minutes, irl, if I don't feel something discernible spark,

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Speaker 5: I got to cut it off because I've gone down

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Speaker 5: everything else seems so good, and then I'm months into

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Speaker 1: Okay, wait, I don't like Okay, hey, sorry, but it's

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Speaker 1: kind of really refreshing to even hear your voice. But

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Speaker 1: I'm really just in shock and taken by everything. If

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Speaker 1: back or call back and be polite have, you know,

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Speaker 1: That's really disrespectful. I honestly want to like curse your

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Speaker 1: just because I'm actually polite. I don't understand why you

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Speaker 1: and send flowers before, but you can't go ahead and

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Speaker 1: because you didn't feel.

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Speaker 2: As dark, right, And that's Jasmine. She's been She's on

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Speaker 4: I got that.

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Speaker 1: You're so much of a romantic, Like, what do you mean?

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Speaker 1: How are you such a romantic? I hope everybody knows

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Speaker 1: who this guy is and honestly doesn't want to be

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Speaker 3: My biggest question for you, Ryan, though, is what made

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Speaker 1: Well, that is just a coward move to not even

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm just I'm also pretty non confrontational, and

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Speaker 5: I don't like ghosting, but it has become a fact

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Speaker 5: So I thought it was better than me explaining all

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but being romantic is being vulnerable and having courage

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Speaker 1: and all of that. So I don't even think that's

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Speaker 1: to be honest, if you're going to go ahead and

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Speaker 1: like this is like, honestly just unbelievable. You shouldn't love

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Speaker 1: I wish you lucky this spark and somebody I hear it.

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Speaker 5: I was embarrassed that I went so far before we

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, well I really hope you learn your lesson

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Speaker 1: next person that you try and find a spark with,

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Speaker 1: because I couldn't mentally mess with people like honestly, like

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Speaker 1: my friends aren't even enough now, like having to see

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Speaker 1: a therapist after this is like where it's leading to,

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Speaker 1: Like it's a lot so ridiculous. You should like you

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Speaker 1: can't do that stuff. I'm trying to find the love

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Speaker 1: of my life here, the person that I'm supposed to

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Speaker 1: be with. I think that's what everybody's job is and

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Speaker 1: that's what they're trying to do. And you're going over

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Speaker 1: here and then just like oh, let me just like fake,

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sorry. I have to jump in again really quick, Jasmine.

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Speaker 3: You're right, you shouldn't be ghosting you and all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: And if you're in therapy, I think that that's wonderful.

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Speaker 3: But that's not entirely his fault.

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Speaker 1: How I think that, Like, what if you were in

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Speaker 1: my position? What if you were like ghosted like that.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you understand.

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Speaker 3: No, actually I do. I completely understand. I have been

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Speaker 3: in your position. It's more about the relationship.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm just kind of hurt right now in

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Speaker 1: the situation. And it's just like I didn't expect him

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Speaker 1: to even answer.

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Speaker 2: I get that. We'll just leave it there, Jasmine.

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Speaker 5: I want to be really clear. I think you're amazing.

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Speaker 5: I had a great time with you. It was it

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Speaker 5: was me after our date processing this and realizing, you

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Speaker 5: know what, gone too far and I didn't feel something

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Speaker 5: that I wanted to feel before I proceeded, and you

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Speaker 5: deserved better communication about that. But that that those are

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Speaker 5: the facts, and I didn't want to lead you on

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Speaker 5: or any further whatever.

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Speaker 2: Ryan, would you like to go on another date with Jasmine?

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Speaker 2: We'll pay for it.

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Speaker 1: I would like to go on another date with you Ryan.

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, what you would?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I would, absolutely you would. Okay, yes, yeah, what what?

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Speaker 4: I'm busy tonight, but.

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Speaker 5: I do have a friend who I swear I just

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Speaker 5: I say you came to mind when we went out.

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Speaker 5: I thank you guys.

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Speaker 1: Actually I can put you in cash, I swear.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's nice.

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Speaker 1: Really okay?

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Speaker 2: Cool me all right, but you guys, seems like it

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Speaker 2: worked out.

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Speaker 4: Thank you?

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Speaker 2: All right? Cool? You will first date full