1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotlieb Show podcast. Be 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to five, 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio dot com, 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: by searching app as car Booming Up America. Doug Gottlieb Show, 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Coming to you from beautiful Grain Bay, 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: Wisconsin and Sherman Oaks, California. Double dip and of course 9 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: today you know how we do it. It's the Doug 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: Gottlieb Show. It's a Monday. It's great to be with you. 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: Hope you had an outstanding weekend As we creep closer 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: and closer to football being on television, which makes everybody, 13 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: everybody more engaging what we're doing. Let's just kind of 14 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: be honest, right, and that's just the reality to it. 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: So Hope you're good. Hope you're good. Have you checked 16 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: out our YouTube page. You should see all of our 17 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: stuff on it, all of it, follow it all. Uh. 18 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: Can we start with Caleb Williams? Shall we? 19 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 2: So? 20 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams has been probably the second most discussed quarterback 21 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: of this offseason. That's that's I'm gonna go with. I'm 22 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: gonna go with the second most discussed quarterback of this 23 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: off season. You're like, Okay, well, how did you how 24 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: do you come to that conclusion. Well, I would say 25 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was the most discussed quarterback in this offseason. 26 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: You know, the visit to the Steelers, the waiting, the assumption, 27 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: then finally he agrees the terms of the Steelers. It's 28 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: not that you know, there was a there was a 29 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: small period of time where somebody in sports radio talked 30 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: about Pat Mahomes weight. Right. There's been some discussions about 31 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson and the Colts and the idea that that 32 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: Danny die is going to beat him out. There's obviously 33 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: Shadoor Sanders and the waiting in the NFL draft, and 34 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: Joe Flaco and the Browns of an average at best 35 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: team have been over discussed. But again, and this is 36 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: purely on my spidey senses, that Caleb Williams is the 37 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: second most discussed quarterback of the off season. Why he 38 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: was last year's number one overall pick. He's in a 39 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: major market in Chicago. The Bears has fired their coach 40 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: hired Ben Johnson, who's seen this an offensive guru, changed 41 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: so much of their offensive personnel set him up, we 42 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: think for success. Cowherd has moved to Chicago, so suddenly 43 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: now he is the voice of Chicago Sports. Like all 44 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: of these things are happening at once. So we're talking 45 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: a ton about Caleb Williams would normally he's just a 46 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: second year of quarterback coming off of a disappointing first year, 47 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: and you got people sort of freaking out about his 48 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: play this past weekend. First there was the viral video 49 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 1: of him trying to throw the ball into one of 50 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: those nets with the specific holes for different throws and 51 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 1: then looking like he was throwing a fit. And I'd 52 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 1: give it a bit of a pass because we don't 53 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: know if they were playing for money, and if he 54 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: had nailed it the first ten times and this was 55 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: the eleventh time, or he just stinks and can't throw 56 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: a football. I don't know, and I don't care. What 57 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: I do know is that Ben Johnson is widely regarded 58 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: as an offensive guru. He was brought in. If they 59 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: didn't have Caleb Williams, they wouldn't have hired Ben Johnson, 60 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: right but if you have an elite quarterback or potentially 61 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: early quarterback, you hire the most elite offensive coordinator. Ben 62 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: Johnson was seen as that with the Detroit Lions. Here's 63 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson after a scrimmage where the fans saw Caleb 64 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: Williams struggle. 65 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: We got some good work in. 66 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: It was sloppy, sloppier than I'm probably hoping we would 67 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 3: be at this point. Particularly, we had a couple of 68 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: really good practices over the last two and then took 69 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 3: us a little while to get going and hear the 70 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 3: pads clicking. But I thought towards the end we picked 71 00:03:58,560 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 3: it up and it got pretty competitive. 72 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's disappointed. It's not the end of the world. 73 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: But it does give you caution. It does give you caution. 74 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: And you know, there's been some other discussions over why 75 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: he doesn't throw the ball downfield and that he holds 76 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: onto the ball too long, and both of those things, 77 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: the crispness of his downfield throws and the holding on 78 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: the ball too long, have both led people to be 79 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: a little bit disappointed. So far, it doesn't matter, like 80 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: none of this stuff matters. Trey Lance looked unbelievable of 81 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame Game. None of it really needs 82 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: the third quarterback on the Charger's depth chart. It doesn't 83 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: really matter until there's real games, and then it does, 84 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: and it's starting to kind of paint the picture of yikes, yikes, yikes. 85 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: And you know, this is one of those things where 86 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: we don't have context. We don't know. I mean, it's 87 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: like the Browns are constantly having letting people put out 88 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: the stats for their quarterbacks, Like we don't know who 89 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: went the ones, the twos, the threes, what they're trying 90 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 1: to work on. I can tell you this from obviously 91 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: personal experience as a coach. Last season in the summer, 92 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: we did mostly offense. We did a lot of we 93 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: did defense. We had, you know, one day a week 94 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: would be solely defense, one day week would be solely offense, 95 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: and then one day week we would scrimmage and then 96 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: we'd have one day where it would be kind of 97 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: a hybrid of the two. But guess focusing a little 98 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: bit more on offense. And the idea behind it was, 99 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: hey man, I'm new all these guys could leave. We 100 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: want to keep it fun and we want to learn 101 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: to have them play together and really be crisp offensively. Ultimately, 102 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: the defense and the rebounding is what undid us. Now. 103 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: We had a lot of injuries, so wouldn't have might 104 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: not have mattered anyway, But if you watched our practices 105 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: now and we're off for the next couple of weeks, 106 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,239 Speaker 1: you would say, Wow, the offense looks kind of clunky. 107 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: The defense. We don't know if the defense is really 108 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: that much better or it's just because we haven't worked 109 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: a ton of offense. We've worked a ton of defense 110 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: and rebounding. But it does stand a reason that if 111 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: you hire Ben Johnson, you put in all new offensive players, 112 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: and you put in an offensive system, and you have 113 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: a quarterback who's back after starting a rookie season, that 114 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: it should look better than it looks. The guess is 115 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 1: that Ben Johnson has his hands fingerprints all over the 116 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: offense and that's got to be his bride and joy, 117 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: and it's not working out us off yet. And the 118 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: difference in the NFL now as opposed to the NFL 119 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: twenty years ago is that guys play right away and 120 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: if in year two they can't play like they've gotten 121 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: two years of playing and you're like, yeah, I don't know, 122 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: then you do know, and you move on. You do know, 123 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: you move on. There's a lot of talk about the 124 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: CBA and about the fairness of things and about rookie 125 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: contract et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. I will tell 126 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: you that Kayleb Williams is the first of the nil 127 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: generational quarterbacks. Remember, didn't have a senior year, Right, it's COVID. 128 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: So comes in and it wasn't COVID. It was the 129 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: year year before it was COVID. Yeah, he came in 130 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: from DC. He was sitting behind Spencer Rattler, and then 131 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: three games in he was the start at Oklahoma and 132 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: then left Oklahoma to follow Lincoln Riley to USC. He 133 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: was far and away the highest paid player at USC. 134 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: And yeah, ad he stayed in college, he probably would 135 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: have made more money in that final year than he 136 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: made his rookie year with the Bears. But the reason 137 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: you go to the NFL is for that second big 138 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: paycheck where now you make generational wealth, life changing wealth, 139 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: and the kind of wealth to where you can put 140 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: it away and never work a day in your life 141 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: if you know you're doing but it has not gone 142 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: as according to plan. This is not me telling you. 143 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams stinks. He made some plays last year like ooh, 144 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: some of those golf swing like plays right, like that 145 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: one golf swing, Like, hey, you're not bad. I was 146 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: that that way. This Saturday. Saturday, I got up a 147 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: friend of mine who he's the CEO of Fast and All. Anyway, 148 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: we went up to a course in Door County. Maxwell 149 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: Brace is what it's called. It's just a muni. He 150 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: never plays because he works all the time. And we 151 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: played and he's like, how good are He's like, ah, 152 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm okay. And then once we got to the sixth 153 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: or seventh hole, like I hit a couple. I was like, hey, 154 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: you're pretty good. Like no, no, no, don't kid yourself. 155 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: We're at whole six and now I hit a couple 156 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: of decent shots. But for Caleb Williams, that's kind of 157 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 1: how he was last year where there was a couple 158 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: of players You're like, hey, bears might have the guy. 159 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: You know, if you put a better offense around, a 160 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: better offensive line, better offensive scheme, better skill position, players like, 161 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: you might have a guy. Well they have all that, 162 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: and he's still in that kind of golf mode like 163 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: there's a throw here, or there, but otherwise doesn't look great. 164 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: Doesn't look great. But when your head coach is an 165 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: offensive guy and the expectations are him to be the 166 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: offensive grou to fix things. And I'm sure the biggest 167 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: reason they hired him was not just that he's a 168 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: sexy candidate, but that he could work and fix their quarterback. Right. 169 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: He made Jared Goff into an elite quarterback. That's how 170 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: he's seen. But here we are a month or so 171 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: into the Caleb Williams experiment with Ben Johnson, and to 172 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: say mixed results to be would be overstating the positive. 173 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 4: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 174 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 4: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on 175 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 176 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: Doug gott leave Show Fox Sports Radio. Let's dense. Oh, 177 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: we got a bunch to get to. Man, the Yankees 178 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: kind of stink right, got swept over the weekend when 179 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: snuck up on me. Yeah, we'll talk aboutle baseball. Baseball 180 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 1: misic goes on the IL. By the way, when did 181 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: the DL become the I L. I'm just I'm just 182 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: wondering there. 183 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 3: Maybe about three or four years ago when the word 184 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: disabled became a derogatory tom Ah. 185 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: Did was it like a broadcasting or did somebody suddenly 186 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 1: do it? And like everybody just. 187 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 2: Copied, Baseball made it a rule. 188 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: Are they baseball injured list is supposed to disabled list? 189 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 5: They also changed Remember we never had a ten day 190 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 5: d L. It was always fifteen day DL. Now we 191 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 5: have a ten day and a fifteen day. 192 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: Take a quick closing the house. It's the Doug Gottlieb 193 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: Show here on Fox Sports Radio. And he's our good friend. 194 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: Of course, he's the former general manager of both the 195 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: Chargers and the Raiders, and now he's going to be 196 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: a weekly contributor here to the Doug Gottlieb Show. He's 197 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: Tom Telesco kind of to spend some time with us. 198 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: And what is this year like? Right? It was twelve 199 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: straight years eleven straight with the Chargers, one with the 200 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: Raiders as a general manager. What is this year like 201 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: to not have to worry about cutting down a roster 202 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: and putting things together for week one of the season. 203 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I'll be honest, it's really different. I mean, 204 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 6: for me, it's been thirty years in the NFL. It's 205 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 6: best thirty training camps that I've been in and then 206 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 6: I played four years of. 207 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: College football, four years of high school football. 208 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 6: That's thirty eight straight years I was in training camp 209 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 6: this time of year. So it's been different. So I've 210 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 6: been just trying to fill the void with things like this, 211 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 6: you know, just talking football, keeps being engaged doing some 212 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 6: different things in the saw, whether it's you know, talking 213 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 6: NFL football, college football that I'm gonna do a little 214 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 6: bit of media stuff, and then taking some high school 215 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 6: football on the side. So just trying to feel that 216 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 6: football void that that that I'll have to this is 217 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 6: all I know. But it's been a different experience. It's 218 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 6: something I'm trying to get used to and trying to 219 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 6: enjoy it a little bit, not having that the three 220 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 6: hundred and sixty five day a year pressure over the 221 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 6: top of your head, which I kind of enjoy that 222 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 6: part of it, but I'd like to take a step 223 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 6: back and enjoy life a little bit. 224 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: Okay. Well, one of the success stories of the end 225 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: of your tenure with the Chargers was the drafting of 226 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: Rashaun Slater. He signed a four year, one hundred and 227 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: fourteen million dollar deal. Do you think it matters what 228 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: side he plays on, probably not. 229 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 6: You know, they're so unique that they have two tackles, 230 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 6: him and Joe All they can play left or right. 231 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 6: Typically with me like if I have a player that's 232 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 6: a difference maker a certain position and I just don't 233 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 6: want to move him, you know, I wouldn't want to 234 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 6: mess with that. And Joe Wall proved to be an 235 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 6: excellent right tackle. So sick Ray Shawn's in a good spot. 236 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 6: It's funny when when he was at Northwestern, there were 237 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 6: just a lot. 238 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 2: Of talks because he doesn't have. 239 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 6: That typical length and height arm length for a tackle, 240 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 6: So there are a lot of discussions amongst teams, even 241 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 6: amongst us our coaching staff are our scouting staff, is 242 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 6: he at guard? 243 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 2: Is he a center? 244 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 6: In the end, and we did a lot of work 245 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 6: and decided, look, he's a left tackle. He blocked some 246 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 6: really good pass rushers in the Big ten. He's got outstanding. 247 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 6: I saw the cability. He's very strong, he can anchor 248 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 6: on people. His arms are a little bit short for 249 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 6: the position. But in the end, like we decided, if 250 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 6: that is his only negative and it doesn't really show 251 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 6: up in his play, I think we can handle that part. 252 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 3: Of it. 253 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 2: So I'm glad he got paid. 254 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 6: He's really earned it, and you know he's a big 255 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 6: time player for them. 256 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: And I saw it with the weekend. I'm sure you did. 257 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: Keenan's coming back. What does he have left in the tank? 258 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 6: He is such an outstanding runner, not only with his 259 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 6: quickness but that he still has but his feel for 260 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 6: the game, so I think he still had some play 261 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 6: in him. Obviously him and knowing Justin Herbert very well, 262 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 6: that will take long to get that connection going again. 263 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 6: And he's just he's a reliable player on third down 264 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:26,479 Speaker 6: and right now, Lad McConkey is that guy, and he's outstanding. 265 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 6: You worry a little bit about the size and the 266 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 6: beating that he takes because he is tough. He works 267 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 6: the middle of the field a lot, so you want 268 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 6: to make sure you have enough options out there. Keenan 269 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 6: will give them a great option if that's what happens. 270 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: Hopefully it does. 271 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 6: Would love to see him and his career as a charger, 272 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 6: and Keenan being a really good VET decides maybe I'll 273 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 6: wait a couple of weeks in the training camp before 274 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 6: I get out there. 275 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 2: So yeah, you know what he's doing. 276 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's no, he's no new beat to this thing. Okay, 277 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: let's go to the Let's go to the Raiders. You're 278 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: their GM up until right for the right for the 279 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: draft until late in the end of the spring. What 280 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: are your thoughts on what they're I mean, you were 281 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: trying to change that roster around, and you know that 282 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: you keep having It's like there are how they are 283 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: a reconstructed house that keeps bringing in different contractors. What 284 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: is his contractor what have they done to make it 285 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: look different than when you left it. 286 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 6: Look, I'm gonna be completely honest, honest with you, Like 287 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 6: I think they've done a great job what they did 288 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 6: in the off season. You know, getting Geno Smith in there, it. 289 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: Was just huge. 290 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 6: You know, he's got he's got background as a player, 291 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 6: a good veteran presence. You know, he's one of those 292 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 6: few players that has gotten better later in his career 293 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 6: and you know, maybe just needed a chance to play 294 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 6: a longer stretch of time, which you got with the Seahawks. 295 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 6: His relationship with Tie Carroll is nice to have. They 296 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 6: looked at upgrade on offense. Obviously, Ashton gent was standing pick. 297 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,239 Speaker 6: I loved him in college. 298 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 2: The offense just needs a lot more juice. 299 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 6: You know, you can't have only Brock Bowers as far 300 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 6: as an explosive threat, so acid Genty will give that 301 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 6: to them. I think the offensive line is better than 302 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 6: what people think. And the defense, we had some injuries 303 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 6: last year. I think there's a lot there now. They've 304 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 6: They've added a lot of reasons in the off season, 305 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 6: a lot of veteran players, especially at linebacker, but they're 306 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 6: starting to just like Peak tell you think he would. 307 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 6: He's building a secondary in his vision which is tall, 308 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 6: long and fast, and yeah, I think they I think 309 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 6: they made really big strives in the off season. It's 310 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 6: just it's just a really hard division. And we've got 311 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 6: Andy Reid and Sean Payton and Jim Harbaugh. It's just 312 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 6: a tough vision division to get through. So we'll see 313 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 6: what the record ends up at the end of the year. 314 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 6: But I do think they've they've made some big improvements. 315 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: Micah Parson says he wants out. Says he wants out. 316 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: The Cowboys have to do absolutely nothing right because they 317 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: can franchise tag Him for three years and make them 318 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: franchise Taggy. So that can happen, and there's a lot 319 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: of talk about, hey, this is typical Cowboys. No else 320 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: operates this way. But I mean, like, look, Terry McLaurin, 321 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: he wants out the Giants. You know, they had the 322 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: Saquon issue last year. They've they've had plenty of issues. 323 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: So I guess, let me just ask you, if you're 324 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: Steven Jones, how do you handle where Micah Parsons is 325 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: right now? 326 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 6: Well, you know, they've the one thing that's that And 327 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 6: I kind of saw this this that every indication is 328 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 6: going to get worse before it got better. When before 329 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 6: training camp they started to talk publicly about not talking 330 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 6: to the agent. We don't even know his name, cutting 331 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 6: him out of the process. 332 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 2: That's that's just difficult. 333 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 6: It's just it's not common to negotiate directly with the player, 334 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 6: unless of course he doesn't have an agent. 335 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 2: Agents are going to be part of the process. 336 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 6: They are, and they negotiate contracts for a living, you know, 337 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 6: hundreds thousands of contracts, and that's why players use them 338 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 6: for guidance and advice. 339 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 2: On their deal. 340 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 6: So to me, there was just no way to deal 341 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 6: with an get done without the agent involved. So to me, 342 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 6: at this point, it's really about just bending some senses 343 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 6: to make sure you get both sides on the phone 344 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 6: and just working towards that contract and that that's. 345 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 2: Me is the first step to get there. 346 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 6: So whoever makes that first call, I don't know, but 347 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 6: you got to kind of even out the relationship first. 348 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 2: And it sounds like. 349 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 6: And this is smart of the agent's part, that they 350 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 6: wanted to wait to have all these other edge rushers signed, 351 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 6: whether it's Crosby or TJ. Watt, Miles Garrett, get those 352 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 6: on the books and then you know, we'll kind of 353 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 6: use those as comps. So you know, I don't know 354 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 6: if you can bang on the Cowboys too hard for 355 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 6: not getting the deal done early, because this other side, 356 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 6: and I think Stephen Jones and Jerry Jones had mentioned 357 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 6: that other side had to want to get a deal 358 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 6: done as well. Now, obviously he wants to get paid, 359 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 6: but if they want to wait and see where other 360 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 6: deals come in, then you're gonna have to you have 361 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 6: to wait. So that's where they are now. So but 362 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 6: first it's all about relationship. For it's gonna have to 363 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 6: be flooded out before they get moving. I expected to 364 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 6: get done. This is you know, if you're a Cowboys fan. 365 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 6: This is just part of it. But and I don't 366 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 6: see any chance of a trade happening. So the deal 367 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 6: will get done at some point, but it's got to 368 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 6: fix the relationship first. 369 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: Stut gott Leap show here on Fox Sports Traded. Tom 370 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: Telesco is our guest, longtime general manager of the Chargers 371 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: and last year was the general manager of the Las 372 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders. Joins us for his weekly visit here on 373 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Trade and the iHeart Radio app. Caleb Williams 374 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: struggles in an open scrimmage. Then there's the video of 375 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: him missing these are the little squares in the net 376 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: and throwing a little bit of a fit. This on 377 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: the back of what I think anybody would determine was 378 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: at times of disappointing rookie season, he's got Ben Jonson. 379 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: What's what's your thoughts on on Kayleb Williams a year ago? 380 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: Is dounebleling overall? Pick? 381 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean nobody wants to hear it, but you 382 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 6: just have to have patients in this situation. To me, 383 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 6: he's essentially a rookie all over again because it's a 384 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 6: completely new coaching staff, new head coach, new coordinator, new offense. 385 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,239 Speaker 6: There's gonna be different language, different verbiage. There's a lot 386 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 6: of new players on offense. So it's just spent takes 387 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 6: some time, and I know we all like. 388 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 2: To look at short clips on. 389 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 6: Social media and then try and you know, you know, 390 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 6: make the terminations of what you see. But I just 391 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 6: think there's going to be a process for this and 392 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 6: it's just going to take time. It's just not going 393 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 6: to happen overnight. It just doesn't for most players. So 394 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 6: they're just have to grow together. And that's kind of 395 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 6: where we are right now. We'll see how much he 396 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 6: plays in the preseason. I don't know if they've said anything. 397 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 6: You're not Doug, you may know, but you know, he 398 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 6: may need some work in the preseason just just just 399 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 6: running the offense. Ge need to plays in, getting it 400 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 6: plays out, making the change with the line of scrimmage. 401 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 6: But you know, I saw a good amount of Quilee 402 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 6: Williams out here on the West Coast, and there is 403 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 6: definite magic to his game and he'd never want to 404 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 6: take that away. Now it's just about trying to really 405 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 6: smooth out all the inconsistencies and you know, making the 406 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 6: routine plays. You know, the routine on time throws and 407 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 6: that's why they you head coaches in there, and that's 408 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 6: what we're gonna have to smooth out. Hopefully get the 409 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 6: work in the pre season, but even a month of September, 410 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 6: you're gonna see a lot of ups and downs. I 411 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 6: think with this team, I think the defense are going 412 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 6: to try and help keep them, keep them in some 413 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 6: games early as the offense tries to find their niche. 414 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 6: But it's gonna take some time. 415 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: It definitely will take some time. Tom Tollusco is our 416 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: guest here Doug ot Leab Show, Fox Sports Radio. H 417 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: let me ask kind of the Browns situation. Right where 418 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: you got Flacko, I'm guessing he becomes the guy, and 419 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: then you got Dalan Gabriel, who they took higher than 420 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: people thought. Then they go and draft Shador Sanders. Uh, 421 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: you know, then you got a guy who's been a 422 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: starter in Pittsburgh as well as part of that force him. 423 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: What do you think in Kenny Pickett? What do you 424 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: think they do it quarterback? 425 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 2: Well, Doug, I just agree with you. 426 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 6: I just think with with Joe Flacco, they know what 427 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 6: they have, They trust them. He played a lot of 428 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 6: football he knows Thefanski well and there's definitely has to 429 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 6: be a comfort factor, and I just think he provides 430 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 6: all that for them, so to me, I think in 431 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 6: the end it will be him. I haven't been a 432 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 6: part of very many quarterback competitions. I was last year 433 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 6: with the Raiders with Aidan O'Connell and Gardner Minshew, but 434 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 6: I certainly I've never been part of one where he. 435 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 2: Had four quarterbacks. It's hard. 436 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 6: I mean, Kevin Stefanski is as smart as anyone in 437 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 6: the league. 438 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 2: He's a great head coach. 439 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 6: But that's a challenging situation to be in, and they're 440 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 6: handling it pretty well. I mean, I know there's only 441 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,959 Speaker 6: so many snaps to have, but it seems like all 442 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 6: four guys are getting work and not necessarily always with 443 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 6: the ones. And certainly Gabriel and Sanders will. 444 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 2: Play a lot in the preseasons. They'll get a good 445 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 2: look at them there. 446 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 6: But I just take all signs point to Joe being 447 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 6: that starter, but fully knowing that the chances to him 448 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 6: playing every game all seventeen games this year are probably 449 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 6: not great either due to injury performance, So these other 450 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 6: guys have to be ready to go. We'll see who 451 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 6: the next one in is. You know, I don't know 452 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 6: how much Ticket's going to play in the preseasons he 453 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 6: has an injury. It doesn't seem like it's that significant. 454 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 6: But right now they've got to figure out who the 455 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 6: number two is, who's going to be the next man in, 456 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 6: And that's gonna be a lot determined, probably in the 457 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 6: preseason games. 458 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: Yes, it will be Tom Telesco. Of course, Flora Joe 459 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: manager of the Chargers and the Raiders. He's joined us 460 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: in the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Let 461 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: me circle back around to the Chiefs. I mean, there's 462 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: an organization. You know so well, last twelve years, you've 463 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: tried to build teams up to beat him. You had 464 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 1: some success with the Chargers. Is this the year that 465 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: people finally catch up to him? 466 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. 467 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 6: I mean we used to say that all the time 468 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 6: about the Patriots, that eventually they're going to, you know, 469 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 6: come back to the norm, and they never really did. 470 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 6: They just kind of kept rolling along. And when you 471 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 6: have Andy Reid at the Chiefs, you know, he kind 472 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 6: of sense. 473 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 2: The same thing. 474 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 6: Andy Reids and Patrick Mahomes. It's the kind of the 475 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 6: same situation I thought, I mean a lot of really 476 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 6: smart moves in the offseason to kind of keep improving. 477 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,239 Speaker 6: The offensive line was a weak spot last year at 478 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 6: the tackle spot, so they drafted Josh Simmons, and it 479 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 6: seems like he's coming along. We'll see more of him 480 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 6: in the preseason. He really just can't go based on 481 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 6: what you're you know, you're reading a practice. They really 482 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 6: need to see him playing some games. But at least 483 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 6: all indications look good. They still have weapons at receiver, 484 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 6: they're very fast on the outside, and you always have 485 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes. And really the defense has been outstanding the 486 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 6: last three years, and it's really a younger defense. It's 487 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 6: really almost all drafted. I think, I mean had probably 488 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 6: ten nine or ten starters are draft picks on the 489 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 6: younger side that really haven't gone out and bought high 490 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 6: level for agents, which is a sign that you're drafting really, 491 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:51,719 Speaker 6: really well. But you combine the defense, Despgnolo and Patrick Mahomes, 492 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 6: you know, I don't see them coming back. Its falling 493 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 6: back to the pack. There's still going to be a 494 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 6: tough out. But between them Buffalo Baltimore, I mean that 495 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,959 Speaker 6: those are some really big time teams right, the best 496 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 6: three teams in AFC right now. 497 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if you heard this. John Harbaugh 498 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: said that that Lamar Jackson is an incredible passer, that 499 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: his numbers are basically obscene, and he almost took offense 500 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: to the idea that he's got to improve his passing 501 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: or for them to get to the super Bowl. Issue 502 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: with it is, you got eight playoff games and what 503 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: was it like, fifteen to twelve touchdowns, interceptions to something 504 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: not great and you know they just they haven't gotten 505 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: there yet. But more than anything, thirty seven hundred yards. 506 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: I get that the numbers are going to come down 507 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, but we do have half a season 508 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: of sample size that tell us that he's far more 509 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: normal as a quarterback in the regular in the postseason 510 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: as compared to the regular season. Where do you stand 511 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 1: on Lamar and where what he has to do to 512 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: help that team take that next step. 513 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 6: It's hard to explain that the playoff numbers because I 514 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 6: can tell you as an opponent, he's just a nightmare 515 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 6: to play against because there's just no one more explosive 516 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 6: and fast as the quarterback. They can get out and run, 517 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 6: whether it's a designed to grind or a scramble, so 518 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 6: you always have to count for that. And he is 519 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 6: an accurate passer. I mean, he can really put balls 520 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 6: in tight spots. He uses the whole field and when 521 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,959 Speaker 6: he does move, you know, if you're playing zones, so 522 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 6: you can see the quarterback and break on. 523 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 2: Him a kiss. He scrambled. 524 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 6: When he moves, all those zones they change. 525 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: I mean just that. 526 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 6: You know, you're a basketball coach, so you know how 527 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 6: I'm assuming ball movement in basketball can really stress the zone. 528 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,479 Speaker 6: And that's what happens in football in the secondary. All 529 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 6: those zones get distorted and all of a sudden, you 530 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 6: get a big, big void and you've got you know, 531 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 6: Zay Flowers flying through and he can hit receivers. So 532 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 6: he's a nightmare of play against. Now, they've had a 533 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 6: couple of different offensive coordinators, I think this one sits 534 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 6: him really well. To me, it's just a matter of time. 535 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 6: I mean I was looking at their roster today. I'm 536 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 6: an NFL radio letter today, and they've got training camp 537 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 6: there and I mean there aren't very many week spots 538 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 6: at all on their roster, certainly on the starting side, 539 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 6: and maybe a little bit of death and death in 540 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 6: a couple of places, but they're loaded everywhere. So this 541 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 6: is the year, and you know, we'll see how they 542 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 6: get there, how they react in the playoffs. But you know, 543 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 6: like I said, from playing against LAMARW many times, you 544 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 6: still want to face them. 545 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: Awesome stuff, Tom, Listen, We appreciate join us. Look forward 546 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: to talking with you more as we get ready for 547 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: the season. There's no there's no guest you can possibly 548 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: get who has more pertinent information considering what you've lived, 549 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: not just last thirty but specifically the last twelve years. 550 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds good, appreciate it. 551 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 4: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 552 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 4: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. Be 553 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 4: sure to catch the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb 554 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 4: Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. 555 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: Stug gott Leeb show box for radio. 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Let's get to Dan Byer and get 564 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: a game bag. 565 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 4: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. 566 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 5: All right, Dog, The game today is. 567 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 4: Big deal, little deal, no deal? 568 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: All right? 569 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 5: Starting out with this one and what is a three 570 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 5: part series of questions on this topic, big deal, little 571 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 5: deal or no deal? That Luka Doncic and the Lakers 572 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 5: agreed to a three year, one D and sixty five 573 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 5: million dollar extension. 574 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: That's a big deal on a on a multitude of fronts. 575 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: First thing is it is not top dollar, right? Am 576 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: I right in saying that, Dan Byram I hear that 577 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: yesterday when I was driving around listen on the radio. Yes, right. 578 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: So it's one of those things where we just heard 579 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: Lebron James through his you could barely see the strings 580 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: moving when Ridge Paul was talking, right, say, hey, Lebron 581 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: wants playing a championship team. That's what's important to him. 582 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: Yet he signed for the most possible money. He didn't 583 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: have to stay were he actually didn't sign. He he 584 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: opted in to his player option of his contract, which 585 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:41,719 Speaker 1: was fifty three point nine million dollars Luca when he 586 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: was traded, he gave away the chance. Because he was 587 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: traded he couldn't get a super max deal. His response 588 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,719 Speaker 1: was not to take every last penny. It was to 589 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: take a little bit less. Again, I one would guess 590 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: with the idea in mind of putting better players around, 591 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: Lakers are really well positioned to clean the deck at 592 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: the end of next year and build a championship caliber team. 593 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: And he'll be in his mid twenties. So yeah, it's big. 594 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: It's not top dollar, it's con it's it's in contrast 595 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,719 Speaker 1: to Lebron James. It's a very team friendly deal despite 596 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: the fact that it's near one hundred and fifty million 597 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: dollars worth three years. 598 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 5: He can opt out in twenty twenty eight and then 599 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 5: he could sign a five year, four hundred and seventeen 600 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 5: million dollar deal as with the Lakers. That's what could 601 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 5: be next for Luca. All Right, next topic of conversation, 602 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 5: big deal, little deal or no deal that Lebron James 603 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 5: wasn't in the photo at the presser. 604 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: Well, he wasn't at the presser, wasn't at the presser. 605 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: That's a big deal. 606 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 5: And somebody gives it like, so, what's the difference? Is 607 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 5: this just an adding like a you know it not. 608 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: Like he was like, oh he was back in the 609 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: back and he was talking to somebody. They took a 610 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: photo like, oh my bad. Right, Yeah, wasn't there. Sun 611 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: wasn't there. So top big guy in the roster, bottom 612 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: guy and the roster both not there. And you know 613 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: you're posting photos of golf. All those other dudes could 614 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: be there. You're in la. You just posted a video 615 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: working out from the Clippers old workout facility that that 616 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: clutch apparently is using. Yeah, it's a big deal. And 617 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: if it wasn't a big deal, why were you there 618 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,479 Speaker 1: for Westbrooks? Why are you there for Anthony Davis's Why 619 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: have you been there for the other coaching changes? You're 620 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: not there for Luca don chicks. This is a lot 621 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: like you guys A remember when Harry met Sally that's 622 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: why you don't take anybody to the airport early in 623 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: the early relationship. Then she can't say, well, it's taking 624 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,479 Speaker 1: to the airport anymore, all right. For Lebron James, if 625 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: it was a mistake, it was a mistake in going 626 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: to all those other press conferences to now we're like, hey, 627 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: why don't you go to Luca's press conference. I think 628 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: it's a big deal. It's a bad deal. Terrible look 629 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: if that's your team and you're supposedly trying to win 630 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: championships and you're selling, Like again, what is the what 631 00:31:53,360 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: are you saying to Brownie? You know, and what regards 632 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: this of what was meant by it, what was translated 633 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: was we're not happy, so we're pouting, so we're not 634 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: gonna shot up. 635 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,719 Speaker 5: I actually think it's this is all Lakers driven. And 636 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 5: the reason I say that, like they didn't call him, Yeah, well, Doug, 637 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 5: this is the Lakers. This is the team that is 638 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 5: showtime all the time. And I know there's new ownership 639 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 5: coming in. Who announces a contract extension and then you 640 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 5: have a press conference the same day on a Saturday, Like, 641 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 5: I think they purposely did this to kind of take 642 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 5: control and to show that this is Luca's team. Now 643 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 5: they announced the extension, they have a press are the 644 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 5: same day, so the players that are working out there 645 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 5: are the only ones who can show up for the photo. 646 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 5: Obviously Lebron isn't, but I felt that this was such 647 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 5: a Lakers motivated move to kind of respond to all 648 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 5: of Lebron's social media antics, to be like, Okay, well 649 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 5: we're going to take our future guy and we're gonna 650 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 5: immediately have a press conference afterwards. How many times have 651 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 5: we seen press conference coming up on Tuesday or Wednesday. 652 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 5: It was actually buried in the news cycle of a weekend, 653 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 5: which is kind of crazy. So I think this is 654 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 5: all Lakers orchestrated. That's just just very odd to me 655 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 5: that they would do that. I don't know if the 656 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 5: Spurs have a presser coming up later today to announce 657 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 5: Darren Daron Fox's extension, but I'm guessing probably not. 658 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: I bet they do. I bet they do. Listen, I 659 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: you're you're right. But I'll also tell you that the 660 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: Lakers have done this over each of the last off seasons, 661 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: new coach, new player, new contract. They've absolutely done it, 662 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: absolutely done. 663 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 5: On the same day on a Saturday. Like I think 664 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 5: that that that what I'm saying is that they shoehorned 665 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 5: this in. And this is the Lakers team that loves 666 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 5: the pomp and circumstance of everything. Sure, so you're not 667 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 5: going to celebrate you're not going to take four days, 668 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 5: because what happens is if you wait till Tuesday or 669 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 5: Wednesday to do this and Lebron doesn't show up, then 670 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 5: it's what you're saying that Lebron, it's a bad look 671 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 5: at on Lebron. What I think the Lakers wanted was 672 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 5: we're gonna do this without you, Lebron. This is our direction, 673 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 5: this is where we're moving, and we're going full steam ahead. Luca, 674 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 5: you're the face of the franchise. You're going to have 675 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 5: your day. Like I don't think there was any way 676 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 5: that Lebron could have attended this this thing if he 677 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 5: had gotten any sort of heads up. It's just really 678 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 5: weird because this is all done on Saturday, and the 679 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 5: news broke on Saturday. Anyway, big deal, little dealer, no deal. 680 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 5: That the members of the Lakers, including Luco, went to 681 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 5: Vegas to celebrate and see the Backstreet Boys at the sphere. 682 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: Also a big deal because also Lebron wasn't there, Right, 683 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: it's san guy. Anyway, It's impossible not to and Polinka 684 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: went with him. It's impossible not to impossible not to 685 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: make it a big deal, big. 686 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 5: Deal, big deal, little dealer, No deal that the Colts 687 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 5: are listing both Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson as their 688 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 5: first team arterbacks on their depth chart. 689 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a big deal when you have two quarterbacks 690 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: you don't have one, right and that the old thing? 691 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,919 Speaker 5: Yes, I think they're trying to make Anthony Richardson feel good. 692 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. 693 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 5: Finally, Doug, big deal, little deal and no deal that 694 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 5: Shador Sanders misspracticed this weekend with a sore shoulder. He 695 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 5: did return to practice today, but at a source shoulder 696 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 5: over the weekend. Is that a big deal, little deal 697 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 5: or no deal? 698 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: Was it this shoulder? 699 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? Right? 700 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: I can see the video right when if you if 701 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: you're on the YouTube channel, you could see this. Is 702 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: it that I'm doing? The Shador Sanders holding up the 703 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: watch thing? Is it that shoulder? 704 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 5: Finally, Doug, big deal, little deal or no deal? That 705 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 5: the Little League World Series regional games are aired on TV. 706 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 5: This isn't new, but they're going on right now? Do 707 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 5: you like these before? Williamsports? 708 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: It's a little deal, but it's ultimately going to become 709 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: a big deal. The Girls Softball World Series was on 710 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: there too, Yeah. 711 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 5: Right right now, Oklahoma and Texas East are playing in 712 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 5: a Southwest Southwest Region elimination game. 713 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, there's some controversy over at one the Oklahoma 714 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: game yesterday, and that is game time. 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