1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sam. This is John the og story 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Time packcast host. 3 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and we got some great stories coming up. 4 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 3: But before that, we get a teeny two minute break 5 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 3: from the sponsors that keep this show propped up like 6 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 3: a little house. 7 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 4: Oh you, I won't let my sister attend her own 8 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 4: son's wedding. 9 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: Can you break down that family tree for me again? 10 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 4: Trigger warning grief and substance abuse. I'm a forty seven female. 11 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 4: My nephew, Joey twenty one, is getting married in two 12 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 4: weeks and his mother, Judy, forty five, is trying to come, 13 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 4: but I've adamantly told her not to come because of 14 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 4: how much crap she's put him through in recent years. 15 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 4: By the way, this comes from Aunt Undertaker. And if 16 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 4: you want to submit your own stories, go to the 17 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 4: r slash Okay, Storytime suvered it. 18 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:44,639 Speaker 1: I'm Sophia, I'm. 19 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 2: Riley, and I'm Keon. Introduced Chip and this is Jee. 20 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 4: You can't hear him though, and OHP says when Joey 21 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 4: was eighteen, he was in a car accident with his father. 22 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 4: His father passed away a few days later. I know 23 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 4: all of this was triggered by my sister's grief and 24 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 4: trying to be mindful of that. First, she purposely missed 25 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 4: his high school graduation because she couldn't imagine being there 26 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 4: without his father. So now he doesn't get either of 27 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 4: his parents there. 28 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's his fault. 29 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 4: Joey was understanding, and thankfully me and his girlfriend now 30 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 4: fiance's family were there for him. Judy insisted on still 31 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 4: hosting a graduation party a week or so later. I 32 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 4: would be so upset I wasn't able to get there 33 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 4: until the end. When I got there, most of the 34 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 4: guests had left, and Judy was a wasted mess and 35 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 4: was wailing about her husband's passing. I told Joey to 36 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 4: pack a bag and to come to my house for 37 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 4: the week, which he did. Judy swore she would do 38 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 4: better and begged him to come back home, which again 39 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 4: he did. A couple months went by and Joey asked 40 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 4: if I could drive him to work because his car 41 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 4: had been totaled. He looked terrible when I got him, 42 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 4: so I asked him what was up. He said he 43 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 4: had been working seventy hours a week because Judy had 44 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 4: gotten laid off. I asked him how his car got 45 00:01:55,720 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 4: totaled and He said, Judy had crashed it driving intoxicated. 46 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 4: You gotta get him out of there. You have to 47 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 4: get him out of there. At that point, our mom 48 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 4: and I sat down with her to try to get 49 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 4: her into some sort of treatment or counseling, and she agreed, 50 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 4: but we later learned she never went. I take partial 51 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 4: responsibility for not following up. Yeah, you have to follow 52 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 4: up on those things. 53 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: In a way. I have to, Yeah, because now you 54 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: were basically his father figure and parent in a way 55 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: because this woman, he's a woman. Oh still be a 56 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: father figure? Sure is it a woman? 57 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 4: It's a woman. 58 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: Okay, Well you're still you're a parent figure in this 59 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: child's life growing into an adult, and you probably need 60 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: to step up. You don't have to, but you can 61 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: be the angel and step up and take care because 62 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: he's there, just dead and the other one just cannot function. 63 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. Some months later, Joey called me again, this time 64 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 4: for a ride to the courthouse to get Judy out 65 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 4: of jail. All he said was she had gotten wasted 66 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 4: and got herself arrested. I begged him to come stay 67 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 4: with me, but Judy insisted she would get help if 68 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 4: he would stay and help her. Which he did. I 69 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 4: would call and talk to Joey once or twice a 70 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 4: week to make sure he and Judy were safe. She 71 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 4: didn't go into treatment, but he said things had calmed down. 72 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 4: After a few months, he stopped responding to calls and 73 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 4: only sent short text responses. Some time later those stopped too. 74 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 4: Throughout all this he has been supported by his fiance. 75 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 4: I started getting my updates on Joey's well being through 76 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 4: her occasional social media posts. They got engaged, and her 77 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 4: family is paying for the small, intimate wedding and reception 78 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 4: they've chosen to have. As far as I knew, things 79 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 4: were better, he seemed happy in her posts. I was 80 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 4: blindsided about two weeks ago when Joey's fiance called me. 81 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 4: She said Joey needed my help and asked if she 82 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 4: could drive him over to my house. When they got there, 83 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 4: he was shaking, hyperventilating, and threw up multiple times. When 84 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 4: he finally calmed down, he said his mother had gone 85 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 4: into a wasted rage some weeks ago and started trying 86 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 4: to rip and burn everything left of her husband's. 87 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yikes. 88 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 4: This is concerning Get Joey out of there. 89 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: I get grieving. She needs a lot of help too. 90 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 4: I mean, she's clearly spiraling. 91 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: She's spiraling, she's being dependent on adult drinks. 92 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 4: She's also dependent on her son way more than she 93 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 4: should be for his age, you know, like dependent on it, 94 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 4: like saying like, oh, if you help me, then I'll 95 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 4: get better, like putting all that kind of emotional baggage 96 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 4: on him. When Joey stopped her, she started wrecking his stuff. 97 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 4: Joey said, this has been going on for months, and 98 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 4: the night prior to his girlfriend bringing him home, sorry, 99 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 4: bringing him to me, he came home and found that 100 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 4: she had burned all of his father's pictures, old clothes, everything. 101 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 4: What oh, he's got to get out of there. I 102 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 4: went to confront Judy. She agreed once again to enter treatment, 103 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 4: and this time she followed through. Joey has been staying 104 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 4: with me since. Every time I ask about the wedding 105 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 4: or his girlfriend goes over plans with him, he turns 106 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 4: pale and miserable. I asked him, what was up with that? 107 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 4: You wouldn't really answer, but I asked if it was 108 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 4: because of his mom. I asked if he wanted her 109 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 4: off the guest list. He didn't have an n M 110 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 4: to flat out say yes, but the look on his 111 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 4: face said it all. Judy called him earlier today, gushing 112 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 4: about how excited she is for the wedding and that 113 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,559 Speaker 4: she's picked out her dress and wants a mother groom dance. 114 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 4: Joey told her not to come. She went all weepy 115 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 4: and started begging, I don't him. I yeah, I mean 116 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 4: just over and uh there is a trigger warning this 117 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 4: kiddic caut. We did that at the beginning of the story. Yeh, 118 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 4: that's so yeah, I mean over and over again. She 119 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 4: has proven that she is not you know, she cannot 120 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 4: be there for him in any way, so of course 121 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 4: he doesn't trust her. 122 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: Now. 123 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: I imagine she gets through the wedding and they say 124 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: something about the fathers. 125 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 4: And she just goes off. Yeah, he doesn't want to 126 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 4: risk it, which is so fair. At that point, I 127 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 4: asked him to give me the phone and I flat 128 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 4: out told her that if she sets foot in that wedding, 129 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 4: I will personally drag her out of it. This has 130 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 4: caused a stir in our family. Our other siblings think 131 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 4: I have influenced Joey and I should convince him to 132 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 4: let her come if she promises to behave. I told 133 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 4: him all that, since they've helped him very little and 134 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 4: don't know his side of things, that they can kiss 135 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 4: my butt, am I the ale? No, this is what 136 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 4: Joey wants. 137 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: This is what Joey wants. And good on? Is that right? Chip? 138 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 2: That's what it made? A noise chip made like a 139 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: heigh squeak. 140 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 4: I don't know if he wants. 141 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: I think he's comfortable. 142 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 2: I think he likes that. He does have a lot 143 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: of Actually. 144 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: Take a little line, anyway. 145 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: You've been yawning a bunch, buddy. Have you not been sleeping? 146 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: All he has been every time I see was on 147 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: the white couch and he looks like he's a little 148 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: drunk like But good on you, Yes by Joey. Because 149 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: Joey needs some unconditional love. I don't. I wouldn't say 150 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: his mom doesn't love him. 151 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 4: She's just she's not she's not stable, you know what? Actual, 152 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 4: And he needs a stable parental figure in his life. 153 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, and loving someone is stabilized. 154 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 4: Anyway, comments not the Ahle. Judy has proven time and 155 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 4: time again, at every given opportunity, that she can't control 156 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 4: her behavior and turns every occasion into a self inflicted 157 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 4: pity party, making the events all about her instead of 158 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 4: celebrating Joey. Joey had to go through these milestones without 159 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 4: his dad and with a mom who is too wrapped 160 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 4: up in her misery to take care of him. Joey's 161 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 4: lucky to have you and his fiance in his life. 162 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 4: His mother should be ashamed of herself, as should all 163 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 4: the family members who think he should ignore her past 164 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 4: track record and invite her to the wedding. Because family, 165 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 4: Joey deserves a happy wedding. Thank you for helping him 166 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 4: and his fiance. CO two, I'm with you. She doesn't 167 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 4: deserve to get within a mile of that wedding, and 168 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 4: if any of your family say otherwise, tell him to 169 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 4: bite me. Where were you when I was dealing with 170 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 4: this crap show for the last three years? Yeah, dude, 171 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 4: hold on Comma three. You've mentioned trying to get your 172 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 4: sister some help with her issues, which is great. My 173 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 4: question is has your nephew gotten any help for his 174 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 4: own grief of basically losing both parents. I have a 175 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 4: parent with a substance abuse problem and know how harp 176 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 4: breaking it is to watch someone you love spiral and 177 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 4: not being able to stop it. He needs to put 178 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 4: his oxygen mask on first, and will probably need help 179 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 4: doing that. You can love someone to the core but 180 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 4: not like them or their behavior or be able to 181 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 4: keep them in your life. It is hard and sad, 182 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 4: but your nephew needs to give himself the gift of 183 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 4: peace in his own mind in life. Maybe their relationship 184 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 4: can be prepared someday if she gets help, but the 185 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 4: best thing for him is to focus on getting solid 186 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 4: ground underneath them. 187 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: That's I've never really thought of that. 188 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 4: I agree with that commentary, he says. I'm not sure. 189 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 4: I know when he was working every waking hour of 190 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 4: the day, he probably wasn't and there is an update, 191 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 4: But yeah, absolutely get this kid into therapy. 192 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: He needs it. 193 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 4: He needs it. 194 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: I mean, he's. 195 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 4: Lost kind of a lot in the past couple of years. 196 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: And he's working himself too. 197 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 4: And also trying to take care of his mom. Like 198 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 4: it's not even you haven't lost your mom, but because 199 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 4: she's still there and she's still kind of actively making 200 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 4: your life much much harder, you know, I think you've 201 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 4: lost her as a mother figure. 202 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you haven't lost the person, but you have 203 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: lost your mom. 204 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 4: Well, My point though, is like it's a little bit 205 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 4: different than him losing his dad because she's still there 206 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 4: making his life harder. 207 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I meant like, you lost the support of 208 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: a mother, but you didn't your mom's still there, but 209 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: you lost your mother. No. 210 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 4: I agree, update, things have still been hard, but I'll 211 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 4: try to be brief. 212 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: Oh boy. 213 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 4: First, joe spent two days stomach sick, but kept working 214 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 4: so he could pay his mom's mortgage one more time. 215 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this poor kid. 216 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 4: So that was lovely for him. Judy and I went 217 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 4: back and forth about trying to get his things back. 218 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 4: I was planning on going with Joey to get his 219 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 4: things with the police yesterday. The police said Joey had 220 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 4: to be there since it is his property. However, Judy 221 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 4: insisted that she had taken everything to a dumpster and 222 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 4: not to bother Oh gosh. I asked Joey what he 223 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 4: wanted to do in case she was lying, and he 224 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 4: said not to go since there wasn't anything very valuable 225 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 4: or that he couldn't live without. Then she had the 226 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 4: nerve to text him last night asking one more time 227 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 4: to reconsider allowing her to come to the wedding. When 228 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 4: he didn't respond, she said he was not just being 229 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 4: hateful to her, but also to his late father because, 230 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 4: as she put it, having me there is like having 231 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 4: him there in spirit. But why haven't you been on 232 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 4: any of the other, you know, things in his life. 233 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: I'm just no, matter what happens, she's gonna find a 234 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: way to throw herself. She's gonna make it about herself, yeah, 235 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: to look bad, and that everyone should help her out. 236 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: And it's crazy because Joey is helping her out, but 237 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like that's enough, and I don't think 238 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: there will be anything ever enough. 239 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 4: Nope, And she's she's in the spiral and she needs 240 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 4: to help herself get out of it before. 241 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: And I think she likes staying in it because this 242 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: is her way of grieving, and it's sort of her 243 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: way to cope with it instead of healthily. 244 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: I agree. 245 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 4: Joey said no and finally put his foot down, telling 246 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 4: her that her bills were paid for the month and 247 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 4: that he's blocking her. I sent her a heck of 248 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 4: a message myself that I don't regret, and haven't heard 249 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 4: from her at all today. I will not be blocking her, 250 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 4: despite how some readers might feel I do care about 251 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 4: her and want to check in to make sure she 252 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 4: is safe. Joey's been moving his fiance into their apartment today. 253 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 4: I've checked in a couple of times and he says 254 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 4: it's going well. Sent me a picture of them smiling 255 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 4: with moving boxes. Is proof. Good on UOP for being 256 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 4: there for Joey because he needs that. 257 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: Thank you for being the aunt that. 258 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: You steps up and like the mom pretty much. 259 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we have Chip chasing his toe, get. 260 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 4: It, get it, geddy, gedy needy? 261 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: There he has in his mouth? Now can we see that? 262 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 4: No? Dang it? And for anyone wondering, I have asked 263 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 4: a friend who is a retired officer to come to 264 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 4: the wedding to watch for Granted she doesn't have a 265 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 4: car right now. The venue is also aware. I feel 266 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 4: okay about that, but honestly, I feel like I'm going 267 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 4: to have a hard time watching the ceremony and not 268 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 4: being out there myself keeping watch. But I'm gonna try. 269 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 4: My dang artist, Judy knows not to cross me like that, 270 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 4: so I know seeing me at the door will turn 271 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 4: her away, but hopefully that won't even be necessary. And 272 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 4: that is the end of the story, folks is gracious. 273 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 4: I hope that won't be necessary either. 274 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: Good luck O be good luck on man. And oh, 275 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: I know that wedding day is going to be tough. 276 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: And also I am cute. You're seeing what Joey and 277 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: Judy's relationship will be after he gets married, and I 278 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: don't think there's really much the salvage until she decides 279 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: to actually get help herself. 280 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 4: I agree. I mean until she actively goes to therapy 281 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 4: and unlearns all these toxic behaviors, there's just no relationship there. 282 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: Agreed. But guys, we got another very happy story. 283 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 4: But we got another story. 284 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: I left my best friend's wedding halfway through. 285 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 4: Was it boring? 286 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: I twenty five female have been best friends with Kara 287 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: twenty six females since we were like thirteen. We've been 288 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: through everything, high school drama, bad breakups, moving to different cities, 289 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: all of it. When she got engaged last year, I 290 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: was genuinely thrilled for her. She asked me to be 291 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: the maid of honor, and I said yes without even 292 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: thinking lovely. Maybe you should have thought about it. By 293 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: the way, this comes from Enthusiastic Tree twenty eight and 294 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: if you want to smit your own stories, go to 295 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: the gard So I show okay story to I'm Subreddit, 296 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: I'm Riley. 297 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 2: I'm Sophia, and I'm Keon. 298 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: We have Chip here with us, and oh Pie says, 299 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: now here's where things get messy. Kara met her now husband, 300 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: Evan about three years ago. I've never been his biggest fan, 301 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: not because he's done anything terrible to me personally, but 302 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: because he has his way of subtly belittaling Kara in 303 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: front of people, like she tells a story and then 304 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: I'll cut in with best know how it happened or 305 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: you're being dramatic. I've brought it up to her before 306 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: urgently and she just says that's how he jokes. Mm, fine, whatever, 307 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: okay lean me. Up to the wedding, I was heavily 308 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: involved planning the bachelorette, running errands, making sure she ate 309 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 1: on the day off because she was stressed as heck. 310 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: The actual wedding started fine, but little things started to 311 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: pile up. First, Kara's mom pulled me aside in the 312 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: morning and basically told me not to outshine the bride 313 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: in any way. 314 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 4: I'm presumably she's wearing the dress that y'all gave her. 315 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: I was wearing the dress Kara pit so that threw 316 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: me off. 317 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 4: I'd be like, ah am, I supposed to change. I'm confused. 318 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 4: Do I look good? Is that what you're saying? 319 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: Thank you? Put hat on. Then at the reception, Evan 320 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: gave his speech and thanked his brother, who he said 321 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: was basically the best man and made of honor combined. 322 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 4: I'd be like, uh, excuse me, I look at my 323 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 4: best friend. I say, you go. You would have let 324 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 4: him say that. 325 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you could make a joke in your speech, 326 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: being like I am the best man, am made of honor, 327 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: and then joke and then he's not gonna take it well. 328 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm like the best man and the 329 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 4: maid of honor combined. 330 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 5: And then they're like, how dary, Yeah yeah, that's exactly 331 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 5: how it goes. 332 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: He didn't mention me at all. I laughed it off 333 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: because maybe it was just nerves. But I saw a 334 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: couple of people at my table give each other a look, 335 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: you're the buquet toss Kara jokingly aimed it directly at 336 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: her cousin instead of tossing it normally. Then it turned 337 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: to me said loud enough for people to hear, Well, 338 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: you'll be single forever anyway, and everyone started laughing too. 339 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 4: A wow, if my friend said that, I'll start crying 340 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 4: and you do that like that. If my friends said that, 341 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 4: I'd be sobbing, I'd immediately I wouldn't be able to 342 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 4: stop it either. I'd be like you saying, dude. 343 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: If my friend said that, I'd be like, at least 344 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: I don't got a ball and train. 345 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 4: No, dang, you don't have a lot of work with 346 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 4: you gotta be quick with them, you really do. 347 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: I laughed it off, but it kind of hurt. The 348 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: final straw was during the dancing. I was at the 349 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: bar chatting up with a mutual friend. Then Evan's brother 350 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: came up to me and said, Hey, I told me 351 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: to tell you not to hog the tension on the 352 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: dance floor. You're making her uncomfortable. So man, I'm just 353 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: throwing ass like it's there's no dear. 354 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 4: You can't do a single thing right. 355 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: So what those girls the other day they were going 356 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: at it? 357 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, fun, Yeah, they were fun. We went to 358 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 4: the concert. The show that we went to on the 359 00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 4: rooftop bar. 360 00:15:59,120 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: M hmm, yeah. 361 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 4: We met these two girls, and they were so fun. 362 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: They were dancing it up right beside of us. I 363 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: haven't been dancing weird or anything, just normal wedding fun stuff. 364 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: But apparently me existing in her orbit was now a problem. 365 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: I went to find Kara to ask what the deal was, 366 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: but she brushed me off with can we not do 367 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: this right now? It's my day? 368 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 4: Why are you starting so many problems? 369 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: At that point, I felt like I was just not 370 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: wanted there. I spent months planning this wedding, paid for travel, address, gifts, 371 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: and now here I was being treated like I was 372 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: crashing the party. So I told her I was at 373 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: feeling well and left before dessert real quick. If you 374 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: don't start looking at why you're there. Yeah, she's using 375 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: you to plan the wedding, Yeah, to do all these things. 376 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: And then now you're like, don't be so pretty, don't dance, 377 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: don't be fun. 378 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 4: She's jealous of you. 379 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: She's so jealous, you can't be cool. 380 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 4: She's so jealous, it's crazy. 381 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: Well I got home, my phone blew up with text 382 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: from Kara. At first is where'd you go? Then I 383 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: can't believe you ditched my wedding, And finally everyone's asking 384 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: where my maid of honor went? Do you know how 385 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: bad this makes me look? 386 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: Not? 387 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 4: Hey, are you okay? You said you weren't feeling well? 388 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 4: Is anything what's going on? 389 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: I explained it felt very unwelcomed, and she said I 390 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: was being selfish and making it all about me on 391 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: her wedding day. I didn't respond after that. Now a 392 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: couple of mutual friends are saying I overreacted and that 393 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: weddings are stressful and people say mean things that they 394 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: don't mean. 395 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 4: Then they gotta figure out how to apologize, because doesn't 396 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 4: matter what day it is. 397 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: Yep, and real quick. Sophia is OPI. 398 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 4: The a hole. No, No, she was mean. She bullied 399 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 4: you at her wedding, but like that, you helped her, 400 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 4: you know, plan pretty much entirely. And I don't care 401 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 4: if it's her wedding day. Maybe, yeah, maybe it's high stress, 402 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 4: but she still has to own up her actions. 403 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jim, don't be a nasty person when you won't 404 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: look bad. Yeah, yeah, this is so weird. She's just 405 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: trying to find any way she can make poke fun 406 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: at you. 407 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, she just wants you to look bad. 408 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: Coming Number one says, not the a hole. But have 409 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: we considered that the groom may not like you because 410 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: of what she has said to him about you? He says, huh, honestly, 411 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: haven't thought of that. I mean, I've never had any 412 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: big fights with him or anything, but I guess it's possible. 413 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: Kara never hinted at saying anything negative about me, though, 414 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: but then again, I wouldn't really know if she's had 415 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: a reply, says I used to have a friend whose 416 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: husband absolutely hated me and never made sense until she 417 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: finally admitted that she had been constantly talking to me 418 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: to the point he was jealous of me. She was 419 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: always a mess, and I spent most of our relationship 420 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: taking care of her, so she would point out his 421 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: flaws while saying how much better I was SLASH would 422 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: be in a given situation. It was effing weird, but 423 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: our other friends used to call her Hedra from single 424 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: White Female because they always see she was well obsessed. 425 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: You have no way of knowing what she said about you, 426 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: but you do have an inkling, giving that her mother 427 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: and his brother said to you, I would walk away 428 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: from this relationship. She's mean and dismissive, not the ahole 429 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: that's a good point. 430 00:18:58,240 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 4: I agree. 431 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: If you're if, like you know, someone's your your significant 432 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: others always talking trash about someone else, what is their 433 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: opinion of them going to be? 434 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 4: Mm hmm wit what yeah? 435 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, uh huh what did you mean? 436 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, exactly all right then period? I agree, 437 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: sure precisely gladly cleared that up. 438 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: Comment to not the a hole. If she wanted you there, 439 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 1: she should have treated you with baseic curacy. That means, 440 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: if she had an issue with your behavior, she should 441 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: have sat down like an adult with you and explained 442 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: what a problem was, not send her flying monkey mom 443 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: and brother in law to tell you, she said, then 444 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: blow you off when you try to talk to her 445 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: about it. Notice she didn't say she was hurt or 446 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: upset that you left. She said it made her look bad. Yep, 447 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: and it should. But she wasn't concern about anyone's feeling 448 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: or stay of your friendship. She was concerned about a reputation. 449 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: You have a friend problem here, not a friend husband problem. 450 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: If she valued your friendship, she wouldn't let him treat 451 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: you so crappy or make digs at you in front 452 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: of an audience. It doesn't matter at least it's someone's 453 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: else this time. She should have told him that you 454 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: were off limits, and she should have talked to you 455 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: if she was insecure about something. If you want to 456 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: try savaging this friendship, invite her to coffee and clear 457 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: the air. Explain to her that you're not her husband's 458 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 1: emotional one. Toing bag, you were not in love with him, 459 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: and you were not putting up with the scrap. And 460 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: if she has a problem, she needs to cowgrow up 461 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: and tell you herself and explain what exactly is going on, 462 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: and not to involve a multiple third party or which 463 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: about you behind your back. This isn't elementary school and 464 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: you aren't playing telephone. If she can't handle an adult 465 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: relationship where everyone is treated with courtesy and people communicate, 466 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: then you're moving on. Thanks for the memories, but you're 467 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: an adult and you can socialize with adults. Yeah we 468 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: have an update. 469 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, I agree. I mean you can tell 470 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 4: her again and be like, hey, you know, didn't appreciate 471 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 4: I don't care if it was your wedding day. Can't 472 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 4: treat me like that and expect that I'm just gonna 473 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 4: take it. 474 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, and how was somehow this day about Uopie, 475 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: it's wild. 476 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 4: Like you didn't do anything wrong. You did so much work, 477 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 4: and she was like, you're making solid about yourself. How oh, how. 478 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: Are morning weddings bad? 479 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: Upends what time? Morning? 480 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, like ten thirty was like I've been to some 481 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 4: like after like ten afternoon. 482 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: Weddings church service. 483 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been to like something that starts at ten 484 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 4: thirty and then like the wedding is like afternoon. 485 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, this afternoon. I mean, are you thinking are you 486 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 2: talking about like the wedding, like the parties at ten thirty? 487 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: No, No, no, the things at like ten thirty and 488 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: then you have lunch. 489 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's happened. I don't think that's something. Yeah, 490 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 2: that's fine. 491 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: So we have an update. After the wedding incident, I 492 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: decided to take a step back from Kara completely. I 493 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: didn't block her, but I stopped initiating any contact. Probably 494 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: realized you were the only one initiating contacts. Caro wanted something. 495 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I missed that sentence. What is say? 496 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: I said, I didn't block her, but I stopped initiating 497 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: any contact. 498 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and this whole time, Yeah, you've been putting 499 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 4: in all the work of this friendship. 500 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: She eventually called me a few hours after I made 501 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: the post, literally trying to play the victim. She said 502 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: she couldn't believe I left her wedding over nothing, and 503 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: that she's never been so humiliated by a friend. I 504 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: told her very calmly that I did not appreciate being 505 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: told multiple times throughout her wedding day that I was 506 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: outshining her when all I was doing was existing. I 507 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: pointed out that I followed the dress code, danced like 508 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: everyone else, and never once try to make the event 509 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: about me, to try to say it was just banter 510 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: when she made that comment about me never getting married, 511 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: but never remind her it wasn't just that. It was 512 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: her mom warning me before the wedding not to steal 513 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: the spotlight, her sending her husband to tell me to 514 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: stop dancing so much, and then blowing up my phone 515 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: the moment I left. I told her, if she really 516 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: believed I was stealing the spotlight simply by being there, 517 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: she needs to look inward and figure out why she 518 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: feels so insecure. 519 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 4: Yeah. 520 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: All I gotta say good like stuff like weddings are 521 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 2: supposed to be fun. Yeah, and there's the fun. Please 522 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 2: at a wedding. Literally, I'm gonna do it. 523 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, someone's coming up to me and being like, you're 524 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 4: dancing too much, I'd be like. 525 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 2: What, I love dancing, guy, wedding me too. 526 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 4: Don't tell me how to dance at a wedding. I'm 527 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 4: gonna boogie down down. 528 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 2: If someone tells me to stop dancing or like, stop 529 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 2: being yourself at an event, I'll be like, no, I'm 530 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 2: gonna keep. 531 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 4: Doing God, that's so funny. I won't be doing that. 532 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna set up a dance party right now. 533 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 4: On the dance everyone's I'm gonna poach all of your 534 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 4: guests and we're gonna go to my dance party. 535 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna footloose. 536 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 4: Yeah you know. But Op, that was a great response. 537 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 4: Good job, Yeah, stand up for yourself, do a girl. 538 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 4: The conversation didn't go well. She accused me of being 539 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 4: jealous of her marriage, which is laughable because I would 540 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 4: never want to marry someone like her husband, who didn't 541 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 4: even have the decency to mention his wife's best friend 542 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 4: in his speech. After a decade of friendship, I told 543 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 4: her I don't want to be in a relationship where 544 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 4: I have to shrink myself to make her feel better. 545 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 4: We haven't spoken since. From what I've heard through mutual friends, 546 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 4: she's been telling people that I stormed out of her 547 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 4: wedding to call uge drama. Luckily most people were there 548 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 4: and saw howard that is. The comments on my original 549 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 4: post really solidified that I wasn't crazy for feeling humiliated. 550 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 4: I'm glad I walked away because if someone's wedding is 551 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 4: the peak of their self esteem and they can't handle 552 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 4: someone else existing in the same room, that's their issue, 553 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 4: not mine, Savia. We got a little bit left here. 554 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: We haven't ed it. Yeah, any other thoughts. 555 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 4: I think that you just gotta cut the ties with, 556 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 4: you know, with your friend? Does she sucks? Kara? She 557 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 4: made a fuss about her wedding. She clearly has some 558 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 4: insecurity about you being into her husband. I don't know 559 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 4: where that's coming from. Probably something the husband's saying about you. Yeah, 560 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 4: and she feels a little jealous now more than a little. 561 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 4: But I think that you know you told her how 562 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 4: you feel. She still refuses to own up to her actions. 563 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: So by audios, peace out, huh at it? A lot 564 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 1: of people are asking me why the husband would have 565 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 1: to mention me in his wedding speech. He doesn't. It 566 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense why so many people are 567 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: asking this. It was mentioned in the first post, but 568 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: the quote Evan gave a speech and thanks to his 569 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: brother we said, was basically the best man and made 570 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: of honor combined. Ope, this clears any doubts. Another thing 571 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: a lot of people were questioning was why her family 572 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: was asking me not to dim her light. I have 573 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: no idea. I'm an introvert and almost always hate it 574 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: when the attention is on me. A lot of people 575 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: assumed I was in an attention hogger or something. I 576 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: cannot imagine anything worse. Kara is honestly super insecure, and 577 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: even though I think she's beautiful. During our friendship, she 578 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: always compared her looks to mine. There it is, yep. 579 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 4: She is always been jealous of you. You're gorgeous. 580 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, God forbid, she got one pimble. She would constantly 581 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: talk about it and compare herself to me. 582 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 4: Exhausting, exhausting type of friendship. That's good riddance. 583 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: That makes sense. Why there's so many they went up 584 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: to you so many times. 585 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 4: She's trying to compete with you, and You're like you 586 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 4: don't even know about the competition. Yeah, like huh and 587 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 4: being your friend. 588 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: And the part that sucks is like the Kara got 589 00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: what she wanted out of you. 590 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, all, I got your plan her wedding. She got 591 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 4: you to leave her wedding. Yeah, she only cared that 592 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 4: you left the wedding because other people were like, where'd 593 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 4: your maid of honor go? 594 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: And she got you to be the villain of the wedding. Yep, 595 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: perfect trifecta. 596 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 4: Perfect, That's all she wanted. But uh, boil boy. That's 597 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 4: the end of that story. My sister told me to 598 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 4: remove my bridesmaid or else. 599 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: She won't come bridesmaid versus sister. 600 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 4: Shortly after my fiance and I twenty three got engaged 601 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 4: and decided on a traditional wedding, my sister, Ashley twenty one, 602 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 4: came over to my house after hanging out for a 603 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 4: few minutes. I asked if she wanted to help finalize 604 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 4: my bridesmaids and look at venues as her first maid 605 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 4: of honor task. She immediately perked up with excitement, clapping 606 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 4: her hands as she grinned and asked if this was 607 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 4: me officially asking her to be my maid of honor. 608 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 4: By the way, this comes from Eldicist on the r 609 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 4: slash Charlotte Joe Bray youtubees. I read it and if 610 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 4: you want to spit your own stories, go to the 611 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 4: r slash. Okay, storytime separate it. So I'm Sophia, I'm Riley, 612 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 4: and op says. She asked where her get was, and 613 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 4: I apologized that her maid of honor gift box hadn't 614 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 4: been delivered yet. I could tell she was disappointed, so 615 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 4: I joked that I didn't think I needed to officially 616 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 4: ask her, since it was always a given that we'd 617 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 4: be each other's made of honors one day. 618 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: Well, how am I supposed to tell all of my 619 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: ten thousand followers on Instagram? 620 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 4: Well, I feel like that's I think it's kind of 621 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 4: a sweet gesture to be like, hey, I got you know, 622 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 4: make it a little more ceremonial. 623 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: But Britney's sister asked her to be a maid of 624 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: honor and she got a really cool bouquet of flowers 625 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: and I get nothing. 626 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 4: They get nothing. 627 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: This is this is what it is. 628 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 4: She didn't give any kind of reaction, just asked what 629 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 4: I was thinking for bride'smaids. I named two of her 630 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 4: close cousins and my fiance's cousin. Then I mentioned wanting 631 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 4: my future brother in law's girlfriend, Hannah to gauge Ashley's 632 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 4: reaction and see if this would be a problem for 633 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 4: her My future brother in law. It's been in a 634 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 4: relationship with Hannah for three years. My fiance and I 635 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 4: have grown very close to both of them. The problem 636 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 4: Hannah was friends with my sister's ex boyfriend while we 637 00:27:59,040 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 4: were all in high school. 638 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: Hmm. 639 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 4: Ashley hated this and frequently accused her acts of flirting 640 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 4: and cheating with Hannah. Ashley hesitated when I said I 641 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 4: wanted Hannah in the bridal party. She said it was 642 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 4: my decision, but she was afraid that Hannah would cause 643 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 4: problems and drama. 644 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: Okay, to be fair, if my brother, yeah, this is 645 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: a situation, I'll be like, dude, can we not? Can 646 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: we kick someone else? 647 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 4: Yeah? I feel like if you already knew that it 648 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 4: might cause trouble, I wouldn't even like, if you wanted 649 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 4: to be your maid of honor, why even put that 650 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 4: person in the party. You know, if you know it's 651 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 4: going to be a problem. 652 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: Unless you guys are really that tired. 653 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, which it doesn't like your brother in law's girlfriend. 654 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: That's three years yeah, my wife, Yeah, I. 655 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 4: Don't know if you want your sister to be made 656 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,479 Speaker 4: of honor and you know it's going to be a problem. 657 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 4: I just wouldn't have done it. I had to stop 658 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 4: myself from rolling my eyes because that's not Hannah's style, 659 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 4: but it is Ashley's. Do you even want this girl 660 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 4: to be your maid of honor? 661 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: I think she likes drama. I like, girl, this, what's happening? 662 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 4: Do you even like your sister? The visit continued to 663 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 4: go downhill from there, as she questioned my bride made 664 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 4: choices and suggested others. Fast forward, a few weeks of 665 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 4: booking the venue and some vendors, I coordinated with my 666 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 4: mom and Ashley to schedule a wedding dress shopping appointment. 667 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 4: Two days before the appointment, I got a call from 668 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 4: my sister telling me that she couldn't go because she 669 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 4: had too many chores to do. What are you serious, 670 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 4: I asked, carefully. Yeah, you know we're still organizing the apartment. 671 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 4: We only moved in a couple of weeks ago. She explained, Well, 672 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 4: I really want you there and this is important to me. 673 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 4: It's a morning appointment. Can you still come if I 674 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 4: help you? Afterwards, I asked, well, it's my first appointment 675 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 4: with my boyfriend. This is important to me too, Ashley asserted, 676 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 4: and I feel like this is something you and mom 677 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 4: need to do alone together. 678 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: Oh okay. 679 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 4: I've spent my entire life walking on eggshells around Ashley's 680 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 4: explosive tendencies, and I wasn't about to stop now. I 681 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 4: was hurt that she didn't want to see me try 682 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 4: on wedding dresses, but I knew better than to push 683 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 4: her buttons and start an argument. But by the time 684 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 4: my second wedding dress appointment came up, I was in 685 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 4: a pettier mood. Ashley. She texted me and asked if 686 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 4: I wanted her to go. I said I wanted her 687 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 4: to go to the first one. Ashley repeated her reasons, 688 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 4: but I told her that didn't make sense to me, 689 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 4: and I didn't understand what was going on. Why she 690 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 4: didn't want to go to the first appointment, why she 691 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 4: had been so short with me lately, why she was 692 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 4: so excited for wedding planning at first but now didn't 693 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 4: want any part of it. I said, I felt like 694 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 4: she didn't even want to be my maid of honor anymore, 695 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 4: and she said that needed to be a face to 696 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 4: face conversation, so I drove to her apartment to talk 697 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 4: with her. 698 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: Interesting definitely about Hannah. 699 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 4: Yep, it's pretty obviously about Hannah. 700 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: Also, if someone says they'll help me organize my apartment, 701 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: if I just go to appointment, come on, that'd be 702 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: I would totally take her up on that. 703 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 4: Earlier she was like, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, going to 704 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 4: the appointment. Yeah, come on, yeah. 705 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 2: Hey y'all, it's John og Host here. 706 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to the story. 707 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: But here's a quick three minute break from ask for 708 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 2: more sponsors. 709 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 4: She ripped into me in every way she could, how 710 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 4: spoiled and entitled I was for letting our parents pay 711 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 4: for some wedding vendors, how hard it's going to be 712 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 4: for her to plan my bachelorette party with her cousin 713 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 4: who's under twenty one and Hannah. And she was most 714 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 4: upset at how I asked her to be my maid 715 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 4: of honor and basically said that I expected to be 716 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 4: your maid of honor one day when she didn't want that. 717 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 4: Her words shocked me to my core. And hit harder 718 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 4: than the biggest title wave. I couldn't believe I didn't 719 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,719 Speaker 4: see it coming. Ashley's mo o is to create drama 720 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 4: so you figure out she's upset with you. I felt 721 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 4: stupid for not recognizing that's why she didn't want to 722 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 4: go to my wedding dress shopping appointment. I felt like 723 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 4: she didn't care how she hurt me, so I took 724 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 4: off my filter and didn't handle the situation like I 725 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 4: should have. I told her I was sorry about the 726 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 4: joke I made about how us being each other's maid 727 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 4: of honor was a given, but I never would have 728 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 4: made it if I didn't think that was true. I'd 729 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 4: admitted even though we weren't best friends in the way 730 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 4: a lot of sisters are, we had been through everything 731 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 4: together and were always there for each other. We both 732 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 4: had friends come and go, and neither of us had 733 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 4: any close friends anymore. But I knew, at least I 734 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 4: thought i'd always have her like she'd always have me, 735 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 4: And I was hurt because I was realizing she never 736 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 4: felt that way. So she's your best friend, but you're 737 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 4: not her best friend. 738 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: Who different sides of that lough we supposed to like 739 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: you can't change anything. 740 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, Hannah, Yeah, just replaced your sister. I guess. Ashley said, 741 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 4: if I was really a friend, I would never be 742 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 4: friends with Hannah, let alone have her in my bridal party. 743 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,719 Speaker 4: I asked her once again to provide me any specifics 744 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 4: on the flirting and cheating instances with Hannah and her ex, 745 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 4: but she couldn't just swore that it happened. I told 746 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 4: Ashley what I've told her before. Then Hannah and I 747 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 4: actually talked about her his story with Ashley and r X. 748 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 4: Hannah and I bonded over the fact that we're both 749 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 4: receipt keepers for situations like these where she wants to 750 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 4: show proof of something. She shared all her old text 751 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 4: with Ashley's X with me, where they hardly had full 752 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 4: conversations and no flirting. Ashley insisted Hannah could have deleted 753 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 4: texts well. I argued that it's more likely that they 754 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 4: were just casual friends in a school that only graduates 755 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 4: forty people a year. 756 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: Oh, well, that makes a lot of sense. 757 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. We kept arguing about the bridal party and the 758 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,239 Speaker 4: wedding dress appointment. After the third time, she said I 759 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 4: was making it hard for her to want to be 760 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 4: my maid of honor. I said she didn't need to 761 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 4: worry about it anymore and was off the hook. Dang no, 762 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 4: dang man, Well there you go. That's it. No more 763 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 4: made of honor. I feel like this is like I 764 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 4: don't have a sister, but I do have friends who 765 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 4: I consider sisters, and I feel like, sometimes you just 766 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 4: you fight. From what I've heard about sisters fighting, you 767 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 4: get pretty crazy. 768 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I recently got a new sister and sometimes she 769 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: fights with me. That's tough sometimes, but. 770 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 4: Then you get over it. 771 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: You get over it over I think this is too much. 772 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: Everyone's the gay hole here. 773 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 4: I agree, I agree, I agree. 774 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: Like, ope, you're doing this because you want to torment 775 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: your sister. 776 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 4: You literally said, yeah, she starts like she's always about 777 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 4: the drama, and then you literally set her up to 778 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 4: like you're like, I know she's gonna starts some drama 779 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 4: if I do this. I know, and she did, and 780 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 4: she's the ale for that, but like. 781 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: You know what else she supposed to do. 782 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 4: If you know the train's coming, gotta get out of 783 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 4: the way. A couple of weeks past, I apologize for 784 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 4: the distasteful joke. I made an unfair expectation I tried 785 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 4: to put on her, and I apologize for the half 786 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 4: budded apology I initially gave her. She accepted the apology 787 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 4: and said sorry as well. I could tell she thought 788 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 4: I would ask her again to be my maid of honor. 789 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 4: I told her I thought it was best for us 790 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 4: for her to be there as a bridesmaid without any 791 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 4: of the expectations of a maid of honor. She paused, 792 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 4: Who's going to be your maid of honor? Then she snapped, oh, no, oh, 793 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 4: p oh pe. 794 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: We already know you're already in a petty mood. We 795 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: already know you're gonna pick. 796 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 4: I was slightly taken aback by her tone that came 797 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 4: out more like an accusation. No one, Oh, I conceded. 798 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 4: Everything I said to you when I asked you to 799 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 4: be my maid of honor and the night we fought 800 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 4: is all true. So I'm not gonna have one. You know, 801 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 4: the maid of honor plans the bride or shower and 802 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 4: the bachelorette party, right. Ashley continued her accusatory tone. Well, 803 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 4: I've trying to tell you I only wanted a low 804 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 4: key bachelorette and Mom and I can do the rest 805 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 4: of the planning, I answered her. That turned into even 806 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,240 Speaker 4: more arguing about the bridal party, which resulted in nashally 807 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 4: giving me an ultimatup. Either Hannah is in the wedding 808 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 4: party or she is. She wants me to punt Hannah 809 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 4: out because I never should have asked her in the 810 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 4: first place. She said, that's how I can prove if 811 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 4: a really friends the way I said we are. If 812 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 4: I don't, then she'll remove herself as a bridesmaid. I 813 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 4: feel lost and devastated. I love Hannah and I don't 814 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 4: want to break her heart, let alone piss off my 815 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 4: fiance and my future brother in law. But my argument 816 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 4: with my sister turned into the whole family arguing with 817 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 4: each other. Now my parents are basically telling me I 818 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 4: should do it and keep the peace, and I'm so 819 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 4: tired of all the fighting that I'm starting to think 820 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 4: they're right. 821 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: Dude, you guys don't like each other. Yeah, you could 822 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 1: totally see this shift in her thought process of being 823 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,919 Speaker 1: made of honor whenever you mentioned Hannah. If Hannah did 824 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,040 Speaker 1: or didn't cheat on her ex, I don't know. It 825 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: seems all messy and like it's just time to I 826 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: don't know. You guys, either to mend or not be sisters. 827 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 4: Yes, you're done being sisters. I think at this point 828 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 4: you've already made a decision that led to this drama. 829 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 4: And I think that you, I honestly think that OP 830 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 4: should just keep Hannah in the wedding and you know, 831 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 4: let you know, because at that point, it's kind of 832 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 4: like an OP doesn't have to make the decision, If 833 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 4: that makes sense, Okay, It like puts it on the 834 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 4: sister to make a choice to not be a bridesmaid, 835 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 4: rather than OPE actively being like, Hannah, you're out of 836 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 4: the wedding. Yeah, because I feel like if she does 837 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 4: it that way where she keeps Hannah in, then the 838 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 4: sister throws a tantrum and she's like, okay, like I'm 839 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 4: not kicking. I want you to be in the wedding. 840 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,720 Speaker 4: So she's not really choosing anyone. 841 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: Okay. 842 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 4: I think that, honestly would be better because your sister's 843 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 4: throwing a fit, and I don't think that you should 844 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 4: give into that. 845 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: Don't give into it. She seems like she's the spoiled 846 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 1: and entitled one. Yeah, but I m also smelling hints 847 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 1: of that from you, Op. 848 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 4: I just it just feels like you knew what was 849 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 4: going to happen, but it's too late to stop. 850 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: An yeah, what happens next? 851 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 4: Opie says. I swear I didn't set out to be 852 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 4: a bridezella. I just wanted the women I love and 853 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 4: trusted as bridesmaids. But I should have foreseen all the 854 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 4: problems asking Hannah caused. Now I'm in such a hole. 855 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 4: I don't know who to turn to except for you, 856 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 4: Lovely Potatoes, who I know will be honest with me. 857 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,399 Speaker 4: I really do feel like the worst person. If that's 858 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 4: any consolation. Depending on how this continues with my family, 859 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 4: I might just a lope, y'all. I know I'll be 860 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 4: an ale either way. But what would be the least 861 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 4: a whole move. Should I apologize and remove Hannah as 862 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 4: a bridesmaid since it is my sister and I did 863 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 4: majorly f up by making that stupid joke. Or should 864 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 4: I let Ashley remove herself since she's the one imposing 865 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 4: the ultimatum again, I think you should just let Ashley 866 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 4: remove herself, call her bluff. Maybe she's bluffing, Maybe she 867 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 4: won't do it. 868 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: Probably she's also expecting a lot from this bachelorette party. Yeah, 869 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,919 Speaker 1: all this stuff. It seems like, oh, you're not You're 870 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 1: just gonna have a low key bachelorette party. But we're 871 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 1: supposed to go out and drink and have a good 872 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: time and do all these different things. Yeah. 873 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 4: I feel like she wanted to make it like her 874 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 4: bachelorette party. 875 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, about you. I wonder how that 876 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 1: boyfriend's doing. 877 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, Hannah's been together. 878 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no. Oh my gosh, Ashley's 879 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: boyfriend does she have one? Yeah, she moved into apartment 880 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 1: with her. That was the first toy thing. 881 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, right, right, Well, but that's the end of 882 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 4: that story. Folks. 883 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: My entitled sister assumes she can use my venue for 884 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: her wedding, but she never booked it. 885 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 4: Well, she's gonna find out she's wrong. 886 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 1: I am twenty five. My sister is twenty nine. I 887 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: also have a younger sister eight. When I was fourteen, 888 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: my mom sent me to live with her parents. Her 889 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 1: excuse was that they needed me to help out. I 890 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: believe she just didn't want to deal with her growing 891 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: mel teen. By the way, this comes from throwaway cis. 892 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,760 Speaker 1: Please and if you would have made your own stories, 893 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: go to your so I show, okay, story t I'm subredded, 894 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,760 Speaker 1: I'm Riley, I'm Sophia. No, P says, So my grandparents 895 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: owned an amazing property in the mountains that has the 896 00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 1: amazing view. We also have some horses and other critters. Okay, 897 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 1: got that chicken money. Yeah, they were all so quite 898 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: wealthy as well. They both passed around four months ago, 899 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: a month apart. They gave me the property because I 900 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: would appreciate and respect it more, while my mom and 901 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: sisters got money and other assets overall valued more than 902 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: the property. In the past four years, I turned part 903 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 1: of the property into a venue for mainly weddings. GPS 904 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: knew of this idea and thought it was a good one. 905 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: We are busy and usually booked around eight months out. 906 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,479 Speaker 1: My sister got engaged one and a half years ago 907 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: and said she wanted to get married at the property. 908 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: I said, yes, just let me know the date as 909 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: soon as possible so I can make sure it's booked. 910 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 1: I never got a date. I followed up several times 911 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 1: and kept asking her. She would brush me off. Two 912 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: weeks ago I got the wedding invitation stating the property 913 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: is the location and the date, which is September of 914 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: this year. 915 00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 4: Uh, that's depending on when this was posted. That's very eas. 916 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,919 Speaker 1: And depending on where this is, that's a baller month 917 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: to get married. Yeah, you gotta have some cash for that. 918 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: I immediately called her and said that we are booked 919 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: for that day and can't accommodate her. Well, now, her, 920 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,399 Speaker 1: my mom, other family, her partner's family, as well as 921 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 1: other flying monkeys have been blowing up on me. They 922 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: are also calling and writing reviews for my business. 923 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 4: No, that's so annoying. 924 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,919 Speaker 1: I asked them to stop and called my sister, telling 925 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: her that I literally said she all she had to 926 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: do was tell me when she knew her date was 927 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: so I could block it out and I would take 928 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: care of everything else. She went off on how I'm 929 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 1: ruining her day it's our family's property, and how she 930 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: already sent out the invitations and couldn't go back. Now 931 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: I should just tell the other couple to cancel. They 932 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: have been on the books for over a year now 933 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,760 Speaker 1: and I actually like them. Family is more important. After 934 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: the last big blow up, I started communicating strictly through 935 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 1: the business, using our record line as well as email. 936 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,839 Speaker 1: I suggested three other dates around the same time. But 937 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: that's not good enough. I'm being resentful and a a 938 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: whole not at all. 939 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 4: Literally your okay, if you weren't related to them, it 940 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 4: would be quite literally insane if they said that to 941 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 4: just a random like business. Yeah, they're like, yeah, I know, 942 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 4: we didn't book but like two weeks before or however long. 943 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, two weeks ago, yeah. 944 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,760 Speaker 4: However long it's you know, I guess this is probably 945 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 4: we'll say it was in March. Yeah, like still, I 946 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 4: mean anytime that they're doing it. They can't just send 947 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,800 Speaker 4: out the letters and say, yeah, like we're doing it here. 948 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 4: If it was a person that wasn't related to them, 949 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 4: there would be absolutely no question that that's crazy. 950 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you need about a year and a half. 951 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's or they booked it, which is what happened here. 952 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 4: And op he's even offering other dates. 953 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 1: That's really nice of you. 954 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, uh hh, ridiculous. 955 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: Very crazy. To add thank you all for the overwhelming response. 956 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,720 Speaker 1: I thought it was going crazy. I'll try to respond 957 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 1: to people later when I have some time. Thank you 958 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,479 Speaker 1: all for the advice and responses. Edit to add two. Wow, 959 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: there's no possible way I can respond to everyone. I'm 960 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,280 Speaker 1: so popular. Blah blah, blah blah. I plan on getting 961 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,399 Speaker 1: in contact with the couple and see if I can 962 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,280 Speaker 1: take them to dinner or something to explain the situation. 963 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of giving them a discount, getting a guest list, 964 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 1: and being tied on security on our part. Thanks to everyone. 965 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: Edit to add three. I'm so blown away by the responses. 966 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 1: I probably won't update till later, but I'm going to 967 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: reach out to the other couple and have a sit 968 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 1: down with my sister as well as my mom. I 969 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 1: have a meeting with a lawyer this week. And finally, 970 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I'm not going to name my business 971 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,800 Speaker 1: for reasons. Thanks for the offers of writing good reviews, 972 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: but I can't accept it. We have one comment, so 973 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 1: she talks about like, you know, just do a favor 974 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 1: for me and be kind for everyone, and we have 975 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 1: some relevant comments. I mean, that's nice they're talking to 976 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: the couple, but I don't I don't know. 977 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 4: I'm confused if Op's saying and we'll probably find this out, 978 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 4: but I'm confused if Ope is saying that they're gonna 979 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 4: go meet to talk with the couple to change their date, 980 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 4: or if OPI just wants to be nice because she 981 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 4: wants to get back at her family. I'm not I'm 982 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 4: not quite sure. 983 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, she said, she's just gonna sit down with them, Like, 984 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: are you. 985 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 4: Trying to change the date? Because I don't think you 986 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 4: should do that. 987 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 1: Don't do not. 988 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:25,240 Speaker 4: Don't give in to your sister. 989 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, relevant comments disregardable says, your mom has to 990 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: be the one filling her head with It's fine, it's 991 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 1: our property. We can use it whenever we want. Opie. 992 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: I have no doubt in my mind that my mom 993 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 1: is the one filling her head. She definitely has the 994 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,760 Speaker 1: mentality of what's hers is hers and what's mine is hers. 995 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: Grounch Down says, oh yeah, system, mom know better. It's possible. 996 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 1: Sister never moved out of the house at eighteen, though hopefully. 997 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 4: And also I realized, I said she but oh Pie's 998 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 4: a guy. 999 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 1: Oh dude, I forgot. Oh Pie's a dude. Everyone. Opie 1000 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: is a man. He has man parts. Continue hopefully Opie 1001 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: updates about this. My family had a lot of siblings 1002 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 1: raising each other, basically single parent at home because my 1003 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 1: dad was rarely around, and that does grow a lot 1004 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: of resentment, but it also grows a sense of responsibility. 1005 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: Sister never giving Opie the wedding date despite multiple attempts 1006 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 1: of communication is why I doubt. This is a situation 1007 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 1: where sister raised him until he was fourteen, and more 1008 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 1: so favoritism. So sister just says the favorite Well. 1009 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean like his mom literally gave him away. 1010 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 4: She's like, you're gonna live with your grandparents. Bye. 1011 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 1: We did want to buy So yeah. 1012 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 4: Clearly there's some favoritism going on here. 1013 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 1: Opie says, I don't want to get too much into that, 1014 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 1: but my older sister didn't raise me at all. I 1015 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: was basically alone from around eight ten ish to when 1016 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 1: I was relocated. She also didn't move out until about 1017 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: four years ago, and she's now twenty nine. She didn't 1018 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,280 Speaker 1: move out twenty five. Yeah. Ope, he added to another commenter, 1019 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: does she have caterers booked with Menu Efficient DJ Decorations 1020 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: deposit or is she thinking that you're going to do 1021 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 1: all this and pay for all of it too, as 1022 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: she talked with any of them and booked them. But 1023 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,840 Speaker 1: he says, I honestly have no idea. I need to 1024 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: go back and make sure if anything's booked for that day. 1025 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 1: Is already is for the actual couple. I need to 1026 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 1: call the other couple and possibly have a sit down 1027 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 1: face to face with them. As my sister, she hasn't 1028 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,360 Speaker 1: told me much. I'll try to see if I can 1029 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 1: get my little sister to be a mole for me 1030 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 1: to gather information. Infod I add a little sister and 1031 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,719 Speaker 1: I have a good relationship. She spends time with me 1032 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 1: and loves my horses, so it should be easy to 1033 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 1: convince her. Oh my god, that's it, dang time out. No, No, 1034 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just confused. 1035 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 4: Why you're meeting with the people. I don't understand. Are 1036 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 4: you trying to tell them that you can't give them 1037 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,880 Speaker 4: that day? Like, what's your plan here? Because don't do that. 1038 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 4: You have a business to run. Don't switch up on 1039 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,320 Speaker 4: the people that I've committed to you for the you 1040 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 4: know sister that's trying to give you a trying to 1041 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 4: force you your and even though she has had no planning 1042 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 4: or given you any time to prep. Don't do that. 1043 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it says I would. Yeah, Okay, this is relevant, guys. 1044 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:12,720 Speaker 1: I just found another update. 1045 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,320 Speaker 3: Oh ran, Hey it's Sam. We'll get back to the stories. 1046 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 3: But here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors. 1047 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 1: Thank you all for your love, comments and opinions. It 1048 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 1: was quite overwhelming. It has been busy, Sorry it took 1049 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 1: so long. First, I would like to say that I 1050 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 1: did leave out a bunch of background information in history 1051 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 1: between my family and I. People had concerns about the 1052 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,839 Speaker 1: comment I made about my little sister and putting her 1053 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 1: in the middle of things. I didn't end up asking her, 1054 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,799 Speaker 1: but she still helped out. In regards to the other 1055 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,360 Speaker 1: couple of that book today, I will not did not 1056 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,360 Speaker 1: cancel on them. I invited them out to the properties 1057 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 1: and have a nice dinner. We had a good time, 1058 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 1: and I explained what was happening. I said I would 1059 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 1: not cancel on them. I offered added security, crested, a 1060 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 1: guest list and a main point of contact for guest questions, 1061 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 1: and a discount for just in case things happened. They 1062 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 1: understood and accepted the new terms and offer. 1063 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 4: Of course they did. They just got a discount. 1064 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 1: A nice dinner, right besides something yes, man. 1065 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 5: I'm like, of course, whatever you say, yeah, heck yeah, 1066 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 5: I do have a lawyer and I have sent her 1067 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 5: ceased and assist letters to my sister mother the friends 1068 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,400 Speaker 5: and other family members who were. 1069 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 1: Making false reviews good and talking bad about my business. 1070 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:23,840 Speaker 4: I was gonna say, you should do that, because they 1071 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,400 Speaker 4: can't just be leaving all these bad reviews that have 1072 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:27,439 Speaker 4: no backing. 1073 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 1: And that went overwhelm. Sarcasm didn't go so hot, I 1074 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 1: imagine not. She also said not to share my details 1075 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,319 Speaker 1: to get better reviews. On to my sister and mom. 1076 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: I told them both that it's my property. There is 1077 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 1: no hour, and it is not the family property. It's mine. 1078 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 1: I told them under no circumstances where they allowed to 1079 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 1: show up on the date of question. I had offered 1080 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 1: several different solutions, which all were rejected. All I asked 1081 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 1: in the beginning was for an immediate response to when 1082 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 1: they figured out a date they wanted to get married. 1083 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,840 Speaker 1: If it was at any other venue and they did this, 1084 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 1: it would not work. Just because I'm running. It doesn't 1085 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 1: give them special treatment or priority, they argued. I shut 1086 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,359 Speaker 1: them down. If they want to have their wedding here, 1087 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 1: call for a date now. My younger sister was able 1088 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,759 Speaker 1: to find the invitation list and send it to me. 1089 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,919 Speaker 1: I guess my older sister left her computer open. All 1090 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 1: of the people that RSVP'd I sent an email slash 1091 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: text saying the venue is not where the wedding will 1092 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,280 Speaker 1: be set, as it was never reserved under the bride 1093 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 1: and groom's names. 1094 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 5: Dude, that is some scheven from the little system. 1095 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's still trying to get a rooting. Yeah, yeah, 1096 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 4: good stuff. You sent your spying wild. 1097 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 1: The groom reached out to me and asked if I 1098 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,319 Speaker 1: was serious about her not reserving the date. Apparently she 1099 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,760 Speaker 1: told his side of the family she had a covered liar, 1100 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 1: not to worry about it. 1101 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:54,760 Speaker 4: She's a liar. 1102 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 1: He also apologized and mentioned they knew the date for 1103 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 1: over a year, then why wouldn't. 1104 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:05,880 Speaker 4: She say, like literally, what was her thinking there? 1105 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 1: And on top of that, he said, he has a 1106 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 1: lot to think about now. 1107 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, they might not even need the venue. There might 1108 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 4: not even be a wedding if she's lying about everything. 1109 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,799 Speaker 1: Because if you have an estranged brother and you're hearing 1110 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 1: from your partner, oh they're horrible. All they say is 1111 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,320 Speaker 1: mean things. Yeah, Oh, you actually have a conversation with 1112 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 1: him and you're like, oh, they're normal. 1113 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 4: It's pretty normal. Oh, she never told you what date 1114 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 4: we were doing. That's strange. Yeah, of course, it's got 1115 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 4: a lot of thinking about. 1116 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: Now. Since that talk, everything is quiet and I'm scared. 1117 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,400 Speaker 1: Usually when my sister is quiet, one of two things happen. 1118 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,920 Speaker 1: It's about to get painful. Eruption is immediate. So those 1119 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,320 Speaker 1: are two things. That's all for now. I'll keep you 1120 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,839 Speaker 1: all updated. I'm not sure when I'll update, but it's 1121 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 1: over now. Also, sorry to the people ask you for 1122 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,319 Speaker 1: my venue details. I don't want to share it here 1123 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,919 Speaker 1: do to me keeping my anonymity. Also, I'm in North 1124 00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 1: America and that is it. I also look for an update. 1125 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 1: There's no other update. 1126 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 4: That's it, but it seems like he's resolving it. We've 1127 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,320 Speaker 4: got the like the legal side being involved. Yeah, the 1128 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,879 Speaker 4: people who have that date aren't being canceled on, which 1129 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 4: is good. 1130 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 1: They're not showing up. 1131 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 4: And now the sister might not even be getting married. 1132 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 1: Shoot, man, that's I'd invite the brother in law or 1133 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 1: the new brother in law out. 1134 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 4: I'd be like, hey, you want to come hang out, 1135 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,239 Speaker 4: come check it out. We can ride some horses. 1136 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 1: Tell you how bad my sister is. 1137 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, and take him out to dinner. 1138 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,400 Speaker 1: Be nice, man, you don't want to get married. 1139 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 4: I gotta tell you I'll give you a discount on 1140 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 4: the venue. Agree. Yeah, don't get married. 1141 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 1: And guys, that's the end of that story. End episode. 1142 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 1: So if you love us, make sure to subscribe. 1143 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 4: We love you and see you tomorrow