1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: What's up? 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 2: Its way up with Angela Yee. I'm Angela Yee and 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 2: Jasmine from the Jasmine Brand is here. Yes, and you 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,159 Speaker 2: know it's master your comedy. You know, comedians are some 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: of my favorite people. And Chloe Hilliard is here. 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 3: Hey, what's up? Thanks for having me, but thank you. 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: For showing up. 8 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 3: Absolutely, we appreciate you. 9 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: We had you on on lip Service before too. That 10 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: was a time everything diet. 11 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 3: I just want to say you are a pioneer because 12 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 3: everybody is popping ap on podcasts and you was. You 13 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: laid down a foundations. Yes, you did it first the 14 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 3: first Yeah. 15 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: That p is for podcasts, Okay, but no, but honestly, like, 16 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 2: congratulations to you on everything. You know, it's been a 17 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: while since we sat down like this, but Black Ladies 18 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: Sketch Show. 19 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: We saw the new season just premiere. 20 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 3: That's right, Season four premiere just this past Friday, and 21 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 3: I had the honor of serving as co head writer, 22 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 3: co executive producer. 23 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, fake claps. 24 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 4: You know what. 25 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 3: I think it's so important for people to know that, like, 26 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 3: this is a show that's created by black women. Robin Beetie, 27 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 3: we are the only all black women writers room in Hollywood. 28 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 3: So everything that you see every here, makeup, wardrobe, everything 29 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 3: that you see has come from the minds of black women. 30 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 3: And you know, we're funny. So we're excited for season four. 31 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 3: And we got amazing guest stars like Bobby Brown and 32 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: oh wow, yeah, so many Tracy Ellis Ross, isn't it 33 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 3: Tank Kells and. 34 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: Jay Ellis has some moments we take. 35 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, they were our three Wives men and our 36 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: Biblical sketch So yeah. So we got a lot of 37 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 3: great stuff and we're going bigger and broader and raunchier. 38 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 3: So if you want to get some laughs on Friday night, run, 39 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 3: oh you got. 40 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 4: A lot of runs. 41 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 2: I remember when the show first premiered, My god daughter 42 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: was at my house and it was like we made 43 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: a night out of it. She came over, she's in college, 44 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: she was just starting college, and she was like, you know, 45 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: I want to watch this show, like we wanted to 46 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: watch it together them. So she came over and we 47 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: just sat down and we were watching Black Ladies Sketchy. 48 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: It's a phone watch, Like truly, this is my second 49 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: season on the show, but like this season we all 50 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 3: are like, yo, this one is you tap our own 51 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 3: hat because we were on the show before becoming Oh no, 52 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 3: I was just a writer producer last season season three, 53 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 3: and then I got promoted this season and worked with 54 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: an incredible coh writer and Robin t. D showed us 55 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 3: the ropes of like running the show and it's been great. 56 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: All right, Well we got some fun things. 57 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: We actually watched the first episode of the fourth season together. 58 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: Yes, as we should. I think it's a fun show 59 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: to watch, like with your. 60 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 4: Girls, Like, come over so we can watch this episode. 61 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: Okay. I like doing stuff like that. It's like having 62 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: like a little watch party. 63 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 3: And also we don't get to see us like you 64 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: don't to see us having fun, like you know, we 65 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 3: were just talking about another show before this. But it's 66 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 3: like we have the drama and we have like the 67 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 3: heartfelt stuff, but like just silly, goofy stuff and you know, 68 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: dancing and hanging out with your girlfriends, talking about girls shop, 69 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 3: sleeping with a pilot like. 70 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: That's us the pilot but yeah, girls talking about Yeah. 71 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: First of all, we love a girl's trap. 72 00:02:58,320 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 73 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: To be very clear, New Year's we took a girl's tip. 74 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 2: We went to Saint Martin. It was me Jazz Main, 75 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: Mashanda you know, sometimes girls' chips start out with a 76 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 2: whole lot more people. 77 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 3: And then oh yeah, no, no, it's whoever shows up, 78 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: that's that's the new We. 79 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,399 Speaker 4: Had this huge house, three of them. 80 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but then you're like, okay, so now we got 81 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: to break down the pavements. 82 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: And you know, I wish people would be more honest 83 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: about it, like if you know you can't go, just 84 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: so you can't go, and we're not mad at you, 85 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 3: but I'll be mad if you say you're going and 86 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: then you don't go, because then, like you said, now 87 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 3: we gotta resplit the bill. We didn't afford. We didn't 88 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 3: think we're gonna. 89 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: Have expensive It is expensive time, and we had two options, right, 90 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: it was either the bigger, nicer house that was newer, 91 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: no one has stayed in it yet they just remodeled it, 92 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: or another house that was way less expensive. And I 93 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: thought about that first, but then I was like, nah, 94 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: a gram is gonna look way better, and you. 95 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 4: Know, actually, gotta give me a pep talk. We worked 96 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 4: too hard. Jazz get that. 97 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 3: We worked too hard, saying everybody needs Angela in their 98 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: life because when you when you come from a scarcity 99 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: mindset and survival more is really hard for you. But like, 100 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: you know what, I'm gonna treat myself to you. You 101 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 3: are the good angel on the side. 102 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 4: I don't know because shoes, Jess, you work too hard. 103 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 3: You see the shoes. 104 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 4: I'm like, yes, but. 105 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: It's true because I think sometimes we feel like really 106 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 2: nervous to spend money, and then there's also this thing 107 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: where you feel like this is a waste of money. 108 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: You know, we're finally getting to it. Why are we 109 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: spending it on these design and things? And it's like no, 110 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 2: sometimes I want to get something that is Listen, do you. 111 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 4: Did you struggle growing up or did you always kind. 112 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 3: Of have Oh? No, no, no, yeah, oh oh I 113 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 3: was poor Okay, but you know I got to define 114 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 3: poor like yeah poor relative, poor is relative, Like I'm 115 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 3: from New York City, so poor. It was like poor 116 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 3: working class, like my parents work. My mom worked in 117 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 3: Bloomingdale's for forty years. My dad's counts. Yeah. Oh my 118 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 3: mom like she's you. She was like, you deserve it, 119 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 3: you need this. I'm like, calm down, I'm chill out. 120 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 3: But no, she's always the one that's like, yeah, treat 121 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: yourself to nice things. Like she actually told me just 122 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 3: recently because the same thing, same conversation that you had, 123 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 3: Like in my mind being like, Okay, should I spend 124 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 3: this money? Should I do this? And she was like, Cooe, 125 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 3: you are a Walmart Target girl. It's time for you 126 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: to really embrace you're success, so go ahead and treat yourself. 127 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 3: So okay, yeah, mom, thanks, But growing up, you know, like, yeah, 128 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: we we were on a budget. Like you know, my 129 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 3: parents worked really hard and we came My grandparents were 130 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 3: sharecroppers in South Carolina, so like we came from the 131 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 3: Great Migration to New York and like we understood the struggle. 132 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 3: And so for me now from being a native New 133 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 3: Yorker moving to LA working in Hollywood and seeing like 134 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: the abundance, it's like, oh yeah, people are spending money 135 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 3: and I should probably treat myself a little bit better 136 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 3: and be okay with it. 137 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: How is it being a New Yorker in LA. We 138 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 2: saw some of your stand up where you talk about it. 139 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 3: The difference is okay, Okay, So New York, New York 140 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 3: is an abusive place, but we love it. But you 141 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, it's like that it's at that 142 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 3: drunk abu abusive uncle that come over. That's great, you 143 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: know for like the family events, but like when he 144 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 3: turned the table over you, I kick him out. Like 145 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 3: that's New York and in LA is like this sweet 146 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 3: caring place on the surface, but behind the back, it's 147 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 3: like really send a certain dark and you got to 148 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 3: be mindful of it. So I think my approach being 149 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 3: a native New Yorker, I call out stuff, and you know, 150 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 3: it's I can't help but to be honest. And so 151 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 3: in LA, I think that's really helped me because when 152 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 3: I'm in conversations and meetings and I just say what 153 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,679 Speaker 3: it is, and people are like, You're so refreshing, and I'm. 154 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: Like, okayang's honest. Yeah, And people ask you all the time, 155 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: what do you do in LA? Because I know that's 156 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 2: an LA thing. 157 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't tell people anymore. 158 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you. 159 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 3: And you know why, it's honestly because of men. Because 160 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 3: men are like gold diggers up like they are. They're 161 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 3: sluts in a nice way, like they really want to 162 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 3: know how can they get into your life? And now 163 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,239 Speaker 3: these dudes are really good at like playing the long 164 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 3: game because they'll like be cool and friendly and in 165 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 3: like six months and they be like, you know, I 166 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 3: was thinking about writing a TV show you like right now? 167 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 3: Like you Oh no, dang. 168 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: Do they feel like I want to help him? 169 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 3: Oh no, I don't help man. I'll help men. Those 170 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 3: days are over. I'll help men. I don't defend men. 171 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't vouch for men. I don't speak 172 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 3: on their behalf. I don't. I can't. I can't. I 173 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 3: don't like not even my brother. I'm like, I don't 174 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 3: know what he did over there. I can't speak for 175 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 3: what I know. But I can't. I'm not getting on 176 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 3: no what to stand from. No man. Ever, I can't 177 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 3: do it. I just can't because they they be doing 178 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 3: too much. Yes they do, And you'll be all here 179 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 3: being just like he's a good man, and then they'd 180 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 3: be like, well, here's a video on him, and he'd 181 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 3: be like, damn, now, I gotta now look crazy. 182 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's interesting. 183 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: We have this segment up here called tell us a Secret. 184 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: Right people calling and anonymously just tell us a secret. 185 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: We don't judge them, and people get so mad like 186 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: about what. First of all, they think the biggest insult 187 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: is to say that I'm a feminist. They'll be like, 188 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: I can't stand she's a feminist. 189 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: Got it? 190 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: Yes, why wouldn't I be a feminist? 191 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 3: Yes? Yeah, isn't that. 192 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: Like a natural thing to want to be equal exactly 193 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: and get compensated and. 194 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 4: Support with other women. 195 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we should all be feminists. 196 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: And not be barefoot in prenant in the kitchen because 197 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 3: I can't read a book. Yeah. 198 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: But in particular, they were very angry about this one 199 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: where this woman called in and her husband cheated on 200 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 2: her like three times, and then she went and slept 201 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: at twenty people in like four or five months. 202 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 3: M Okay, Okay. 203 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: She said it was parties and stuff and she feels 204 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: a lot better now. 205 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 3: Oh so she went to like sex parties. Yeah, yeah, 206 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: all right, So okay, so I understand the sex party lifestyle, right. 207 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 4: That's an LA thing too. 208 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: Well, it's everywhere, I mean, especially the ground thing, because 209 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: I don't know, I've never been to a set. 210 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: I I've never even been invited to a sex. 211 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 4: I've never been invited either. I kind of feel left out, 212 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 4: but continued, Okay, invited, Oh yeah I have yeah. 213 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 3: No I'm not no, no, no, not in Hollywood, but 214 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 3: in here not saying in New York. Yeah, yeah, I've 215 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 3: gone to New York. I haven't gone in LA. But 216 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 3: I say this because one of my dear my best friend, 217 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: is a dominatrix, so she's been in the lifestyle. So 218 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 3: through her, I've seen things and I'm aware of things. 219 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 3: You learned a lot. So twenty got twenty people, and 220 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 3: the sex swing lifestyle makes sense because that could be 221 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 3: like two nights, that's two parties. 222 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: They could have been too orgy. 223 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 3: Versus twenty people on a day to day basis, like 224 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: you yeah, like you breakfast, lunch, and dinner. That's excessive. 225 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 3: But if it's a party, I kind of understand that. 226 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: Right. 227 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: People were so angry if you got to see it, 228 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 2: there's like that's the comments they said, I'm like satan 229 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 2: for I'm like, okay. 230 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 3: Listen, people are so sexually repressed. And that's the problem 231 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 3: that we have countries that be getting it in. They 232 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 3: are fun, they don't go to war, they don't have 233 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 3: nobody trying to overthrow the government. They get in answerdam 234 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: is chilling whenever somebody come to say stop having sex, 235 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 3: the fun is over and the you're about to have 236 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 3: a civil war. Guarantee every time. 237 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: That's but what about when they try to have you 238 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 2: withhold from sex in order to stop the violence? 239 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 3: Who what is that? 240 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: What is that called? Again? 241 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: When they do that, when they're no, when they're like 242 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: all the women nobody's having Oh. 243 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, like in that play that they did a long 244 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 3: time ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then Spike Lee did 245 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 3: the remix. So yeah, no, that don't work. That don't 246 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 3: work because there's always gonna be one hole that's like me, 247 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 3: me and wreck. There's always one girl. 248 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 2: That's like, I got something for you doing it anyways, 249 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: another one will Yeah, just like when the union goes 250 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: on strike and they're like, we're just bringing some new 251 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 2: workers union. 252 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 3: Ye. 253 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 2: Now, let's talk about girls trips for real, because that's 254 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: on the first episode of fleut Out. 255 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: All right, So do you remember your first girls trip? 256 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely? Yeah, it was. It was cheap because we didn't 257 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 3: have a lot of money. It's always like that. Yeah. 258 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 3: We took a bus to Atlantic City and we had 259 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 3: a time, and we had a time. 260 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: But your dominated's best friend with you. 261 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 3: No, no, this is a different group of friends. But 262 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 3: a guy that I knew he was a stripper. So 263 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 3: we went to like the strip party and then that 264 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 3: was a whole time. 265 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: Okay, that's a fun Some people think, I feel like 266 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 2: women feel like that's not fun. You know how guys 267 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 2: love going to strip clubs and we do too to 268 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: go see women. But for some reason they think like 269 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 2: male strippers aren't fun. And I've actually hosted a couple 270 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: and had so much fun at them. 271 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, first of all, they're real showmen. It's like 272 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: it's actually low key. Well, now women's trippers are more 273 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 3: athletic because like back in the day they were just 274 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 3: like doing a little Now they're doing like Olympics gymnastics. 275 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's snack packed. 276 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I mean I think, honestly stripping should be 277 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 3: an Olympics. I think it's it is. 278 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: Do they have it but men? 279 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: Because I said the guys were like sitting there dicks 280 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: on fire. Yeah, and they were lifting like a huge 281 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: women up. 282 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: Huge massive. Yeah. 283 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm over. 284 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 3: The first strip show I went to this is It 285 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 3: used to be like underground in the Bronx, and you 286 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 3: would it was always some random place and he would 287 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 3: sell a ticket and you would just go there. And 288 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 3: I remember this guy made a sandwich with his dick 289 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: he had a hero. He had a hero bread. He 290 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 3: put the hot He had a girl. He bought a 291 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 3: woman on stage. She held her hand out. He put 292 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 3: the harrow bread in her in her hand, he put 293 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 3: the cheese, the lettuce, tomatoes, and then he put his 294 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 3: right in there. 295 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 4: And then what is the part of that? 296 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 3: We were seeing it to be like, this is gonna 297 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 3: be a good ass sandwich. 298 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 4: He was. 299 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 3: She was just holding his hands and and then he 300 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 3: put his dick in and then he was like you 301 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 3: gonna take a bite and she was sorry, And you know. 302 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: Now is it okay? And go live on Instagram? 303 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 3: No, you can't know you can't. We later rules down. 304 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 3: You cannot go live on anything on a girl's night, 305 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 3: girls shook anything. No live, you gotta take video and 306 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 3: then get approval from all parties presents, because I feel 307 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 3: like if you go on live, you are out. You're 308 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 3: trying to You're trying to destroy my life or something. 309 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 3: You don't like me. If you won't lie, you don't 310 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 3: like me. 311 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: And people be like who I remember I went live 312 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 2: when I was in Where were we We were at 313 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: a casino somewhere. 314 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: I did not know this was going to happen. 315 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: One of my friends was drunk and she started talking 316 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: crazy about her job. 317 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: I turned it right off. I was like, my job. 318 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: You just see that finger camera, Like, oh, I know, 319 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 2: I know who you're talking about, okay, And I was like, 320 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 2: let me delete this and make sure this doesn't go 321 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 2: up anywhere. 322 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 3: She started talking crazy. Yeah, but you gotta be careful 323 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 3: because the thing is people will record your live and 324 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 3: so now it's there in perpetuity and you can't do 325 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 3: anything to get rid of it. And it's like, I 326 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 3: understand what we make mistakes and you accidentally like butt 327 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 3: down somebody, but like people are looking for you to 328 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: mess up so that they can hold it over your head. 329 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, gotta be careful. But I was thinking about that too, 330 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 2: And it's also can we have some fun and live 331 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: in a moment anymore? 332 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm all for it. I went to see Usher 333 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 3: in Vegas and I was kind of annoyed because everybody 334 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 3: was on their phone, and it's like, sometimes you gotta 335 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 3: understand you've got to get people energy so they can 336 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 3: feed off of that. And I think because we've been 337 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 3: in the house for three years that people forget that 338 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 3: you need like live human interaction to like power through 339 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 3: sometimes and I wish we would put the phones. I 340 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 3: wish we would put the phone sound. 341 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 2: How do you feel like your show's doing stand up 342 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: when people have their phones? 343 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: Y'at? Do you have a no phone's rules? Do you 344 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:28,239 Speaker 1: make that announcement? 345 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 3: Well, I'm here in New York for the week, so 346 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 3: I've been at the Comedy Cell all week and they 347 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 3: have an ironclad no phone. So they take your phone, 348 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 3: they put it in like a little ziplock bag, and 349 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 3: they lock it up so you can't get it. And 350 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 3: I think that is so freeing, not only for me 351 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 3: before the audience, cause you get to be present and 352 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 3: you don't have to worry about somebody texting you, calling you, 353 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 3: what's going on in the internet, like just be in 354 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 3: the moment. And also allows me the creativity to like 355 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 3: work through stuff because I'm just working on new material 356 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 3: and now I don't want to worry about you posting 357 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 3: it when it's not ready and people judge me by 358 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 3: something that could have been like an ad lib off 359 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 3: the top of my head. And so I think we 360 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 3: need to like really be more mindful of like this 361 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 3: is art, this is work. People are not ready to 362 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 3: be on camera all the time. You gotta be mindful of. 363 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 2: That because as you're working through things, there's gonna be 364 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: times that you say the wrong thing. 365 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: Absolutely to get canceled. 366 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 3: Absolutely don't want I'm barey here. I don't want you 367 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 3: to cancel. 368 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: Yet I feel like that you still feel like you're 369 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: barely here. 370 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 3: I feel I do feel like that. Well, this is 371 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 3: my third career, Like, I've done so many different things. 372 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: I know you from being a writer. 373 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was a journalist. I was an editor of. 374 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: Vibe journalist side, not just a writer. 375 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 3: That's just because there's a difference. There's a difference. But yeah, 376 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 3: I was a journalist. I was an editor. I was 377 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 3: at Vibe, I was at the Source magazine. I was 378 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 3: right at the Village Voice, and then from there I 379 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 3: just decided to go into comedy. I did that for 380 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 3: ten years, and then I wrote a book at Your Diet, 381 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 3: and then a pandemic happened and everything shut down, And 382 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 3: in that time I used all the things I had 383 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 3: learned up until that point, and that got me into 384 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 3: TV writing and producing that I moved to La. So 385 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 3: like I feel like I'm constantly going like up a 386 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 3: hill and down a hill and trying to figure out 387 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 3: like new things about myself, and so oh, I'm introducing 388 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 3: myself to new people now, Like people in Hollywood don't 389 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 3: know the journalists to me or the comedian and me 390 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 3: they know the writer. And so I'm always thinking I 391 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 3: never take for granted that people know me. 392 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: I always I did the same thing. 393 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 3: I always introduce myself. I never feel like I never 394 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 3: be like, you know who I am, because I'm like, no, 395 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 3: they might not, so. 396 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 2: And I feel like all those things are related though. 397 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: With your career, yeah, you know, being a journalist and 398 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: going into being a comedian, then going into writing for television, 399 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: and you also had your podcast and your streaming show 400 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: that you did as well, and so for you being 401 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: an introvert, right, how was that for you during the pandemic? 402 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 3: Well, I mean the great thing about the pandemic for 403 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 3: me was like I got to work from home. I 404 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 3: didn't have to leave my house. So I love that. 405 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 3: And also technology allowed me to still do all those 406 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: things from my dining room table at the time and 407 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 3: still making money and still making money and still writing 408 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 3: on shows and am I Oh, I love it. I 409 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 3: love it. I mean I didn't put on hard pants 410 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 3: for like three years. 411 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I love except for you going back out though. 412 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 3: You know, I think going back out was interesting because 413 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 3: you see how how deprived people were for like human interaction, 414 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 3: and so I found myself being even more outgoing than 415 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 3: I normally would be. So I'm actually probably a little 416 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 3: bit less of an introvert and I know how to 417 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 3: turn it on more and I know how to appreciate 418 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 3: human interaction because being in the house for like ever 419 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 3: and ever, it changes your perspective for sure. 420 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: Now, you did write the book if your Diet. 421 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: I had you on for that, and so I want 422 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: to talk to you about that too, just because we've 423 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 2: seen now a lot of people were in pursuit of 424 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 2: the perfect body, and what the perfect body is seems 425 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: like it's always changing. So now people are getting rid 426 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: of their bbls, they're getting rid of fillers, they're getting 427 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 2: rid of certain things that they've had done because they're like, Okay, 428 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: this is a different type of like for whatever reason 429 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 2: that they might have. Like, we had Black China up 430 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 2: here aka Angela, it's her name, and she discussed that 431 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 2: journey that she's been having. So what about what do 432 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: you think about just this whole like, all right, there 433 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: was this whole craze and then now it seems like 434 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: it's scaling back. And I've seen doctor saying the most 435 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: requested thing that they're getting now from plastics vigens is 436 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 2: to get the reverse. 437 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think we pushed it too far right, 438 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 3: and I think you you're looking at these people who 439 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 3: essentially were achieving a black woman's physique but on steroids, 440 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 3: and now you already have the blueprint of a black 441 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 3: woman physique because you are a black woman, and now 442 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 3: you getting the interpretation of a white woman getting a 443 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 3: black woman's body. And so now you gotta scale it 444 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 3: back because it's like it's too much. And also the 445 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 3: upkeep is crazy, Like if you don't have the upkeep, 446 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 3: you if you never worked out. Now you gotta tell 447 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 3: me tu and a BBL that it's going to your ankles. Baby, 448 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 3: you're about to be clapping with your thighs, like you know, 449 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 3: it's a lot to take on. And I think you know, 450 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 3: once we educate ourselves and we understand like what the 451 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 3: body really naturally can do and what is realistic for 452 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 3: your shape, then you can I'm all for plastic surgery. 453 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 3: I'm all forgetting what you want, but it's like tweaks now, 454 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 3: I'm not into like doing something that is not you're 455 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 3: not able to keep up and nobody knows safely, Yeah, 456 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 3: because nobody knows what the ass is going to end. 457 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 3: Nobody knows where's it gonna settle. 458 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 2: When you eighty five plastic surgery surgeon, a real doctor. 459 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 2: There is somebody certified to do these things. Get referrals, 460 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: make sure you check them out. 461 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 3: Can't afford it, then don't get it. Don't get the 462 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 3: best thing. 463 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:12,479 Speaker 4: A lot. That's a lot of women, not a lot. 464 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 4: I mean there's some women that really want this body, 465 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 4: but they can't afford it, so they go places that 466 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 4: aren't necessarily safe. 467 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's and we see what happens, right, and 468 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 3: you know you have like medical tourism is a big thing, 469 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 3: but like these people like this. If your doctors on 470 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 3: Instagram doing lives with somebody on the table, do not 471 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 3: go to that person if they rapping about your Yeah, 472 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 3: don't don't don't. 473 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: Oh do you do you write the songs on there? 474 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: You collaborate? 475 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 3: Now, listen, I musicality is not my fingite is that's 476 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 3: not that no, no, I listen. They will tell you. 477 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 3: The writers will tell you whenever I try to, like Chloe, 478 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 3: stop please, this is not it. Hard jokes, scenarios. I 479 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 3: got you, but a hot sixteen is coming. 480 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: You do like some nerd because Jasmine does nerd rap? 481 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 4: What she's so insulting? 482 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 2: I felt the bus and I turned to see if 483 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 2: it was okay. 484 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 4: BT had us do this cipher thing. But it was 485 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 4: people that didn't wrap. So everybody sounded not the best. 486 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: Some people were good. 487 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 4: I wasn't good. 488 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 3: Wow, wow wow wow, and your friends. 489 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 4: I can't tell Angela called it nerd rap. 490 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, nerd rap, just the bars. 491 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 4: No, I will not anyway. It's so bad that Angela 492 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 4: has it. It's part of a drop when yeah. 493 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: Wow, I'm not just that brand on my own brand, 494 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: just you know. 495 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, listen. 496 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 4: Ahead, girl, because I had a writer. 497 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, but yeah. 498 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 2: So all I'm saying is because I know you're a 499 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 2: self proclaimed nerd, am I yeah, I have no problem 500 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 2: with that. 501 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 3: Wrapping, ain't it. Wrapping has never been in for me either. No, 502 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 3: it's never been. It's never been my thing at all. 503 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 3: My dream growing up was to be a hook girl. 504 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 3: I wanted to be the girl in the back, like 505 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 3: the anonymous score that never got feature credit. I wanted 506 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 3: to be that in our background. That was my thing. 507 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not mad. 508 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 2: So what are you most proud of when it comes 509 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: to I want to go through different parts of your 510 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 2: career as a journalist, right, what are you most proud 511 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 2: of when you were a journalist? 512 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 3: Still are always yeah, I mean, it's always a part 513 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 3: of my heart. But you know, honestly, I am truly 514 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 3: grateful that I got to experience, and I know you 515 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 3: did to like the height of hip hop journalism, like 516 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 3: when people were really like breaking stories, when black artists 517 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 3: had to go to black media to get their story told, 518 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 3: Like when we were spotlighting artists that mainstream didn't care about. 519 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 3: Like before you know, we had all these covers with 520 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 3: these hip hop artists on Vogue and all that stuff, 521 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 3: Like they really truly came to the source, They came 522 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 3: to Vibe because we told this story and we knew them, 523 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 3: we were invested in their growth. So I'm glad that 524 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 3: I was a part of that experience before the blog 525 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 3: is fhere and the internet and social media took over, 526 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 3: and then I'm also really proud of the fact that 527 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 3: I was a writer at the Village Voice where I 528 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 3: was able to tell those stories at this you know, 529 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 3: prominent newspaper, and I had a lot of great cover 530 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 3: stories that I was showcasing Black culture to the masses, 531 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 3: because it was very important for me to tell my 532 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 3: people well stories and to show who we are outside 533 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,239 Speaker 3: of just like you know, a little blurb or a 534 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 3: headline or a police blotder like, it was very important 535 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 3: for me to. 536 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 2: Show It was always exciting to see a story about 537 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 2: us in the Village Voice too, and to make sure 538 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 2: that it was written by us as well. So what 539 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: was What would you say, is your biggest story that 540 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 2: you ever had back then? 541 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 3: So I would say the biggest story I had. Okay, 542 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say two stories at the Village Voice. One 543 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 3: was a story called Girls to Men, where I chronicle 544 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 3: the lgbtwos LGBTQ subculture of black gay girls, and it 545 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 3: came from the story of a teenager. I'll never forget 546 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 3: this young woman. Her name is Shaquiah Gunn, and she 547 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 3: was senselessly murdered. She was walking with her girlfriend in 548 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 3: Penstation in Jersey and a man approached them and try 549 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 3: to flirt with them, and he was she was like, no, 550 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 3: I'm good and he killed her, stabbed and killed her. 551 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 3: And I always kept thinking, like, why is that the action? 552 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 3: Why is that the reaction? And then it got me 553 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 3: interested in like the subculture of like young, you know, 554 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 3: hip hop butch girls who were like, you know masks, 555 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 3: you know, before all the words that we have now. 556 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 3: It was this identity that nobody really understood or respected, 557 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 3: and I submerged myself in the culture and I followed 558 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 3: like this group of folks and got to see like 559 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 3: their version of the ballroom culture, which was, you know, 560 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 3: a very different than voguing culture, but their idea of 561 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 3: their community. And that was my first cover story for 562 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 3: The Village Boys, called Girl Simen. I did not like 563 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 3: the cover title. I like, I did not like the 564 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 3: cover title, but I didn't have any saying that yeah 565 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 3: I mean it, yeah, I mean this is a long 566 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 3: this is over a decade ago. So he that. But 567 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: that story called so much conversation because it was really 568 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 3: this group of young women who were I didn't who 569 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 3: were trying to solidify their identity, who didn't feel like 570 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 3: they were part of the larger gay culture because you know, 571 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 3: they weren't white, they weren't rich, they were poor, they 572 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 3: were black, they were women. And I remember one day 573 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 3: after the story came out, like they ended up having 574 00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 3: like town hall meetings because they wanted to know if 575 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 3: I was black. They was like, who the hell is 576 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 3: Chloe Hiller? Black? Gally sound black? Shout out to my mom, 577 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 3: who was like, I want to make sure you get 578 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 3: a job. This is your name. And then I remember 579 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 3: one day I was walking and my phone rang and 580 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 3: I answered it and it was like, Hi, this is Glad, 581 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 3: and we just wanted to talk to you about like 582 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 3: the article you wrote, because they wanted to make sure 583 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 3: that my intentions were pure and I wasn't trying to 584 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 3: like objectify or or make these this already group that 585 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,959 Speaker 3: was vulnerable even more vulnerable. And so I was like, no, no, 586 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 3: I'm black. One, I'm black, and I'm from New York 587 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 3: and I know this community and I wanted to tell 588 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 3: their story and they were like, okay, we just wanted 589 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 3: to check because they. 590 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: Was like, okay, I appreciate that. 591 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do appreciate that too, because you know, it's 592 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 3: a these are people's lives that you know, you're telling 593 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 3: like they welcome you into their home, they tell you 594 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,959 Speaker 3: their trials and tribulations, and I want to give them 595 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 3: a voice. And I think even as a writer and 596 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 3: producer now, like I still want to give voice to 597 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 3: the voiceless. And I think it's very important for us 598 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 3: to have people who come from my walks of life 599 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 3: who can create shows and television series and you know, 600 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 3: limited all of that, limited theories, movies, everything that really 601 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 3: showcase our range of life experiences. So I would say 602 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 3: that one was definitely one that really like hit me 603 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 3: in the chest, bea I'm like, okay, I see the 604 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 3: power of my words. And then also I did the 605 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 3: Remy My cover when on The Village Boys, and I 606 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 3: covered her leading up to the trial before she went 607 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 3: away to prison, and so I got to really see 608 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 3: her and show who she was, and I felt like 609 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 3: that was important because you know, at the time, everybody 610 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 3: was like Remy Ma, and she's a criminal on this 611 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 3: and this and that. But I got to see the mother, 612 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 3: I got to see the wife, I got to see 613 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 3: the young girl who told me her life story. And 614 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 3: I felt like if I wasn't in a position to 615 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 3: do that, I don't know if anybody would have been 616 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 3: in episode. 617 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: Right, especially with their care Yeah, were able to take 618 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: with that. Okay, So that's journalism, Chloe. Now when it 619 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 2: comes to comedian, Chloe, what are you most proud of? 620 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 3: I am definitely most proud of. I'm most proud of 621 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 3: my last comic standing in my Tonight Show. I would 622 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 3: say those two things were how lights for me last 623 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 3: comic stand and I did that three years in so 624 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 3: I was a baby in comedy. Into place in the 625 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 3: top twenty five of a comedy competition was great for 626 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 3: me in my career. And then the Tonight Show. When 627 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 3: I got a chance to do the Tonight Show, it 628 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 3: felt like here I am on this platform where so 629 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 3: many amazing comedians got to perform, and I did my set, 630 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 3: and I was very proud of myself. I truly was, 631 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 3: because I never that wasn't my goal. Like when I 632 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 3: got in a comedy, it wasn't to be on a 633 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 3: Tonight Show. It was like it was to be on TV. 634 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 3: It was to be a talking head, to be a host, 635 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 3: like being a journalist. I wanted to like flex the 636 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 3: comedy muscle so that I could be off the top 637 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 3: when I'm interviewing people and being like, you know, sarcastic 638 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 3: and funny and witty, and it just stuck and I 639 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 3: just kept. 640 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: What do you think your sense of humor comes from? 641 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: Because sometimes for people I remember, like Danna Rowlings will 642 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: tell you it's from him, like when he was in 643 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: the army. I know, certain people will say, well, this 644 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 2: is what made me funny. I used my humor, as 645 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 2: you know, a way to protect myself. But for you, 646 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 2: where did your sin? 647 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 3: If you? 648 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 4: Oh? 649 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 3: I was bullied tremendously. I had no friends. I was 650 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 3: a social misfit. I was the tallest kid. I was 651 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 3: the youngest kid, like all my life. So I'm six one. 652 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 3: I've been this tight since I was twelve. Like so 653 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 3: I was. I never fit in. I grew up in 654 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 3: a Hasitic Jewish neighborhood in Brooklyn, and everybody else was 655 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 3: like in Crown Heights, Clinton Hill, and I just didn't. 656 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 3: I never connected. I was in a church all the time, 657 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 3: like I had. I was a kid that knew nothing 658 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 3: like I had no idea who the top artist was. 659 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 3: I remember one day after school, elementary school, somebody was like, 660 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 3: do you what do you listen to this radio station? 661 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 3: The district. I was like, I never heard any of 662 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 3: one of these, Like I listened to Algerau because my 663 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 3: mom be playing Algirou, Like yeah, but I was like 664 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 3: I knew nothing. I had no street cred, nothing nothing, 665 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 3: and I had no big cousins to beat nobody up. 666 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 3: So I just it was just me out in the world. 667 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 3: And so because of that, it was a defense mechanism 668 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 3: to just not care. So it was nothing that you 669 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 3: could say or bully me about that would get me 670 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 3: because I could say something way worse about you all 671 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 3: myself and then just like kind of stuck. And so 672 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 3: it was like my my armor that just got me 673 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 3: through a lot of like hard times. And then as 674 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 3: I got older, it just made me observe things because 675 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 3: when you aren't in the scene, when you aren't in 676 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 3: the popular group, you get to see everything. And so 677 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 3: I got to see and learn people, and that think 678 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 3: helped me a lot as a journalist as a comedian 679 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 3: because I can pick up on things and energy and 680 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 3: people and really like break people down and like understand 681 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 3: how people make the moves that they make. And so 682 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 3: for me, it just lends itself to stand up because 683 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 3: I can articulate and make a color scene and like 684 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 3: really pick up nuances that folks don't see. So I'm 685 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 3: always seeing and absorbance of and it helps me a lot. 686 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 4: So the bullying was helpful. 687 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 3: I want to think, I want to thank my bullies. 688 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 3: They're gonna camera. I want to sake my bullies because 689 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 3: they truly did help me. Like, and I had this 690 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 3: conversation because I did not realize like how much it 691 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,479 Speaker 3: impacted me, because it made me so independent and it 692 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 3: made me not care what anybody thinks. So to this day, 693 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 3: I don't care what anybody has to say about my creativity, 694 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 3: my work, my book, me and my family nothing, because 695 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 3: I know who I am, and I know in my 696 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 3: heart that I'm a good person, and I know well 697 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 3: that I want to do things for people. I want 698 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 3: to help other people too. So if you don't like me, 699 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 3: that's a you problem, that's not me problem. 700 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 2: And before the show started, we were also talking back 701 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 2: to your father. Yeah, being in prison from when you 702 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 2: were four until nine, So how do you think that 703 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 2: affected you? 704 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 3: Oh? I mean that definitely made me really independent. You know, 705 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 3: my mom and I was the only child at the time. 706 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 3: My mom and I really held on to each other 707 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 3: and we made sure that we took care of each other. 708 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 3: And that made me a person that became a protector, 709 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 3: and I think that's still a part of who I am. 710 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 3: I always look out for people. I always look to 711 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 3: see who needs help, who feels weak, who needs to 712 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 3: be you know, poured into I'm always big on like 713 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 3: letting people know that they have value and that they're special. 714 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 3: And I think I did that for my mom, and 715 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 3: my mom did that for me because it was a 716 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 3: hard time my family. You know, my parents are still 717 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 3: married to this day, and you know they were newly wes, 718 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 3: not newly was, but they were young when they got married, 719 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 3: and so it was us. It was just the three 720 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,959 Speaker 3: of us. And so when my dad went to prison, 721 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 3: it pulled that family structure away. And I still knew 722 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 3: that my dad was there, so I didn't feel like 723 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 3: I was abandoned. But it was a trust system. Not 724 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 3: only the trust system, like the system, but like being 725 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 3: aware of what the system is at four or five 726 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 3: years old, like traveling to prison and being like why 727 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 3: there's so many bars, Like why can't he go to 728 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 3: the vendor machine? Like why can't I sit on his lap? 729 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 3: Like it's so many things that you become aware of 730 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 3: as a kid that I think most people don't understand 731 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 3: that it doesn't pack for you because when you try 732 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 3: to have deep, meaningful relationships, it's always in the back 733 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 3: of your mind, like trust is just going to be 734 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 3: taking away, pulled away from me. How much can I 735 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 3: like confide in this person? And will they be here tomorrow? 736 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 3: And so you know, I gotta I gotta give a 737 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 3: shout out to therapy because it definitely helps. It definitely 738 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 3: helps when you get to like dig down to the 739 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 3: root of like the triggers in your life. So I'm 740 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 3: grateful that I was able to kind of like heal 741 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 3: those wounds. 742 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: And I also wanted to. Jazz's been going to therapy. 743 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 2: I've been talking about doing it. 744 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 3: You have an angela angela need you never You've never 745 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 3: been You've never been to therapy. 746 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: No, but I'm going to. I'm scheduling it. 747 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 3: Let's get a date. Let's get a date, Let's get 748 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 3: a dat. Help. Wait, I wonder know what's your apprehension 749 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 3: about therapy. 750 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: There's no apprehension. I just haven't done it. 751 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with it at all, you know, 752 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 2: I just I just feel like it's not like something happened. 753 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what, I gotta go deal with this. 754 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: There's I think I talk to people a lot, so 755 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 2: I'm not really I'm not an introvert. I'm more of 756 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 2: an extrovert, and so I do have like a great 757 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 2: group of people who whenever things happen. I've never felt 758 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 2: like I don't have anyone, you know, to speak to. 759 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,479 Speaker 2: So it's never been something that it's been pressing me, 760 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 2: like I need to make sure I take this, I've 761 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 2: dealt with this, laws or whatever. And there are things 762 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 2: I'm sure I don't even I'm not even aware of. 763 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's that's the thing. That Yeah, that's 764 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 3: the thing. It's like what is the like what's the 765 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 3: seed of a tree? You know, like what is the 766 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 3: root of the cause of the thing that makes you 767 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 3: interact with people the way that you do. And I 768 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 3: think we tend to think we know what the problem is. 769 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 3: And I thought for a long time I knew what 770 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 3: the problem was, right, or the issue was. But then 771 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 3: when you really do the work and you're like, oh, 772 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 3: it's much deeper than I even thought. Yeah, because some. 773 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: People I look and i'd be like, yeah, let's. 774 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 3: Set this up. 775 00:30:59,400 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 4: That's a pack. 776 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 777 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. And I know it's interesting because I mean I 778 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 3: talk about therapy with my friend, especially my black male friends, 779 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 3: and they're like, Noah, I'm good. I'm like, no, you 780 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 3: need to talk about it. If you are a person 781 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 3: of color in America, you need to go to. 782 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: Every person of color in America. Absolutely. 783 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. This is a we live in a hostile environment. 784 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 3: Everywhere you go. You have to take into consideration so 785 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 3: many things that are not connected to you as an individual, 786 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 3: but connected to you as who you are as a 787 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 3: person because of your race. And so that's a lot 788 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 3: of way to carry And. 789 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of people come to me 790 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: for help too. Yeah you got to think that, Like 791 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 2: a lot of my friends will come to me. I'd 792 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 2: be like, all right, but and I don't mind doing that. 793 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 2: But I don't really call anybody like if I I 794 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 2: just am always in conversation. 795 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I always say who is pouring into you? All right? 796 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 2: Look, I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna let you know 797 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 2: how it goes. Now, another thing I want to ask you, 798 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 2: I already know the answer. 799 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: This. Are you glad that you never went to freaking Nick. 800 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I missed it. I just missed it. I 801 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 3: mean I used to hear about it. I just miss that. 802 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 3: I'm so glad. I'm so glad. 803 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 2: I'm thinking about all these women who are now very concerned. 804 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 3: First of all, why are you yourself, Mama, that's twenty 805 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 3: plus years ago. You can act like it's not you. 806 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 2: Because you think there's a group of people they're not 807 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 2: identifying themselves. It's like a politician. There's some women who 808 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 2: are very nervous. But can I just put you in 809 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 2: this documentary without your consent? 810 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 3: Probably? Yeah, because I mean it's it's they've shot it 811 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 3: in public. So if you're if you're a shot in 812 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 3: the street in. 813 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 4: The public domain, usually when you're shooting in the sea, 814 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 4: there's street or out public. It's usually there are signing quarters. 815 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 4: I know what I'm saying. You have to you have 816 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 4: to provide consents, some type of awareness you do. 817 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,479 Speaker 3: No, I think it's I think it's not. I'm not. 818 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 3: I can't. I mean, I can't, I don't. I can't 819 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 3: quote this directly, but I believe it's like when you 820 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 3: go into a facility, when you go into a venue, 821 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 3: a private venue, then you have to say, this thing 822 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 3: is being recorded, but if you're out in the street, 823 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 3: it's public domain. 824 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 4: When you are outside in New York, you've never seen 825 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 4: signs that filming is going on and stuff like that. 826 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 2: But they done what you to walk into it. Yeah, 827 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 2: that's why they do it more I think. 828 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and they're gonna block the street so 829 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 3: you can't go in there anywhere places listen. I don't 830 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 3: know why you snitch on yourself because it's somebody like me. Yes, yeah, 831 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 3: they'd be like I saw you topless on the top 832 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 3: of Misubishi. I'm like, it wasn't me, not mine. They 833 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 3: don't look like that. 834 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: They like your homegirl, your sister, that's not you know. 835 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 3: And also we don't know what's gonna be in there, 836 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 3: so like nobody knows what the actual like storyline is, 837 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 3: Like are they talking about the celebration of black excellence 838 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 3: that got a little raunchy or they talking about like 839 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 3: straight predator energy like either way. 840 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 4: So I want men to be concerned. 841 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: Yeah they should be. 842 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, all of us we're always like. 843 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 2: But I feel like people don't look at men the 844 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 2: way that they look at women. Like when we do it, 845 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 2: it's so much. 846 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 4: Well, and we judge ourselves more harsh too. 847 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. But also the fact that it's like there 848 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 3: was a lot of bad stuff that was happening in 849 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 3: freaking and I already see that that never made me 850 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 3: want yeah yeah, Like I'm like, y'all, so y'all really 851 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 3: got twenty dudes ripping a woman's clothes off, and y'all 852 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,719 Speaker 3: think this is a party and that's and then to 853 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 3: see people who were not even alive when freaking was 854 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 3: happening to be like here they are trying to take 855 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 3: down black man. It's like, nah, it says he was 856 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,919 Speaker 3: ripping off her bikini top. 857 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 2: Because I always hear guys say, oh, everybody was acting 858 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 2: like this back then, or this is what was acceptable 859 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 2: back then. But I don't ever look at that as too, 860 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 2: because I definitely know men who would never have done 861 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 2: certain things that are like no, that is, I would 862 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 2: be shocked if I saw them, because everybody didn't do that. No, 863 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 2: you still know when something is wrong. 864 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, not to walk past a woman and 865 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 3: stick your butt next to hers, you know, right like 866 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 3: you just like you human decency, you know what not 867 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 3: to do. So if you're doing it and got caught 868 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 3: on camera. Then you gotta live with that because I'm 869 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 3: gonna watch it together. 870 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 2: Watch you know, I'm a nerd. I would say, thank 871 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 2: god they didn't make a pen relays. 872 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 3: But you know what's to be crazy because you know, 873 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 3: you can like take a picture if you stop it. 874 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm probably gonna get a lot more 875 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 3: people in trouble. If you pause it and you take 876 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 3: a picture and do a Google image search, you can 877 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 3: probably find the people. 878 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can remember the radicle you're looking at where 879 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 4: you can find your own your image, ye, and. 880 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: Your own images anything that you've ever done. 881 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: Well, listen, Chloe, I want to make sure we got 882 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 2: touched on everything that you wanted to Because a Black 883 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 2: Ladies Sketch Show. 884 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 3: Is back, Yes, season four. Watch it HBO streaming on 885 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 3: Hbo Max. 886 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 2: That's how I watch everything streaming for me Hbo, which 887 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 2: is soon going to be only Max. Yes, right, and 888 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 2: then writer's strike give us something into that. 889 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 3: So okay, So if you love television, then you need 890 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 3: to be aware about the writer's strike. The WGA is 891 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,919 Speaker 3: in negotiations right now. May first is the cutoff point. 892 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 3: We may go on strike if they don't hash out everything, 893 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,720 Speaker 3: But the main things that writers are talking about basically 894 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 3: is residual. So you remember back in the day when 895 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 3: a sitcom made one hundred episodes and then it went 896 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 3: sold into syndication and you would see it now like 897 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 3: four o'clock on a Tuesday on like Channel nine or whatever. 898 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 3: And so now we don't really have that opportunity to 899 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 3: make extra money after the inde airing of a show 900 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 3: because all these companies have their own streamers, so they 901 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 3: just give the show to their own free streamer. So 902 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,919 Speaker 3: that cuts out a check that can help somebody live 903 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 3: comfortably for the rest of their lives. 904 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't realize. 905 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's one thing with streaming has definitely impacted 906 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 3: the residual, which impacts our pay also, just like the 907 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 3: basic rate increasing over the years with inflation and everything, 908 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 3: we want like a boost with our basic rate. And 909 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 3: then also AI AI is something that we really have 910 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 3: to address. Yeah, and so you know, the last time 911 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 3: we negotiated a contract on the WJA and the negotiated 912 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 3: a contract was fifteen years ago and that strack lasted 913 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 3: seven months. That's when you got a bunch of reality 914 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 3: TV stuff. 915 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, remember that a lot of the shows that you 916 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 2: were watching just mid season, yump, yump. 917 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 4: How does the AI situation affect writers? 918 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 3: So basically we have to go on now preemptively knowing 919 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 3: that technology is growing by the minute, and say we 920 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 3: want to make sure that you're not going to have 921 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 3: AI writing these shows or even have AI in the 922 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 3: position to contribute, and then you just have like a 923 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 3: personal to checking to make sure that the. 924 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: AI advice overs. 925 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you're sure. 926 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 4: I can see how it can affect talent. I was 927 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 4: just wanting in terms of writing, like at some point 928 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 4: that's something that we think AI will be able. 929 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely. I mean you think about it. It's not 930 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 3: just a problem. Like I know some people be like, oh, 931 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 3: what's the point of a union? Unions are very important. 932 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 3: They're very helpful. I mean I wish more people understood. 933 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 3: When I was at the Village Voice, we had a 934 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:20,720 Speaker 3: union and it saved my life. 935 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: We have to be in the union. 936 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 3: Unions aren't important. Like it's like, do you trust your 937 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 3: manager who gives you shitty hours to have your back 938 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 3: when it's time to get an increase on your pay? 939 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 3: Like no, Like they are with the bosses who want 940 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 3: to make as much profit as possible. So you need 941 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 3: people to advocate on behalf of the worker and the 942 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 3: union conversation applies to everything because every major corporation, because 943 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 3: of the pandemic and this recession, want to make as 944 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 3: much money as possible. So if that means I get 945 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 3: to hire two live human beings and a computer to 946 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 3: make twenty two episodes of TV, they will try and 947 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 3: do that. 948 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 1: Right. 949 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 2: We just what pass the McDonald's that's completely computerized. 950 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? 951 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 2: You so they shut down like all the McDonald's to 952 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 2: redo everything, and. 953 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I mean technology is great and a definitely 954 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 3: has disadvantages, but we have to make sure that we 955 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 3: honor and respect the human beings that create the things 956 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 3: that allow us to have the entertainment and fun that 957 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 3: we have. 958 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 2: Like, let's I would love to talk to the human 959 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 2: It's really hard, but you need some help, you representative. 960 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 4: What can't brag on people do to help in terms 961 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 4: of this potential SAT strike. 962 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,919 Speaker 3: I think honestly, it's like voice your opinion, talk about 963 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 3: it like you know, talk about in social media. I 964 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 3: know you may not be in the union, but like 965 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 3: be aware of what's happening. So when things go left, 966 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 3: like let your you know you're providing your streamer. Know, 967 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 3: like we want quality TV, we want quality programming. We 968 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 3: want to support the people who make these shows and 969 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,399 Speaker 3: also watch and support the shows. Like it's not enough 970 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 3: to just say, oh, I'm gonna watch it, but like 971 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 3: sometimes you have to watch it because those ratings are 972 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 3: a matter of like somebody having a series on for 973 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 3: six seasons or like two episodes like it. And it's 974 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 3: so many good shows. I know it's a lot of 975 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 3: stuff out there, but like if you really love something supported, 976 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 3: tweet about it. Let people know because they watch those tweets, 977 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 3: They really look at those tweet to see what the 978 00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 3: conversation is. 979 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 1: All right, Look, Chloe Hilliard, thank you so much, thank 980 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,240 Speaker 1: you for having me. And now can people find you online? 981 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 3: Yes, follow me. You can go to Chloe Hillier dot 982 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 3: com or if your diet dot com you can get 983 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 3: a copy of my book. I'm also dropping a clothing 984 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 3: line Afleisure were Yes, I'm gonna make sure y'all get 985 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 3: some stuff up here. If the line is called f 986 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 3: your Diet. 987 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: So support you don't even We're gonna. 988 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 3: Go yeah, yes, yes it's over for us, Yes soon 989 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 3: dropping the summer so I'm excited about it, all right. 990 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much. I appreciate you always. You 991 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 2: got to make sure we make this. 992 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 3: A regular thing whenever I'm in New York. I'm here, okay. 993 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: Mastery of Comedy, Chloe Hilliard, thanks well,