Speaker 1: What's up? And welcome back to another episode of No
Speaker 1: Sealers Podcast with your hosts Now fuck that with your
Speaker 1: loaw Glasses, Malone, Pete dog my man, what's happening mixing songs?
Speaker 1: You know booked that big studio where they got those
Speaker 1: fifteen thousand monitors fifteen thousand dollars monitors like speakers, so
Speaker 1: you can get the truest mix on your records. You
Speaker 1: just gotta focus the whole time on mixing records. Like
Speaker 1: it's just crazy and fuck glasses, like I realized, because
Speaker 1: my career is in this weird place, like it's right
Speaker 1: at the end of the West Coast greatness and at
Speaker 1: the beginning of what became the future and music like
Speaker 1: streaming apps, you know, Spotify, Title Apple, A lot of
Speaker 1: the projects I put out, A lot of the projects
Speaker 1: that I put out, they didn't weren't on streaming services.
Speaker 1: You know. It's more that pith Era. It's more than
Speaker 1: that pith Era. So now that I have to put
Speaker 1: the music, I have to put the music on streaming sites,
Speaker 1: I get a chance to go in and really correct it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And like I have far
Speaker 1: like my knowledge of making records at this point is
Speaker 1: far too vast, you know what I mean for me
Speaker 1: not to make adjustments to music when I hear it,
Speaker 1: you know, mistakes or different things when I hear it,
Speaker 1: Like it's hard for me to not make the changes
Speaker 1: of percent. So, you know, re recording songs, you know,
Speaker 1: refreshing songs, remixing songs, just doing as much as I
Speaker 1: can to make sure when people listen to fuck Glasses Malone,
Speaker 1: even though it's going to say it came out of
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, it has twenty twenty four knowledge
Speaker 1: from Glasses Malone. So it's just been a journey the
Speaker 1: last few days. And say the least man it shit
Speaker 1: is just dope.
Speaker 2: That's what's up. It sounds like a lot of work,
Speaker 2: more than a.
Speaker 1: Lot of world is, but it's it's a lot of joy.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of Junian and the actual adventure itself
Speaker 1: is probably the most fun part creating the idea. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's everything dog. So so some was on my mind, right.
Speaker 1: I like to call hip hop the cool table. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, if if if the world is a is
Speaker 1: a cafeteria, then hip hop is the cool table in
Speaker 1: the cafeteria. It might have been thirty tables inside the cafeteria,
Speaker 1: but then there was these two or three tables that
Speaker 1: were the coolest tables in the cafeteria. Sure, sure, I
Speaker 1: like to think of hip hop as the cool table
Speaker 1: in the cafeteria, right And hip hop has been at
Speaker 1: that table and running that table since the nineties. Since
Speaker 1: hip hop's inception, as you know, being a part of
Speaker 1: the music business in the late seventies early eighties, it
Speaker 1: has clearly made its way through all the other tables.
Speaker 1: Past the goth kids, the rock kids pasted all these
Speaker 1: kids and became the cool table in America. And the
Speaker 1: reality is, when they first started off in the eighties,
Speaker 1: nobody wanted a piece of it. In the nineties, nobody
Speaker 1: wanted a piece of it. Everybody was so scared to
Speaker 1: go and mess with the poor kid at the cool table.
Speaker 1: Right fast forward, we get to two thousand, every body
Speaker 1: wants to do some kind of business and have an
Speaker 1: affiliation with the cool table. Right now, you have all
Speaker 1: of the brands, different people coming like, hey, we want
Speaker 1: you to make us cool too, or our product cool. Right. Sure,
Speaker 1: before that, you had to really work your way to
Speaker 1: even be apart. You couldn't even just buy your way
Speaker 1: to the table. It was really expensive to buy your
Speaker 1: way into the cool table. That's hip hop you. I mean,
Speaker 1: like you had to spend some money. It was like,
Speaker 1: this is the cool table. Everybody can't sit at this table,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It wasn't like you couldn't
Speaker 1: just be at the table. They were hella hella, hella
Speaker 1: on who said at that fucking table. They was like
Speaker 1: the plastics and mean girls. Bro, you could not sit
Speaker 1: at this fucking table, and they will kick your ass
Speaker 1: away from the table. They get your ass, kick your
Speaker 1: ass out of like you can't sit here anymore. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And what's been on my mind
Speaker 1: for the last couple of weeks is how cheap sitting
Speaker 1: at the cool table has become. Do you remember the
Speaker 1: cool kids when you was in school?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah I do.
Speaker 1: What kind of dudes were there or girls?
Speaker 2: They were like me?
Speaker 1: I'm sure you was at the cool table to some degree.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was one of the few people at the
Speaker 3: school who like, really just I had a piece of
Speaker 3: every damn table there.
Speaker 1: But what is the cool table? Like in oc see,
Speaker 1: like like where we from right, like in Wat's counter,
Speaker 1: My whole life. Right, It's like the cool table was
Speaker 1: usually the kids from the poorest place that got a
Speaker 1: couple of cool things on right, they got a couple
Speaker 1: pair of Jordan's, you know what I mean. They was
Speaker 1: the cool kids. They was the screw ups. They probably
Speaker 1: didn't get the greatest grades, you know, but they wasn't
Speaker 1: stupid yet. They were figuring out some way to make
Speaker 1: some money and do some things with their life, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But they came from the poor area.
Speaker 1: Like and it's funny because the richest kids was never
Speaker 1: the cool kids. Like at the schools I went to,
Speaker 1: the richest kids was never the coolest kids unless you
Speaker 1: got your money out the street. Like it was a
Speaker 1: lot more respect for culture, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and everybody respected to struggle, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: What was the cool table like in the OC, I.
Speaker 3: Would say it mostly was just kind of like what
Speaker 3: you were as a personality type.
Speaker 2: So you might have had.
Speaker 3: Some of the football players, but it wasn't like the
Speaker 3: guys who were like hardcore like in the football like that,
Speaker 3: or surfer types. But it wasn't the guys who like
Speaker 3: that's all that they like eat sleeping shit, the shit.
Speaker 3: It was just people who had like social enough to
Speaker 3: where people liked to be gravitated toward them to the
Speaker 3: extent that then they had the ability to kind of
Speaker 3: picking hilles with whom they associated and dealt with because
Speaker 3: they had a surplus of personal interest.
Speaker 1: What's crazy is I didn't even sit at the cool
Speaker 1: tables when I was in high school. Like we made
Speaker 1: the cool tables, like we made an area. When I
Speaker 1: started high school at Paramount, I was in the tenth grade.
Speaker 2: And where'd you go to n grade?
Speaker 1: You said, who?
Speaker 2: Where were you in the ninth grade?
Speaker 1: I went to our teacher, to our teacher, and I
Speaker 1: got great grades, but got kicked out because I was
Speaker 1: late seventy three days. They pulled my permit, my ABC
Speaker 1: school districts.
Speaker 2: My boy teacher, I think she was in your grade.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just missed Charles O'Bannon and all of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but long story short, No, I caught charleso banning,
Speaker 1: But they were leaving when I when I was or
Speaker 1: they had just left either way. But I went to
Speaker 1: Paramount and the cool table. Ironically, do you watch footballer? Though?
Speaker 1: First off, hold up, no ceilings, no ceilings, glasses, low
Speaker 1: in the motherfucking house, going to work. My nigga Pete
Speaker 1: in the spot. Like usual, we're finna getting into some
Speaker 1: thoughts and ship now we do this thing.
Speaker 3: Were you there with Copono? I remember, was a white
Speaker 3: dude to play basketball?
Speaker 1: Yep, gotcha. I remember Jason copona Of and Andre Jones.
Speaker 1: There was some dope players there, but I don't remember
Speaker 1: because that was I only went there one year and
Speaker 1: I was lay so many times it was crazy. I
Speaker 1: really remember Palm's Park, you know what I mean. And it
Speaker 1: was a dude that used to live across the street
Speaker 1: from Palm's Park. His name is Eric. He was the
Speaker 1: coolest dude man. He used to help me with my
Speaker 1: whole game so much, and they used to have a
Speaker 1: karm board over there. I used to love Arteacher High School.
Speaker 1: I wanted to go there, but my mom, you know,
Speaker 1: this was right before she went to prison, so like,
Speaker 1: there's no way, you know what I mean. I was
Speaker 1: gonna make it there on time, didn't you know. We
Speaker 1: lived in Compas did so that just wasn't gonna happen.
Speaker 1: But you watch football at all. Yeah, So the cool
Speaker 1: table at paramunt High School. One of the main people
Speaker 1: that ran the cool tables, the cool tables that was
Speaker 1: already in existence. Is the coach of the fucking la
Speaker 1: is the coach of the Las Vegas Raiders. Now the
Speaker 1: homie a paramount. Yes, Antonio Pierce and AP was a
Speaker 1: fuck up like AP used to get in trouble suspended.
Speaker 1: They used to run with a clique. They had these
Speaker 1: two cliques, nasty ass rascals and three o fos and
Speaker 1: them clicks used to fight all the fucking time, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And so they had this area
Speaker 1: under the new building, and that would have been the
Speaker 1: cool tables, right, But while we fucked with people like
Speaker 1: I fucked with a couple people over there, we was
Speaker 1: I had just I'm fresh I did and got courted on.
Speaker 1: I'm already starting to hustle, so I'm not even finna
Speaker 1: go hang with the jocks or none of that. Like
Speaker 1: so me and my godbrothers, they were freshman, Steven and STEPHANU.
Speaker 1: Stephan passed away, but Steven is still breathing. The twins
Speaker 1: shout out to my family. But we were going there,
Speaker 1: and we took this table from where the tables were
Speaker 1: close to the Senior Square, and we set them next
Speaker 1: to the it was a snack shack. We set them
Speaker 1: on the side of the snack shack right by the gym, like,
Speaker 1: and that became where we started sitting in the tenth grade.
Speaker 1: Right we had like one or two tables and we
Speaker 1: just be posted up. That was our spot because it
Speaker 1: was me, my godbrothers, and a couple hommies that was
Speaker 1: going there. So we would just be over there doing
Speaker 1: our thing. By the time I graduated, you know, it
Speaker 1: was so many motherfucking tables over there. It might have
Speaker 1: been like eight tables in our little section. And that
Speaker 1: area became just as cool as the new building area.
Speaker 1: And if I've never like just ran and did what
Speaker 1: the cool people did, like I just I've always thought
Speaker 1: I was fine no matter what, like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I don't know if I was cool as
Speaker 1: the word, but I always thought that I was a
Speaker 1: special person. So I never fell into shit that I
Speaker 1: didn't want to do just to be accepted. So like
Speaker 1: we made our section cool. Right now, the new building
Speaker 1: still was the cool area, but our section was justice booming,
Speaker 1: And by the time we graduated, it was so many
Speaker 1: people that would sit with us, like we twenty thirty
Speaker 1: people sitting with us, you know what I mean, We
Speaker 1: just doing our thing. I say all that to say,
Speaker 1: when I'm looking at hip hop right now, the cool table,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at different people trying to make their way
Speaker 1: into the cool table. Do you ever watch DJ Vlad? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Sometimes so.
Speaker 1: Vlad is one of those kind of people right where
Speaker 1: Vlad take a lot of shit, bro like Flag take
Speaker 1: a lot of shit. Like people say he's a culture vulture.
Speaker 1: They say his show gets people, you know, implicated and
Speaker 1: crimes and all kinds of shit. But you only can
Speaker 1: go up there and say some shit to get yourself
Speaker 1: in trouble, if that was the case, because you don't
Speaker 1: actually have to say shit to get yourself in trouble.
Speaker 1: But to vlast credit, and this is something that I
Speaker 1: don't know how many people know about Vlad, but Vlad
Speaker 1: has been like as far as covering it, probably before
Speaker 1: I start putting out music, I was doing Vlad TVs
Speaker 1: back in two thousand and four and five, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, And at that time, like how Vlad
Speaker 1: Show is now, Vlad is like somewhere else, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, doing the interview remote and he just
Speaker 1: does a good voiceover. So it sounds like he's in
Speaker 1: a room, but he's not in the same room as
Speaker 1: a lot of the guests. But at that time, Vlad
Speaker 1: would like I used to have Vlad coming to watts
Speaker 1: bro Like he would come to the seven and post
Speaker 1: up and just be getting his footage talking to the
Speaker 1: g homies. So I always gave Blad credit as somebody
Speaker 1: where he really was gonna put itself on the line
Speaker 1: to go be a part and get you know, information
Speaker 1: about the culture, whatever it was. And I always gave
Speaker 1: him that credit. Back then, Vlad used to do mixtapes.
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know this, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. They just think he started some interview platform
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. But this dude was really smart
Speaker 1: as a DJ. He was sharp. He could pick a
Speaker 1: good song, a good record. So he's not totally void
Speaker 1: of knowledge when it comes to hip hop, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. He's not some fool for all, Like,
Speaker 1: Vlad is very much in the know when it comes
Speaker 1: to this music shit, like when it comes to hip
Speaker 1: hop music, sure, but fast forward, it's like that his
Speaker 1: goal was always to be a part of the culture.
Speaker 1: Now because rest is sure like the culture made DJ
Speaker 1: Blad Flat TV. No question, the culture made DJ bla
Speaker 1: Blat TV, like the culture Street Urban culture made lat TV.
Speaker 1: Does he not have a right to sit at the
Speaker 1: cool table at that point if people want to use
Speaker 1: his platform? Does that make sense? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: When you have that conversation, Does that not make sense?
Speaker 1: Does he not? Did he not earn his his seat
Speaker 1: at the table?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 3: I mean it's a revolving door typically usually anyway. I mean,
Speaker 3: his career exists because of the genre, and he gained
Speaker 3: value from the genre for his own platform, but by
Speaker 3: and large, at this point in time, other individuals gained
Speaker 3: value by participating on his platform, so it's reciprocal.
Speaker 1: I agree. When you hear the term culture vulture, what
Speaker 1: kind of person do you think of? Because I'll be honest, right,
Speaker 1: I know people say that about Vlad all the time,
Speaker 1: and I don't agree with Blad says some really unsavory
Speaker 1: shit about Lewis fay Kahn, and I'm not really cool
Speaker 1: with that. You know. It's one of those things to
Speaker 1: where it's like, you know, I understand why people are upset,
Speaker 1: but I never looked at because like a culture vuture. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he always had a genuine interest in the coach of
Speaker 1: lad had a fucking black woman back then, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And I'm not saying because you get
Speaker 1: some black pussy that make you a part of said culture.
Speaker 1: But he was hell a vested in it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. He wasn't just some motherfucking But don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong. I don't think he was living the culture,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He's not living the street life,
Speaker 1: but he made it his job to cover it and
Speaker 1: back then, to put himself in danger, you know, to
Speaker 1: go see exactly what's going down. He's doing these interviews
Speaker 1: currently with different people when he's talking about the BMF dudes,
Speaker 1: and it's funny because I hear Cuz talking. He'd be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, well I did the He was talking about
Speaker 1: how he hung with be Amth for like two or
Speaker 1: three days. He's like, yeah, man, they're blowing money and
Speaker 1: they're in clubs, and you know, I know, they're not
Speaker 1: selling any records. So I had to separate myself. And
Speaker 1: I was thinking to myself, like, glad, nobody, no federal
Speaker 1: law enforcement would think you are selling drugs and a
Speaker 1: part of BMF. I don't know if it was really
Speaker 1: that that important cover. You just separate yourself into that
Speaker 1: degree outside of upcoming artist.
Speaker 2: He might have met it in the sense that he
Speaker 2: didn't want to get it is some ship that was.
Speaker 3: Not the law.
Speaker 1: I don't think Lad would have got into any ship
Speaker 1: like Vlad everybody.
Speaker 2: I just mean, you could wrong place, wrong time it,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Say that again, I just mean in a sense that
Speaker 3: he might have just meant it like you can wrong place,
Speaker 3: wrong time it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if it's even could be wrong place,
Speaker 1: the wrong time he was just talking about. He was
Speaker 1: at the club with him or at the house. Either way,
Speaker 1: no matter what happened, I don't think the fans would
Speaker 1: have thought Vlad had shipped to do with nothing. But
Speaker 1: it was fun.
Speaker 3: I mean, you running a muck through the nightclub scene
Speaker 3: with those guys in city to city, anything could happen.
Speaker 1: You gotta walk, that's the perspective. But no, that's not
Speaker 1: how it work, you know, I mean, it don't work
Speaker 1: that way. That was a case Gez being prison. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It don't work that way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But I say that to say, like, what do you
Speaker 1: feel a culture vulture is what's a culture voture by
Speaker 1: definition for you?
Speaker 3: Ah, shit, that's a pretty opaque term. It's I think
Speaker 3: a lot of the time, it's pretty much just an
Speaker 3: insult to somebody. That is, if you could say that
Speaker 3: about anybody, I guess who's crowd doesn't match their own race,
Speaker 3: if you don't like them, you know, I mean people
Speaker 3: don't say that about Eminem, but I'm sure somebody wanted
Speaker 3: to talk about Eminem. You can say the same thing
Speaker 3: about Eminem. People would resent that, people would say that's
Speaker 3: bullshit for whatever reason. But it depends on It's one
Speaker 3: of those terms. Yeah, I'm just saying, if you want
Speaker 3: to do a disc track on them, you know, you could,
Speaker 3: you can run that. You know, people don't do it,
Speaker 3: but you know, there's it depends on how you want
Speaker 3: to define it, you know.
Speaker 1: So do you feel that's a do you feel that's
Speaker 1: an applicable term? Is that? Is there really a definition
Speaker 1: for that term?
Speaker 2: Not really? I mean like there is. It's it's such
Speaker 2: a slippery slope term that it.
Speaker 3: Sort of nullifies itself. Like the best example would be
Speaker 3: like say, and this is illustrative not literal.
Speaker 1: But.
Speaker 3: Like that girl Miley Cyrus, right, if her career wasn't
Speaker 3: getting off the ground, and then she like, didn't you
Speaker 3: do a song with three six or something like that,
Speaker 3: She did a song with some rap artists, she.
Speaker 1: Changed her whole show album produced by and she did
Speaker 1: a whole album produced by Mike Will.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, if that like.
Speaker 3: Saved her fledgling career was done deliberately for that purpose,
Speaker 3: then you could say that, Yeah, she was already a
Speaker 3: big deal at the time, so it's not really you know,
Speaker 3: it's not like changed your life. Life was already pretty
Speaker 3: pretty good.
Speaker 2: Sure, But I don't know.
Speaker 1: See, when I think of culture vulture, I think of
Speaker 1: people like, let's say, post Malone, and it's because it's
Speaker 1: when people kind of they shoeshine ideas, like the first
Speaker 1: time post Malone, you know, or the first time I
Speaker 1: heard of post Malone. I mean, he probably had a
Speaker 1: follow him before. I just don't know. Was he had
Speaker 1: a song called White Iverson and he had braids to
Speaker 1: the back. He was wearing an Iverson jersey. He's doing
Speaker 1: donuts out in the middle of nowhere in the phantom.
Speaker 1: You know, he's carrying himself like he's of said culture. Now,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. I think there's plenty of white
Speaker 1: people who love Alan Iverson. I'm sure because Ai is
Speaker 1: such a fucking iconic anomaly as an athlete and as
Speaker 1: a hooper, like it's just out of this world, even
Speaker 1: as a fashion icon and what he represented to the
Speaker 1: NBA for years to come. Right, Yeah, it's another thing
Speaker 1: when you call yourself the white version of him, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And then you braid your hair
Speaker 1: to the back and you put on some loaches, some
Speaker 1: dark shades, and then like later on he comes out
Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, I'm not really a rapper or
Speaker 1: it was something loosely around he's not really down with
Speaker 1: the culture to that degree.
Speaker 2: What was it?
Speaker 3: Oh, when he said a white Iverson, I thought it
Speaker 3: was a reference to the fact that did he undergrad
Speaker 3: at Georgetown?
Speaker 1: Definitely didn't undergrad at Georgetown? Definitely didn't.
Speaker 2: That was I was wrong. I don't know his lifestyle.
Speaker 3: I don't know where he's from or is up there.
Speaker 3: I don't know nothing about the guy just knows music
Speaker 3: when the song ends. I don't know ship about him.
Speaker 3: So like, was he just a guy from god knows where?
Speaker 3: And to society you know something, I'm just gonna throw
Speaker 3: this ship together and see how it goes.
Speaker 1: Yes, and it hit for really the culture blew him up.
Speaker 1: They was like, look at this motherfucking white man. He's man,
Speaker 1: you know, just looking d man. Okay, right by crazy
Speaker 1: such a talent man.
Speaker 2: I was like, looking man.
Speaker 3: Was he like he looks like like like the dirty
Speaker 3: ass kid from a group home or something like that.
Speaker 1: He'd be looking like he'd be dazzy drugg Look that's
Speaker 1: my boy, isn't there? But see And then but later
Speaker 1: on he comes out and he's like, yo, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not down with the culture. Not those word specifically, but
Speaker 1: things to say that equip the equivalent to I'm not
Speaker 1: down with the culture. Now, he's not down with putting on.
Speaker 1: You know, he'll do songs with other rappers, you know,
Speaker 1: so people can't take the credit he puts on. You know,
Speaker 1: he's done songs with Roddy Rich, different people from the Migos,
Speaker 1: twenty one Savage, all the urban acts, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But somewhere along the line he disassociated himself
Speaker 1: with the culture, and that, to me is a culture vulture,
Speaker 1: right when you play off people's especially the culture's desire
Speaker 1: to have representation, right, because everybody knows the culture wants
Speaker 1: representation in all shades. You know, we love it in
Speaker 1: all shades. We want to be represented to see that
Speaker 1: people are down with the struggle. Right. And then so
Speaker 1: when you wake up, you're like, yeah, I'm not fucking
Speaker 1: with that that I just did that for that, I mean,
Speaker 1: to me, that's being a culture.
Speaker 2: So he's the He's like, I look at somebody like
Speaker 2: for that girl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, when I look at somebody like Jack Harlowe, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't get that, like right, I don't get don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, he raps. But I don't get a
Speaker 1: white dude trying to be black like that hair. He
Speaker 1: could do some mother shit with the hair if that
Speaker 1: was the case. I get a white dude who has
Speaker 1: probably been sitting at the cool table or he had
Speaker 1: cool friends, you know what I mean. I don't get
Speaker 1: that same thing from him. I don't even get it
Speaker 1: from eminem, you know what I mean. Like, I always
Speaker 1: respected that they I don't know if it was him
Speaker 1: or the Regulabel, but they made his hair blond. They
Speaker 1: made him a white person. Don't get me wrong, he
Speaker 1: might have had you know, some trendy gear, you know,
Speaker 1: but niggas wasn't looking at Eminem for fashion tips. So
Speaker 1: I think I enjoyed the fact that they made him
Speaker 1: a white man and let him talk about problems that
Speaker 1: the culture thinks white people have. Right, he's upset with
Speaker 1: his mother on drug or she mistreated him, or his
Speaker 1: baby mom. That was a real connecting point for certain
Speaker 1: black people. Him wanting to raise his daughter, you know.
Speaker 1: And I think you know, you was able to see
Speaker 1: that white people had problems, like they were poor. Like
Speaker 1: we love to see poor white people because it makes
Speaker 1: us realize we're not alone. But it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: we see Eminem me like, you know, he he got
Speaker 1: problems like us, right, So that was dope. But somebody
Speaker 1: like post Malone is different right where he used the
Speaker 1: culture to position himself, you know what I mean, And
Speaker 1: then now he's able to walk freely about the cabin.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what we regret the most when
Speaker 1: we do let people sit at the cool table like
Speaker 1: a machine gun. Kelly shout out to Kelly, Right, he's
Speaker 1: a really dope dude. But soon as you get in
Speaker 1: the door, you go back to being a white person. Now,
Speaker 1: you were always white, you know, even when you came in,
Speaker 1: but you tend to look like you was catering to
Speaker 1: the culture itself, like, hey, I'm a representation of this too.
Speaker 1: Like he has this really dope song east Side Till
Speaker 1: I Die About East Cleveland and it's nothing but brothers
Speaker 1: in the video. But now you're looking at this video
Speaker 1: and it's not you know it's it's it's completely different.
Speaker 1: He's completely different, and his think.
Speaker 2: Act is totally different. He's like a like a rock artist.
Speaker 1: Now shitn't yeah, And it's like the culture is tired
Speaker 1: of validating people and to be left out in the
Speaker 1: cold once you get validated. Credit to eminem Em and
Speaker 1: them stayed down. You don't see em and them out
Speaker 1: there trying to do rock albums. He ain't making no
Speaker 1: country albums. That dude is still a hip hop artist.
Speaker 1: But I think when I think of culture vultures, I
Speaker 1: think of that type of situation, specifically with post Malon,
Speaker 1: where it's like, damn, you used us to get on
Speaker 1: Like you you used a cool table to get in
Speaker 1: good with the principal, but really you went into the
Speaker 1: principal's office and start talking about the type of shit
Speaker 1: we was doing and saying you wasn't down. It brings
Speaker 1: me to my next thought. Adam twenty two. Adam twenty two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know you said you didn't know who he was,
Speaker 1: but he he's the owner of a platform, a digital
Speaker 1: platform called no Jumper. Now no Jumper is a platform
Speaker 1: that Adam twenty two was, if I understand correct, he
Speaker 1: was like a bicyclist, like a like a like a style,
Speaker 1: like a bmx GT style bicyclist. And most people don't
Speaker 1: know this, but bicyclists in Los Angeles and skaters have
Speaker 1: a deep urban tradition of street urban shit. It's not
Speaker 1: the same as like where like where I'm from and
Speaker 1: company watch. But you remember, you old enough to remember, Pete,
Speaker 1: how the skaters used to be. They were like kind
Speaker 1: of like outlaws, little thuggish kind of guy. They were
Speaker 1: really rebellious. They were ride they skateboards where they didn't
Speaker 1: have permission that they'll bust your asseside the head. They
Speaker 1: will still shot out to seven eleven. They were. They
Speaker 1: were the punk rock kids. Right. Punk rock and hip
Speaker 1: hop are step brothers. Right, it's the same same father. Right,
Speaker 1: The oppression and poverty that creates culture different mothers, different places,
Speaker 1: you know, in the community, different earths, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: you put that in different earths and it sprouts out
Speaker 1: different ways. So Adam twenty two was a bicyclist, if
Speaker 1: I remember correctly, and he started a platform, right, which
Speaker 1: is No Jumper, and he started talking to different people
Speaker 1: of cultural backgrounds mainly artists, right, and different other professionals
Speaker 1: in different fields. And when this platform first launched, it
Speaker 1: was interesting, you know what I mean. He he had
Speaker 1: a certain conversational skill, you know what I mean, He
Speaker 1: could conversate really well. He would think, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. He wasn't scared to ask hard questions. He
Speaker 1: was sharp. Well, No Jumper has evolved, and I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's evolved or devolved into either a really
Speaker 1: type of you know, it's putting culture under a different microphone,
Speaker 1: or I don't know if it's devolved into a much
Speaker 1: more primitive place where it's like all of the conversations.
Speaker 1: So let me rewind back. Hip hop itself is street
Speaker 1: urban culture personified through the arts, aka the elements. Right.
Speaker 1: Initially the elements were m sing right, djang, graffiti, graffiti
Speaker 1: and breaking be right. They added knowledge and a couple
Speaker 1: other things along the way, but it was street urban
Speaker 1: culture personified through these things because m singing existed long
Speaker 1: before hip hop. Djang existed long before hip hop, dancing
Speaker 1: existed before hip hop, even breaking existed before hip hop,
Speaker 1: and graffiti existed before hip hop. But when you put
Speaker 1: the street urban culture, the ghettos take on art in it.
Speaker 1: That's what made it hip hop. Right, So adam twenty two.
Speaker 1: Obviously with Showcase artistic you know people the artists that
Speaker 1: express street urban culture. That's how you know, I remember
Speaker 1: his platform initially. Fast forward when in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: At this point, Bro, he's just showing street urban culture.
Speaker 1: They are not artists. They're not personifying it through art
Speaker 1: or brilliance of excellence. It's just a culture. Like instead
Speaker 1: of getting at one time, you would have had to
Speaker 1: go get you know, if you wanted a representation of
Speaker 1: the West Side South Central experience, you would have to
Speaker 1: talk to Corrupt, right, you had to talk to dub C.
Speaker 3: You had to talk to So he's not finding rappers
Speaker 3: no more, he's just finding any old gangster.
Speaker 1: Now he's just finding crips, gotcha, Okay, just crips. You
Speaker 1: know what? I mean and or blue or po roots, right,
Speaker 1: and I liking hip hop to soul food, right, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's you can cook anything in a soul way, right,
Speaker 1: like soul food right started off like slave food. Right.
Speaker 1: The worst of the vegetables, the greens, right, that was
Speaker 1: the worst you had to You had to fucking boil
Speaker 1: them bitches forever to just get them tender. Right. You
Speaker 1: you take the tail of the cow right in the oxtail, right,
Speaker 1: that's the tail of the cow. Right, pig, any part
Speaker 1: because pigs are cheap, right, any part cooked them a
Speaker 1: certain way because you wanted them to be flavorful, so
Speaker 1: you would really over season them because that made them
Speaker 1: digestible and delicious to the to the palate. So I
Speaker 1: like him to think hip hop as soulful. You know,
Speaker 1: you cook a certain thing in the way you cook it.
Speaker 1: Soul food is always being expanded, right, Like like you
Speaker 1: ever seen black people tacos, We call them nigga tacos.
Speaker 1: That's soulfuld, right. We Friday shells, the ground meat that
Speaker 1: soul food, you know, invented over the last forty years.
Speaker 1: A spaghetro, you know ghetto spaghetti where you actually cook
Speaker 1: the damn noodles in the sauce. That's soul fool, right.
Speaker 1: So soul food always was a twist on cuisine, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It wasn't about the actual particular
Speaker 1: food item as much as it was about how we
Speaker 1: cooked the food item. Right. So it was again back
Speaker 1: to the point of soul food being this overseasoned thing
Speaker 1: to make really bad food digestible, like horrible you know,
Speaker 1: vegetables digestible, you know, at that degree Adam twenty two,
Speaker 1: at this point is just selling the seasoning like a
Speaker 1: tablespoon of salt. Sol hip hop in its earliest you know,
Speaker 1: its in its infancy, and even coming into the two
Speaker 1: thousands when you would die just hip hop, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Don't get me wrong, If you keep
Speaker 1: eating this shit for sixty seventy years, you might have
Speaker 1: a fucking heart attack or some diabetes or shit, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Because it is overseason right, sure,
Speaker 1: but at least it carried you along the way, right,
Speaker 1: It connected you to your people, It connected you to
Speaker 1: the struggle, right, and it still had nourishing elements. It
Speaker 1: still was a nourishing meal. It might have you didn't
Speaker 1: get you know, the greatest years, all the hundred years
Speaker 1: of life, because you know, you didn't get the best stuff,
Speaker 1: but it still had nourishment. Adam and no Jumper, they're
Speaker 1: selling a tablespoon of fucking salt. There is no nourishment.
Speaker 1: You don't listen and get information that is substantial to
Speaker 1: your life like you would out of hip hop, where
Speaker 1: you could get some stuff to get you through hard days,
Speaker 1: not only just you know, tough times or attitude, but
Speaker 1: things that really made you feel like he wasn't alone
Speaker 1: in the world. At this point, Couz is selling straight
Speaker 1: fucking seasoning like he's like a tablespoon of old bay.
Speaker 1: So there is no nourishment with it, right. But I
Speaker 1: say all that to say, you know, because he understands
Speaker 1: what he's selling, and I can respect his business mind,
Speaker 1: but at this point, cause it's causing so much drama,
Speaker 1: Like my little cousin in Georgia was like, oh, why
Speaker 1: you don't want to talk about it? Like she sent
Speaker 1: me a message, and I'm like, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I agree with the thought that Adam twenty two is
Speaker 1: a culture vulture bro, Like I don't, like, I don't
Speaker 1: agree with what he's doing as far as how he's
Speaker 1: being irresponsible with this type of information that has cost
Speaker 1: hundreds to thousands of men in their lives cuz. But
Speaker 1: I also don't know if he's wrong for having a
Speaker 1: platform if you want to go on there and express
Speaker 1: that's what's on your mind. I'm not quite sure if
Speaker 1: he's a culture vuture because he's providing a platform that
Speaker 1: people want to talk, you know on Because I've been
Speaker 1: on Adam twenty two's podcast the early in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: I did another no Jumper, I did three or four
Speaker 1: different no Jumper things, and I've never said anything that
Speaker 1: created a problem in Los Angeles because obviously I'm being
Speaker 1: responsible for what I say, and if I wanted to
Speaker 1: make a problem, I will call the specific artist or
Speaker 1: whichever community I have an issue with and make a
Speaker 1: real problem right there, not to go on a public
Speaker 1: platform and try to shame anybody. So I don't know
Speaker 1: how I feel. Is he a culture vulture or is
Speaker 1: people you know, the same poverty and oppression that makes
Speaker 1: people want to share their story so they can feel
Speaker 1: like they matter, you know what I mean? Like, don't
Speaker 1: I don't know which way am I going left for right?
Speaker 2: I don't think he's a culture vulture. I just think.
Speaker 3: He's at the He just happens to have decided I'm
Speaker 3: going to open up shop at the intersection of opportunism.
Speaker 1: You have.
Speaker 2: He figured out, well we get the most uh.
Speaker 3: Virality through because it's like, I'm pretty damn sure.
Speaker 2: The way it went down was as follows.
Speaker 3: Okay, I got an hour long interview with artists A, B, C, D, E.
Speaker 1: FG.
Speaker 2: Of all the five minute.
Speaker 3: Clips we put out, the ones that served the most
Speaker 3: were the ones where they were talking about drama. And
Speaker 3: there's an app there's always there's an appetite for drama
Speaker 3: with that fan base. Well, let's just skip the artists
Speaker 3: and go straight to the drama. I wonder if those
Speaker 3: guys want to talk and they just get the fucking line.
Speaker 3: Of course, I've never been fansed before. I got all
Speaker 3: this local value, but I don't have any brand value.
Speaker 3: Let me jump right on in. This will be fantastic,
Speaker 3: you know. And it's just.
Speaker 2: I don't think I don't think necessarily that.
Speaker 1: Ship. And people are saying he's playing puppet master, like
Speaker 1: they're like, guys, he's playing puppet master, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: is he really like, could he really pull the strings
Speaker 1: of these people. I don't believe that.
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that. I don't think he can get
Speaker 1: these motherfuckers to do nothing. Mule the most well, I
Speaker 1: think the same desire because to matter right, fame drives
Speaker 1: everything on every level.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure so famous for it's just nothing. It's like
Speaker 2: free money without the paper.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I just don't know exactly. Again, like
Speaker 1: when I don't agree with what's happening, I just don't participate.
Speaker 1: Like I don't agree with the direction when it comes
Speaker 1: to handling Los Angeles street urban culture with care, so
Speaker 1: I just won't take part in it, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? And if I seen if I seen him,
Speaker 1: I would speak to him like, hey man, you shouldn't
Speaker 1: do it like that. I don't like how you handling
Speaker 1: the street shit, bro, I don't like how you handling this,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I would tell him that,
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to demand he stopped it, because he's not twisting none
Speaker 1: of these niggas arms to go over there and be
Speaker 1: a part of it, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 1: some people saying, you know he's giving people opportunity. It
Speaker 1: has value for him, you know what I mean, if
Speaker 1: given opportunity has value for you. I don't even know
Speaker 1: if that's really even given opportunity. But I also can't
Speaker 1: be I can't say that you're just using people, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like, give an opportunity. So I
Speaker 1: just was thinking about it, and of course Adam and
Speaker 1: Vlad want to sit at the fucking cool table. There's
Speaker 1: no way in the fucking world they were sitting at
Speaker 1: no cool table before now. If they would have came
Speaker 1: to the cool table years ago, man, before any of
Speaker 1: this shit, bro, they have a fucking problem. But now
Speaker 1: they have something of value to the table itself, to
Speaker 1: the people that sit at the table, because at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, that people sitting at the table,
Speaker 1: they don't even want to be poor or forced to
Speaker 1: have to do the stuff that make them cool in
Speaker 1: the first place, like we all forced to do the shit.
Speaker 1: Niggas don't want to have to sell dope. Niggas be
Speaker 1: selling dope. It's the best trade going on in the
Speaker 1: community at the time. You know what I mean that
Speaker 1: people that we know are involved in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they they gentrified the table. They showed
Speaker 3: up with some money, and some people decided, you know,
Speaker 3: if you're gonna give me the money, I'll sell the house.
Speaker 1: To shame. And they are selling the houses and now
Speaker 1: they own the block. And I listened to them talk
Speaker 1: and they act they're like, yeah, you know you they
Speaker 1: feel like they are. And the crazy part is they
Speaker 1: really feel like they are friends with these people. And
Speaker 1: I'm laughing like, oh, really know, that's not how this works.
Speaker 3: Well, I've seen this guy. I've seen his face circle
Speaker 3: around social media enough times. I think he's from from Nickerson.
Speaker 3: Kind of an older dude. I got tattoos on his face,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm talking about, even Bounty hunters, right, No.
Speaker 1: You talking about bj Nino Cappuccino. I don't think that's older.
Speaker 3: He is he older older, older, Yeah, balhead, No, you
Speaker 3: got hair, kind of smaller, smaller, darker, sing guy.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I was using him as an example because I'm like.
Speaker 1: That guy.
Speaker 3: I don't know him for having done anything but spoken
Speaker 3: on people's you know, video streaming platforms about hoodship. Been
Speaker 3: doing it for a long ass time. He didn't parlay
Speaker 3: it into a record or nothing like that. So if
Speaker 3: they you know, bump shoulders at some point in time,
Speaker 3: and you figured out who that guy was, got his
Speaker 3: information that.
Speaker 2: He didn't pause for two seconds.
Speaker 3: When whoever the first person was that asked him to
Speaker 3: come to an interview, you know, if he did pause
Speaker 3: for two seconds, it was two seconds and then he
Speaker 3: did the interview.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I mean, well, this is the thing, right,
Speaker 1: like the thing about the hood, you know, the cool
Speaker 1: table is there's two things that fuel it, right, being
Speaker 1: a man and being the man. Right, the easiest way
Speaker 1: to feel like a man and the man is a
Speaker 1: woman and you worthy of giving you her body. Now,
Speaker 1: obviously in twenty twenty four we probably shouldn't think that,
Speaker 1: but most men still can't help it. You feel like
Speaker 1: if you are her thirty ninth choice of peeni, she
Speaker 1: is taking you somehow, feel like you are special.
Speaker 2: But I was better than that other guy today.
Speaker 1: Right, you feel you feel like you're special? Right, So
Speaker 1: accountability and problem solving are the other ways, right, accountability
Speaker 1: and problem solving. It's why when people go to prison
Speaker 1: and they come home after doing ten years and they
Speaker 1: are alive, and they are themselves, and they went and
Speaker 1: did their time. You know, people from the community is
Speaker 1: proud that they went to prison, versus understanding that they
Speaker 1: were saying. The real conversation is, I was accountable for
Speaker 1: my actions and I went and paid for I went
Speaker 1: and paid for what I did the correct way without
Speaker 1: making sure anybody else got in trouble because of what
Speaker 1: happen with me. Right, So there's a pride in that
Speaker 1: sense of accountability. Right, he's like me, I walked off.
Speaker 1: But that's what they say, I walked off ten years
Speaker 1: I went, did my time. I didn't, you know, telling
Speaker 1: somebody else to not, you know, be accountable. But when
Speaker 1: they don't use that term, people mistaken and automatically start
Speaker 1: thinking that, oh, well, they're proud because they went to jail. No,
Speaker 1: they're proud because they're accepted. They accepted their responsibility. They
Speaker 1: was accountable for whatever they did and the time that
Speaker 1: they would have to serve, whether or not they still
Speaker 1: saying they innocent or guilty. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They went and accepted the accountability of what needed to
Speaker 1: happen and went and did it like a man. That's
Speaker 1: what they're proud of. Right, and problem solving, which is
Speaker 1: why people go out to ball, Right, people want to
Speaker 1: make money because they want to solve people problems. But
Speaker 1: the two fastest way to feel like a man is
Speaker 1: pussy and money, of course, and it is rooted in
Speaker 1: three different things, pussy, money, and respect. Right. So you
Speaker 1: have two different type of people in the ghetto when
Speaker 1: it comes to becoming a man. Right. You have the
Speaker 1: guys that want to go out and hustle and make money. Right,
Speaker 1: that's their goal of literally, you know, becoming a problem solver.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna solve my mother's problem of poverty. Right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go make this money, and I'm gonna make some money,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be able to help people and help
Speaker 1: my people and help myself and feed myself. My mama
Speaker 1: not gonna be you know, she's not gonna be on
Speaker 1: section eight Da da dah. Right. And then you have
Speaker 1: the other one, right, which is the warriors who go
Speaker 1: out in the street and be like, when you say
Speaker 1: my name, you're gonna have to respect me as a
Speaker 1: man because I've went and faced all adversities. I was
Speaker 1: accountable for everything that happened in this community, and I
Speaker 1: went and faced everything head on and did whatever it
Speaker 1: took for our survival. Now some people may think I
Speaker 1: make it sound noble, but it's not. It's really the
Speaker 1: issues of being poor, right, It's a very primitive mindset.
Speaker 1: When resources are scarce and fought over, it goes into
Speaker 1: a real primitive mindset, like a fucking komodo dragon eating
Speaker 1: a fucking baby goat. You know, it gets primitive. What
Speaker 1: we hope is the sophistication of being humans kick in.
Speaker 1: But without resources, without you know, without things that you need, right,
Speaker 1: without things that you need, the simple survival things that
Speaker 1: you need, right, you go into a very primitive space
Speaker 1: and it really will turn into those two things, that
Speaker 1: warrior mindset or I'm gonna get money. And then you
Speaker 1: got crazy dudes who do both. You know, that's their thing.
Speaker 1: So in that goal of being somebody, you know, the
Speaker 1: way you become somebody in the community is by standing
Speaker 1: up and being a trooper a soldier. Right, But everybody
Speaker 1: wants you to know who they are. They want to
Speaker 1: be revered. They want a lot of it is because
Speaker 1: they don't want to keep getting into shit, so they
Speaker 1: want their reputation to carry so they don't have to
Speaker 1: do anything stupid no more. And I think that's where
Speaker 1: platforms like no Jumper and Flag come into where people
Speaker 1: finally feel like somebody else is listening. Because that type
Speaker 1: of poverty is hella isolating, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: It's a serious isolation. You don't know shit three miles
Speaker 1: away from you. Because the world of Watts felt so
Speaker 1: big to most of my own boys, like they never
Speaker 1: would have went outside or Compton. They never went outside
Speaker 1: these places because poverty does not allow a freedom to
Speaker 1: travel about the cabin mentally, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's still only a dollar thirty at that time to
Speaker 1: ride a bus and get a couple of transfers and
Speaker 1: go anywhere you want. But you wouldn't believe this existed
Speaker 1: because you were told people didn't want you other places.
Speaker 1: You know, you didn't want to go somewhere without money,
Speaker 1: not knowing the value of seeing other things and what
Speaker 1: it could do to your mind. You know, it's a
Speaker 1: cage poverty and cage pete. And this is like all
Speaker 1: the times we be talking over four you know, three
Speaker 1: or four seasons, and I've been trying to get you
Speaker 1: to see it because it's so hard to imagine what
Speaker 1: it feels like or to listen to your friends talk
Speaker 1: about it. And it almost seems defeating, like where it's like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, it can't be that bad. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: it's that bad. So when they have an opportunity to
Speaker 1: garner some sense of fame, which that's normal for more humans,
Speaker 1: not for people to know who they are and know
Speaker 1: their story, and somebody saying, hey, we want you to
Speaker 1: come on a platform and express who you are and
Speaker 1: what you've been through, it's like a fucking therapist, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? That people gonna hear your story
Speaker 1: and see value in you, and it's like a fucking therapist.
Speaker 1: Except somewhere along the line, motherfuckers forget they are talking
Speaker 1: to tens of thousands and not hundreds of thousands of
Speaker 1: people people, So they preaching and talking to this nigga
Speaker 1: right to Adam or to any of his guest hosts
Speaker 1: like they're talking to a therapist, not realizing and as
Speaker 1: silly as it sound, not realizing this shit is gonna
Speaker 1: be heard by hundreds of thousands that maybe millions of people.
Speaker 1: But that's the mind state that that bread the culture.
Speaker 1: You know, it has to come with some other type
Speaker 1: of traumas where there's not a true understanding of what's
Speaker 1: happening here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that kind of brings Because we were talking,
Speaker 3: I was thinking, well, yeah, the reason I wouldn't call
Speaker 3: those guys at least Adam or culture vultures because there's
Speaker 3: value being gained by the people who come on the show.
Speaker 3: Granted he gets more in the aggregate, but to suggest
Speaker 3: that would be the suggest that he's manipula and exploiting
Speaker 3: these people that are pretty savvy people, you know, Like
Speaker 3: it was, it's like you you gotta say to say
Speaker 3: he's exploiting somebody, you gotta say that person got exploit.
Speaker 2: There's no way around it.
Speaker 1: I guess that's the real question. Is he exploiting the culture?
Speaker 1: What's the definition? Let me see, what's the definition of exploit?
Speaker 1: The question is like, let's say something.
Speaker 3: If he's exploiting the culture, he's doing so via the audience,
Speaker 3: not via the guest.
Speaker 1: And that for you of and derived benefit from a resource.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, I mean I sounded like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's always a negative connotation around stuff.
Speaker 1: That's the standard definition. But to exploit someone, to use
Speaker 1: someone or something unfairly for your own advantage. Unfairly is
Speaker 1: the word. Yeah, is he using street urban culture unfairly.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's using street urban culture unfairly.
Speaker 3: One thing that I'll say is a fair question, at
Speaker 3: least to me, is and like, just personally, I in
Speaker 3: general am not I'm kind of a you know, microadvocate
Speaker 3: of the disproportional representation of poor black people as criminals.
Speaker 2: So to continue to.
Speaker 3: Always amplify people from a certain area as being in
Speaker 3: trust in crime in such a carte blanche fashion, I
Speaker 3: feel like does a disservice to the majority population of
Speaker 3: those areas that are not involved. So I think that
Speaker 3: there might be something to that, But I'm always I'm
Speaker 3: always kind of keen on that anyway, So I'm a
Speaker 3: little biased maybe in that regard, sure, But.
Speaker 2: I don't know. To me, it's hard to say.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it would be more so on
Speaker 3: the audience side than on necessarily who comes on the
Speaker 3: shows side.
Speaker 1: So you know what, I guess that's the question we
Speaker 1: really need to ask ourselves. Is Adam twenty two or
Speaker 1: dj vladd using street urban culture unfairly? That's the real question.
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