WEBVTT - Trading Passcodes

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<v Speaker 1>Hell I suck a darn I heard radio podcast. What's

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<v Speaker 1>up everyone, and welcome to an all new episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Help I Suck at Dating. As always, I'm de Gungler

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<v Speaker 1>joined in his luxury apartment with wait no, in Jared's

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<v Speaker 1>luxury apartment. Jared have ben I have a luxury apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>This is news to me, dude. Look at all the

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<v Speaker 1>pigs on the wall. It's definitely luxury. That defines luxury.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if that defines luxury, then I'm living in

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<v Speaker 1>a mansion. Yeah, you got a lot of pigs there. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got a great episode for you guys today. Be

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<v Speaker 1>sure to stick around for all of it. We have

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<v Speaker 1>Jen Kirsh who's gonna be calling in later on. She's

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<v Speaker 1>got a sweet new podcast. We want you to all

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<v Speaker 1>hear all about it. Um. We also have Jared fresh

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<v Speaker 1>off of a steamy workout, sweaty and stinky as can be,

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<v Speaker 1>just as we like him. Um. And then we can

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<v Speaker 1>get some listeners listener emails later on, because we have

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<v Speaker 1>been doing such a good job of putting that off

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<v Speaker 1>for so long. But first and foremost, Jared, you update

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<v Speaker 1>us with your life. We know you're back in l

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<v Speaker 1>a back in l A. Oh yeah, man, Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm stinky. Do you guys ever, like get concerned that

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<v Speaker 1>if you sit in a chair after working out in

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<v Speaker 1>your sweaty that the chair is gonna start smelling. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>concerned that the chair is gonna stink. I've absolutely never

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<v Speaker 1>thought of that once. Is that a fact? Eastern you're

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<v Speaker 1>nodding ahead your head. Well, I mean, I worry about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's a fact. I think you'll

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<v Speaker 1>be okay as long as you don't sit there for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. But you're gonna be there for an

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<v Speaker 1>hour and a half, so I will say similar similar wavelength.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm worried sometimes when I'm sitting in my car and

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<v Speaker 1>I fart into my seat that the fart you get

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<v Speaker 1>stuck in the seat for longer than it should and

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<v Speaker 1>then my car smells like fart for longer than it should. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you want, like I guess, if you're in the

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<v Speaker 1>car by yourself, you want the fart out. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you're in the car with Kalin, don't you want the

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<v Speaker 1>far to stay in there just so he doesn't smell it?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I would prefer not to, you know, do

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, pull the move. Like when I'm on a

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<v Speaker 1>plane and I have to fart, I will you like

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<v Speaker 1>you push your weight down on the sea as if

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<v Speaker 1>you're smothering the fart. I have no scientific knowledge if

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<v Speaker 1>that actually works, but I do it every time. You

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<v Speaker 1>figured that making it louder. Yeah, that sounds like gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get louder. I've never thought of that before. What I

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<v Speaker 1>do when I need to fart on an airplane is

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<v Speaker 1>I just uh, well, this is gonna be a little

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<v Speaker 1>too much information here, guys. But the reason that parts

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<v Speaker 1>parts make noises is because it's your butt cheeks flapping together.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you just spread your butt cheeks apart and

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<v Speaker 1>you little go a little fart, it's not gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>any noise. Use that as you will. But if you're

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<v Speaker 1>in public and you get a fart out, just spread

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<v Speaker 1>your butt cheeks apart and you're not gonna make a noise.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you do that discreetly? Well, like if you're

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<v Speaker 1>sitting on the airplane, just like say, you move your

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<v Speaker 1>hand down and you grab the outside of your butt

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<v Speaker 1>cheek and then just kind of like discreetly pull it

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<v Speaker 1>and then go ahead and push the fart. Out, So

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<v Speaker 1>it just looks like you gotta like a little itch

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<v Speaker 1>down there when you're actually spreading your ass cheeks. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, And let's be honest, it's not like anyone's

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<v Speaker 1>really like Hawkeye watching what I'm doing with my hands.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you're very You're a public figure. I

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<v Speaker 1>literally just far didn't nobody even noticed. Well, it's because

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<v Speaker 1>you're under this blanket. So Dean was I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty minutes late, as per usual, and he had

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<v Speaker 1>to set up. And actually, interestingly enough, you couldn't use

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<v Speaker 1>your phone, Dean, because you came obviously unprepared for the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast with seven percent on power on your phone, so

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<v Speaker 1>you had to use Kalen's phone. And you got up

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<v Speaker 1>and I realized, Tory, and I realized that you and

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<v Speaker 1>Caitlin know each other's passwords, phone passwords. Yeah, well, not

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<v Speaker 1>only our phone passwords. We have each other's like Facebook password,

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram password, every password you can imagine. We have each

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<v Speaker 1>other's passwords. I have like my face on her phone.

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<v Speaker 1>She has her face on my phone little log in

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<v Speaker 1>is that intend Well, not the face like obviously Ashley's

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<v Speaker 1>face on my phone, but with the passwords? Is that intentional?

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<v Speaker 1>Where you got Is this like a trust thing or

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<v Speaker 1>did that? Is it coincidental? I think it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>thing that's like hey, over time, it's like, hey, I

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<v Speaker 1>need to get into your Facebook for something, what's your password? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>here's my password? Or I need to get onto your

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<v Speaker 1>PayPal account? What's your password? Here's my password? And then

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<v Speaker 1>you just memorize it over time. You know Eastern do

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<v Speaker 1>you uh and your wife exchange passwords? Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>your wife's your I do? I know the code for

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<v Speaker 1>her phone, I know her her passwords to everything she know.

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<v Speaker 1>We've started just we just used the same This is

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<v Speaker 1>probably bad, but we use this a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>same passwords for almost everything. Oh yeah, absolutely, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So it makes it easier, but so is your Is

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<v Speaker 1>your like Instagram loggan password the same as her Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>loggan password? At this point it is okay, got youa

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<v Speaker 1>got you? So Caitlin and I are different, but we

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<v Speaker 1>use the same password that that we use for that

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<v Speaker 1>for most things, Like I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>do you know what I mean? Very insecure, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is what a lot of people do. The hackers Paradise

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<v Speaker 1>Tory would you ever go through a guy's phone. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to think if I ever had in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think I've ever been like hand over

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<v Speaker 1>your phone. But then again, I mean I dated cheaters,

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<v Speaker 1>so I must have just been oblivious to it. What

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<v Speaker 1>stage do you do that? Yeah, I think if you

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<v Speaker 1>were ever to go through someone's phone, the relationships are

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<v Speaker 1>already over. Like if you go through someone's phone with

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<v Speaker 1>the intent of like finding something bad, not like just

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<v Speaker 1>to go through the phone because you need to use

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<v Speaker 1>it to call or text someone, then the relationships basically

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<v Speaker 1>run its course at that point. Have you two ever

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<v Speaker 1>gone through your significant other's phone and asked them to

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<v Speaker 1>delete something like a picture or maybe you mean like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you still follow this person? I don't really like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you one follow? Probably? I do remember for some

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<v Speaker 1>reason this thing that sticks out to me. When I

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<v Speaker 1>was in college, I was dating a girl and she

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<v Speaker 1>posted an album on Facebook, and I think like in

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<v Speaker 1>one of the pictures, like her top row down a

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<v Speaker 1>little too much and so like like part of her

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<v Speaker 1>nip was sticking out, and as a courtesy, I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>just so you know, your nipples like kind of sticking

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<v Speaker 1>out in this picture, and she like immediately deleted it.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was like the only time I think I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever just as a heads up, you went full Janet

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson super Bowl two thousand five. Yeah, you might want

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<v Speaker 1>to delete that photo. I never asked Ashley to delete

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<v Speaker 1>a photo, but she did delete one because she knew

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<v Speaker 1>that it really pissed me off. So I didn't ask

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<v Speaker 1>her to do it, but she just knew how I

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<v Speaker 1>felt about it, so she did it voluntarily, which was

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<v Speaker 1>very sweet of her. I don't know if I've ever deleted,

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<v Speaker 1>if she's ever asked me to delete photos on my Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's like anything. I never really dated anybody,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't have like any ex girl friend on

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<v Speaker 1>my Instagram's just Facebook and my facebooks private, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I never checked Facebook. That's funny. I think I know

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what picture you're talking about. I think you probably do.

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<v Speaker 1>Really was that like there was a movie reference towards

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<v Speaker 1>another man, and uh, you know, a big movie guy,

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<v Speaker 1>big movie guy. So that was less of her to

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<v Speaker 1>not require you to ask, and she just did it

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<v Speaker 1>on her own free will. Uh, I think once, but

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<v Speaker 1>because I think we probably were talking about it one

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<v Speaker 1>time one we were, you know, in our relationship, uncomfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, talking about like the past, and when certain

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<v Speaker 1>situations came up that made her upset or situations that

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<v Speaker 1>made me upset, and I probably brought it up and

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, you know, one time I was really

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<v Speaker 1>piste off, and you know it was when this got posted,

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<v Speaker 1>and I never said anything because it wasn't my place.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I think she deleted after that because she

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<v Speaker 1>it just didn't really you know, I mean it, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you would actually just celebrated an anniversary, right, well, we

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<v Speaker 1>had it was one year since our engagement. This was

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<v Speaker 1>like two or three weeks ago. I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>more recent one year, two years since your first date

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<v Speaker 1>or something. Oh, it was no. So when we first

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<v Speaker 1>started dating in two I was in eighteen we um.

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<v Speaker 1>We we went on a date to Griffith Park because

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<v Speaker 1>I love La La Land and that's where Ryan Gosling

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<v Speaker 1>and Emma Stone go in the movie Sorry my dog

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<v Speaker 1>is barking in the background. If you're can hear little Lowest.

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<v Speaker 1>She gets very excited any time I talked about La

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<v Speaker 1>La Land. What we they went to Griffith Park and

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<v Speaker 1>emmistone in the movie Where's the Yellow Dress? And so

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<v Speaker 1>our first like official date as a couple, we went

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<v Speaker 1>there where they went. Ashley wore yellow dress, We listened

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<v Speaker 1>to music, like, had drinks a out of like a

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<v Speaker 1>little picnic, and then so we did the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, there's nothing else to do right now,

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<v Speaker 1>so we did the exact same thing. We went to

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<v Speaker 1>Griffith Park, went to the same place. She wore the

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<v Speaker 1>exact same dress. It was just a nice moment. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been like, you know, over two and a half years

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<v Speaker 1>since our first date as a couple, like in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>So we just documented it because it's just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was cute. It was cute. You can do that

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<v Speaker 1>every year from here on until you die. Every year.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing is, I don't want too many anniversaries.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's too many anniversaries. Anniversary of first date,

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<v Speaker 1>anniversary of engagement, anniversary of marriage, anniversary of like the

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<v Speaker 1>first time we saw a movie together, the anniversary of

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<v Speaker 1>the first time we cooked together. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like I was telling Ashley because there was

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<v Speaker 1>some anniversary. She was like, oh my god, this is

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<v Speaker 1>oh it was the anniversary when we first met in

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<v Speaker 1>paradise and tell us a fifteen and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, there's too many anniversaries. There's too much. It's

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<v Speaker 1>getting diluted. It doesn't mean as much. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate our wedding anniversary, which is coming up. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>anniversary moving forward that we should celebrate together once a year,

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<v Speaker 1>between birthdays, holidays, anniversaries. It's too much. We need one anniversary.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm settling right now. And it's almost like streams

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<v Speaker 1>right now, because the day that we met is a

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<v Speaker 1>very important anniversary and the only one that I will

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<v Speaker 1>I will have to stick up for her. That was actually, hih,

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<v Speaker 1>ladies and gentlemen, you forget everything I said. I apologize.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't mean, oh my god, every anniversary. The whip

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<v Speaker 1>is so strong. The whip is so strong. I celebrate

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<v Speaker 1>every anniversary. I see so many people celebrating anniversary of engagement,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, should I have been celebrating that

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<v Speaker 1>the whole time? I'm like behind like three years, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think the wedding isn't the wedding celebrating the engagement technically, yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they're on two different days. Yes. The only

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<v Speaker 1>reason I posted about it was because it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was well, I guess it was. It's a cute moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you're sucking. Have you guys ever seen Parks and

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<v Speaker 1>Record when Leslie Nope, is like the exact same as

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<v Speaker 1>Actually it sounds like where she has like all these

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<v Speaker 1>anniversaries like first time we ate at J J Stein

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<v Speaker 1>or first time that we said we're best friends, and

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<v Speaker 1>then yeah, that sounds like it's you just need to

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<v Speaker 1>have like a couple of anniversaries you got like that,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the wedding anniversary, maybe the first kiss anniversary, and

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<v Speaker 1>then that's it. Well, it depends on on your stage

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<v Speaker 1>in relationship. Like Dean, you, you and Calin have to

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate when you guys like officially became a couple. That's

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<v Speaker 1>like your anniversary. I feel like, yeah, we have that

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<v Speaker 1>anniversary of the day that I dumped her as an anniversary.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh. No, yeah, we've got all the great anniversaries.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, I will say, though, I wonder why, like

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like anniversaries do mean more And maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>guys can find me on this, but I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>the anniversaries do mean more to women than men. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's probably pretty accurate, but why, Like, why

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't that excite you as much as us? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny we get more excited than you got. You

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<v Speaker 1>know why that's funny You bring that up because we

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<v Speaker 1>got a d M on help I such a dating

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<v Speaker 1>instagram and I won't say who it is, but the

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<v Speaker 1>title is Universal Truth about Men, and so it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of segways nicely. Why maybe maybe why men don't love

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<v Speaker 1>anniversaries as much? It says Hi Dean, Jared Tory and

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully Mark and Easton. I am playing catch up on

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<v Speaker 1>my podcast since Quarantine hit. Unfortunately, I have had plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of work to keep me busy, so it has been

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to keep up. I just listened to the episode

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<v Speaker 1>with the first Universal Truth about men and women, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I would share Universal truth about men that

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<v Speaker 1>my mom shared with me when I was thirteen or fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Men never mature past the age of twelve. Now, before

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<v Speaker 1>you deny it and get offended like so many guys

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<v Speaker 1>have when I said this, please hear me out. While

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<v Speaker 1>men never mature past the age of twelve, they do

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<v Speaker 1>learn and adapt to act age appropriately and make appropriate decisions. However,

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<v Speaker 1>they can only maintain their cover for so long, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll always have a friend, group of friends, video game, movie, band,

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<v Speaker 1>or something that brings out the twelve year old. They

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<v Speaker 1>really are, often with alcohol involved. I have headed this

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<v Speaker 1>advice and believe it has saved me many nights of

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<v Speaker 1>confusion and questioning the male gender. It has not, though,

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<v Speaker 1>saved my fiance from numerous eye rolls when his twelve

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<v Speaker 1>year old and his friends appear. Thanks for always keeping

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<v Speaker 1>it interesting and provided professor perspectives from daters and those

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<v Speaker 1>of his committed relationships to universal truth. Uh. If universal

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<v Speaker 1>Truce were a one hit wonder, than please disregard love

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<v Speaker 1>you all. Uh. So this woman thinks that men don't age,

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<v Speaker 1>don't mature past the past the age of twelve. I

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<v Speaker 1>think twelve is a little Uh, she's short changing us

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Maybe they just sixteen. I wish people

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<v Speaker 1>could see Dean right now and what he looks like,

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<v Speaker 1>because he looks like you guessed it. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>provide the best audio for you guys out here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to. I'm working with different things, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not blanket. By the way, it's a frozen blanket, rosen blanket. Yeah. No,

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<v Speaker 1>we really mature past the age of twelve. We're listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think though, this is my universal truth. You

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<v Speaker 1>always subtract four years when dating a man. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five, if I date another twenty five year old,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm technically dating a twenty one year old. Well wise,

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<v Speaker 1>not technically, it's definitely it's kind of like the opposite

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<v Speaker 1>of whatever technically is what says the men wearing. And

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<v Speaker 1>you add years to a woman's age for maturity, then like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're pretty like when you guys are perfect right, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>women don't need any work. I forgot about that that too,

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<v Speaker 1>But also scientifically, like men's like frontal lobes and like

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<v Speaker 1>neurons don't fully connect until they're twenty six or twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>and women are as connect at the age of eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>So I feel like after eighteen, we're pretty much like

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<v Speaker 1>maturity wise there at the same age that we are.

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<v Speaker 1>For men, You guys, you got to subtract four years,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I dating is actually really hard because you're technically

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<v Speaker 1>dating the guy who still would love to be like

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<v Speaker 1>drunk at a club, maybe taking a line of coke.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you're like so, when you're sixty five, though

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to really be dating the sixty one year

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<v Speaker 1>old and that's when it really that's full stride. Maybe. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>that's interesting. Yeah, I think that really only applies to

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<v Speaker 1>like late twenties and before, because once you get to

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<v Speaker 1>like forty four or thirty six, really isn't that big

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<v Speaker 1>of a difference. I guess I do agree that men.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's pretty universally understood that men take a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit longer to mature than women do. Uh. Speaking

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<v Speaker 1>from my personal experience, I still think that I have

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<v Speaker 1>got some ways to go here obviously, But it did,

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<v Speaker 1>it did. It did come in more force in my

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<v Speaker 1>late twenties. Uh. And so I do agree with you

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<v Speaker 1>when I was twenty five, if I was acting like

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<v Speaker 1>I was twenty one. Still. Um, But I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>about the twelve year old thing. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>we stayed twelve forever, Jared, what do you think? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. There is a part of me that's twelve

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<v Speaker 1>years old. Like I always say, I'm a kid at heart.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, talk to me when I go to like

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<v Speaker 1>Disney World, I'm I'm not even twelve. I'm seven when

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<v Speaker 1>I go to Disney World. Or how I talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady, I mean that is a twelve year old.

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<v Speaker 1>When I talk about Tom Brady, I am twelve years old,

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. There's a part of me that

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<v Speaker 1>agrees with it. Um, But we do have to get

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<v Speaker 1>to Jen Kirsh. That's what I was gonna segway too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Jen Kersh is not twelve years old, and we will

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<v Speaker 1>not talk to her like twelve year old side there,

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<v Speaker 1>So quick wrap up with the first one. Uh, you

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<v Speaker 1>should have passwords to your significant others phones. We're all

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<v Speaker 1>in agreeance on that one. Yeah, yes and no. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we can pick that up at a later time.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have to go through your significant other's phone,

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<v Speaker 1>probably some bigger issues there, so maybe get out of

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<v Speaker 1>that relationship. Hopefully it doesn't come to that. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's tattoo and men. Uh don't mature past the

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<v Speaker 1>age of twelve. Alright, so we're all in agreeance on

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<v Speaker 1>that one. We have Jen Kirsh coming up. She's calling

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<v Speaker 1>in right now. But before we talk to her, let's

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<v Speaker 1>take a quick break. Welcome back to help I suck

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<v Speaker 1>at dating. We have very special guests who's on the

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<v Speaker 1>line right now. She's the host of the podcast lock

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<v Speaker 1>Down Love and if you're looking for love during Quarantine,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the podcast to listen to. Also our podcast

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<v Speaker 1>obviously we have Jen Kersch on the line. Jen thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for so much for joining us. Yeah, thank you guys

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<v Speaker 1>for having me on here. Oh you're welcome. I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, guys, I was listening to the to a

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<v Speaker 1>recent episode of Yours where you had some singles on

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<v Speaker 1>talking about their quarantine dating experiences. What do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I probably look like a crazy person

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<v Speaker 1>walking down the street talking to them. Like my I

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<v Speaker 1>had like my head set in and I'm literally talking

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<v Speaker 1>to them. I wanted to give them all advice and

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<v Speaker 1>tell them what they were doing right and wrong, especially

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that we're talking about hitting up x is

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<v Speaker 1>yet not acute. Look, it's so easy. It's so easy.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to be like validated and loved and cared

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<v Speaker 1>for and connecting with someone during these times when it's

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<v Speaker 1>such a challenge to find connection when we're all locked

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<v Speaker 1>down at our homes. But like the ex is, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a reason it ended. I like to think, like, let's

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<v Speaker 1>not go back and do a way back. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with what you saying it's almost it's like lazy almost. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like people do. I think they glorify their relationship and

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<v Speaker 1>so when they look back on it, they only think

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<v Speaker 1>of the good times and then they forget about all

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<v Speaker 1>the bad times. And then when they get back together

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<v Speaker 1>with their X, they realized, oh, that's right, we have

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<v Speaker 1>more differences than we do similarities, right. And then there's

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<v Speaker 1>a thing that comes with comfort of an X is

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<v Speaker 1>that there's a comfort of getting back into the bad

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<v Speaker 1>habits of fighting or arguing. So it's just a dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>area and territory. It's I feel like we need to

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<v Speaker 1>like treat ourselves better and you know, reach higher and

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<v Speaker 1>challenge ourselves to get to know other people during this

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<v Speaker 1>time because a lot of us, dependent on where we're living,

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<v Speaker 1>are still stuck indoors. All right, gen, let me ask

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<v Speaker 1>you how are we going to do that? Though? That's

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<v Speaker 1>the question at hand right now, is because even in

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<v Speaker 1>your podcast you talk about like you want to meet

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<v Speaker 1>new people, but you want to do it smartly. And

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<v Speaker 1>so what advice do you have for single people out

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<v Speaker 1>there who are going through a period of loneliness and

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to text their X. But also, how can

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<v Speaker 1>you safely meet someone new. I mean, you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>put yourself out there a bit. And I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>used to always say to people for advice, like prince

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<v Speaker 1>charming or Princess charming, whatever you want to say is

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<v Speaker 1>not going to show up in your den or your

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<v Speaker 1>bedroom while you're sitting at home like eating Derrito's. But

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<v Speaker 1>now they can visa VR phone, which is really great,

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<v Speaker 1>So like shoot your shot. If you're interested in someone

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<v Speaker 1>of someone's future interest, now it was a great time

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<v Speaker 1>to see if there's something there because you're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to mess around with hooking up to student and all

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<v Speaker 1>these other things that get in the way. So slide

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<v Speaker 1>into the d m s. Maybe go on dating apps

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<v Speaker 1>if you haven't tried them and you want to meet

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<v Speaker 1>someone outside your circle, or maybe there's someone inside your

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<v Speaker 1>circle or someone that's caught your eye that you could

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<v Speaker 1>reach out to. And I think the d m s,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know you guys have talked about d

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<v Speaker 1>m s and getting d ms from people and other

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<v Speaker 1>guests talking about them, but it's such a great way

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<v Speaker 1>to connect with someone and see if there's an interest

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<v Speaker 1>there because you're making yourself known right off the bat.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say just uh kind of on topics. Kaitlin

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<v Speaker 1>and I went out to dinner last week and we

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<v Speaker 1>we sat outside as other restaurants in Santa Monica allow,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like we saw a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>on first dates, you know, you know when you can

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of see someone and like the see a

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<v Speaker 1>cup and see and kind of tell like, oh, they

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<v Speaker 1>haven't really interacted a whole lot for sure. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>encourage people to take it past that step of d

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<v Speaker 1>M on Instagram or bumble or whatever it is and

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<v Speaker 1>meeting up in person or what are your thoughts on that?

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<v Speaker 1>So if you asked me this last week, I would

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<v Speaker 1>say not yet, because we don't know if there's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be this other wave with COVID right now. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I left my house and I'm quarantined, like

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<v Speaker 1>this is my childhood room. There's like literally a picture

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<v Speaker 1>of an elephant behind me for you listeners. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>quarantined with my dad and it's been really great for

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<v Speaker 1>our relationship, but I'm worried about his health and so

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<v Speaker 1>I've been like literally in lockdown. But then I left

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<v Speaker 1>the house like old habits die hard, Like I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't go on a date with someone I saw

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<v Speaker 1>like this young guy across the way, and I sent

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<v Speaker 1>a shot over like a child that I am. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and how did it go? Yeah, I can't just end

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<v Speaker 1>the story there. Yeah, come on. So I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what my thing is. I've been working on my podcast

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<v Speaker 1>to like come to my senses and find an equal partner.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just have this thing for younger guys. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what it is. And there was this I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to say child because your listeners don't know

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<v Speaker 1>my humor yet and that sounds inappropriate. But there was

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<v Speaker 1>a younger gent, uh maybe early twenties something gent on

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<v Speaker 1>the patio, and so I sent over a shot a

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<v Speaker 1>bullet bullets bourbon, and you, I have no expectation a

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<v Speaker 1>I could afford it, and I have no expectation that

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<v Speaker 1>he'll give me something back. So you have that moment

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<v Speaker 1>when you send a shot um, that sort of nod moment.

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<v Speaker 1>You at least get a nod of acknowledgment, like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>happy with a nod. And honestly, at this point, leaving

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<v Speaker 1>my house, any single person was attractive, Like, if I

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<v Speaker 1>had the funds, I probably would have sent a shot

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<v Speaker 1>to everyone on the patio. I don't have the funds.

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<v Speaker 1>So I sent it to this one guy and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just line them all up, take what I could get.

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<v Speaker 1>And I sent it over and I think he just

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was like a really classy and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that we often wait for opportunities to come away, but

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<v Speaker 1>why not create them? And so I got an odd

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<v Speaker 1>and then he came over, and then friends came over

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<v Speaker 1>because I was with friends, and I'm like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>not doing quarantine right, Like I've been safe at my

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<v Speaker 1>childhood home with my father, who's cool as and then

0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:26.360
<v Speaker 1>I leave the house once and I'm like, fallen back

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<v Speaker 1>into my old trap and old ways of being that

0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:31.600
<v Speaker 1>I've worked like eight weeks not to do anymore. All

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<v Speaker 1>of this is to say, Dean is like you saw

0:22:34.600 --> 0:22:37.200
<v Speaker 1>people on first dates. And I would have knocked this

0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:40.200
<v Speaker 1>if I spoke to a week ago. And now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like this whole other woman, and I'm like, I get it.

0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:45.560
<v Speaker 1>We want to connect you to our lucky gentlemen, to

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<v Speaker 1>have the women that you have in your lives and

0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:50.840
<v Speaker 1>to be quarantined with them, you know, like you guys.

0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:53.879
<v Speaker 1>Despite I'm sure there are some challenges as well, and

0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:57.480
<v Speaker 1>getting used to but you're so lucky to have that,

0:22:57.680 --> 0:22:59.680
<v Speaker 1>and I'm lucky to have my dad here. But for

0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:02.960
<v Speaker 1>those who are singling alone, it is a really challenging time.

0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:06.680
<v Speaker 1>So although they are fun to like people watch and

0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:09.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe poke fun at being on an awkward first date,

0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:12.879
<v Speaker 1>there is something sweet happening there too. Oh it's so sweet.

0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:15.440
<v Speaker 1>I think that's why we we kind of not poke

0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:18.520
<v Speaker 1>fun at it, but are so fascinated by first dates

0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:22.720
<v Speaker 1>because it is awkward, but it's also endearing. Um it is.

0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:25.200
<v Speaker 1>It's sweet and like, you know when you're on the

0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:27.480
<v Speaker 1>first date that people are watching you, but I think

0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:30.000
<v Speaker 1>you feel so good being out with someone finally that

0:23:30.080 --> 0:23:33.880
<v Speaker 1>you don't give a yeah. And honestly, yeah, I don't

0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:35.840
<v Speaker 1>don't care if people are looking at you, And honestly,

0:23:36.040 --> 0:23:38.280
<v Speaker 1>most of the time people aren't looking at you. Let's

0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:41.840
<v Speaker 1>be honest. There's there's a phrase that I like. It says,

0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:47.280
<v Speaker 1>when you're twenty, uh, you care about what everybody When

0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:49.119
<v Speaker 1>you're twenty, you care about how everybody looks at you.

0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:51.520
<v Speaker 1>When you're thirty, you don't care how anybody looks at you.

0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:54.080
<v Speaker 1>And when you forty you realize nobody was ever looking

0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:57.720
<v Speaker 1>And so when you go on the first date, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry about that, nobody cares. But my question is,

0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:04.000
<v Speaker 1>why did you pick a bullet? Well? Did he look

0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:05.879
<v Speaker 1>like a man's man? Because like, if you sent me

0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:08.360
<v Speaker 1>a shot a bullet, like that'd be nice. But I'm

0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:11.920
<v Speaker 1>always down for like uh you know, uh, some sort

0:24:11.960 --> 0:24:15.600
<v Speaker 1>of like fruity shot you know came to head, but

0:24:15.760 --> 0:24:17.040
<v Speaker 1>I came to my mind. But I don't know if

0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:20.119
<v Speaker 1>they're like they came to mind too. It's like, well,

0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:22.440
<v Speaker 1>for me, I just like bullet. That's a shot that

0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:24.919
<v Speaker 1>I genuinely wanted. I don't I don't even know how

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<v Speaker 1>to do a shot. Like when I say I'm doing

0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:28.879
<v Speaker 1>a shot, I probably take three different steps over like

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<v Speaker 1>the course of like five minutes. But that's the shot. Sure,

0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:35.720
<v Speaker 1>that's a nice way of putting it that I can't

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:38.560
<v Speaker 1>do a shot, but yes, and I just I that's

0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:40.560
<v Speaker 1>a shot that I like, so I wanted to enjoy it.

0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:43.320
<v Speaker 1>But I think that the shots could be changed up

0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:47.480
<v Speaker 1>based on someone's personality. I also like to send women

0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:50.399
<v Speaker 1>shots sometimes, like if I and not in a flirty

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:53.920
<v Speaker 1>romantic way, but if I see someone, you know, even

0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:55.800
<v Speaker 1>though I'm in Toronto and it's a big city, it's

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<v Speaker 1>quite small. I go out a lot for events during

0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:02.439
<v Speaker 1>normal time, no pre COVID. So if I see someone

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<v Speaker 1>um that I admire in the room or someone that

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I would have seen out and about, I'd like to

0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:09.440
<v Speaker 1>send a shot. I think it's just a classy move

0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:11.720
<v Speaker 1>for such a small price, and it really makes people happy.

0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:14.840
<v Speaker 1>It's so interesting, something I've never thought of. Well, it's

0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:18.480
<v Speaker 1>not like, it's not I mean, it has to be genuine,

0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Like you can't just send a drink because you want

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:22.440
<v Speaker 1>to get in someone's pants, or like you send a

0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:24.679
<v Speaker 1>drink because you want something out of someone, You need

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:26.960
<v Speaker 1>to do it genuinely because you want to make them happy.

0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to wrack my brain right now and think

0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:31.160
<v Speaker 1>of if there's ever been a moment where I should

0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:33.360
<v Speaker 1>have sent a guy a shot from across the bar,

0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:35.280
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure there have been plenty, but now it's

0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:37.480
<v Speaker 1>definitely something I'm going to try and keep my in

0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 1>my arsenal. Let's say I'm out with some friends. Yeah,

0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:46.119
<v Speaker 1>it's but as a as a person receiving a drink

0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:48.440
<v Speaker 1>from someone across the bar, that's not trying to get like,

0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:50.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, any action or anything like that. How do

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:52.359
<v Speaker 1>you respond to that? You just like, I want to

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 1>do this like a like like a salute kind of

0:25:56.160 --> 0:26:01.600
<v Speaker 1>like can you just smile? And that's it. And that's

0:26:01.640 --> 0:26:03.399
<v Speaker 1>when it goes back to the person who sends it

0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:06.119
<v Speaker 1>in the first place. If they're a mature and secure

0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:09.600
<v Speaker 1>enough person, they'll salute back, do the shot, and go

0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:12.359
<v Speaker 1>about their evening with whoever they're with or themselves or

0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:14.960
<v Speaker 1>their book or their phone. And if not, it's just

0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:18.159
<v Speaker 1>like that's a whole other issue of people, because like,

0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 1>if you're doing it for a means to an end

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:23.400
<v Speaker 1>and someone gives you the salute, you might go into

0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:26.600
<v Speaker 1>the shame spiral about how you're not a truck, Like

0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 1>you're going to start to think of all your insecurities

0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 1>and then it's just going to go downhill from there.

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Hold on, So you're saying, if somebody sends me a

0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 1>shot and I don't go over and say something that's

0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:39.720
<v Speaker 1>not rude of me, if I just call if like literally,

0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:40.960
<v Speaker 1>if you send me a shot and it just turn

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:43.399
<v Speaker 1>over and I'm like, give you the head nod, that's it.

0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:46.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel like for me, I would go over and

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:50.119
<v Speaker 1>be like, thank you so much. Say something, right, but

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:53.520
<v Speaker 1>you I think that is the nice thing, and that's

0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:55.879
<v Speaker 1>probably a bit of the hope of what would come

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:57.960
<v Speaker 1>of it. Again, you guys are different because you're on

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:00.439
<v Speaker 1>your people know who you guys or so if they

0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:02.320
<v Speaker 1>see you out and about, it's like they probably want

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 1>you to come over to talk to them, and then

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:06.720
<v Speaker 1>it creates a whole thing. But I don't know. I

0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:08.679
<v Speaker 1>think you could just if you're not into it, if

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:11.400
<v Speaker 1>you're married, if you're with someone that could get offended.

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:14.480
<v Speaker 1>There's so many different factors. Then that's all right too

0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:20.119
<v Speaker 1>to get really lucky, probably because the other person just

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 1>came out lockdown as well and they were like, oh

0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:27.040
<v Speaker 1>my god, someone thinks this is good looking. You know.

0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:30.920
<v Speaker 1>He had his Raptor's hat on like backwards hot. Alright,

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:33.840
<v Speaker 1>So Phillisten keep carrying the story on what happened after

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:35.679
<v Speaker 1>he walked over the table, he brought his friends over.

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 1>He brought his friends over, and then he ordered me

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 1>a glass of rose, which was presumptuous, but I thought

0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 1>it was a great order. And then we all just

0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 1>started talking it that that like, you know, when you

0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:51.119
<v Speaker 1>start meeting people now it's like, what's your Instagram? As

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:54.119
<v Speaker 1>opposed to like with your number. So like, he was

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:57.840
<v Speaker 1>with a woman who was with her partner, and so

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 1>like they got me on Instagram and then we all

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:03.480
<v Speaker 1>sort of exchange stuff and then well I was busy

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:07.359
<v Speaker 1>chatting with him, my friends met these two guys that, um,

0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:10.399
<v Speaker 1>well they were twins, so obviously two guys, but they

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:13.120
<v Speaker 1>met twins. So they started talking. And then we were

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 1>in this area in Toronto called Yorkville, which is a

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a like kind of a little bit

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 1>of a stuck up area. It's not the most friendly place,

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:23.400
<v Speaker 1>and yet it was so interesting to go out during

0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:27.119
<v Speaker 1>lockdown and just connect with everyone. And I think that

0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 1>had a lot to do with this situation. So then

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>we all connected and then um, later on the next day,

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:37.880
<v Speaker 1>I got a message from the girl that was with him,

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 1>and she just wrote me she d she slid into

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<v Speaker 1>my d M s and she was just like, Hey,

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:46.240
<v Speaker 1>you met me in Yorkville. You're the one who tried

0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 1>to my friends. Um, big fan of your podcast and

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I've been reading your stuff for years, Like I really

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 1>can't wait to see your journey. And I was like,

0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty good. And I just wrote her back and

0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I was like best DM ever and just left it

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 1>at that. And I think that I got a little

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 1>wrapped up in that moment, like I am at the

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 1>point where I feel like I just want a partner

0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 1>to compliment where I'm at in life and not to

0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 1>like go around hooking up, especially now during COVID. So

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 1>I just felt like I just had a little relapse moment,

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 1>and I've learned from it, and I'm going to just

0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 1>move forward with the work that I've taken on and

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:31.040
<v Speaker 1>the and the woman that sent you that the end

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<v Speaker 1>the next day, she didn't mention anything about being a

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:34.920
<v Speaker 1>fan of the day before, did she she? I mean,

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 1>my memory is very foggy. There was the bullet, and

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 1>then the rose and and and and I don't even

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:44.880
<v Speaker 1>know what else and uh uh that was it. So

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:46.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if she mentioned it, but I assumed

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 1>she didn't, which I also find really cool. So you

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 1>don't seem like the type of person who thinks old

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 1>fashion and thinks, uh, the guy is supposed to buy

0:29:57.360 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 1>the girl the drink or the guy is supposed to

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 1>pay for the first date. Um. I mean, I I'm all,

0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:06.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm old fashioned the sense that I would like if

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 1>a guy is taking me out to sort of treat

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 1>me to a date because I like that sort of

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:13.520
<v Speaker 1>It's more it's not about the money. It's the idea

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 1>of that sort of old fashionedness or affection. It's almost

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>like I I see it as affection, not about the money.

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:25.160
<v Speaker 1>But um no, I don't think they're all approach you guy.

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:27.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're I don't have rules because I

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>just feel like we have one life to live. And

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 1>if someone catches your eye or you feel an energy

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 1>and you happen to be at the same place at

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:37.480
<v Speaker 1>the same time, why not go for it? Or if

0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 1>like a babe that is on that you notice on

0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Instagram and something about them attracts you, why not send

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 1>a message like what's the worst that could happen? They

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 1>don't right back, so you know what would be the

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 1>message you send? Like, I think that's a problem for

0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people out there. They're like, sure, I

0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 1>want to d M them? What the do I say? Right?

0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I am? I don't think that there's like the second

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 1>you have like this is the one liner I used

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:03.760
<v Speaker 1>for every guy and girl. That's the second that that's

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:06.720
<v Speaker 1>a bad one liner, Like you need to curate it

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 1>for each person based on their profile or what attracted you. So, um,

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I saw a guy on Ria the other day and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was cute, and I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>wait to see if Ria maybe matches us. Maybe I

0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:22.720
<v Speaker 1>don't come up like lives in a different city, so

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, like on Ria they show their Instagram handle.

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 1>So I just messaged him and I just used like

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 1>it's so lame, but I use like the hard eye emoji,

0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, Okay, this is me just saying I'm here,

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 1>and if he wants to write back, I could go

0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:41.960
<v Speaker 1>from there. But I don't need someone taking a screenshot

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 1>of me being super creep. I'd rather than just take

0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:47.280
<v Speaker 1>a screenshot of me with heart shape eyes. So it's like,

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 1>could have been in the wrong DM, But you were

0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 1>just saying how important it is to be specialized and

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 1>tailored towards the person you're reaching out to. That person

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I just thought, because of their backstory what I saw

0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 1>on their Raya account, like they are a cute see person.

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 1>I can't really get into it without disclosing maybe who

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 1>the person is, but it just seemed the most apropos

0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 1>But I also knew we had a mutual friend, which

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 1>someone I had history with, and I didn't want that

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 1>to come up. So that's why I was worried about

0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 1>the screen grab I have also done. This is me

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 1>sliding into your DM like I just want to let

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 1>someone know I exist. I will. I'll admit to you.

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 1>There is a younger guy from Bachelor Nation whose DM

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 1>s I've literally been thinking about sliding into for the

0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 1>past ten days. Younger guy, can you give us a hint? Um?

0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Is he local to Toronto and we can help? Is

0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 1>he local to Toronto? Not local Toronto? He has two

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:46.000
<v Speaker 1>of my same initials, but I guess you wouldn't know

0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 1>my middle name j P j oh Yeah, okay, gotcha,

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 1>got you? So I didn't. What's stopping you? Um, send

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 1>him one of these emode you send him a hang

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 1>loosemou oh that see. That would be very on brands

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:01.160
<v Speaker 1>from what I gard or his character to be. But

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:04.320
<v Speaker 1>what's interesting was you do like the younger man? I

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 1>do he I was listening to a podcast last week

0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 1>and he was on it and it was his voice.

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I totally. I mean, of course, I'm part of like

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 1>I love watching Bachelor and all that. I have a

0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 1>funny Bachelor connection story for you guys, but I've totally

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 1>forgot about him. And then I was listening to a

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 1>podcast last week that he was on, and ever since

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 1>that moment, I'm like, I just want to slide right in.

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 1>He's got like this very distinguished, gentleman type of voice

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 1>of it, but there's something very sexy and commanding about

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 1>his voice, and I think, again, I up until my

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 1>little oopsie last week, I've been in lockdown. So I

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 1>heard the voice and I was like, mm hmm, should

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 1>I go for it? Shouldn't? Should I nod? And I'm like,

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I have a podcast all about dating.

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I should be like reaching out

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:59.320
<v Speaker 1>to someone on the Bachelors, especially the only day. All

0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna do for yourself as get yourself more content

0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 1>to share on the podcast. So I absolutely go for it. Well,

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 1>I was even thinking. I actually I asked my manager

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:10.280
<v Speaker 1>and my producer. I was like, guys, should I should

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I d M him? Like I think we should invite

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:14.400
<v Speaker 1>him on the show, Like that's how I wanted to

0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 1>play it. And I was like, I asked my manager,

0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:20.759
<v Speaker 1>should you just email his manager? And then both him

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:23.320
<v Speaker 1>and my producer were like, just slide into his d M.

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know what I'm waiting for, maybe as waiting,

0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe as waiting for this moment or some like validation

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:32.160
<v Speaker 1>for this moment to gather up some some guts to

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:35.920
<v Speaker 1>do it, And now we've provided it for you. JPJ

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:37.800
<v Speaker 1>is an avid listener of Help I Secret Dating, so

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 1>he's probably gonna hear this and be on the lookout

0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:42.680
<v Speaker 1>for it, and then maybe he'll want to hop on

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 1>the podcast too. That's perfect. Oh my god, can we

0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>call him up? No, I'm kidding, UM, just putting you

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:51.640
<v Speaker 1>guys on the spot. I did want to say my

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Bachelor connection, Um I was. Producers reached out to me.

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:59.319
<v Speaker 1>It was about nine years ago. Um, just over nine

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:01.719
<v Speaker 1>years ago. Was like February or March nine years ago

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 1>to come on the show because I just had some

0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 1>connect some friends that had or I made friends that

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:09.360
<v Speaker 1>had been on it before, whatever the case was, and

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I had just I was two months into dating someone

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 1>that I thought would be the one, Like I was

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:18.920
<v Speaker 1>totally convinced, and so I passed off the opportunity, if

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:21.640
<v Speaker 1>you will, And it turns out that it was Ben's season.

0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:28.319
<v Speaker 1>Ben Higgins, No the other Ben that had like yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:30.880
<v Speaker 1>So you would have been on Courtney Robinson. She was

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 1>on that season. She's one of my favorite people that

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 1>have ever been on She's she just played the game

0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:42.800
<v Speaker 1>and it was so entertaining. Not that I'm a game player.

0:35:43.080 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I would have been like, love me. She's just awesome.

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 1>I've met her a couple of times a person, and

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:53.560
<v Speaker 1>she's just a yeah, yeah, she's super cool. But yeah, yeah,

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:55.440
<v Speaker 1>well before my time. I don't have much insight to

0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 1>provide on that one. That's like a way back, playback, right,

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 1>wats this season? But I obviously from being on the show,

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:05.200
<v Speaker 1>and Dean can attest this. You just like hear a

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 1>lot about previous seasons and people on it, and so

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I know I know of Ben and Courtney. Yeah, and

0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I know Courtney now right, So cool, very interesting? What

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 1>do you what have you guys? I don't mean to

0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:19.279
<v Speaker 1>like now I feel like I'm interviewing you guys, But

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 1>what are you guys? Is there any challenges you guys

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 1>are having um during lockdown, like relationship? Why is that

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:29.279
<v Speaker 1>I can help you with? Oh that's a great question,

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I'd say from being quarantined together with Ashley and I

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:36.920
<v Speaker 1>was spending seven together. It's certainly not that we're getting

0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:41.520
<v Speaker 1>on each other's nerves, but I think it's more uh,

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:47.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, just boredom and some slight frustration sets in.

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 1>And while I don't take it out on her, it

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:57.120
<v Speaker 1>definitely um hinders my overall mood. So I find myself

0:36:57.280 --> 0:37:02.440
<v Speaker 1>more uh slouching around. I don't know how to describe it.

0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:05.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm not as fun, yeah, and I don't know how

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 1>to change that because the way I gather energy, the

0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:12.879
<v Speaker 1>way I like, like get my most confident is by

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 1>like doing things, and I'm not doing that many things now,

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 1>so right an issue that's cool. I feel like it's

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 1>like just adding some things to a routine because I'm

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:27.439
<v Speaker 1>a freelancer, so I work wherever I want to work,

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:30.880
<v Speaker 1>like I'm working at home right now, and I found

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 1>like being here and in my dad's home it's so

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 1>challenging because we're around each other all the time. So

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:41.399
<v Speaker 1>for me, I started adding like daily hike, so every

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:43.959
<v Speaker 1>morning just having some me time going for a hike,

0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:47.399
<v Speaker 1>or like you know, adding like a zoom workout or something,

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 1>because I feel good when I submit an article or

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:53.239
<v Speaker 1>I record an episode of the podcast, and then it's like, well,

0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 1>what about all the rest of the time that I'm

0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:58.600
<v Speaker 1>not creating? Um, what else can I do? So it's

0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 1>just adding to your routine and just having a little

0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 1>bit of time apart, so you really value that time

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 1>you have together. Yeah, I've been trying to been working

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:08.800
<v Speaker 1>out every day. I'll go to a nearby park and

0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm there for like an hour, hour and a half

0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:16.040
<v Speaker 1>a day. So I do that. But then you know, yeah, once,

0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:19.440
<v Speaker 1>like once eight o'clock hits like, I'm fine, because then

0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I have the mentality of Okay, I can sit now,

0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I can just watch TV usually seven o'clock. I'm a

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 1>big Jeopardy and Wheel Fortune guys. I'm good. You're really

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 1>like you slid right into that married life. Oh, I've

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:35.080
<v Speaker 1>been living in married life for a long time, just

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:38.239
<v Speaker 1>single throughout it. I'm trying to think of what mine

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:40.880
<v Speaker 1>might be, what what Kalin and I might have. Uh,

0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:44.799
<v Speaker 1>we do obviously spend a lot of time together. We're

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:49.040
<v Speaker 1>pretty good at compartmentalizing our time, so like she'll spend

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:51.560
<v Speaker 1>time by yourself in the morning, I'll spend time by

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:53.800
<v Speaker 1>myself in the afternoon, and we bicker. I think some

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 1>of the Jared, we just kind of get like board

0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 1>or like, uh, not frustrated, but just kind of like

0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:03.239
<v Speaker 1>a little too kempt up in the apartment. But I

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:05.280
<v Speaker 1>think we've done a pretty good job of like separating

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:07.400
<v Speaker 1>ourselves when we need to be separated. The one thing

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:09.879
<v Speaker 1>that she gets angry at me for, it's just when

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I play too many video games m especially in such

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:14.759
<v Speaker 1>a small apartment. You know, it's it's like a small

0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:16.840
<v Speaker 1>two bedroom apartment here in Santa Monica, So it's like

0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 1>if I'm in the living room playing video games, then

0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 1>she like it doesn't really feel like sitting on the

0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:23.320
<v Speaker 1>couch with me while I play video games. That's like

0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the big frustration that she had. Can you get her

0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:28.360
<v Speaker 1>into the video games? You know, I've I've like tried

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:31.200
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, but it's just not really I don't

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 1>really think it's her thing, and I you know, I

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:37.240
<v Speaker 1>don't want to push too hard for that, So totally,

0:39:37.360 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe you just need like video game hour or like

0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:42.919
<v Speaker 1>this time where you have like this is Dean's video

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:45.440
<v Speaker 1>game time. You know, from seven to eight every day

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:47.600
<v Speaker 1>he's going to be doing his games and then he's

0:39:47.640 --> 0:39:51.320
<v Speaker 1>back and you've got his undivided attention, right, You're like, no,

0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:53.759
<v Speaker 1>I play You're like, I play it for twenty four hours.

0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Like that's not. Well. The hard thing is is like,

0:39:57.280 --> 0:39:59.359
<v Speaker 1>since all my other friends are quarantined as well, it's

0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:01.360
<v Speaker 1>like they're all playing the same game. So it's like

0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:03.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll play with one friend for an hour, and then

0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 1>a couple other friends will jump on. I'm like, oh crap, okay,

0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:06.320
<v Speaker 1>I gotta play with them for an hour now, and

0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:07.600
<v Speaker 1>then I get done with that, and then a couple

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 1>other friends jump on. You're just too social. Well, it's

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:12.879
<v Speaker 1>like a good way to stay connected. Yeah, And that's

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 1>how that's how I rationalize it with her. I'm like, well,

0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like basically talking on the phone with my friends,

0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:18.960
<v Speaker 1>but we're playing a game in the meantime too. But

0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 1>it's good that you found that too, I mean, it's

0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 1>it's that's such a great and like kind of minor

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:26.439
<v Speaker 1>thing to have a problem within relationship. So that's good,

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Like that's a good thing. But it's also really nice

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:30.880
<v Speaker 1>that you found a way to connect with other people

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:33.239
<v Speaker 1>while you guys are at home, And it's great that

0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 1>you went out for that date nightlist last week, Like

0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:39.919
<v Speaker 1>how did that feel it was interesting. We like called

0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 1>the restaurant and make sure everything was like necessary for

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:44.919
<v Speaker 1>us to like come visit, and then obviously we wanted

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:46.359
<v Speaker 1>to bring our dogs, so they allowed the dog because

0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:49.680
<v Speaker 1>it's all outdoor seating. Um, and it's something we're gonna

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:52.280
<v Speaker 1>try to do more of. Like she chose this spot

0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:55.680
<v Speaker 1>and made the reservation without telling me where or when. Uh,

0:40:55.719 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 1>and I did the same thing a couple of days later.

0:40:58.080 --> 0:41:01.040
<v Speaker 1>So it's it's we like to patronize the restaurants too,

0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:02.959
<v Speaker 1>because obviously they're being hit pretty hard during the COVID

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 1>uh pandemic. So um, yeah, it's definitely something that we

0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:10.319
<v Speaker 1>were trying to keep up in. Uh. We've been getting

0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:12.200
<v Speaker 1>outside a little bit more. We want to like do

0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:14.680
<v Speaker 1>more rock climbing and hiking and stuff like that. But it's,

0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's sometimes hard to find motivation. I guess,

0:41:17.600 --> 0:41:20.200
<v Speaker 1>oh for sure, I feel like and until you get

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:22.400
<v Speaker 1>into like again, I go back to the routine, Like

0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 1>until you get into the routine of doing it, then

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:28.960
<v Speaker 1>you're just like you're hooked. Like I am so excited

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:30.560
<v Speaker 1>when I wake up to go on a hike every

0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:32.640
<v Speaker 1>day because I'm like I get to listen to podcasts

0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:35.160
<v Speaker 1>in my ear and I get out and then I'm

0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:40.719
<v Speaker 1>like chasing these endorphins. Yeah, when gott to chase those endorphins,

0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:44.839
<v Speaker 1>heared you catch those beautiful butterflies. You know, well, Jent,

0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:46.560
<v Speaker 1>So tell us a little bit more about your podcast,

0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:49.879
<v Speaker 1>Lockdown Love. Um okay, So Lockdown Love is a part

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:55.319
<v Speaker 1>of the E one podcast network and it came about because, UM,

0:41:55.680 --> 0:42:00.359
<v Speaker 1>I am a dating columnist here in Toronto, and UM

0:42:00.440 --> 0:42:03.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm often doing on air segments about dating and giving

0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:08.080
<v Speaker 1>relationship advice, not just romantic advice, but um advice with

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:11.320
<v Speaker 1>friendships or with colleagues or with you know, loss or

0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 1>grief and all that stuff. And UM, me and you

0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:17.520
<v Speaker 1>one have wanted to work together and in Lockdown, one

0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:19.880
<v Speaker 1>of the producers reached out to me and asked, what's

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 1>happening with dating? Because right before the podcast came out, UM,

0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:28.759
<v Speaker 1>I started dating again. I got out of a relationship

0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:30.960
<v Speaker 1>about a year and a half ago. I wanted time

0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:34.960
<v Speaker 1>to get back to me. So I started dating again

0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:37.640
<v Speaker 1>at the beginning of the new year, and then Lockdown happened.

0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:42.600
<v Speaker 1>So we decided to do a podcast about dating during Lockdown,

0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:47.239
<v Speaker 1>connecting with people whether it's through sliding into someone d

0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:50.600
<v Speaker 1>someone's d m s, whether it's the delivery guy, you know,

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:53.640
<v Speaker 1>leaving the curb side pickup or no matter what, really

0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:57.360
<v Speaker 1>taking time to connect with other people and to mostly

0:42:57.400 --> 0:43:00.040
<v Speaker 1>connect with ourselves and see how we could grow. So

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 1>that's how Lockdown Love came about. And um, it's been

0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 1>a really interesting journey. Um we I think we've had

0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:09.960
<v Speaker 1>eight weeks so far, eight weeks of Lockdown Love. So

0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:13.120
<v Speaker 1>and Taylor towards people. Is it more singles? Is it

0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:16.480
<v Speaker 1>more people in relationships? I think that there's uh, it's

0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:21.880
<v Speaker 1>almost like eat prey love meets like curb your enthusiasm

0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:24.680
<v Speaker 1>meet sex in this city, there's like a little bit

0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:29.040
<v Speaker 1>of something for everyone. Because I'm on this journey on

0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:31.960
<v Speaker 1>my own. I've now you know, moved on from a

0:43:32.040 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 1>relationship that I ended. But just because you've fallen out

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:37.320
<v Speaker 1>of love with someone doesn't mean you should rush and

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:41.040
<v Speaker 1>date someone else. So it's just been a really interesting journey.

0:43:41.080 --> 0:43:43.239
<v Speaker 1>And I think that a lot of people could relate

0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:45.800
<v Speaker 1>for so many ways. I bring on some psychoanalysts and

0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 1>some psychotherapists, So I think that it allows listeners to

0:43:50.160 --> 0:43:52.600
<v Speaker 1>grow with me. Is I try to figure out my

0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:56.840
<v Speaker 1>own stuff or whatever is holding me back, like sending

0:43:56.880 --> 0:43:59.759
<v Speaker 1>shots to younger men the first time of the house.

0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:02.080
<v Speaker 1>And I'll tell you what we love. We love the

0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:05.319
<v Speaker 1>authenticity of it all too. Yeah, thank you so much.

0:44:05.440 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's hard, you guys know this. It's really

0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:10.439
<v Speaker 1>hard to put yourself out there, especially when it comes

0:44:10.520 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 1>to dating, and a lot of people have opinions of

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 1>what you should do or who you should date. But

0:44:17.040 --> 0:44:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like that's the fun part of the journey,

0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 1>and that's what it is to me. It's about the journey.

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:24.839
<v Speaker 1>It's not about the end result whether I ultimately meet

0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:29.239
<v Speaker 1>some or not. I'm content with myself. It's I just

0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:31.600
<v Speaker 1>want someone to share some really great things with. Like

0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:35.040
<v Speaker 1>yesterday I had a little career milestone and I felt

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 1>really like down and really depressed, and my dad thought

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:43.759
<v Speaker 1>he didn't really understand, Like how could you be so

0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:46.440
<v Speaker 1>sad when you've accomplished what you've wanted to accomplish? And

0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:49.279
<v Speaker 1>I just felt like I want to share it with

0:44:49.480 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 1>someone like That's it's so nice to have special moments.

0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I I know you were talking about Kalin's birthday a

0:44:55.560 --> 0:44:58.680
<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks ago. It's nice to like love someone

0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:01.239
<v Speaker 1>and share that with them, in share what's special to

0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:04.880
<v Speaker 1>what's special for them with them. And I feel like

0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I just missed that a bit, you know. Um, And

0:45:09.040 --> 0:45:11.880
<v Speaker 1>I think that I'm a very like affectionate person and

0:45:11.920 --> 0:45:16.359
<v Speaker 1>affectionate partners, so I really value that connection with someone.

0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:18.879
<v Speaker 1>So whether I ultimately find it or not, it would

0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:22.520
<v Speaker 1>be nice too. But I think that that's what's missing

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:26.120
<v Speaker 1>for me right now, and it's a little sad. Well,

0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:28.200
<v Speaker 1>we gotta fall along with your journey at the end

0:45:28.200 --> 0:45:29.520
<v Speaker 1>of the way two, which is great. You might not

0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:31.920
<v Speaker 1>have the one special person, but you have all of

0:45:32.040 --> 0:45:33.600
<v Speaker 1>us as your fans that are listening to you and

0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:36.040
<v Speaker 1>being yeah, well, thank you. And I just need to

0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:38.359
<v Speaker 1>like keep it in my pants next time I leave

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:41.480
<v Speaker 1>it and stop, you know, throwing money and shots all

0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:43.719
<v Speaker 1>over the place. Well, like you said, it's it's part

0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:45.839
<v Speaker 1>of the journey. So it's all it's all good, it's

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<v Speaker 1>all grav What what am I dm ng to? J

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<v Speaker 1>p J? I would say, just send him the hang

0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:54.799
<v Speaker 1>loose shaka. Yeah, just that's it. And don't even mention

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:57.160
<v Speaker 1>that I've been on this show. We had this conversation.

0:45:57.880 --> 0:46:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely told me to send this there you go. I

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:03.239
<v Speaker 1>think that's what you should do, and I'll tell you what.

0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:04.879
<v Speaker 1>We'll check in with you next week too to see

0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:08.600
<v Speaker 1>if there's any a little update. The thing is he

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:11.359
<v Speaker 1>lives in Los Angeles, so he's a little far proximity wise. Yeah,

0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:13.480
<v Speaker 1>you're on a whole different times and it's like a

0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:18.279
<v Speaker 1>whole different life over there. Yeah, that's exactly right. You know,

0:46:19.000 --> 0:46:23.239
<v Speaker 1>we're basically stuck anyways with it being locked down, so

0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:28.480
<v Speaker 1>areas and locations do not matter at the moment. I'll

0:46:28.480 --> 0:46:30.640
<v Speaker 1>tell you what this is. This is. This is a

0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:32.439
<v Speaker 1>great way to do this. So I say you send

0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:35.000
<v Speaker 1>the message to JPJ, say Dean told me to send this.

0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:37.279
<v Speaker 1>And then for the listeners of this podcast that are

0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:39.359
<v Speaker 1>interested in following up, be sure to check out your

0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:43.000
<v Speaker 1>podcast Lockdown Love on One Networks. Yeah, and you can

0:46:43.160 --> 0:46:45.520
<v Speaker 1>get it on iTunes or wherever you get your podcast,

0:46:45.600 --> 0:46:48.719
<v Speaker 1>And you could follow me on Instagram at jen j

0:46:48.920 --> 0:46:53.719
<v Speaker 1>E N Underscore, kirsch k I R S c H. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's stay tuned for on both of those platforms

0:46:56.719 --> 0:46:59.800
<v Speaker 1>for part two of the JPJ saga coming up. Say

0:47:00.120 --> 0:47:02.160
<v Speaker 1>that it has a name already. This is it's already

0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:07.040
<v Speaker 1>a saga. It's already saga. It's the Summer of Love. Jen.

0:47:07.120 --> 0:47:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate you.

0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, guys, I really appreciate it. Best

0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:14.359
<v Speaker 1>of luck with everything, Okay, take care all right? Bye,

0:47:14.520 --> 0:47:20.040
<v Speaker 1>hy boy, oh boy? All right, that I'll do it

0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:21.839
<v Speaker 1>for Jen. Like we said, be sure to check out

0:47:21.880 --> 0:47:24.560
<v Speaker 1>her podcast, Lockdown Love on E one Networks or wherever

0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:27.680
<v Speaker 1>you get your podcasts. Stay tuned. After this quick break,

0:47:27.719 --> 0:47:30.480
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna jump to some emails. Talk to Jared a

0:47:30.520 --> 0:47:43.080
<v Speaker 1>little bit, seeing a bit. All right, we're back. We're

0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:45.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna read some emails, as we usually do during this

0:47:45.800 --> 0:47:47.839
<v Speaker 1>time of the podcast. Dean, would you like to read

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<v Speaker 1>our first email? All right, So we have an email

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<v Speaker 1>from Ariel. She says, do you think it's a good

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<v Speaker 1>idea to help set up one of my boyfriend's best

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<v Speaker 1>friends with my best friend. My boyfriend's best friend has

0:47:57.560 --> 0:47:59.000
<v Speaker 1>been asking me to set him up with my best

0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:00.960
<v Speaker 1>friend for a couple of months now. I have some

0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:03.520
<v Speaker 1>hesitation because it could make things go It could make

0:48:03.560 --> 0:48:05.680
<v Speaker 1>things very awkward if they don't work out, or if

0:48:05.719 --> 0:48:07.919
<v Speaker 1>me and my boyfriend break up in the future. Would

0:48:07.920 --> 0:48:10.279
<v Speaker 1>you set up one of your friends with your girlfriends

0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:15.440
<v Speaker 1>or wives friends. Uh yeah, absolutely try it out. Try

0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:18.120
<v Speaker 1>to set them up if they like. I mean, I

0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:20.920
<v Speaker 1>know it's creates an awkward situation if they break up,

0:48:21.040 --> 0:48:24.239
<v Speaker 1>but I mean you can't think like that. You've got

0:48:24.320 --> 0:48:26.640
<v Speaker 1>to think of glass half full. What if their soulmates

0:48:27.320 --> 0:48:30.759
<v Speaker 1>and you're you're hindering their opportunity to get married and

0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:33.480
<v Speaker 1>spend the rest of our lives together because you're concerned

0:48:33.520 --> 0:48:36.960
<v Speaker 1>about an awkward situation down the road. Don't think about that. Yeah,

0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:39.719
<v Speaker 1>I disagree. I disagree. I don't think you should set

0:48:39.760 --> 0:48:43.600
<v Speaker 1>them up, because well, maybe you should, but I think

0:48:43.680 --> 0:48:45.000
<v Speaker 1>that there are a lot of I have a lot

0:48:45.080 --> 0:48:47.800
<v Speaker 1>of friends who are single who often asked me to

0:48:47.880 --> 0:48:51.040
<v Speaker 1>introduce them to people that I know that they're interested

0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:54.720
<v Speaker 1>in pursuing or dating. And I have no problem setting

0:48:54.760 --> 0:48:57.680
<v Speaker 1>people up. But I know my friends well enough to

0:48:57.800 --> 0:49:02.479
<v Speaker 1>know that I shouldn't set them up with other friends. Yeah.

0:49:02.560 --> 0:49:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if your friends are douchebags, then yeah, don't

0:49:05.239 --> 0:49:08.719
<v Speaker 1>set out the boyfriend's best friend is a douchebag. Or

0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:11.839
<v Speaker 1>if your friend is a jerk, then of course, don't

0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:15.080
<v Speaker 1>don't put that other person through hell by you know,

0:49:15.280 --> 0:49:17.879
<v Speaker 1>matching the two up together. But if they're a good

0:49:17.960 --> 0:49:20.040
<v Speaker 1>person and they're you're a good friend and you want

0:49:20.120 --> 0:49:23.200
<v Speaker 1>them to be happy, and you your your boyfriend's best

0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:26.080
<v Speaker 1>friend is a good person who is also looking for

0:49:26.160 --> 0:49:31.239
<v Speaker 1>a relationship, you know, I'm torn. I just think this

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<v Speaker 1>bad boy up. My My sister set up her best

0:49:35.400 --> 0:49:39.880
<v Speaker 1>friend with my brother, and it went great in the

0:49:39.920 --> 0:49:41.960
<v Speaker 1>beginning because you're like double dates, is it so fun?

0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:45.200
<v Speaker 1>But then when the breakup happens, somebody has to sacrifice

0:49:45.239 --> 0:49:46.640
<v Speaker 1>from being a part of the friend group. Can you

0:49:46.680 --> 0:49:49.080
<v Speaker 1>say that again? Who is who got set up with who?

0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:52.160
<v Speaker 1>My sister set up her best friend with my brother?

0:49:55.040 --> 0:50:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Your sister what set up her best friend? And with mine?

0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Her sister and brother? And I was like, wait a minute,

0:50:05.960 --> 0:50:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not hearing this correctly. I mean, it's a weird

0:50:09.000 --> 0:50:12.640
<v Speaker 1>to date your brother. Shoot no um, and and it

0:50:12.840 --> 0:50:15.640
<v Speaker 1>was like fun for you know, the holidays and whatever.

0:50:15.840 --> 0:50:19.000
<v Speaker 1>But then as soon as somebody breaks up, you just

0:50:19.120 --> 0:50:21.160
<v Speaker 1>have to be prepared that, like one person won't be

0:50:21.239 --> 0:50:25.919
<v Speaker 1>invited for a while until maybe like things heal over.

0:50:26.080 --> 0:50:29.279
<v Speaker 1>If ever, because it got it was it was still

0:50:29.360 --> 0:50:31.520
<v Speaker 1>weird even after a long period of time. How long

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<v Speaker 1>did they date for m I want to say, like

0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:38.719
<v Speaker 1>six six or seven months. And the hard part is

0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:42.600
<v Speaker 1>and they might experience this, like I hate to say,

0:50:42.800 --> 0:50:46.960
<v Speaker 1>like the talking if things or when things go south,

0:50:47.640 --> 0:50:50.719
<v Speaker 1>like she'll confide in their friends where it's like, well,

0:50:50.760 --> 0:50:53.520
<v Speaker 1>my loyalties with him and then like your loyalties with her.

0:50:53.800 --> 0:50:55.640
<v Speaker 1>And that's what my sister faced, because it's like, well,

0:50:55.680 --> 0:50:57.680
<v Speaker 1>it's my brother, So if he's like doing that to you,

0:50:57.719 --> 0:51:00.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. But also like my brother's talking to me

0:51:00.120 --> 0:51:03.279
<v Speaker 1>about you and like I love you, but then like

0:51:03.560 --> 0:51:05.719
<v Speaker 1>you are being like kind of a little whatever, And

0:51:05.880 --> 0:51:08.680
<v Speaker 1>so it just got complicated. Everyone has to eventually pick

0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:10.520
<v Speaker 1>a side. And I think that's why this I'm a

0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:12.680
<v Speaker 1>little hesitant to say, go for it. That is a

0:51:12.719 --> 0:51:16.480
<v Speaker 1>good I I had a friend in a similar situation

0:51:16.600 --> 0:51:19.040
<v Speaker 1>where I was closer with one person than the other

0:51:19.320 --> 0:51:22.400
<v Speaker 1>and like you would, you know, as a friend, you

0:51:22.520 --> 0:51:24.640
<v Speaker 1>just like need someone to vent to, and so this

0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:27.640
<v Speaker 1>person would vent to me, and it's like, no, I

0:51:27.880 --> 0:51:29.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, I get it. Sometimes you just need to

0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:31.400
<v Speaker 1>be like, you know, you need to get it off

0:51:31.440 --> 0:51:33.640
<v Speaker 1>your chest. But at the same time, I know the

0:51:33.719 --> 0:51:35.920
<v Speaker 1>other person and I'm closer with you, but I'm kind

0:51:35.960 --> 0:51:38.120
<v Speaker 1>of friends with them, so like I'm just not going

0:51:38.200 --> 0:51:41.520
<v Speaker 1>to respond. I'm just gonna let you just vent. So

0:51:41.640 --> 0:51:43.759
<v Speaker 1>it is difficult position to be in because you're like, well,

0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I still like them, but if they're doing that, that's stuck.

0:51:46.880 --> 0:51:50.600
<v Speaker 1>But they also probably think that you're doing some stuff too,

0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:54.520
<v Speaker 1>so I don't know, still set them. It makes life.

0:51:54.680 --> 0:51:57.280
<v Speaker 1>Only person the only person I could think of setting

0:51:57.400 --> 0:51:59.719
<v Speaker 1>up and be like comfortable with that dynamic would be

0:51:59.760 --> 0:52:03.520
<v Speaker 1>like my brother, my brother who's single. Whereas like let's

0:52:03.560 --> 0:52:06.000
<v Speaker 1>say I'm setting him up with a friend and then

0:52:06.080 --> 0:52:07.920
<v Speaker 1>the friend is like venting to me in this in

0:52:08.239 --> 0:52:11.240
<v Speaker 1>Jared's case, like about how my brother is in some regard,

0:52:11.680 --> 0:52:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I could be like, yeah, that's my brother. You should

0:52:15.040 --> 0:52:16.400
<v Speaker 1>have known that you were getting into that when you

0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:18.239
<v Speaker 1>started dating him, and like I told you about that

0:52:18.320 --> 0:52:20.000
<v Speaker 1>before you started. So like, as long as you like

0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:22.320
<v Speaker 1>know the person through and through, like you wouldn't know

0:52:22.360 --> 0:52:24.880
<v Speaker 1>a brother or maybe a best friend, is that what

0:52:24.960 --> 0:52:27.440
<v Speaker 1>another person vents to you about them or something that

0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:29.040
<v Speaker 1>they're doing. You could just be like, well, yeah, that's

0:52:29.080 --> 0:52:31.160
<v Speaker 1>just that's just them, as you know, outside of like

0:52:31.840 --> 0:52:34.840
<v Speaker 1>if they're not being like abusive or like aggressive or anything.

0:52:37.200 --> 0:52:38.919
<v Speaker 1>If he's like not being if he's like being messy

0:52:39.200 --> 0:52:40.800
<v Speaker 1>around the house, you'd be like, well, yeah, Ross is

0:52:40.840 --> 0:52:42.960
<v Speaker 1>super messy, so obviously that's what it's gonna be. Like, Yeah,

0:52:42.960 --> 0:52:44.600
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't do laundry, he doesn't put the clothes in

0:52:44.640 --> 0:52:47.520
<v Speaker 1>the hamper. You knew this, so I think I agree.

0:52:47.560 --> 0:52:49.279
<v Speaker 1>I think it's like a yes and no thing where

0:52:49.440 --> 0:52:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Yah set them up, but be ready to face some

0:52:52.480 --> 0:52:55.239
<v Speaker 1>awkward conversations later down the line if and when it

0:52:55.320 --> 0:52:57.879
<v Speaker 1>goes south. And let's be honest, I would say more

0:52:57.920 --> 0:53:01.239
<v Speaker 1>relationships don't work out than do work out. But as

0:53:01.360 --> 0:53:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Jared pointed out earlier, it could be their soul mates

0:53:04.880 --> 0:53:07.080
<v Speaker 1>and they just need you to spark that connection for them.

0:53:07.640 --> 0:53:10.919
<v Speaker 1>Tricky situation. The next email comes from Joe. It says

0:53:11.000 --> 0:53:12.800
<v Speaker 1>I used to date this girl who I've known my

0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:15.120
<v Speaker 1>whole life. We have always been long distance, and when

0:53:15.160 --> 0:53:17.959
<v Speaker 1>work and postgraduate school took over, I took the easy

0:53:18.040 --> 0:53:21.280
<v Speaker 1>way out and ended the relationship. I've always regretted this decision,

0:53:21.360 --> 0:53:23.920
<v Speaker 1>thinking she may have been the one. Fast forward a

0:53:23.960 --> 0:53:26.640
<v Speaker 1>few years. She now has a family. One day, she

0:53:26.840 --> 0:53:30.000
<v Speaker 1>randomly reached out and told me she was getting a divorce.

0:53:30.160 --> 0:53:32.840
<v Speaker 1>For eight months now. We've been talking every day and

0:53:33.000 --> 0:53:35.800
<v Speaker 1>it is obvious the feelings are still there on both sides.

0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:38.680
<v Speaker 1>We are still states apart, so we have been traveling

0:53:38.760 --> 0:53:41.800
<v Speaker 1>to see each other at least once a month. However,

0:53:42.040 --> 0:53:44.400
<v Speaker 1>with the coronavirus stopping us from seeing each other, I

0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:46.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know how willing I am to pick up my

0:53:46.280 --> 0:53:48.520
<v Speaker 1>life right now and move across the country. I really

0:53:48.600 --> 0:53:50.320
<v Speaker 1>like her and we definitely have a great connection, but

0:53:50.480 --> 0:53:53.040
<v Speaker 1>right now all we have our video chats, and it

0:53:53.080 --> 0:53:56.239
<v Speaker 1>has been difficult determining if this is the real deal.

0:53:56.600 --> 0:53:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Some other worries I have is that she is moving

0:53:59.040 --> 0:54:03.680
<v Speaker 1>on from one relationship to the next two quickly. I

0:54:03.719 --> 0:54:05.440
<v Speaker 1>would agree with Joe. Yeah, I think she's I mean,

0:54:05.520 --> 0:54:07.239
<v Speaker 1>she just got a divorce. I don't know how long

0:54:07.320 --> 0:54:09.120
<v Speaker 1>she's been married for, but she has a family, so

0:54:09.200 --> 0:54:11.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming that she has kids as well. And while

0:54:12.000 --> 0:54:14.680
<v Speaker 1>they've been talking for eight months now, you guys live

0:54:14.760 --> 0:54:18.880
<v Speaker 1>what appears to be cross country. I don't advise you

0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:23.240
<v Speaker 1>moving cross country for this girl, especially if you haven't

0:54:23.480 --> 0:54:30.040
<v Speaker 1>seen her, and since you know coronavirus started. Oh that's fast. Yeah,

0:54:30.080 --> 0:54:32.680
<v Speaker 1>I I don't think you should move Joe. I kind

0:54:32.719 --> 0:54:34.279
<v Speaker 1>of wish we could have Nick on here. I feel

0:54:34.280 --> 0:54:37.400
<v Speaker 1>like he would have very choice words about this situation. Well,

0:54:37.400 --> 0:54:41.520
<v Speaker 1>why don't you channel your inner Nick? What would he say? Wai? Yeah,

0:54:41.640 --> 0:54:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I mean, obviously there's the questions with

0:54:43.560 --> 0:54:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Nick thing. I feel like he's very He's very outspoken

0:54:45.560 --> 0:54:47.440
<v Speaker 1>and opinionated about stuff like this, and I think he

0:54:47.480 --> 0:54:49.960
<v Speaker 1>would be good in this circumstance. But I do agree

0:54:50.040 --> 0:54:52.040
<v Speaker 1>for the most part with what Jared said. It seems

0:54:52.040 --> 0:54:56.200
<v Speaker 1>like it's happening for rather quickly. Um, I'm trying to

0:54:56.280 --> 0:54:59.919
<v Speaker 1>put myself in those shoes of Joe and be like, Okay,

0:55:00.000 --> 0:55:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I used to like this girl. We liked each other,

0:55:02.440 --> 0:55:04.480
<v Speaker 1>but then we stopped talking to each other. Then she

0:55:04.560 --> 0:55:07.600
<v Speaker 1>got married. Sounds like pretty quickly, that's ending now, and

0:55:07.640 --> 0:55:10.880
<v Speaker 1>now she's jumping into this pretty quickly. It sounds like

0:55:11.000 --> 0:55:13.719
<v Speaker 1>she's just like one of those people that likes the

0:55:13.960 --> 0:55:16.759
<v Speaker 1>honeymoon phase of things like that's obviously the easiest part

0:55:16.800 --> 0:55:19.400
<v Speaker 1>of dating someone as the first you know, six to

0:55:19.520 --> 0:55:22.600
<v Speaker 1>eighteen months, and she kind of like seems to be

0:55:22.680 --> 0:55:26.279
<v Speaker 1>jumping from one to the next. Ah that that could

0:55:26.320 --> 0:55:28.719
<v Speaker 1>stop eventually, but I don't know if the first relationship

0:55:28.800 --> 0:55:31.240
<v Speaker 1>after divorce is when that's going to stop. It sounds

0:55:31.320 --> 0:55:34.840
<v Speaker 1>like after the divorce, maybe she should like date a

0:55:34.920 --> 0:55:37.360
<v Speaker 1>couple more people and then you can come back around

0:55:37.600 --> 0:55:40.480
<v Speaker 1>and then give it a shot if you're still interested. Uh,

0:55:41.160 --> 0:55:43.720
<v Speaker 1>but it does. I'm not gonna say Joe's a rebound,

0:55:43.960 --> 0:55:46.000
<v Speaker 1>but it sounds like she's looking for some sort of

0:55:46.120 --> 0:55:48.920
<v Speaker 1>comfort and uh in a significant other because she's not

0:55:48.960 --> 0:55:51.560
<v Speaker 1>getting it from her from her now ex husband. Uh.

0:55:51.680 --> 0:55:53.279
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if you necessarily want to be

0:55:53.280 --> 0:55:55.560
<v Speaker 1>the guy that's just there because she's lonely, you know,

0:55:55.920 --> 0:55:59.680
<v Speaker 1>totally I agree, and especially she's known him for her

0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:03.319
<v Speaker 1>your life. They used today, he broke up with her

0:56:04.160 --> 0:56:07.120
<v Speaker 1>years ago after graduate school. Like I could totally see

0:56:07.360 --> 0:56:11.640
<v Speaker 1>this being a very comfortable rebound for someone who had

0:56:11.680 --> 0:56:14.200
<v Speaker 1>just been married. How the family is now getting a divorce,

0:56:14.719 --> 0:56:18.760
<v Speaker 1>where Joe, you might be looking at it more of fate,

0:56:19.400 --> 0:56:20.880
<v Speaker 1>like this might be the girl I was supposed to

0:56:20.920 --> 0:56:23.160
<v Speaker 1>spend the rest of my life with and now she's

0:56:23.200 --> 0:56:26.400
<v Speaker 1>coming back to me after a divorce, and where I

0:56:26.520 --> 0:56:29.719
<v Speaker 1>feel like she might be looking at you more as

0:56:29.840 --> 0:56:32.399
<v Speaker 1>a comfortable rebound. So I don't know if you should

0:56:32.440 --> 0:56:35.319
<v Speaker 1>move across country. Also, I don't. I mean, maybe she's

0:56:35.320 --> 0:56:37.480
<v Speaker 1>on the same wavelength with you where she's looking at this,

0:56:37.600 --> 0:56:39.440
<v Speaker 1>and that she's thinking that this could be some sort

0:56:39.480 --> 0:56:41.080
<v Speaker 1>of fate that you guys come back to each other.

0:56:41.400 --> 0:56:45.239
<v Speaker 1>But I would establish that before any type of move.

0:56:45.400 --> 0:56:47.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if she's asking you to move or not,

0:56:48.120 --> 0:56:49.960
<v Speaker 1>because he says, I don't know how willing I am

0:56:50.040 --> 0:56:51.600
<v Speaker 1>to pick up my life right now and move across

0:56:51.640 --> 0:56:55.520
<v Speaker 1>the country. But if she's if she's asking you to move,

0:56:56.320 --> 0:57:01.000
<v Speaker 1>that seems so quick. But here's thing you guys are missing.

0:57:01.280 --> 0:57:03.040
<v Speaker 1>He's the one that took the easy way out and

0:57:03.239 --> 0:57:06.400
<v Speaker 1>ended the relationship. Yeah, but so it's not really like

0:57:06.440 --> 0:57:09.520
<v Speaker 1>a rebound. It's like he is finally saying I've regretted

0:57:09.560 --> 0:57:11.839
<v Speaker 1>this decision so much that now I'm willing to make

0:57:11.920 --> 0:57:14.080
<v Speaker 1>that leap and this might just be the perfect time.

0:57:14.239 --> 0:57:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Like this could actually be fake because he opted out.

0:57:17.560 --> 0:57:19.680
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't her being like, hey, I like you. Oops,

0:57:19.720 --> 0:57:23.000
<v Speaker 1>no I don't buy, and then oh, are you back again?

0:57:23.360 --> 0:57:27.240
<v Speaker 1>It's like she clearly had feelings for him. He walked

0:57:27.240 --> 0:57:29.960
<v Speaker 1>away from that relationship. Now this opportunities available again, and

0:57:30.040 --> 0:57:31.560
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't want to walk away from it, like he

0:57:31.600 --> 0:57:34.200
<v Speaker 1>did the one. She was also very willing to move

0:57:34.280 --> 0:57:37.720
<v Speaker 1>on from this relationship with him because she ended up

0:57:37.760 --> 0:57:41.360
<v Speaker 1>getting married and starting a family with someone else. So yeah,

0:57:41.400 --> 0:57:43.959
<v Speaker 1>of course she's moving on. If a guy is saying, hey, listen,

0:57:44.000 --> 0:57:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take the way out, this doesn't working, and

0:57:45.880 --> 0:57:48.320
<v Speaker 1>you're like, wow, you were my childhood love. Okay, great,

0:57:48.320 --> 0:57:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go find somebody else. Totally. But I would

0:57:51.120 --> 0:57:54.880
<v Speaker 1>also be wary that maybe this is because they've known

0:57:54.920 --> 0:57:56.640
<v Speaker 1>each other for so long and he ended it and

0:57:56.920 --> 0:57:59.760
<v Speaker 1>they used to hook up, like especially after getting a divorce,

0:57:59.840 --> 0:58:02.600
<v Speaker 1>and how impactful that is on your life. I would

0:58:03.280 --> 0:58:05.920
<v Speaker 1>make sure that Joe, you and this woman are on

0:58:05.960 --> 0:58:09.800
<v Speaker 1>the exact same page of hey, this is you know,

0:58:10.240 --> 0:58:15.280
<v Speaker 1>are you ready for another long term relationship? Because I'm

0:58:15.280 --> 0:58:19.200
<v Speaker 1>sure Joe is looking at this potentially as a marriage

0:58:19.880 --> 0:58:21.919
<v Speaker 1>and hopefully she is as well. And I'm just they're

0:58:21.960 --> 0:58:24.080
<v Speaker 1>meant for each other. I like your way of thinking.

0:58:24.120 --> 0:58:26.600
<v Speaker 1>I hope so too. But and I think that he

0:58:26.680 --> 0:58:29.920
<v Speaker 1>should just rent an airbnb right next to her for

0:58:30.000 --> 0:58:32.680
<v Speaker 1>the next three months. Everyone's working from home. Go rent

0:58:32.680 --> 0:58:34.760
<v Speaker 1>an airbnb three months. See how you like it, See

0:58:34.800 --> 0:58:36.480
<v Speaker 1>what it's like being kind of you know that the

0:58:36.520 --> 0:58:39.640
<v Speaker 1>stepdad role and go for it. Yeah, as long as

0:58:41.600 --> 0:58:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I say go for it. They've known each other for

0:58:43.960 --> 0:58:46.040
<v Speaker 1>too long. It's almost like if you're if you're like

0:58:46.120 --> 0:58:48.320
<v Speaker 1>this high school sweetheart, where you're like, we never diated

0:58:49.160 --> 0:58:51.160
<v Speaker 1>in high school. We were good friends, or you know,

0:58:51.240 --> 0:58:52.840
<v Speaker 1>we did it for you know, a few years when

0:58:52.840 --> 0:58:54.440
<v Speaker 1>we're in high school, and then we found each other

0:58:54.520 --> 0:58:56.720
<v Speaker 1>ten years later. It's like that there's just that personal

0:58:56.800 --> 0:58:58.920
<v Speaker 1>connection where you don't really need to start over when

0:58:58.920 --> 0:59:02.000
<v Speaker 1>it's like your childhood love of or your childhood friend

0:59:02.120 --> 0:59:03.680
<v Speaker 1>or your family friend, like you start on a way

0:59:03.760 --> 0:59:06.200
<v Speaker 1>different wavelength. So I'm like, yeah, I mean ask her

0:59:06.240 --> 0:59:08.120
<v Speaker 1>to get therapy so you can make sure she's healing

0:59:08.160 --> 0:59:11.080
<v Speaker 1>it on the right track and and go for it. Yeah,

0:59:11.160 --> 0:59:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I generally I agree with you as well. I would

0:59:13.240 --> 0:59:17.800
<v Speaker 1>just be caution, I proceed with caution, Joe. That's what

0:59:17.840 --> 0:59:20.560
<v Speaker 1>I would say, go for it, But you know, I

0:59:20.920 --> 0:59:23.400
<v Speaker 1>communication is the most important part of a relationship. And

0:59:23.600 --> 0:59:25.960
<v Speaker 1>and Joe, just make sure you're communicating with her to

0:59:26.120 --> 0:59:28.080
<v Speaker 1>make sure that you guys are on the same page,

0:59:28.880 --> 0:59:31.040
<v Speaker 1>because it seems like I said that you are looking

0:59:31.120 --> 0:59:35.360
<v Speaker 1>at this at a very long and powerful relationship and

0:59:35.480 --> 0:59:37.120
<v Speaker 1>I just want to make sure that she is as well,

0:59:37.240 --> 0:59:43.080
<v Speaker 1>especially coming uh shortly after a divorce. Yeah, I agree.

0:59:43.240 --> 0:59:45.040
<v Speaker 1>There's also this one quote that made that you guys

0:59:45.080 --> 0:59:47.600
<v Speaker 1>made me think of by Alan wattson I've I've referenced

0:59:47.600 --> 0:59:49.400
<v Speaker 1>many times on this podcast before because I love Alan

0:59:49.400 --> 0:59:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Watts and I'm gonna putcher it. I'm gonna fact check it,

0:59:51.840 --> 0:59:54.400
<v Speaker 1>and then I'm gonna come back and report confirm it

0:59:54.560 --> 0:59:57.200
<v Speaker 1>next week's podcast. He said something along the lines of,

0:59:58.000 --> 1:00:00.760
<v Speaker 1>you can't genuinely fall in love with some one that

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<v Speaker 1>you intend to fall in love with. So it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you can't like you can't intentionally try to fall in

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<v Speaker 1>love and then actually authentically fall in love with someone.

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<v Speaker 1>So if Joe is like trying to force it like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna make this person fall in love

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<v Speaker 1>with me, or like this is gonna be loved, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not actually authentic love. It's just him willing it into existence,

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<v Speaker 1>which isn't genuine. So hopefully, like you guys said, it

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<v Speaker 1>could be fate. Uh, we've all just given him like

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<v Speaker 1>three different perspectives with no leg I enter help I

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<v Speaker 1>second dating. That is what we have. This time. My

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<v Speaker 1>advice is to not be over eager. I'm I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite side of the spectrum from you guys. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that he should go, uh you know, all

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<v Speaker 1>in on it like you're recommending um. But I honestly

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<v Speaker 1>like that we give different perspective opinions because the one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that people should remember when they email us or

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<v Speaker 1>listening to us on the podcast is that we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have all the answers. All we can do is give

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<v Speaker 1>our opinions, uh from you know, that's it. Just give

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<v Speaker 1>our opinions about the situation, and then hopefully it gives

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<v Speaker 1>you a different perspective so it can make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>you are are making the best decision for yourself and

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<v Speaker 1>the other person involved. I think the hardest thing for

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<v Speaker 1>Joe in this case is he probably feels this uh

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<v Speaker 1>like eagerness and wanting and yearning to make it happen,

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<v Speaker 1>and he feels like he needs to kind of hurry

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<v Speaker 1>up and expedite things and kind of get streamlined them

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<v Speaker 1>and make them happen. But in reality, I think the

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<v Speaker 1>best thing that he could do for himself is like

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<v Speaker 1>slow down, gain some more perspective, like take a step back,

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<v Speaker 1>and look at everything as a whole and then maybe

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<v Speaker 1>make a decision from there. But it's hard not to

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<v Speaker 1>let just like follow your heart, because sometimes your heart

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<v Speaker 1>is like, as cheesy as it sounds, is like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, gonna make you do whatever it wants you

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<v Speaker 1>to do, and it's just sometimes you need to take

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<v Speaker 1>a step back and have some more perspective on it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, that's my take. Anyways, he has he

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<v Speaker 1>has to follow up with us, That's all I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Does m U Joe hopefully listen to this? Give us

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<v Speaker 1>an update, give us a like a weekly update, like

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<v Speaker 1>tell us how the video calls are go, and tell

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<v Speaker 1>us if you I see each other during quarantine, because

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<v Speaker 1>we're curious. We want to know whose whose line of

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<v Speaker 1>advice you follow the most to. Actually, Um, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go. We're gonna get one more email before

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<v Speaker 1>we get out of here today. Uh, we're gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>to Sarah. There's an anonymous one, but it's too long

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<v Speaker 1>and I want Mark to read that one, So we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go over to Sarah. Sarah says, is it normal

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<v Speaker 1>in a relationship to find other people attractive? I've been

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<v Speaker 1>seeing my boyfriend for over a year and I love him,

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<v Speaker 1>but sometimes I find myself attracted to other people. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to do anything with these guys. I just

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<v Speaker 1>find them cute. Is this normal? And should I tell

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<v Speaker 1>my boyfriend about this? Such a good question. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a good question. That's a great question. Um, I'll tackle

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<v Speaker 1>it first while you guys think about your answers. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's perfectly normal and very understandable and acceptable

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<v Speaker 1>to think other people are attractive. Just because you're in

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship. Doesn't mean everyone else in the world gets

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<v Speaker 1>uglier and you're no longer attracted to them. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>just happen. Um. We still have like our understanding what

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<v Speaker 1>we find beautiful, and you're still gonna find that in

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<v Speaker 1>other people. It's just don't do anything beyond that. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you think someone's hot, just be like that person

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<v Speaker 1>is hot, and then don't like pursue them, don't try

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<v Speaker 1>to date them, don't do anything like that unless you

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<v Speaker 1>end your relationship, you know what I mean. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>my take on it. I don't know if you should

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily tell your boyfriend that you think all these other

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<v Speaker 1>guys are hot. That's kind of the tricky part um.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you guys think? It's perfectly normal. You should

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<v Speaker 1>not feel guilty about it. Like Dean said, just because

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a relationship with someone doesn't make the entire

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<v Speaker 1>world ugly or somehow. Now Here's the thing. Commitment is

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<v Speaker 1>a choice, and so like you're always gonna have temptations

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<v Speaker 1>in life, and so the whole point about committing yourself

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<v Speaker 1>to one other person in being a relationship is too

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<v Speaker 1>every day make that choice of hey, I'm putting like

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<v Speaker 1>for you, Sarah, I'm putting my boyfriend first in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's just something you have to continue to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course you're going to find other people attractive,

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<v Speaker 1>like and I, you know, Ashley and I talked about it,

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<v Speaker 1>like she'll you know, it's it's more like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote celebrities or movie stars, you know that, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell that she finds cute or whatever, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's funny or like I remember one time we

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<v Speaker 1>were at a were Rango Tangle I think it was,

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<v Speaker 1>and Taylor Swift was playing and she came on stage

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<v Speaker 1>and she just she looked incredible. And Ashley looked at

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<v Speaker 1>me and she's like, you can admit that you are

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<v Speaker 1>attracted Taylor Swift, It's fine. I was like, no, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you talking about? I think no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not attracted to her, even though she looks stunning,

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<v Speaker 1>and so like, that's just the way relationships are you

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<v Speaker 1>you just have to I wouldn't tell your boyfriend. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no point in telling your boyfriend like, hey, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that guy's hot over there, and I think this guy

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<v Speaker 1>is really cute over there. But just remember you're putting

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<v Speaker 1>your boyfriend first every day, and try not to feel

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<v Speaker 1>guilty over finding other people attractive. Just remember that commitment

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<v Speaker 1>is a choice and you have to place your boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>first in your life, um in order to have a

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<v Speaker 1>successful relationship. So are you guys saying that because like

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<v Speaker 1>I have been in a situation or we're like we'll like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, that girls so pretty, don't you think?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you guys always lie saying that the other person

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<v Speaker 1>isn't attractive or do you give the honest answer of

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<v Speaker 1>saying yeah, I think so too. I would say yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I said yeah, she's hot. I definitely don't say yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I play it off like Actuley knows like if uh,

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<v Speaker 1>because she'll actually say it's me like you tor where

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<v Speaker 1>she's actually be like wow, that that woman is stunning.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'll be like, oh, she's she's good looking,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, I do one of those things. But

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<v Speaker 1>then it's like, if she knows you're lying, shouldn't you

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<v Speaker 1>just be honest? Then my wife knows me well enough

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<v Speaker 1>to know when I'm lying and not lying. So even

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<v Speaker 1>when I lie, like I know that she knows, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna, you know, do

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<v Speaker 1>what Dean said, which is, yeah, yeah, she's hot, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're just agreeing with what someone already said. So it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>how is that? Um, it's not bad, but I always

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<v Speaker 1>I try to, you know, just reassure Ashley, be like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if I like, if i've yeah, like if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm dating a guy who maybe has like a dad

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<v Speaker 1>bought and he'd be like, oh man, look at the

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<v Speaker 1>guys like rock solid abs. Well, I guess my honest

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<v Speaker 1>answer would be like, Okay, I mean like that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really impress me. But like I also could see

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<v Speaker 1>me saying like, dude, that guy's in like tip top shape,

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<v Speaker 1>holy or something. He'd be like, oh, I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>she wants me to have these abs. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I always uh to flip the script a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit whenever, not whenever, But there are times where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, Tyler C is so hot to Klin.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, always like Kylin, don't you think Tyler

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<v Speaker 1>C is just the hottest man alive? And She's always

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<v Speaker 1>like you no, like I'm not into him, So she

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<v Speaker 1>definitely takes the lane, the lane of like she doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>tell me when other people are attracted. So do you

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<v Speaker 1>think she actually thinks he's hot? Um? I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>she actually. I think that he's just not her type.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just think that that man is niversally attractive.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like I would imagine every person, but I like,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say he's my type either, so I wouldn't say, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's hot, but I do think he's attracted. Know. It's funny,

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<v Speaker 1>like I love how we have guy crushes because I

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<v Speaker 1>do the exact same thing with Ashley. We're like, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, of course I can't go freaking podcast without

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Tom Brady. But Tom Brady was on the

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<v Speaker 1>TV and I was like, damn he looks good? Doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>he look good? Ashley? Yeah, I mean I do the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing too. I have no problem admitted when I

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<v Speaker 1>when I see an attractive male, So I'm always like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that guy is so hot, isn't he? I wanted I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know you guys as type. So besides Tom Brady,

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<v Speaker 1>Dean and Jared, what are your guys like? Guy crushed question?

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when the Patriots drafted Jimmy Garoppolo. I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if there's anybody who's going to replace Tom Brady, No,

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy is not my type, right hair, So I'm all in,

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy is not my type. We don't have the same

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<v Speaker 1>taste in men. I guess, um, yeah, I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>think who else is like a really good, good looking guy? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you're thinking that you're thinking of athletes right now, aren't you? Yeah? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking a Dean, You're you're a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>I think is Yeah. I am very attracted to myself,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think that I always call myself. I like,

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<v Speaker 1>walk into a room and I'm like, I'm so hot?

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<v Speaker 1>Are and Kalin and She's like, yeah, you're so hot baby.

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<v Speaker 1>I fully believe that I think Dean, I think Dean

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<v Speaker 1>is the most because I can say this as a

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<v Speaker 1>heterosexual man, as and as your friend. I think Dean

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<v Speaker 1>is the best looking guy from the Bachelor franchise. Whoa dude,

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<v Speaker 1>you just knocked my socks off. Look, I literally was,

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<v Speaker 1>I was wearing socks. Now, they're not people ladies and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 1>But I will say this in non offensive way, Dean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you are attractive, but I think it's your

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<v Speaker 1>personality that adds value. Yeah, it's like how so it's

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<v Speaker 1>like like but like I mean, but like I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I could say to a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>people in the Bachelor franchise like I'd don't think are

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<v Speaker 1>totally attractive, but I'm sure if they had like great personalities,

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<v Speaker 1>they would be. Like Dylan Barber, I think he's attractive,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's honestly a huge reason is because

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<v Speaker 1>he's hilarious. Let's look at like a Wells Adams for instance.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like a good looking guy, but his personality makes

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<v Speaker 1>him even. It puts him from a nine point five

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<v Speaker 1>to a ten. Yeah, Jared, you're like ten, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you open your mouth and you dropped down to a

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<v Speaker 1>nine point five. I mean at least I'm in ten. Thanks. Yeah, Jared,

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<v Speaker 1>don't take it. He's just getting too cocky because we

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<v Speaker 1>just said to get But Dean, what's your guy crush?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's your type? I would say, like maybe more like slim,

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<v Speaker 1>slender but still buff, like zac Efron type, but maybe

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<v Speaker 1>like a little taller than Zach got Fron good has

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<v Speaker 1>got from him and neighbors. Yeah, zac Efron without the beard.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got the beard now, I like like a little

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<v Speaker 1>baby face. I need like a sexy stubble. Yeah, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>maybe clean shaven. Um. I think my my bar for

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<v Speaker 1>men is is pretty high. Like I only find a

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<v Speaker 1>few men attractive, zac Efron being one of them. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to think of who else big Kiano guy, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh from the Replacements with his long hair. Didn't trying

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<v Speaker 1>to grow my hair like Shane Falco. You know I

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<v Speaker 1>could see that? Yeah, I mean I guess I could say,

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<v Speaker 1>like the very classic Brad Pitt from Fight Club. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that's just that's the pinnacle, right, Like you're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get any better than that, the pinnacle of what

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<v Speaker 1>a man should look like. I agree, it really is.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's like the slender physique that I like about

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<v Speaker 1>a guy, you know, like I don't want to do

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<v Speaker 1>too muscular, but I don't want him to be too

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<v Speaker 1>skinny either. That's just like they're good in between right there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's a guy crushing mine right now. It's random.

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<v Speaker 1>But Pete Davidson, Yeah, that's weird, big Pete Davidson guy.

1:10:43.080 --> 1:10:45.559
<v Speaker 1>I watched The King of Staten Island and I love

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<v Speaker 1>him on SNL and I watched a lot of his

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube good stuff. Yeah, I just I don't think he

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<v Speaker 1>really treats his partners very well, does he. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>heard anything that bad. I mean, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't looked too much. I not only know the Ariana

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<v Speaker 1>Grande stuff, But like, I guess I'm just team Mariana

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<v Speaker 1>through that, I'm team Pete. So what should we give

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<v Speaker 1>advice for? So you guys are saying it's totally fine

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<v Speaker 1>to think other people are attractive, But my follow up

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<v Speaker 1>question to that, for you boys, what's the point of

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<v Speaker 1>thinking somebody's attractive and then lusting over someone? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like lusting is kind of a form of like disrespect. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>lusting is a form of respect. There also needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be a line drawn, like, yeah, you can find other

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<v Speaker 1>people attractive, obviously we all do. But like if he

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<v Speaker 1>or your person or your significant others like liking bikini

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<v Speaker 1>picks on Instagram NonStop, that's like maybe a red flag too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a big red flag. I agree, because then they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get noticed and that's bad. Yeah, that's an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting way to put it. Yeah, they're trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>noticed by liking those photos, and it's like, what purpose

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<v Speaker 1>does it served anyways? Um? Yeah, I see different, But

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine. What do you What do you say? I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I really truly don't. Really. I mean, okay, if she's

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<v Speaker 1>topless or something like a nude yikes. Um, But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a problem with like bathing suit picks or

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<v Speaker 1>a workout with tight leggings, Like I don't if you

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<v Speaker 1>if you know the person and you're liking I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have an issue if you like Pamela Anderson or something,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like kind of weird, but liking a photo if

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<v Speaker 1>you're leaving like fire emojis beneath. Since been on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>when we've talked about this before, you boys weren't there.

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<v Speaker 1>It was me and Vanessa and we I was my

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<v Speaker 1>debate is I really don't mind if you just like

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<v Speaker 1>a photo shore sliding into d m s or commenting

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<v Speaker 1>like fire or heart emojis. Yeah, that's weird, But liking

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<v Speaker 1>a picture literally means nothing to me in my eyes. Yes, liking,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, if you know the person, it's totally

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<v Speaker 1>fine if it's a bikini pick or whatever. But if

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<v Speaker 1>it's like some random Instagram model, and it's like, thought

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<v Speaker 1>after thought of all these Instagram models, of these pictures

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<v Speaker 1>that this person doesn't know, Like when I think of

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<v Speaker 1>like some of the accounts my friends follow on Instagram, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like these girls that like quickly curate

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<v Speaker 1>their photos to look like they have huge butts and

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<v Speaker 1>big boobs and stuff, and that there are people that

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<v Speaker 1>they are never gonna meet, never will even cross paths with,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like liking their photos. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that that would have to be appropriate for someone that

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<v Speaker 1>has a girlfriend, you know what I mean. I also

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<v Speaker 1>think it might create insecurities in the relationship, because then

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<v Speaker 1>if you're liking a photo of a guy's liking a

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<v Speaker 1>photo of a Instagram model who looks like she has

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect bod, then I'm sure if you're dating someone,

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<v Speaker 1>she's going to start thinking, well, is that what he wants?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I don't have that, so I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you should like it. I could talk about this for days,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have one last follow up question. Can boys

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<v Speaker 1>see when we edit a photo? Like, do you guys

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<v Speaker 1>notice I've never used phase tune, but I can't figure

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't see the curved in waste, or like

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<v Speaker 1>the deformed rocks in the background, like I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>notice that, or like the extra white teeth, But do guys, like,

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<v Speaker 1>can you guys pick up on that? I think I

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<v Speaker 1>pick up on it when I see a video of

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<v Speaker 1>the person and it doesn't align with the photos that

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen of the person. And I think that's the

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<v Speaker 1>common thing that you see is a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>girls will like post an edited photo. But then if

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<v Speaker 1>they're like in a video and they look like a

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<v Speaker 1>normal person, not like this air brushed whatever, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. So that's how that's how I notice it.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's kind of hard to pick up on sometimes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I guess I if I see like a

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<v Speaker 1>perfect photo of a girl, oh my god, that's fake.

1:14:30.320 --> 1:14:32.599
<v Speaker 1>So like I don't. I there's no like, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>things that I notice. But for instance, my buddy was

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<v Speaker 1>creeping on Olivia Coppo the other day and he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>Olivia Coupo was so hot, and like, she is a

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<v Speaker 1>very attractive person, but she in addition to like air

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<v Speaker 1>brushing and all those things, like she has to get

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<v Speaker 1>cosmetic work done. And so it's like, how are you,

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<v Speaker 1>like you can't even hold anyone else to the same

1:14:51.600 --> 1:14:54.479
<v Speaker 1>standard that Olivia Colpo is because a she's like super

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<v Speaker 1>wealthy and can afford all these luxurious augmenting surgeries, and

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<v Speaker 1>then on top of that, she's editing your photos to

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<v Speaker 1>look even more on human. So it's like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's like that's kind of the thing too, where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like we are like putting all these people on pedestals.

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<v Speaker 1>And like I said, don't get me wrong, Olivia Cope

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<v Speaker 1>was beautiful, but she would be beautiful without all the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that she's done to herself. And then we set

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<v Speaker 1>the standard for other women to like look like that

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<v Speaker 1>or as good as that, and it's just like unattainable,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's always a competition. It's like oh I look

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<v Speaker 1>like this or like better than that. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. I don't know. Olivia is from Roady. I've

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<v Speaker 1>met her a couple of times. She's she's very very nice,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's very beautiful. No, I absolutely agree that she's

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<v Speaker 1>very beautiful. But I just think that sometimes we said

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<v Speaker 1>the standard of beauty as an unattainable level. We need

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<v Speaker 1>you to stop doing that. I agree that I'll do it.

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<v Speaker 1>For this week's episode of Holp, I stuck at dating.

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<v Speaker 1>We all agreed on one thing finally finally took years. Yeah. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Big thank you to Jen Kersh for jumping on the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast with us and telling us all about her podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're interested in hearing more from her, be sure

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<v Speaker 1>to check out Lockdown Love. Where have you subscribed to podcasts?

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<v Speaker 1>Big thank you to our listeners for emailing us Sierra,

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<v Speaker 1>Ariel and Joe. Joe were expecting to hear some updates

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<v Speaker 1>from you later on, so please stick with it. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course, big thank you to all of you

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<v Speaker 1>guys for being part of this the Best Podcast People's

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<v Speaker 1>Choice Award. Suck Armies gonna take us there. I also

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<v Speaker 1>think we have some live thing that we're doing next month,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe we should wait to tease that yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know the information in front of me. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have a live thing coming up. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's like August eighteenth, but just stick around for that

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<v Speaker 1>because a lot of exciting stuff. We also need to

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<v Speaker 1>give away these beanies. Well they're you know, taking up

1:16:43.520 --> 1:16:45.240
<v Speaker 1>space in your place, so they're really not a concern

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<v Speaker 1>of me, but we could think we could still give

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<v Speaker 1>them away, you know. Yeah, I'm gonna I'll concoct something

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram this week and we'll get rid of some

1:16:53.520 --> 1:16:59.719
<v Speaker 1>of these beanis concoct Yeah, yeah, nicely done. Yeah. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>that'll do it for this week's episode. Thank you again

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<v Speaker 1>so much for listening. Be sure to tune in next week,

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<v Speaker 1>where maybe we'll all suck just a little bit less.

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