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Speaker 3: I helped my neighbor build his home, but now he's

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Speaker 4: Him when don't he owe you?

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Speaker 3: Hello, this is going to be quite a long story.

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Speaker 3: At the end of twenty twenty three, I found myself homeless.

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Speaker 3: I've got something called multiple sclerosis, but that's besides the point.

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Speaker 3: That's how I ended up spending a full seventeen months

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Speaker 3: homeless until March twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 4: And I'm Angie, I'm Carly, and.

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Speaker 3: We're here to give good advice. Goofuly, But we don't

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Speaker 3: have all the answers. We just know what we would

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Speaker 3: do in the situation. So let us know what you

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Speaker 3: would do in the comments. So Opie says, I now

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Speaker 3: find myself in Northern Ontario. I think I'm closer to

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Speaker 3: the North Pole than I am to the US border

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Speaker 3: living in a somewhat off grid homesteading type community. And yes,

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Speaker 3: with my medical issues, I know it's probably more difficult

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Speaker 3: for me than it is for most people. But I'm happy.

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Speaker 3: I've got my dog, a small camper I live in,

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Speaker 3: and I'm somewhat making it work. That being said, there's

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Speaker 3: a person who's the focus of this story, and I'm.

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Speaker 4: Going to call him Jason.

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Speaker 3: Jason has a wife, but she's not really relevant to

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Speaker 3: the story. Jason moved up here in May, and from

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Speaker 3: what I saw, he made a mistake. He shouldn't be

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Speaker 3: really shouldn't. He came up with absolutely nothing, not even

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Speaker 3: a plan. And he's on odsp Ontario Disability support program.

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Speaker 4: Now that's saying a lot.

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Speaker 3: That's one five hundred and five a month, and I

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Speaker 3: But he came totally unprepared. He was lucky that he

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Speaker 3: got here in the spring mid May, to say the least.

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Speaker 3: He's got no outdoor experience and no building experience. I know,

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Speaker 3: I've got my medical issues, but his make him quite frail.

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Speaker 3: In fact, his wife is also very, very frail. When

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Speaker 3: I saw him and immediately got flashbacks to my time

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Speaker 3: being homeless, living in the woods in a blue tent,

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Speaker 3: waking up at two in the morning in minus forty

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Speaker 3: I felt bad for him, and we talked. He told

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Speaker 3: The first day of construction on his place didn't not

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Speaker 3: the members who had been willing to help wash their

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Speaker 3: how bad did it go?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: He went so poorly.

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Speaker 3: It happened when we were trying to lay down stone

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Speaker 4: He started freaking.

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Speaker 4: Why everyone else dipped up.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's why we shouldn't be here. After that one day,

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Speaker 3: anyone who had been willing to help him was no

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Speaker 3: do this. Can you help? And then it would turn

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Speaker 3: more frustrating when we were actually trying to build his home.

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Speaker 3: Whenever I tried to give him suggestions because I have

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Speaker 4: Well, then do it yourself. But come on, I do

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Speaker 4: some of the work. Yeah, that's what they always say.

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Speaker 3: If you want something done right, you got to do yourself.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. And also either would.

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Speaker 3: Have done it wrong, but yeah, yeah, exactly like either

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Speaker 4: Why are we not taking that advice?

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Speaker 4: Come on.

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Speaker 3: The problem was the way he wanted it done wasn't functional.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't going to keep the weather out. But again,

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Speaker 3: Even then he still wouldn't listen. The place needed to

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Speaker 3: I suggested that they start by insulating the floor and

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Speaker 3: they could. I told him, always start with the floor

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Speaker 3: It was Jason. It was the day after our first

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Speaker 3: little cold spell. Overnight it went down to minus five

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Speaker 2: Jason?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what are we doing?

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Speaker 2: Oh? This is not the way I want it.

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Speaker 4: I want to be cold that night, like want to be.

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Speaker 3: I want to not keep my house warm out of ease.

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Speaker 3: The floor wasn't insulated, the ceiling wasn't insulated, and it

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Speaker 4: It got cold.

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Speaker 3: Jason was angry. He didn't come down to blame me,

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Speaker 3: couple of days when his check came in. But he

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Speaker 4: And where was I supposed to go? My God, that's

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Speaker 3: His suggestion was that I stay in either the small

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Speaker 3: cabin has no insulation, it's not ready to be lived in.

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Speaker 3: It's basically still exposed to the elements. And as for

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Speaker 3: I don't have one hundred and fifty dollars to spend

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Speaker 3: trying to save up for proper winter gear, a decent

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Speaker 3: In fact, he blew up. I remember almost his exact words.

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Speaker 3: That's not effing fair. This is my effing life. What

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Speaker 3: hof dude, This is the lack of brains in this man.

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Speaker 2: You know what you can go?

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Speaker 4: You can go build your house, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Go build your house, or right, idea stay in a

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Speaker 6: Would open, you stay in the motel, Like, yeah, this

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Speaker 6: is your life, My life too.

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Speaker 3: This whole thing is we're not in some sort of

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Speaker 3: forget that. You know, I've got to live too, this

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Speaker 3: is my home. There are more people on this planet

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Speaker 3: than just him. Yeah, I've been more than fair with him.

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Speaker 3: I've neglected my own winter preparations just to make sure

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Speaker 3: that he was okay. I've calculated that I've given him

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Speaker 3: times when I shouldn't have been helping him, at all

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Speaker 3: times when I'm just in so much pain, when my

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Speaker 3: do was cry because again, I have multiple sclerosis. I'm medicated,

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Speaker 3: but I still get bad days. Unfortunately, I know I'm

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Speaker 3: easily guilted. After that blow up, I told him I

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Speaker 3: got my own things I need to do. We're very

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Speaker 3: a lot I've got to get done with not much

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Wow, Wow, glad we said no, thank Finally.

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Speaker 6: That's insane to get mad and to demand someone else

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Speaker 6: insulation wrong exactly.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy. What crazy? Yeah, I'm so glad that ope,

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Speaker 3: he's standing.

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Speaker 4: Up for Yeah, good on you for saying no, good

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Speaker 4: on you.

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Speaker 3: Even after that, he still tried to guilt me into

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Speaker 3: that he'd have to leave. Then he asked, do you

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Speaker 3: This is my dream, A dream, mind you, that he's

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Speaker 3: been building, using my labor for free. I haven't gone

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Speaker 6: Twenty three Mail and my best friend twenty three Mail

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Speaker 6: By the way, this comes from Joseph Luigi, And if

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Speaker 4: So I brought it. I'm Carly, I'm Angie, and we're

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Speaker 4: This particular story.

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Speaker 6: Since April, many friends have come up to me to

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Speaker 6: Everyone has been telling me that it's not something a

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Speaker 6: I more so just feel even get away from it

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Speaker 4: Totally, totally you don't want to be in We've a

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Speaker 6: In conversation, he has mentioned her very lightly, as if

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Speaker 6: I have been thinking that I might be impeding those

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Speaker 4: A glass of water?

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Speaker 6: Would I be the a hole if I distance myself?

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Speaker 6: That is the end of that story. And I do

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Speaker 4: I don't think so at all. I think you should.

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Speaker 3: Feel like if you tried to be involved more than

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Speaker 4: I feel like they do not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they cannot happen at the same time.

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Speaker 6: If your friend and Sam are gonna give it a go, yeah,

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Speaker 6: step away and let them give it a go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Sure, sure, And that's the end of this story.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna go to the next one.

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Speaker 3: I was left out of a wedding party, so I

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Speaker 4: Did you want to be the bride?

444
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 3: I've had a group of four friends since elementary school.

445
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,320
Speaker 3: The five of us have stayed close friends through elementary,

446
00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 3: middle school, and high school, going to the same schools,

447
00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,840
Speaker 3: and then through university separate universities, but we would visit

448
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,359
Speaker 3: often and stay very close. We are all twenty six

449
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,320
Speaker 3: year old guys and have been friends for nineteen years now.

450
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from Ami the whole busy

451
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Speaker 3: computer And if you want to submit your own stories,

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Speaker 3: go to the r slash Okay story Time, Separate it

453
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Speaker 3: and I'm Angie.

454
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Speaker 4: I'm Carly, and we're here.

455
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Speaker 3: To give good advice. Goofilly, But we don't have all

456
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 3: the answers. We're just guessing what we would do in

457
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:30,919
Speaker 3: the situation. But let us know what you would do

458
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,639
Speaker 3: in the comments. So op sets. One of the guys

459
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 3: in the group, Brandon, is getting married in January. Brandon

460
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,200
Speaker 3: asked the other three guys to be groomsman in his wedding,

461
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 3: alongside it's two brothers and two of his friends from college.

462
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 3: This left me the only homie in the group.

463
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 4: Who wasn't a groomsman.

464
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,359
Speaker 3: I was upset when I first realized, but I talked

465
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,159
Speaker 3: to my parents about it and they reminded me that

466
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 3: it's Brandon's wedding, not a group event. He could have

467
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,960
Speaker 3: who he likes up there, and just because I'm not

468
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 3: a groomsman doesn't mean that Brandon doesn't consider me a friend.

469
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 3: And he already has seven people up there besides him,

470
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 3: which is a lot. My parents are the only ones

471
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 3: I ever told that I was upset about it, and

472
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,360
Speaker 3: now I think I'm pretty well over it. They've had

473
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 3: a few grooms party gatherings, like they went for drinks

474
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 3: after they got fitted for suits and went golfing together,

475
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 3: and Brandon and his fiance had a barbecue for their

476
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,399
Speaker 3: wedding party. That's always a weird reminder for me. My

477
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 3: friends and I usually go on a trip in the

478
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 3: summer to watch a football game. We started the tradition

479
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,640
Speaker 3: in our first year in university and have been going

480
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 3: every year since. It's always just been the five of

481
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,199
Speaker 3: us friends and we go for like three or four days.

482
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 3: On Tuesday, my three friends came to me and wanted

483
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,639
Speaker 3: to know my opinion on inviting the other groomsmen on

484
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 3: the trip as a surprise to Brandon. The three of

485
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 3: them were all clearly for this idea and really wanted

486
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 3: me to say yes. I told them that I wasn't sure.

487
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 3: I had to think about it, which was awkward because

488
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,160
Speaker 3: it was obvious that they thought I was just going

489
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 3: to say yes. I spoke to them about it today

490
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 3: and said that Honestly, I don't want to go on

491
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 3: a trip being the only non groomsman. I know Brandon's

492
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 3: brothers and I've met his college friends and they're all cool,

493
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 3: but I don't want to be the clear odd man out.

494
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 3: I told my friends that they should do it. I

495
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 3: just won't go this year, which was fine for me

496
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 3: because I could do with saving some money because I

497
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 3: have a separate destination.

498
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 4: Wedding to go to in February.

499
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 3: Now, the other guys won't invite the other groomsmen if

500
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 3: it means that I won't come, but it's clear that

501
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 3: they're also annoyed at them not being able to invite

502
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 3: them because of me. One of my friends spoke to

503
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 3: me separately and he told me that he really thinks

504
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 3: I'm not fair or a good friend, and asked if

505
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 3: it's because I resent not being a groupsman. It feels

506
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,719
Speaker 3: like any decision I make, besides agreeing to go on

507
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,679
Speaker 3: the trip with the four other groomsmen, is going to

508
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 3: make them mad at me. Am I they hope for

509
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 3: backing out of the trip if I am going to

510
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 3: be the only non groomsman.

511
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,880
Speaker 4: And we do have some comments, but what.

512
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 2: Are your thoughts?

513
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 4: Oh?

514
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 6: I'm interested too. I did see the verdict. I won't

515
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 6: reveel yet, but I'm very torn on that one because

516
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 6: a good part of me is kind of like you

517
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 6: do seem resentful and just a little booty hurt.

518
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I.

519
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 6: Think so I'm like, yeah, for sure, I can totally

520
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 6: understand being like, wow, all of that really hurt.

521
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

522
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 6: I feel like we also could have maybe just had

523
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 6: a conversation like hey, I'm I'm really hurt about this

524
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 6: exactly all this other stuff. But it's like, now they

525
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 6: are including you in something because it's your guys' yearly tradition. Yeah,

526
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 6: Like I wouldn't miss out on a yearly tradition just

527
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 6: because you were but hurt about the wedding stuff.

528
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 4: Still, yeah, it's like.

529
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 3: You might feel left out about not being the only groomsman,

530
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 3: but at the same time, it's like, okay, well at least.

531
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 6: Die are included, Like right, Yeah, I'm kind of like, okay,

532
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 6: maybe they've come around, Like I think you should still

533
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 6: tell them how much that hurt you.

534
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 4: Kind of thing. Yeah, maybe there was a good reason

535
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 4: for it.

536
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 6: Maybe it was to keep the thing even maybe he

537
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 6: really wanted you as one.

538
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was just unfortunately you didn't make it.

539
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 6: I think it stinks that they didn't invite you to

540
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 6: some of this stuff still, like, yeah, include a non

541
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 6: wedding party member.

542
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 2: Totally.

543
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 4: My sisters did that. Yeah, maybe it would have been

544
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 4: more awkward. Maybe it was a money thing.

545
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like, I just think that overall, there needs to

546
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 6: be a conversation and yeah, just get it out in

547
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 6: the air.

548
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 4: But don't miss your tradition exactly.

549
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 3: It feels like opinions have been made but not talked about,

550
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 3: right like on all fronts. Yeah, and we do have

551
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 3: some relevant comments and the verdict from all of these

552
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 3: will present not the.

553
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 4: A hole but dear word.

554
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 3: Eighty twenty one says, everyone sucks here. It's rubbish that

555
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 3: you're the only one left out of the wedding party,

556
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 3: but that's not going to change. Go on the trip

557
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 3: with them, make some new friends with the other groom's

558
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 3: win to celebrate your friend is getting married, and enjoy

559
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 3: the wedding without any responsibilities. Have you talked to the

560
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 3: stag about how you feel about being left out and

561
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 3: is there any rationale? For example, did you move away

562
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 3: or spend less time with them than the others Ope

563
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 3: says I didn't talk to Brandon or my other friends

564
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 3: about how I felt. I don't want to start any

565
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 3: problems or drama in the group, so doing that. Yeah,

566
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 3: so I would not talk to my other friends about it.

567
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, it's Brandon's decision to make.

568
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 3: I also never talked to Brandon. Figured it would be

569
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 3: lame to ask why he didn't include me, And at

570
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 3: the end of the day, he made his decision and

571
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 3: I respect it. Also, there's a chance that I wouldn't

572
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 3: want to hear his answer. I don't think anything would

573
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 3: be gained by finding out that he thinks of me

574
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 3: as a lesser friend, for example. So I don't know

575
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 3: the rationale and I and honestly, at this point I

576
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 3: try not to think about what reasons it could be

577
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 3: because I think it would be at the risk of

578
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 3: inventing a problem in my head between us if I

579
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 3: did that. I've known since June, so at this point

580
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 3: I wouldn't bring it up either way too late to ask,

581
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 3: in my opinion, Yeah, real quick.

582
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 6: I agree that everyone kind of sucks in this story. Yeah,

583
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 6: I was definitely leaning more to that than not the

584
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 6: a hole. Yeah, because you could have had that conversation, Like, yeah,

585
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 6: at the point where you're not having the conversation, you're

586
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 6: just stewing on it and you're gonna miss out on

587
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 6: those other things.

588
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 4: You are putting yourself in that position.

589
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, it's like you're you still can have that conversation,

590
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 3: like you're literally contradicting yourself.

591
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 6: Right.

592
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 3: It's so weird to see because you're like, yeah, I

593
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 3: don't know what the rationale is. I don't know why

594
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 3: I'm doing this, but like it might have something to

595
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 3: do with the fact that I'm really sad, and I

596
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 3: also don't want to ask a question because I don't

597
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 3: know I think the answer will make me more sad.

598
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 6: He's like, I'm going to continue to overthink about what

599
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 6: the answer could be. Yeah, but I'm not going to ask,

600
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 6: so I'm just going to stay in my head about

601
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 6: what the answer could be.

602
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly.

603
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 3: It's like you're being so avoidant because clearly, I mean,

604
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 3: conversation does not feel easy to you, which is okay,

605
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 3: like that I understand that, but you're it's not going

606
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 3: to get any better, and yeah, you just kind of

607
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 3: refusing to go to the trip. If if it's going

608
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 3: to be a groomsman thing, and then also not talking

609
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 3: about it, like your emotions are coming off either way.

610
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 4: People know how you feel it, they're seeing it. Still,

611
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:49,719
Speaker 4: just talk about it.

612
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 3: It doesn't need to be like, yo, why didn't you

613
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 3: make me a groomsman? Just be like hey, like just

614
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 3: wanted to like I know, we just never talked about it.

615
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 3: I just want to get it out in the.

616
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 4: Clear, like it's been in my head a little bit,

617
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 4: like you talk about it was the reason, like, let

618
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 4: me know, make sure to do anything kind.

619
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 3: Of Yeah exactly exactly, Like that's and.

620
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 4: It'd be so simple.

621
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly right on, Moa says not the a hole

622
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 3: say the others should definitely attend. Say you'll still go,

623
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 3: then have a last minute issue crop up that means

624
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 3: you have to cancel nearer the time. Oh well, don't

625
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 3: do that. I understand your feelings are hurt, and unfortunately,

626
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 3: it's hard to imagine your friendship with these guys and

627
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 3: the groom remaining the same. Now it seems really strange

628
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 3: to have such a big wedding party but leave you

629
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: out of it. I don't blame you if you do

630
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 3: feel resentful and hop he says, dang, I would hate.

631
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 4: To lose my friends over this. And we do have

632
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 4: an update. If you don't talk to them, talk to

633
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 4: their ghana.

634
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: Six weeks later, I am going to go on the trip, yeah,

635
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 3: thank goodness, Oh my god. And I told them that

636
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 3: they could invite the other guys. We leave tomorrow. Three

637
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 3: of the four other groomsmen are coming. One of Brandon's

638
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 3: brothers can't make it. Truthfully, I don't really know if

639
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 3: it's a happy update or not. They they weren't going

640
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 3: to invite the other guys after I said no, so

641
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 3: it would have just been us, but I told them

642
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 3: that they could. I guess I just didn't feel like

643
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 3: being on the trip and holding and them holding a

644
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 3: grudge and things being awkward because I said no, Thank goodness.

645
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do fear it still hasn't been talked about. Yeah,

646
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 4: I really don't think it has.

647
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 6: So my advice would still be to do that. But

648
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 6: I'm glad you're going on the trip, yeah, and that

649
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 6: things seemed to maybe maybe the trip will just go

650
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 6: so well that you'll like get over.

651
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 3: It kind of thing, Yeah, exactly.

652
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 6: But if you feel even a twinge of that still,

653
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 6: you have to talk about.

654
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 3: It, Yeah, because you said, you got over it, but

655
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 3: I don't think you have. I don't think you happen

656
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 3: You've just pushed it away.

657
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 4: We're lying to ourselves.

658
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there is a little bit more to the story.

659
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 3: I was clearly going to go on the trip before

660
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 3: they decided to invite the others, so I couldn't really

661
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 3: honestly say that I wasn't going to save money, and

662
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 3: maybe I said yes just to.

663
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Speaker 4: Avoid anyone being mad at me. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm actually going to room with Brandon's brother that is coming.

665
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 3: He is cool, so I don't really mind that. Hopefully

666
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 3: the trip goes well, and there are some comments, I'm

667
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 3: just gonna jump right in. Comment number one says, I

668
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 3: really wonder what happened after the wedding. It feels like

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00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 3: OPI is on his way out as a group friend,

670
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 3: and as they all start settling down, it'll be harder

671
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 3: to maintain these dynamics anyway. Someone else responds, this is

672
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 3: my thought. This very much feels like the other four

673
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 3: are much closer than Opie ever realized, and he's the afterthought.

674
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 3: Dang the fact that not one of them even felt

675
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: the need to address the elephant in the room.

676
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 4: Is quite telling.

677
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 3: Opie could have easily joined in several of the group

678
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 3: activities while not being a groomsman. They clearly wanted him excluded.

679
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 3: I imagine he would have been excluded from the trip if

680
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 3: they could have managed it while still saving face. Dang's

681
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 3: a lot of assumptions here, But that's the end.

682
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Speaker 4: Of that story.

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Speaker 2: My housemates lept on my bed without permission and thinks

686
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Speaker 2: nothing is wrong with it.

687
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Speaker 5: Why don't they have their own bed?

688
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: Back in July, I began renting a room that would

689
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: be closer to my new workplace. Three bed, three bath

690
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: house and two tenants would be leaving. One of the tenants,

691
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 2: let's call her Regina, would continue living downstairs until the

692
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: end of the year. I had the chance to speak

693
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: with Regina on the phone to talk about house rules

694
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: and the breakdown of bills and utilities. By the way,

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Speaker 2: story Time severed it. I'm Dakota, I'm Sophia, I'm Carly,

698
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Speaker 2: and we had to give you a little good advice, goofy.

699
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 2: But we don't know all the answers. We only know

700
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Speaker 2: what we do. So if you know what you would do,

701
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: just tell us, Opie says. One of the most important

702
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: rules she told me was that we weren't allowed to have.

703
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,719
Speaker 4: Boys stay overnight.

704
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 2: She explained she is married and because of her beliefs

705
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: and culture, she's not comfortable with having other men stay

706
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 2: overnight in the house. I told her I respected her

707
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: beliefs and asked if it was okay if I had

708
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: my boyfriend, friends, or even my family come over just

709
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: to visit or to help me move my things into

710
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: the house. She told me it was okay with her

711
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 2: to have my boyfriend and male friends come over as

712
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: long as I told her beforehand that they would be visiting.

713
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: I then explained that even though I would not physically

714
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: be there or move in until August, I'm still paying

715
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: for rents starting July because I don't want to lose

716
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: my spot in the house. Fast forward to the beginning

717
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: of August. I decided to take a bed I bought

718
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 2: at Aikea to the house and have my boyfriend help

719
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 2: me build it. I made sure to let Regina know

720
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: earlier that day and updated her when I was close

721
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: to the house. Meeting her in person for the first

722
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: time went smoothly, and she even gave us snacks and

723
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: drinks as refreshments while we were building my bed. Before leaving,

724
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: I wanted to lock my room door, but notice that

725
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: the previous tenant forgot to leave me the keys to

726
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: my room. I decided to just ask my landlady for

727
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: a spare key next time I saw her and left

728
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: the house. Two days later, I had an hr slash

729
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: new hire appointment at my work, so I thought it

730
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 2: would be good to drop off some stuff at the

731
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: house since I would be in the area again. I

732
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 2: asked my boyfriend to come with me. We decided to

733
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 2: stop by the house first before heading to my workplace.

734
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: This time, I texted Regina five minutes before arriving to

735
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 2: the house, which I understand I should have done much earlier.

736
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 2: We opened the front door and the first thing we

737
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: saw was an air mattress blocking the door. After pushing it,

738
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: we saw an absolute mess in the living room in

739
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: common area. It literally looked like a tornado had flown

740
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 2: through the room. Food, clothes, and trash were all over

741
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 2: the floor, table, and couches. Then when we walked up

742
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: the stairs to go to my bedroom, we found my

743
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 2: door completely wide open, with someone sleeping on my bed

744
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 2: back facing me, and a bunch of stuff scattered or

745
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: hanging in the room. Is there a cryptid sleeping in

746
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: your bed?

747
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 5: I think that your roommate turns into a werewolf, and

748
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 5: that it was.

749
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: Just the full moon, a werewolf in the shape of

750
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: a gross person. I didn't feel comfortable walking in there,

751
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: even though it was my own room. I felt so

752
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,479
Speaker 2: shocked and disgusted that I ran downstairs to see if

753
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 2: Regina was in her room. I walked towards her room

754
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: and found her bedroom door wide open. I saw someone

755
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,479
Speaker 2: else on her bed, which I assumed to be her

756
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: mother or grandma. I tried asking where Regina was, and

757
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 2: she said in broken English, sorry, I don't speak English.

758
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: So I took up my phone and called Regina. Not

759
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: a second later, I heard a phone ringing from upstairs.

760
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: I quickly tried to walk upstairs, but Regina popped her

761
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: head out before I could completely go up the stairs

762
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,479
Speaker 2: to my room. I then noticed that the shirt Regina

763
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: was wearing was the same shirt the stranger sleeping on

764
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 2: my bed was wearing. Turns out she was the one

765
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: in my room and sleeping on my bed. She told

766
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: me to wait downstairs because she was not wearing anything

767
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 2: else besides her shirt, and since my boyfriend was there,

768
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: she was not comfortable walking downstairs to talk to us.

769
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: I patiently waited and then heard a door close upstairs.

770
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: Regina then called me on the phone and said I

771
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 2: could go upstairs. All the stuff that had been in

772
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: my room was gone and moved into the room next door. Unfortunately,

773
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: I didn't have time to confront her right away since

774
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 2: I was going to be late for my appointment at work.

775
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: After my hr appointment, I called my landlady and told

776
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: her everything that happened. He told me that what Regina

777
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: did was unacceptable and disrespectful since she violated my privacy.

778
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 2: I asked if it was okay to change my door

779
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: lock entirely and give her the spare key afterward. She

780
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: said yes, so my boyfriend and I drove to home

781
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: depot to buy a new lock and screwdriver to assemble it.

782
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 2: We also bought some disaffected spray and wipes to inact

783
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: my room in bed. When we got to the house,

784
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 2: Regina and the family member were nowhere to be found.

785
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 5: To disinfect your room in bed?

786
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 2: This is just like really dirty, really weird.

787
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 5: Really weird that we have no idea why all of

788
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 5: that happened or why the house was like a mess.

789
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 5: But also I'm a little bit I'm a little bit

790
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 5: confused as to why you would have to disinfect your bed, Like,

791
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 5: how messy was it in your room? Because wouldn't you

792
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 5: just wash your sheets?

793
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: I don't think that's I think she's in a different

794
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: room now. All her stuff was moved into the next room.

795
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 2: I know.

796
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 5: But op's saying that she wants to disinfect her room

797
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:33,959
Speaker 5: in bed.

798
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if maybe she's just buying

799
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: less of maybe she's just, you know, a bit capturing materials.

800
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 5: I'm just confused as to why we know, just wash

801
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 5: the sheets, That's.

802
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 4: All I'm saying.

803
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 2: The landlady's husband then came over to pick up the

804
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: spare key to the new lock we installed. Before leaving,

805
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: I made sure to lock my room door. An hour later,

806
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: when I got back home, I called Regina to talk

807
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: about the incident. Before I could say anything, she said,

808
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 2: hear me out let me explain myself first, I later talk.

809
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 2: She said she was scared she would be alone in

810
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: the house, so she called her mom to stay with

811
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 2: her to keep her company and to help clean the

812
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 2: house since the previous tenants apparently left it messy and dirty.

813
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: She explained that her grandma also came but suddenly got

814
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 2: pneumonia and had to be taken to the hospital late

815
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 2: at night. She said she got back to the house

816
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 2: around two am. Since her grandma was recovering, Regina told

817
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: her grandma to sleep on her bed while she went

818
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: to my room to sleep on my bed. She then said,

819
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: after hearing my reasons and knowing that it was an emergency,

820
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 2: I appreciate it if you would be flexible in understanding

821
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: of my situation. I expressed that I felt sorry about

822
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 2: her grandma's situation and hope she recovers well, but shared

823
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: how disrespected and shocked I felt that she didn't even

824
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: consider asking me for permission to go into my room

825
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: and sleep on my bed, especially when we are still

826
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 2: living in a pandemic. That's why she butted in before

827
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 2: I could say anything else and said, well, all you

828
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: had in there was your bed, and you weren't going

829
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: to move in until later anyways. I explained that I

830
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 2: had been paying rent since July and technically could move

831
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: in whenever I wanted. I also told her she could

832
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: have slept in the living room, as I saw an

833
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: air mattress in the house that she could have used.

834
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 2: Regina continued making excuses, and I told her this could

835
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 2: never happen again. This is a really bad way to start.

836
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 2: This is a terrible, terrible start. Did I just wanted

837
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: to hear Regina say sorry because of how violated and

838
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 2: disrespected I felt. She then said, what do you want

839
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 2: to do? Pay for a new mattress or bad? I

840
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 2: can give you money if that's what you want. I

841
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 2: completely lost it. I told her I didn't want her money,

842
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 2: just a genuine apology. She then complained that I disrespected

843
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: her by bringing my boyfriend over without letting her know beforehand.

844
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 2: Texting five minutes before is too late of a notice,

845
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: she said. I apologized and said it was wrong that

846
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 2: I didn't inform her earlier. If this wasn't in the

847
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 2: midst of the pandemic, I'd be like, we're just fighting

848
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 2: immediately a new place to live.

849
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it was so hard to find places to live.

850
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 2: So yeah, barring that situation, yeah, I.

851
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 5: Would just say move out, but not in this situation.

852
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 2: I think I'm anyone know how long it takes to

853
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 2: get to Mars. I'm moving to the moon man. I'm

854
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 2: a moon man now. Man, I'm going full blown moon man.

855
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 4: Moon be nice feam.

856
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 2: Ain't no jermy googays on the moon man. Regina then said, Okay, so,

857
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: since you made a mistake and I made a mistake,

858
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 2: let's call it even. I said I hadn't even heard

859
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 2: an apology from her yet, and she responded, maybe's such

860
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: a big deal out of it and being so rude

861
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: to me right now, You're so difficult to speak with.

862
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 2: I don't want to argue with you anymore. I'm older

863
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: than you. You shouldn't even be speaking to me this way.

864
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 2: At that moment, I said okay, bye, thank you and

865
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: hung up. Right after the call ended, I literally cried

866
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 2: because of how emotionally draining the call was and the

867
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 2: whole situation in general. Am I being inconsiderate for making

868
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: a big deal out of her being in my room

869
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 2: and sleeping on my bed?

870
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 5: No, No, it's weird.

871
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: No, And there's a bunch of stuff hung up in there.

872
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: Come number one? Does your landlord know that Regina's trying

873
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 2: to make unilateral decisions for a house she doesn't own.

874
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: Oh so she has a husband, but what if you're

875
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: not comfortable with him around the hypocrisy? Oh, my landlady

876
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 2: definitely knows, and she even told me before that Regina

877
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: is a difficult person to talk to. Yet my landlady

878
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: said the house rule is something the tenants should agree

879
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 2: on since she's not the one living. Reply says, well,

880
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 2: then tell Regina you weren't comfortable with old people and

881
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 2: that her grandmother will no longer be able to visit.

882
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: It's a fair compromise to your pardner not being able

883
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 2: to spend the night. Seriously, though, break your lease. I

884
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: wouldn't again during that time unless you had another one

885
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 2: lined up. Comment to I'm confused why she gets to

886
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: tell you who you are allowed to have visit unless

887
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 2: she owns the house. She's a renter, just like you. Together,

888
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 2: you can make rules you both want to agree to

889
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: and follow, but one renter should not make all the rules,

890
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 2: Opie says. Honestly, I don't know why either. I thought

891
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: my landlady would be the one to explain house rules,

892
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 2: but she suggested that I called Regina to explain it

893
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: for me, since it's something that involves both of us

894
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: and not her. Like wit comment three, Regina doesn't even

895
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 2: own the house. Though you're paying for rent to someone else.

896
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: It's your home too, and you can have whoever you

897
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 2: want over whenever you're not the a whole Opie says,

898
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: thank you, But somehow I still feel bad about the

899
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 2: whole thing, and that's the end of that story.

900
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 5: Don't feel bad.

901
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 2: Your roommates look great, gret Yeah, and honestly, with barring

902
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: barring any sort of like religious reasons or like whatever,

903
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 2: like I'd be like, I don't care what you have

904
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 2: to say. I don't care if you don't want my

905
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 2: boyfriend here, I pay right just like you. Yeah, my

906
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 2: boyfriend can be here whenever I want.

907
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 5: After this, again, burring religious reasons, after this, I'd be like,

908
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 5: you brought your grandma in drash my room and spend

909
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 5: the night in my room.

910
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, I literally don't care. I do not care

911
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: what you have to say. As soon as this situation,

912
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: as soon as I find another place to live, I'm moving.

913
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: I'm not settling down here. I am not living with Regina.

914
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: I am moving out as soon as humanly possible. And

915
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 2: if your roommate gives you the ick and is a

916
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 2: hard person to live with, you should think the same thing.

917
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 2: But that is the end of that story.

918
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 5: My roommate acted rudely after I let my mother move

919
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 5: in with us.

920
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 2: Well, maybe your mom sucks. You haven't thought about that.

921
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 5: My twenty four female roommate twenty seven female refuses to

922
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 5: let my mother sixty one female, move into a vacant

923
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 5: room in my apartment because i just can't live with

924
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 5: someone's mother. I'm too grown for that. By the way,

925
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 5: this comes from incandescent lights. And if you want to

926
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 5: submit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay

927
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 5: storytime subreddit.

928
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 2: I'm Sophia, I'm Dakota.

929
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 5: I'm Carly, and we're here to give good advice goofy.

930
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 5: But we don't have all the answers. We only know

931
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 5: what we'd do, So let us know what you would

932
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 5: do in the comments. For a context, I have lived

933
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 5: in my apartment for six years. My roommate, who will

934
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 5: call Anna, is a subletter not on the lease she pays.

935
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 5: Our other roommate twenty six mail rent and he sends

936
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 5: it to our landlord. Anna is very much what I

937
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 5: would like to call a clean freak. She sends entire

938
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 5: paragraphs about what I view as small things, saying stuff

939
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 5: like I feel like I do everything around here, Hey,

940
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 5: stove wasn't clean properly, et cetera. I get the feeling

941
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 5: that these messages are all directed at me, as she

942
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 5: usually comes to me with these complaints. To the best

943
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 5: of my knowledge, she doesn't treat my other roommate this way.

944
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 5: The two of them have been friends for many years.

945
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 5: I have multiple jobs and cannot keep up with her demands.

946
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 5: All of her messages read is passive aggressive, and it's

947
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 5: gotten to the point where nobody responds to her. I

948
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 5: am expected to do everything to her standard, but nothing

949
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 5: I do is good enough. Just believe me when I

950
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 5: tell you that she has a lot of unreasonable demands,

951
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 5: such as no using the vacuum until she wakes up

952
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 5: she doesn't get up until three to four pm, and

953
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 5: no using any dish toils to dry the counters. She

954
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 5: doesn't respect my schedule and needs, but I have to

955
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 5: respect hers. A couple of months ago, another roommate, Joyce,

956
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 5: fake name, and a good friend of mine moved out

957
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 5: shortly after Anna moved in, saying to everyone that she

958
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 5: just needed more space. Privately, she told me part of

959
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 5: her reason for leaving was Anna and her controlling behavior.

960
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 5: When Joyce moved out, we of course needed another roommate.

961
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 5: My mom's lease was about to end and she wanted

962
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 5: to get out of the small town she's lived in

963
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 5: for over thirty years and moved to the city I'm in,

964
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 5: not only to be closer to me, she's thirteen hundred

965
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 5: miles away, but also for better work opportunities. I offered

966
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 5: the room to her. She accepted and started making plans

967
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 5: for her big move. I told my roommates and they

968
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 5: seemed fine with it. It was only going to be

969
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 5: temporary for a few months while she got her footing,

970
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 5: new job, et cetera, and then she planned on finding

971
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 5: her own apartment. Well, it's now three weeks out from

972
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 5: my mom's move, and Anna is not okay with my

973
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 5: mom living here. She said, respectfully, in a pretty disrespectful tone,

974
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 5: that she refuses to live with someone's mom. She's too

975
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 5: old for that, too grown in that it would completely

976
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 5: change the way she acts and lives her life as

977
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 5: in her culture, she has to act a certain way

978
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 5: around people she considers elder. She wouldn't be able to

979
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 5: have anyone over, no friends, no guys or girls. She's

980
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 5: maybe dating nobody.

981
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 2: I meanbody, that's not true. You're making rules for yourself

982
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: now and then saying there are rules now, those are yours.

983
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 5: She would have to censor herself and it would completely

984
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 5: uproot her life. I assured her that it would be fine.

985
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 2: She's not my mom.

986
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 5: My mom's cool, I'm super chill. She'd barely be here anyway,

987
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 5: because she'd be at work or exploring the city. My

988
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 5: mom wouldn't care if she has people over, she said, Yeah, no,

989
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 5: that wouldn't work. I can't have someone's mom in my house,

990
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 5: my house, her house. That struck a nerve with me.

991
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 5: I have been here for six years. She's been here

992
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 5: less than five months and is not on the lease.

993
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 5: She feels like a guest to me.

994
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, then you don't have to listen to literally

995
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 2: a word, she says.

996
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 5: Also, you brought it up to all of your roommates.

997
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 5: Everyone said they were okay with it, and now right

998
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 5: before your mom's come in, she's like, well, I actually

999
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 5: have changed my mind after all the nagging, reprimanding, and

1000
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 5: constant critiques of how I do things. I felt insulted,

1001
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 5: but I didn't say anything. She has an entitled attitude,

1002
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 5: came into someone else's home and told them how they

1003
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 5: have to live their life to suit her needs, and

1004
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 5: now she refuses to let my mom live here for

1005
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 5: just a couple of months. My mom is all her

1006
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 5: travel plans, booked a moving man. She's already packed her

1007
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 5: stuff into boxes and told her apartment that she's not

1008
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 5: renewing the lease. There's no going back. We thought there

1009
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 5: wasn't an issue that they're moving in for a bit,

1010
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 5: So now I don't know what to do. She can't

1011
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 5: find an apartment on her own, and she doesn't make

1012
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 5: enough money yet to qualify for one. I'm her only option, really,

1013
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 5: and I do owe her. She's helped me up lot

1014
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 5: lately and been an amazing mother. She's the only real

1015
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 5: family I have, and I want to give her this

1016
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 5: opportunity to have a better life after all the things

1017
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 5: she's been through and all she's done for me. My

1018
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 5: mom wants to go ahead and just move in anyway,

1019
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 5: but I know Anna would make my life. Heck if

1020
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 5: that happened. She's a pretty volatile person, and I'm in

1021
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 5: no place to live in the same apartment as someone

1022
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 5: who hates me. I've done my best to stay on

1023
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,439
Speaker 5: her good side thus far, but I think this would

1024
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 5: end in complete disaster. I myself would move out to

1025
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 5: get away from all this, but I don't have the

1026
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 5: money to do so. And again, this place has been

1027
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 5: my home for six years. Right after I made that post,

1028
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 5: Anna actually went on another one of her text message

1029
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 5: tie raids about how we don't do things in the

1030
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 5: apartment to our very specific standards. Trying once again to

1031
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 5: control us. She berated us, called us disrespectful, insulted our character,

1032
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 5: and put herself on a pedestal as the gold standard

1033
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 5: for how a household should be run. It went on

1034
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 5: for hours, paragraph after paragraph, And you want to know

1035
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 5: why it's started. I dried off a small water spill

1036
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 5: on the kitchen counter with a kitchen towel, which, apparently,

1037
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 5: according to her, I'm not allowed to do. I stood

1038
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 5: up for myself, basically told her to shove it, and

1039
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 5: she decided that was the time to bring up every

1040
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 5: gripe and groan and whiney complaint she had all while

1041
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 5: insulting Dan and me. Dan then join in and started

1042
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 5: backing me up, which was a shock seeing as he

1043
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 5: usually doesn't stand up for himself either. I sent Dan

1044
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 5: along private text message basically stating that Anna needs to

1045
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 5: be evicted. Her time is up and we can't keep

1046
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 5: living like this, and he agreed, but seemed to be

1047
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 5: dragging his feet until a few days later. Anna was

1048
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 5: having one of her loud phone conversations in the living

1049
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 5: room as she does, which we are not allowed to do,

1050
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 5: and Dan overheard her calling him discriminatory, saying that his

1051
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 5: family probably owned slaves at one point, among other untrue things.

1052
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 5: That was his final straw. He confronted her. She accused

1053
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 5: him of evesdropping on your loud public living room conversation.

1054
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 5: She's like, you eaves dropped on the conversation that I

1055
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 5: was having right next to you.

1056
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 2: I'd be like if we were talking on the live

1057
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: and we said something and then we were like, ew, gross,

1058
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: you heard that you're leaves dropping on us right now?

1059
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 2: Why didn't you.

1060
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 5: Listen to the public live stream? We took that out

1061
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 5: of context, to which he replied, you're yelling in the

1062
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 5: living room sound carries I know what I heart. I've

1063
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 5: also heard her talking badly about us, but nothing to

1064
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 5: that degree. On the fourteenth of last month, we sent

1065
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 5: her the thirty day notice to vacate while we were

1066
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 5: both out of the house, as we didn't want to

1067
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 5: be home when she exploded with rage, as she tends

1068
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 5: to do. We also informed her that my mom would

1069
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 5: be moving in. She had no say in the matter,

1070
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 5: seeing as she isn't on the lease and would not

1071
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 5: be here much longer anyway. The day she got the

1072
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 5: thirty day notice, she basically refused to leave and still is,

1073
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 5: so we will likely have to take her to court.

1074
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 5: We have talked to our landlord and explain the whole situation,

1075
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 5: and he is willing to help us get her out.

1076
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 5: She's making no moves to leave, and at this point

1077
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 5: only as nine.

1078
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 4: Days left of her thirty day notice.

1079
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 5: If I could, I would just throw her belongings on

1080
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 5: the street, just like she did to some of my

1081
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 5: stuff I left in the living room one time. But

1082
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 5: that's illegal.

1083
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 2: I know it's to protect people from exploitive situations, but

1084
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: I hate that it allows people like this to just

1085
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 2: exploit exist.

1086
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 5: She keeps making excuses saying it's impossible she has nowhere

1087
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 5: to go. Well, you had a month to figure that out.

1088
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 5: She's going to be homeless, blah blah. Joyce, my old

1089
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 5: roommate and friend who moved out because of Anna, let

1090
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Speaker 5: me add on some interesting information. Anna has never paid

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Speaker 5: her own bills the whole time she's lived here. Dan

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Speaker 5: has been paying them for her. I knew he was

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Speaker 5: covering her for electric and WiFi, but I didn't know

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Speaker 5: it was rent too. I assume she worked from home

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Speaker 5: or something, but nope, she has just been living her

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Speaker 5: unemployed life Bill's paid for. I freaking knew it. Bill's

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Speaker 5: paid for. Only interested in trying to micromanage two grown

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Speaker 5: adults with full time jobs instead of getting one herself,

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Speaker 5: as I suspected. I also learned she's always treated Dan

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Speaker 5: this way. She's always been crappy to him, just as

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Speaker 5: she is to her other friend, the one whose laptop

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Speaker 5: she's smashed. She's been using him for a year years,

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00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 5: it seems, until recently he finally stopped letting her get

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Speaker 5: away with it. My mom is here currently unpacking in

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Speaker 5: the other room. Anna has been as obnoxious as ever

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Speaker 5: since my mom and I got here. A couple days

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Speaker 5: ago from our cross country road trip with the moving van,

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00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 5: slamming doors, singing loudly, talking on the phone loudly, sending

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Speaker 5: paragraphs about how my mom has a couple of boxes

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00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 5: in the kitchen which are full of kitchen things, and

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00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 5: now that makes the kitchen unlivable. Over her, Anna has

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00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 5: no room to talk when a whole corner of the

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00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 5: living room has been occupied by a giant pile of

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00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 5: her boxes she hasn't unpacked for the last six plus months,

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00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 5: completely blocking access to the coat utility closet.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I have to put it out there. I put

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00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 2: part of this blame on you, and it's not a

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00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: small amount. You and Dan and the other roommate who

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00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: just decided to run and leave instead of just confronting

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00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 2: this girl. I do. I do put a non insignificant

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00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: portion of blame upon you for having taken six months

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00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 2: to be like this needs to change.

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Speaker 5: I would love to just throw the boxes on the street,

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00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 5: but she could call the cops on me for that,

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Speaker 5: So for now they just have to stay. Despite all this,

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Speaker 5: I am simply ignoring her. Dan currently has the flu,

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00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 5: but once he feels better, we're gonna have to sit

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Speaker 5: down and figure out our game plan. As Anna has

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00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 5: said to both of us that she will not be leaving.

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00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,959
Speaker 5: She flat out refused to honor the thirty day notice

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Speaker 5: we gave, so it's likely going to housing court for us,

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Speaker 5: which unfortunately may be a long process. I cannot tolerate

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00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 5: her being here for that long, and she can't afford

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Speaker 5: to pay the retainer for legal representation. So fingers crossed,

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00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 5: she gives up and leaves. And that's the end of

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Speaker 5: that story, folks. I sure hope, so girl, I sure hope.

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Speaker 2: So hey, it's John here.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to this episode, but a quick

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00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: three minute break with aswerm our sponsors.

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00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 2: Our landlords keep getting strangers into our apartment without a notice.

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Speaker 5: That sounds illegal.

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00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 2: My roommate and I moved into an apartment on June first.

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00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 2: Immediately we started having issues with the heating and cooling.

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00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 2: We let our landlord know as soon as possible, and

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00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 2: they didn't get back to us until the morning they

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00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 2: were going to let the handyman into our By the way,

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Speaker 2: I'm Dakota.

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00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 5: I'm Sophia, I'm Carly, and we're here to give.

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Speaker 2: You good advice. Goofily. We don't have all the answers

1153
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 2: really know what we'd do, so if you do something else,

1154
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 2: let us know in the comments. I was at work

1155
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 2: and my roommate works nights, so she was sleeping after

1156
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 2: a shift. My landlord, without giving us a legal twenty

1157
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: four hour notice, let three men into our home. Not

1158
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 2: even a week later. I was trying to get our

1159
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 2: internet set up when I noticed we didn't have a

1160
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 2: cable outlet. I called my landlord and asked where it

1161
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 2: would be. She said there isn't one, and I would

1162
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: have to have a technician come and put one in.

1163
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 2: I got a hold of a technician and set an appointment,

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Speaker 2: then immediately called my landlord back and told her about

1165
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 2: the appointment. The day came and the technician was looking

1166
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 2: around trying to find where to put it. He realized

1167
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: there were two cable lines running from our power bank

1168
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 2: into our apartment that my landlord had cut and shoved

1169
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 2: into the basement. He said he needed to get into

1170
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Speaker 2: the basement to see the best place for this. I

1171
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 2: got a hold of my landlord and she was furious,

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Speaker 2: Why didn't you.

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Speaker 7: Give me a heads up that you were having a

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Speaker 7: technician come out the basement doors through the other person's apartment,

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Speaker 7: so you'll have to reschedule. The other tenants need a

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Speaker 7: twenty four hour notice before anyone enters the apartment.

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Speaker 2: I was pissed, but she said okay, goodbye and told

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Speaker 2: the technician to come back another day. You didn't immediately

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00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: go what about our apartment?

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Speaker 5: Wait, they said you couldn't bring a technician in for

1181
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 5: your but they had random people come in without giving

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00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 5: you any notif like notifications about that.

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00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 2: Then lo and behold. She drives to our apartment and

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Speaker 2: talks to the technician. He tells her the only way

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00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 2: to do it is by drilling a hole outside. She

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00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: was pissed about this as well, but I told her

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Speaker 2: he's already here and I don't want to reschedule. He's

1188
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 2: not going to hurt your wall. Just let him drill.

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Speaker 2: She finally did, muttering under her breath and drove off.

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Speaker 2: Fast forward. We had an air conditioner unit in our

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Speaker 2: kitchen before we moved in, so it wasn't ours as

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00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 2: the weather cooled down. We needed that out because we

1193
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 2: have older wooden windows that let all the air in.

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00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 2: My land said they would eventually take it out. After

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Speaker 2: two weeks of calling and asking for a time and

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Speaker 2: date of when they could come. She called the morning

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Speaker 2: of and said her husband would be out in the

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Speaker 2: next hour or so to take it out. As stated before,

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Speaker 2: my roommate works nights, so in the morning she is sleeping.

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Speaker 2: I work a nine to five Monday through Friday, so

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00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 2: I wasn't home during the morning hours. I had to

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Speaker 2: tell my boss that I needed to run home so

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Speaker 2: my roommate isn't left by herself with a stranger while

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Speaker 2: she's asleep. I sat and sat for an hour and

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00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 2: a half and needed to get back to work. I

1206
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: called her and said I needed to leave soon and

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Speaker 2: that he would have to come back when my roommate

1208
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 2: was awake. She said, it's okay, we can just let

1209
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: ourselves in. No, as I exit the house, he is

1210
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 2: standing there ready to take the air conditioner out again

1211
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 2: in violation of the twenty four hour notice. And since

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00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 2: it's not an emergency, I believe I can legally tell

1213
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 2: her she can't enter the home. Yeah, which she was

1214
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 2: choosing to ignore.

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00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 5: No, you can legally say, hey, you didn't give me

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00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 5: enough notice the leave, do not come in my home.

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00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 2: As the months move on, start to notice a pot smell.

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00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: My roommate has a heart condition and cannot be around

1219
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 2: things like that. Certain smells trigger her. We immediately tell

1220
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 2: our landlord, and she doesn't believe us. She says, well,

1221
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Speaker 2: if you smell it again, I'll come over and smell

1222
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 2: it too, which is absurd. We have no reason to lie.

1223
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Speaker 2: I personally know our connecting neighbors. They are acquaintances of mine.

1224
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 2: I know for a fact that they do smoke. That

1225
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 2: we have not smelled the smelly smell since, which leads

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00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: me to believe she gave them a heads up or warning.

1227
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 2: Some time goes on and the neighbors have three small

1228
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 2: children who bang on the walls day and night. No,

1229
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 2: that's actually just your neighbors. There are people living in

1230
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: your walls.

1231
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, they live in your walls and they go bump up.

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Speaker 4: Up up.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have your neighbors, and then the other neighbors,

1235
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 2: who are the ones with the kids.

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00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 5: They live in between.

1237
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Speaker 2: You've got people in your walls eating the asbestos and

1238
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 2: the fiberglass insulation. This couple argues loudly day and night.

1239
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 2: We tried to deal with it, but you can only

1240
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 2: tolerate so much. We let the landlord know about the

1241
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 2: banging and constant screen, and she did nothing about this

1242
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 2: and just laughed it off. A month ago, we noticed

1243
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 2: a leak in the kitchen sink despite us snaking the

1244
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 2: tub in the bathroom, it wasn't unclogging. We needed those

1245
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 2: two things looked at. The landlord's husband comes over to

1246
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 2: take a look and see if he could fix it

1247
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 2: before calling anyone. He fixes the sink immediately. Then we

1248
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 2: go to the bathroom. He bends down and starts looking

1249
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 2: at the drain. My roommate tells him she sent a

1250
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,240
Speaker 2: video to the wife about the noise the drain was making.

1251
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 2: He says, oh, we can get video from you, which

1252
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 2: is wildly creepy and inappropriate.

1253
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 5: Oh no, saying oh we can get video from you,

1254
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 5: which sounds like they have no there's a question mark.

1255
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 5: Then I don't understand.

1256
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 2: I think he's saying like, oh, you send video, Like

1257
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 2: oh you send a video to me? You you sending

1258
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 2: videos over here? He says, Oh, we can get video

1259
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 2: from you. We both look at each other and get uncomfortable.

1260
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: He finishes and leaves, saying he'll make an appointment for

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00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 2: a plumber. They tell us the date and time after

1262
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 2: we called for two weeks. The morning of I'm on

1263
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 2: my way home from my father's house. I thought the

1264
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 2: appointment was at nine thirty, not eight thirty. I get

1265
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 2: a call from my roommate, Hey, please be awake and ready.

1266
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: The plumber will be there soon. I panic. Literally five

1267
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 2: minutes from home at eight twenty eight, I speed up.

1268
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 2: I get home at eight thirty three and see the

1269
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 2: plumber leaving when I get a message from my roommate

1270
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 2: landlord's name. Let plumber in by the way, so just

1271
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 2: be ready. She didn't call me an ask, she just

1272
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 2: let him in. My blood is boiling because she didn't

1273
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 2: call me either. If she had, she would have known

1274
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 2: I was almost there. We have expressed to our landlord

1275
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 2: that we don't feel comfortable not being home while someone

1276
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 2: is there. It's literally just human decency. Again, my roommate

1277
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 2: is asleep during the morning hours, so what if she

1278
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 2: wakes up and finds a stranger in the house. What

1279
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 2: if I was home and not decent. I respond, I

1280
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 2: understand that, and we are happy they did as well.

1281
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 2: It's more of a safety concern and not personal. It's

1282
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 2: part of living on your own as women. A call

1283
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 2: would have been very much appreciated. The landlord responds, we

1284
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 2: gave you plenty of heads up. Our assistant called you

1285
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 2: last week. Have a good day. That's just rude. We

1286
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 2: have done nothing to her. We are quiet tenants. We

1287
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 2: don't bother anyone, and we treat the home with respect.

1288
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 2: We tell them immediately when something is wrong and try

1289
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 2: to get it fixed quickly before something bad happens. I

1290
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 2: would have started documenting all the times your landlord was

1291
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 2: violating your rights as a tenant.

1292
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, like document keep receipts, all of that, because

1293
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 5: this is not legal. Keep their receipts.

1294
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 2: If ever, there's a problem that you might be able

1295
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 2: to fix on your own for a very small amount

1296
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:25,919
Speaker 2: of money. I would do that just so I don't

1297
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 2: have to deal with these people. But it is concerning

1298
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 2: your safety safety first, you know. Yeah, we have a

1299
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 2: little bit more story. I know our connecting neighbors. I

1300
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 2: reached out to the wife and asked about her experience

1301
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 2: with our landlord in lack of twenty four hour notice.

1302
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 2: She told me absolutely not. They always get a notice,

1303
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 2: and then some she advised us to have a conversation

1304
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 2: with our landlord since this behavior is extremely concerning. I

1305
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 2: told her how we have and we still aren't treated

1306
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 2: with respect. She was shocked. So with all of this

1307
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 2: being said, is this in violation of our right to

1308
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,919
Speaker 2: quiet enjoyment? What do we do to take further action?

1309
00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 2: If it is? This is a year long lease we have,

1310
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 2: I haven't even been here for half a year, Like

1311
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 2: I said, June first was moving day and it's only

1312
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:05,240
Speaker 2: November fourth.

1313
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 5: I mean I would get want the second release is over. Obviously,

1314
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 5: get out of this place, because this is a landlord

1315
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 5: that does not respect your rights as tenants. But also

1316
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 5: just yeah, I think same thing was what you were saying.

1317
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 5: Keep track of those violations, write them all down, you

1318
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 5: can get some sort of legal advice.

1319
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 2: I would almost I would want my own camera, just

1320
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 2: because yeah, there's something weird going.

1321
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 5: On here, Like it's very weird, very creepy.

1322
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 2: Your neighbors are like, no, we're fine, they're fine. There's

1323
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 2: something about you two living there, maybe as maybe it's

1324
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 2: because you're like not a family, yeah too, single women

1325
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 2: or something. Yeah, and for some reason this landlord couple

1326
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: or like just freakazoids about that.

1327
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would pretty uncomfortable about that. And you want

1328
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 5: to be you want to feel safe.

1329
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd have my own camera in my house to

1330
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 2: make sure there's no tom foolery going on on the

1331
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: one's there.

1332
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 5: Agreed, I'm keeping an eye on those people in my walls.

1333
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 2: Comm my number one. Not overreacting, but honestly, you are

1334
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 2: not dealing with this in a very mature way. You

1335
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 2: need to actually deal with these problems rather than just

1336
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 2: complaining that things aren't fair. I know that's easier said

1337
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 2: than done, but I have done my share of basement

1338
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,479
Speaker 2: suite slash apartment living. First of all, you are all

1339
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 2: over the place with your accusations. Separate the intrusions from

1340
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 2: the noise and the devil's lettuce complaints, et cetera. Otherwise

1341
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 2: you just sound like you hate them and are ranting

1342
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 2: about anything and everything. Second, stand up for yourself. Send

1343
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 2: a paper trail of emails that log your complaints. Take

1344
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 2: as much video and pictures as you can, log the

1345
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 2: times that they enter with pictures, et cetera, and compare

1346
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 2: it to the correspondence you received. Once you have a

1347
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 2: pattern of evidence that your rights are being violated, take

1348
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 2: the evidence to your landlord, along with a copy of

1349
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 2: the law they are violating. If they continue to do so,

1350
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 2: contact the tendency branch in your province or state. I

1351
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 2: once had to do this over refusal to return damaged deposits,

1352
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,919
Speaker 2: and they contacted the landlord, who immediately folded Ope. He says,

1353
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 2: maybe we aren't being the most mature, but our landlord

1354
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 2: is backing us into a wall. I'm not sure what

1355
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 2: else we could be doing besides what we have. We

1356
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 2: try to be and keep a smile on our face

1357
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 2: around them, but in private we speak about it. The

1358
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 2: apartments we live in are smoke free and also pet free,

1359
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 2: so that's why we instantly told our landlord. Because the

1360
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 2: smoke free mixed with her heart condition, which our landlord

1361
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 2: is aware of, felt like the best course of action.

1362
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 2: I also didn't add that we smelled the smell consistently

1363
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 2: over the course of two weeks before saying anything. We

1364
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 2: absolutely have a paper trail, not even just for this

1365
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 2: specific reason, but because I like keeping everything I do

1366
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 2: and say with a lot of things I work for

1367
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 2: an insurance company, so I'm taught to always have proof

1368
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 2: of everything. Glad you got your deposit back, and thanks

1369
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 2: for your input. It's very useful for us. We're just

1370
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 2: two young women trying to navigate a whole new world

1371
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 2: of apartment living. And that is the end of that story.

1372
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: And I do have a feeling it's because you are

1373
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 2: too young, Yes, single woman women trying to.

1374
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 5: Take advantage or being creepy. And I think that commentary

1375
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 5: was like, you're not being immature when you're two young

1376
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 5: women who probably this is like the first time or

1377
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 5: maybe first couple of times that you've been in an apartment.

1378
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 5: You haven't dealt with a lot of this stuff.

1379
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're two young women, you're not very much.

1380
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 2: And that's the end of this story.