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Speaker 1: do have a big election coming up here, obviously, midterms

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Speaker 1: looming almost at Labor Day, so once we everyone comes

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Speaker 1: back from the Labor Day holiday, we know it's then

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Speaker 1: just a sprint to the finish to see what the

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Speaker 1: balance of power will be in well Congress. But also

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Speaker 1: and a lot of other races all across the country,

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Speaker 1: state and local races. There were some good news we

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Speaker 1: didn't talk about earlier this week, but the Florida In

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Speaker 1: the Florida races, Clay there was. There were some Desantists

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Speaker 1: backed school board members who did very well, which was interesting.

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Speaker 1: I think we need to start thinking about how to

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Speaker 1: get back to what caused that moment of panic for

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Speaker 1: Democrats in the off year election that occurred where Glenn

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Speaker 1: Youngkin became the governor of Virginia, where they almost lost

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Speaker 1: the governor's mansion. In New Jersey, people forget this. Democrats

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Speaker 1: came shockingly close to losing to a Republican in the

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Speaker 1: state of New Jersey. Schools and who's in charge of

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Speaker 1: educating your children? What they're doing to your kids, not

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Speaker 1: just with COVID, but with the indoctrination and the transagenda

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Speaker 1: that was all so important. I think there's been a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a people have lost this focus a

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Speaker 1: little bit and were trying to make the message stick

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Speaker 1: right now, Yeah, inflation okay, But the problem inflation, Clay

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Speaker 1: is I think that people start to get they're almost

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Speaker 1: price it into their thinking. You know, when when it

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Speaker 1: starts ramping up, everyone goes, oh my gosh. But then

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Speaker 1: they're their motivation from inflation to vote out the party

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Speaker 1: that caused it might not be quite as high, and

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Speaker 1: it's all about timing. Van Jones, who, as I've said

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Speaker 1: thinks things are looking really good for Team Democrat. I

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Speaker 1: want to address this with you, Clay. We have this

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Speaker 1: feeling like, look, the Republicans have been doing terrible stuff

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Speaker 1: when it comes to January sixth, excusingly inexcusable, and women

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Speaker 1: are standing up across the country. So I think right now,

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Speaker 1: with the economy being terrible, you expect Republicans it'd be

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Speaker 1: just crushing us everywhere, and they're not. So He's right

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Speaker 1: about they're not based on the polls right now. But

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Speaker 1: also speak more about what the agenda is. And that

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Speaker 1: brings me to schools. It brings me to the economy.

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Speaker 1: There are a number of areas where it's not just

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Speaker 1: enough to say Biden is a senile buffoon, because yes,

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Speaker 1: we know, but obviously that's not pushing the numbers enough

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Speaker 1: a redoubling of the effort. Yeah, and look, so this

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Speaker 1: there's a good editorial in the Wall Street Journal talking

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Speaker 1: We've got to overturn Roe v. Wade. We've got to

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Speaker 1: the outcome here in New York is not what you're

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Speaker 1: be determined based on abortion. It's also fascinating to hear

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Speaker 1: no change in the status, talk about an assault on freedom.

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Speaker 1: This is a Supreme Court decision. It's not the Republican

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Speaker 1: Party didn't just pass a law. The Supreme Court said,

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Speaker 1: state level, you get to determine what it is that

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Speaker 1: I think Democrats very much want to believe this. I

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Speaker 1: I've always felt like the single issue vote on abortion,

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Speaker 1: should make every decision based on that. Right. My personal

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Speaker 1: should be a referendum on Biden's incompetence basically everywhere. But

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Speaker 1: what you just heard, I think is important, and I

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Speaker 1: in the wake of this decision, and so my argument

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Speaker 1: would be, look, most Republicans should focus on nine month abortions,

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Speaker 1: and that's what Blake Masters is doing right now. You

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Speaker 1: it out because the extreme position. To me, the vast

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Speaker 1: majority of Americans believe that third term abortions should not

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Speaker 1: be legal, and they simultaneously believe and again, I understand

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Speaker 1: this a complex issue and a lot of people have

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Speaker 1: a variety of opinions that rape, incest, all of those

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Speaker 1: should should be exceptions, right, and that there should be

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Speaker 1: a line somewhere somewhere in the first trimester where this occurs.

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Speaker 1: Right now. I understand this is a complex issue, but

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Speaker 1: ten percent of people that say abortion should be legal

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Speaker 1: the differences the Democrat Party's official platform, that's what you

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Speaker 1: no you know, in the Republican Party, you can have

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Speaker 1: So they're they're they're overwhelmingly going to be in favor

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Speaker 1: Democrat Party, you're it's all nine months, there's no I mean,

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Speaker 1: All nine months, no, no, no restriction. They voted for

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Speaker 1: as a law. They voted in the Senate on the

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Speaker 1: So I think, and I know it's an uncomfortable conversation. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but we gotta have it, Clay, Right, The Republicans have

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Speaker 1: got to have it. They gotta go on offensive. They

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Speaker 1: gotta say, look, I'm sorry, folks, the Democrat parties in

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Speaker 1: favor of murder, full stop. There. They're in favor of

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Speaker 1: legalized murder. That is the reality, scientific, moral, and ethical

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Speaker 1: like onflation onflation. Yeah, okay, we know about the inflation.

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Speaker 1: But you know the other problem is Clay, that a

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Speaker 1: Everybody notices it, even though inflation is still at forty

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Speaker 1: think Buck yours, which one we've argued here is the

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Speaker 1: Democrat position on abortion used to be safe, legal, and rare,

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Speaker 1: like in the nineties. That's what they would argue. That's

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Speaker 1: The Democrat Party, the Democrat Party is openly and I

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Speaker 1: mean they should say this. It is true. They are

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Speaker 1: reality of the Democrat Party today. It's a harsh thing

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Speaker 1: for people to hear it is true. Otherwise, explain the

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Speaker 1: We have got a ton to discuss as we come

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Speaker 1: up on Joe Biden's now five hundred billion dollars plus

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Speaker 1: your property. Yes, and then the government does take some

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Speaker 1: of it through taxation, and we're always fighting back to

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Speaker 1: limit that. I think taxes are far too high in

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Speaker 1: this country. And there's a whole conversation that we had

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Speaker 1: about this. But the fundamental philosophical position of the left

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Speaker 1: little bit of an allowance, and we, the American people,

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Speaker 1: are the ones getting the allowance. Essentially, the government can

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Speaker 1: take whatever it wants and spend whatever it wants and

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Speaker 1: then decide what we all get to have. They really

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Speaker 1: invert the basic logic of whose property is it? Anyway,

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Speaker 1: who's really calling the shots and who's in charge here.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's I think at this point in time

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Speaker 1: abroad understanding that Biden and the people around him know

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Speaker 1: nothing about making an economy better. That anyone knows how

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Speaker 1: to spend money. And you can find any fool who

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Speaker 1: can run up a credit card debt or who can

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Speaker 1: spend somebody else's money and write the checks. That's the

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Speaker 1: easiest thing in the world. That's what the spide and

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Speaker 1: White House knows how to do. The creating the foundation,

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Speaker 1: creating the framework for growth, prosperity, rule of law, innovation,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff they clay, I honestly think they don't

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Speaker 1: even know, and they don't think they care either. They

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Speaker 1: just want to spend what's out there, and they don't

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Speaker 1: worry about whether or not the American people are getting

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Speaker 1: squeezed and it's being made more difficult for them, and

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Speaker 1: certainly the class optics of this, this is going to

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Speaker 1: be a lot of people getting paid off. I mean,

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Speaker 1: people looked at the decision do I go to college

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Speaker 1: do not go to college, and some said I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to go because I don't want the debt. Yep.

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Speaker 1: And the government is now saying well, I guess you're

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Speaker 1: a sucker because we're going to cancel ten thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, I think that's just a starting point.

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Speaker 1: If they get this through to your point, it's not legal.

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Speaker 1: Not legal. Also, Buck, it doesn't end. So the five

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Speaker 1: hundred billion dollars in cost, there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: kids that are going to be taken out college loans

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Speaker 1: over the next several years. Do you think those kids

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Speaker 1: aren't going to be clamoring in ten or fifteen years

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Speaker 1: for their loans to be forgiven in the same way.

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Speaker 1: So Biden doesn't have the constitutional authority to do what

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Speaker 1: he's doing. But this doesn't end, Bucks, So you just

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Speaker 1: start to say, Okay, it's five hundred billion dollars now,

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Speaker 1: well in ten years, it's probably gonna be another five

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Speaker 1: hundred billion at least. We're talking about trillions of dollars

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Speaker 1: in promises that actually encourage people to take out more

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Speaker 1: debt because they're now will be people who will say, well,

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Speaker 1: this seems like a lot of money, but if the

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Speaker 1: government's going to forgive it in the future, then maybe

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Speaker 1: I can take this loan out. I don't even need

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Speaker 1: to worry about it. Democrats also love price controls. We

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Speaker 1: just went through this over the summer. You remember when

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Speaker 1: the Democrats were given all these sound bites on gas

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Speaker 1: stations just need to lower their prices. Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 1: Gas stations just charged less for their product, as if

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Speaker 1: it's not a global market in fossil fuels. And as

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Speaker 1: you pointed out apt Lee, gas stations actually make a

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Speaker 1: lot of their money on the convenience. More no money

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Speaker 1: you go there for the gas. They make their money

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Speaker 1: on the uh, you know, the Hostess cupcakes or whatever

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Speaker 1: that you're buying, which can be delicious on a long nature.

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Speaker 1: Let's be fatastic, yea. And I think that it's funny

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Speaker 1: to see how they'll call for that for private industry.

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Speaker 1: But you can't even private universities aren't really private because

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Speaker 1: they've been propped up by this taxpayer, taxpayer backstop. It's

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Speaker 1: like they've celindraize the entire higher education system where the

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Speaker 1: taxpayers on the hook, not the actual person setting the

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Speaker 1: prices and engaging in the process or the product here.

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Speaker 1: And so why don't they just tell them? Why don't

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Speaker 1: we just tell all universities. You know what, guys, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say why don't I don't believe in price controls,

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Speaker 1: but I'm saying democrats could just say you can't charge

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Speaker 1: more than thirty grand a year for college education, where

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Speaker 1: we're just gonna federally cap this, if we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: federally back student loans. They won't do it. And they

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Speaker 1: won't do it because the multi billion dollar hedge funds.

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Speaker 1: I mean, my school I think has like a two

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Speaker 1: billion dollars endowment now Clays sixteen hundred students. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: that they don't really aggressively go after the hedge fund

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Speaker 1: the massive endowments that these universities have either. So why

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Speaker 1: if you're going to forgive all this student sorry, four

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Speaker 1: billion dollars, four billion dollars, sixteen hundred students my college,

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Speaker 1: just to give a sense of how much money these

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Speaker 1: places have accrued. Go given the fact that we're effectively

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Speaker 1: passing five hundred billion dollars at minimum as a gift

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Speaker 1: to all these institutions of higher learning because they already

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Speaker 1: got paid for their education, why don't we ask the

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Speaker 1: schools to refund some of the some of the loan costs, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, why don't we tax their endowments at an

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Speaker 1: insanely high rate if you actually want to get some

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Speaker 1: of this back, and at what point this just makes

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Speaker 1: things worse when it comes to the cost of higher education.

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Speaker 1: These universities are not being run. What do we say yesterday?

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Speaker 1: There are two things that seem to be broken from

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Speaker 1: a purpose of business, right, universities and health in medical care. Right, Well,

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Speaker 1: those are the two things. When you look on a chart.

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Speaker 1: Over the last forty years, people complain about the cost

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Speaker 1: depending on where you are and the timing, that can

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Speaker 1: very much be true. No matter where you are in

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Speaker 1: the United States, university or college education and healthcare has

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Speaker 1: gotten wildly more expensive over the last forty years. And

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Speaker 1: the competition, and then what's unique there is the competition

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Speaker 1: element is broken. Just think about it. If you go

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Speaker 1: buy a car, you are let's say you're going to

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Speaker 1: buy a Ford, there are multiple Ford dealerships that you're

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Speaker 1: competing with to try to get the best price, the

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Speaker 1: shopping for groceries, grocery margins are tiny, and grocery stores

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Speaker 1: are fighting all the time. Even as we mentioned gas stations.

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Speaker 1: It's not a coincidence that a gas station on one

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Speaker 1: side of the street and a gas station on the

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Speaker 1: other side of the street are constantly competing on the

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Speaker 1: pennies to see which one can offer the best price

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Speaker 1: on gas. Universities are the opposite. They're not competing on

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Speaker 1: price buy and large hardly at all. And again, if

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Speaker 1: you go into a hospital, your point yesterday was great, Buck,

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Speaker 1: you were talking about elective surgery on your ankle, and

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Speaker 1: They weren't sure what the cost is going to be. Like,

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Speaker 1: that's not a market based solution at all. Come back

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Speaker 1: McCarthy from National Review and Andy, I just want to

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Speaker 1: get right to it. It's essentially the where is this

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Speaker 1: all going question? With the Marlago raid. Clay just asked

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Speaker 1: you before the break, are we heading toward criminal charges

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Speaker 1: of some kind against former President Trump? And where is

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Speaker 1: this going? I don't think they want to charge Trump

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Speaker 1: with document retention offenses. One of the reasons I say

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Speaker 1: that is ordinary in a criminal investigation, when you're ready

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Speaker 1: you have probable quote for an arrest. My sense is

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Speaker 1: that they want the documents back. I'm not so sure

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Speaker 1: that they want to get into the whole morass, like

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Speaker 1: the first prosecution in history against a former president over

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Speaker 1: document retention offenses. Now, the classified information stuff is serious.

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Speaker 1: It's more serious than I would have thought it was

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Speaker 1: at the beginning. And we don't know what the obstruction

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Speaker 1: evidence is, which depending on what their evidence of that is.

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Speaker 1: They say in the warrant that they have obstruction evidence,

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Speaker 1: we haven't seen it. So I'd like to know what

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Speaker 1: that is. But I've always thought that they're trying to

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Speaker 1: make a January sixth case on them, because if they're

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Speaker 1: going to do something as drastic as actually indict a

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Speaker 1: former president, they want to make sure that it's over

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Speaker 1: something that's very, very serious. And I think Garland knows that.

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Speaker 1: So my sense is that part of the reason that

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Speaker 1: they're fighting a thing about disclosing the affidavit is they

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Speaker 1: were hoping to get the documents back and then this

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Speaker 1: whole thing kind of goes away unless they can make

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Speaker 1: a January sixth case. But I could be wrong. So

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Speaker 1: how much politics do you think goes into making a

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Speaker 1: decision like this? And the reason why Andy I'm asking

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Speaker 1: is to me, this has made Donald Trump politically stronger,

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Speaker 1: And part of being a prosecutor is understanding what the

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Speaker 1: likelihood is of getting convictions not getting convictions. As you

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Speaker 1: well know, discretion sometimes can be the better part of valor.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't you have to consider the politics almost more than

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Speaker 1: you would the law here? Yeah, I don't see how

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Speaker 1: you could avoid a clay for a variety of reasons.

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Speaker 1: Like it's always seemed to me stupid for Biden to

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Speaker 1: act like, oh, I have nothing to do with this

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Speaker 1: when you know, in point of fact, like in order

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Speaker 1: for the FBI to get access to Trump's records, Biden

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Speaker 1: had to approve that under the Presidential Records Act. If

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Speaker 1: if Trump tried to prevent them from seeing it by

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Speaker 1: asserting executive privilege, Biden had to weigh in on that.

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Speaker 1: So it wasn't like, you know, he's reaching out. He's

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Speaker 1: required by law to be involved in this. And what

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Speaker 1: they're saying is the critical thing here is the national

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Speaker 1: security information. National security is the president's most important job.

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Speaker 1: So yes, it's all tinged with politics, but you know,

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Speaker 1: sometimes that's that's the job, you know, And if they

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Speaker 1: don't prosecute them, though, Andy, we all got about a minute,

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Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, doesn't it look like it was really

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Speaker 1: heavy handed to send him the fbither to get back

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Speaker 1: the docs or because they really want you know, better

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Speaker 1: than I do. It really depends on how serious those

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Speaker 1: that classified information is. I mean, they could have had

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Speaker 1: really bad stuff down there that they shouldn't have had,

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Speaker 1: and they needed that back. It's a good point, Andy.

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Speaker 1: I also feel like, why would Trump or anyone who

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Speaker 1: works for Trump want that stuff? Like there's there's no

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Speaker 1: value to such stuff for them to so for people

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Speaker 1: to think about, why would it be important for the

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Speaker 1: archives to have it. Thank you for the time, Andy McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: and we come back. Important correction on Kim Kardashian. I

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Speaker 1: thought we'd have to say this, Buck Oh, welcome back

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Speaker 1: in appreciate everybody hanging out with us. We'll give you

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Speaker 1: the Kim Kardashian correction at the end of the show.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe we have to issue a Kim Kardashian correction.

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Speaker 1: We're joined now by Eli Crane, former Navy seal small

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Speaker 1: business owner, husband, dad, and native Arizona. Eli. The week

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Speaker 1: after nine eleven, you left school to join the Navy

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Speaker 1: five wartime deployments three two Iraq as a sniper with

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Speaker 1: Seal Team three. Tell me how this all came to

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Speaker 1: be a post nine eleven and I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: another guy in Arizona did basically the same thing, Pat Tillman,

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Speaker 1: who a lot of people know that story. How did

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Speaker 1: you make the decision to leave the University of Arizona,

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Speaker 1: What is your life been like since? And what district

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Speaker 1: are you running for? So everybody listening to us in

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Speaker 1: Arizona can make sure they vote for you. Hey, thanks

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Speaker 1: for having me on, Buck, I appreciate it. So I'm

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Speaker 1: running in congressional district too, against the country's most vulnerable democrat,

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Speaker 1: Tom O'Halloran. You know, like thousands of Americans, the week

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Speaker 1: after nine to eleven, I actually decided to drop out

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Speaker 1: of school. And I was just I just really believed

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Speaker 1: that it was my time to step up for this country.

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Speaker 1: I know many men and women in generations before me

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Speaker 1: did the same thing for this country to protect some

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Speaker 1: of the freedoms and prosperities that we have here. And

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Speaker 1: I knew that that was a pivotal moment in our history,

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Speaker 1: and I knew the next generation needed to step up.

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Speaker 1: And I realized, Buck, that I could go back to

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Speaker 1: school at any time, so I wanted to do that.

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Speaker 1: I did that. Unfortunately for me, I didn't make it

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Speaker 1: through seal training my first time. I had to go

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Speaker 1: back and do it a second time. But I'm grateful

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Speaker 1: just that I got a chance to serve my country

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Speaker 1: and serve with some of the finest on the planet. Hey,

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Speaker 1: like the district you're running in, I mean, obviously you're

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Speaker 1: spending a lot of time talking to the people, your constituents,

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Speaker 1: and figuring out what is top of mind for them.

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Speaker 1: And Clay and I've been discussing this. It looks like

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Speaker 1: right now the polls aren't quite as strong nationwide for

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Speaker 1: Republicans and some of these races as we'd like to

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Speaker 1: see them. The red wave is feeling more like it

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Speaker 1: could be, at least some people think a red ripple.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually still pretty confident. What are people telling you,

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Speaker 1: I mean, what are the top of mind the issues

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Speaker 1: for the voters that you're speaking to an Arizona's second

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Speaker 1: Congressional Well, I think the economy and immigration are two

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Speaker 1: of the big the big ones here. People also in

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Speaker 1: this district and in Arizona generally are really upset and

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Speaker 1: fired up about our elections as well. They don't feel

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Speaker 1: like our elections are tight or as transparent as the

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Speaker 1: mainstream media would have us believe. You know. So those

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Speaker 1: are those are a couple of really big things right

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Speaker 1: there that you know, Arizonans, especially in this district, want

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Speaker 1: to see turned around. And the worst part about it

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Speaker 1: is because I think we can all agree that you know,

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the border um and also the economy,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's our own, it's our own fault.

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Speaker 1: It's our own doing. And so that's I think what

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Speaker 1: rubs people, you know, the wrong way so hard is

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Speaker 1: that they're trying to struggle, you know, just to make

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Speaker 1: ends meet, make sure their kids can go to school,

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Speaker 1: make sure that they have gas in the tank, and

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Speaker 1: they can afford groceries. Meanwhile, this administration continues um to

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Speaker 1: you know, promote, promote bills and legislation and uncontrolled spending

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Speaker 1: that continues to put us into a deeper and deeper hole.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to a guy who I hope all of

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Speaker 1: the voters out there are going to support Eli Crane. Eli. Again,

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Speaker 1: I encourage everybody to support you. But you mentioned something

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Speaker 1: that I wanted to unpack. You said you had to

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Speaker 1: try twice as a Navy seal. This is grueling, This

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Speaker 1: is believably difficult. You made it as a second time.

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Speaker 1: What happened the first time that you tapped out? And

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Speaker 1: how tough was this? I know our audience loves the

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Speaker 1: dedication Navy seals bring to bear. What was that training

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Speaker 1: like for you? And why did you make it a

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Speaker 1: second time after not making it the first? You know, well,

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Speaker 1: it was it was brutal, and it's designed to be

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Speaker 1: that way and for good reason, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: why the Seal teams produced some of the best warriors

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Speaker 1: on the planet. But for me, honestly, the first time

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Speaker 1: I showed up Buck, I you know, I wasn't I

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Speaker 1: wasn't as prepared as I could have been. You know,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't as mature as I could have been. You know,

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Speaker 1: I was more focused on myself and you know, staying

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Speaker 1: inside my comfort zone. And I wasn't as quick to

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Speaker 1: get out of my comfort zone to help one of

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Speaker 1: my brothers, you know, when they were in you know,

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Speaker 1: when they were carrying more weight or when they needed help.

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Speaker 1: And that's something that you know, the Seal instructors, they'll

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Speaker 1: smell on you really quickly. Are you more are you

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Speaker 1: more focused on your own comfort or will you get

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Speaker 1: outside your comfort zone to you know, help one of

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Speaker 1: your brothers and a time and need and they have

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Speaker 1: a bunch of different ways to expose that. And I

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Speaker 1: just wasn't ready. I wasn't mature enough. And I actually

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Speaker 1: made it through how week, my first my first attempt

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Speaker 1: and stilled training. But they told me, young man, you're

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Speaker 1: not ready, and we suggest that you come back and

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Speaker 1: in a year. It took me two and a half

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Speaker 1: years to come back. But I'm grateful Buck, that they

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Speaker 1: held the standards where they were. I'm grateful that I

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Speaker 1: learned a tough lesson in life, and I'm grateful that,

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Speaker 1: you know, I actually came back and made it through.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Eli Crane. He's running for Congress in Arizona.

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Speaker 1: It's Buck, Eli, and I'm just wondering what you think

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Speaker 1: about the three billion. I think it was yesterday that

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Speaker 1: they just decided was going to additional three billion going

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Speaker 1: to go to Ukraine. I mean, you know the face

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Speaker 1: of warfare. You know what it's like to be outside

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Speaker 1: the wire and in a conflict zone. What do you

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Speaker 1: think is going on over there? Well, you know, guys,

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Speaker 1: when I look at, you know, this issue, like I

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Speaker 1: look at every issue, I'm an America First candidate, So

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Speaker 1: I try and put that America first lens between everything

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Speaker 1: I look at. And when I look at the war

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Speaker 1: in Ukraine and I look at all the money that

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Speaker 1: we continue to send over, I look and I see

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Speaker 1: the fact that we still don't have a southern border.

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Speaker 1: We have people pouring over that border every single day.

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Speaker 1: We've got over thirty tillion dollars in debt. People are

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Speaker 1: really struggling just to make ends meet. And as an

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Speaker 1: America First candidate, it's not that I don't have any

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Speaker 1: sympathy or empathy for Ukrainians or anybody else for that matter,

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Speaker 1: or want to see unchecked Russian aggression. It's just that

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Speaker 1: I have to ask myself, are we putting Americans first?

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Speaker 1: And I don't believe that we are. And so that's

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Speaker 1: something when I continue to see us send more money

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Speaker 1: that we really we don't even have. We have to

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Speaker 1: print this money because we already or thirty I think

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Speaker 1: thirty three trillion dollars in debt. You know, it really

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Speaker 1: bothers me because we continue to spend money that we

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Speaker 1: don't have on, you know, protecting somebody else's sovereignty and border. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: we have no sovereignty, no border down south, and that's

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Speaker 1: paying heavy dividends to communities and people all over this country.

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Speaker 1: When you see Fenton all pouring through that southern border,

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Speaker 1: when you see sex trafficking pouring through that southern border,

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Speaker 1: when you see MS thirteen gang members coming through that border,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I think that's why we need America

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Speaker 1: First candidates now more than we ever have, just because

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Speaker 1: of this country being on fire like it is, ELI working,

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Speaker 1: folks go to learn more about your campaign and help out.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Buck, I appreciate it. People can go to

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Speaker 1: ELI for Arizona dot com if they want to they

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Speaker 1: want to help us out. Like I said, we're running

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Speaker 1: against the most vulnerable democrat in the country, and so

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Speaker 1: this is definitely a very winnable race. Well, Eli, thank

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Speaker 1: you for your service, sir, and we will have you

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Speaker 1: back when you are a congressman. Crane looking forward to it.

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