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Speaker 1: What's up, guys, Welcome into a new episode of Chargers

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Speaker 1: Weekly on location finally in person, day to a training

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Speaker 1: camp special guests. General Manager Tom to LESCo. Tom, I

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Speaker 1: was just telling you we did this on like the

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Speaker 1: eve of training camp every year. Last year obviously different,

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Speaker 1: we didn't get to do this. We're in different tiers.

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Speaker 1: It feels good to be back. It's great to be back.

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Speaker 1: It feels like a real training camp again. Having all

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Speaker 1: the fans here for practice last year was just it

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Speaker 1: was just so unique and different, not in a good way,

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Speaker 1: just being out here at training camp and having no fans.

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Speaker 1: It's a long football season, so you don't want to

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Speaker 1: practice in early August to feel the same as it

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Speaker 1: feels in November. Just don't so in training camp to

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Speaker 1: have the fans out here creases the energy, the tempo

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Speaker 1: of practice. Players love to perform in front of people,

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Speaker 1: so it's great for our fans to see some of

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Speaker 1: our players in person for the first time. With Justin

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Speaker 1: Herbert being one of them, they've never seen him, you know,

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Speaker 1: alive and in person before, so just that alone, it's

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Speaker 1: great to see and it's a great set up. Our

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Speaker 1: conducive of the fans up close and shaded, and it's great.

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Speaker 1: I remember one are the many conversations we've had in

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Speaker 1: the past. You're talking about when you were a kid,

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Speaker 1: you and your dad would go to a Bill's training

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Speaker 1: camp and it was something that you never forget. You know.

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Speaker 1: We didn't have that last year, and you just said it,

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Speaker 1: like yesterday it was the first time you got to

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Speaker 1: see Justin Herbert throw football. Yeah, I mean, those are

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Speaker 1: memories you never forget, and it's a big part of

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Speaker 1: my childhood was going, you know, one day or two

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Speaker 1: days every summer going to training camp with my dad

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Speaker 1: and being right up against a fence just like these

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Speaker 1: fans are, and watching professional football players practice. Never forgot

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Speaker 1: those even you know, even the drive down to training camp.

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Speaker 1: It was great. So you know, you want everyone else

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Speaker 1: to experience that same thing, and that's why last year

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Speaker 1: this year, these are like like great childhood events for kids,

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Speaker 1: you know, So that's great if you could, I don't

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Speaker 1: it's it's just been so cool to see how these

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Speaker 1: fans have embraced Justin. Obviously they got to see everything

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Speaker 1: that he did. But you know, you fest or your

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Speaker 1: rewind rather to a year ago. You know, Justin getting

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Speaker 1: second and third team reps and a year later riding

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Speaker 1: Offensive Rookie of the Year. He's built a rapport with

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Speaker 1: so many of these guys on this football team. He

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Speaker 1: was good job today, Good job today. Yeah, like three

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Speaker 1: big catches today included a guy right, j Hill. I

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Speaker 1: just killed your train of though, because it's actually a

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Speaker 1: great segue until like he was throwing a kJ Hill

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Speaker 1: So to have a year under your belt where you've

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Speaker 1: built some of that chemistry and you can now learn

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of young players make pretty big

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Speaker 1: So you know, Justice is no different. But he did

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Speaker 1: a great job with last year. Is because we told him,

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Speaker 1: you know, we don't know when your opportunity will present itself,

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Speaker 1: We really don't, but you need to be ready for

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Speaker 1: it when it's there. Now, we didn't necessarily think it

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Speaker 1: and he was mentally prepared to play, which is hard

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Speaker 1: for young players, especially in that's that situation. He handled

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Speaker 1: that so well, you're ready. All that work that he

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Speaker 1: Guy and how they came along during the season and

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Speaker 1: kJ Hill working with Justin So now they come into

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Speaker 1: all the preparation meetings, video weight room with your teammates.

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Speaker 1: Being a leader, you know that that's all part of

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Speaker 1: being a part of the job. Also part of the

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Speaker 1: the same could be said really about the coaching staff.

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Speaker 1: cool vibe this all season. What have your experience has

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Speaker 1: So um, yeah, it's it's been fun to watch this

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Speaker 1: Did it bring you back to scouting Kenneth Murray at

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Speaker 1: No more going to class, no more you know, no

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