WEBVTT - Convos About the Cool Table 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.440 What's up? And welcome back to another episode of No 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.480 Sealers Podcast with your hosts Now fuck that with your 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:19.680 loaw Glasses, Malone, Pete dog my man, what's happening mixing songs? 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:23.760 You know booked that big studio where they got those 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:28.880 fifteen thousand monitors fifteen thousand dollars monitors like speakers, so 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:33.120 you can get the truest mix on your records. You 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:36.440 just gotta focus the whole time on mixing records. Like 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:43.040 it's just crazy and fuck glasses, like I realized, because 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:46.000 my career is in this weird place, like it's right 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:49.519 at the end of the West Coast greatness and at 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:52.960 the beginning of what became the future and music like 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:58.160 streaming apps, you know, Spotify, Title Apple, A lot of 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:03.840 the projects I put out, A lot of the projects 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:09.320 that I put out, they didn't weren't on streaming services. 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:12.920 You know. It's more that pith Era. It's more than 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:16.160 that pith Era. So now that I have to put 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:21.240 the music, I have to put the music on streaming sites, 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:24.319 I get a chance to go in and really correct it, 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:26.520 you know what I mean, And like I have far 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:29.840 like my knowledge of making records at this point is 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.920 far too vast, you know what I mean for me 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:36.920 not to make adjustments to music when I hear it, 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:40.120 you know, mistakes or different things when I hear it, 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:43.560 Like it's hard for me to not make the changes 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:53.440 of percent. So, you know, re recording songs, you know, 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:58.200 refreshing songs, remixing songs, just doing as much as I 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:01.400 can to make sure when people listen to fuck Glasses Malone, 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:03.520 even though it's going to say it came out of 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:06.200 two thousand and eight, it has twenty twenty four knowledge 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:09.600 from Glasses Malone. So it's just been a journey the 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:14.160 last few days. And say the least man it shit 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:15.120 is just dope. 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:18.079 That's what's up. It sounds like a lot of work, 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:19.200 more than a. 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:21.960 Lot of world is, but it's it's a lot of joy. 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:26.800 It's a lot of Junian and the actual adventure itself 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:32.160 is probably the most fun part creating the idea. You know, 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:37.240 it's it's everything dog. So so some was on my mind, right. 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:43.760 I like to call hip hop the cool table. Okay, 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:49.320 you know, if if if the world is a is 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:53.640 a cafeteria, then hip hop is the cool table in 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:58.359 the cafeteria. It might have been thirty tables inside the cafeteria, 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:01.040 but then there was these two or three tables that 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:06.639 were the coolest tables in the cafeteria. Sure, sure, I 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:09.400 like to think of hip hop as the cool table 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:15.880 in the cafeteria, right And hip hop has been at 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:23.200 that table and running that table since the nineties. Since 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:25.880 hip hop's inception, as you know, being a part of 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:30.440 the music business in the late seventies early eighties, it 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:34.520 has clearly made its way through all the other tables. 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:38.280 Past the goth kids, the rock kids pasted all these 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:44.440 kids and became the cool table in America. And the 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:47.320 reality is, when they first started off in the eighties, 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:50.560 nobody wanted a piece of it. In the nineties, nobody 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:52.920 wanted a piece of it. Everybody was so scared to 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:55.720 go and mess with the poor kid at the cool table. 0:03:56.240 --> 0:04:00.480 Right fast forward, we get to two thousand, every body 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.400 wants to do some kind of business and have an 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:06.240 affiliation with the cool table. Right now, you have all 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:10.280 of the brands, different people coming like, hey, we want 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:15.200 you to make us cool too, or our product cool. Right. Sure, 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:20.839 before that, you had to really work your way to 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:23.440 even be apart. You couldn't even just buy your way 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:30.880 to the table. It was really expensive to buy your 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:34.360 way into the cool table. That's hip hop you. I mean, 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:37.080 like you had to spend some money. It was like, 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:39.960 this is the cool table. Everybody can't sit at this table, 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:43.000 you know what I mean. It wasn't like you couldn't 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:45.839 just be at the table. They were hella hella, hella 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:48.839 on who said at that fucking table. They was like 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.200 the plastics and mean girls. Bro, you could not sit 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:54.280 at this fucking table, and they will kick your ass 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:58.120 away from the table. They get your ass, kick your 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:01.360 ass out of like you can't sit here anymore. You 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:04.960 know what I'm saying. And what's been on my mind 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:10.000 for the last couple of weeks is how cheap sitting 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:12.839 at the cool table has become. Do you remember the 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:14.240 cool kids when you was in school? 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:16.039 Yeah, yeah I do. 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:19.200 What kind of dudes were there or girls? 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:20.599 They were like me? 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:27.680 I'm sure you was at the cool table to some degree. 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:31.159 Yeah, I was one of the few people at the 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:35.080 school who like, really just I had a piece of 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:36.320 every damn table there. 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:42.880 But what is the cool table? Like in oc see, 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:45.520 like like where we from right, like in Wat's counter, 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:48.000 My whole life. Right, It's like the cool table was 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:52.000 usually the kids from the poorest place that got a 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:54.720 couple of cool things on right, they got a couple 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:57.279 pair of Jordan's, you know what I mean. They was 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:59.560 the cool kids. They was the screw ups. They probably 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:03.159 didn't get the greatest grades, you know, but they wasn't 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:06.960 stupid yet. They were figuring out some way to make 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:09.200 some money and do some things with their life, you 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.360 know what I mean. But they came from the poor area. 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:14.720 Like and it's funny because the richest kids was never 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:17.279 the cool kids. Like at the schools I went to, 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:20.599 the richest kids was never the coolest kids unless you 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:23.640 got your money out the street. Like it was a 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:25.800 lot more respect for culture, you know what I mean, 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:29.400 and everybody respected to struggle, you know what I mean. 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:33.280 What was the cool table like in the OC, I. 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:35.320 Would say it mostly was just kind of like what 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:37.280 you were as a personality type. 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:40.839 So you might have had. 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:44.240 Some of the football players, but it wasn't like the 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:48.240 guys who were like hardcore like in the football like that, 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:52.240 or surfer types. But it wasn't the guys who like 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:57.360 that's all that they like eat sleeping shit, the shit. 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:00.800 It was just people who had like social enough to 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:04.160 where people liked to be gravitated toward them to the 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:06.279 extent that then they had the ability to kind of 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:09.559 picking hilles with whom they associated and dealt with because 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:11.520 they had a surplus of personal interest. 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:15.800 What's crazy is I didn't even sit at the cool 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:20.600 tables when I was in high school. Like we made 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:24.640 the cool tables, like we made an area. When I 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:27.720 started high school at Paramount, I was in the tenth grade. 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:30.480 And where'd you go to n grade? 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:32.119 You said, who? 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:33.920 Where were you in the ninth grade? 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:38.400 I went to our teacher, to our teacher, and I 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:40.840 got great grades, but got kicked out because I was 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.880 late seventy three days. They pulled my permit, my ABC 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:45.040 school districts. 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:49.000 My boy teacher, I think she was in your grade. 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:54.480 Yeah, I just missed Charles O'Bannon and all of them. 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:59.680 Yeah yeah, but long story short, No, I caught charleso banning, 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:01.920 But they were leaving when I when I was or 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:05.400 they had just left either way. But I went to 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:10.280 Paramount and the cool table. Ironically, do you watch footballer? Though? 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:14.920 First off, hold up, no ceilings, no ceilings, glasses, low 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:19.440 in the motherfucking house, going to work. My nigga Pete 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:23.560 in the spot. Like usual, we're finna getting into some 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:25.680 thoughts and ship now we do this thing. 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:29.760 Were you there with Copono? I remember, was a white 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:31.400 dude to play basketball? 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:38.160 Yep, gotcha. I remember Jason copona Of and Andre Jones. 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:40.920 There was some dope players there, but I don't remember 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:42.840 because that was I only went there one year and 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:45.160 I was lay so many times it was crazy. I 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:48.360 really remember Palm's Park, you know what I mean. And it 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:50.280 was a dude that used to live across the street 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:52.960 from Palm's Park. His name is Eric. He was the 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:55.560 coolest dude man. He used to help me with my 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:57.960 whole game so much, and they used to have a 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:01.959 karm board over there. I used to love Arteacher High School. 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:05.120 I wanted to go there, but my mom, you know, 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:08.280 this was right before she went to prison, so like, 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:09.840 there's no way, you know what I mean. I was 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:11.720 gonna make it there on time, didn't you know. We 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:14.320 lived in Compas did so that just wasn't gonna happen. 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:20.920 But you watch football at all. Yeah, So the cool 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:23.840 table at paramunt High School. One of the main people 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:27.200 that ran the cool tables, the cool tables that was 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:30.719 already in existence. Is the coach of the fucking la 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:34.400 is the coach of the Las Vegas Raiders. Now the 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:41.040 homie a paramount. Yes, Antonio Pierce and AP was a 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:45.160 fuck up like AP used to get in trouble suspended. 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:47.200 They used to run with a clique. They had these 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:50.480 two cliques, nasty ass rascals and three o fos and 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:55.240 them clicks used to fight all the fucking time, you 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:58.480 know what I'm saying. And so they had this area 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:01.400 under the new building, and that would have been the 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:06.440 cool tables, right, But while we fucked with people like 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:09.800 I fucked with a couple people over there, we was 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:13.160 I had just I'm fresh I did and got courted on. 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:16.200 I'm already starting to hustle, so I'm not even finna 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:18.760 go hang with the jocks or none of that. Like 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:23.600 so me and my godbrothers, they were freshman, Steven and STEPHANU. 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:27.040 Stephan passed away, but Steven is still breathing. The twins 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:30.160 shout out to my family. But we were going there, 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:34.920 and we took this table from where the tables were 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:38.240 close to the Senior Square, and we set them next 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:41.640 to the it was a snack shack. We set them 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:44.920 on the side of the snack shack right by the gym, like, 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:47.959 and that became where we started sitting in the tenth grade. 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:50.360 Right we had like one or two tables and we 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:52.640 just be posted up. That was our spot because it 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:55.760 was me, my godbrothers, and a couple hommies that was 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:57.640 going there. So we would just be over there doing 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:02.920 our thing. By the time I graduated, you know, it 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:06.839 was so many motherfucking tables over there. It might have 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.600 been like eight tables in our little section. And that 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:13.320 area became just as cool as the new building area. 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:17.200 And if I've never like just ran and did what 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:21.680 the cool people did, like I just I've always thought 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:23.719 I was fine no matter what, like you know what 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:25.920 I mean. I don't know if I was cool as 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.440 the word, but I always thought that I was a 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:33.200 special person. So I never fell into shit that I 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:36.720 didn't want to do just to be accepted. So like 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:40.520 we made our section cool. Right now, the new building 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:43.720 still was the cool area, but our section was justice booming, 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:47.080 And by the time we graduated, it was so many 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:49.439 people that would sit with us, like we twenty thirty 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:50.760 people sitting with us, you know what I mean, We 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:54.440 just doing our thing. I say all that to say, 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.680 when I'm looking at hip hop right now, the cool table, 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:02.640 I'm looking at different people trying to make their way 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:10.400 into the cool table. Do you ever watch DJ Vlad? Yeah? 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:11.880 Sometimes so. 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:15.240 Vlad is one of those kind of people right where 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:20.960 Vlad take a lot of shit, bro like Flag take 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:24.040 a lot of shit. Like people say he's a culture vulture. 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:28.480 They say his show gets people, you know, implicated and 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:34.800 crimes and all kinds of shit. But you only can 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.360 go up there and say some shit to get yourself 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:39.160 in trouble, if that was the case, because you don't 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:41.520 actually have to say shit to get yourself in trouble. 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:46.439 But to vlast credit, and this is something that I 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:49.400 don't know how many people know about Vlad, but Vlad 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:53.400 has been like as far as covering it, probably before 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:57.720 I start putting out music, I was doing Vlad TVs 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:01.160 back in two thousand and four and five, you know 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:04.200 what I mean, And at that time, like how Vlad 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:07.280 Show is now, Vlad is like somewhere else, you know 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:09.520 what I mean, doing the interview remote and he just 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:11.560 does a good voiceover. So it sounds like he's in 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:13.839 a room, but he's not in the same room as 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:17.120 a lot of the guests. But at that time, Vlad 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:19.439 would like I used to have Vlad coming to watts 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.560 bro Like he would come to the seven and post 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:25.000 up and just be getting his footage talking to the 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:29.160 g homies. So I always gave Blad credit as somebody 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:32.880 where he really was gonna put itself on the line 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:36.479 to go be a part and get you know, information 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:39.400 about the culture, whatever it was. And I always gave 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:42.239 him that credit. Back then, Vlad used to do mixtapes. 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:43.640 A lot of people don't know this, you know what 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:46.400 I mean. They just think he started some interview platform 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:49.199 and blah blah blah. But this dude was really smart 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:51.640 as a DJ. He was sharp. He could pick a 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:54.720 good song, a good record. So he's not totally void 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.400 of knowledge when it comes to hip hop, you know 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:00.439 what I mean. He's not some fool for all, Like, 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.360 Vlad is very much in the know when it comes 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:06.000 to this music shit, like when it comes to hip 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:16.520 hop music, sure, but fast forward, it's like that his 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.520 goal was always to be a part of the culture. 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:26.400 Now because rest is sure like the culture made DJ 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:29.840 Blad Flat TV. No question, the culture made DJ bla 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:33.600 Blat TV, like the culture Street Urban culture made lat TV. 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:37.760 Does he not have a right to sit at the 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:40.720 cool table at that point if people want to use 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:44.080 his platform? Does that make sense? You know what I mean? 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:46.760 When you have that conversation, Does that not make sense? 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:50.280 Does he not? Did he not earn his his seat 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:51.120 at the table? 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:53.440 Sure? 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:58.400 I mean it's a revolving door typically usually anyway. I mean, 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:05.160 his career exists because of the genre, and he gained 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:09.040 value from the genre for his own platform, but by 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:12.600 and large, at this point in time, other individuals gained 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:16.680 value by participating on his platform, so it's reciprocal. 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:23.600 I agree. When you hear the term culture vulture, what 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:27.160 kind of person do you think of? Because I'll be honest, right, 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:29.320 I know people say that about Vlad all the time, 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:33.359 and I don't agree with Blad says some really unsavory 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:37.880 shit about Lewis fay Kahn, and I'm not really cool 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:40.120 with that. You know. It's one of those things to 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:43.160 where it's like, you know, I understand why people are upset, 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:48.200 but I never looked at because like a culture vuture. Yeah, 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:51.160 he always had a genuine interest in the coach of 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:54.120 lad had a fucking black woman back then, you know 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:55.640 what I mean. And I'm not saying because you get 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.920 some black pussy that make you a part of said culture. 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:01.200 But he was hell a vested in it, you know 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:03.520 what I mean. He wasn't just some motherfucking But don't 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:05.760 get me wrong. I don't think he was living the culture, 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.400 you know what I mean. He's not living the street life, 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:13.000 but he made it his job to cover it and 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:18.640 back then, to put himself in danger, you know, to 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:23.520 go see exactly what's going down. He's doing these interviews 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:27.960 currently with different people when he's talking about the BMF dudes, 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:30.680 and it's funny because I hear Cuz talking. He'd be like, yeah, 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:36.000 you know, well I did the He was talking about 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:38.240 how he hung with be Amth for like two or 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.320 three days. He's like, yeah, man, they're blowing money and 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:43.280 they're in clubs, and you know, I know, they're not 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:45.720 selling any records. So I had to separate myself. And 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:49.680 I was thinking to myself, like, glad, nobody, no federal 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:53.160 law enforcement would think you are selling drugs and a 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.360 part of BMF. I don't know if it was really 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:59.520 that that important cover. You just separate yourself into that 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:02.960 degree outside of upcoming artist. 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:04.800 He might have met it in the sense that he 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:08.520 didn't want to get it is some ship that was. 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:09.200 Not the law. 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:13.840 I don't think Lad would have got into any ship 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:18.000 like Vlad everybody. 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:20.600 I just mean, you could wrong place, wrong time it, 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:21.600 you know what I mean. 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:25.439 Say that again, I just mean in a sense that 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:28.359 he might have just meant it like you can wrong place, 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:29.800 wrong time it, you know what I mean. 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:33.280 Well, I don't know if it's even could be wrong place, 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:35.080 the wrong time he was just talking about. He was 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:37.320 at the club with him or at the house. Either way, 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:41.480 no matter what happened, I don't think the fans would 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:45.560 have thought Vlad had shipped to do with nothing. But 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:46.120 it was fun. 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:50.080 I mean, you running a muck through the nightclub scene 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:54.080 with those guys in city to city, anything could happen. 0:17:56.280 --> 0:18:00.199 You gotta walk, that's the perspective. But no, that's not 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:01.760 how it work, you know, I mean, it don't work 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.040 that way. That was a case Gez being prison. You 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:06.679 know what I'm saying. It don't work that way. Yeah, 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:09.439 But I say that to say, like, what do you 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:12.400 feel a culture vulture is what's a culture voture by 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:13.240 definition for you? 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:22.200 Ah, shit, that's a pretty opaque term. It's I think 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:23.879 a lot of the time, it's pretty much just an 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:27.320 insult to somebody. That is, if you could say that 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:33.720 about anybody, I guess who's crowd doesn't match their own race, 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:36.840 if you don't like them, you know, I mean people 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:39.200 don't say that about Eminem, but I'm sure somebody wanted 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:40.959 to talk about Eminem. You can say the same thing 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:43.560 about Eminem. People would resent that, people would say that's 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:46.679 bullshit for whatever reason. But it depends on It's one 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:52.280 of those terms. Yeah, I'm just saying, if you want 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:55.000 to do a disc track on them, you know, you could, 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:58.400 you can run that. You know, people don't do it, 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.880 but you know, there's it depends on how you want 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:03.879 to define it, you know. 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:09.560 So do you feel that's a do you feel that's 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:12.280 an applicable term? Is that? Is there really a definition 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:16.600 for that term? 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:23.520 Not really? I mean like there is. It's it's such 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:27.600 a slippery slope term that it. 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:29.480 Sort of nullifies itself. Like the best example would be 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:36.240 like say, and this is illustrative not literal. 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:37.160 But. 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:42.520 Like that girl Miley Cyrus, right, if her career wasn't 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:44.560 getting off the ground, and then she like, didn't you 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:46.080 do a song with three six or something like that, 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:48.919 She did a song with some rap artists, she. 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:52.200 Changed her whole show album produced by and she did 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:53.720 a whole album produced by Mike Will. 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:56.119 Okay, Yeah, if that like. 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:03.680 Saved her fledgling career was done deliberately for that purpose, 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:05.720 then you could say that, Yeah, she was already a 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:09.080 big deal at the time, so it's not really you know, 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:13.000 it's not like changed your life. Life was already pretty 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:13.560 pretty good. 0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:16.760 Sure, But I don't know. 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:21.280 See, when I think of culture vulture, I think of 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:28.000 people like, let's say, post Malone, and it's because it's 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:35.159 when people kind of they shoeshine ideas, like the first 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:39.520 time post Malone, you know, or the first time I 0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:42.119 heard of post Malone. I mean, he probably had a 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:45.199 follow him before. I just don't know. Was he had 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:50.320 a song called White Iverson and he had braids to 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:55.359 the back. He was wearing an Iverson jersey. He's doing 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:58.400 donuts out in the middle of nowhere in the phantom. 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:03.800 You know, he's carrying himself like he's of said culture. Now, 0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:06.399 don't get me wrong. I think there's plenty of white 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:10.919 people who love Alan Iverson. I'm sure because Ai is 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:15.600 such a fucking iconic anomaly as an athlete and as 0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:18.000 a hooper, like it's just out of this world, even 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:21.320 as a fashion icon and what he represented to the 0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:26.760 NBA for years to come. Right, Yeah, it's another thing 0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:30.760 when you call yourself the white version of him, you 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:32.560 know what I mean? And then you braid your hair 0:21:32.640 --> 0:21:36.040 to the back and you put on some loaches, some 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:41.160 dark shades, and then like later on he comes out 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:43.560 and he's like, yeah, I'm not really a rapper or 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:47.000 it was something loosely around he's not really down with 0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:49.199 the culture to that degree. 0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:49.920 What was it? 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:52.600 Oh, when he said a white Iverson, I thought it 0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:55.240 was a reference to the fact that did he undergrad 0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:55.960 at Georgetown? 0:21:57.200 --> 0:21:59.760 Definitely didn't undergrad at Georgetown? Definitely didn't. 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:03.120 That was I was wrong. I don't know his lifestyle. 0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:04.520 I don't know where he's from or is up there. 0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:06.320 I don't know nothing about the guy just knows music 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:10.440 when the song ends. I don't know ship about him. 0:22:10.440 --> 0:22:13.280 So like, was he just a guy from god knows where? 0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:15.200 And to society you know something, I'm just gonna throw 0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:16.880 this ship together and see how it goes. 0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:23.000 Yes, and it hit for really the culture blew him up. 0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:28.000 They was like, look at this motherfucking white man. He's man, 0:22:28.080 --> 0:22:36.840 you know, just looking d man. Okay, right by crazy 0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:39.120 such a talent man. 0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:40.680 I was like, looking man. 0:22:40.840 --> 0:22:44.919 Was he like he looks like like like the dirty 0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:47.320 ass kid from a group home or something like that. 0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:52.160 He'd be looking like he'd be dazzy drugg Look that's 0:22:53.920 --> 0:22:58.359 my boy, isn't there? But see And then but later 0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:02.120 on he comes out and he's like, yo, yeah, I'm 0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:04.760 not down with the culture. Not those word specifically, but 0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:08.159 things to say that equip the equivalent to I'm not 0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:11.439 down with the culture. Now, he's not down with putting on. 0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:13.679 You know, he'll do songs with other rappers, you know, 0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:16.639 so people can't take the credit he puts on. You know, 0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:20.080 he's done songs with Roddy Rich, different people from the Migos, 0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:22.920 twenty one Savage, all the urban acts, you know what 0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:27.119 I mean. But somewhere along the line he disassociated himself 0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:31.439