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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: Well, Hello, everybody, welcome into a Monday edition of One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live. Chris Brown steve to ask her back together

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Speaker 2: as we're off some time off and back at it

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Speaker 2: as we go we tune things up. Just nine days

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Speaker 2: away from the first training camp practice. You can feel it.

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Speaker 2: You can feel it coming, and something's coming down the track.

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Speaker 3: I think it's the over hangover from my vacation.

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Speaker 2: That's right, there is some of that.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm feeling.

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Speaker 2: You and you had a good time. You did a

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Speaker 2: lot of hiking.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this I took Thursday Friday off. It was on

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Speaker 4: a backpacking trip with my wife, my son and his

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Speaker 4: wife and the two older grandchildren in his family in

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Speaker 4: his side hike around well almost they all they put

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Speaker 4: a good effort in but ended up you know, you

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Speaker 4: were wearing them out. Yeah, they yeah. And they also

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Speaker 4: said listen, I'm done with his pack. So mom and

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Speaker 4: dad were carrying their packs, which had been virtually empty anyway,

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Speaker 4: but they did. They put in a good effort and

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Speaker 4: it was three days down to Western Pa.

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Speaker 3: I don't know a pink.

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Speaker 4: You had a hot creek, dude, I haven't sweat that

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Speaker 4: long and that profusely ever, not even not.

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Speaker 2: Even playing in Houston and training camp.

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Speaker 3: It was old.

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Speaker 4: I was hiking all day and I was drenched in

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Speaker 4: sweat from the moment I got out of the tent

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Speaker 4: to the moment to the moment I went to sleep.

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Speaker 4: It was like nineteen hours. It was one hundred and

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Speaker 4: eighty two degrees out and the commidity was one hundred

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Speaker 4: and fifty percent.

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Speaker 2: How many it was, it was often how many thermoss

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Speaker 2: of water did you down?

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Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing I like, let me just say this.

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Speaker 4: The creek water in Western PA. We had a We

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Speaker 4: use an ultraviolet light sanitizer, so you can you can

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Speaker 4: pretty much put muddy water in it and you can

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Speaker 4: sanitize it if you get it right. But the water

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Speaker 4: was crystal clear, and we sanitized it and swilled it down.

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Speaker 4: I mean it was We had these big, you know,

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Speaker 4: plastic now gene bottles, and you go through water. Well,

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Speaker 4: when you're sweating like that, you don't You don't need

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Speaker 4: the outhouse either, I mean you can't.

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Speaker 3: You can't even keep up.

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Speaker 4: It was long, hot, but spectacular views, spectacular days, fun time.

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Speaker 3: Great.

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Speaker 4: My son is a good trail cook. He cooked it up.

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Speaker 4: It was really nice. We ate great.

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Speaker 3: The grandkids were loving.

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Speaker 4: You know, they thrive in that stuff, you know, as

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Speaker 4: long as you don't have to give them a.

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Speaker 3: Pack to carry, right. But it was fun. It was great.

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Speaker 4: And then we did it for three days and it

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Speaker 4: five the first day, nine the second day, and like

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Speaker 4: three three and a half the last sauce.

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Speaker 3: And it was it was. It was great. So it

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Speaker 3: was and but Grandpa's feeling it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, feeling it a little bit great.

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Speaker 3: Grandpa's feeling we uh.

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Speaker 2: We got away also we actually did it for the

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Speaker 2: first thing we did was a day trip in Watkins

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Speaker 2: Glens State Park. Have you ever gone there? At the

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Speaker 2: bottom of Seneca Lake.

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Speaker 4: I've been to the bottom. I've been to Watkins Glenn.

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Speaker 4: Never been to the state park. Went to the race

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Speaker 4: track and I drove. I drove the pace car once.

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Speaker 3: But that's cool. It's a beautiful area.

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Speaker 2: They have a gorge trail there, oh really, with nineteen

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Speaker 2: waterfalls along the path. Oh really walk and the gorge

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Speaker 2: trail is three miles round trip. My wife and I

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Speaker 2: inadvertently we went up to the top of the park,

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Speaker 2: the second half. We did it. It was a warm day,

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Speaker 2: there's enough shade there. But in hindsight, the next time

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Speaker 2: can't believe I've lived here in Western New York this

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Speaker 2: then this past weekend we stayed with some friends who

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Speaker 4: Beautiful were of the Yeah, beautiful setup, spectacular spot.

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Speaker 2: I mean they got a boat house with a sun

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Speaker 2: I mean, you want to talk about being remote, like

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Speaker 3: Lake, just even on a hot July weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just did a little shoreline fishing, did some water skian.

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Speaker 2: I am not a one ski guy because I don't

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Speaker 3: I used to be a one ski guy.

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Speaker 2: Only really could you get up on them?

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Speaker 3: It was easy? Oh yeah, I think it's easier. It's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not. I'm not that good on skis. So

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Speaker 2: I can do two, no problem. And I did a

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Speaker 2: little bit of that. Oh my god, my wife.

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Speaker 3: Said, video video, you're looking steady.

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Speaker 2: I did a little reason the only trick I know.

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Speaker 3: Touched the water down, touch the water with his hand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I got a little water skin on. It

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Speaker 2: it was the too quietest days on this lake I

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Speaker 2: ours that were hosting us. We're telling us, like for

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Speaker 2: mid July, this is really warm, Like this weather usually

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Speaker 2: there heat wise is like a month ahead of schedule. Right,

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Speaker 2: But oh my god, we're just sitting and floating chairs

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Speaker 2: There was nobody else out there.

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Speaker 4: I'll say this, And I've been around a minute. And

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Speaker 4: I have a daughter and her husband and kids who

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Speaker 4: live up in Anchorage and have been up there for

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Speaker 4: fifteen years, right, So we've been up there and it's

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Speaker 3: And I lived out West, I lived out.

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Speaker 4: In Kansas, and we spent tons of time out in

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Speaker 3: And we've been around the way.

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you something, and you know this, I'm

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Speaker 4: an outdoor guy. Yeah, a little bit now, not so

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Speaker 4: much now in this point in my life. But you

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Speaker 4: take New York State and the Adirondacks and the Catskills

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Speaker 4: and the Thousand Islands and the whole thing, even Western

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Speaker 4: New York here, you're hard pressed to find more fun

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Speaker 4: the Adirondacks, like I said, Thousand Islands, the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: Western New York is spectacular to go out and spend

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Speaker 4: Plus unlike like other places like Alaska, it's fifteen minute drive.

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Speaker 4: not like Alaska where you got to fly a thousand

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Speaker 4: the best love. I love this state. I love living here.

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Speaker 4: It's it's just the absolute best.

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Speaker 2: That being said, I will like the finger Lakes. You're

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Speaker 2: to the other end of the lake state protected land, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they might have an open place to have camp sites.

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Speaker 2: You know, you set up your RV or whatever you got.

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Speaker 2: But man, I mean, it's just the tree line comes

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Speaker 2: it always kind of stimulates the the American history in

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Speaker 2: me to think, like, you know, well, this is what

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Speaker 3: When everybody was wearing wool all year round through.

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Speaker 4: And you know what I mean, right, get through there, kayak.

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Speaker 4: I know, I totally get that. It's it's rough. If

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Speaker 2: We were kayaking one day and we only we only

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Speaker 2: had three kayaks and like a canoe. So I got

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Speaker 2: I drew the canoe, which was fine. The thing moved great.

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Speaker 2: My wife looks at me and she goes, you look

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Speaker 2: like a pilgrim in there. And I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: just call me Miles Standards, like whatever you need to do. Uh.

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Speaker 2: I was like a pilgrim really like She's like, hey,

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Speaker 4: So okay, yeah, but we still got some hit and

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Speaker 4: miss days off coming up. But camp is like nine days,

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Speaker 4: and so Brownie and I will be in and out

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Speaker 4: But man, as we've told you one hundred times, for

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Speaker 4: And for those of you who who like Brownie and

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Speaker 4: I together, it's it's coming our time. A part is

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Speaker 4: coming to an end, we're gonna be Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think we're here all week together.

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Speaker 2: This one's correct.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we got all this whole week and uh yeah,

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Speaker 4: this is the building's filling up again. You can feel this.

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Speaker 4: A ton of players, players are trickling back in. They've

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Speaker 4: they've got some stuff going on. I saw a couple

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Speaker 4: of guys out working out together today. Really good to

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Speaker 4: see the staff, everybody, the coaches, the support staff, the

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Speaker 4: training staff, the sports science staff, all the football end

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Speaker 4: of the building is starting to fill back up again,

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Speaker 4: and you can yeah, you can feel the engine.

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Speaker 2: Reavy Borrow was actually report day for Bill's rookies. They

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Speaker 2: report a week. Rookies typically report a week prior to

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Speaker 2: report day of training camp to One Bill's One Bill's Drive,

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Speaker 2: and they'll be doing that tomorrow. But a good portion

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Speaker 2: of them are already here. Uh some in fact, never

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Speaker 2: left after a mandatory mini camp. They just stayed here

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Speaker 2: to work with the strength and conditioning staff. I guess

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Speaker 2: to be as ready as possible under you know, the

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Speaker 2: watchful eye of the strength and conditioning staff. So good

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Speaker 2: for them. I mean, if you want to take advantage

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Speaker 2: of it, take advantage of it. I know you used

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Speaker 2: to do that right when you were playing used to

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Speaker 4: It was a different era, but yeah, we stuck around

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Speaker 4: and it wasn't just me at at that certain point

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Speaker 4: of history right then is when the team started having

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Speaker 4: full time strength conditioning guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you.

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Speaker 4: Know, instead of taking off and paying for a guy

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Speaker 4: Loss and it was Yeah that it's his game has

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Speaker 4: But you are talking about a guy who knows himself

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Speaker 2: Let's go around the NFL presented by Kalida Healthy, Official

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Speaker 2: Healthcare System of the Buffalo Bills and San Francisco forty

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Speaker 2: around because they thought they were gonna get Brandon Ayuk

439
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,880
Speaker 2: in a trade, and then it never materialized. He ends

440
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,919
Speaker 2: up signing with the Niners, and then he tears his

441
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 2: ACL and MCL and it's all up in smoke anyway, right,

442
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know if they're gonna play hardball

443
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 2: with him or just say, you know what, we'll move

444
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:29,479
Speaker 2: you whatever.

445
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, this strikes me. He just signed a two year deal.

446
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 4: This strikes me as a play that would come to

447
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 4: We'll come up with his agents. I think his representation said, hey, listen,

448
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 4: now's the time if you want to if you have

449
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 4: any chance of staying in San Francisco, which he may,

450
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 4: he said, you gotta you gotta get him to extend

451
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 4: you now, because if you go through this season, have

452
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 4: another year like you did last year, you won't be

453
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 4: in San Francisco. So if you want to stay in

454
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Speaker 4: San Francisco, you better get a deal done now. And

455
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 4: it may be that he wants to do that and say, okay,

456
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 4: let's make some noise to see if we can get

457
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 4: it done.

458
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 3: Because if he goes.

459
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 2: Through this year, really just watched Dyuke do it right.

460
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 4: If he goes through this year and plays and gets

461
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,880
Speaker 4: and has an even you know, seventy seven catch year,

462
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 4: forget about the yards. Seventy seven catch is a ton.

463
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 4: If you get seventy seven catches, you're gonna be You're

464
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 4: gonna have to make a decision about we're gonna play

465
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 4: because peop teams are gonna be bidding for you now.

466
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 3: It tells us it sounds like, hey, that's awesome.

467
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,199
Speaker 4: But if he wants to stay in San Francisco, his

468
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 4: only shot, his only shot is getting a deal done now,

469
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 4: because he will not be able to say no to

470
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 4: the deals he'll get offered next year in free agency.

471
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 4: In my opinion, Now, maybe he doesn't. Maybe he's like,

472
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 4: now's the strike because Ayuk's not gonna come back.

473
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be the guy and I.

474
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 2: That's part of the reason he had seventy seven catches

475
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 2: last year because I got hurt.

476
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 4: And I should be compensated as such. I get it,

477
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 4: But having just signed the deal last year, I mean,

478
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 4: come on, bro, that deal's it's a short term deal.

479
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think for a reason. Today is the last

480
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 2: day for the Chiefs to sign starting guard Tray Smith

481
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 2: to a long term extension. Chiefs franchised him back in February,

482
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 2: but tomorrow, if no long term deal is reached, Smith

483
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 2: is going to play under the tag and will be

484
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 2: eligible to become a free agent next offseason. Rookie report days,

485
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 2: as we mentioned already in effect. Bills have their rookies

486
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 2: report tomorrow, but the Chargers' rookies reported on the twelfth

487
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 2: over the weekend. The Bill's rookies, as we say, report tomorrow,

488
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 2: but along with a handful of other clubs as rookie

489
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 2: report days come do here on the calendar. The problem

490
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 2: is a good number of rookie second round draft picks

491
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:47,360
Speaker 2: remain unsigned the rub deals with fully guaranteed contracts. Over

492
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 2: the years, first round picks have had their rookie deals

493
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 2: fully guaranteed, and now two players at the top of

494
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 2: the second round this year, Carson swesssinger of the Browns,

495
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 2: the linebacker and the receiver, Jayden and Higgins of the Texans,

496
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 2: who were the first two picks in round two, they

497
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 2: both got fully guaranteed contracts. That sounded the alarm bell

498
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 2: to the agent community, saying, oh my guys, right after them,

499
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 2: I got to get him a fully guaranteed contract. But

500
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 2: they've set this precedent and teams are balking at it,

501
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 2: but the agents are trying to get it, and it's

502
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 2: put a lot of negotiations on hold. And here we

503
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 2: are on the cusp of training camp, and all but

504
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: two of the second round picks in the entire draft

505
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 2: class have signed contracts, and that includes, obviously.

506
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 3: The Bill not signed.

507
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 2: All but two have not signed. Sorry I did that backwards.

508
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 2: Two players have signed from the second round draft choices,

509
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 2: the two that I mentioned, Schwssinger and Higgins for the

510
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: Browns and Texans, respectively, who were picks thirty three and

511
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 2: thirty at four. Everybody else is unsigned, including TJ. Sanders

512
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 2: of the Bills, who was picked forty one.

513
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 4: It's the two words that gms hate the most in

514
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 4: contract negotiations. Me too, Yeah, if he did it, me too.

515
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 4: If you gave to that guy, I'm the guy. I'm

516
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 4: the same guy. Get me too. It's the because there's

517
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 4: no answer to it. It's gonna be hard. It's gonna

518
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 4: be hard. Now the teams may obviously there's the rebuttal

519
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 4: is listen, you want to guaranteed contract? Okay, the numbers

520
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 4: we offered, you cut them in half and will fully

521
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,719
Speaker 4: guarantee it. That kind of players obviously not doesn't want

522
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 4: to do that either.

523
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 2: For reference sake, Last year, Keon Coleman, who was the

524
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 2: first pick in the second round in the twenty twenty

525
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: four draft, had three of the first four years of

526
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 2: his rookie contract guaranteed. He even had some partial guarantees

527
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 2: in the year four of the deal. But now with

528
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 2: these fully guaranteed contracts at the top of the round,

529
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 2: no agent wants to be the one that accepts anything less.

530
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 2: So all eyes. You want to talk about pressure. So

531
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 2: the first two picks of round two have signed fully

532
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 2: guaranteed contracts. How'd you like to be the agent for

533
00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 2: nicki em and Warri who's pick thirty five? How'd you

534
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 2: like to be that agent? All right, what's gonna happen?

535
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 2: You know everybody else is waiting on you, right, now

536
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 2: all eyes are on Nick and em and Warr and

537
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 2: his agent who was taken by the Seahawks to see

538
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 2: if they can get a fully guaranteed contract from Seattle.

539
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 2: If they can, this is gonna move at a snail's

540
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,479
Speaker 2: pace with these second round picks. If he doesn't and

541
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: he only gets part of his contract guaranteed, I think

542
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 2: they'll fall like Domino's and guys will get into camp

543
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 2: on time. But if he gets a fully guaranteed deal,

544
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 2: then the next guy's got to fight for it, and

545
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 2: it's gonna it's gonna move like molasses.

546
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's gonna have a problem. It's a problem. I'll

547
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 3: say this. You know.

548
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 4: The way around it, obviously is to give the guy

549
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 4: that most of the money up front and then hav

550
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 4: him played for peanuts the rest of the way. You can,

551
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 4: you might be able to live with that, uh, but

552
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 4: it's that it never gets easy. I guess you know.

553
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 4: Every everybody's got their hand out at this time. And

554
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 4: plus that the real issue is well one of the

555
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 4: underlying not the real issue, but one of the underlying

556
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 4: issues is in il in college.

557
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 3: These guys are used to this.

558
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 4: They're not they've and plus they're not a college kid

559
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 4: coming out of school who's you know, doesn't have a

560
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 4: dime to his name. These are guys who are already

561
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 4: professional football players, so this is no skin off their

562
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 4: chin to wait and say listen, I'll wait for my other.

563
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 4: You know, they've only got one client, so they can't

564
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 4: enter the transfer portal. But this is not new territory

565
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 4: for most of these guys coming out of college.

566
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 2: Now, since we are back together on the show, we

567
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: thought we'd throw a poll at you for today's topic,

568
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 2: What will draw most of your attention at this year's

569
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 2: Bill's Training Camp. Your choices are A hard knocks, B,

570
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: free agent signings see competition battles, or D the James

571
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 2: Cook contract. Watch you let us know at eight oh

572
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: three five point fifty one eighty eight, five fifty two,

573
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: five fifty those are the numbers to join us, and

574
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: we do have open lines for you don't have time

575
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: to give us a call, that's not a problem. You

576
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: can hit us up on the tweets sheet at One

577
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: Bill's Live. What will draw most of your attention at

578
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: this year's Bill's Training Camp? Weigh in on the poll

579
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 2: next here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health.

580
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: It's s Buffalo Bill's Radio. Back here on One Bill's Live.

581
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and got a pull

582
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 2: up for you. What will draw most of your attention

583
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: at this year's Bill's training camp. Before we get to

584
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: the phone call, Steve, there's one thing I left out

585
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: about my weekend in the Adirondash. Yeah, my wife and

586
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: our friends who were nice enough to host us. Uh,

587
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 2: we did do a swim across the cove of the lake.

588
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,959
Speaker 2: There isn't that cold water, No, it was like seventy

589
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: five seventy six. Okay, so this was planned. You know,

590
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 2: the night before we're going to go for a morning swim,

591
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 2: and I had done that the last time we were there,

592
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: like ten years ago. So I'm just thinking to myself, Okay,

593
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 2: I'm going to be going swimming with a college level swimmer,

594
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 2: my wife, and a friend of ours who is a

595
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 2: full blown outdoorsman, like the guy.

596
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 5: Used to be a US Park ranger.

597
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 3: Like yeah.

598
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 2: So I'm like, well, I'm going to be in the

599
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: back and it was only like a five hundred yard swim,

600
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: like down and back. I'm just taking my time because

601
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: I want to pace myself. So I can finish without

602
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 2: having to stop. Right, So about ten strokes in, I'm

603
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: already breathing every stroke like I'm I mean right. So

604
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 2: we go to that, we get to the turn, we

605
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: break for a minute, thankfully for me. On the way back, Okay,

606
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 2: I am like fighting to keep up. I am just

607
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 2: I'm like a brick in the water. I do not

608
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 2: swim well. My wife's up front, like fifteen yards ahead

609
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: of me. She's over on her back, she's doing backstroke,

610
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: waiting for us, and I'm just like, really, really, we're

611
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: gonna do this. You think you're being courteous, but really.

612
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 4: You look at your wife, you're and you say you're teasing.

613
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 4: You're making no idea. How much I hate you right now?

614
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 4: She was saying under your breath.

615
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 2: We got smoked.

616
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:24,959
Speaker 3: I mean.

617
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: It's just when you are up against somebody that can swim,

618
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: like really swim, it really is annoying how easy they

619
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 2: make it look.

620
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,479
Speaker 3: It's just ye, it's like, why is that in a pool?

621
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 3: I've always been a pool guy.

622
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: Oh, open water is a different open water, different animals.

623
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,959
Speaker 3: It's really scary. Yeah it's scary.

624
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not just uncomfortable. It's like you know it's deep.

625
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 4: It goes to blackness.

626
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: I did a sprint triathlon here in Buffalo, like twenty

627
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: years ago, and we only swim in behind the break

628
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: wall for like a five hundred meters swim, and like

629
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 2: there were waves out there. You know, you forget it,

630
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: turn your head to breathe and you get a mouthful

631
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: of water.

632
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so, it's so creepy.

633
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 4: I was doing some yard work and we have a

634
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 4: pond out in our back and yesterday, the first time ever,

635
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 4: I look over and there's a snapping turn oh floating

636
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 4: around in my pond.

637
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 3: That changed my whole view of my pond.

638
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, like I'm not swimming in it.

639
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 3: Well yeah, I'm I don't do that. Yeah, you usually

640
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 3: gets good. And what he doing the yard where he's

641
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 3: jump in, right.

642
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: It's you usually go the other way.

643
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 3: They're not yet.

644
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 4: There's no way you're ever gonna get I don't say

645
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 4: no way, but you're probably never gonna get bit unless

646
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 4: you step on one or whatever. And my pond's deep,

647
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 4: so they go down, they disappear, and even the fish

648
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 4: that are in there, you know, you never see him.

649
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 4: So I'm absolutely hundred percent sure I'm fine.

650
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 3: But it does change things.

651
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I've I've canoed up in the Adirondicks like

652
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 4: where you were, and I have seen you know, stuff

653
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 4: in the water like loons and stuff, but also snapped.

654
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 4: I saw a snapping turtle up on a rock one time.

655
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 4: And you ever get that feeling where there's snapping snapping

656
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 4: turtles around town or like or like they just they're like,

657
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 4: you know, they scurry away in the Adirondacks where they

658
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 4: don't see people. This turtle was the size of a

659
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 4: a tire laid on its side, and it stood up

660
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 4: and turned like you know, the thing turned around and.

661
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: Look looked at you like like I I was like.

662
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 4: It is six I was like, it is eight o'clock, right,

663
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 4: So he's like turned around and looked to his left

664
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 4: and his neck was like.

665
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 3: And he stood up and it was like he was

666
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: on steroids. I was like I was, I was like backpedaling.

667
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 3: I was like fifty yards away and I'm back back

668
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:49,479
Speaker 3: paddling this.

669
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 4: He Yeah, they're they're serious. They're serious creatures. So yeah,

670
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 4: it changed my whole thing, So I would you can't.

671
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not swimming across the lake in the

672
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 4: adiron next.

673
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, we did it. It was it was it was fine.

674
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 4: Your wife's out in front, she'll get she's base, right.

675
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: I go, I'd be more worried about the person in

676
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 2: the rear.

677
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 5: Me.

678
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 3: You're such a good swimmer.

679
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 2: Hunt it's the weak swimmers. The weak swimmer that's usually

680
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 2: pulled from the herd.

681
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 3: The first swimmer. I was the most vulnerable. Wake them

682
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 3: up on the way through, and then it's like out

683
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: here comes one. I was the most vulnerable.

684
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: Yes, maybe you've seen the National Geographic Nature shows where

685
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 2: the one in the back, you know, on the pursuit

686
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: is the one that's picked off and sacrificed. That would

687
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 2: have been me.

688
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 3: That's movie making magic, right.

689
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 2: But we got to get to this poll. What will

690
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: draw We digressed a little bit snapping turtles and everything.

691
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 3: You go, hon, yeah, clear path for me.

692
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 2: They'll just bite my foot off at the ankle. Here,

693
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: try to get to you. What will draw most of

694
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: your attention at this year's Bill's training Camp. Choices hard knocks,

695
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 2: free agent signees, competition battles, or the James Cook Watch.

696
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: You let us know at eight o three zero five

697
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: fifty one eight eight five fifty two five fifty. We

698
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: lead off today with Kevin and Hamburg. What do you

699
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 2: got for us?

700
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 6: Kevin, Hey, guys, how you doing. Thanks for digging my call?

701
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 3: You bet.

702
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 6: I think of all those because we love everyone loves

703
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 6: to watch hard knocks, especially when you get big feuds

704
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 6: on the field. You know, someone getting a scamper with somebody,

705
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 6: you know, like this guy gets a scamber with a linemanner.

706
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 6: That's always you know it's gonna be on the TV.

707
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 6: I think of all those, I think James Cook watches

708
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 6: the most pass a if it happens, it happens. He's

709
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 6: a good back. But if he does it, you know,

710
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 6: it's not like he I mean, he's a good back

711
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 6: for us, but it's not like those other ones, the

712
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 6: hard knocks, the agents, how Joey Boza does, the competition

713
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 6: battles and stuff. I think the Cook watch will be

714
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 6: the most pass of all of them.

715
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: Okay, right, fair, Yeah, I mean right, because he is

716
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 2: under contract right now. It's not like he doesn't have

717
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 2: a contract, and he said himself that he's going to

718
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 2: be there. But I think there are people out there

719
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 2: that still wonder Willie or won't he get an extension

720
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: by the time the season rolls around.

721
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 3: I say this.

722
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 4: You know how We've had Brownie and I've had one

723
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 4: hundred conversations about this very topic off the air and

724
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 4: on the air together and Brownie.

725
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 3: Last week I was.

726
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 4: In here with with Maddie and I almost completely flipped

727
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 4: my entire perspective about the James Cook deal, about how

728
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 4: likely it is he's going to be I was questioning

729
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 4: my entire value system.

730
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you and I haven't been on the same page.

731
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 4: No, you know what kind of elite athlete he is.

732
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 4: And I've been watching these games and I'm telling you

733
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 4: because we went through the years with the Devin Singletary

734
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 4: years and you know that, and we love Motor He

735
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 4: was great, and he was just kind of guy you

736
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 4: know heard we all loved him. But James Cook takes over.

737
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 4: And I'm telling you, folks, the guy's a home run.

738
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 4: If you get him some space, he's gone. I watched

739
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,959
Speaker 4: it on social media, popped up today, his sixty five

740
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 4: yard run against San Francisco snow in the snow, and

741
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 4: I mean, there were four guys with the angle and

742
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 4: then there were no guys with the angle. He was

743
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 4: gone and it they the bills went from thirteen to

744
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 4: seven to twenty to seven.

745
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 3: I think I am.

746
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 4: I have very much chilled on my nonchalant attitude towards

747
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 4: James Cook being here. I think he's a guy I

748
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 4: want on the team. You know this run that we're

749
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 4: watching right now, San Fred, look at this, I mean,

750
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 4: there's just nobody. Those guys are straining to catch it,

751
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 4: and they just you know, they just run out of

752
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 4: route at sixty five yards. You're not I mean sixty

753
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 4: five yards you're not gonna have more field to catch

754
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 4: the guy and you couldn't get a And you go

755
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 4: back and look at all these other games as well.

756
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 4: There are other big runs by James Cook in this season,

757
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 4: and it's just like, dude, you know the Miami game

758
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 4: that where he you know, Poyers comes up and tries

759
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 4: to get him and he angled. He just out angled him.

760
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 5: Uh.

761
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 4: I'm very much in a different spot mentally about James

762
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 4: Cook and how important he is to how this team's

763
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 4: gonna play.

764
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 2: That run was the fourth fastest run in terms of

765
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 2: top miles per hour in the league last year. In

766
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: the snow I know two of the three guys that

767
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 2: were faster than him, one was Jamier Gibbs and the

768
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: Lions who plays indoors, and the other was Jaylen Waddle.

769
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 2: Last year, they were the only two of three guys

770
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 2: that had faster top speeds. I'll say this, then James Cook,

771
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: and there was the third guy whose name is escaped.

772
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 3: Jamier Gibbs.

773
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 4: He's he can scoot. I mean, that guy is good.

774
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 4: But I think they got to make a real effort

775
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 4: to get him.

776
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 3: I don't know.

777
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 4: If I don't know if he's going to be a

778
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 4: fifteen million a year, I think that's off. I guess

779
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 4: too much, But I'll tell you this. If you give

780
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 4: him ten to thirteen ten to twelve million a year

781
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 4: and guarantee a ton of it, I think it'll be

782
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 4: worth it.

783
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 2: I think you get structured in a way where it's

784
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 2: more palatable to him.

785
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 4: Maybe even to the team. You know, make it a

786
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 4: you know, make it a five year deal. You know,

787
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 4: I don't care, and guaranteed.

788
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's only twenty four.

789
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

790
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 4: So I'm just having going back watching the season again

791
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 4: and high points of the season and stuff in the

792
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 4: games where the Bills really where they were in this tussle.

793
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 4: It's particularly early in the going of the game that

794
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 4: guy hits hits one, you know, he hits it over

795
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 4: the left field wall big time, you know, and it's

796
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 4: just hits, just a base trot, and it was important

797
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 4: to the team and a lot of in a lot

798
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 4: of instances last year, and we haven't There's not that

799
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 4: many teams who have that guy with this offensive line,

800
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 4: so it's always on the table. Right, Just want to,

801
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 4: like I was talking about earlier, second and twelve, second

802
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 4: and thirteen, he snaps off of forty five yarders, like,

803
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 4: let's go.

804
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, set of downs or we're kicking an extra point? Yeah.

805
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 3: Uh, it's you can't underest you know, undervalue that.

806
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 2: I don't think let's squeeze Gary on a sail end

807
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: here before the break. What do you got for us?

808
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 3: Gary?

809
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 7: Hey, guys, they all do good good.

810
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 8: Uh.

811
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 7: If I'm thought I went a Super Bowl, I think

812
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 7: you all know it's secondary and the defense line. It's

813
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 7: all all about everything else I know is gonna be

814
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 7: good secondary defense. You're gonna wain Super Bowl after it

815
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 7: has to play better.

816
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you want to see how that all comes together.

817
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 3: I get it.

818
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's I've been saying off season, guys.

819
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're not wrong. I mean, those are the questions.

820
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: Those are probably two of the biggest questions that probably

821
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 2: have to be answered by this team. It looks as

822
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: though they have assembled talent capable of making them a

823
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: better defense. How effectively do those young players come along,

824
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: How effective do the veteran additions play, and how effective

825
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: is the defensive coaching staff in pulling it all together

826
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 2: and making it better as one harmonious unit too.

827
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 4: That's the other part they have been And we always

828
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 4: talk about how important the aspect last year's for last

829
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,919
Speaker 4: year's defense was turnovers, and you think, well, it's so unpredictable,

830
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 4: and they know you can't count on it because you know,

831
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 4: if a team protects the ball, you're not going to

832
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 4: get it out. However, the Bills have been top three,

833
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 4: top five in turnovers for five straight years. Defensively, it's

834
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 4: something they do well for whatever reason. Now, if you

835
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 4: can get a five year run or a four year

836
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 4: run in that, it starts to become a trait rather

837
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 4: than something unpredictable. And to me, if they do upgrade,

838
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 4: and I'll say this, you got Land and Jackson, you

839
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 4: got Joey Bose. Those two guys can really make a

840
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 4: difference on this team along with Sanders if he gets

841
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 4: in the fold. But also you know from from last year,

842
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 4: you even get Sanders and Dwayne Carter. You get Dwayne

843
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 4: Carter back on the field.

844
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 2: I didn't even talk about Dion Walker or Michael Hoyden.

845
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: I'm Larry Ogenjoby, you'll be joining in week seven.

846
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 4: I just think this is a group that can really

847
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 4: take a step forward big time. So yeah, I'm kind

848
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 4: of with you there.

849
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 3: Gary.

850
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 4: There's no question that we've been talking about Josh and

851
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 4: how he wants to improve and all that. You know,

852
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 4: the dude, it's not broken. It's nothing's broken on that

853
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 4: side of the ball on defense. However, they got younger

854
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 4: on the roster and they upgraded the pedigree of everybody

855
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 4: that's coming into the building now. They upgraded the pedigree

856
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 4: of all the new faces. So there's a lot to

857
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 4: be optimistic about. But you're right in training camp.

858
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 3: Let's see it.

859
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: Break time for us here. What will draw most of

860
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: your attention at this year's Bill's training camp. You let

861
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: us know at ADO three oh five to fifty back

862
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 2: in a flash here on one Bill's Live. Stay with

863
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 2: us all right back here on one Bill's Live. Chris

864
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 2: Brown Steve Tasker with you got a poll for you today.

865
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 2: What will draw most of your attention at this year's

866
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: Bill's Training camp? A hard knocks, B, the free agent addition,

867
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 2: C competition battles or D the James cookwadh or maybe

868
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 2: it's something else entirely you let us know at ADO

869
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,919
Speaker 2: three oh five fifty one eighty eight, five point fifty two,

870
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: five point fifty. Don't feel like you need to be

871
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: confined to just the polls suggestions. We go to Kenny

872
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 2: in Indiana. I'll lead us off this segment. What's up Kenny?

873
00:43:58,320 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 9: Hey, guys, it's nice to talk to you.

874
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 3: How doing good?

875
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 9: I got to say for me, it's cut and dry.

876
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 9: To me. It's position battles, and it comes down to

877
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 9: one thing. It's what we all know. The riding's on

878
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 9: the wall. The defense is not good enough. It has

879
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 9: got to improve. What the team put out there last

880
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 9: year was not good enough. And I expect to see

881
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 9: battles across the board defensively. And I got to say specifically,

882
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 9: I'm looking at aj Epenessa. He has not been good enough.

883
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 9: He's had every opportunity, he's been steady, but not good enough,

884
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 9: and I think Landon Jackson will push him. And I

885
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 9: know it's a big ask for a rookie, but again,

886
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 9: I just think the competition is going to be I

887
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 9: think he can do it, and I think the cream

888
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 9: is going to rise, and I think the coaches are

889
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 9: going to put the best guys out there, and if

890
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 9: one of those guys isn't Epanessa, then I think that's

891
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 9: what we all expected because we know we have got

892
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 9: to get better defensively. And if you guys don't mind,

893
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 9: I'm going to be up there for the Miami game

894
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 9: week three. Is there any way to meet you guys

895
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 9: on game day or are you just too busy? I

896
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 9: understand if you are, but at any rate, go bills. Thanks.

897
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 3: Ken, I'm I'm not busy.

898
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 2: Steve's usually floating around.

899
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 4: I'm usually I've got like two or three stops that

900
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 4: I make to tailgates around the stadium, so you can usually.

901
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 3: Cross paths with me.

902
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 4: Brownie. However, he's doing something so all the time.

903
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 2: So sometimes if I get here early, you know, I

904
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 2: may make around a couple of rounds and stop at

905
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 2: some couple of tailgates and some friends of mine just

906
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 2: to say hi and then head in.

907
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, Brownie's doing shots of whiskey before he goes.

908
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 2: On there, right, losing myself up.

909
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm teasy he doesn't do that, then I don't either,

910
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm yeah, yeah, for sure you can cross

911
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 4: paths with me. I'm I'm out in front of the

912
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 4: field House usually around here, and I'll stop by, yeah,

913
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 4: the Big Tree, and I'll stop by the Mafia House,

914
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 4: and I'll you know, and I'll stop by, uh, you know,

915
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 4: a couple of others. So I'm tooling around, you can.

916
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 4: I know it sounds like a shot in the dark

917
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 4: because it's like it's like woodstock out here on game day.

918
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 4: So but yeah, you yes.

919
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, So safe travels up today, Safe travels.

920
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a good one to make.

921
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 4: I'm we're have you like all right, you're the voice

922
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 4: of the Bills. You are known by your circle of

923
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 4: friends and family, however large it might be as a

924
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 4: you know, fixture. Okay, so let me ask you this,

925
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 4: what is your policy on out of town family and friends,

926
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 4: you know, coming in seeing you spend a time and

927
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 4: you know, spend that night coming to your house with

928
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 4: your or whatever whatever whatever whatever.

929
00:46:55,200 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 2: We usually well, depending on when they arrive, once we

930
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 2: get past Saturday evening, you know.

931
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 4: But for a home game, but you do you have

932
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 4: a regular stream of people coming through or not every.

933
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 2: Week, but there's a fair amount you know that come through.

934
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 2: You know, we put them up for the weekend.

935
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, your friends, your family, your college friends, whatever.

936
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, we'll do that and usually Saturday evening.

937
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 2: You know. After that, I'm like, I'm in work mode.

938
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 2: And then after the game, like we can catch up

939
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: for dinner, especially if they're going to stay, like if

940
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 2: it's a four o'clock game and they're staying for you know,

941
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 2: the evening and then going home Monday, you know, I

942
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: can catch up with them Afterwhard's.

943
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 3: Sunday one o'clock.

944
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 4: You're out of there at like what's five or six,

945
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 4: and so, yeah, you got dinner stuff, Yeah, I got limp.

946
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 4: I'll tell you about my seasonal schedule with your a

947
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 4: little more crowd. Yeah, it is a little bit.

948
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,240
Speaker 2: You have a bigger family, Yeah, but yeah, we can.

949
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 3: Do that maybe at the bottom of the abb but yeah,

950
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 3: let's take a break.

951
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 2: We do have to take a break here because when

952
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 2: we begin our number two, we're gonna do it with

953
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 2: our good friend from The Ringer. NFL analyst Stephen Rui

954
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 2: is gonna join us next. We're going to talk a

955
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 2: little a f C East preview, among some other topics

956
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: that Stephen has discussed on his own podcast and on

957
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: The Ringer dot com. We catch up with Stephen next

958
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health.

959
00:48:20,239 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 5: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

960
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Lives presented by Called LIGHTA help

961
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: all right?

962
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 2: Here for our number two on a Monday, Chris Brown,

963
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you One Bill's Live. He's the show.

964
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 2: Thanks for making us a part of your afternoon. Got

965
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: a little poll up for you today, so feel free

966
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 2: to weigh in on that, and it's basically what will

967
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: draw most of your attention at this year's Bill's training camp.

968
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 2: The choices are up there for you, so take a

969
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 2: look at those. Maybe it's something else, but feel free

970
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: to give us a CALIDAIGHTO three zero five fifty eight

971
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Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty. We're gonna make contact with

972
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Speaker 2: NFL analysts for The Ringer Steve, Stephen Ruiz and just

973
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 2: a moment here, so as soon as we get him

974
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 2: on we'll get chatting with him about some of the

975
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 2: developments this offseason in the AFC East and around the league.

976
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: He's been kind of combing through each and every club

977
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 2: with some of his partners there at the Ringer to

978
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 2: kind of assess the outlook for twenty twenty five as

979
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 2: a whole for the league, and then individually they went.

980
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 4: They went down the divisions team by teams, pretty insightful.

981
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 4: Some of the stuff they said about the Bills was

982
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 4: obviously pretty complimentary. They expect good things for this team

983
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 4: across the board. Like most people do, their insights about

984
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 4: the rest of the division will seem to be right on,

985
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 4: and like all of us, there are slight differences in

986
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 4: an opinion, but it was it was fun to listen

987
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 4: to They got good stuff on there. And you know,

988
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 4: we talk about this all day every day, Brownie and

989
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 4: I and even our guests, we kind of we kind

990
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 4: of focus on the Bills and the teams they're playing

991
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 4: and the divisions they're playing, and this year's no differences.

992
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 4: Been a lot of fun and to see other people

993
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 4: jumping on that conversation has been helpful.

994
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, So let's welcoming in now. NFL analysts for the

995
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 2: ringer Stephen Rueves joining us here on the show at

996
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 2: hour number two. And Stephen, first of all, thanks for

997
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 2: giving us some time, especially during what is the last

998
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 2: respites of our off season here before things get very

999
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 2: busy in a hurry. But I know you've been kind

1000
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 2: of plowing your way through the off season assessment of

1001
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 2: teams in the league, and obviously we kind of focus

1002
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 2: on the AFC East here. I would say among your assessments,

1003
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 2: the one that really kind of took me by surprise

1004
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 2: a little bit was while you believe the Patriots can

1005
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 2: be close to a five hundred club this year, correct

1006
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong. I think you were wondering how

1007
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 2: long and how much staying power Mike Rabel is going

1008
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 2: to have as a head coach there in New England.

1009
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 8: Uh.

1010
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 10: Yeah, And I think a lot of those questions are

1011
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 10: just based on the quarterback and his ability to groom

1012
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 10: a young quarterback. We just haven't really seen it yet.

1013
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 10: That's where my point of worry is with the new

1014
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 10: regime in New England. I think there is a worry

1015
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 10: that they're trying to kind of reclaim the old days

1016
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 10: and going back to I know Vrabel never coached under Belichick,

1017
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 10: but he obviously played there a long time and has

1018
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 10: a lot of that identity baked into his own coaching style.

1019
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 10: And I feel like at times at the end of

1020
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 10: the Belichick era that was kind of the issue there,

1021
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,720
Speaker 10: is that they hadn't really evolved as a coaching staff

1022
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 10: and haven't been able to groom young players. When you

1023
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 10: have Drake May there, who's a very talented quarterbacks, but

1024
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 10: some guy with a guy with some rough edges in

1025
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 10: his game that needs to be ironed out, I think

1026
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 10: there is the potential for an awkward fit between him

1027
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 10: a guy a head coach with a defensive background and

1028
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 10: who has, you know, this experience in this system, the

1029
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 10: New England Way, the Patriot Way, whatever you want to

1030
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 10: call it, and then this younger quarterback coming in who

1031
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 10: needs to iron out some wrinkles in his game.

1032
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 11: I don't know.

1033
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 10: That's the thing that gives me pause. We saw it

1034
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 10: with like the Bills when they brought in Josh Allen.

1035
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 10: He was obviously a young quarterback, a raw quarterback who

1036
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 10: needed to be molded into what we see now, and

1037
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 10: I thought they had the perfect coaching staff to do.

1038
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 11: So that's a question mark for me for New England.

1039
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 4: One of the things I've noticed about when Vrabel was

1040
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 4: in Tennessee. I went back and watched some old games

1041
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 4: when Bill Parcells was coaching in the NFL, and you know,

1042
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 4: it seems like they're doing nothing offensively, they're struggling defensively,

1043
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 4: They're just there's nothing spectacular happens in the game. They're

1044
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 4: obviously outclassed by their opponent. But at the in the

1045
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 4: late in the fourth quarter, they're down three, right, I mean,

1046
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 4: they just never go away. Vraabel seems to have that

1047
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 4: kind of coaching ability where he turns these games, even

1048
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 4: with a quarterback like Josh Allen on the other sideline,

1049
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 4: he turns him into rock fights, right, I mean, there's.

1050
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 11: No really he really bucks up the game.

1051
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 10: And I think his teams have always been able to

1052
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,280
Speaker 10: do that, and I think that raises your floors as

1053
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 10: a team and as a coach. And we saw that

1054
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 10: in Tennessee, like they always seem to punch above their weight.

1055
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 10: They had that one year where they ended up the

1056
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 10: number one seed in the AFC and a lot of

1057
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 10: people were doubting that, and you watch the coaching job,

1058
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 10: You're like, Okay, this you look at the talent on

1059
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 10: the roster, and you look at the coaches and you're like,

1060
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 10: this is.

1061
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 11: A fantastic coaching job.

1062
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 10: But then they get into the playoffs, and then they

1063
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 10: get up against high level competition, and I think a

1064
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 10: great coaching staff and the ability to turn a game

1065
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 10: into a rock fight only takes you so far against

1066
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 10: the elite of the of the elite, because those teams,

1067
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 10: you know, they're good at the fundamentals too.

1068
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 11: They're good at getting into those games and winning games

1069
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 11: and crunch time. If you get down to that.

1070
00:53:56,120 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 2: Point, yeah, I would say, well, you know, we'll see

1071
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 2: how things play out with Vrabel. I think the biggest

1072
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 2: concern is still the Patriots offensive line. I mean, I

1073
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 2: know what they I know they tried to address it

1074
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 2: obviously with their top picking Campbell. You know, they bring

1075
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 2: Morgan Moses over from the Jets and Bradbury from Minnesota,

1076
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 2: although it would appear his best days are behind him.

1077
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 2: That to me is the biggest question mark for the Patriots.

1078
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 2: Would you agree with that?

1079
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,439
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, that's definitely the biggest question mark, especially going

1080
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 10: into this year. I mean, that's something they can address

1081
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 10: over the next couple of years. You mentioned the Will

1082
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 10: Campbell pick. I think that was a good first step

1083
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 10: and fixing it, but like you kind of pointed out

1084
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 10: that they haven't really fixed it yet. Like the Bradbury signing.

1085
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 10: He hasn't, you know, lit the world on fire when

1086
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 10: he was in Minnesota. So I think there are a

1087
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 10: lot of holes there, And especially with the type of

1088
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 10: offense they're gonna want to run with Josh McDaniel's coming back,

1089
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 10: you know, there's gonna be a lot of heavy bodies

1090
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 10: on the field, there's gonna be loaded boxes. You're gonna

1091
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 10: have to be able to run the ball and get

1092
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 10: movement on the line of scrimmage for that offense to

1093
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 10: work as designed. And I would be worried if the

1094
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 10: offensive line isn't good enough and you know those first

1095
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 10: down run calls are getting you two yards instead of

1096
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 10: four yards and five yards, And now you put Drake

1097
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 10: May in second and eight, third and eight. I feel

1098
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 10: like that kind of exacerbates his decision making problems as

1099
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 10: a rookie.

1100
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 11: I'm not saying he has the decision making problems.

1101
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 10: I think any rookie, any second year of first year quarterback,

1102
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 10: is going to make some mistakes. If you put him

1103
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 10: in those adverse situations, you.

1104
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 3: Look at their coaching staff.

1105
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 4: You know, as you mentioned, Josh McDaniels back as the

1106
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,760
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator for so many successful years with Tom Brady's

1107
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 4: his head coach. What are your thoughts about him coming back.

1108
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 4: I mean, he's gonna be a different vibe, a different

1109
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 4: atmosphere because of the leadership of the team. What are

1110
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 4: your thoughts about Josh McDaniels. You know, he's a two

1111
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 4: time head coach other places.

1112
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts.

1113
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, I've always liked him as an offensive coordinator. It's

1114
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 10: always hard to separate these offensive coordinators with these longtime

1115
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 10: veteran quarterbacks. We've seen it with Peyton Manning. Like Peyton

1116
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 10: Manning always ran the Peyton Manning offense so to speak.

1117
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 10: I think Tom Brady kind of ran the Tom Brady

1118
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 10: offense once he got his footing in Tampa Bay. So

1119
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 10: it's got hard to separate, you know, the success that

1120
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 10: McDaniels had under Brady and what we've seen with him

1121
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 10: in other places. But I always thought like they were

1122
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 10: a well coached offense. You know, in the heyday of

1123
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 10: the dynasty of the Patriots dynasty, when McDaniels is there,

1124
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 10: they figured stuff out, they didn't get out coached, they

1125
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 10: made adjustments within games. You saw them make comebacks all

1126
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 10: the time, like the Super Bowl twenty eight to three

1127
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 10: obviously was the best example of that. So I've always

1128
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 10: like rated him as an offensive coordinator, but it's tough

1129
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 10: and the game is constantly changing, and what if you

1130
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 10: were a great coordinator five years ago, that doesn't mean

1131
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 10: you're a great coordinator now. And that's the thing with him.

1132
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 10: Can you update his scheme to fit another quarterback? Because

1133
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 10: Drake May, while I think there are some similarities, there's

1134
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 10: a little bit of a shared part of the ven

1135
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 10: diagram with him and Tom Brady, I think he's a

1136
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 10: stylistically a different quarterback and going to need a different offense.

1137
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,760
Speaker 10: So it's interesting to see what kind of offense McDaniels.

1138
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 11: Will put out there.

1139
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 10: Will he try to do more of the same like

1140
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 10: what he did in his past stinse in New England,

1141
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 10: or will he show some evolution that makes Drake May's

1142
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 10: job easier, Because I think like that's where he's going

1143
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 10: to get judged, right, whether Drake May succeeds or not.

1144
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 10: If Drake May looks like a draft bust, in two

1145
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 10: years and the Patriots offense overachieves. I still think Josh

1146
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 10: McDaniels is going to fall on the sword for the

1147
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 10: lack of development for the quarterback right.

1148
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 2: And while I would agree, I think there's the chance

1149
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 2: for a high floor there for New England. I think

1150
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 2: they will be a tough out in a lot of games,

1151
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 2: even if they don't stack up wins. I would say

1152
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 2: the team that has the best bus potential maybe in

1153
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 2: the division is Miami. Because Mike McDaniel had problems with

1154
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 2: culture in that locker room last year. I don't know

1155
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 2: that he has the internal, player driven leadership to help

1156
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 2: him fix it. And then on top of that, you

1157
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 2: know you just had some roster churn there. Yes, you

1158
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 2: help your secondary by acquiring Fitzpatrick via trade, but John

1159
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 2: who Smith's out the door, who was their best receiver

1160
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 2: last year? And look, Darren Waller is a physical talent,

1161
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 2: but he's never ever lived up to expectations. And while

1162
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 2: they have younger players that they have drafted that are

1163
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 2: lining up on the offensive line now, most notably Patrick

1164
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 2: Paul at left tackle, again, I don't believe that they've

1165
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 2: fixed the offensive line sufficiently enough to protect Tua effectively enough.

1166
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 10: Yeah, no, I'm with you, and I think like the

1167
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 10: same thing with them. There needs to be some sort

1168
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 10: of evolution on offense. We've seen the high scoring games.

1169
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 10: We've seen them put up fifty points or seventy points

1170
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 10: against the Broncos that one year, but it always seems

1171
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 10: to fall apart in crunch time when teams are able

1172
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 10: to make them play left handed. And I and they

1173
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 10: haven't been able to play left handed for the last

1174
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 10: couple of years. Even their highs are high, but their

1175
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 10: lows have been very low, especially against the top teams.

1176
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 10: And I think the culture problem, which they have been

1177
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 10: very vocal about and they've talked about it. It's never

1178
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 10: a good sign when you're talking about culture and the

1179
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 10: what is this the fourth year of McDaniel's tenure there,

1180
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 10: That's not usually a good sign. And it does kind

1181
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 10: of feel like status quo for them, like they weren't

1182
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 10: trying to improve this offseason. They were just trying to

1183
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 10: keep things, you know, where they were. That's what that

1184
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 10: Steeler straight felt like for me. They ship off one headache,

1185
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 10: one headache in the locker room and Jayalen Ramsey and

1186
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 10: then they trade it for another team's headache in the

1187
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 10: locker room in Minka Fitzpatrick. So it does feel like

1188
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 10: they're sort of the same team they were last year.

1189
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 10: And the only way we're gonna see them really take

1190
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 10: a step forward and be able to challenge Buffalo is

1191
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 10: if one everyone stays healthy on the offense, which is

1192
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 10: that's been a big if over the last couple of years.

1193
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 10: And then two, if they got to have some type

1194
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 10: some level of toughness. We kind of saw this with

1195
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 10: the Buffalo offense last year, where the results may have

1196
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 10: stayed the same, Like the Buffalo has been a top

1197
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 10: five offense for the last couple of years. Put that

1198
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 10: physicality and being able to line up under center and

1199
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 10: put big bodies on the field and just run over

1200
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 10: a defense when you can, like the Dolphins have never

1201
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 10: had that.

1202
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 11: They never had that plan B.

1203
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 10: They've never been able to play left handed, and until

1204
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 10: they do, it's hard for me to take them seriously

1205
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 10: as a threat to one of the best teams in

1206
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 10: the AFC in Buffalo.

1207
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 4: Well, if you're in the AFC East and you're the Dolphins, Jets,

1208
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 4: or Patriots, I mean, you gotta find a way to

1209
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 4: combat Josh Allen the MVP. I mean, he never gets sacked.

1210
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 4: Two point seven percent of his dropbacks are sacked. He's

1211
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 4: great under pressure. So what Anthony Weaver, I mean, what

1212
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 4: kind of tools in his box?

1213
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 3: Go first?

1214
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 4: We talked early in our show today about Josh Allenson.

1215
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 4: I want to be better pre snap this year. What

1216
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 4: other tools are defensive coordinators using to combat maybe the

1217
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 4: most gifted player in the league.

1218
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 11: That's a great question.

1219
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 10: You just gotta get lucky right sometimes, and I think

1220
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 10: it's being able to create that second or two of

1221
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 10: doubt in the quarterback right when they take the snap,

1222
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 10: Like you could show him one picture before the snap.

1223
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 10: And if you give a great quarterback one picture before

1224
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 10: the snap and it's the same aster the snap, he's

1225
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 10: gonna kill you. He's gonna dice you up. And Josh

1226
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 10: is at the point where if you just give him

1227
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 10: any taste of what you're doing before the snap, I

1228
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 10: think he's gonna be able to capitalize on that. And

1229
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 10: he has so many different ways of doing it. That's

1230
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 10: what makes him so unique. He could throw the vertical ball.

1231
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 10: He's getting the ball out quicker than ever. He's avoiding sacks.

1232
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 10: Like you say, he's not just avoiding sacks. He's a

1233
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 10: voting tax and creating explosive plays when he's under pressure.

1234
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 10: So I think with those guys, there's never one right

1235
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 10: answer because anything you do, any strategy throw at them,

1236
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 10: there's gonna be a drawback. That's why they're so good.

1237
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 10: They're able to find that plan B and just punish

1238
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 10: something you give up. So I think it's just you know,

1239
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 10: hoping that he has an off day, hoping you can

1240
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 10: trick them once or twice in a day with like

1241
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,919
Speaker 10: a coverage maybe you get a pick or a sack

1242
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 10: fumble off of them. But really against these guys, against Mahomes,

1243
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 10: against Lamar Jackson, against Josh Allen, I mean, I don't

1244
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 10: think there's.

1245
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 11: A viable strategy. That's what makes them so good.

1246
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 10: They're so dynamic and it's a type of quarterback and

1247
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 10: we really haven't seen until this era, and it's gonna

1248
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 10: be fascinating to see how far they're able to push this,

1249
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 10: especially like with Josh working on his pre snap game.

1250
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 11: I think Lamar's in the same boat.

1251
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 10: If they're able to check that box like the box

1252
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 10: that we took for granted with guys like paidon Mann

1253
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 10: and Drew Brees and Tom Brady and then they can

1254
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 10: do all this other stuff where.

1255
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 11: They're running, they're throwing side arm.

1256
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 10: Some of these guys are throwing with their left hand,

1257
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 10: like pray for defensive coordinators.

1258
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 11: I don't know what the solution is.

1259
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, And when you add in the fact, at least

1260
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 2: on paper, I think you can at least argue that

1261
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 2: the receiving corps has been leveled up, maybe not dramatically,

1262
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 2: because there still isn't a true alpha receiver on this roster.

1263
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 2: And I think part of that is a philosophical philosophically

1264
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 2: by design, because I think they feel they're more difficult

1265
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 2: to defend with a collection of very good receivers top

1266
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 2: to bottom, rather than having an alpha and another group

1267
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 2: of guys. But Joshua Palmer and Elijah Moore in mac

1268
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 2: Hollins and A Wrong Side of thirty Amari Cooper out,

1269
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 2: it seems as though they've leveled up there. Would you

1270
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 2: agree with that? Yeah?

1271
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 10: And I think some of it depends on the development

1272
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 10: of like a Keon Coleman. I think if Keon Coleman

1273
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 10: can become a little more consistent, become more of a

1274
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 10: threat on those vertical balls on the outside and win

1275
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 10: some more fifty to fifties.

1276
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 11: I think he's not a number.

1277
01:02:58,040 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 10: One receiver in terms of like talent, You're not going

1278
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 10: to pay thirty million dollars like Justin Jefferson, but functionally

1279
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 10: a guy that can dictate coverages and a guy that

1280
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 10: can force you at times to put a safety over

1281
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 10: the top like that is basically, you know, worth the

1282
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 10: value of a number one receiver that he's kind of

1283
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 10: having the same impact on the defense, just not the

1284
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 10: production that you expect. But I do think they need

1285
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 10: to find someone like that. I think when they traded

1286
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 10: for Mark Cooper, that's what they were hoping for, didn't

1287
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 10: really pan out. He made a couple of vertical catches

1288
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 10: down the field, a couple of explosive plays, but those

1289
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 10: required some like perfect passes from Josh Allen. I think

1290
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 10: if they can just give Josh Allen a downfield target

1291
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 10: who gives them a margin for error, which I don't

1292
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 10: think he's had over the past couple of years, then

1293
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 10: I don't think the wide receiver question, and like the

1294
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 10: who's the number one guy, who's the alpha male guy,

1295
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 10: is really a concern at all with them. I think

1296
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 10: what they've done with this offense, and they've kind of

1297
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 10: spread it around. You know, they've invested in the offensive

1298
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Speaker 10: line and keeping the offensive line together. They've thrown dark

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Speaker 10: boards at the receiver position. But I think kind of

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Speaker 10: spreading things out makes the most sense when you have

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Speaker 10: this all world talent at quarterback who can do a

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Speaker 10: little bit of everything. Like this guy can help your

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01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 10: run game, he can make receivers more explosive just by

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Speaker 10: his ability to push the ball downfield and create plays

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Speaker 10: out of structure. So I'm not too concerned with the

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Speaker 10: receiving corps being like super upgraded, But I think they've

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Speaker 10: done enough this year to make me feel comfortable, comfortable

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Speaker 10: that this offense is going to be right back where

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Speaker 10: it's been over the past couple of years.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that receiver room is interesting because you guys talked

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Speaker 4: a little bit on the Ringer about this golden age

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Speaker 4: of cornerback wide receiver and how you know how that's

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Speaker 4: always this that that's really the kind of the open

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Speaker 4: air conflict because it's such a throwing league and you

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Speaker 4: have these high powered, high priced, elite corners going against

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Speaker 4: money guys at the wide receiver position. The Bills don't

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Speaker 4: have that guy, So the kind of we kind of

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Speaker 4: missed that beef here in Buffalo. But you know, Tyreek

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Speaker 4: Hill says what he says. You know, Lamar Chase says

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Speaker 4: what he said. You know Higgins, all these receivers out

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Speaker 4: there who have these you know, Jalen Ramsey's no you know,

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Speaker 4: shrinking violet either, give us your thoughts about that atmosphere

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Speaker 4: in the league right now now.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, So I grew up a Panthers fan and like

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Speaker 10: my sweet spot was Steve Smith, and Steve Smith never

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Speaker 10: met a cornerback that he didn't want to trash talk relentlessly,

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Speaker 10: So like I think he was the guy that kind

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Speaker 10: of kicked it off. And you're right, like it's become

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Speaker 10: a passing league. It's receivers have become a premium position.

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Speaker 10: They're making thirty million dollars a year, so you have

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Speaker 10: to have the villain to come in to kind of

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Speaker 10: spoil that party. And I think cornerbacks have really stepped up.

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Speaker 10: But it's the most fascinating one on one matchup to

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Speaker 10: me on the field, just because the athleticism involved, the

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Speaker 10: stakes are involved, Like when you throw a ball thirty

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Speaker 10: yards down the field, one of these guys is making.

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Speaker 11: A play and it could swing the entire game.

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Speaker 10: So I think just the stakes of it, the passing

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01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 10: nature of the league, the wide receivers in the cornerbacks

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Speaker 10: have become characters in their own right. They're very you know,

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01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 10: out there on social media and they love to talk,

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Speaker 10: and it's just become one of the like the.

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Speaker 11: Funnest things to watch.

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Speaker 10: Like I remember probably like ten years ago when we

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Speaker 10: had Richard Sherman and Derell Reeves and Patrick Peterson and

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Speaker 10: they were going up against guys like Randy and Audrey Johnson,

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Speaker 10: all these top receivers.

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Speaker 11: I feel like.

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Speaker 10: That's that was really the golden age that set us

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Speaker 10: up for this one. I think we still need to

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Speaker 10: see some cornerbacks kind of breakout. I think we have

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Speaker 10: like Patrick Sartan Junior is a great one. I think

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Speaker 10: Christian Gonzalez and in New England's the next great one. But

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Speaker 10: I would love to see a new beef come come

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Speaker 10: to the light. I would like to see a younger

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Speaker 10: cornerback step up and kind of maybe take the reins

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Speaker 10: from Jalen Ramsey because I think Jaalen Ramsey's on his

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01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 10: last legs is a top top cornerback, but he he

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Speaker 10: carried that torch for a while for that position.

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Speaker 2: Steven, thanks very much for the time. We appreciate it,

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Speaker 2: especially here in the summer when we all have a

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Speaker 2: little bit more time free time wise, So enjoy the

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Speaker 2: free time you've got left because as we know, training

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Speaker 2: camps will be ramping up here next week. Thanks very much.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, thanks for having me and you guys enjoy your

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Speaker 11: time too.

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Speaker 2: Nice appreciate He's NFL analyst for The Ringer. You can

1368
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Speaker 2: also listen to him on The Ringer NFL Show podcast

1369
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 2: that he does over there. So he's just cranking out

1370
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Speaker 2: the assessments, season previews, all of that stuff. So we

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Speaker 2: figure we get him on and get some of those

1372
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,439
Speaker 2: assessments out to you so you can hear some of those.

1373
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 2: And I'm sticking by it. I still think Miami is

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01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 2: a powder keg ready to explode, and not in a

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Speaker 2: good way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, much to fix to his health is an issue

1377
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 4: that it's ongoing. Their offensive line continues to have you know,

1378
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 4: you have doubts about it. I went back and watched

1379
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 4: the game that the Bills lumped him up pretty good.

1380
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 4: Insid game, Tua almost hurt himself I mean he went

1381
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 4: in head first trying to get a free he gets

1382
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 4: a first down, he's four yards past the marker and

1383
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 4: he goes in head first on DeMar Hamlin and he

1384
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Speaker 4: ends up, you know, with a concussion.

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Speaker 8: It's just.

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Speaker 4: Stuff like that just continues to haunt that team, and

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Speaker 4: it had it has well. Tua has been a big

1388
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 4: part of it because he's been on and off the field.

1389
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Speaker 2: And they have a culture problem.

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01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, he misses three to six games every year except

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Speaker 4: one in his career, and they've been labeled as a

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Speaker 4: very soft football team. They it's well regarded, well known

1393
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 4: too that Vic Fangio, who's a high level defensive coordinator,

1394
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 4: was hired by Mike McDaniel. He lasted one year because

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Speaker 4: he coached him hard. There isn't a bigger indictment of

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Speaker 4: a culture than that. And then Vic Fangio wins the

1397
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 4: Super Bowl the very next year for the Philadelphia Eagles

1398
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Speaker 4: as their defensive coordinator when they absolutely defensively won the

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01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 4: game in Super Bowl fifty nine. So it really looks

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Speaker 4: bad in Miami at the moment, and Brownie's labeled it,

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Speaker 4: and he's right. They're a powder keg and they're a

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01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 4: top three team of imploding if things don't get off

1403
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 4: to a fast start or really good, and then some

1404
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 4: of their offseason moves have been head scratchers.

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01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm well, I mean Toron Armstead retires and

1406
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 2: I know they drafted Patrick Paul out of Houston early.

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01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 2: I think it was a second round pick and he's

1408
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Speaker 2: answering his second season. This guy's gonna start at left tackle,

1409
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 2: no competition. You're the guy. And I know why they

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01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 2: picked up James Daniels. They wanted to put a veteran

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01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 2: next to him at left guard. But James Daniels' best

1412
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 2: days are behind him. I mean, he think this is

1413
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 2: his eleventh season. And while you want to have some

1414
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 2: kind of a veteran presence up there, that I totally understand.

1415
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you went no offense to James Daniels, but

1416
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 2: he's just not the player he used to be. It's

1417
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 2: like he went into the bargain bent to try to

1418
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 2: address it. And it's like your most important asset, whose season,

1419
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 2: whose health usually determines whether your season gets deep sixed

1420
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 2: or not, has to be protected better.

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01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 3: The three of the Bills starting offensive line are what

1422
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 3: what was Dion?

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01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 2: He was he was a second round rounder, Spencer Brown

1424
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 2: is a third round pick, and Cybo Cyrus Torrens was

1425
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:48,719
Speaker 2: a second round pick.

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Speaker 3: You gotta do it, yeah, you gotta do.

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01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 2: You have to get and the Dolphins did that. I

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01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 2: mean Patrick Paul's the second round pick. Did they hit

1429
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 2: or did they miss? We'll find out this year.

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01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, you gotta.

1431
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 4: You can't just draft them. You have to give them

1432
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 4: an atmosphere where they can thrive. That hasn't seemingly happened

1433
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 4: in Miami.

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01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 2: So that was kind of a good discussion just on

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01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 2: how the AFC used to shake it out. We want

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Speaker 2: to get back to our topic of discussion at eight

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Speaker 2: O three oh five fifty one eighty eight five point

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01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 2: fifty two, five fifty that's the number to jump on

1439
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 2: board as we have a poll for you today. What

1440
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 2: will draw most of your attention at this year's Bill's

1441
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 2: training camp. Back to the phones we go and to

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01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 2: Dave in Buffalo. Dave, what do you got for us

1443
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 2: here on one Bill's Live.

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01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 12: Yeah, thanks for taking my call. And I'm sort of

1445
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 12: prompted by the person said hands down position battles as

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01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,640
Speaker 12: we look for to me, hands down injuries is what

1447
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 12: I'm looking for, particularly in the seventeen game meat Grinder.

1448
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 12: It's one hundred percent injury league. So if we get

1449
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 12: through training camp and there are no injuries, then I

1450
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 12: am a happy camper and life is very good. I

1451
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 12: mean overall, I think it was also informed by watching

1452
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 12: Terreel Bernard a couple of years back. I came into

1453
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 12: regular season field, like the Bill's had this huge, huge

1454
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 12: gap at quarterback. Bernard was injured and out of games,

1455
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 12: never played, never showed me anything, but really the team

1456
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 12: knew what they had. So there's also the stuff that

1457
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 12: goes on in training that I never see. So I'm

1458
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 12: really waiting to see what the team decided to do

1459
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 12: because I have a lot of faith in them. So

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01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 12: that's what I'm looking at.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a valid point, the last one that

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01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 2: you made there, David. We kind of echoed that earlier

1463
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 2: in the show because I think a lot of people

1464
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 2: were down on the Bills last year after all the

1465
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 2: players that got thrown overboard, veterans, stalwarts and cornerstones of

1466
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 2: this Bills team under Sean McDermott, Jordan Poyer, Micah Hyde,

1467
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs. I mean, all of these guys kind of

1468
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 2: got thrown overboard, and there were a few others as well,

1469
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 2: and people are like not gonna be able to recover

1470
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 2: from that. They had the most roster turnover they've had

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Speaker 2: thus far in the McDermott era. And what did McDermott

1472
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 2: and his staff do. They pulled it all together, made

1473
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 2: it a functional union. On defense, they were excellent at

1474
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 2: one thing, which was taking the ball away, and that

1475
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 2: was enough to support an offense that led the league

1476
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 2: in scoring points. And it was the most they had

1477
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 2: to pull together in one off season to make it work,

1478
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 2: and they made it work.

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01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 3: Now.

1480
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 2: I would argue, while they may be pulling together just

1481
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 2: as many pieces on the defensive side of the ball,

1482
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 2: those pieces I think are demonstrably more talented than the

1483
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 2: pieces they had at their disposal last year. So if

1484
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 2: they can do what they did last year and pull

1485
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,640
Speaker 2: it all together in the same way, I think this

1486
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 2: defense has a chance to be significantly better than the

1487
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 2: one we saw last year.

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01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, the pedigree of the rosters just a little better,

1489
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,719
Speaker 4: particularly on the front seven of the defense. And certainly,

1490
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 4: and he's and you're right, Dave, injuries make a difference

1491
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 4: everywhere and it's the worst thing ever to lose a

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01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 4: guy for the season or for eight weeks in training camp.

1493
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 4: You're right, but we'll see that's never the intent to

1494
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:52,839
Speaker 4: lose a guy to injury. But you gotta practice.

1495
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, break time for us here, Mari, your phone calls

1496
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 2: when we come back. Patrick in South Buffalo and Mark

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01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 2: and West Seneca will lead us off. When we were

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Speaker 2: here on one Bill's Live presented by co Lod of Health,

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. What will draw most of your

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Speaker 2: attention at this year's Bill's Training Camp got to pull

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Speaker 2: up for you. Look at those choices. Maybe you have

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01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 2: an answer of your own that's different from those. That's

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Speaker 2: fine too, fire away at eight h three zero five

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Speaker 2: fifty one eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Back

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Speaker 2: to the phones we go, and to Patrick in South Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: What do you have for as Patrick?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Great shots, usual guys, guys, don't you share. It's about

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01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:44,759
Speaker 8: time Josh Allen start calling the plays. He's a secret weapon,

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01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 8: if you ask me in its wasted talent. If he doesn't,

1511
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 8: especially when they need him the most in the playoffs.

1512
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 8: I'm telling you this guy who's going to be more

1513
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 8: dangerous he'll blow past my homes. I can fit it,

1514
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 8: I can scent it, and I wouldn't bet against it.

1515
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:01,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right. We all love Josh and he's the MVP.

1516
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 4: I mean he's and he's right in his wheelhouse right now.

1517
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 4: As far as his physical capabilities and his experienced, the

1518
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 4: whole thing him calling plays, I kind of doubt it.

1519
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 4: Here's the reason why. It's while you're doing what you're

1520
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 4: doing on the field, it's hard to keep an entire

1521
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 4: menu of one hundred and fifty plays or whatever it

1522
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 4: is at your fingertips. It's hard for him to, oh, yeah,

1523
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:27,759
Speaker 4: we're gonna run this your offensive corner. And just because

1524
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 4: Josh isn't calling the exact play doesn't mean they haven't

1525
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 4: had conversation after conversation after conversation about what they're gonna

1526
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 4: run in the situation they're in at that moment. On

1527
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 4: a third and six at the plus forty five yard

1528
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 4: line or third and two at the minus twenty, right

1529
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 4: if you're in your own in on your own twenty

1530
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:49,719
Speaker 4: or the plus twenty, you know they have conversations about

1531
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 4: this all the time. And every starting quarterback in the

1532
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 4: league has a veto and he gets during the week,

1533
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:01,799
Speaker 4: I'll say, I want to call this in this situation.

1534
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 4: We expect him to do this, and I want to

1535
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 4: call this play in the quarterback. I'm hyperbolizing a little

1536
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 4: bit here, the starting quarterback, I say, no, we ain't

1537
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 4: running that. Famously, John Elway did that in the Super

1538
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 4: Bowl when he did the helicopter when he comes in

1539
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 4: and jumps in. That was a play he told him

1540
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 4: during the week, if you call it, I'm not throwing.

1541
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:21,639
Speaker 3: It, and he ends up running.

1542
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 4: He's a hero because he gets helicopter and gets the

1543
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 4: first down. It was on a play he said, don't

1544
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 4: call it because I ain't throwing it. He didn't throw it,

1545
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:32,679
Speaker 4: he ran it, got the first down. Anyway, That stuff

1546
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 4: happens in the NFL. It's high level stuff. And when

1547
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 4: they call a play down there, that doesn't necessarily mean

1548
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 4: that's the play that's going to be run at the end,

1549
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 4: because when he called that play, it sets off a

1550
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 4: menu that if the defense does this, we're switching out

1551
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:50,680
Speaker 4: of that play anyway and doing this other play. So

1552
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 4: it's a it's high level stuff you need to have.

1553
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 4: It's not just one guy calling the plays. It's certainly

1554
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:01,679
Speaker 4: the offensive coordinator who doesn't given basis, but there's voices

1555
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 4: and all those other coaches up in that coaching box,

1556
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 4: and on the sideline, the guy with the big headset

1557
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:08,680
Speaker 4: that means the head coach, he can always chime in.

1558
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 3: So it's a it's group think.

1559
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 4: Is what it is, and the quarterback and the offensive coordinator,

1560
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 4: and there's a hierarchy obviously, but there's never ever, there's

1561
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 4: never ever one guy calling the play. There's just one

1562
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,799
Speaker 4: guy that says, no, we're gonna call this play instead,

1563
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 4: that kind of thing.

1564
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 2: And the other thing to remember too is in this

1565
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 2: day and age, every quarterback in the league has a

1566
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 2: decision to make on most plays. Because of the advent

1567
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 2: of the RPO game. You know, they're making a run,

1568
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 2: pass option decision on every play. So in a way,

1569
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:46,759
Speaker 2: they are calling the plays. Granted, it's from a menu

1570
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:50,719
Speaker 2: of two two given plays on that given down and distance,

1571
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 2: but in many ways, a lot of quarterbacks are calling

1572
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 2: the plays. Their menu is just down to two plays,

1573
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 2: a run play and a pass play on this particular down.

1574
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 2: And Josh does that all the time. You can even

1575
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 2: hear it on the parabolic MIC's on television. When you

1576
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 2: hear Josh pre snap saying kill kill kill. That means

1577
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:12,479
Speaker 2: they're going to either the run when they had a

1578
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 2: pass called, or flipping it to something else entirely. So

1579
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 2: there is a lot of decision making that quarterbacks do already.

1580
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 2: It's just from the two plays given to the given

1581
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 2: to them by the coordinator in the huddle. So I mean,

1582
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 2: that's that's as far as it's really gonna go this

1583
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 2: day and age, because it's very hard for a quarterback

1584
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 2: with a very short menu to say a step ahead

1585
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 2: of a defense as complex as they are in this day.

1586
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 4: It may the pendulum may swing back the other way.

1587
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 4: So we may see guys like Terry Bradshaw's call or

1588
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 4: Jim Kelly going fast and doing it. The pendulum may

1589
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 4: swing back the other way, but it'll take it'll take

1590
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 4: some time for that to happen, and it'll take some

1591
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 4: changes in the rules and the way they're calling it,

1592
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 4: and the advent and the advantageous of the play clock,

1593
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 4: all of that stuff. So it's not there at this

1594
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 4: point in history. In the NFL, this is the way

1595
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 4: everybody does it because it's the smartest way to do

1596
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 4: it in the most effective way.

1597
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 2: Let's go to Mark in West senecon X. What's up? Mark?

1598
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 13: Hey, guys, I had to call you because I was

1599
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 13: in I've been away for two weeks. I don't know

1600
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 13: if you remember, but I told you I was going

1601
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 13: on my anniversary cruise up to Iceland in.

1602
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 9: Greenland with my wife.

1603
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 13: So we were gone for two weeks and I've had

1604
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 13: I've been in Bill's withdrawal, but I wanted to give

1605
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 13: you an update about both mafia. The only thing I

1606
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 13: wrote bills on the trip was I had my Bill's hat,

1607
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 13: which was a blue and gray hat with the standing

1608
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 13: red logo. Didn't even say Buffalo, didn't say bills on it.

1609
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 13: He had to recognize the logo. The very first day

1610
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 13: on the ship, I stepped off in elevator. I'm in

1611
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 13: a hallway, and from all the way down at the

1612
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:49,759
Speaker 13: other end of the hallway, I hear go bills. In Iceland,

1613
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 13: I got oh gol bulls. In Greenland, I got gold bulls.

1614
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 13: It just shows you how far reaching the NFL is

1615
01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 13: and the mafia is. Why gonna well well everywhere, and

1616
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 13: we had a great time. I recommend the cruise to

1617
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 13: anybody that is truly God's wondrous Earth up there a

1618
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,839
Speaker 13: different lifestyle and every view that you turn around is

1619
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 13: more beautiful than the last one you were on. And

1620
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 13: it was a great, great time, but I did miss

1621
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 13: I'm a little bit behind. I don't know what's been

1622
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:23,520
Speaker 13: going on with the bills. We were a little detached,

1623
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:26,640
Speaker 13: which is the way we wanted it. But now that

1624
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:29,520
Speaker 13: I'm back, I'm getting through my withdraw all listening.

1625
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 6: To you guys today, So I thank you.

1626
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 13: I appreciate it, but I just wanted to give you

1627
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:34,759
Speaker 13: the Bills mafia updates.

1628
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not surprised and rolling.

1629
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 6: We're everywhere, absolutely everywhere.

1630
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 13: By the end of the cruise, I had people get

1631
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 13: in the elevator to be standing there and they go, oh,

1632
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 13: you're the Buffalo guy. So the word got around the

1633
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 13: ship that there was Bill's Mafia on the ship. It

1634
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:53,559
Speaker 13: was great. It was a lot of fun.

1635
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 2: Say I'm surprised, Mark, Thanks for the phone call. Glad

1636
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 2: you had a nice trip there. Yeah, you didn't miss

1637
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 2: much at least over the last two weeks. Anyway, it's

1638
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 2: you know, it's quiet time. If you wanted to pick

1639
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 2: a time to travel and not miss any Bill stuff,

1640
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:07,639
Speaker 2: those were probably the two weeks to do it now

1641
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,680
Speaker 2: that we said nine days away from the start of

1642
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 2: training camp, so yeah, we got you know, we got

1643
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 2: the poll up now and I think based on most

1644
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 2: of the responses that we've had, most people, even though

1645
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 2: the poll surprisingly Steve the last I checked, had Hard Knocks,

1646
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 2: it's the thing that people were looking forward to hard

1647
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 2: with it almost half the vote. That kind of surprised

1648
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 2: me a little, But I think it's the novelty of

1649
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:43,759
Speaker 2: it that's so appealing, and they'll get to see things

1650
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 2: that they don't normally see at training camp because you know,

1651
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 2: Hard Knocks access will be behind the scenes a great deal.

1652
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 2: Competition battles were second, and then the James Cook Watch,

1653
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 2: followed by the free agent additions. I am a little

1654
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:01,839
Speaker 2: surprised that more people aren't interested in seeing Joshua Palmer,

1655
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 2: Elijah Moore or Joey Bosa, you know, those kinds of

1656
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,719
Speaker 2: new additions to the roster, which seem like you've leveled

1657
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,799
Speaker 2: up at those positions. So that was a little surprising

1658
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 2: to me to see how low it ranked in the

1659
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:14,679
Speaker 2: poll today.

1660
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit as well as for me, I'm

1661
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 4: you know, there's yeah, the new faces and particularly guys

1662
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 4: who've made kind of you know, made a name for

1663
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 4: themselves in the league. I think most people want to

1664
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 4: see what they look like in a Bill's uniform. But

1665
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 4: now it's like twelve percent of the people are like, yeah,

1666
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 4: free agents. I want to see those guys. Everybody wants

1667
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 4: to see hard Knocks. And I'll say this, you probably

1668
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 4: will see you if you are a training camp regular

1669
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:42,679
Speaker 4: and you go there every year, and you'll probably notice

1670
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 4: the Hard Knocks crews on the field and around You'll

1671
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 4: you'll see it's like, what are those guys doing? And

1672
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:52,719
Speaker 4: you'll see it. So it's going to be ever present

1673
01:21:54,640 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 4: at training camp, I would assume. But yeah, I get it.

1674
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 4: Certainly Bill's Mafia is gonna put the ratings of that

1675
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 4: thing on their top priority list, no question.

1676
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I have no doubt about that. Wanted to

1677
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 2: crack open the tweet sheet brought to you by Corgan

1678
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:15,120
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1679
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:17,920
Speaker 2: What will draw most of your attention at this year's

1680
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 2: Bill's training camp? Joey says, I think the position battles

1681
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 2: will be the most exciting and fun to watch, and

1682
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:24,760
Speaker 2: I think the new special teams coaches will really make

1683
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:26,639
Speaker 2: a huge difference over what I think was a glaring

1684
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:30,720
Speaker 2: problem in the return and coverage units. I know, I'm

1685
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:34,640
Speaker 2: feeling good about having a veteran special teams coordinator on

1686
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 2: this coaching staff and Chris Tabor. I don't know. This

1687
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 2: could be foolish to think, but I genuinely believe that

1688
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 2: there are going to be some game planning elements in

1689
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 2: that phase of the game for the Bills that will

1690
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:50,640
Speaker 2: genuinely give this team an edge in that phase of

1691
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 2: the game, maybe for the first time in a little

1692
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 2: while here.

1693
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, and certainly you know that they all come in

1694
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:58,639
Speaker 4: with questions and all, you know, not too many people

1695
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:02,679
Speaker 4: know who Mike Hoyd is. Joey Bosa, they know, but

1696
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 4: everybody's concerned as to whether he can stay healthy and

1697
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 4: that was exacer but that concern was exacerbated by the

1698
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 4: calf injury before they could even get to mini camp.

1699
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of question marks, But there is.

1700
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:16,759
Speaker 4: A lot of I think potential that I think people

1701
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 4: are really excited about, and certainly in the preseason you'd

1702
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 4: expect all that potential to be in full bloom before

1703
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 4: they had a chance to get ground down by the

1704
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 4: rigors of a season.

1705
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 2: Jack says, competition battles, especially the dB battles. I get

1706
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 2: more curious by the day between corner, nickel and safety.

1707
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 2: It feels like Bills have fifty guys for maybe eleven

1708
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 2: or twelve spots. I know that's an exaggeration, but with additions,

1709
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 2: there will be some good players off the roster. I

1710
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:46,719
Speaker 2: worry for cam Lewis. Cam Lewis, the advantage he has

1711
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 2: is he's a number one team gunner on coverage units

1712
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 2: and has been for the last two years. And then

1713
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 2: he plays two different positions on defense, safety and nickel respectively.

1714
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 2: I mean, he's been Taryn Johnson's back up the last

1715
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:04,680
Speaker 2: couple of years, and you know he served as a

1716
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 2: reserve safety as well, and you know even played some

1717
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 2: din package last year when injuries struck that group, especially

1718
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 2: when Cole Bishop was out hurt. So yeah, he'll get

1719
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 2: pushed by some younger players, you know, like a Brandon Codrington,

1720
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 2: you know, and the draft pick Jordan Hancock. These are

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Speaker 2: guys that are up and coming that could push him

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Speaker 2: with a good camp. So yeah, you have reason to worry.

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Speaker 2: But that guy's paid his dues here and I would

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Speaker 2: argue he had his best season as a defender on

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Speaker 2: this team last year when he was pressed into duty.

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Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of intrigue about this season because, let's

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Speaker 4: face it, if the offense shows up and just repeats

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Speaker 4: what it did a year ago, this team will go

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Speaker 4: as far as its defense takes it. Everything else is

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Speaker 4: in place, the offense is humming along obviously if injuries

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Speaker 4: and all of that, but this team will go as

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Speaker 4: far as this defense will take it. Last year, through

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Speaker 4: the course of basically the turnover margin, they got them

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Speaker 4: all the way to the AFC Championship.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo's Give seven to one six returns beginning at seven

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Speaker 2: sixteen pm on July fifteenth, that's tomorrow, and runs until

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Speaker 2: eleven fifty nine pm on July sixteenth. As you know,

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Speaker 2: the goal of Give seven one six is to unite

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Speaker 2: Bills and Sabers fans with the Western New York community

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Speaker 2: in an epic, widespread day of giving. Give seven one

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Speaker 2: six will bring together individuals, groups, and businesses, and support

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Speaker 2: of any nonprofit headquartered or providing services in Eerie, Niagara Orleans, Genesee, Wyoming, Allegheny, Cattaraugus,

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Speaker 2: and Chautauqua Counties. Registration is now open for all local

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Speaker 2: charities who wish to be a part of the event.

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Speaker 2: To register a Western New York charity, give seven one

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Speaker 2: six Just visit give seven one six dot org. Gotta

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Speaker 2: take a break here. Some final thoughts on the tweetchee

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Speaker 2: when we return here on One Bills Live presented by

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Speaker 2: Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bills all right back here on

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Speaker 2: one Bill's Live. Some final thoughts on the tweets sheet.

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Speaker 2: Where we were asking you today, what will draw most

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Speaker 2: of your attention at this year is Bill's training camp.

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Speaker 2: You want to check the poll results, go to at

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Speaker 2: one Bill's Live on X but Dan says, I'll be

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Speaker 2: washing to see what Josh Allen has worked on this offseason.

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01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 2: Season one, he worked on his throwing mechanics, made huge gains.

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01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 2: Last year he worked on turnovers and said records. I

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01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 2: want to see what he spent his off season trying

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01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 2: to get better at what we told you. He said

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Speaker 2: he was working on during the spring practices this offseason

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01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 2: was his ability to read pre snap faster, you know,

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Speaker 2: diagnose what the defense is going to be thrown at him.

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Speaker 2: So that was his focus this offseason. I wouldn't be

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Speaker 2: surprised if he also focused on trying to hit some

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Speaker 2: more deep shots. Had a handful of them last year

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Speaker 2: that were there to be made, and you know, for

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Speaker 2: whatever reason, he and the receivers did not connect. I

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Speaker 2: would imagine he wants to get better at some of

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Speaker 2: those too, because there were you know, you can count

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Speaker 2: about a half dozen that were there to be made.

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Speaker 2: I remember the one down in Houston, maccollins is behind

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Speaker 2: the defense. They can't connect. He had one with Valdis

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Speaker 2: scantling here in an early home game while he was

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Speaker 2: still on the roster. Couldn't connect on that one.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, the famous one is the one they just

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01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 4: missed in Kansas City with Kincage sliding trying to stop.

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Speaker 3: In that thing.

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Speaker 2: Oh at the end of the game, the end of

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Speaker 2: the game.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, there's those are like off the cuff plays.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how you.

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Speaker 4: Prepare to do better at that because it's a two

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Speaker 4: way street, both the guy the other ear end and

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Speaker 4: the guy at the other end. There was a there

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Speaker 4: was a game I saw Keon Coleman when Josh hit

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Speaker 4: one out of desperation, put the ball in the money

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Speaker 4: and hit keyon as he's diving forward way down the

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Speaker 4: field in the middle of people, hit him right right

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Speaker 4: in the hands in the basket and he just couldn't

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Speaker 4: couldn't hang on to it. Those are those are tough

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Speaker 4: plays on both ends of the row. Not obviously Josh.

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Speaker 4: He's MVP and he's got this anything. He gets a

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Speaker 4: lot of credit for making that throw. But you gotta

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Speaker 4: have guys who can pull those in, and it's a

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Speaker 4: it's just as great an effort, a heroic play on

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Speaker 4: the other end, and sometimes it's you know, you can't

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Speaker 4: count on it to happen every time.

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Speaker 2: Jay Biggs on the tweet, she says, I think the

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Speaker 2: lowest fans choice is the most important. With free agent additions.

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Speaker 2: More looks like a steal. People say, Keon isn't a

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Speaker 2: true X, so is Palmer? The answer? Can they replace

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Speaker 2: the Cooper mac production? Is Bosa going to be healthy?

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Speaker 2: Is there space for Chanault if he looks good forrest

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Speaker 2: competition at safety? Yeah, I was surprised there wasn't more

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Speaker 2: fans support for the free agent additions, you know, with

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Speaker 2: this poll today, Because he's right, I think More is

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Speaker 2: a steel Keon. They're obviously going to give him room

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Speaker 2: to grow this year because Cooper is not back, so

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Speaker 2: he's going to be outside even more than we saw

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Speaker 2: last year. And I don't know if Palmer is going

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Speaker 2: to be outside all the time, but you would think

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Speaker 2: that way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jay biggs On the guy who twe did that.

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Speaker 4: Most fans, most fans opinions trails what occurs on the field.

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Speaker 4: They don't go into training camp thinking that. But you're right,

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Speaker 4: free agent signings unless it's a quarterback or you know,

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Speaker 4: one of those guys. Know the D line, the defensive backs,

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Speaker 4: the corners in certainly safeties like forests, those guys are

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Speaker 4: you just wait and see how they play. Most fans do. So,

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Speaker 4: you know, we didn't know what we had Mac Hollins

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Speaker 4: last year. Right, Everybody's like, who the guy? And he

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Speaker 4: ends up He's taken all these snaps and they're like,

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Speaker 4: what's going on? And we find out most people are,

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Speaker 4: you know, content to wait and see. They're not really

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Speaker 4: looking forward to it in training camp to check these

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Speaker 4: guys out. Some of them are, though, and we see

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Speaker 4: them every day over there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, I'm like I said when we had

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Speaker 2: Steven ruiz On, I think they've they've leveled up the

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Speaker 2: receiving corps, at least from a talent perspective. Top to bottom,

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Speaker 2: they should be a little bit better.

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Speaker 3: Good to be back.

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Speaker 2: It is good to be back. We'll do it all

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Speaker 2: again tomorrow. We'll see it one