1 00:00:06,413 --> 00:00:08,933 Speaker 1: NFL Cover zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is 2 00:00:08,933 --> 00:00:11,893 Speaker 1: a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast. 3 00:00:20,653 --> 00:00:24,813 Speaker 2: It is NFL Cover zero, Matt Jones, Drew Franklin Back 4 00:00:24,852 --> 00:00:29,653 Speaker 2: with you, uh for a little midweek getting into week seven. Drew, 5 00:00:30,173 --> 00:00:33,013 Speaker 2: I see that Titans gear over there. We're gonna talk 6 00:00:33,013 --> 00:00:34,893 Speaker 2: about you got a new coach, you got some new 7 00:00:35,013 --> 00:00:39,453 Speaker 2: swagger walking in. How's it going on. I'm still proudly 8 00:00:39,493 --> 00:00:40,573 Speaker 2: wearing my Titans gear. 9 00:00:40,573 --> 00:00:42,333 Speaker 3: But they were big in the news this week, and 10 00:00:42,333 --> 00:00:44,093 Speaker 3: they have a big game on Sunday that I've got 11 00:00:44,133 --> 00:00:44,733 Speaker 3: my eyes on. 12 00:00:45,213 --> 00:00:47,693 Speaker 2: What is the Patriots? Is that right? Vrabel's coming home? 13 00:00:47,853 --> 00:00:49,693 Speaker 2: That's good? Well, we will we will get to all 14 00:00:49,733 --> 00:00:49,933 Speaker 2: of that. 15 00:00:50,733 --> 00:00:53,613 Speaker 1: I want to thank everybody who's been listening here on 16 00:00:53,853 --> 00:00:57,773 Speaker 1: NFL Cover zero. Our listeners continue to grow every week. 17 00:00:57,853 --> 00:01:00,893 Speaker 1: Make sure you tell your friends about it, or you know, 18 00:01:01,053 --> 00:01:04,732 Speaker 1: just people that you meet around the way. We it's 19 00:01:04,733 --> 00:01:07,013 Speaker 1: a Wednesday. So one of the things I like to 20 00:01:07,053 --> 00:01:08,893 Speaker 1: do when we start the midweek show is talk about 21 00:01:08,973 --> 00:01:11,013 Speaker 1: what happened on Monday night football. Because we didn't get 22 00:01:11,012 --> 00:01:13,252 Speaker 1: to talk about it two games. I think we got 23 00:01:13,292 --> 00:01:18,172 Speaker 1: to start with my Chicago Bears okay, folks that I 24 00:01:18,292 --> 00:01:21,532 Speaker 1: said going into last week, Drew, this is the game 25 00:01:22,212 --> 00:01:24,932 Speaker 1: that that this is a big night for Caleb Williams 26 00:01:24,973 --> 00:01:28,013 Speaker 1: and he comes through, gets a field goal, they win 27 00:01:28,572 --> 00:01:32,693 Speaker 1: at the buzzer. Are you now, like, did Caleb make 28 00:01:32,732 --> 00:01:34,013 Speaker 1: the statement he needed to make? 29 00:01:34,212 --> 00:01:35,973 Speaker 3: I think you did. I said going into it. If 30 00:01:35,973 --> 00:01:38,533 Speaker 3: you can win that game, that's a big breakthrough primetime 31 00:01:38,613 --> 00:01:41,292 Speaker 3: win against a team that haunted you last year. 32 00:01:41,732 --> 00:01:43,213 Speaker 2: Was that three in a row? Now three in a 33 00:01:43,292 --> 00:01:45,613 Speaker 2: row just one week one? You should be four, be 34 00:01:45,693 --> 00:01:46,853 Speaker 2: four and one right now. 35 00:01:46,973 --> 00:01:49,252 Speaker 3: But it was a fun game to watch neutral observer 36 00:01:49,333 --> 00:01:52,213 Speaker 3: here of a just a nice dramatic finish. Commanders obviously 37 00:01:52,253 --> 00:01:54,493 Speaker 3: had it, let it slip and you get the big 38 00:01:54,493 --> 00:01:55,053 Speaker 3: field goal in. 39 00:01:55,013 --> 00:01:56,532 Speaker 2: The middle of the weather. So it was fucking out. 40 00:01:56,773 --> 00:01:57,813 Speaker 2: I know you were excited. 41 00:01:57,853 --> 00:02:01,933 Speaker 1: A northeaster hit towards the end of the game, which, 42 00:02:02,053 --> 00:02:04,373 Speaker 1: as I have learned in the last few days, just 43 00:02:04,453 --> 00:02:07,533 Speaker 1: means win from the northeast. Feels like it shouldn't get 44 00:02:07,573 --> 00:02:09,653 Speaker 1: its own name, but it does. But they kicked the 45 00:02:09,653 --> 00:02:12,573 Speaker 1: field goal. Jake Moody, who had been sent away by 46 00:02:12,613 --> 00:02:14,573 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, kicks it. I knew he was 47 00:02:14,613 --> 00:02:16,853 Speaker 1: excited because in the postgame interview he didn't even take 48 00:02:16,893 --> 00:02:17,532 Speaker 1: his helmet off. 49 00:02:18,693 --> 00:02:20,413 Speaker 3: That was one of my favorite parts of the whole night, 50 00:02:20,533 --> 00:02:22,653 Speaker 3: as you know, just yapping right through the face Max. 51 00:02:24,133 --> 00:02:25,653 Speaker 2: Did he not want to be seen? Has he never 52 00:02:25,693 --> 00:02:28,253 Speaker 2: been interviewed in the football game before? He was like, 53 00:02:28,893 --> 00:02:31,573 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, helmet on the entire time the mood. 54 00:02:31,613 --> 00:02:33,333 Speaker 3: He played hero at the end, but there was a 55 00:02:33,373 --> 00:02:35,813 Speaker 3: stretch there in the second half where DeAndre Swift was 56 00:02:35,853 --> 00:02:36,853 Speaker 3: going wherever he wanted to. 57 00:02:36,973 --> 00:02:38,053 Speaker 2: He was the real star of the night. 58 00:02:38,053 --> 00:02:40,333 Speaker 1: I used to have for the Bears or running back 59 00:02:40,413 --> 00:02:42,532 Speaker 1: like that, but I think this was huge for Caleb Williams. 60 00:02:42,813 --> 00:02:46,213 Speaker 1: We talked about that was where the Hail Mary was 61 00:02:46,293 --> 00:02:48,813 Speaker 1: last year. That kind of changed the fortunes of each 62 00:02:48,853 --> 00:02:54,133 Speaker 1: of those teams. Troy Aikman just was harsh on Caleb 63 00:02:54,133 --> 00:02:57,093 Speaker 1: all night. Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson both said they 64 00:02:57,093 --> 00:03:01,693 Speaker 1: went back and watched the game footage to see how 65 00:03:02,653 --> 00:03:06,093 Speaker 1: much Troy Aikman had criticized them, and they both were like, 66 00:03:07,053 --> 00:03:09,093 Speaker 1: what's up, Troy, What do you think you're doing? Did 67 00:03:09,133 --> 00:03:11,453 Speaker 1: you think as watching it, the Troy Agman was too 68 00:03:11,533 --> 00:03:13,133 Speaker 1: harsh on Caleb Williams throughout the game. 69 00:03:13,173 --> 00:03:14,733 Speaker 3: I noticed a couple of times because he's on the 70 00:03:14,813 --> 00:03:17,813 Speaker 3: road on Monday night football in his second year in 71 00:03:17,853 --> 00:03:19,693 Speaker 3: the Rain. I don't know what you're expecting of him. 72 00:03:20,053 --> 00:03:23,613 Speaker 3: I just saw today. Actually he's on pace for four 73 00:03:23,653 --> 00:03:26,653 Speaker 3: thousand and nine passing yards. The Bears have never had 74 00:03:26,693 --> 00:03:28,773 Speaker 3: anyone throw for four thousand yards, So I. 75 00:03:28,773 --> 00:03:30,733 Speaker 2: Don't know Troy. He's kind of on a decent pace 76 00:03:30,813 --> 00:03:33,173 Speaker 2: chase in history than Troy was so harsh to him. 77 00:03:33,173 --> 00:03:36,173 Speaker 1: I mean they showed some moment like he threw a 78 00:03:36,253 --> 00:03:39,853 Speaker 1: pass and it like, for those of you watching at home, 79 00:03:40,853 --> 00:03:43,133 Speaker 1: Troy the past with the receiver caught it right in 80 00:03:43,133 --> 00:03:45,333 Speaker 1: front of his face, but he dropped it, so he 81 00:03:45,453 --> 00:03:47,053 Speaker 1: like it hit right in front of his face, and 82 00:03:47,093 --> 00:03:49,613 Speaker 1: Troy was like, you can't throw it there. And in 83 00:03:49,653 --> 00:03:52,213 Speaker 1: my mind, I was like, that's exactly where you throw 84 00:03:52,253 --> 00:03:54,333 Speaker 1: it right here. He's like, can't throw it there. It 85 00:03:54,373 --> 00:03:57,213 Speaker 1: did feel like Troy. You think he Caleb beat him 86 00:03:57,213 --> 00:04:01,493 Speaker 1: at warcraft or something being grumpy. He didn't have a 87 00:04:01,493 --> 00:04:02,173 Speaker 1: turnover either. 88 00:04:02,213 --> 00:04:05,893 Speaker 2: Did He didn't blame Jayden Daniels when he fumbled, when 89 00:04:05,973 --> 00:04:09,653 Speaker 2: he was like, eh, it's raining. Things happened and he 90 00:04:09,693 --> 00:04:10,213 Speaker 2: had a pick. 91 00:04:10,253 --> 00:04:12,973 Speaker 3: Also, I think it was zero turnovers to two turnovers 92 00:04:12,973 --> 00:04:15,053 Speaker 3: in that second year QB battle. 93 00:04:15,053 --> 00:04:16,893 Speaker 1: Now do you think it's weird though, that Ben Johnson 94 00:04:16,892 --> 00:04:20,293 Speaker 1: and Caleb Williams got up the next morning to listen 95 00:04:20,933 --> 00:04:23,733 Speaker 1: to the commentary to see how many was to him? 96 00:04:23,892 --> 00:04:26,573 Speaker 3: Nah, they're both young, new in their positions. They have 97 00:04:26,613 --> 00:04:29,733 Speaker 3: their doubters, whatever fire you need. Somebody probably tipped them 98 00:04:29,733 --> 00:04:31,772 Speaker 3: off like, hey, they'd be a little harsh on the broadcast, 99 00:04:31,813 --> 00:04:32,693 Speaker 3: and you wo that. 100 00:04:32,972 --> 00:04:34,893 Speaker 1: But the story was that Ben Johnson said he came 101 00:04:34,933 --> 00:04:38,013 Speaker 1: down to get cereal the next morning and his kid 102 00:04:38,733 --> 00:04:42,652 Speaker 1: was listening to the Troy Aikman commentary. 103 00:04:42,733 --> 00:04:46,212 Speaker 2: That doesn't strike me is how old is this kid? 104 00:04:46,253 --> 00:04:48,533 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean the kid was two years old. 105 00:04:48,573 --> 00:04:52,532 Speaker 2: I need I need to see how they're disrespecting Caleb Like, so, 106 00:04:52,613 --> 00:04:54,573 Speaker 2: I didn't know if I bought that just to own up. 107 00:04:54,652 --> 00:04:56,293 Speaker 2: You wanted to see what he said? Yeah, well it 108 00:04:56,293 --> 00:04:57,133 Speaker 2: doesn't shock me. 109 00:04:57,212 --> 00:04:59,053 Speaker 3: It does shock me that his child was in there 110 00:04:59,053 --> 00:05:00,972 Speaker 3: playing with toys saying come listen to dad. But the 111 00:05:01,053 --> 00:05:02,893 Speaker 3: fact that he would take that personally, want to hear it. 112 00:05:03,173 --> 00:05:05,852 Speaker 3: I saw his postgame speech in the locker room after. 113 00:05:06,133 --> 00:05:08,573 Speaker 2: What is that about it. He's passionate. He is. Yeah, 114 00:05:08,613 --> 00:05:11,093 Speaker 2: he's yelling, don't blink. And it was about two and 115 00:05:11,133 --> 00:05:13,893 Speaker 2: a half minutes long. I mean, you've Ben Johnson, new 116 00:05:13,933 --> 00:05:16,573 Speaker 2: guy had to playbook and with the Lions forever, but 117 00:05:16,772 --> 00:05:19,133 Speaker 2: didn't know a lot about his personality. He set some passion. 118 00:05:19,212 --> 00:05:22,133 Speaker 2: We're getting more of these postgame locker room speeches like 119 00:05:22,173 --> 00:05:24,892 Speaker 2: I remember you used to you'd hear it, like once 120 00:05:24,933 --> 00:05:27,413 Speaker 2: a year, you'd hear how about them Cowboys? 121 00:05:27,493 --> 00:05:31,452 Speaker 1: And now every week we are seeing what the coaches saying. 122 00:05:31,693 --> 00:05:33,373 Speaker 2: Do you like it? Yeah? One more thing I just 123 00:05:33,373 --> 00:05:34,333 Speaker 2: thought of. It popped in my head. 124 00:05:34,373 --> 00:05:36,493 Speaker 3: I think they have like eleven takeaways in the last 125 00:05:36,532 --> 00:05:39,172 Speaker 3: three weeks, and he's like, don't let anybody. 126 00:05:38,693 --> 00:05:40,932 Speaker 2: Tell you takeaways are lucky. They're not lucky. 127 00:05:41,013 --> 00:05:42,972 Speaker 3: Let's go get more of them so you are fired 128 00:05:43,053 --> 00:05:44,212 Speaker 3: up on your turnovers too. 129 00:05:44,693 --> 00:05:46,253 Speaker 2: He likes it. They're a little lucky, but. 130 00:05:46,972 --> 00:05:48,253 Speaker 3: It is a little I don't want him to know. 131 00:05:48,332 --> 00:05:50,973 Speaker 3: I said that after hearing how he Sander Stumble. 132 00:05:50,613 --> 00:05:52,053 Speaker 2: At the end was lucky. But do you like these 133 00:05:52,053 --> 00:05:53,373 Speaker 2: speeches in the locker room? Yeah? 134 00:05:53,373 --> 00:05:56,212 Speaker 3: I like all the access we're getting now. Players miked 135 00:05:56,293 --> 00:05:57,293 Speaker 3: up and practice and. 136 00:05:57,133 --> 00:05:59,532 Speaker 1: And do you think the coaches are now knowing it's 137 00:05:59,532 --> 00:06:02,772 Speaker 1: going to be there, They're coming in feeling like they 138 00:06:02,853 --> 00:06:03,253 Speaker 1: have to. 139 00:06:04,493 --> 00:06:08,532 Speaker 3: They got to performatrix. Also, it's not lost on me 140 00:06:08,613 --> 00:06:11,013 Speaker 3: that they cut these up. What are we cutting out? 141 00:06:11,053 --> 00:06:12,573 Speaker 3: I want to hear that part I did too. 142 00:06:12,693 --> 00:06:14,892 Speaker 2: Well. We don't see the losing ones. Yeah, maybe some 143 00:06:14,972 --> 00:06:18,373 Speaker 2: language subsalted. I would like to have seen Mike McDaniels 144 00:06:18,452 --> 00:06:19,013 Speaker 2: last week. 145 00:06:19,092 --> 00:06:22,052 Speaker 1: I want We don't get to see the losing ones, unfortunately, 146 00:06:22,092 --> 00:06:25,573 Speaker 1: but as a Bears fan, I'm very excited. You know, 147 00:06:25,733 --> 00:06:29,053 Speaker 1: I've been a Bears fan my entire life. I started 148 00:06:29,053 --> 00:06:31,372 Speaker 1: as a little kid in nineteen eighty five, and since 149 00:06:31,412 --> 00:06:34,853 Speaker 1: then it just hasn't been good. This is the quarterback 150 00:06:34,933 --> 00:06:37,452 Speaker 1: we've been looking for since the punky QB know Nas 151 00:06:37,532 --> 00:06:41,092 Speaker 1: McMahon and I believe an him. I believed an him before, yes, 152 00:06:41,253 --> 00:06:44,693 Speaker 1: before Monday, But now I'm in. I'm not being delusional, 153 00:06:44,772 --> 00:06:45,013 Speaker 1: am I? 154 00:06:45,693 --> 00:06:45,892 Speaker 2: No? 155 00:06:45,933 --> 00:06:48,453 Speaker 3: And He's it's not just that it's him. He's got 156 00:06:48,452 --> 00:06:51,853 Speaker 3: a great young coach, offensive minded in Swift's got a 157 00:06:51,853 --> 00:06:53,493 Speaker 3: little age on him, but a lot of pieces around 158 00:06:53,532 --> 00:06:55,532 Speaker 3: here that you own that he's building chemistry with. You 159 00:06:55,532 --> 00:06:57,173 Speaker 3: can see it you can see it forming right now. 160 00:06:57,332 --> 00:07:00,732 Speaker 1: Yeah, your guy, uh, your guy. Sorry, Luthor Burden got 161 00:07:00,733 --> 00:07:03,053 Speaker 1: a big catch about to see awesome. 162 00:07:03,412 --> 00:07:05,893 Speaker 2: Yes, I know he's right. So that was one Monday game. 163 00:07:05,892 --> 00:07:08,732 Speaker 2: Their money game, which I didn't watch any of, was 164 00:07:08,772 --> 00:07:11,973 Speaker 2: the Bills and the Falcons, and the Falcons kind of 165 00:07:12,093 --> 00:07:14,172 Speaker 2: dominated that game from start to finish. 166 00:07:14,253 --> 00:07:17,693 Speaker 1: They were up early held the league. You know, Josh 167 00:07:17,773 --> 00:07:21,732 Speaker 1: Allen loses to Michael Pennox Junior. Are you working like 168 00:07:21,893 --> 00:07:25,653 Speaker 1: the Bills were? Are my Super Bowl pick? The Bills 169 00:07:25,853 --> 00:07:29,813 Speaker 1: and the Eagles both are have taken losses with to 170 00:07:29,853 --> 00:07:33,613 Speaker 1: have two losses. Surprisingly, they were the definitive favorites. Are 171 00:07:33,653 --> 00:07:34,612 Speaker 1: you worried about them? 172 00:07:34,973 --> 00:07:35,253 Speaker 2: I am. 173 00:07:35,373 --> 00:07:39,173 Speaker 3: I'm shocked they dropped that one having lost one before it. 174 00:07:39,933 --> 00:07:43,173 Speaker 3: Robinson for the Falcons was just unstoppable here. I think 175 00:07:43,213 --> 00:07:45,413 Speaker 3: he said, I think you said, a record for yards 176 00:07:45,413 --> 00:07:47,653 Speaker 3: from scrimmage in a single game. He also had a 177 00:07:47,733 --> 00:07:50,692 Speaker 3: nasty block on Ed Oliver. That's what we were talking 178 00:07:50,733 --> 00:07:53,292 Speaker 3: earlier in the our season here on cover zero about 179 00:07:53,293 --> 00:07:55,573 Speaker 3: how running backs can't win MVP. But he's putting up 180 00:07:55,573 --> 00:07:58,413 Speaker 3: an MVP like performance for this Taylor. Yeah, he was 181 00:07:58,413 --> 00:08:00,413 Speaker 3: the star of the game there, but a shocking result. 182 00:08:00,453 --> 00:08:01,933 Speaker 3: I didn't think there was any way the Bills would 183 00:08:01,933 --> 00:08:02,533 Speaker 3: lose that one. 184 00:08:03,053 --> 00:08:06,133 Speaker 1: I'm kind of shocked by the NFL as a whole, 185 00:08:06,453 --> 00:08:10,053 Speaker 1: and this game showcased it about how wide open things are. 186 00:08:10,373 --> 00:08:12,573 Speaker 1: I mean, it does not feel like there is any 187 00:08:12,613 --> 00:08:17,493 Speaker 1: team that is definitively even close to the favorite, right, 188 00:08:17,533 --> 00:08:19,653 Speaker 1: I mean when you have the Bills and Eagles losing 189 00:08:19,693 --> 00:08:22,213 Speaker 1: two straight weeks, and not just losing two straight weeks. 190 00:08:22,453 --> 00:08:25,093 Speaker 1: The Eagles lose to the Giants, the Bills loose to 191 00:08:25,133 --> 00:08:28,213 Speaker 1: the Falcons. If there was ever a year that a 192 00:08:28,373 --> 00:08:31,013 Speaker 1: random team could sneak up and win a title, isn't 193 00:08:31,053 --> 00:08:31,533 Speaker 1: this the one? 194 00:08:31,773 --> 00:08:33,493 Speaker 2: Definitely? It's kind of twofold. 195 00:08:33,573 --> 00:08:35,573 Speaker 3: Of the teams we thought were elite are losing, and 196 00:08:35,573 --> 00:08:38,333 Speaker 3: then some teams like the Colts are five and one, 197 00:08:38,773 --> 00:08:40,653 Speaker 3: and then the odds up there with the Super Bowl 198 00:08:40,733 --> 00:08:42,413 Speaker 3: favorites now, so a lot of this has just been. 199 00:08:42,293 --> 00:08:42,852 Speaker 2: Flipped on me. 200 00:08:42,973 --> 00:08:45,693 Speaker 1: Just look, if you were to say, Okay, when the 201 00:08:45,733 --> 00:08:48,573 Speaker 1: season started, most people believe there were maybe five teams 202 00:08:48,573 --> 00:08:51,333 Speaker 1: that could win a title, right, you would go, Bills, Ravens, Chiefs, 203 00:08:51,693 --> 00:08:55,693 Speaker 1: then maybe Eagles, Lions. Okay, Bills and Eagles, back to 204 00:08:55,733 --> 00:08:59,653 Speaker 1: back losses, but for both teams, Ravens are one to five. 205 00:09:00,773 --> 00:09:04,293 Speaker 1: The Lions were kind of not really competitive for much 206 00:09:04,293 --> 00:09:06,573 Speaker 1: of the game against the Chiefs, and the Chiefs their 207 00:09:06,573 --> 00:09:09,733 Speaker 1: first two games they've won three straight. It's I can't 208 00:09:09,773 --> 00:09:12,413 Speaker 1: remember a year ever that the favorites have struggled as 209 00:09:12,493 --> 00:09:13,453 Speaker 1: much as they have this year. 210 00:09:13,773 --> 00:09:16,173 Speaker 3: Well, think if we were just talking Ravens Colts before 211 00:09:16,253 --> 00:09:18,493 Speaker 3: the year and I said two teams, one will be 212 00:09:18,493 --> 00:09:19,973 Speaker 3: one in five, the other will be one will be 213 00:09:20,013 --> 00:09:21,693 Speaker 3: five and one, what would the odds be on the 214 00:09:21,733 --> 00:09:23,613 Speaker 3: Colts being the five and one? Like, no one would 215 00:09:23,613 --> 00:09:25,253 Speaker 3: even believe a scenario where that could happen. 216 00:09:25,253 --> 00:09:27,893 Speaker 1: And who would have believed that if you had the 217 00:09:28,373 --> 00:09:31,373 Speaker 1: playoffs right now, the one seeds would be Tampa Bay 218 00:09:31,413 --> 00:09:34,733 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis exactly. But that's what you have. I like it, though, 219 00:09:35,093 --> 00:09:37,573 Speaker 1: I mean, this is the NFL's dream. I mean I 220 00:09:37,613 --> 00:09:39,053 Speaker 1: know that because we work for the. 221 00:09:39,133 --> 00:09:40,973 Speaker 2: NFL, so like I talk to them all the time, 222 00:09:42,093 --> 00:09:43,973 Speaker 2: all the various people at the NFL. 223 00:09:43,893 --> 00:09:47,013 Speaker 1: Like, what's up, Bob, But this is what they want. 224 00:09:47,173 --> 00:09:49,533 Speaker 1: They want paired. They wanted to wear every team that's 225 00:09:49,573 --> 00:09:51,533 Speaker 1: not the Titans or the Jets. Feels like they can 226 00:09:51,573 --> 00:09:54,653 Speaker 1: win in a given week, and they have that right now. 227 00:09:54,893 --> 00:09:56,813 Speaker 3: I was watching Good Morning Football this morning and one 228 00:09:56,853 --> 00:09:59,173 Speaker 3: of the segments was redoing their power rankings. 229 00:09:59,533 --> 00:10:01,653 Speaker 2: You know, four or five panelists up there. 230 00:10:01,733 --> 00:10:04,453 Speaker 3: What made it interesting is like their rankings weren't even 231 00:10:04,453 --> 00:10:06,373 Speaker 3: close to each other. I mean there were teams that 232 00:10:06,373 --> 00:10:08,653 Speaker 3: were in some top fives that probably weren't another top ten. 233 00:10:08,733 --> 00:10:09,893 Speaker 2: So who would be your top five? 234 00:10:09,933 --> 00:10:12,053 Speaker 3: I think somebody had the Seahawks in their top five, 235 00:10:12,133 --> 00:10:14,293 Speaker 3: which is crazy, but it just shows how the parody 236 00:10:14,253 --> 00:10:14,613 Speaker 3: of your mention. 237 00:10:14,693 --> 00:10:16,773 Speaker 2: Well, let's just do our top five? Okay, who would be? 238 00:10:17,173 --> 00:10:19,493 Speaker 2: Who would be your top five? Right now? I can't 239 00:10:19,533 --> 00:10:21,333 Speaker 2: believe I'm doing this here, I'll do it since I'll 240 00:10:21,333 --> 00:10:22,333 Speaker 2: put you on the spot. 241 00:10:22,573 --> 00:10:24,053 Speaker 3: Let me give you my one because I'm ready. I 242 00:10:24,133 --> 00:10:26,733 Speaker 3: can't believe, but I'm putting the Chiefs back. We gotta 243 00:10:26,813 --> 00:10:28,933 Speaker 3: quit running from it. The Chiefs are still the Chiefs. 244 00:10:29,093 --> 00:10:31,373 Speaker 3: They get Rashi Rice back this week. We saw what 245 00:10:31,413 --> 00:10:34,373 Speaker 3: happened when they got Worthy back. They're back to my one. 246 00:10:35,453 --> 00:10:36,893 Speaker 2: I actually really liked that pick. 247 00:10:37,213 --> 00:10:40,453 Speaker 1: I think for me today, if you said the game 248 00:10:40,573 --> 00:10:42,733 Speaker 1: was gonna be tomorrow, who would you take. I'm putting 249 00:10:42,733 --> 00:10:45,813 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, So I was gonna go Chiefs one, and 250 00:10:45,853 --> 00:10:49,773 Speaker 1: then I was gonna go Bucks two. For me, I'm 251 00:10:49,773 --> 00:10:53,213 Speaker 1: gonna go Lions three because they lost at the Chiefs 252 00:10:53,213 --> 00:10:57,613 Speaker 1: but otherwise had looked really good. Maybe I'm silly, but 253 00:10:57,733 --> 00:11:01,293 Speaker 1: I'm then still gonna go Eagles four, Bills five. I 254 00:11:01,333 --> 00:11:03,493 Speaker 1: know though, that I'm leaving out the Colts, and I'm 255 00:11:03,573 --> 00:11:06,773 Speaker 1: leaving out the Packers and other teams, but I'm gonna go. 256 00:11:06,853 --> 00:11:10,493 Speaker 1: So I will go Chiefs, Bucks, Lions, Eagles, Bills. But 257 00:11:10,573 --> 00:11:12,253 Speaker 1: I don't feel great about any of those. 258 00:11:12,293 --> 00:11:12,933 Speaker 2: What are yours? 259 00:11:13,093 --> 00:11:15,573 Speaker 3: And Chiefs won I agree with you on I'm torn 260 00:11:15,613 --> 00:11:18,333 Speaker 3: between Bucks and Lions two three, and that's our Monday 261 00:11:18,373 --> 00:11:19,493 Speaker 3: night football game this week. 262 00:11:19,533 --> 00:11:21,853 Speaker 2: So that will look at you. That will answer, and 263 00:11:21,893 --> 00:11:25,293 Speaker 2: that will answer itself here in a few days. I 264 00:11:25,373 --> 00:11:27,933 Speaker 2: think it four. You're not gonna take the Eagles. I'm 265 00:11:27,933 --> 00:11:32,613 Speaker 2: going Colts. Colts, They've been tested, they keep answering. When 266 00:11:32,653 --> 00:11:36,013 Speaker 2: they play a bad team, they pummel them. I had Colts. 267 00:11:35,733 --> 00:11:38,013 Speaker 3: Ranked dead last beginning of the year. It wasn't me 268 00:11:38,093 --> 00:11:39,973 Speaker 3: being a hater. I really thought the Colts were going 269 00:11:40,053 --> 00:11:41,933 Speaker 3: to be terrible. With Daniel Jones, who didn't think they'd 270 00:11:41,973 --> 00:11:44,333 Speaker 3: be terrible. I gotta give them credit because when they 271 00:11:44,333 --> 00:11:46,613 Speaker 3: play a bad team, they destroy them. They could be 272 00:11:46,693 --> 00:11:48,893 Speaker 3: undefeated right now if you don't have that fumble at 273 00:11:48,933 --> 00:11:50,453 Speaker 3: the go line. So I have to put them there 274 00:11:50,493 --> 00:11:54,453 Speaker 3: and then I'll go bills. But I'm leaning I'm limping 275 00:11:54,493 --> 00:11:57,693 Speaker 3: in to putting your tough no, just nuts. 276 00:11:57,813 --> 00:12:00,493 Speaker 1: It is interesting, though, that's a hard list because you're right, 277 00:12:00,533 --> 00:12:04,093 Speaker 1: you're leaving out the Seahawks. I left out the Colts. 278 00:12:05,333 --> 00:12:08,173 Speaker 1: Then you throw in the Packers, although they've taken a 279 00:12:08,173 --> 00:12:10,613 Speaker 1: couple losses. It is a I can't remember a year 280 00:12:10,653 --> 00:12:26,373 Speaker 1: that this has been harder. All right, let's go over 281 00:12:26,773 --> 00:12:29,013 Speaker 1: some other things here. We mentioned the Chiefs and the Lions. 282 00:12:29,413 --> 00:12:32,213 Speaker 1: We taped our podcast the other night and did not 283 00:12:33,333 --> 00:12:35,533 Speaker 1: get into the fight. What do you think of the 284 00:12:35,533 --> 00:12:37,732 Speaker 1: fight after the end of the game, Branch is suspended 285 00:12:37,773 --> 00:12:38,333 Speaker 1: for one game. 286 00:12:38,373 --> 00:12:41,693 Speaker 2: Did you feel like that was fair? Yeah? Crazy fight. Really. 287 00:12:41,693 --> 00:12:43,773 Speaker 3: The craziest thing is that photo that came out of it, 288 00:12:43,893 --> 00:12:47,533 Speaker 3: where Juju's helmet is off and Branch his fists is 289 00:12:47,573 --> 00:12:49,733 Speaker 3: just a few inches from locking on that nose that 290 00:12:49,773 --> 00:12:51,933 Speaker 3: I guess got busted open. But you know a lot 291 00:12:51,933 --> 00:12:54,373 Speaker 3: of times you see guys pull on helmets in the wrestling, 292 00:12:54,453 --> 00:12:56,613 Speaker 3: it's rare you get a fight to that extent where 293 00:12:56,613 --> 00:12:58,253 Speaker 3: he actually had a fist to face. 294 00:12:58,733 --> 00:13:02,653 Speaker 2: Why was he mad? It looked like Mahomes just tried 295 00:13:02,693 --> 00:13:05,893 Speaker 2: to shake his hand and then he didn't want to 296 00:13:05,893 --> 00:13:06,453 Speaker 2: show it. 297 00:13:06,533 --> 00:13:10,053 Speaker 1: And then Juju's like, I think, sir, that you should 298 00:13:10,093 --> 00:13:13,293 Speaker 1: have accepted the congratulatory Like, why do. 299 00:13:13,253 --> 00:13:14,053 Speaker 2: You think he was so mad? 300 00:13:14,173 --> 00:13:16,533 Speaker 3: There was a block early in the game where Juju 301 00:13:16,813 --> 00:13:19,653 Speaker 3: it's not that in the back or illegal, but he 302 00:13:19,653 --> 00:13:21,373 Speaker 3: did get him a good pop when he wasn't you 303 00:13:21,373 --> 00:13:23,173 Speaker 3: don't think Mahomes had anything to do. 304 00:13:23,093 --> 00:13:23,733 Speaker 2: And I don't think so. 305 00:13:24,053 --> 00:13:26,733 Speaker 3: Juju even said in the post game that I could 306 00:13:26,773 --> 00:13:29,133 Speaker 3: fill throughout the game brand from ad about the block. 307 00:13:29,373 --> 00:13:31,653 Speaker 3: He was getting a little shitty, Yeah, he said, I 308 00:13:31,693 --> 00:13:33,693 Speaker 3: want to keep it between the whistles and the and 309 00:13:33,773 --> 00:13:35,853 Speaker 3: the horn. I didn't think he think was gonna blow 310 00:13:35,853 --> 00:13:37,813 Speaker 3: over like it did, but it seems to stim with 311 00:13:38,133 --> 00:13:39,333 Speaker 3: Juju hit him pretty good. 312 00:13:39,493 --> 00:13:41,693 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell seemed pretty mad about it. He said, we 313 00:13:41,733 --> 00:13:45,333 Speaker 1: don't do that. That's noth I like Dan Campbell's standing 314 00:13:45,413 --> 00:13:49,413 Speaker 1: up and saying that, But I don't know, I feel 315 00:13:49,453 --> 00:13:50,133 Speaker 1: like punched to. 316 00:13:50,133 --> 00:13:52,053 Speaker 2: The face he's on the ground. 317 00:13:52,413 --> 00:13:55,893 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I don't know. I might have gone two games. Yeah, 318 00:13:55,973 --> 00:13:58,733 Speaker 3: and it being I guess it shouldn't matter the scene. 319 00:13:58,813 --> 00:14:01,973 Speaker 3: But you're on the big stage playing the Chiefs. You 320 00:14:02,093 --> 00:14:04,093 Speaker 3: represent the NFL right there with all the as on. 321 00:14:04,213 --> 00:14:05,173 Speaker 2: No, I mean that matters. 322 00:14:05,333 --> 00:14:09,533 Speaker 1: I often think the suspensions for these things, it's inherent. 323 00:14:09,653 --> 00:14:12,493 Speaker 1: It'll be worse if everyone's watching, you know, it just 324 00:14:12,573 --> 00:14:15,093 Speaker 1: it's just it's just natural, like when everyone's watching that 325 00:14:15,173 --> 00:14:17,133 Speaker 1: when two on that one Thursday night game when he 326 00:14:17,173 --> 00:14:19,613 Speaker 1: got hurt and we were all sitting there watching. I 327 00:14:19,613 --> 00:14:22,253 Speaker 1: think the DeMar Hamlin thing was on Monday night football. 328 00:14:22,453 --> 00:14:24,733 Speaker 1: I think it's just natural. People tend to gravitate it 329 00:14:24,813 --> 00:14:26,973 Speaker 1: more if the whole country is watching that moment. 330 00:14:27,373 --> 00:14:30,973 Speaker 3: Yeah, like if the you know, Titans were playing the Jets. 331 00:14:31,093 --> 00:14:33,333 Speaker 3: She brought that up earlier and this happens probably yeah. 332 00:14:33,213 --> 00:14:35,453 Speaker 2: No, No, one's not even a word. Yeah, I know 333 00:14:35,813 --> 00:14:37,773 Speaker 2: other people in the stadium are not watching it at 334 00:14:37,853 --> 00:14:39,053 Speaker 2: that point. Being the Chiefs in. 335 00:14:39,013 --> 00:14:41,613 Speaker 3: That moment, Mahomes being the one that doesn't shake his hand, 336 00:14:41,653 --> 00:14:42,333 Speaker 3: there's a lot to it. 337 00:14:42,533 --> 00:14:44,653 Speaker 1: So you're you're like me, now we both have the 338 00:14:44,693 --> 00:14:49,333 Speaker 1: Chiefs at number one. They're back yep, right this week, 339 00:14:49,773 --> 00:14:50,613 Speaker 1: like they're back. 340 00:14:50,453 --> 00:14:52,373 Speaker 3: And they've already said like, we're not going to ease 341 00:14:52,413 --> 00:14:54,333 Speaker 3: him in. He's a big part of our workloads, so 342 00:14:54,373 --> 00:14:55,373 Speaker 3: they're going right to him. 343 00:14:55,413 --> 00:15:01,093 Speaker 1: And Travis Kelcey looks like Travis Kelcey again, Xavier Worthy doesn't. 344 00:15:01,133 --> 00:15:03,533 Speaker 2: I mean they're three and two. They should be four 345 00:15:03,533 --> 00:15:05,653 Speaker 2: and one, right, they could be five and zero. 346 00:15:05,813 --> 00:15:07,333 Speaker 1: I mean they could have won that game against the 347 00:15:07,413 --> 00:15:09,853 Speaker 1: Chargers down in Brazil. 348 00:15:09,973 --> 00:15:13,613 Speaker 2: I mean they are. I think they're they're back again. 349 00:15:13,693 --> 00:15:16,413 Speaker 3: Well once we what we've seen Worthy since he's been back, 350 00:15:16,453 --> 00:15:17,933 Speaker 3: I think if Kelsey doesn't. 351 00:15:17,773 --> 00:15:19,773 Speaker 2: Run into him, and it really could be undefeated. He's 352 00:15:19,813 --> 00:15:20,813 Speaker 2: a big part of what they do. 353 00:15:21,173 --> 00:15:23,653 Speaker 3: And even though Rice only played like four games last year, 354 00:15:23,693 --> 00:15:25,533 Speaker 3: he had good stats last year, so they have high 355 00:15:25,533 --> 00:15:26,093 Speaker 3: hopes for him. 356 00:15:26,173 --> 00:15:28,733 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I give you the floor again. You're 357 00:15:28,773 --> 00:15:32,613 Speaker 1: Titans fired, Brian Callahan. I know that that was something 358 00:15:32,653 --> 00:15:35,333 Speaker 1: you thought should happen. Were you happy? 359 00:15:35,693 --> 00:15:37,453 Speaker 2: No, they managed to even mess this up. 360 00:15:37,973 --> 00:15:40,893 Speaker 3: I wanted to watch Vrabel beat him by fifty on Sunday, 361 00:15:41,213 --> 00:15:44,493 Speaker 3: but these cowards wouldn't even let Vrabel bend him over 362 00:15:44,533 --> 00:15:47,093 Speaker 3: and spank him in Nashville and stuff him in a locker. 363 00:15:47,373 --> 00:15:51,293 Speaker 2: We all know one more embarrass wanted Vrabel. 364 00:15:51,693 --> 00:15:54,733 Speaker 3: We already know that letting Rabel go was a dumb 365 00:15:54,773 --> 00:15:58,293 Speaker 3: move and Callahan wasn't the right move. It's not like, 366 00:15:58,573 --> 00:16:01,173 Speaker 3: you know, can they compete? But I just wanted to 367 00:16:01,213 --> 00:16:03,093 Speaker 3: see it. I wanted able to have his moment. He 368 00:16:03,173 --> 00:16:05,973 Speaker 3: never should have been fired. Rabel's played it nice in 369 00:16:05,973 --> 00:16:08,173 Speaker 3: them all week. He said nothing but good things. I 370 00:16:08,213 --> 00:16:10,253 Speaker 3: can't wait to get to Nashville. But I know between 371 00:16:10,293 --> 00:16:12,733 Speaker 3: his ears he's thinking, I want to pummel them, And 372 00:16:12,813 --> 00:16:14,413 Speaker 3: I wanted Callahan to have to sit. 373 00:16:14,293 --> 00:16:16,853 Speaker 2: There and take it. Other than that, though this needed 374 00:16:16,853 --> 00:16:21,453 Speaker 2: to happen, it was not it, And who did was it? Riley? 375 00:16:21,573 --> 00:16:23,773 Speaker 2: Is that who they picked to be them? 376 00:16:24,293 --> 00:16:27,973 Speaker 3: McCoy McCoy who was hired as an analyst earlier this year. 377 00:16:28,093 --> 00:16:32,853 Speaker 2: I always get Mike Riley and Mike McCoy confused. First 378 00:16:32,853 --> 00:16:34,813 Speaker 2: of all, is there a person named Mike Riley? How 379 00:16:34,813 --> 00:16:37,253 Speaker 2: do I know that name? I don't know who that is. 380 00:16:37,493 --> 00:16:39,133 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, hang on, just a second. 381 00:16:39,573 --> 00:16:42,813 Speaker 1: Mike Riley was just called up by Mike Carolina Hurricanes 382 00:16:42,893 --> 00:16:45,933 Speaker 1: last night and he had an assist against the Sharks. 383 00:16:45,733 --> 00:16:50,173 Speaker 2: He's Mike McCoy. Oh, you think he's better than he 384 00:16:50,293 --> 00:16:52,213 Speaker 2: could coach, better than Brian Callahowe. 385 00:16:52,493 --> 00:16:57,853 Speaker 1: So wait, mat, you're saying the backup third string defenseman 386 00:16:58,093 --> 00:17:02,053 Speaker 1: from the Carolina Hurricanes last night, veteran Mike Riley is 387 00:17:02,093 --> 00:17:03,293 Speaker 1: better than Brian Kellay. 388 00:17:04,013 --> 00:17:09,612 Speaker 3: Brian Callahan was four and nineteen against the spread. Wow, 389 00:17:09,733 --> 00:17:12,013 Speaker 3: and they were mostly underdogs. 390 00:17:11,373 --> 00:17:14,693 Speaker 2: Like, you couldn't even get close nineteen against the spread. Yes, 391 00:17:15,093 --> 00:17:16,332 Speaker 2: they just lost to the Raiders. 392 00:17:16,333 --> 00:17:18,973 Speaker 3: An anonymous Raiders coach said, that is the worst football 393 00:17:19,013 --> 00:17:21,213 Speaker 3: team I've seen in twenty five years. There have been 394 00:17:21,213 --> 00:17:23,293 Speaker 3: teams that have not won games. There have been teams 395 00:17:23,333 --> 00:17:23,893 Speaker 3: that can't tire. 396 00:17:23,933 --> 00:17:26,453 Speaker 2: Shoot. There was an anonymous Raiders coach that says that 397 00:17:26,573 --> 00:17:28,453 Speaker 2: he said he say it to is this the sources 398 00:17:28,733 --> 00:17:31,493 Speaker 2: tell covers it. He was like a CBS story, Okay, 399 00:17:31,733 --> 00:17:34,253 Speaker 2: but said they do not have a single player on 400 00:17:34,293 --> 00:17:36,933 Speaker 2: their roster that makes a difference except for Jeffrey Simmons, 401 00:17:36,973 --> 00:17:39,853 Speaker 2: our big defensive lineman. Worst team in twenty five years 402 00:17:39,893 --> 00:17:43,773 Speaker 2: he's ever seen. But you won a game. It took 403 00:17:44,133 --> 00:17:45,333 Speaker 2: none doubles in them. 404 00:17:45,333 --> 00:17:47,093 Speaker 1: Tripping over this, I mean, I would argue that makes 405 00:17:47,133 --> 00:17:49,853 Speaker 1: the Jets worse if if they if they haven't won 406 00:17:49,893 --> 00:17:50,173 Speaker 1: a game. 407 00:17:50,373 --> 00:17:53,133 Speaker 2: So do you believe in Mike McCoy Well, I had 408 00:17:53,173 --> 00:17:56,812 Speaker 2: to google him. Former Chargers coach the Charge Yah and 409 00:17:56,813 --> 00:17:58,893 Speaker 2: played for Carolina Hurricanes. Yeah. 410 00:17:58,973 --> 00:18:00,653 Speaker 3: I think he's been in the league like twenty seven 411 00:18:00,733 --> 00:18:04,013 Speaker 3: years as a journeyman coordinator. We hired him in March 412 00:18:04,133 --> 00:18:05,213 Speaker 3: just to be like, hey, are you come in here 413 00:18:05,213 --> 00:18:06,653 Speaker 3: and look at some of this tape and even have 414 00:18:06,693 --> 00:18:09,373 Speaker 3: a real coaching position, And now he's coaching the team. 415 00:18:09,413 --> 00:18:11,933 Speaker 3: I mean whatever, anything's better than Brian Callahan. I was 416 00:18:12,013 --> 00:18:14,773 Speaker 3: really ready to go to just let the players coach themselves. 417 00:18:14,853 --> 00:18:18,052 Speaker 1: He was that bat are you would you now like 418 00:18:18,093 --> 00:18:19,813 Speaker 1: to see them lose every game and get the number 419 00:18:19,853 --> 00:18:21,453 Speaker 1: one pick? Or do you feel like we have our 420 00:18:21,533 --> 00:18:23,853 Speaker 1: quarterback so he might as well have the number two pick. 421 00:18:24,413 --> 00:18:26,973 Speaker 3: I wanted them to lose to Arizona. We've already messed 422 00:18:27,053 --> 00:18:30,173 Speaker 3: up tanking. We fired Callahan right before we wanted to 423 00:18:30,173 --> 00:18:33,773 Speaker 3: see him get his boat whooped on Sunday. Let this Sunday, 424 00:18:33,893 --> 00:18:36,013 Speaker 3: Rabel is going to get that. Whole stadium is going 425 00:18:36,093 --> 00:18:39,013 Speaker 3: to cheer the opposing team. That'll get ready to watch. 426 00:18:39,293 --> 00:18:42,733 Speaker 3: That'll happen. Absolutely, Titans fans love Rabel. He's going to 427 00:18:42,813 --> 00:18:47,213 Speaker 3: get a large applause. And if it had been Callahan 428 00:18:47,253 --> 00:18:48,693 Speaker 3: and said we were gotting the booze, I don't know 429 00:18:48,693 --> 00:18:50,453 Speaker 3: if they'll boo Mike McCoy. 430 00:18:50,493 --> 00:18:53,893 Speaker 2: Interesting. The timing on this just adds to it, all Right. 431 00:18:53,893 --> 00:18:58,013 Speaker 1: So, Billy, you were telling me that the NFL the 432 00:18:58,093 --> 00:19:02,213 Speaker 1: viewership numbers, right, So we're through six weeks of the season, 433 00:19:02,253 --> 00:19:05,013 Speaker 1: basically through a third of the season. The viewership numbers 434 00:19:05,013 --> 00:19:07,213 Speaker 1: to the NFL are like crazy, right. 435 00:19:07,133 --> 00:19:10,493 Speaker 4: Highest viewership at this point of the season in fifteen years. 436 00:19:10,653 --> 00:19:14,013 Speaker 4: NFL games are drawing on average eighteen point five million 437 00:19:14,093 --> 00:19:16,612 Speaker 4: viewers per game, and the Bucks forty nine ers game 438 00:19:16,693 --> 00:19:19,292 Speaker 4: last week was the highest. It averaged twenty seven million 439 00:19:19,333 --> 00:19:20,413 Speaker 4: viewers on CBS. 440 00:19:21,413 --> 00:19:24,373 Speaker 2: Twenty seven million viewer during that Bucks forty viewers game. Wow. 441 00:19:24,733 --> 00:19:27,853 Speaker 1: So they've changed the way they do these writings. Now 442 00:19:27,933 --> 00:19:29,773 Speaker 1: they it's something called big data. 443 00:19:32,053 --> 00:19:35,013 Speaker 2: What are you laughing at? I'm not a conspiracy there. 444 00:19:35,373 --> 00:19:37,653 Speaker 2: Big data. It's not like it's not like big pharma. 445 00:19:38,013 --> 00:19:38,853 Speaker 2: It's big data. 446 00:19:39,333 --> 00:19:43,813 Speaker 1: And I think the reason they're now including sports bars 447 00:19:44,653 --> 00:19:47,533 Speaker 1: and they're including they're trying to include like every way 448 00:19:47,613 --> 00:19:50,973 Speaker 1: people watch it. So all the numbers in a lot 449 00:19:50,973 --> 00:19:53,253 Speaker 1: of sports are bumped up a little bit because of 450 00:19:53,573 --> 00:19:58,332 Speaker 1: what they call big data. But still it's kind of 451 00:19:58,413 --> 00:20:04,653 Speaker 1: amazing how much bigger the NFL is than everything else, right, Like, 452 00:20:04,693 --> 00:20:07,813 Speaker 1: it's I mean, when you talk about one seven million 453 00:20:07,893 --> 00:20:11,893 Speaker 1: people watching a game, that is crazy. I mean, there's 454 00:20:11,933 --> 00:20:16,413 Speaker 1: what eight thousand watching these playoff baseball games. It's kind 455 00:20:16,413 --> 00:20:17,333 Speaker 1: of unbelievable. 456 00:20:17,933 --> 00:20:21,253 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, they're they're picking whatever day they want 457 00:20:21,293 --> 00:20:25,253 Speaker 3: and they're dominating the viewership whatever network they're on. Netflix. 458 00:20:25,293 --> 00:20:27,893 Speaker 3: Now they're going to other countries. It was London, now 459 00:20:27,893 --> 00:20:30,693 Speaker 3: it's Mexico City, Ireland. They'll sell out anywhere. 460 00:20:30,253 --> 00:20:32,373 Speaker 2: They want to go. Madrid, yeah next week. 461 00:20:32,733 --> 00:20:35,653 Speaker 3: It really is the way they've separated themselves in the 462 00:20:35,733 --> 00:20:37,493 Speaker 3: last couple decades from the other leagues. 463 00:20:37,493 --> 00:20:38,733 Speaker 2: They're winning across the board. 464 00:20:38,813 --> 00:20:40,812 Speaker 1: It also doesn't feel like and I know we're going 465 00:20:40,893 --> 00:20:43,973 Speaker 1: to sound like company shills here, but it also doesn't 466 00:20:44,053 --> 00:20:44,733 Speaker 1: feel like that. 467 00:20:44,853 --> 00:20:48,173 Speaker 2: It's like people don't think there's too much of it. 468 00:20:48,653 --> 00:20:51,973 Speaker 1: You don't hear anyone, Yeah, you don't hear anybody saying well, 469 00:20:52,013 --> 00:20:55,532 Speaker 1: because like I like hockey, there's too many games I 470 00:20:55,653 --> 00:20:59,573 Speaker 1: like basketball, there's too many games. I like baseball, there's 471 00:20:59,613 --> 00:21:02,373 Speaker 1: too many games. But nobody thinks that about the NFL. 472 00:21:02,493 --> 00:21:04,733 Speaker 2: Right, No, I want more of it. 473 00:21:04,813 --> 00:21:06,532 Speaker 3: And you know, if you're attached to team, you're never 474 00:21:06,613 --> 00:21:08,773 Speaker 3: gonna once a week is all you're gonna get, So 475 00:21:08,773 --> 00:21:11,853 Speaker 3: you're not gonna get overloaded of your own team. It's 476 00:21:11,893 --> 00:21:15,653 Speaker 3: to the point other leagues are changing their schedules because 477 00:21:15,653 --> 00:21:17,413 Speaker 3: they know if the NFL puts a day a game 478 00:21:17,453 --> 00:21:19,613 Speaker 3: on their day, it's over. NFL is getting attention. 479 00:21:19,373 --> 00:21:20,973 Speaker 2: Yes, no, they are. They are changing. 480 00:21:20,973 --> 00:21:23,853 Speaker 1: I mean they the NHL debuted their season at five 481 00:21:23,853 --> 00:21:27,293 Speaker 1: o'clock in the afternoon one day so that they wouldn't 482 00:21:27,333 --> 00:21:30,253 Speaker 1: have to uh, so they wouldn't have to go against 483 00:21:30,293 --> 00:21:30,773 Speaker 1: the NFL. 484 00:21:30,813 --> 00:21:31,933 Speaker 2: Those numbers are nuts. 485 00:21:32,773 --> 00:21:35,893 Speaker 1: My question for you, though, is do you like including 486 00:21:36,013 --> 00:21:40,573 Speaker 1: the sports bars in the data? Do you like big data? 487 00:21:40,693 --> 00:21:42,573 Speaker 2: I guess it should. A big data is a wrestler 488 00:21:42,693 --> 00:21:46,373 Speaker 2: that's really good on the minor circuit. Okay, data, you 489 00:21:46,453 --> 00:21:49,453 Speaker 2: gotta watch out here comes big data. Big data cool? Uh. 490 00:21:49,573 --> 00:21:52,213 Speaker 3: Yeah, it needs to be factored in somehow because I've 491 00:21:52,253 --> 00:21:53,973 Speaker 3: wondered when they're talking about ratings and you're at a 492 00:21:53,973 --> 00:21:54,893 Speaker 3: sports bar, there's. 493 00:21:54,773 --> 00:21:56,613 Speaker 2: Hundreds of people in there. Do you count them? And 494 00:21:56,733 --> 00:21:57,693 Speaker 2: needs to be factored in. 495 00:21:57,853 --> 00:22:01,133 Speaker 3: They're they're probably they're more excited about what's going on 496 00:22:01,173 --> 00:22:02,893 Speaker 3: in a lot of cases than the people watching at home. 497 00:22:03,053 --> 00:22:07,013 Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the teams you mentioned that got such 498 00:22:07,053 --> 00:22:08,332 Speaker 1: great ratings was the Bucks. 499 00:22:08,573 --> 00:22:10,373 Speaker 2: Yes, I love this story. So, first of all, for 500 00:22:10,413 --> 00:22:13,493 Speaker 2: Bill people who don't know Billy is a Bucks fan. 501 00:22:14,493 --> 00:22:18,813 Speaker 2: The Bucks were had their game last week and Teses Johnson, 502 00:22:18,813 --> 00:22:21,853 Speaker 2: who's a rookie, caught a touchdown pass and when the 503 00:22:21,893 --> 00:22:24,653 Speaker 2: game was over, he said in the locker room that 504 00:22:24,853 --> 00:22:29,333 Speaker 2: Tampa fans were chanting MVP during the game, and Tess 505 00:22:29,453 --> 00:22:33,333 Speaker 2: Johnson said he thought they were chanting for him as 506 00:22:33,413 --> 00:22:35,613 Speaker 2: the MVP, and he was very happy, and then he 507 00:22:35,693 --> 00:22:38,973 Speaker 2: realized it was for Baker Mayfield. This was great. He's 508 00:22:39,013 --> 00:22:40,533 Speaker 2: a rookie. What do you make of that? 509 00:22:40,813 --> 00:22:44,813 Speaker 1: He genuinely thought the crowd after his first touchdown pass 510 00:22:44,893 --> 00:22:48,573 Speaker 1: of his career, thought he was the MVP of the league. 511 00:22:48,613 --> 00:22:51,253 Speaker 3: Do you like that level of confidence? Yes, this is 512 00:22:51,293 --> 00:22:52,773 Speaker 3: one of those we're talking about. Were getting the mics 513 00:22:52,813 --> 00:22:54,493 Speaker 3: up now. There's a clip of him sitting on the 514 00:22:54,533 --> 00:22:57,853 Speaker 3: bench with Sterling Shepherd and He's just so confused while 515 00:22:57,853 --> 00:22:58,613 Speaker 3: they're shanting MVP. 516 00:22:58,813 --> 00:23:01,453 Speaker 2: He's like, but I haven't even done anything yet. I'm 517 00:23:01,453 --> 00:23:02,173 Speaker 2: a rookie. 518 00:23:02,573 --> 00:23:05,013 Speaker 3: And then Sterling Shepherd's like, wait a minute, you think 519 00:23:05,053 --> 00:23:07,053 Speaker 3: this is for you? And then he runs and tells 520 00:23:07,093 --> 00:23:09,973 Speaker 3: the other receivers. But it's hilarious, like it was a 521 00:23:09,973 --> 00:23:12,413 Speaker 3: great touchdown. He's like a forty five yard touchdown pass, 522 00:23:12,453 --> 00:23:13,572 Speaker 3: but that is pretty much. 523 00:23:13,413 --> 00:23:15,613 Speaker 4: All he's done this season. And he's like, wow, they're 524 00:23:15,693 --> 00:23:18,612 Speaker 4: cheering for me. It's very genuine. He definitely thought it 525 00:23:18,653 --> 00:23:19,733 Speaker 4: was him that they were chanting for. 526 00:23:20,453 --> 00:23:24,973 Speaker 1: That's sweet, But wouldn't you love him? Wouldn't you like 527 00:23:25,133 --> 00:23:29,613 Speaker 1: to live your life with a level of delusion where 528 00:23:29,653 --> 00:23:34,493 Speaker 1: you would believe after one touchdown everyone's chanting for you 529 00:23:34,533 --> 00:23:36,493 Speaker 1: for MVP, Like there's got. 530 00:23:36,253 --> 00:23:37,613 Speaker 2: To be some you know. 531 00:23:37,653 --> 00:23:40,653 Speaker 1: The people say, like you're the center of your own story. 532 00:23:41,253 --> 00:23:43,532 Speaker 1: That is the definition of being the center of your 533 00:23:43,533 --> 00:23:46,013 Speaker 1: own story, where you're like, well, everyone's chanting it has 534 00:23:46,093 --> 00:23:47,853 Speaker 1: to be for me. Who else could it be? 535 00:23:48,213 --> 00:23:50,973 Speaker 3: Seventh round pick rookie, He has six catches this season, 536 00:23:51,013 --> 00:23:53,213 Speaker 3: and he thinks the stadium is chanting MVP. 537 00:23:53,453 --> 00:23:55,572 Speaker 2: So well, the others I can get for ten Johns 538 00:23:55,613 --> 00:23:58,493 Speaker 2: an MVP right now. Let Ts have his moment, let 539 00:23:58,533 --> 00:23:59,092 Speaker 2: him dream. 540 00:23:59,253 --> 00:24:02,893 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was Baker Mayfield. I've been saying for 541 00:24:02,933 --> 00:24:06,653 Speaker 1: three weeks on this show. Baker Mayfield is the MVP. 542 00:24:06,893 --> 00:24:10,653 Speaker 1: He is now the second choice in the betting market 543 00:24:10,693 --> 00:24:14,253 Speaker 1: behind Mahomes. It's Mahomes and then Mayfield. Now I'm the 544 00:24:14,253 --> 00:24:17,013 Speaker 1: biggest Mahomes guy in the world, but I would pick 545 00:24:17,053 --> 00:24:19,092 Speaker 1: Mayfield over Mahomes right now, wouldn't you? 546 00:24:19,533 --> 00:24:20,133 Speaker 2: I would too. 547 00:24:20,413 --> 00:24:23,973 Speaker 3: Got one interception, like twelve or thirteen touchdowns, You've got 548 00:24:23,973 --> 00:24:26,173 Speaker 3: the comebacks, you got the swagger. 549 00:24:26,333 --> 00:24:29,613 Speaker 1: It's not gonna be Lamar No, and as of now, 550 00:24:29,653 --> 00:24:32,173 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be Josh Allen. I mean that could change, 551 00:24:32,213 --> 00:24:34,933 Speaker 1: but for right now, I wouldn't be Josh Allen. So 552 00:24:35,493 --> 00:24:39,493 Speaker 1: to me, if it's Baker or Mahomes, Mahomes is won 553 00:24:39,773 --> 00:24:41,613 Speaker 1: a couple maybe three in the past. 554 00:24:42,213 --> 00:24:44,053 Speaker 2: I think Baker should be the favorite. 555 00:24:44,493 --> 00:24:46,533 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would vote for him right now after last 556 00:24:46,533 --> 00:24:48,973 Speaker 3: week when he did that, which is a depleted roster, 557 00:24:49,013 --> 00:24:51,213 Speaker 3: he didn't have his running back, his receivers. You got 558 00:24:51,213 --> 00:24:53,493 Speaker 3: a guy named Tess Johnson coming in there making plays 559 00:24:53,493 --> 00:24:53,853 Speaker 3: for him. 560 00:24:54,013 --> 00:24:56,773 Speaker 2: Where would Daniel Jones be on your list. He's in. 561 00:24:57,413 --> 00:24:59,413 Speaker 2: He's got to be in the top five. 562 00:25:00,293 --> 00:25:03,773 Speaker 3: In the top five Baker until he cools off, it 563 00:25:03,853 --> 00:25:06,333 Speaker 3: has to be his I'm thinking, like last week, there's 564 00:25:06,373 --> 00:25:08,893 Speaker 3: like a third and fourteen, he gets that fifteen yard run. 565 00:25:09,093 --> 00:25:10,613 Speaker 3: I actually saw Todd Bowles today. 566 00:25:10,613 --> 00:25:13,453 Speaker 2: He was yelling get out and you're gonna get yourself killed, 567 00:25:13,693 --> 00:25:14,853 Speaker 2: and then he gets the first down. 568 00:25:14,893 --> 00:25:17,493 Speaker 3: I think that was one play before the Test Johnson touchdown. 569 00:25:17,893 --> 00:25:19,293 Speaker 3: He's just so fun to watch. 570 00:25:19,493 --> 00:25:21,572 Speaker 1: You think the only reason he's second in the odds 571 00:25:21,693 --> 00:25:26,173 Speaker 1: is because people think he's. 572 00:25:24,533 --> 00:25:27,213 Speaker 2: Like gonna not play that well all year, because I 573 00:25:27,213 --> 00:25:28,813 Speaker 2: think up to now he would win. 574 00:25:29,573 --> 00:25:32,373 Speaker 3: Yeah, and people probably wonder if the Bucks will level 575 00:25:32,373 --> 00:25:34,052 Speaker 3: out a little bit with their record in Mahomes is 576 00:25:34,053 --> 00:25:34,893 Speaker 3: only gonna keep winning. 577 00:25:35,013 --> 00:25:35,253 Speaker 2: Yeah. 578 00:25:35,373 --> 00:25:37,933 Speaker 4: To that point, Baker has more passing yards, touchdowns, and 579 00:25:38,013 --> 00:25:41,493 Speaker 4: less interceptions than Mahomes. But Patrick's getting Rashi Rice back 580 00:25:41,613 --> 00:25:44,213 Speaker 4: and this got maybe an easier schedule. 581 00:25:44,213 --> 00:25:44,572 Speaker 2: I don't know. 582 00:25:44,733 --> 00:25:47,572 Speaker 3: I liked Baker had a good quote this week. He 583 00:25:47,693 --> 00:25:50,213 Speaker 3: was like, I've been doing this exact same thing with 584 00:25:50,253 --> 00:25:52,613 Speaker 3: the same attitude since Cleveland. But in Cleveland I was 585 00:25:52,653 --> 00:25:55,093 Speaker 3: cocky and arrogant, and now I'm a dog and I 586 00:25:55,213 --> 00:25:57,893 Speaker 3: play with swagger like this is just what I've always done. 587 00:25:58,493 --> 00:26:00,893 Speaker 3: Cleveland was just really bad at using and evaluating me 588 00:26:00,933 --> 00:26:01,693 Speaker 3: and threw me away. 589 00:26:01,493 --> 00:26:06,093 Speaker 2: For Deshaun Watson. Got to frustrate. It's got to frustrate 590 00:26:06,813 --> 00:26:11,173 Speaker 2: Cleveland fans that this is happening, right, this was the 591 00:26:11,213 --> 00:26:12,973 Speaker 2: guy you had, and not just Cleveland. 592 00:26:13,013 --> 00:26:15,852 Speaker 1: I mean the Rams had him. Uh, the Panthers had him. 593 00:26:16,133 --> 00:26:18,533 Speaker 1: But still I think it's got to frustrate Cleveland people. 594 00:26:18,573 --> 00:26:20,853 Speaker 3: The most right I went from that was it went 595 00:26:20,853 --> 00:26:24,013 Speaker 3: from Baker to well we should go get to Sean Watson. 596 00:26:24,613 --> 00:26:27,333 Speaker 2: So and that move alone is like what are we doing? 597 00:26:27,453 --> 00:26:30,372 Speaker 3: And then now he's We're doing MVP talks while they 598 00:26:30,413 --> 00:26:33,053 Speaker 3: are on their forty second quarterback. Since Tim Couch, it's 599 00:26:33,053 --> 00:26:35,053 Speaker 3: got to be killing him inside. That was their draft pick. 600 00:26:36,293 --> 00:26:38,573 Speaker 2: It has to be and it has to be very 601 00:26:38,693 --> 00:26:42,933 Speaker 2: very Uh well, it's just sad. I mean they got 602 00:26:42,933 --> 00:26:43,653 Speaker 2: the number one pick. 603 00:26:43,693 --> 00:26:46,173 Speaker 3: They think he's the guy that I got crap another bus, 604 00:26:46,173 --> 00:26:47,733 Speaker 3: not our guy. And now he could go win the 605 00:26:47,813 --> 00:26:48,773 Speaker 3: MVP another team. 606 00:26:48,933 --> 00:26:50,453 Speaker 2: Well, I think he's gonna win it. I don't see 607 00:26:50,453 --> 00:26:53,373 Speaker 2: any reason. Now. Their schedule I believe gets is it 608 00:26:53,413 --> 00:26:54,493 Speaker 2: a little bit harder, a little bit. 609 00:26:54,893 --> 00:26:57,013 Speaker 3: I came remember the division, they said the Saints twice, 610 00:26:57,093 --> 00:26:58,853 Speaker 3: the Falcons twice, and the Panthers. 611 00:26:58,453 --> 00:27:01,092 Speaker 2: Twice, and they haven't played any of those games. They 612 00:27:01,093 --> 00:27:03,133 Speaker 2: played them at the Falconlanta. 613 00:27:02,533 --> 00:27:04,653 Speaker 1: So they have still Saints Twice's paid well, I mean, 614 00:27:04,653 --> 00:27:06,893 Speaker 1: he's gonna win it. What what are the It's like 615 00:27:06,893 --> 00:27:09,213 Speaker 1: plus three eighty or something right for. 616 00:27:09,653 --> 00:27:12,613 Speaker 4: Baker abb I'm not sure the number he's I think 617 00:27:12,653 --> 00:27:13,573 Speaker 4: it's plus three eighty. 618 00:27:13,613 --> 00:27:18,773 Speaker 1: To me, that's a really good bet right now, because I. 619 00:27:17,373 --> 00:27:20,493 Speaker 2: I mean, who are the lamar Is out? Alan is 620 00:27:20,533 --> 00:27:25,053 Speaker 2: close to out, Mahomes is Mahomes Matt Stafford's having a 621 00:27:25,093 --> 00:27:27,013 Speaker 2: pretty special year if they go on a big run. 622 00:27:27,133 --> 00:27:28,733 Speaker 1: I will note I was telling people to bet it 623 00:27:28,733 --> 00:27:30,933 Speaker 1: when it was like plus twelve hundred two weeks ago. 624 00:27:31,173 --> 00:27:33,733 Speaker 2: Of course I didn't bet it. 625 00:27:33,733 --> 00:27:36,693 Speaker 4: It's a Mahomes plus one seventy five, Baker and Josh 626 00:27:36,733 --> 00:27:39,653 Speaker 4: Allen at plus three hundred, and then Drake may Is 627 00:27:39,733 --> 00:27:41,653 Speaker 4: tied first third. 628 00:27:42,293 --> 00:27:42,693 Speaker 2: A good year. 629 00:27:43,053 --> 00:27:46,413 Speaker 1: Their schedule is so easy. We went over it last 630 00:27:46,453 --> 00:27:52,253 Speaker 1: week like their schedule is insanely easy. Now, Dylan Gabriel, 631 00:27:53,173 --> 00:27:55,813 Speaker 1: did you see his quote what do you saying this week? 632 00:27:56,493 --> 00:27:59,493 Speaker 1: I want to pull it up because you know, I 633 00:27:59,533 --> 00:28:01,653 Speaker 1: don't know when you were a kid, did you ever 634 00:28:01,813 --> 00:28:06,133 Speaker 1: did did your grandmother ever spank you? 635 00:28:06,813 --> 00:28:09,813 Speaker 3: Typically your grandmother, But yes I did get spanking because 636 00:28:09,813 --> 00:28:10,973 Speaker 3: it wasn't grandmother doing it. 637 00:28:10,973 --> 00:28:14,093 Speaker 1: Because Dylan Gabriel had a had a quote, I want 638 00:28:14,093 --> 00:28:16,613 Speaker 1: to read this to him. They asked him what it 639 00:28:16,773 --> 00:28:19,812 Speaker 1: was like to get hit so much by the Steelers 640 00:28:20,493 --> 00:28:24,013 Speaker 1: last week, and he said, quote, my mom used to 641 00:28:24,053 --> 00:28:26,893 Speaker 1: beat my blank when I was a kid, So I 642 00:28:26,893 --> 00:28:28,773 Speaker 1: don't think anything will be as bad as that. 643 00:28:30,413 --> 00:28:36,413 Speaker 2: Wow. Now I don't know. First of all, if i'm 644 00:28:36,413 --> 00:28:42,933 Speaker 2: his mom, I'm like, hey, you were another one. I'm 645 00:28:42,973 --> 00:28:48,853 Speaker 2: just kidding. Mom's got to be like con those were 646 00:28:48,893 --> 00:28:52,973 Speaker 2: out of love. Yes, this is not the same as TJ. Watt. 647 00:28:54,453 --> 00:28:56,453 Speaker 3: He's trying to rip your head off. I was trying 648 00:28:56,453 --> 00:29:00,293 Speaker 3: to giving you a love tag discipline. But he didn't 649 00:29:00,333 --> 00:29:03,853 Speaker 3: say spank. He used stronger words. I don't know what 650 00:29:03,853 --> 00:29:04,453 Speaker 3: do you think about? 651 00:29:04,453 --> 00:29:06,093 Speaker 2: This is a rookie's still getting used to the mic, 652 00:29:06,173 --> 00:29:09,933 Speaker 2: the phone. I've seen his mom, she said, she just 653 00:29:09,973 --> 00:29:13,773 Speaker 2: looks like a sweet person. I think we need an apology. 654 00:29:14,693 --> 00:29:17,293 Speaker 2: I think he should I think mom should have to go. Look, 655 00:29:18,333 --> 00:29:20,373 Speaker 2: it was, it was it was just meant to be nice. 656 00:29:20,373 --> 00:29:22,133 Speaker 2: He should have done the mind thing on that question 657 00:29:22,213 --> 00:29:26,413 Speaker 2: in the Cleveland locker room. Yeah, and now Chador was 658 00:29:26,573 --> 00:29:30,733 Speaker 2: named the backup. Okay, that's big. So uh do you expect? 659 00:29:31,253 --> 00:29:33,813 Speaker 2: I mean, dial Gabriel did not look good? He's got 660 00:29:33,813 --> 00:29:36,653 Speaker 2: it this this week they play the Dolphins. Okay, if he's. 661 00:29:36,533 --> 00:29:38,933 Speaker 3: Ever gonna have his hey, give me a chance game, 662 00:29:39,173 --> 00:29:40,373 Speaker 3: a little bit of a breakout. 663 00:29:40,853 --> 00:29:41,933 Speaker 2: This is an opportunity. 664 00:29:42,373 --> 00:29:46,813 Speaker 1: They're at home. Dolphins not good. Their defense is if 665 00:29:46,853 --> 00:29:49,693 Speaker 1: the Browns beat them, does Mike me Daniel get fired. 666 00:29:50,973 --> 00:29:55,373 Speaker 3: I was still watching the newswire right now, thought a 667 00:29:55,373 --> 00:29:58,853 Speaker 3: little bit of Yeah, he's gonna he's up against it already, 668 00:29:58,893 --> 00:30:02,173 Speaker 3: I think, even though they're probably phil go underdog at Cleveland. 669 00:30:02,173 --> 00:30:04,013 Speaker 3: But yeah, if you can't beat the Browns, are you 670 00:30:04,053 --> 00:30:04,453 Speaker 3: gonna beat? 671 00:30:04,693 --> 00:30:04,853 Speaker 2: Now? 672 00:30:04,893 --> 00:30:08,933 Speaker 1: The front the Browns four quarterback Joe Flacco is taking 673 00:30:08,973 --> 00:30:12,893 Speaker 1: the Bengals. They're playing Thursday night football against Aaron Rodgers 674 00:30:13,093 --> 00:30:16,453 Speaker 1: and the Steelers. It is being called the Icy Hot 675 00:30:16,493 --> 00:30:20,493 Speaker 1: Bowl since both quarterbacks are over forty. It is the 676 00:30:20,533 --> 00:30:25,253 Speaker 1: second oldest meeting of quarterbacks ever both guys say that 677 00:30:25,293 --> 00:30:27,493 Speaker 1: they would like the game to be called the Icy 678 00:30:27,533 --> 00:30:29,493 Speaker 1: Hot Bowl. So I'm going to go ahead and say it. 679 00:30:29,893 --> 00:30:33,253 Speaker 1: Do you like seeing two men over the age of 680 00:30:33,293 --> 00:30:37,853 Speaker 1: forty years old playing quarterback? They say sports is a 681 00:30:37,893 --> 00:30:40,933 Speaker 1: young man's game. Apparently not when you present it that way, 682 00:30:41,093 --> 00:30:43,893 Speaker 1: I would normally be like, no, I have no interest 683 00:30:43,893 --> 00:30:44,453 Speaker 1: in that, but I. 684 00:30:44,453 --> 00:30:46,733 Speaker 3: Kind of want to see another run of Flacco with 685 00:30:46,773 --> 00:30:47,893 Speaker 3: some pieces around him. 686 00:30:48,213 --> 00:30:50,653 Speaker 2: You know, he got that as that game went on. 687 00:30:51,213 --> 00:30:55,053 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase helped him, I know, but like, ultimately Jamar 688 00:30:55,173 --> 00:30:57,213 Speaker 1: Chase is good, So the goal is just to be 689 00:30:57,253 --> 00:30:57,773 Speaker 1: able to get. 690 00:30:57,693 --> 00:30:59,373 Speaker 3: Him the ball. That's what I mean. He finally has 691 00:30:59,453 --> 00:31:01,293 Speaker 3: weapons around him. In Cleveland, he didn't have any wee 692 00:31:01,533 --> 00:31:01,813 Speaker 3: and in. 693 00:31:01,773 --> 00:31:03,413 Speaker 2: The first half. I mean, he'd only been on the 694 00:31:03,413 --> 00:31:06,013 Speaker 2: team for four days, so you know, he probably didn't 695 00:31:06,013 --> 00:31:07,853 Speaker 2: even know the playbook. He's probably drawing it up in 696 00:31:07,853 --> 00:31:09,973 Speaker 2: his hand. You go left and then take a right. 697 00:31:11,653 --> 00:31:14,653 Speaker 2: That's a play by the way, it's like Thanksgiving, Yeah, 698 00:31:14,693 --> 00:31:18,533 Speaker 2: you got yeah to say about it, Go left, then 699 00:31:18,573 --> 00:31:22,853 Speaker 2: take a right. They're baffled. He draws that up and 700 00:31:22,893 --> 00:31:24,373 Speaker 2: then by the end of the game he was playing 701 00:31:24,413 --> 00:31:25,093 Speaker 2: really really well. 702 00:31:25,253 --> 00:31:27,773 Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw in the Bengals press conference to day. 703 00:31:27,813 --> 00:31:29,653 Speaker 3: You know, I'm just watching random team press conference? 704 00:31:29,733 --> 00:31:31,693 Speaker 2: When did you do that a lot? I did this week. 705 00:31:31,773 --> 00:31:33,213 Speaker 2: You don't need a long time. I never knew you 706 00:31:33,213 --> 00:31:35,293 Speaker 2: as a guy watching random in until this week. 707 00:31:35,333 --> 00:31:38,213 Speaker 3: I watched a couple of them. But they asked Joe Flacco. 708 00:31:38,293 --> 00:31:40,413 Speaker 3: They're like, what you know, you're still figuring this out. 709 00:31:40,453 --> 00:31:40,773 Speaker 2: You're new. 710 00:31:40,813 --> 00:31:43,013 Speaker 3: What if Jamar Chase comes up to you. It's like, 711 00:31:43,053 --> 00:31:44,693 Speaker 3: I know this is the play, but I'm gonna do 712 00:31:44,693 --> 00:31:47,053 Speaker 3: this instead. And Flaco was like, I'm gonna say, yeah, man, 713 00:31:47,173 --> 00:31:50,493 Speaker 3: sure let's do that. Like I'm just he's the star. 714 00:31:50,733 --> 00:31:53,213 Speaker 3: I'm here to get him the ball. If Chase says 715 00:31:53,253 --> 00:31:54,773 Speaker 3: he's doing something, I'm going with it. 716 00:31:54,973 --> 00:31:57,893 Speaker 1: I always wonder Jamar Chase gave a quote that was like, 717 00:31:58,613 --> 00:32:01,373 Speaker 1: it's been nice to have someone who can put the 718 00:32:01,413 --> 00:32:04,853 Speaker 1: ball in my hands. He said something like that, implying 719 00:32:04,933 --> 00:32:08,533 Speaker 1: that Jake Browning could not put the ball in his hand. 720 00:32:09,333 --> 00:32:11,453 Speaker 1: I always wonder what it's like when you say something 721 00:32:11,533 --> 00:32:14,093 Speaker 1: like that when then you see Jake Browning. 722 00:32:15,373 --> 00:32:18,213 Speaker 2: Because he's he's still in the locker. Presumably Jake has 723 00:32:18,253 --> 00:32:18,813 Speaker 2: his phone number. 724 00:32:19,373 --> 00:32:22,373 Speaker 1: I mean, Mike sit next to it. Do you just 725 00:32:22,493 --> 00:32:27,853 Speaker 1: go hey, man, like you have to say that right here. 726 00:32:27,893 --> 00:32:29,373 Speaker 3: Like Jake said, be like, dude, this was pretty close 727 00:32:29,373 --> 00:32:31,333 Speaker 3: to your hands A few of those times, like I'm trying. 728 00:32:32,493 --> 00:32:34,653 Speaker 2: I'm doing the best of tam and well, remember Jake 729 00:32:34,693 --> 00:32:36,533 Speaker 2: Browning was the guy who did the press conference who 730 00:32:36,533 --> 00:32:40,573 Speaker 2: He's like, I'm trying, man, I'm I want to be good. 731 00:32:42,853 --> 00:32:46,173 Speaker 2: Every night I look in the mirror and I tell 732 00:32:46,213 --> 00:32:48,573 Speaker 2: you to go left and then right, doing my best. 733 00:32:48,853 --> 00:32:51,133 Speaker 2: But here comes Joe Flacco. And if you're Jake Browning, 734 00:32:51,133 --> 00:32:52,933 Speaker 2: and it's got to be a humbling thing. You've been 735 00:32:52,933 --> 00:32:54,893 Speaker 2: playing football your whole life. You've been the backup on 736 00:32:54,933 --> 00:32:55,733 Speaker 2: this team for a while. 737 00:32:56,773 --> 00:33:00,813 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco comes from an AARP meeting and watching Matt 738 00:33:00,853 --> 00:33:03,373 Speaker 1: Locke to come on the field and be better than you. 739 00:33:04,133 --> 00:33:06,613 Speaker 2: That's got to make you a little Sad's got the 740 00:33:06,653 --> 00:33:10,813 Speaker 2: gray hair, gray not great gray hair. 741 00:33:11,093 --> 00:33:13,493 Speaker 3: He's I mean, he's just kind of a statue right there. 742 00:33:13,773 --> 00:33:16,293 Speaker 3: You know, he's taking talent all at every turn. He's 743 00:33:16,333 --> 00:33:18,933 Speaker 3: just old feeling it and you're Browning. Browning has a 744 00:33:18,973 --> 00:33:21,133 Speaker 3: little swagger about him. He didn't till losing the last 745 00:33:21,173 --> 00:33:22,613 Speaker 3: few games. It looks like he's losing it. 746 00:33:23,013 --> 00:33:25,693 Speaker 2: Got the got the model girlfriend that goes viral. He's young. 747 00:33:25,773 --> 00:33:27,853 Speaker 3: He thinks he's just gonna step in and be Burrow 748 00:33:27,933 --> 00:33:31,933 Speaker 3: two point zero Texas woman. Flaco can't do that. 749 00:33:32,093 --> 00:33:33,573 Speaker 2: Then he's looking at Flacco, who's own. 750 00:33:34,053 --> 00:33:36,853 Speaker 3: Flacco's own kids are wearing rival teams jerseys and little 751 00:33:36,853 --> 00:33:37,413 Speaker 3: players on it. 752 00:33:37,453 --> 00:33:40,333 Speaker 1: And that's the guy that would be tough if he 753 00:33:40,653 --> 00:33:43,533 Speaker 1: Flacco takes. I mean, she already likes back up quarterbacks. 754 00:33:44,093 --> 00:33:49,973 Speaker 1: Flacco is the Flacco and Gardner minshew, that's that Cooper rush, 755 00:33:50,373 --> 00:33:51,493 Speaker 1: That's that's her type. 756 00:33:52,013 --> 00:33:53,893 Speaker 3: This has to be one of those moments for Browning 757 00:33:53,893 --> 00:33:56,093 Speaker 3: where it's like, you know this, I thought I was 758 00:33:56,093 --> 00:33:57,213 Speaker 3: gonna this was my moment. 759 00:33:57,293 --> 00:33:59,613 Speaker 2: I think I'm learning. Maybe it's time to seek some honey. 760 00:33:59,653 --> 00:34:04,893 Speaker 2: Do you winter grad school applications? We might see that. 761 00:34:19,292 --> 00:34:24,613 Speaker 1: The Jacksonville Jaguars offense coordinator says they will work during 762 00:34:24,652 --> 00:34:28,252 Speaker 1: this off week to give Travis Hunter a greater role 763 00:34:28,292 --> 00:34:32,772 Speaker 1: on offense for a team that's good, and Jacksonville's pretty good. 764 00:34:32,812 --> 00:34:35,013 Speaker 1: Don't you feel like they worry too much about what 765 00:34:35,252 --> 00:34:36,093 Speaker 1: Travis Hunt like? 766 00:34:37,332 --> 00:34:37,573 Speaker 2: Is it? 767 00:34:37,613 --> 00:34:41,493 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like we hear specific Travis Hunter 768 00:34:42,093 --> 00:34:44,852 Speaker 1: things every week they're good. Why do they do this? 769 00:34:45,613 --> 00:34:45,852 Speaker 2: Yeah? 770 00:34:45,893 --> 00:34:47,772 Speaker 3: I guess they traded to get him, and he's your 771 00:34:47,772 --> 00:34:50,412 Speaker 3: big asset. But you're what four and two? Four and 772 00:34:50,493 --> 00:34:52,332 Speaker 3: two got a lot of good things going for you. 773 00:34:52,933 --> 00:34:54,692 Speaker 3: It seems they are focusing on that a lot. He's 774 00:34:54,692 --> 00:34:56,652 Speaker 3: made a few big catches, but then there's some other 775 00:34:56,692 --> 00:34:59,973 Speaker 3: games where he's disappointing. It seems like he'd just be 776 00:35:00,252 --> 00:35:02,252 Speaker 3: like any other who's. 777 00:35:01,933 --> 00:35:05,532 Speaker 2: More disappointed him or Bronny. Are you saying this because 778 00:35:05,533 --> 00:35:08,412 Speaker 2: Bronni's bigges fan is in the room. Yeah, Mario, who's 779 00:35:08,413 --> 00:35:11,292 Speaker 2: sitting over here shaking his head, Oh loves Bryce. You 780 00:35:11,332 --> 00:35:13,332 Speaker 2: see just a little side note. 781 00:35:13,413 --> 00:35:18,013 Speaker 1: In a preseason game last night, Bronnie was minus fourteen 782 00:35:18,372 --> 00:35:21,172 Speaker 1: plus minus in a game the Lakers led by twenty. 783 00:35:22,812 --> 00:35:26,732 Speaker 2: He was thirty four points worse. I know it's a 784 00:35:26,772 --> 00:35:30,892 Speaker 2: preseason game, but I'm just saying, I take Travis Hunter there, 785 00:35:30,933 --> 00:35:32,373 Speaker 2: you take Travis Hunter over Bronny. 786 00:35:32,493 --> 00:35:35,572 Speaker 3: Yeah, they got saw a Skip Bayless went on some rand. 787 00:35:35,852 --> 00:35:38,572 Speaker 3: I think Travis Hunter got batized up before the game. 788 00:35:38,652 --> 00:35:40,772 Speaker 2: He did. Yeah, that makes Skip Bayless man. Well. 789 00:35:40,772 --> 00:35:43,332 Speaker 3: Skip Bayless has like a thirty minute video talking about 790 00:35:43,413 --> 00:35:45,852 Speaker 3: him getting baptized. I think it's positive, but he like 791 00:35:45,893 --> 00:35:47,973 Speaker 3: does a whole show on the baptism or something. I 792 00:35:48,093 --> 00:35:48,733 Speaker 3: saw it online. 793 00:35:48,933 --> 00:35:50,212 Speaker 2: What's there to say? I don't know. 794 00:35:50,292 --> 00:35:53,172 Speaker 3: That's why my I can't commit thirty minutes. Skip bellis 795 00:35:53,212 --> 00:35:56,013 Speaker 3: Skip Bayless has ran here, but he's felt very strongly 796 00:35:56,013 --> 00:35:58,292 Speaker 3: about it, but very very good on Travis Hunter. He 797 00:35:58,332 --> 00:36:00,172 Speaker 3: had the moment last week where he brought the woman 798 00:36:00,212 --> 00:36:01,533 Speaker 3: he met on the plane as his. 799 00:36:01,973 --> 00:36:03,732 Speaker 2: That was nice. Seems like a great kid. What was 800 00:36:03,732 --> 00:36:06,013 Speaker 2: the baptism was like? Was it the morning of the 801 00:36:06,292 --> 00:36:08,172 Speaker 2: game of the team the game? 802 00:36:08,812 --> 00:36:12,613 Speaker 4: Bayless called Travis Hunter checked out mentally because. 803 00:36:12,292 --> 00:36:14,812 Speaker 2: He got baptized. It wasn't possible. I couldn't give it there. 804 00:36:15,053 --> 00:36:18,333 Speaker 4: Deciding to get baptized the morning of a team game 805 00:36:19,453 --> 00:36:19,852 Speaker 4: for me. 806 00:36:19,893 --> 00:36:22,732 Speaker 1: For me to suggest that there are things more important 807 00:36:22,732 --> 00:36:26,053 Speaker 1: than the Bucks Seahawks game in the regular season. But 808 00:36:26,093 --> 00:36:28,572 Speaker 1: I don't think that would mean he was mentally checked out. 809 00:36:29,013 --> 00:36:35,412 Speaker 1: I do ever think that there's too much Travis Hunter distraction. 810 00:36:35,852 --> 00:36:37,492 Speaker 1: I mean he had a big drop at the end 811 00:36:37,493 --> 00:36:39,933 Speaker 1: of that game against the Seahawks, like they were the 812 00:36:40,172 --> 00:36:44,093 Speaker 1: Jaguars were driving and it went off his hands. This 813 00:36:44,212 --> 00:36:46,252 Speaker 1: continues my belief that he should have just picked one 814 00:36:46,252 --> 00:36:48,692 Speaker 1: side of the ball and played. I think there's way 815 00:36:48,732 --> 00:36:52,212 Speaker 1: too much focus on getting him involved rather than just 816 00:36:52,252 --> 00:36:52,973 Speaker 1: winning games. 817 00:36:53,212 --> 00:36:55,172 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's the physical angle where you wish you 818 00:36:55,172 --> 00:36:57,493 Speaker 2: can control a little bit with his snaps, But he 819 00:36:57,493 --> 00:36:59,732 Speaker 2: also has to memorize what he has to do at 820 00:36:59,812 --> 00:37:02,133 Speaker 2: two different positions, and that's got to take a lot 821 00:37:02,172 --> 00:37:04,133 Speaker 2: out of him also in addition to having to play 822 00:37:04,172 --> 00:37:07,853 Speaker 2: both ways. So it's too much task of an NFL player. 823 00:37:07,893 --> 00:37:09,013 Speaker 2: It's neat that they're trying it. 824 00:37:09,493 --> 00:37:12,412 Speaker 3: I enjoy watching it, but I don't think it's gonna 825 00:37:12,413 --> 00:37:13,492 Speaker 3: be best for him long term. 826 00:37:13,573 --> 00:37:17,812 Speaker 1: Then ultimately they probably should not have traded up to 827 00:37:17,812 --> 00:37:18,252 Speaker 1: get him. 828 00:37:18,372 --> 00:37:20,613 Speaker 3: That's a little that's silly at the time. Even if 829 00:37:20,652 --> 00:37:21,892 Speaker 3: he does turn out and play both ways. 830 00:37:21,933 --> 00:37:25,253 Speaker 1: Although that trade, if the Jaguars stay good, they won't 831 00:37:25,252 --> 00:37:28,332 Speaker 1: lose as high a pick, you know, the Browns. The 832 00:37:28,413 --> 00:37:31,013 Speaker 1: Jaguars are bad. The Browns could have gotten like a 833 00:37:31,093 --> 00:37:34,493 Speaker 1: top five pick. It'll probably be a little bit lower. 834 00:37:34,493 --> 00:37:36,972 Speaker 1: Speaking of teams that are not great, Will the Jets 835 00:37:37,053 --> 00:37:37,532 Speaker 1: win a game? 836 00:37:38,212 --> 00:37:40,412 Speaker 2: I asked that last week and you said yes. But 837 00:37:40,533 --> 00:37:44,013 Speaker 2: now you got Garrett Wilson's out for a little while. Oh, 838 00:37:44,053 --> 00:37:45,213 Speaker 2: they're fighting with his coach. 839 00:37:46,053 --> 00:37:48,333 Speaker 3: I saw Justin Fields has like some of the worst 840 00:37:48,332 --> 00:37:53,292 Speaker 3: stats in many years. Their schedule helps him. I'll say 841 00:37:53,292 --> 00:37:56,692 Speaker 3: they get one, but I think they're gonna end up 842 00:37:56,732 --> 00:37:58,493 Speaker 3: taking the number one pick for my Titans. 843 00:37:58,573 --> 00:38:04,652 Speaker 2: I Justin Fields is is just awful and it's not 844 00:38:04,772 --> 00:38:05,652 Speaker 2: totally his fault. 845 00:38:05,772 --> 00:38:08,413 Speaker 1: His off defensive line has been bad. But I watched 846 00:38:08,493 --> 00:38:11,013 Speaker 1: him a lot of years in Chicago and he seems 847 00:38:11,053 --> 00:38:13,292 Speaker 1: like a nice fella. Which, by the way, anytime you 848 00:38:13,332 --> 00:38:15,332 Speaker 1: start a sentence with he seems like a nice fell 849 00:38:15,413 --> 00:38:18,093 Speaker 1: whatever comes next is not good. 850 00:38:18,413 --> 00:38:19,933 Speaker 2: You know nobody ever. 851 00:38:20,372 --> 00:38:22,572 Speaker 1: So it's not like people say about Michael Jordan, he's 852 00:38:22,613 --> 00:38:24,973 Speaker 1: a nice fella, but then you just go ahead and 853 00:38:25,013 --> 00:38:26,412 Speaker 1: talk about some good So when he say he's a 854 00:38:26,493 --> 00:38:28,452 Speaker 1: nice fellow, that what's next is not going to be good. 855 00:38:29,453 --> 00:38:32,133 Speaker 2: But I think there's no reason to play Justin Fields. 856 00:38:32,613 --> 00:38:36,412 Speaker 2: They should put someone young, someone with potentially a future there, 857 00:38:36,732 --> 00:38:38,732 Speaker 2: or you just lose every game and say we're gonna 858 00:38:38,732 --> 00:38:40,613 Speaker 2: get the number one pick in a year where it's 859 00:38:40,652 --> 00:38:42,292 Speaker 2: not clear who the best quarterback is. 860 00:38:42,812 --> 00:38:44,892 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Justin Phils was supposed to do their 861 00:38:44,933 --> 00:38:46,812 Speaker 3: move like let's try this young guy and see what 862 00:38:46,852 --> 00:38:48,333 Speaker 3: he has even though it didn't work in Chicago? 863 00:38:48,413 --> 00:38:50,853 Speaker 2: How long did you get to be young? Maybe a reset? Yeah? 864 00:38:51,812 --> 00:38:54,933 Speaker 2: What is he like? Twenty five? Twenty six? Now, no, he's. 865 00:38:54,812 --> 00:38:59,172 Speaker 1: Older than that, just because like twenty how is Tyron 866 00:38:59,212 --> 00:39:00,133 Speaker 1: Taylor still there? 867 00:39:01,093 --> 00:39:04,732 Speaker 2: Tyron Taylor has been there. Tyron Taylor has been with 868 00:39:04,852 --> 00:39:10,572 Speaker 2: the Jets fifty years. Justin Fields is twenty six. Man, 869 00:39:10,652 --> 00:39:12,412 Speaker 2: I thought he was older than that. Yeah, I mean 870 00:39:12,453 --> 00:39:15,012 Speaker 2: he was your your future just a couple of years ago. 871 00:39:15,772 --> 00:39:17,973 Speaker 1: Yeah, well longer than that. This was like four or 872 00:39:17,973 --> 00:39:21,692 Speaker 1: five years ago. We mean the Bears. Yeah, oh, I 873 00:39:21,692 --> 00:39:23,972 Speaker 1: thought you were talking about something else. Know, I'm saying 874 00:39:23,973 --> 00:39:26,372 Speaker 1: that he was the young because like four years a 875 00:39:26,372 --> 00:39:27,892 Speaker 1: couture was not that long ago. 876 00:39:28,013 --> 00:39:29,452 Speaker 2: Now this is this is a while. This is like 877 00:39:29,453 --> 00:39:30,292 Speaker 2: four or five years ago. 878 00:39:30,372 --> 00:39:34,732 Speaker 1: I met a woman and and like we were talking 879 00:39:34,852 --> 00:39:36,892 Speaker 1: and I said to her, you know how you'll go 880 00:39:36,933 --> 00:39:38,732 Speaker 1: be like, oh, when's your last relationship? 881 00:39:39,133 --> 00:39:41,372 Speaker 2: And I was like and she was like, uh, I 882 00:39:41,413 --> 00:39:42,972 Speaker 2: was like, oh yeah, when's the last? Right she goes. 883 00:39:43,013 --> 00:39:44,292 Speaker 2: She goes, well, I went out on some dates with 884 00:39:44,372 --> 00:39:49,292 Speaker 2: Tyrod Taylor, and I was like, well, you and I'll 885 00:39:49,292 --> 00:39:53,772 Speaker 2: probably have a lot in common because I mean Tyrod 886 00:39:53,812 --> 00:39:55,732 Speaker 2: and I very similar. 887 00:39:55,852 --> 00:39:58,973 Speaker 3: Right, Well, if I think about his career history, you 888 00:39:59,013 --> 00:40:00,652 Speaker 3: both like to travel the United States. 889 00:40:00,812 --> 00:40:03,533 Speaker 2: He's played out everywhere. You like to see new cities. 890 00:40:03,573 --> 00:40:04,533 Speaker 2: He likes new cities. 891 00:40:04,973 --> 00:40:06,772 Speaker 1: Yeah, and she at the time was like ten years 892 00:40:06,772 --> 00:40:11,212 Speaker 1: older than him. So Tyrod, he'd be my quarterback. Actually, 893 00:40:11,332 --> 00:40:13,412 Speaker 1: if I was the Jets, why not. I just don't 894 00:40:13,453 --> 00:40:13,933 Speaker 1: see any. 895 00:40:13,812 --> 00:40:15,573 Speaker 2: Reason to keep throwing justin fields out there. 896 00:40:15,652 --> 00:40:18,533 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, he's one to go young. If he's the 897 00:40:18,573 --> 00:40:20,732 Speaker 3: only backup, I don't think that's going young. He's got 898 00:40:20,772 --> 00:40:22,412 Speaker 3: to be up there pushing the Flacco. 899 00:40:22,172 --> 00:40:24,292 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers range. As long as he's been in the link. 900 00:40:24,413 --> 00:40:28,133 Speaker 1: I think they are on alert for not winning any games. 901 00:40:28,652 --> 00:40:31,133 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and say I think they are 902 00:40:31,252 --> 00:40:34,452 Speaker 1: on alert. Now we have a new segment. Would you 903 00:40:34,533 --> 00:40:35,333 Speaker 1: like to know the new segment. 904 00:40:35,332 --> 00:40:37,493 Speaker 2: I'm excited about us. So we have a new segment. 905 00:40:38,332 --> 00:40:42,933 Speaker 1: We continue to add advertisers and excitement here to NFL 906 00:40:42,973 --> 00:40:48,413 Speaker 1: cover zero. This is known as the Victory Bundle, presented 907 00:40:48,413 --> 00:40:53,493 Speaker 1: by Liberty Mutual. It is time so every show I 908 00:40:53,652 --> 00:40:54,613 Speaker 1: will get to say this. 909 00:40:54,973 --> 00:40:55,533 Speaker 2: Are you ready? 910 00:40:57,053 --> 00:41:00,172 Speaker 1: You'll get to privilege. It's time for the Victory Bundle 911 00:41:00,533 --> 00:41:04,013 Speaker 1: presented by Liberty Mutual. And the victory Bundle is you 912 00:41:04,053 --> 00:41:08,093 Speaker 1: and I will pick three three games, uh, and we'll 913 00:41:08,093 --> 00:41:10,652 Speaker 1: pick who wins and we will give you our victory bundle. 914 00:41:10,692 --> 00:41:12,292 Speaker 1: Now we're trying. We're going to try to pick things 915 00:41:12,332 --> 00:41:15,292 Speaker 1: where we agree so that we can be like we 916 00:41:15,292 --> 00:41:16,373 Speaker 1: can bundle together. 917 00:41:16,812 --> 00:41:17,493 Speaker 2: Are you ready? 918 00:41:17,692 --> 00:41:20,532 Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna pick three games randomly and then 919 00:41:20,613 --> 00:41:25,493 Speaker 1: we'll pick the winners in London nine thirty am Rams 920 00:41:25,573 --> 00:41:28,252 Speaker 1: Jaguars two four and two teams, maybe the best game 921 00:41:28,372 --> 00:41:31,013 Speaker 1: London's gotten in a long time. As part of the 922 00:41:31,053 --> 00:41:34,773 Speaker 1: Liberty Mutual Victory Bundle. Who do we take in London? 923 00:41:36,053 --> 00:41:38,412 Speaker 3: This is a tough one because this is the Jaguars 924 00:41:38,533 --> 00:41:41,692 Speaker 3: home field at Wimbley. Was it thirteen straight years they've 925 00:41:41,732 --> 00:41:42,252 Speaker 3: played there? 926 00:41:42,372 --> 00:41:42,612 Speaker 2: Yes? 927 00:41:42,732 --> 00:41:45,692 Speaker 3: But Billy, unless there's been recent news pook Is there 928 00:41:45,732 --> 00:41:49,052 Speaker 3: anything on Pooka Nakua right now? Because he's he could 929 00:41:49,093 --> 00:41:52,533 Speaker 3: be out questionable. So I'm leaning Jacksonville depending on Poka 930 00:41:52,613 --> 00:41:53,692 Speaker 3: did not practice today? 931 00:41:55,212 --> 00:41:56,573 Speaker 2: All right, I'll go with you. 932 00:41:56,933 --> 00:41:58,772 Speaker 1: The Rams are a three and a half point favorite, though, 933 00:41:59,252 --> 00:42:00,692 Speaker 1: so we'll take it against the spread. 934 00:42:00,772 --> 00:42:01,292 Speaker 2: There we go. 935 00:42:01,533 --> 00:42:04,573 Speaker 1: Our victory bundle against the spread is, if you want victory, 936 00:42:04,652 --> 00:42:08,252 Speaker 1: take the Jags on their home field. Uh in Uh there, 937 00:42:08,252 --> 00:42:11,973 Speaker 1: I think this one's at Wimbley. I'm gonna take the Jags. 938 00:42:12,212 --> 00:42:13,652 Speaker 1: That's part one of the victory bundle. 939 00:42:13,732 --> 00:42:13,972 Speaker 2: Now. 940 00:42:14,692 --> 00:42:17,692 Speaker 1: Can I like this one a lot? The Panthers and 941 00:42:17,732 --> 00:42:20,932 Speaker 1: the Jets. Panthers on the road to the Jets. 942 00:42:21,332 --> 00:42:23,332 Speaker 2: What are you laughing at? Just the fact that this 943 00:42:23,413 --> 00:42:24,493 Speaker 2: is a mashup. 944 00:42:24,893 --> 00:42:27,372 Speaker 1: Panthers and the Jets. Panthers are only a one and 945 00:42:27,453 --> 00:42:31,692 Speaker 1: a half point favorite against the Jets. I'm taking the 946 00:42:31,692 --> 00:42:34,372 Speaker 1: Panthers as part of my victory bundle. Are you with me? 947 00:42:34,692 --> 00:42:38,253 Speaker 2: Absolutely? We just talked about the train wreck the Jets 948 00:42:38,292 --> 00:42:42,732 Speaker 2: are right now, the star receivers out Panthers have have 949 00:42:42,812 --> 00:42:44,492 Speaker 2: they won two in a row? Yeah, they won two 950 00:42:44,533 --> 00:42:48,053 Speaker 2: in a row. Just keep riding this wave, all right? 951 00:42:48,093 --> 00:42:51,292 Speaker 1: So you're you're gonna ride on the the victory bundle, right? 952 00:42:51,292 --> 00:42:55,172 Speaker 1: And then finally I really like, uh, it's the Eagles 953 00:42:55,212 --> 00:42:57,933 Speaker 1: at the Vikings. The Eagles only a one and a 954 00:42:57,973 --> 00:43:00,012 Speaker 1: half point favorite, and we don't even know for sure 955 00:43:00,013 --> 00:43:03,692 Speaker 1: who's gonna play quarterback for Minnesota. I love the Eagles 956 00:43:03,732 --> 00:43:05,772 Speaker 1: here I'm gonna take the Eagles on there. I'll only 957 00:43:05,812 --> 00:43:06,452 Speaker 1: get one and a half. 958 00:43:06,493 --> 00:43:08,892 Speaker 2: If you set this spread two weeks ago, it's gonna 959 00:43:08,933 --> 00:43:11,292 Speaker 2: be six and a half. So give me the Eagles 960 00:43:11,332 --> 00:43:14,612 Speaker 2: to join. I like that here too. I will say, though, 961 00:43:15,292 --> 00:43:17,892 Speaker 2: if their offense doesn't click here in a little bit, 962 00:43:18,413 --> 00:43:21,573 Speaker 2: I'm gonna start selling the Eagles. But I'm gonna give 963 00:43:21,613 --> 00:43:22,333 Speaker 2: him a little longer. 964 00:43:22,573 --> 00:43:24,732 Speaker 3: But I think they are gonna have some serious concerns 965 00:43:24,772 --> 00:43:26,652 Speaker 3: if they don't fix that soon. Their run game and 966 00:43:26,652 --> 00:43:29,172 Speaker 3: half is dominant. Was a year ago we got aj 967 00:43:29,332 --> 00:43:32,013 Speaker 3: brown poutin. This could be a long term issue if 968 00:43:32,013 --> 00:43:33,012 Speaker 3: it doesn't get cleaned up soon. 969 00:43:33,093 --> 00:43:37,332 Speaker 1: So we're going all animals for our victory Bundle. It 970 00:43:37,453 --> 00:43:42,772 Speaker 1: is the Animal Victory Bundle. Give us the Jaguars, the Panthers, 971 00:43:43,252 --> 00:43:45,933 Speaker 1: and the Eagles. That is your victory of a bundle 972 00:43:45,933 --> 00:43:48,852 Speaker 1: presented by Liberty Mutual. You can start your quote at 973 00:43:48,893 --> 00:43:53,452 Speaker 1: Libertymutual dot com. All right now, time for our Survivor 974 00:43:53,812 --> 00:43:57,573 Speaker 1: League and our and well, first of all, our Survivor 975 00:43:57,652 --> 00:43:59,652 Speaker 1: League and our touchdown picks. Now, Drew is not in 976 00:43:59,732 --> 00:44:04,972 Speaker 1: the Survivor League because he did not survive. So it's 977 00:44:05,053 --> 00:44:07,972 Speaker 1: me and you Billy. It looks like do I get 978 00:44:07,973 --> 00:44:09,812 Speaker 1: to pick first this week on the Survivor League? 979 00:44:09,812 --> 00:44:10,252 Speaker 2: I think I do. 980 00:44:10,332 --> 00:44:13,692 Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, So it is the I've taken the Packers, 981 00:44:13,893 --> 00:44:18,413 Speaker 1: the Broncos, the Ravens, and the Lions. So Packers, Broncos, 982 00:44:18,533 --> 00:44:21,372 Speaker 1: Ravens and Lions and so to try. I've sitting here 983 00:44:21,372 --> 00:44:24,732 Speaker 1: looking this week, and you know there's a couple of 984 00:44:24,772 --> 00:44:27,692 Speaker 1: different choices. The biggest spread is Chiefs Raiders. But I've 985 00:44:27,772 --> 00:44:32,172 Speaker 1: kind of learned over the years, don't pick that game, right. 986 00:44:32,252 --> 00:44:34,812 Speaker 1: I mean, the Chiefs and the Raiders have won that 987 00:44:34,893 --> 00:44:39,452 Speaker 1: game surprisingly quite a bit, so if you don't take 988 00:44:39,493 --> 00:44:42,332 Speaker 1: that one, it becomes a little difficult. I'm gonna take 989 00:44:42,372 --> 00:44:46,572 Speaker 1: the New England Patriots to beat your Titans on the road. 990 00:44:46,692 --> 00:44:47,292 Speaker 2: What a lock. 991 00:44:47,973 --> 00:44:51,613 Speaker 1: So I'm going with the Patriots. They will join That 992 00:44:51,732 --> 00:44:53,452 Speaker 1: is my pick for the week in the Survivor League. 993 00:44:53,453 --> 00:44:56,613 Speaker 1: I'll take the Patriots. Now, Bill, you've taken the Jaguars, 994 00:44:57,013 --> 00:44:59,333 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, the Bills, and the Colts. 995 00:44:59,692 --> 00:45:00,692 Speaker 2: Who would you like this week? 996 00:45:00,772 --> 00:45:03,133 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I love your pick of the Patriots. 997 00:45:03,133 --> 00:45:05,573 Speaker 4: That's a home game for them in Tennessee. With Frabel 998 00:45:05,613 --> 00:45:08,133 Speaker 4: coming back. I've flipped on this pick a couple of times, 999 00:45:08,453 --> 00:45:11,413 Speaker 4: and you mentioned it. I'm taking the Chiefs versus the Raiders. 1000 00:45:11,613 --> 00:45:14,973 Speaker 4: I know there's that stat of I guess Las Vegas 1001 00:45:14,973 --> 00:45:18,173 Speaker 4: now not Oakland playing Kansas City close in the past. 1002 00:45:18,252 --> 00:45:20,453 Speaker 4: It just seems like Kansas City has hit their stride 1003 00:45:20,493 --> 00:45:21,812 Speaker 4: with Rashid Rice coming back. 1004 00:45:22,172 --> 00:45:23,172 Speaker 2: Give me Kansas City in this. 1005 00:45:23,332 --> 00:45:26,133 Speaker 1: So we've now hit five straight weeks or we have 1006 00:45:26,172 --> 00:45:27,973 Speaker 1: a chance to hit five weeks. I will take the 1007 00:45:28,013 --> 00:45:31,613 Speaker 1: Patriots on the road against the Titans, and you will 1008 00:45:31,652 --> 00:45:35,613 Speaker 1: take the Chiefs at home against the Raiders. We have 1009 00:45:35,652 --> 00:45:38,972 Speaker 1: a chance to go to week six here of the 1010 00:45:40,812 --> 00:45:43,812 Speaker 1: of the Survivor League, Drew you unfortunately don't get to participate. 1011 00:45:43,933 --> 00:45:45,452 Speaker 1: Now it's time for the touchdowns. 1012 00:45:46,212 --> 00:45:50,772 Speaker 2: Last week I got one with with Daniel Jones and 1013 00:45:50,812 --> 00:45:52,893 Speaker 2: then no one else did. 1014 00:45:53,372 --> 00:45:56,052 Speaker 1: So Drew went first last week, so he's he will 1015 00:45:56,053 --> 00:45:59,253 Speaker 1: not go this week. So Billy, you get to go first? 1016 00:45:59,453 --> 00:46:02,573 Speaker 1: Who is your or no, wait a minute, yes you do. 1017 00:46:02,852 --> 00:46:04,212 Speaker 1: You get to go first. Who would you like? 1018 00:46:05,372 --> 00:46:08,333 Speaker 4: I am picking a guy that is taking the league 1019 00:46:08,413 --> 00:46:12,812 Speaker 4: by storm. Give me is Cam Scatibo to score a 1020 00:46:12,852 --> 00:46:15,772 Speaker 4: touchdown against the Broncos. I mean, how many touchdowns did 1021 00:46:15,772 --> 00:46:19,212 Speaker 4: he score in the last game was three against against 1022 00:46:19,212 --> 00:46:22,973 Speaker 4: the Eagles. I know Denver maybe have a decent run defense, 1023 00:46:23,053 --> 00:46:26,452 Speaker 4: but Cam is going to do it very well. For 1024 00:46:26,493 --> 00:46:28,852 Speaker 4: only a few years, he'll do it very well. 1025 00:46:28,893 --> 00:46:29,772 Speaker 2: We're gonna do it very well. 1026 00:46:29,812 --> 00:46:34,292 Speaker 1: You're taking the running back Scatabo okay, which means I 1027 00:46:34,332 --> 00:46:36,892 Speaker 1: can take I'm next. I can take either a quarterback 1028 00:46:37,093 --> 00:46:39,772 Speaker 1: or a wide receiver. I've taken three quarterbacks, so I 1029 00:46:39,772 --> 00:46:42,613 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna have to to lay off the quarterback. 1030 00:46:42,652 --> 00:46:44,652 Speaker 1: So I'm going to take a wide receiver. I'm going 1031 00:46:44,732 --> 00:46:49,053 Speaker 1: to take Xavier Worthy against with your Chiefs against the Raiders. 1032 00:46:49,573 --> 00:46:52,493 Speaker 1: I think he gets a touchdown, so I will go 1033 00:46:52,573 --> 00:46:55,613 Speaker 1: with Xavier Worthy. That means Drew, you have to pick 1034 00:46:55,652 --> 00:46:57,892 Speaker 1: a quarterback. You have not picked a quarterback all year, 1035 00:46:58,372 --> 00:47:00,012 Speaker 1: so people can have any of them you want. 1036 00:47:00,053 --> 00:47:06,652 Speaker 2: Who would you like down the Hurts Allen. I'll go 1037 00:47:06,652 --> 00:47:07,053 Speaker 2: with Hurts. 1038 00:47:07,652 --> 00:47:10,173 Speaker 3: Take to get that offense on track, and when they're 1039 00:47:10,172 --> 00:47:12,852 Speaker 3: playing their best, they're to pushing and running. So I'll 1040 00:47:12,852 --> 00:47:14,493 Speaker 3: say Jalen Hurts gets win in Minnesota. 1041 00:47:14,533 --> 00:47:14,932 Speaker 2: All right. 1042 00:47:14,973 --> 00:47:17,852 Speaker 1: So Billy, who all year has taken weird picks but 1043 00:47:17,973 --> 00:47:20,692 Speaker 1: is still tied for the lead. He scatter bows it 1044 00:47:20,812 --> 00:47:24,732 Speaker 1: up against the Broncos. I'm gonna go with Xavier Worthy 1045 00:47:24,732 --> 00:47:28,613 Speaker 1: with my wide receivers, and Drew goes with Jalen Hurts. 1046 00:47:28,652 --> 00:47:29,372 Speaker 2: I forgot the rule. 1047 00:47:29,413 --> 00:47:30,732 Speaker 3: Could I have picked a tight end or is it 1048 00:47:30,772 --> 00:47:34,053 Speaker 3: tight ends? Tight ends wide receivers? Because I got my 1049 00:47:34,093 --> 00:47:36,252 Speaker 3: eyes on Harold Finn and Junior from Bowling Grad all 1050 00:47:36,413 --> 00:47:37,772 Speaker 3: week and Joe, Who's hurt? 1051 00:47:38,533 --> 00:47:41,892 Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel gets you picked it? To Joe, why do 1052 00:47:41,933 --> 00:47:45,172 Speaker 2: you want Brown's tight end so much? The times I've 1053 00:47:45,172 --> 00:47:47,972 Speaker 2: done it? But this is only week five of us 1054 00:47:47,973 --> 00:47:49,813 Speaker 2: picking and you've picked it? You want to pick Browns 1055 00:47:49,812 --> 00:47:52,252 Speaker 2: tight ends twice? I would have done. He's like four 1056 00:47:52,252 --> 00:47:54,652 Speaker 2: to one. I'm just I'm only one one on my 1057 00:47:54,812 --> 00:47:58,092 Speaker 2: Browns bets one loss. And I told you on week 1058 00:47:58,133 --> 00:48:01,932 Speaker 2: one Harold Fannon is the future of that position in Cleveland. Now, Joe, 1059 00:48:01,973 --> 00:48:04,452 Speaker 2: who's hurt? You got Dylan Gabriel trying to make a 1060 00:48:04,453 --> 00:48:06,772 Speaker 2: statement against Miami. I'm just saying, keep an eye on 1061 00:48:06,772 --> 00:48:07,973 Speaker 2: Harrold Fan and Junior from Bunker. 1062 00:48:21,973 --> 00:48:24,333 Speaker 1: All right, Let's run over some other games we haven't 1063 00:48:24,332 --> 00:48:28,772 Speaker 1: mentioned yet. In the Icy Hot Bowl, does Aaron Rodgers 1064 00:48:28,973 --> 00:48:30,893 Speaker 1: go to five and one, against Joe Flacco. 1065 00:48:31,493 --> 00:48:35,013 Speaker 3: He does saw Rodgers has the it's either the fifth 1066 00:48:35,093 --> 00:48:36,853 Speaker 3: or sixth best quarterback. 1067 00:48:36,453 --> 00:48:37,973 Speaker 2: Rating of his career right now. I don't like that. 1068 00:48:38,413 --> 00:48:40,812 Speaker 2: I wanted this to be a miserable failure too. 1069 00:48:40,933 --> 00:48:43,613 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, four out of the five one MVP when he 1070 00:48:43,613 --> 00:48:44,253 Speaker 3: headed Betters. 1071 00:48:44,533 --> 00:48:47,292 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, next thing, you know, he's going to be like 1072 00:48:47,372 --> 00:48:50,333 Speaker 1: the surgeon General because of how he's playing right now. 1073 00:48:50,533 --> 00:48:53,053 Speaker 2: It helps that he has DK Metcalf, who's also killing 1074 00:48:53,053 --> 00:48:54,133 Speaker 2: it with Pittsburgh. Yeah. 1075 00:48:54,133 --> 00:48:56,892 Speaker 1: I mean both those guys consider washed up. I think 1076 00:48:56,893 --> 00:48:59,493 Speaker 1: they win too. But I would just say Thursday night 1077 00:48:59,573 --> 00:49:03,453 Speaker 1: foot this this this feels like a game that could 1078 00:49:03,533 --> 00:49:06,652 Speaker 1: surprise Flaco on the row. 1079 00:49:06,852 --> 00:49:11,133 Speaker 2: An old rivalry in the AFC North. If you're the Bengals, 1080 00:49:11,453 --> 00:49:14,493 Speaker 2: if you can find a way to win this game, okay, 1081 00:49:15,013 --> 00:49:17,732 Speaker 2: get to three and four, then all of a sudden, 1082 00:49:18,013 --> 00:49:23,292 Speaker 2: you've got the Jets next week, Bears, Steelers, Patriots, Ravens. 1083 00:49:23,613 --> 00:49:25,932 Speaker 1: Like, you can make some movements here. But I think 1084 00:49:25,973 --> 00:49:27,852 Speaker 1: if you if you look at the Bengals to make 1085 00:49:27,893 --> 00:49:29,972 Speaker 1: the playoffs, I kind of think they need to win 1086 00:49:30,053 --> 00:49:30,493 Speaker 1: this one. 1087 00:49:30,812 --> 00:49:33,573 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is a desperation game because the Steelers 1088 00:49:33,573 --> 00:49:36,133 Speaker 3: would just further their lead, and they're already up a 1089 00:49:36,133 --> 00:49:36,932 Speaker 3: couple of games on. 1090 00:49:36,893 --> 00:49:38,852 Speaker 2: You as it is, and this is your home too. Yeah, 1091 00:49:38,973 --> 00:49:41,252 Speaker 2: you can't if I mean, you're pretty much mathematic You're 1092 00:49:41,252 --> 00:49:43,372 Speaker 2: not mathematically eliminated, but you're pretty much eliminated if you 1093 00:49:43,453 --> 00:49:45,133 Speaker 2: let Steelers get another one on you in a headhead 1094 00:49:46,292 --> 00:49:52,933 Speaker 2: another battle of terrible Dolphins Browns. I'm gonna I'm gonna 1095 00:49:52,933 --> 00:49:55,093 Speaker 2: fade the Dolphins. Neither one of these teams I want 1096 00:49:55,093 --> 00:49:57,732 Speaker 2: to say I have confidence in, but it's it's in Cleveland, 1097 00:49:58,413 --> 00:50:02,772 Speaker 2: like you, like Dylan Gabriel. Here, it's more of the Browns. 1098 00:50:02,852 --> 00:50:05,972 Speaker 3: Defense is the only elite part of any of this. 1099 00:50:06,133 --> 00:50:09,012 Speaker 3: So I'll trust their defense and hopefully Gabriel can find 1100 00:50:09,053 --> 00:50:09,972 Speaker 3: the end zone once or twice. 1101 00:50:10,053 --> 00:50:12,772 Speaker 1: I'm telling you what I'm worried about. In Chicago one 1102 00:50:12,812 --> 00:50:16,053 Speaker 1: o'clock Bears Saints. This feels like a letdown. You'll go 1103 00:50:16,172 --> 00:50:19,613 Speaker 1: in on Monday night, you go win against the Commanders, 1104 00:50:19,652 --> 00:50:22,013 Speaker 1: then you come home against a bad Saints team and 1105 00:50:22,053 --> 00:50:23,973 Speaker 1: you think, well, of course we're gonna win this one 1106 00:50:24,133 --> 00:50:27,572 Speaker 1: to go four and two. I would stay away from 1107 00:50:27,573 --> 00:50:29,613 Speaker 1: this game as a game where I kind of am 1108 00:50:29,613 --> 00:50:31,613 Speaker 1: a little worried about the Saints here. 1109 00:50:32,172 --> 00:50:34,573 Speaker 2: You don't think four straight wins for Chicago. 1110 00:50:34,933 --> 00:50:37,452 Speaker 1: No, Saints are plus two hundred. The Bears lose a 1111 00:50:37,493 --> 00:50:41,932 Speaker 1: game like this every year and short rest. I am 1112 00:50:42,013 --> 00:50:44,452 Speaker 1: worried about it. I'm gonna take Saints have played web 1113 00:50:44,533 --> 00:50:46,292 Speaker 1: last few weeks, even though they've lost. 1114 00:50:46,172 --> 00:50:48,452 Speaker 3: They have I'm gonna take the Bears. I think you're 1115 00:50:48,933 --> 00:50:50,612 Speaker 3: you're just being a fan. You gotta keep your guard 1116 00:50:50,652 --> 00:50:52,172 Speaker 3: up as a fan. It's not my team, so I 1117 00:50:52,172 --> 00:50:53,932 Speaker 3: can look at it objectively, so you'll be all right, 1118 00:50:54,292 --> 00:50:56,692 Speaker 3: and I hope you're right. Colts go to the Chargers. 1119 00:50:58,493 --> 00:51:01,492 Speaker 3: You don't have to worry about road atmosphere in La. 1120 00:51:01,732 --> 00:51:05,053 Speaker 3: Colts could go to six and one. However, if the 1121 00:51:05,133 --> 00:51:08,053 Speaker 3: Chargers win, they would be on pace to be the 1122 00:51:08,053 --> 00:51:10,012 Speaker 3: one seed in the AFC. So this is a game 1123 00:51:10,053 --> 00:51:10,813 Speaker 3: that could swing. 1124 00:51:11,533 --> 00:51:13,973 Speaker 1: I don't think people think Colton's Chargers is a huge 1125 00:51:14,013 --> 00:51:15,492 Speaker 1: game for the playoffs, but. 1126 00:51:15,493 --> 00:51:15,932 Speaker 2: It might be. 1127 00:51:17,372 --> 00:51:21,333 Speaker 3: Yeah, this game on paper a month ago looks silly. 1128 00:51:21,413 --> 00:51:22,613 Speaker 3: And just to add to it, I don't know if 1129 00:51:22,692 --> 00:51:25,692 Speaker 3: y'all saw the Chargers are wearing like all yellow color 1130 00:51:25,772 --> 00:51:26,613 Speaker 3: Rush uniforms. 1131 00:51:26,812 --> 00:51:29,213 Speaker 2: They want to see those. I think they're called Charger power. 1132 00:51:29,973 --> 00:51:33,013 Speaker 3: Just imagine as much yellow, as much yellow as you 1133 00:51:33,013 --> 00:51:33,933 Speaker 3: could get on your person. 1134 00:51:34,013 --> 00:51:35,932 Speaker 2: That's what they're going for for this game. I want 1135 00:51:35,933 --> 00:51:39,332 Speaker 2: to see this Charger power. That is yellow. A lot 1136 00:51:39,332 --> 00:51:43,252 Speaker 2: of yellow, A lot of yellow. Okay, whoa, So they're 1137 00:51:43,332 --> 00:51:46,852 Speaker 2: they're fired up. They want the yellow going. Wow, they've 1138 00:51:46,893 --> 00:51:48,133 Speaker 2: been disappointing lately. They had to win. 1139 00:51:48,212 --> 00:51:50,013 Speaker 3: I know you said they're in good standing in the 1140 00:51:50,053 --> 00:51:52,493 Speaker 3: playoff race, but they took some losses they shouldn't have. 1141 00:51:52,613 --> 00:51:57,212 Speaker 2: Oh, that is yellow. It looks like a banana does. 1142 00:51:57,212 --> 00:52:00,133 Speaker 2: Look like Herbert's gonna be out there in a banana suit. Yeah, 1143 00:52:00,172 --> 00:52:03,372 Speaker 2: but I kind of like it. Do you think they 1144 00:52:03,413 --> 00:52:04,013 Speaker 2: have hoodies? 1145 00:52:05,133 --> 00:52:08,652 Speaker 3: But yellow is just not like it doesn't motivate me. 1146 00:52:08,893 --> 00:52:11,172 Speaker 3: If I'm a football player, I'm not gonna be walking. 1147 00:52:10,973 --> 00:52:12,492 Speaker 2: Around and yellow. I kind of like it. 1148 00:52:12,573 --> 00:52:15,573 Speaker 1: I think the Chargers their thing, because they're so boring, 1149 00:52:15,573 --> 00:52:19,292 Speaker 1: should just be have the ugliest, brightest colors. 1150 00:52:19,493 --> 00:52:23,773 Speaker 3: They're doing like a retro field, maybe some retro field, 1151 00:52:23,812 --> 00:52:26,652 Speaker 3: Like they're painting it yellow and the old bolt and 1152 00:52:26,692 --> 00:52:29,093 Speaker 3: like they're going back and going to be all of it. 1153 00:52:29,172 --> 00:52:31,652 Speaker 3: But the end zones they're they're going it's a throwback game. 1154 00:52:33,013 --> 00:52:36,172 Speaker 2: Throwback to win. They're extra yellow. I don't know. I'm 1155 00:52:36,212 --> 00:52:36,932 Speaker 2: just tell you. 1156 00:52:37,613 --> 00:52:39,452 Speaker 3: Yellow going to have the old logo in the end 1157 00:52:39,533 --> 00:52:42,053 Speaker 3: zone and okay, they'll probably have Antonio Gates out there 1158 00:52:42,093 --> 00:52:45,412 Speaker 3: flipping a coin. Ladani and Tomlinson flyover. They're just all 1159 00:52:45,453 --> 00:52:47,652 Speaker 3: the throwback chargers you can get. You should, you should 1160 00:52:47,652 --> 00:52:51,053 Speaker 3: bring all those people, famous charger. You know, you get 1161 00:52:51,493 --> 00:52:54,573 Speaker 3: Mike McCoy, bring him back. Once the Titans are down thirty, 1162 00:52:54,652 --> 00:52:56,053 Speaker 3: McCoy can get in the jet and being. 1163 00:52:55,933 --> 00:52:59,052 Speaker 1: Sent san exactly. That's exactly right. Let's make it. That's 1164 00:52:59,093 --> 00:53:03,013 Speaker 1: make it a fun yellow day. The Commanders are playing 1165 00:53:03,053 --> 00:53:06,133 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. This is kind of an important bounce back 1166 00:53:06,252 --> 00:53:09,452 Speaker 1: game for both team. Cowboys lost the Panthers, Commanders lost 1167 00:53:09,493 --> 00:53:09,933 Speaker 1: at home. 1168 00:53:10,533 --> 00:53:13,053 Speaker 2: This is a big game. This will be a huge audience. 1169 00:53:13,292 --> 00:53:15,573 Speaker 2: Who do you like? Commanders? 1170 00:53:16,172 --> 00:53:18,573 Speaker 3: Dak's been awesome, their offense is awesome, but they have 1171 00:53:18,652 --> 00:53:21,613 Speaker 3: a bad loss to the Giants, a tie and then 1172 00:53:21,652 --> 00:53:22,933 Speaker 3: that loss to the Panthers. 1173 00:53:23,573 --> 00:53:28,172 Speaker 2: Your boy, your bears got iber Flus. He's the defensive coordinator. 1174 00:53:28,372 --> 00:53:30,533 Speaker 2: Why the people aren't very happy with him? Right now? 1175 00:53:30,652 --> 00:53:32,812 Speaker 1: Eyen, when a bad sign the sound knew it was 1176 00:53:32,812 --> 00:53:37,813 Speaker 1: a bad sign. I saw who was it that Jerry 1177 00:53:37,893 --> 00:53:40,652 Speaker 1: Jones I think said you want to be in the 1178 00:53:40,732 --> 00:53:44,532 Speaker 1: fox hole with Matt Iberflus. When someone says they want 1179 00:53:44,573 --> 00:53:46,373 Speaker 1: to be in a fox hole with you, I'm worried 1180 00:53:46,413 --> 00:53:46,812 Speaker 1: about you. 1181 00:53:47,413 --> 00:53:49,732 Speaker 2: Billy Gillespie said that to his player fox hole. 1182 00:53:49,973 --> 00:53:52,053 Speaker 1: First of all, people who the first thing they think 1183 00:53:52,053 --> 00:53:56,133 Speaker 1: of as a fox hole, they're probably they're probably a 1184 00:53:56,172 --> 00:54:00,013 Speaker 1: little too into war analogies for me for football. But 1185 00:54:00,093 --> 00:54:01,893 Speaker 1: the moment, I don't want to be in a fox 1186 00:54:01,893 --> 00:54:05,732 Speaker 1: hole with eber Flus. I was for three years and 1187 00:54:05,812 --> 00:54:07,732 Speaker 1: a fall foxhole with Eberflus and. 1188 00:54:07,732 --> 00:54:09,212 Speaker 2: It was never pleasant. 1189 00:54:09,453 --> 00:54:11,932 Speaker 3: Well, they have the worst defense in the NFL in 1190 00:54:12,053 --> 00:54:15,692 Speaker 3: like several categories. Their thirty second Jerry might have even 1191 00:54:15,732 --> 00:54:17,333 Speaker 3: called him out a little bit. It's like, we're fine, 1192 00:54:17,533 --> 00:54:20,493 Speaker 3: the defense just has to improve, like putting some pressure 1193 00:54:20,533 --> 00:54:22,493 Speaker 3: on him. So I'm gonna take the Commanders. They're a 1194 00:54:22,533 --> 00:54:24,453 Speaker 3: wreck on Cowboys are a wreck on that side of 1195 00:54:24,453 --> 00:54:24,772 Speaker 3: the ball. 1196 00:54:24,933 --> 00:54:27,652 Speaker 1: Falcons go to the forty nine Ers. Sunday Night Football. 1197 00:54:27,732 --> 00:54:30,893 Speaker 1: Kind of an odd game on Sunday Night Football. Michael 1198 00:54:30,933 --> 00:54:34,212 Speaker 1: Pennix versus Mac Jones. This might be one Sunday where 1199 00:54:34,252 --> 00:54:37,573 Speaker 1: we can type a little early. I guess when good 1200 00:54:37,613 --> 00:54:41,613 Speaker 1: dinner after the show on Sunday night. I'm just kidding, 1201 00:54:42,172 --> 00:54:43,493 Speaker 1: who do you like in this one? 1202 00:54:44,332 --> 00:54:45,533 Speaker 3: This will be one of those where I have to 1203 00:54:45,533 --> 00:54:49,213 Speaker 3: see who is not in street clothes for the forty 1204 00:54:49,292 --> 00:54:53,332 Speaker 3: nine ers. But I I lean San Francisco regardless of 1205 00:54:53,332 --> 00:54:56,012 Speaker 3: their health, just because of Falcons getting a big win 1206 00:54:56,053 --> 00:54:57,932 Speaker 3: a week aldgo and then having to travel. 1207 00:54:57,613 --> 00:55:01,492 Speaker 2: Out to I'm gonna take San Francisco, but don't bet 1208 00:55:01,573 --> 00:55:04,052 Speaker 2: on the What'd I say bet on the Bills last week? 1209 00:55:04,093 --> 00:55:07,052 Speaker 1: But then what did I say? Never pick a Falcons game? 1210 00:55:08,453 --> 00:55:10,613 Speaker 1: I feel that way again. So I'm gonna take San Francisco, 1211 00:55:10,652 --> 00:55:11,933 Speaker 1: which means Atlanta will win. 1212 00:55:12,013 --> 00:55:13,932 Speaker 3: And we have no idea who will be on that 1213 00:55:13,973 --> 00:55:16,573 Speaker 3: injury report for Sinfrance. They could lose four more players 1214 00:55:16,573 --> 00:55:17,452 Speaker 3: before Sunday. 1215 00:55:17,133 --> 00:55:20,212 Speaker 2: At three through. I think Kittle is trending on returning. Okay, 1216 00:55:20,413 --> 00:55:23,812 Speaker 2: what do you mean you think like sources to Cover zero? 1217 00:55:24,053 --> 00:55:29,452 Speaker 2: Say that who you've been talking to? Hey, I can't 1218 00:55:29,493 --> 00:55:32,532 Speaker 2: reveal my sources. That would defeat the purpose. I need 1219 00:55:32,573 --> 00:55:36,172 Speaker 2: an in wrapaport tweet from Billy from Cover zero reports 1220 00:55:36,372 --> 00:55:41,093 Speaker 2: Billy rap report. Yeah, so you are you willing to 1221 00:55:41,133 --> 00:55:42,892 Speaker 2: stake your credibility on George Kittle. 1222 00:55:42,973 --> 00:55:45,252 Speaker 4: Yeah, Kittle coming back, but not party and I haven't 1223 00:55:45,292 --> 00:55:46,332 Speaker 4: heard enough about him yet. 1224 00:55:47,252 --> 00:55:50,933 Speaker 1: Billy r Sports reports it's part of his victory bundle. 1225 00:55:53,292 --> 00:55:56,252 Speaker 1: Then George Kittle is returning. Monday Night football. We got 1226 00:55:56,292 --> 00:56:00,252 Speaker 1: two games again. First game is a great one Bucks Lions. 1227 00:56:00,613 --> 00:56:02,772 Speaker 1: For the fourth straight week. The Bucks are playing for 1228 00:56:02,812 --> 00:56:09,212 Speaker 1: playoff seating against the Lions in Detroit. I think the Bucks, 1229 00:56:09,413 --> 00:56:12,172 Speaker 1: the Bucks luck falls here and we get a Detroit victory. 1230 00:56:12,172 --> 00:56:12,892 Speaker 1: What are you bout you? 1231 00:56:13,252 --> 00:56:15,692 Speaker 3: I agree the spreads five and a half. I might 1232 00:56:15,732 --> 00:56:17,692 Speaker 3: take the Bucks to cover that. This seems a little 1233 00:56:17,732 --> 00:56:20,372 Speaker 3: hot for two teams that played so well. But the 1234 00:56:20,372 --> 00:56:22,452 Speaker 3: Buck's gonna have to take some losses somewhere, and add 1235 00:56:22,453 --> 00:56:24,013 Speaker 3: Detroit seems like the place to do it. 1236 00:56:24,292 --> 00:56:24,812 Speaker 2: What do you aint? 1237 00:56:25,172 --> 00:56:27,492 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're struggling. I mean Abukah is going to miss 1238 00:56:27,493 --> 00:56:31,573 Speaker 4: some time. Mike Evans trending in the right direction. But no, 1239 00:56:31,652 --> 00:56:33,252 Speaker 4: I don't no guarantee. 1240 00:56:33,573 --> 00:56:38,092 Speaker 2: Billy parlay. Kittle and Evans play injury parlor. They both play. 1241 00:56:38,133 --> 00:56:39,093 Speaker 2: That would be a good parlay. 1242 00:56:39,533 --> 00:56:43,053 Speaker 4: But I agree road game Detroit is a formidable foe. 1243 00:56:43,852 --> 00:56:45,973 Speaker 2: But if Baker wins this one. I'm ready to crown 1244 00:56:46,053 --> 00:56:56,292 Speaker 2: him in week seven. You are a formidable foe. The 1245 00:56:56,332 --> 00:57:01,253 Speaker 2: fits General Campbell, I will meet you on the battlefield. 1246 00:57:01,413 --> 00:57:05,052 Speaker 2: Is a formidable foe. Bill. Are you a foxhold guy 1247 00:57:06,493 --> 00:57:07,172 Speaker 2: in the but. 1248 00:57:07,133 --> 00:57:08,892 Speaker 3: Really a banker goes and wins this and doesn't have 1249 00:57:08,933 --> 00:57:12,212 Speaker 3: an interception as like through three touchdowns or something. This 1250 00:57:12,252 --> 00:57:15,293 Speaker 3: is gonna be an unbelievable season for him already is there's. 1251 00:57:15,133 --> 00:57:17,852 Speaker 2: A ten o'clock Monday night football game. At least they're 1252 00:57:17,852 --> 00:57:20,333 Speaker 2: offsetting him a little better. I like that. Who you got? 1253 00:57:22,293 --> 00:57:26,133 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Seahawks. The Darnold Smith and Jigba 1254 00:57:26,173 --> 00:57:29,052 Speaker 3: connection has been insane this year. He's the leading the league. 1255 00:57:29,053 --> 00:57:30,733 Speaker 3: He's been better than pookin Nakua and he's got I 1256 00:57:30,733 --> 00:57:32,773 Speaker 3: think he's got a pretty big lead on him in 1257 00:57:32,852 --> 00:57:35,412 Speaker 3: receiving yards. So I'm gonna trust them to be able 1258 00:57:35,413 --> 00:57:36,333 Speaker 3: to throw on the Texans. 1259 00:57:36,413 --> 00:57:38,933 Speaker 1: I think I forgot the Texans were a team this year. 1260 00:57:39,973 --> 00:57:42,972 Speaker 1: They started really bad. Like I think about it, We've 1261 00:57:43,013 --> 00:57:45,492 Speaker 1: gone how many shows has it been since we talked 1262 00:57:45,533 --> 00:57:46,333 Speaker 1: about the Texans? 1263 00:57:46,333 --> 00:57:48,452 Speaker 2: Oh, they were on a bye last week. They're a bye. 1264 00:57:48,493 --> 00:57:51,133 Speaker 2: They played the Titans, which is like a bye before that. Yeah, 1265 00:57:51,173 --> 00:57:54,013 Speaker 2: I just I don't think I've thought about the Texans 1266 00:57:54,013 --> 00:57:57,053 Speaker 2: this year. Give me the Texans highlight this season on 1267 00:57:57,253 --> 00:58:00,853 Speaker 2: long rest Monday night night game early. Wait a minute, seriously, 1268 00:58:01,093 --> 00:58:05,453 Speaker 2: give me one thing that's happened with the Texans this years? Okay, 1269 00:58:05,733 --> 00:58:11,412 Speaker 2: but that can you think of a moment? Has there 1270 00:58:11,453 --> 00:58:12,173 Speaker 2: been a headline? 1271 00:58:13,973 --> 00:58:17,012 Speaker 3: They lost their first two games, so people were questioning them. 1272 00:58:17,013 --> 00:58:20,372 Speaker 3: Then maybe three games. I can't think of one thing 1273 00:58:20,413 --> 00:58:21,613 Speaker 3: that's happened with the Texans. 1274 00:58:21,973 --> 00:58:24,133 Speaker 4: Yeah, they lost their first three games and then beat 1275 00:58:24,133 --> 00:58:26,413 Speaker 4: the Titans and the Ravens before they're by Yeah. 1276 00:58:26,293 --> 00:58:29,693 Speaker 2: I'd say shutting off the Titans. Wow, so they played 1277 00:58:29,733 --> 00:58:33,493 Speaker 2: both of your two teams, which is why you two know? Yeah? Yeah, 1278 00:58:33,533 --> 00:58:34,093 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1279 00:58:34,213 --> 00:58:36,293 Speaker 1: I don't think I know anything about them. Well, and 1280 00:58:36,333 --> 00:58:37,773 Speaker 1: the Seahawks are going to win. 1281 00:58:38,253 --> 00:58:40,892 Speaker 2: Drew at home. I'm really racking my brain for like 1282 00:58:40,933 --> 00:58:43,852 Speaker 2: a Texans memory from the first six weeks. Well, I 1283 00:58:44,213 --> 00:58:46,412 Speaker 2: watched an entire game that they played. I don't say 1284 00:58:46,413 --> 00:58:50,413 Speaker 2: this to be rude. 1285 00:58:49,213 --> 00:58:52,533 Speaker 1: But I can't think of a lot of Texan memories 1286 00:58:52,533 --> 00:58:57,452 Speaker 1: from my lifetime. They always play the first playoff games Saturday. 1287 00:58:56,973 --> 00:59:01,613 Speaker 4: And noon against Cincinnati Gats, Cincinnati or the Dolphins. Texans 1288 00:59:01,653 --> 00:59:02,893 Speaker 4: always play at noon. 1289 00:59:03,253 --> 00:59:03,773 Speaker 2: It's the game. 1290 00:59:03,813 --> 00:59:06,733 Speaker 1: You're like, what channel is it on? And there are 1291 00:59:06,773 --> 00:59:10,253 Speaker 1: announcers that you've never seen before. That's the Texans every 1292 00:59:10,293 --> 00:59:13,933 Speaker 1: single year. Yeah, this year they I keep focus on 1293 00:59:13,973 --> 00:59:15,773 Speaker 1: the Titans. That's the Texans game. 1294 00:59:15,813 --> 00:59:18,533 Speaker 3: When cam Ward said, if I'm keeping a buck weep, 1295 00:59:18,613 --> 00:59:20,092 Speaker 3: I won't say Billy Centimore. 1296 00:59:19,733 --> 00:59:21,933 Speaker 2: Works by that. I don't know what they've done. 1297 00:59:22,293 --> 00:59:24,053 Speaker 1: I do have one last final thing, since we were 1298 00:59:24,053 --> 00:59:28,452 Speaker 1: talking about the Texans, Spirodidas said he's one of the 1299 00:59:28,533 --> 00:59:33,493 Speaker 1: guys who does announcing and always gets assigned an AFC 1300 00:59:33,533 --> 00:59:37,253 Speaker 1: South or NFC South game. He said that he knows 1301 00:59:37,372 --> 00:59:41,173 Speaker 1: his assignment so often that his group chat for his 1302 00:59:41,213 --> 00:59:44,453 Speaker 1: broadcast crew is called NFC South Boys. 1303 00:59:48,413 --> 00:59:52,492 Speaker 2: He knows his role leaning into it. I've decided I 1304 00:59:52,653 --> 00:59:53,052 Speaker 2: like him. 1305 00:59:53,453 --> 00:59:56,813 Speaker 1: If you know exactly where you're gonna get assigned, I 1306 00:59:56,852 --> 00:59:59,013 Speaker 1: am going to get the Panthers this week. 1307 00:59:59,413 --> 01:00:01,932 Speaker 2: You have to give him credit. And just that it's 1308 01:00:01,973 --> 01:00:06,372 Speaker 2: that conference adds to the joke. That's the I am 1309 01:00:06,372 --> 01:00:08,173 Speaker 2: a big groove chat. Does he have beef with your 1310 01:00:08,213 --> 01:00:10,892 Speaker 2: boy Chris Myers, who also likes well, he might be 1311 01:00:10,933 --> 01:00:14,173 Speaker 2: in the groove chat place all the rotator. I just 1312 01:00:14,213 --> 01:00:16,852 Speaker 2: looked at are you New Orleans? I just looked up 1313 01:00:17,533 --> 01:00:19,852 Speaker 2: I just looked up Spiro's name on Twitter, and the 1314 01:00:19,893 --> 01:00:21,893 Speaker 2: first thing that came up as a tweet that goes 1315 01:00:22,213 --> 01:00:28,133 Speaker 2: nothing says a New Saints season like Spirodidas and Adam Arschaletta, 1316 01:00:28,372 --> 01:00:31,852 Speaker 2: I like Archi LETTA good ram. There you go. 1317 01:00:32,293 --> 01:00:35,613 Speaker 1: Well, Uh, thank you folks very much for listening. We 1318 01:00:35,613 --> 01:00:39,013 Speaker 1: will be back Sunday ninth. Uh for following the forty 1319 01:00:39,093 --> 01:00:43,653 Speaker 1: nine ers and Falcons. Enjoy your week, and uh tell 1320 01:00:43,693 --> 01:00:59,653 Speaker 1: your friends this is NFL Cover zero. NFL Covers Zero 1321 01:00:59,813 --> 01:01:01,852 Speaker 1: with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of 1322 01:01:01,893 --> 01:01:05,173 Speaker 1: the NFL and iHeart Podcast. 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