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Speaker 1: There too much information, but I'm looking a football program

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Speaker 1: sent it even to rhet and showed you where they

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Speaker 1: blitz a safety off the edge. It might even have

429
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Speaker 1: been the call we were listening to before we started.

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Speaker 1: Here they're blitzing safety off the edge. The tight end releases.

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Speaker 1: So to me, if the tight end's gonna release, then

432
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Speaker 1: he's hot and he's he is naked in the flat

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Speaker 1: and DeShawn never looks over there, ends up getting hit Um,

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Speaker 1: ends up leading to the the sack of force fumble

435
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Speaker 1: to turn over um. But there's also, okay, the back

436
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 1: some scam protection there. Maybe he thinks the back is

437
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 1: gonna be able to come over there and pick him up,

438
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,920
Speaker 1: and he's picked up, but he is reading everything. I'm

439
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 1: all for getting some big plays, but everything is high

440
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 1: to low and he is constantly big play hunting, constantly

441
00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 1: holding the football, putting that offensive line in a tough spot.

442
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,200
Speaker 1: And that's where we end up getting six sacks in

443
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Speaker 1: this ball game. So they've got to do a better

444
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 1: job either. He's got to make a concerted effort to

445
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,919
Speaker 1: just take some gimmes and take some layups, and they

446
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,960
Speaker 1: need to do a better job of scheming some of those,

447
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,160
Speaker 1: baking those into the game plan where he can get

448
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,919
Speaker 1: the ball out of his hands. It helps him get

449
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,959
Speaker 1: in a rhythm and it's gonna keep him protected. Uh,

450
00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 1: he can't get hit this much, and to be honest

451
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,359
Speaker 1: with that, think some of it's gotta fall on his shoulders.

452
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 1: As we talked about a couple of weeks ago. Yeah,

453
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 1: the disappointed performance from them, Look I understand that Carolina

454
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 1: was playing a lot of quarters coverage and some cover

455
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 1: two and they were intent on taking the deep ball away.

456
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,119
Speaker 1: A couple of he missed a couple, but he had

457
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Speaker 1: Watson wide open. Watson talked in postgame pressor. He talked

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Speaker 1: about the coverage and why he didn't Dialott Morris shots,

459
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,719
Speaker 1: and he talked about them taking it away. But you're right,

460
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,640
Speaker 1: it's kind of like the Barry Bonds off when Barry

461
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 1: Bonds had the seventy three home run season, Like he

462
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 1: didn't get many pitches, but when he got those pitches,

463
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 1: he knocked about the park. For the Shaun Watson, the

464
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 1: way this offense, they can't miss him because they just

465
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 1: don't have enough firepower to consistently put it up there.

466
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,439
Speaker 1: He has to be on point when he gets those

467
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 1: home run balls. To see where these two teams go. Yeah,

468
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 1: both those teams two and two along a wrong with

469
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Speaker 1: just about everybody else in this darn League's crazy, al right.

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Speaker 1: Next one here the Detroit Lions. I know they didn't win, guys,

471
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Speaker 1: but this is this is a sneaky good team. Matthews

472
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Speaker 1: got the football Backlitz comes float to into the end zone.

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Speaker 1: Eies did you get both meat down? Can of gone? Today?

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Speaker 1: The Lions are back in the league. Stafford plotting it

475
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Speaker 1: up there and fit one night came down with it

476
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Speaker 1: what I tried by that football team. What a cat

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Speaker 1: can he got today? And like I said, when you

478
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Speaker 1: see your fluarterback out on the field laying it all

479
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,439
Speaker 1: out for you as an officer, you want to lay

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Speaker 1: it all off the hill. Look, I gotta give the

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Speaker 1: Lions some credit here. I know the Chiefs won the

482
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Speaker 1: football game. We'll get to them here as well. Um,

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Speaker 1: and they continue to keep rolling the matter who's out

484
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Speaker 1: of the lineup. But I watched this, uh, this Lions

485
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Speaker 1: team on the road against the Cardinals in the way

486
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Speaker 1: they kind of blew that game ended up being a tie.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't all that impressed. I go there for the

488
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Speaker 1: Chargers game, and I thought the Chargers. I left the

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Speaker 1: stadium fe like, oh, the Chargers just kind of gave

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Speaker 1: a game away. You fumble going in, you throw a

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Speaker 1: pick in the end zone, you missed two field goals.

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Speaker 1: Like I just kind of felt like, Okay, the Chargers

493
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Speaker 1: were Yeah that the Lions are still this is a

494
00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 1: good win for them. But I don't really read into

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Speaker 1: much in then they go on the road and beat Philadelphia,

496
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 1: and then now you come and play the red hot

497
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs and have a lead for the majority

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Speaker 1: of that ballgame, So you start adding all this stuff up.

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00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: But I'm like, you know what, okay, tip of the cap,

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00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia and company, Matt Stafford and company. This team

501
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 1: is better than I thought. They've been very competitive this season.

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00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: I think i'd agree with you. I think I kind

503
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: of left that game thinking, like, all right, this if

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Speaker 1: not for the six fumbles in the third quarter of

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00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 1: this game, a few of them. I mean, the Detroit

506
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 1: Lions were inside the ten yard line four times in

507
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 1: the second half, and they only came away with ten points.

508
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 1: That that can't happen, right, even a couple of field

509
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: goals in those situations, and you're in this game. You

510
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 1: win this game essentially, So um, look, I think it

511
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 1: was it was. It was impressive, but again it shows

512
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 1: you they're just not quite there yet. Whereas the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: I was. I was almost just as impressed with the

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Speaker 1: way that they found a way to win this game

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Speaker 1: despite some of the turnovers that they had. As well. Buck, Like,

516
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Speaker 1: I agree with both of you. Guys on on Detroit.

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00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: I think what Detroit is beginning to do Pat Patricia

518
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: is kind of bringing some of that New England sauce

519
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: to Detroit, meaning where they're not beating themselves. Now what

520
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 1: happened in this game. They beat themselves because the turnovers,

521
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: the fumbles and the light. But they're they're making it

522
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 1: very very hard for teams to beat them because they're

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00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: not giving up the big plays. They're doing the little

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Speaker 1: things right that enable you to stay in games, and

525
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 1: so that's going to keep them there. But the thing

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Speaker 1: about them playing the style that they play, they'll play

527
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: a lot of close games. They don't have the ability

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Speaker 1: to kind of stretch away because as they morph into

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Speaker 1: more of a almost they are conservative but kind of

530
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 1: like a ball control, possession type physical team. You can't

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Speaker 1: run away from people like you would when they were

532
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,719
Speaker 1: kind of letting a flyer over the yard. That's the difference.

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Speaker 1: The last thing I'll say on it is Patrick mahomes

534
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: athleticism won the Chiefs this game for sure, on third

535
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 1: and fourth down conversions and scrambling and getting first down.

536
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Speaker 1: So that's the underrated thing because we still don't view

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes fully as like a duel three quarterback. We're

538
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Speaker 1: more we're amazed by his talent and what he's able

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Speaker 1: to do. But it his athletics isn't really a big

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Speaker 1: part of it because one of those things where winning

541
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: doubt he can run around Rodgers and a couple of

542
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 1: years ago. Absolutely, And so I think the thing was

543
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: at the end of the game, when they're on their

544
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: game winning drive. It's a critical third and eight. Yeah,

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00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 1: I think they played two man, and so they two man,

546
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: they have man underneath two deep safeties. They're looking to

547
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 1: undercut anything from the wide receivers in the ross. Makes

548
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,959
Speaker 1: it very, very difficult to throw against. He recognizes demand coverage,

549
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: early splits the same right down the middle, easily picks

550
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: up the first down. Those are the kind of plays

551
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 1: that continue to keep him in the m VP discussion.

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Speaker 1: We got next here, all right, I'll get us, I'll

553
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: get us going here. This is uh. This was a

554
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 1: fun game, maybe the most fun game to watch. Uh,

555
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Speaker 1: And it was right here in l A. The Bucks

556
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: getting a win over the Rams. Those Tempa Bay Bucks

557
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: look new and improved. Here's the play action fake dropping

558
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 1: once that those a deep ball Downfeld receiver all but

559
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Speaker 1: that's three of the chat five ton stone Champa Bay Buccaneers.

560
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 1: Winston goes deep and throws a beautiful rainbow pass sixties

561
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: seven yards on the box have scored forty plus. Yeah. Look,

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Speaker 1: I think this was an emotional win for the Bucks.

563
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: Their general manager, Jason Light's father passed away suddenly the

564
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: day before. At the Nebraska game, they were able to

565
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: face time with him after the game in the locker

566
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Speaker 1: room and say this one was for you and your family.

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00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: I think that was That was a really you know,

568
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 1: classy move by Bruce arians and and that whole team.

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Speaker 1: And look, outside of that, the Bucks played really well.

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00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: I know they gave up a ton of points and

571
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 1: a ton of passing yards, but DJ, it almost sounded

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00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: like that was kind of by design, right. They wanted

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00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: to limit the run game for sure, and then put

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Speaker 1: the game in Jared Goff's hands and and say all right,

575
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 1: let's let's take our chances this way. Golf had the

576
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: four turnovers and we threw for over five yards, but

577
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Speaker 1: the three picks in the fumble at the end to

578
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: win it. Um. You know, look, I think it was

579
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Speaker 1: impressive on on both sides. The ball for Jameis Winston

580
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 1: again playing pretty well, and then that Bucks defense stepping

581
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: up when they had to. I think this thing to

582
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,719
Speaker 1: guys there, yeah, go ahead and go ahead buck. Oh

583
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: the thing that stood up to me. I had a

584
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: chance to talk to somebody close to to your bowls

585
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: down there, and they said they wanted to put the

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00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: game on Jerry golf shoulders. They made a concerted effort

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00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: to stop to run. They wanted to make it where

588
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: they could take the threat of the play action out

589
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: of the mix and make him throw dropped back passes

590
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: because that's not really the strength of his game. And

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00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 1: so that's what they were able to do. And Shout

592
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: mcva certainly played into that. Didn't give Ty Gurley enough

593
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: opportunities for him to be a legitimate factor, and so

594
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers really came after him, loaded up, brought pressure,

595
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: did some a gap stuff, A gap pressures that we've

596
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: seen the late Jim Johnson and Mike Zimmer and stuff do.

597
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 1: Messed up their productions and it really made Jerry Golfer uncomfortable,

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00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: and so you saw him turn the ball over because

599
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,239
Speaker 1: he just wasn't comfortable in the pocket. One thing too

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00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: off the edge when you look at what they did,

601
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: and let's talk about this on the aftermath to show

602
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: the clips over Uh, they were able to really set

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00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: the edge. And even if you're not sitting in the edge,

604
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: like a lot of times we talked about setting the

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00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: edge scouting term where you're locking out your arms on

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00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: inman on the line, whether it's a tight end or

607
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: a tackle, and you're just being firm there and forcing

608
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: the ball back inside. There's other ways you can do that.

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00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: If you can't, if you aren't gonna just lock him

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00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 1: out right there, you can just buzz upfield. And when

611
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: you buzz upfield, you're gonna force that that running back

612
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: on any type of outside zone, he's gonna have to

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00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 1: come underneath you, and he's gonna have to change his path,

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00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: which is gonna allow your inside guys, your your interior

615
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: linement as well as your linebackers to flow. It's just

616
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: a much easier angle for them to make plays. And

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00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: they just refuse to let Todd Gurley in this run

618
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 1: game get outside. They made him duck underneath him when

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00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: he did, the calvary was there was waiting and I

620
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: think you're gonna see that's something teams are gonna copy

621
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Speaker 1: playing against this team. They're just gonna take away that

622
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: outside zone, make you cut back, um because that play

623
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: action that Bucky was talking about a lot of it

624
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: comes off that outside zone. So interesting, uh, defensive game plan.

625
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: I know others will say, hey, the ramp score forty points,

626
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: you know what more do you want to do? But

627
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: that's not the way they play. That's not the way

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00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: they play, and they don't want to be They gotta

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00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: be more balanced than that. Yeah, they don't want to

630
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: be dropping back seventy three times like they did in

631
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: this don't believes you're gonna get negative plays and that's

632
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: what you happen. Yeah, no question. And again we gotta

633
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: give some credit to Jamis Winston for the second straight

634
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: week has really shown some improvements great, has played really well.

635
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: And credits of Byron Leftwitch and Bruce Arians and the

636
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: and Clyde Christensen and that staff for kind of inspiring

637
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: that change as well. And on time and in rhythm,

638
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: yeah there is that was the key for Jamis Winston.

639
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: When he's on time and in rhythm, he's great. When

640
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: he sits there and holds the ball, pats the ball.

641
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: Bad things happened. I thought he did a great job

642
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: of staying in rhythm in this game. Hey, Buck's got

643
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: us here, But what have you got on the Bears?

644
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: The Bears ain't good hands with Chase Daniel. Play clocked

645
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: down at twelve for Chase Daniel and for the injured

646
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: mits Trobisky out of the gun, takes the snap on

647
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: second and gold of ten clean pocket throws coming clean,

648
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: told f turns it up, hitting the end zone. Clift

649
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: side touchdown, touchdown Bears ten yards Chase Daniel, Tarik Cohen

650
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: for the touchdown of the lad all the vikings LOI

651
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: mean this, this might be on popular I'm not gonna

652
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: say that the but the Bears are a better team

653
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: with Chase Daniel than Mitchell Drabinsky. But I do believe

654
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: Matt Naggie will have some comfort in knowing that Chase

655
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: Daniel is his quarterback going forward. The Chicago Bears only

656
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: need their quarterback to manage games to win games at

657
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: a high level. Their defenses lightstyle check Bugana has done

658
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: a really good job of helping this defense go from

659
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: I mean very good too great. He's done a great

660
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: job of just kind of like letting this team um

661
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: be led by their defense, and so what you need

662
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: a quarterback is the guy that understands how to play

663
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: in that style, how to take care of the ball,

664
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: how to get us in the right place, how to

665
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: lean on the running game, and every now and then

666
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: when they have a chance to make it play in

667
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: the past game, I can make it. That's who Jay

668
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: Daniel lives. Chase Daniel knows the offense in and out,

669
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: having been a long time back up for Man, so

670
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: now it's about just making sure he gets the ball

671
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: on the right playmaker's hands and allowed them to do

672
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: the deal. I think he understands that about himself, and

673
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: I think you continue to do it. I mean, this

674
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: is gonna be the question all week, right, and the

675
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: Bears in a better spot with Chase Daniel. No, I

676
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: think it's early. I think it's early to say that.

677
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: I think sometimes when I look at the Bears, um,

678
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: I look at a team that can't run the ball,

679
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: and they didn't run it well on this one either

680
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: Man two point two yards that carry UM Sometimes that

681
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: I just think they get a little bit lopsided in

682
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: the way they do things and put too much on

683
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Bucky mentioned it, it's like watching Chase Daniel

684
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: function this offense is very similar to what you see

685
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater functioning in New Orleans. Point that's that's great

686
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,239
Speaker 1: when your defense gonna hold somebody to six points. Um,

687
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: I just think true risk. Even though you have some

688
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: highs and lows, he's got some upside. There's potential that

689
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: you get good Mitch. If you get good Mitch, you

690
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: can win a game that finds its way into the thirties.

691
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: I don't think with Chase Daniel you're gonna win many

692
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: games that find their way up there. Fortunately their defense

693
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: doesn't play many of those. God just sounds that the

694
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: Bears need. Uh, Like you know, a big, physical running

695
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: back Jordan Howard type feeling that right? Okay, alright, you

696
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: look great last year in that offense. Nobody likes back.

697
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: You can score touchdowns. Go ahead. I mean you are

698
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: right though, Like, if the Bears are gonna play this style,

699
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,239
Speaker 1: they have to be able to run the ball. They

700
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: have to be able to play a little more possession,

701
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: keep the ball, focus on it, um, allow of their

702
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: defense to be at peak performance, meaning they're nice and

703
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: fresh and health and ready to go. And so this

704
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: is a team that did it without Rokuan Smith and

705
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: a couple other guys, and so very impressive performance. And

706
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: when I look at the Minnesota Vikings on the other hand, man,

707
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: you talk about having a nice car, you're talking about

708
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: a Rolls Royce, but for whatever reason, you're not able

709
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: to drive it. They only let you drive it. Half

710
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: Sunday evening is the only time that you can drive

711
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: the car. They're not letting Kirk Cousins and Stefon Diggs

712
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: and Adam Feeland. They're not letting those guys kind of

713
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: get out on the freeway. They don't get us. You

714
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: have to go on to four or five. Oh, that's

715
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: a shame, man, that's a shame. Um. But you bad man.

716
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: You look at it. My question is what don't they

717
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: have a buck at two with this? All right? So

718
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: when you look at the improvements they've made on the

719
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: offensive line, Dalvin Cook being healthy coming until this game

720
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: and playing at a high level. You've got quide receivers,

721
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: You've got a decent tight end, You've got a play

722
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: caller at an offense that really is the offense where

723
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins had success in Baltimore, same exact system. It's

724
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: baffling man, it's it's unbelievable. Man. I thought he would

725
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: have every opportunity to play well and he just just

726
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: hasn't played well. And sometimes it takes a while from atflick. Uh.

727
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: Maybe it's still the adjusting to the new offense. But

728
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: at some point I gotta believe. You're a Minnesota Vikings fan,

729
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: you have Minnesota Vikings of Fisher. You have to look

730
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: and say, man, we need better at the quarterback position. Yeah,

731
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: you know who is finding that magic at the quarterback position? Oh,

732
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: come on, bucket to get us to it. The Jags

733
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: might have found their franchise quarterback Cornet back in the

734
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: game three receiver set shotgun pump. Fact, they throw to

735
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: the middle of the field up all is caught. That

736
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: ball is caught Lindon, but he ends on the James

737
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: don't chaunasy touchdown? Touchdown? Menshoo, Shawnathy and jack him Bill,

738
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: let's take in the lead. How unsure was that about

739
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: the the guy about that call right there, He's like,

740
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: it's a thes are gonna take the lead. Unbelievable, surprising, Hey, man,

741
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's time that we have to kind

742
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: of do a deep dive on Garnaments. You governments, who

743
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: has really given this team life? Um, you can see

744
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: what each week this team is growing more confident and

745
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: believing in him as the franchise quarterback. And if he

746
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: keep delivering these games, these wins, Uh, it's gonna be

747
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: tough for Nick Foles to come and kind of take

748
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: his job back. Garnament shoot seven and one touchdown. The

749
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 1: interception ratio four games into the season. You just don't

750
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: see that in the higher highest passing rating and time

751
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: for your first and completion percentage by rookie in the

752
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: first four games of the Super Bowl era, like that

753
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: is crazy one or six point nine then sixty nine

754
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: point four percent completion rate. You just don't see guys

755
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: come off the collegiate field step into of pros and

756
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: have this kind of success. Man, it's fun to watch,

757
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you know the difference between Gardner

758
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 1: Minshew and Baker Mayfield. That's a smile. That's one wants

759
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 1: to be the hero, one wants to be the villain

760
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: once with a scowl and one, yeah, one's got a scowl,

761
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 1: one's got a smile. But I mean that their games

762
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: when you watch him and people think that that's crazy. No, no, no,

763
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: When you watch them and just watch their mannerisms, how

764
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 1: they move, Uh, they're a little bit frenetic, but they're

765
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: they you can definitely tell they bring energy to their teams.

766
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: And Baker has a little bit stronger arm. But man,

767
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: their mannerisms and everything, it looks like even both were

768
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 1: headbands for crying out. The only difference is that that

769
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: Gardner Mens looks like he's actually, you know, smiling and

770
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: enjoying life. I mean, probably because you're wearing those joys

771
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: looking like Napoleon Dynamite. He's kind of doing Baker Mayfield

772
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: Ward shorts in his draft picture where he re enacted

773
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: the breadth fall. These guys might be related. They might

774
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 1: they might be related. They both playing, and he feels

775
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: just upset he can't find with the marker of that

776
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: fuse for the blender inside the stadium him. You guys

777
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: seen that one that commercial? Yeah, that's a really good

778
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: all right, Okay, what else we got here? Buck? The

779
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 1: Seahawks flex their muscles. Second down in five, Marie try

780
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: gets intercepted Towny. Hello, Mr Clowney touchdown Hawks J Devion

781
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: Clowney stretched out, reached his arm almost to the ceiling

782
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: here at State Farm Stadium, pulled the ball down on

783
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: a screen pass and took it about thirty yards for six. Look,

784
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: make no mistake about it, when the Seattle Serris are

785
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: playing the right way. Their team that has led by

786
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: their defense, their running game, and the playmaking of Russell Wilson.

787
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: What we saw against the Garnolds, they played to their

788
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: trans physical run game. You saw Carson with over a

789
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: hundred yards, Russell Wilson with two forty passing yards. We

790
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,439
Speaker 1: saw the defense come up big um with the big

791
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: time play with Jadeveon Clowney having an interception return. And

792
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: so this is how they have to play. This is

793
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: their recipe. They kind of have to outwork you out,

794
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: will you kind of beat you up in the line

795
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. They were able to do that, which is

796
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: why they moved forward with another win. Yeah, I mean, look,

797
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting when you look at that division. Guys,

798
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: sorry by that right, when you look at this division,

799
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fascinating. Man. Uh. You look at the

800
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: way the Niners are playing right now, They're undefeated. They

801
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: gotta buy this week. Look at the Rams who you

802
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: know high highs and then a real tough loss for

803
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: them against Tampa, but obviously a team coming off a

804
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: Super Bowl apparentce you know what you've got there. And

805
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: the Seattle team, well, I think it's got a real

806
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: chance to win this division and make some noise it

807
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: to me, it's the best division of football right now.

808
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: And the only team not holding up there into the

809
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: bargain is the team, um that had the number one

810
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 1: pick last year and Kyler Murray. And it's way early,

811
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: and I think Kyler Murray, we looked we got a

812
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: long way to go here. But the thought for the

813
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: first time went through my head. And maybe it's because

814
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: I was watching Josh Rosen in that Charger game. Um,

815
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: who you know, but he's gonna be successful there. But Buck,

816
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: I want to ask you this, if you allow your

817
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: mind to go there for a second. Alright, look at

818
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: this Cardinals team not winning any games. Do you sit

819
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: there and go, huh, what if we had Rosen and

820
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: then we also had Nick Bosa, who's helping us really

821
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: really heat up some quarterbacks here. Because that's what we

822
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: were saying about that whole deal. It's not just you know,

823
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: Rosen versus versus Kyler Murray. It's also the opportunity that

824
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: you gave up to to pick another player which could

825
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: have complimented Josh Rosen. Now it's a long way to go,

826
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: but right now, I just that was the first time

827
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 1: that Okay, we'll see, we'll see what Josh Rosen. Eventually,

828
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: he'll probably another team next year and hopefully it gets

829
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: a better opportunity. But that is gonna be a discussion

830
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: people are gonna look back on. Yeah, I think it's

831
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 1: gonna be a discussion. There's two reasons why the discussion

832
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: is going to come into play. One would be this

833
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: situation that you talked about with the Arizona Cardinals, Cala Murray,

834
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen. What about if we took the packaging, meaning

835
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: we took Josh Rosen and Nick Bosa, then other teams

836
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: are gonna look at what the Giants have been able

837
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: to do. Because the Giants win and guests Akawon Barkley

838
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: and then they have Daniel Jones to go to young

839
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: nucleus that they're building around those players, maybe they look

840
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: like they may be a step ahead of the curve

841
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: when it comes to others uh in rebuilding. And so

842
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: you know, Aris on the Cordiners. You made a decision,

843
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: then you've got to figure out how to do it.

844
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: The issue that I have with the Cardinals they have

845
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 1: to be able to run the ball because they're wasting

846
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: a talent in David Jones. They're not They're not doing that.

847
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 1: So what are they gonna do? What is the plan?

848
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: What is the big plan for Steve com and those guys,

849
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: because I can't imagine that the sea would be hot

850
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Speaker 1: for Kingsbury like they have to kind of ride this

851
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Speaker 1: out because they're not. They're not gonna pay that much

852
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Speaker 1: money for coaches. Sit them sale. Yeah, buck buck, you

853
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 1: look at it through the numbers. I tweeted it out right.

854
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Speaker 1: Eighteen sacks last year for Kyler Murray and fourteen games

855
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Speaker 1: at Oklahoma. Eighteen and fourteen games. He's played four NFL games,

856
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: he's been sacked twenty times. So we're not at Oklahoma anymore.

857
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: It's a different ball game now, he's got to get

858
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Speaker 1: the ball out of his hand. Man, We're not in

859
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma anymore. I get it. I get it. Look, man,

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Speaker 1: I think you're right about that, and I think I'm

861
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Speaker 1: int listed in the Seahawks as well. Moving forward, there's

862
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Speaker 1: there's always a team that kind of exceeds expectations. Big

863
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Speaker 1: game on Thursday against the Rams, kickoff week five, Thursday

864
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Speaker 1: Night Football right here in NFL Network, No question, Um,

865
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Speaker 1: I think we'll learn a lot more about both of

866
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Speaker 1: those teams on Thursday night, the Rams and the Seahawks.

867
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: And then in turn this division and we see the

868
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: forty niners against the Steelers or against the Browns on

869
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: Monday night. So all right, should we get to our final, Yeah,

870
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Speaker 1: let's do it. The Saints show off their grit. Prescott

871
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: under center Dallas snaps his ball, handoff goes to Zeke Elliott,

872
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: who slips through the tackle in the backfield to Mario

873
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: Davis had him that it's gonna be marked right around

874
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: the first down. Marker will depend on the spot short

875
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: that ball came out, as will that ball came out.

876
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: Those referees are certainly passed where the down of cane was.

877
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: But the Saints have the football. Bomb Bell has the

878
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: football in his hand, ball came Jephers calls it that

879
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: all is out. The safe book take over at their

880
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: own forty three yard n You know, when you you're

881
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: talking about winning games, you talk about finding a way

882
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: to win. You talking about being able to bounce back

883
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: from adverse situations. The New Orleans Saints show their resiliency,

884
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: They show their toughness, They basically show their grit. I

885
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: guess the Dallas Cowboys. When I watched this game, I

886
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: felt like the New a Than Saints out hit the

887
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: Cowboys more physical, more pressure, more toughness. And then the

888
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: way they played on the offense was about controlling the

889
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: game and really managing the cloud, managing opportunities, limiting the

890
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 1: opportunities for the Dallas Cowboys. Because remember we may say

891
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys need to play a certain way to win,

892
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: it takes a lot of possessions to be able to

893
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: do that. They didn't have enough possessions because they started

894
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: cutting the clock down from the beginning. UH. Smart game

895
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: plan from the New Orleans Saints gave themselves the best

896
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: opportunity to win, and they got it done. The thing

897
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: I'll say about this for the Cowboys sign of things

898
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: is they had back to back possessions in the second

899
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: half where they fumbled the football. Jason went and fumbled

900
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: the midfield and then the Ezekiel Elliott fourth and one,

901
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: which should have been a conversion if he hangs onto

902
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 1: the football, you know, and this could be a different

903
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 1: ball game. And I know they really struggled to run

904
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 1: the football and dj I, I know you're gonna get

905
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: into that on the aftermath a little bit as well.

906
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: The reason why, Yeah, to me, look, there's teams that

907
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: are built different ways. We always talked about it on here.

908
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: You know, what's your formula, how how how do you

909
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: get it done? And for the Dallas Cowboys, while some

910
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: teams might be quarterback driven, some teams might be run

911
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: game driven, the Dallas Cowboys are offensive line driven. And

912
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: they just got whooped up front in this game. The

913
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints defensive front dominated them, and it was

914
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: all the way across. They ran a lot of games

915
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: inside with their interior. Two rankins was very disruptive in here.

916
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 1: But the first time we saw some rust on Travis

917
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: Frederick Um, the first time he struggled picking up some

918
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 1: twists inside. Marcus Davenports showed up Cam Jordan. You knew

919
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: what you're gonna get from him. But they dominated one

920
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: of the best offensive lines in the NFL, Dak Prescott.

921
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people were like, oh, you know,

922
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: this shows what this had nothing to do with Dak Prescott.

923
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: He didn't fumble the ball. Jason wouldn't fumbled the ball.

924
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott was not bad in this football game. Their

925
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: offensive line got man handled. They couldn't run the ball,

926
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 1: they couldn't protect them. That was end of story. That's it.

927
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: That that was this ball game. You tip your cap

928
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: to the New Orleans Saints in their front. They took

929
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: over the game. Yeah, they didn't take over the game.

930
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: And I think this is the one where keller More

931
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 1: needs to go back and kind of do a self

932
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: analysis on the way did he call it the game.

933
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: This is a game that kind of get away from

934
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: what we've heard to be the pillars of the run

935
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: game being able to dominated control of big offensive line,

936
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: dominating onting the weight room with the scale guys on

937
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: the conditioning and track with with the other guys. What

938
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: I saw, I saw the New Orleans Saints execute all

939
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: of the little mantras that I've heard Sean pay kind

940
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: of throw out throughout the offseason. This team played like

941
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: a desperate team. This team believed that they were tougher,

942
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: they're more physical, and they imposed their will on the Cowboys.

943
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: At the end of the game and there's nothing else.

944
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: I just don't know, Buck, But like, what are the

945
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 1: magic play calls? Like? Because I heard a lot of

946
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: people getting on killing Moore. I'm like, if you're not

947
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: blocking anybody, you can't run the ball? What what? What? What?

948
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: What play calls you? When they can play with two

949
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: high safety because your fronts getting destroy There's not a

950
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: whole lot you can do with the football. Man, And

951
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: they tried to run the well, they couldn't run the ball.

952
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: Couldn't run the ball, dude, I mean running up against

953
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: the brick a brick wall like it. So they're trying

954
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: to find a way to to make it, to make

955
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,439
Speaker 1: it happen. But it's tough. It's tough because I feel

956
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 1: like both of these scenes whereas even as they come,

957
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: but if you had to ask me, like if they

958
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: did a rematch in the playoffs, like would the outcome change?

959
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just feel like New Orleans just

960
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: has a savvy the experience. They kind of know how

961
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: to get it done. And even though they had three

962
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: guys on the sideline, there's still enough leadership in that

963
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 1: in that room to figure out to get it right,

964
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: to get them going where they need to be going. Yeah,

965
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: and think. The last thing I'll say was I thought

966
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: it was interesting on the last play. I think we've

967
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: seen this a few times in the past when teams

968
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: roll through a hail Mary and you may rush three, right,

969
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: you're still dropping all those guys back, but then you

970
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: send a guy you blitzed. What's a guy from depth? Yeah?

971
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: That was great, I mean great, I think that's awesome.

972
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Speaker 1: Make the make the throw go quick. Didn't even get

973
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 1: I mean really gets a ten yard line on a

974
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: throw I think on the hail mary. So look, it's

975
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: one of those things that look it's it's the game, right, Yeah,

976
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,960
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979
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Speaker 1: You're like risk little kids? Yeah, I go throw some

983
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Speaker 1: right there? Ten full ounce? Is there? Oh? Ten fas

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Speaker 1: We've got No, that's crazy. I can't wait tomorrow to

1010
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Speaker 1: talk about all the college stuff, the college stuff. College.

1011
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: There's some stuff to dig into there for sure, for sure.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, I wish you could have done us

1013
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Speaker 1: a favor and beat Clemson so we could get in

1014
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1015
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Speaker 1: I don't know how that would have at any impact

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Speaker 1: you guys get into touch five. I don't know what

1017
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Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, people are like, wait, Carolina

1019
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:14,239
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Speaker 1: thank you, just picking absolutely. We'll talk about that tough

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