WEBVTT - FIRST GUEST J.R. SMITH: WHY DOESN'T HE HAVE A TEAM? 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:07.520 Welcome back to All the Smoke Episode one. But I 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:09.719 hope you guys enjoyed the episode zero Man, it's been 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:12.440 a tremendous feedback. We love it. We appreciate the support. 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:14.920 If you haven't seen it yet, go to Showtime Basketball 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:19.239 YouTube channel. Our first guest All the Smoke, him and 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:21.880 Jack go way back, the one and only. I've always 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:24.200 fun with him just because I can tell he's a 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:27.200 lot like me. Never been teammates, but just always admired 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:30.120 from a far Man Jr. Man, appreciate you coming to 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:34.080 appreciate We forgot to do our hand shake too now 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:37.080 were little close. We ain't said like like can you 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:46.159 blow on your hands for you? Like God, damn you? 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:50.640 You know you playing with your nuts to what was 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:57.160 on Jergons Man, jerks really works okay? Anyway, Man, were 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:01.000 here the opening night of the season. I mean me 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:03.200 and Jack talked about this before you got here. There's 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:04.640 no way you should be sitting here right now. Man, 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:06.120 what's the latest. What's going on with you? We just 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:08.920 caught word on on social media that the legs are 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:12.680 very interesting. You know anything about that? Or I don't? Um? 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:14.920 I mean I've worked out with him in the summertime, 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:17.120 playing pick up like we always do, like most of 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:19.759 us have. And uh, but you know, nobody's ever called 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:22.399 and you know told me anything. So but right now, 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:24.559 I just try to stay ready. You know, whenever somebody 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:27.520 do call, somebody looking for something, I'll be there to 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:30.160 feel it in. People crack me up because they're like, man, 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:32.959 you're still working out, Like, yeah, Doc, I gotta first 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:35.600 of all, I love the game. Second of all, I 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:37.320 gotta stay healthy for the rest of my life where 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:39.160 I'm not trying to just go out there and and 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:41.240 look like a football player. I thought I've done playing 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:43.920 basketball in my life. That is easy too. Yeah, I 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:46.760 mean we've seen y'all have seen it. I mean we 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:48.880 come from a different crop though, so I understand when 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.440 you say you really love the game. Like people don't 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:54.400 understand that. They put their feelings into different situations about 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:56.440 the game and things you'dn't been through. We haven't been through, 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:59.200 but they don't understand. We just love the game. We 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:01.240 love the game but for anything. But but we got 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:02.920 to the NBA, you know what I'm saying, And that's 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:05.080 a lost art in the game to there. It's definitely 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:09.960 loving it different daily you're still working out daily, Okay, 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:12.360 well you want to. You're one of the people that 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:16.919 me and Jack thought that kind of started these videos 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:19.519 of working out with the trainers. You know, I think 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:21.200 you're one of the first ones that kind of started 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:23.280 with Chris back in New York. I think you and 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:25.000 Melo were kind of the first one. Now and now 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:28.640 it's a it's a regular fixture on Instagram. It's one 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:30.600 of the dopest ships to watch during the summertime because 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:32.960 that's a few times where everybody comes together, no matter 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:35.239 what your team are, who you are, and you're just hooping. 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.440 I think that's some of the best basketball. Yeah, for sure, 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:40.120 it's crazy because when I did it, it was like 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:42.720 just showing people like how much I let it game, 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.240 how much I appreciate the game. It was like, you know, 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:48.919 so many people I feel like, yeah, I've been around 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:51.480 players like oh I need my trainer, I need this person, 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:53.720 I need that, I need somebody rebound. Bro, you needed 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:57.200 the basketball and yourself, Like that's how it started. It 0:02:57.320 --> 0:02:59.720 was in the backyard. And I mean luckily I had 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:02.520 some brothers and stuff like that, my cousins to be around. 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:07.160 But even when they wasn't there. It was dark by myself. 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:10.880 It didn't matter. Now I actually got a name and 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:13.080 I could pretty much get into whatever Jim I want. 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:17.560 What's what's holding you back? Now? Know what I'm saying 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:21.120 is the girls. The cause is that the life is 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:23.760 like what's holding you back? Now? And so many people 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:27.080 like and I kind of I'm happy I did it 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:29.920 because obviously it turns you know, I helped turn it 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:32.800 into what it is now. Yeah, but now it's like 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:37.920 you to do now Yeah, now it's like it's doing 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:42.160 it for cloud now you cloud chasing, not because every 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:43.960 every player for like this something. I gotta get one 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:45.880 of those videos to make it look like I'm working 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:47.760 out to make it like I'm playing with the best guys. 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:50.920 Then you got guys like you trade young that's really 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:53.080 doing the work and going there to really get better. 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:54.520 You know what I'm saying, not just going to be 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:58.120 seen and it changes because that's how to that's how 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:00.440 to hear. You think, these kids all they want to 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:02.720 see is Instagram, then how many likes they get in 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:05.840 and instead of putting in the work to actually earn it, 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:08.880 earn it because you know, when what was growing up 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.240 so you gave us a pair of sneakers a team. 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:16.839 He was like, yo, man, you see, man, what you 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:20.480 need me to do? And I'm gonna get forty on him. 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:22.280 You know what I'm saying. That was that was our 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:25.960 motivation anyway, to go destroy opponent. But you get a 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:28.080 pair of sneakers. Now it's like, oh man, I can't 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:32.239 get on Instagram like Joe big Brook. You you shout 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:34.320 me out and help me get a blue check, a 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:36.279 blue check where you can get your own blue check. 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.880 You get a bigger check than the blue check that 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:40.720 you're worried about. Like, what did you talk to me 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:45.080 more when you right? Tell me the difference between because 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.240 I was always someone that you. You You were one of 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:51.520 the most skilled ball handling, off the off the dribble 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:53.919 shooters the game has ever seen. Like I've seen you 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:56.599 work out in person, I've seen you just green light, 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.080 but you're someone that bought into your road. Tell me 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:00.719 what the difference is when you're able just to be 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:03.680 you in the summertime and then understanding your role. You know, 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:05.960 I was someone that understood my role. Although I could 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:08.000 score and do more, I knew what the funk they 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:09.599 needed me to do. When I did it until I 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:11.640 didn't want to do it no more. You bought into 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:14.160 a role, but you're someone that is that, you know, 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:16.480 a legend when it comes to pick up. The thing 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:19.080 about me was I always that was always my role, 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:21.920 you know I'm saying. My role was always to come in. 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:24.960 And you know, up in to the fight in New York, 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:27.479 I was starting and Mellow was the highest scoreing duo 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.479 in the league at the time. Getting to get into 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:33.440 the fight. AI come to teage team shake up, you 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:35.480 go to the bench. I was like, oh, bet, so 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:37.440 now I could just all I gotta do is score 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:39.960 and y'all saw and George was like, yeah, just gonna 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.080 score as many points as you want. And then I 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:43.920 was like, all right, real cool. I'm just going there 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:47.360 and put put minds up and average eighteen and then 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:50.440 or whatever the kid and I'm out. And then it 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.160 was like, all right, that came. That became my mentality. 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:55.839 And then it was like, all right, well, now it 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.320 ain't even about the winner no more. He just wanted 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:00.480 to go get. He just wanted to get, you know 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:02.640 what I'm saying. And it's like I didn't realize that 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:05.359 I wasn't helping my team because all I gotta do 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:07.120 is go get my points and then you know what 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:09.640 I'm saying, you gotta figure the rest out. I gonna 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:13.120 get thirty, I'm gonna go get eighteen whatever, Chuck gonna 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:16.200 get his twenty something whatever, Kmark gonna get his twelve, 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:19.039 thirteen and fourteen rebounds, MC gonna do what he'd do, 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:21.080 and then you know we're gonna get to that Western 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:23.280 Conis final. We couldn't get over the hunt, but that's 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:27.839 how the season went. How talented was that team? Know you? 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:31.320 I tell you practice was a movie every day every 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:33.799 day and it was crazy because Kmark was like this 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:35.840 is this is right after Kmark current from Jersey, this 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:41.760 second knee surgery. He came back jumping higher. I was like, man, 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:45.200 we got MC longest blocking, give me that, give me 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:49.440 that a R. Then Chauncey came. It was like it 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:51.840 was it was what held y'all back though, well, I mean, 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.920 obviously the West is strong, but was chemistry because I 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:57.960 know y'all funk with each other, but sometimes that chemistry 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:00.320 from like I'm working, it just don't work on court 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:02.040 with it? Was it any of that? What you think 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:04.719 John heard George wasn't a whole nut, like what was 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:06.120 it that held you back? Because we had a similar 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:07.640 situation with the Clippers where we had all the time 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:09.320 to where we feel like we should have won a championship, 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:11.080 but we ran into we but it has too much 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.600 as players. As players, we never but I don't think 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:15.720 I don't think we but it has as players. It 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:17.880 was just like we weren't. I don't think it was 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:21.360 a mature enough team yet. And I'm saying we we 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:23.280 had a we had a coach that was able to 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:25.840 manipulate our minds. So we wanted to mature enough to 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:28.360 be like, yeah, man, let me high that you such 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:29.800 as I said this, let me talk to you, right, 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:32.920 I mean opposed to Oh that's what he said, that's 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:35.080 how you feel, all right? Bet well, I'm gonna get 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:37.200 my thirty five and or I'm gonna get my Tony 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:39.520 something and then what I'm saying then it kind of 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:43.320 it kind of was the gap within everybody into almost 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:45.480 just get your stats, you know what I'm saying. And 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:50.200 it's hard because if you're if your main players, isn't 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:54.720 that mindset and then everybody else I mean, yeah, I 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:56.720 mean don't get me wrong. I love Camar to death 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:58.320 became not to do is gonna go get thirty or 0:07:58.400 --> 0:07:59.760 night right? You know what I'm saying, And you see 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:03.080 not due what I'm saying. When this Clayser wasn't that dude. 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:06.000 What I'm saying, Dante, you know, we didn't have the 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.559 dudes that was doing that was in that situation where 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:12.000 it was like we're gonna try. They're so tight, we're 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:14.480 gonna wear's that friction, you know, Yeah, And that's how 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:17.120 it kind of infiltrated. And I don't blame I don't 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.960 blame him or them. I blame myself because I wasn't 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:22.360 just I was still young. I had a ton of money. 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:25.160 I thought I was like, man, look we're gonna y'all 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:27.400 gotta figure it out. Obviously, I'm not problem doing what 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:29.720 I gotta do, you know what I'm saying. So I 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:31.320 don't even start. So I don't even know how y'all 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.720 putting it on me saying some days I played some days, 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:36.520 I don't you know what I'm saying. So it was like, 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:40.120 once once that came into play, it just toward the 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:42.720 whole team. What age did you feel like you started 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:44.880 looking in from a bird's eye view instead of everything 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:47.080 being real personal. I think when I got to New York. 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:49.000 When I got to New York and mean years in 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:50.640 the game, because you came here out of high school 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:52.520 too a lot, you know, and that's special to be 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:54.000 able to make it, you know, that's something Jack did 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:56.160 to be able to come in at an early age 0:08:56.400 --> 0:09:00.280 as keep it real a boy playing against men and 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:02.600 navigating your way through the whole process. So how long 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:04.679 did it take you to you felt like, Okay, I 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:06.719 kind of look at it's a little different. Honestly, took 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:11.000 me like eleven years from twelve years. That's when I 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:14.720 got to New York because it was like, all right, 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:19.760 I'm I'm at the crib, I'm home, and everybody is like, 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:21.560 all right, what are you doing? What are you gonna go? 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:23.880 What are you doing this? What? I'm like, damn, I'm 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:27.280 really that important what I'm saying at the end of 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:30.439 the day, Like Grant, I always had a name from 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:33.240 high school and all that, playing ball that. But when 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.600 you start when people start talking about you every day, 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:37.560 talking about your social life, talking about who are you 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:39.520 dating and who you messing with? This and that, and 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:43.640 I'm like Yo, I'm that important, you know what I'm saying. 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:45.040 And I just took a step back. I was like, 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:47.880 wait a minute, like I ain't, I ain't ready for 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:50.959 all that. I played in New Orleans, played in Denver, 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:54.560 I was at Oklahoma City for a year, China, then 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.040 come out come from China, back to the to the 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:59.200 crib and then I'm I'm not that guy, but I'm 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:02.640 that guy on that. It's like, well, it's crazy too, 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:04.560 because it's not something we First of all, we're not 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:06.960 really taught how to handle any of this ship from money. 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.000 But then when you play in a major market and 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:10.520 for the front, you know, they don't teach you how 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:12.080 to deal with all that ship coming at you and 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:13.719 how your target as soon as you step out of 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:15.840 your house. Sometimes you're talking in your own house, you 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:17.360 know what I mean, with with some of the ships, 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:19.240 So they don't teach you how to navigate through that 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:21.280 and through that. I think all of us really has 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:25.400 similar reputations throughout our career, you know, very similar. Worst 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:27.280 for y'all is both of y'all played at home major 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:29.240 markets too, but on and off the court, you know 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:31.240 what I mean, where I'll beat ship with my ships 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:34.240 on TMZ and Sports Center for two different things, I mean, 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:36.160 two different crazy things, you know what I mean. So 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.920 it's just like to be able to navigate through that ship, 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:40.960 that's what we'd helped me with, you know what I mean. 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:42.640 That was something that allowed me to be able to 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.040 focus through all the bullshit, because I still fu made 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:46.920 some mistakes obviously, but it was something that made me 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:48.440 just you know, sit back and then just take a 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:51.040 different view, you know what I mean, Like, Okay, there's 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:53.200 a lot of potholes, I gotta dodge man, and I 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:55.439 gotta slow down and take a seat back and kind 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:58.600 of recalibrate, refocus. And that's something that really got me because, 0:10:58.600 --> 0:10:59.800 like I said, they don't teach us how to deal 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:01.400 with that ship. They don't teach us how to deal 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:04.199 with with with everything on top of the money they come. 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:10.880 They forget that you had a life before they figured 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:13.560 out who you was. You know what I'm saying, Like, 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.080 before y'all figured out who I was, you realized like 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:18.559 I had a whole family, I came from somewhere, I 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.400 was standing for something like this was y'all just found 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.520 out who I was. I've had a whole life y'all 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:25.000 just didn't know me. You really don't know, but you 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:27.240 still don't know. That's I'm saying. They don't know you. 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:29.720 They know who they think. I mean. That's like, like 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.280 I said, the perception of reality is perception is reality. 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:34.559 Sometimes so they'll catch a glimpse of us two hours 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:36.400 you get in the fight with the Knicks or some 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:38.640 bullshit happened off the court, and I know what, like 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:40.839 I know what masks like jacks always fighting, you know 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:42.280 what I mean. They think they know who we are, 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:43.760 but they never really get a chance to take that 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:47.439 next that deeper look. And it's it's crazy because they 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.520 don't they don't take the chance and they don't care 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:52.079 to learn. They don't care what's really going on with 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:54.360 and like what's going on? Let me figure out how 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:57.760 I can help them instead of kicking them down or 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.360 keeping them down, you know what I'm saying. Like people 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:02.120 forget I went to jail when I was in the league, 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:04.480 Like I'm saying, I did twenty four days in the 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:08.000 three and one in the sale. Well I got millions 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:11.319 of dollars for a month, and I couldn't do nothing 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:13.800 with I'm reaching out to people. I'm calling my NBA 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:18.280 boys all the dud yo yo, no crickets. I'm calling 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:21.199 coaches crickets. The only person case see me once was Gert. 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:25.280 You know what I'm saying. It was like I should 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:27.640 that should hurt me. I feeling like I'm saying my 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:30.920 godfather to this, you my man used I'm saying. But 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:34.439 so to deal with all that it come out, I'm 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:36.200 on the world path, I'm on the rage. I'm living 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:38.680 my life. I'm reckless at this point what I'm saying. 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:42.440 But people don't. People looking at like he's just riding out. 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:45.160 They don't know what, like what what what triggered that? 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:48.960 What happened between that? They don't realize. They don't care. 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:52.520 I'm in the accident with my best friend passes away. 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:54.160 You know what I'm saying, y'all don't ask me nothing 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:56.000 about that. All you want to know is did you do? 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:59.120 What happened? Was you under the influence? How about what? Like? 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.920 Is you good? What's going on? You know what I'm saying, 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:06.000 Like people don't care to learn from that. I think 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.320 because we get paid a certain amount of money, they 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:10.120 think we're not human still, you know what I mean? 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:12.280 Like I mean Jack went through when I lost my mom. 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:14.040 You know what I mean. I played two days after 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.880 she died, you know what I mean. And people don't understand, 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:21.920 like we go through the same ship, divorced, death, children, whatever, 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:23.800 but we we have to keep that game face on 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:25.520 the whole time because we get paid a bunch of money, 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:27.600 what I mean, So you can't you can't be human. 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:29.320 You got to be this person, like you said. They 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:31.079 don't never take the time to dig deep, you know 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:33.840 what I mean, Like, Okay, what he did this? What 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:35.240 what might be the read? They don't give a funk 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:37.240 about that, And it's crazy. Well what's crazy to me 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:41.760 is why is it that an athlete or a basketball 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:44.679 player is high as held to the higher standard as 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:49.480 the president. He shouldn't be, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:51.720 why is it that y'all look up the lebron so 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:54.679 much or step so much, and y'all hang on to 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.319 every step and told that they do that, it could 0:13:57.360 --> 0:13:59.240 just tarnish their career and then go out of nowhere 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:03.520 but the highest seat in the country. It's just the world. 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.280 In the world, so the United States, I mean, I 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:08.720 can't even say the world at this point. It can't 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:10.719 be at this point, they're not not now what I'm 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:14.880 saying right like that, it still if it's different standards 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:18.000 than what like, you can't like. I don't understand it. 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:20.720 I just don't get it. People think I'm crazy, but don't. 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:24.320 I'm gonna trying to figure you got it. You ain't crazy. 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:28.000 You just you know you're worth And that's what people 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:30.120 when they can't tell you what you're worth. That when 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.360 they don't control the narrative. It's a new day. Now 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:34.960 you control your own narrative. They can't say, they can 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:36.760 say what they want about you, but at the end 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:38.480 of the day, you have the same I would let 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:40.560 to say to to speak the truth. You know what 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:42.200 I mean, You can you can't just walk around and 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.960 people just gotta believe what they say. Now you can 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:47.360 create your own narrative, and that's what's important. Right now. 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:49.840 You gotta give Lebron and all those guys created But 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:52.400 when he came into the league, he created a situation 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:54.200 where he can create his own narrative and speak his 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:56.680 own throve and nobody around can make it a for 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:59.480 him for what I'm saying, and and nobody has done 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:01.840 that until he got to the league. Now we're all 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:03.960 able to do that. They can't say Stephen Jackson is 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.160 doing this now. No, I'm gonna TV right now, showtime 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:08.520 doing well. You don't say everything you think about me, 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:11.000 you know that's bullshit. This I'm right here. You can 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.480 ask me. So that's that's where we are now. So 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:15.360 they can't. They can't sugarcoach it no more. That's what 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:17.480 I love about it because you you can really speak 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:20.600 your own truths, and you can tell and you can tell, 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:22.560 you can really tell where your fan base is. Really 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:24.680 what I'm saying, it's not just walking into the rain 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:26.920 and they just drew for the whole team. You see 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.040 one kid or two kids with your jersey, you know, 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:31.880 so such such, Oh you're my favorite players, and you 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:34.000 actually get to see where your fan base at and 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:37.200 who really who really rock with you? And then what 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:40.080 I'm saying, I think that's special. Tell me what it 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:44.040 was like being with Brin, playing with Brian, developing more 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:47.160 than just teammatesing a real brotherhood with him. It was 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.640 crazy because I knew Bron since I was like fifteen. 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:52.920 I really yeah, I used to go to the Akron 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:55.280 and uh, go work out with him and ship and 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:58.640 how are you at the time. I was fifteen, he 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:02.440 was sixteen. Okay, uh no, I was sixteen, he was seventeen, 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:06.520 and um just going back and forth like like like 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:10.920 damn this like he good. I'm saying, I'm coming from 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:14.360 the best dude Jersey and the trashy area since like 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:19.520 me and Sebastian, I'm like, damn flying in high school, 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:25.160 he flying up to twenty handles passing vision. And my 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:27.280 think the thing I liked the most because I wasn't 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:30.520 even the basketball. I played football. He was don nice 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:32.720 and football. I was more jealous of the factor where 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:35.080 you got it basketball right cool? You came to be 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:39.640 scored touchdowns like this, getting picks, he bro. You know 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:41.520 what I'm saying that that's what That's what hurt me. 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:43.880 But that was my that's my man. Like his work 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.800 ethic and his drive changed my life. I think what 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:49.280 I'm saying because I looked at it from a different perspective. 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:54.600 I was always a person who worked and surprisingly other 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:57.760 than the Instagram like posting my videos, I never I 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:00.320 was so insecure in my game. I didn't really want 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:02.600 people to see. You know what I'm saying. I didn't 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:04.800 want them to see the insecurities that I had and 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:07.880 me missing shots. You know, we all have them within 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:09.919 our game because that's our crap. We love it so 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:12.280 much that that's you know, I mean, that's what it is. 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:16.280 And he helped me like, bro, that's the reason why 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:18.480 you hear this reason, this is why we're here. So 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:20.560 we when we get to those moments we missed those shots, 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:23.400 we do know, I mean. And he and he pounded 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:25.840 that ship into my head so much that every day 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:28.919 we was I was at the gym like three or 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:31.840 four times a day, and I'm saying and it wasn't 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:34.920 just like because I was always I'll go early, I wait, 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:36.680 tell everybody leave, and then shoot later and then I 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:39.600 come in at night. But then but he opened up 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:41.639 a regiment for me to where I was like, all right, cool, 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:43.640 I can shoot with you. I can shoot with you. 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:45.720 I can shoot with you. When y'all done, I could 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:47.520 go to shoot with him. Then I could go shoot him. 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:49.679 I wasn't like that before. It was before it's like, 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:51.480 all right, I'm gonna shot by myself, or when not 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:53.639 loo coming, I'm gonna shoot with him. And I'm saying 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:56.040 or no back I'll shoot with him. Cool. I mean, 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:58.120 I had by people, but it wasn't like I wasn't 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:01.280 as open into working with people everybody. Yeah, because I 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:03.119 took my I take my ship serious like I don't. 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.080 When I'm working on my shop, I'm not playing around. 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:08.960 Maybe seem like I'm shooting some bullshit shots, but these 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:10.840 are shots that I know. I'm a shooting the game, 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:13.960 and these are my shots that I that y'all brought 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:15.760 me here to shoot because you know I'm gonna shoot 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:18.280 them and when in the situation come, I'm gonna make 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.760 that shot. So people were like, oh damn, he took 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:24.120 that shot at working out, like, yeah, this is my ship. 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:26.760 I'm working on my ship, and I take that ship serious. 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:31.040 So when when gms and coaches and like, man, why 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:32.520 is he over there working on that? Why is he 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:35.040 doing that? I feel like I can't beat myself within 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:38.520 my within my job to work on my my craft 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:42.640 and respectfully without somebody else already judging me on who 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:45.240 I am, and now you're judging my game on top 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:50.520 of you probably don't even like it's that that that 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:52.920 that tells you, you know what I mean, the organization 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:54.879 and their focus because I was someone that got to 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:57.800 play with Katie and Steph and to see the crazy 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:00.920 ass shots that they took, like the coaches understood it, 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:03.760 the gms understood it, the owners understood it. Like Okay, 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:07.400 Steph is doing this spin around one left handed flip ship, 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:09.520 but Steph shoots them motherfucker's in the game and he 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:12.480 makes them. Katie is doing this off balance one foot ship, 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:14.639 but Katie shoots the wolf balance one foot ship and 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:19.000 make it. So to go from an organize winning organization 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.520 that encouraged you to work on your game to you 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:24.360 having to feel so insecure, like these motherfucker's are staring 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:26.320 at me tripping about my game. I think that speaks 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:29.000 to you know the fact of winning, you know what 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:30.800 I mean? Like then organization, then you go to then 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:33.840 you go to Cleveland where Lebron creates a culture where 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:36.200 be you it is the most important thing. But it 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:38.800 works your ass off, and then it worked crazy because 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:41.280 if I had that, I feel like if I had 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:44.760 that earli early on in my career to three years 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:47.639 and I would like and I could have actually have 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:51.320 my added the way I wanted to, different from my 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:53.920 whole I'm a whole different player. You know what I'm saying. 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:56.040 It's just it's just a different vibe. And I don't 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:59.520 live in the past, but that's obviously something that you know, 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:03.640 you know, you know how I mean, as when you're 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:06.360 coming up in high school and you know, as a kid, 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:08.919 you got a certain way you want your career to go, 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:11.240 and you want to win championships and all, and then 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:14.200 at a certain point that ship don't happen. Then reality 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:15.919 said it, like, all right, this is my role, this 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:18.120 is my player, this is the type of person I'm 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:22.200 gonna be from from going forward. That ship ain't easy 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:24.960 to grasp sometimes, you know what I'm saying, Like we got, 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:28.520 like you said, you set a high buff for yourself 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:30.000 and you get to the real you want to be 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:32.760 maybe not maybe all right, cool, I ain't go number 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:34.680 one pick, but I'm here. I'm gonna make my ship, 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:37.280 all right. I'm not gonna start now, but alright, cool, 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:39.600 I'm working my way. Alright, cool, Now, I'm a six man. Alright, 0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:41.440 bet I'm gonna start. And then I get pushed back, 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:44.040 like you're thinking about all of this ship, this is 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:46.879 your timeline, this is your life what I'm saying, and 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:49.520 all of this feelings and emotions, and then you get 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:54.879 you starving kids, you get married. Like I'm saying, like 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:57.160 a lot all that ship coming to play as basketball 0:20:57.160 --> 0:21:00.440 players two we don't understand, especially being all and fathers 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:03.760 and been dominant men. We take on roles just coming 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:06.040 out of the house for sure, how mastering the roles 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:08.720 that we get naturally fathers? You know what I'm saying 0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:10.919 things like that, because we've got so much thrown at us. 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:13.240 But I wanted to ask you to. Tim Duncan gave 0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:15.760 me that confidence. I see he was talking about Lebron 0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:18.720 and how y'all worked out together. I think Tim taught 0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:20.960 me that, and I think it's only certain players that 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:23.000 got that in them that can that can get that 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:25.280 out of us because we were similar. But Tim Duncan 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:27.280 able to work out with him and for him to 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:29.840 embrace me, that gave me confidence. You know what I'm saying, 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:32.680 That's what I needed. I wouldn't have been a professional. 0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:34.119 I didn't know how to show up. I didn't know 0:21:34.119 --> 0:21:35.440 how to work, you know what I'm saying. I didn't 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:37.040 know how to get ready for games. You know what 0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:39.200 I'm saying. But she was talking about Lebron Tim Duncan 0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:41.280 did that for me. Yeah, that's a that's a fact, 0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:45.120 like just being like overall being professional, Like I had 0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:48.240 some really good vents, like you know, I always try 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:50.560 to preach the coming in all time and stuff like that, 0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:55.280 but I was in uh, such bad cultures at times. 0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:57.920 It was just like it ain't even like you're waiting 0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:01.320 on me. I'm saying I could be if the buses 0:22:01.359 --> 0:22:03.920 at ten, I could show up at twelve o five 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:06.040 and I'm still not the last person. I'm the third 0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:08.240 to the fourth to the last person. So when I 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:10.480 go to somewhere else, it's twelve o five, but I 0:22:10.560 --> 0:22:14.040 come down to the bus gone, It's like, oh this 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:18.639 is it's really left. Like now, I'm like, that's why 0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:20.840 I always say winning started the top, and people like, 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:22.520 what does that mean. I mean it starts with the owner, 0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:24.560 then it starts to management and starts to coaching. You 0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:26.920 let sh slide and it starts getting slopping, and my 0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:29.160 fun's gonna do what they do and they get comfortable 0:22:29.160 --> 0:22:32.479 on the in in that position, and then you just 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:35.000 you can't win in atmosphere like that. You can win games, 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:36.840 but you're not gonna win. You know what I mean 0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:39.399 that's the thing. That's the thing. Like again, like you 0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:41.640 said with the Clippers, you're so talented. We have so 0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:45.159 much talent. You can have some too much. Yeah, you 0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:49.439 can have too much. You can definitely have We when 0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:52.879 we gonna have practice, that ship was I can imagine, 0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:56.560 like we got people trying to switch jerseys, man like, 0:22:56.600 --> 0:22:59.240 going back and forth. But it's it's all in the 0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:02.440 competitive We go to the lock, we talking, yeah, but 0:23:02.640 --> 0:23:04.840 we was busting your grass that man. Y'all know how 0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:07.320 to go. It's like it's at the end of the 0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:10.440 day when we left, we all we all knew and 0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:13.560 ask my motherucker, if we get out of here and 0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:15.920 something happened, we all go on. You know what I'm said, 0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:18.800 And that's how it was. That's how That's how it 0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:21.800 should be all the time, all the time. What's your 0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:23.760 relationship with Melolock. I think you guys are in a 0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:26.600 similar boat right now. Two guys that could definitely have 0:23:26.720 --> 0:23:29.640 the talent that you guys getting sucked over. Keep it real. 0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:32.840 He get that phone call to the GM's doing Oh no, no, no. 0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:36.280 They sign out a mass text with swish to do 0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:39.920 not funk with him. Yeah, y'all stop all that hate. Man, 0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:43.480 tell me what it's like knowing and seeing that you 0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:45.119 can still play in the game but not really be 0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:48.200 giving the opportunity. It hurts, man, it's just hardening. It 0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:54.000 gives your uncomfortable feeling. But as they lead what I'm saying, 0:23:54.080 --> 0:23:55.560 I could do what you want with it, I ain't. 0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:57.680 I ain't here to tell you what I mean because 0:23:57.680 --> 0:23:59.600 I got my business and all that, and you ain't 0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:01.080 about to come over here and tell me what I'm 0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:02.960 about to do, you know what I'm saying. So I 0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:06.719 respected from that manner, from the business standpoint. Um as 0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:09.200 a competitive obviously you want to play. Obviously you're looking 0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:12.439 down him when you still can. Yeah, I mean you 0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:16.640 gotta like you gotta understand, Like you know, I play ball, 0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:18.840 I go to I go to Jim in l A. 0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:20.720 I go to Jim in Houston, I go to Jim Miami, 0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:25.240 I go to Jim New York. What what the requid 0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:28.840 tire is it? And I had no business playing, but 0:24:28.920 --> 0:24:30.680 I just because I love it. Who you know what 0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:32.880 I'm saying. So in the midst of all of that, 0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:36.600 and it sa't no no like no hating ship. It's 0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:38.679 just a matter of fact, he not better than me, 0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:40.960 He not better than me, He not better, he not better, 0:24:42.040 --> 0:24:45.040 he not better than he not better than me, and 0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:49.680 him in the back evening right, And then when people 0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:51.520 look at me like, damn, you know you're really cocky, 0:24:51.640 --> 0:24:54.800 like no, you know how much I work doing what 0:24:54.840 --> 0:24:57.160 I do, And when I see him and I see 0:24:57.200 --> 0:24:58.760 what they do, and I see thee just the way 0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:01.440 they walking to him, the way they you're not you're 0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:04.240 not even comfortable with being here, you know what I'm saying, 0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:09.520 Like I can. You know, you smell blood all the time. 0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:11.840 I know how. I know where the lights is on 0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:13.679 this gym, I know where to I know who to 0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:17.359 talk to. I know this whole, this whole atmosphere. So 0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:19.600 when you're walking ahead and you're looking around, like who's 0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:23.359 in here? I smell blood? I see it's you know, 0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:26.840 you can't hide. It's a good feeling, especially to pick up. 0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:29.480 Ain't no reps, ain't no coaches, ain't no you can't 0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:36.119 hide here right here, this wing. That's why I was 0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:38.639 looking at the books, and it was like they was 0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:41.200 mad at him, saying double you know, y'all can't double, 0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:44.240 Like bro, First of all, who was doubling you? Why 0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:48.320 is it first? No, no, who who who was that? 0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:50.520 I want to know who came to double? We need 0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:54.440 to talk. Why is you double guard him? If I 0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:58.000 don't care, if he'sco a hunted, take that. You guard 0:25:58.080 --> 0:26:01.960 him time, you know how to go, and then when 0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:03.960 you go to the other end, I'm going right back. 0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:08.920 Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, calling for double man. I wish 0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:11.920 I wish I was. It's a different time there to 0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:13.680 play one on one full quote. When I was in 0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:20.040 Name to twelve, ain't no way, no way, bro. We 0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:23.560 come up different though, man, John Lucas and all that man. 0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:27.760 I was down there with Cotino Mobley, San Cansell, Steve Frands, 0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:34.439 young boys, young boy funding, yes yo coming. Catino Mobley 0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:39.440 was destroying me every single day in the workout me 0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:42.280 to left hand, all that post uff and I'm bigging 0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:46.600 him everything killing me. Yeah, young fella, get through that. Yeah, 0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:48.879 get through that. Figure that out, and you know he 0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:52.600 the ice King, will wait till he got your weight 0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:58.440 all the way. He's strong as ship. Shout out. Cat 0:26:58.680 --> 0:27:01.960 cat School was a killer killing a killer who was 0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:04.359 the toughest person you ever had to guard. It's different 0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:08.399 for me because I got like fortunately when you played, 0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:10.359 I played long enough to when you played, you played 0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:14.159 through errors. I can, I can go through like b 0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:19.879 roy was a problem. People always talk about people always 0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:23.480 talking about obviously Kobe and tax dollars, I always But 0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:25.920 when you think about people who was a problem and 0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:29.760 people who really don't really give the respect to understanding 0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:38.440 he was a problem. Cat was a problem, a problem problem. 0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:42.240 People don't even realize how much Caro Linker was a problem. 0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:46.200 And it wasn't even like it wasn't even like he's 0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:49.199 the guy. He was just a problem that nobody was 0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:52.399 just awkward right like he like you never he was 0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:54.560 just awkward dog. You couldn't get it, like you couldn't 0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:58.280 figure him out. You could figure about my first game, 0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:03.480 I actually played Reggie open Miller, but it probably wasn't 0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:07.520 even know ice so bro. It was all picks Davis 0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:14.160 every time, Young, listen, you gotta you gotta duck your shoulder, 0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:17.560 then really hit you with the big and they and 0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:22.160 they was moving back then there wasn't no not moving screen, 0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:24.679 no no, no, no, you're going out of bounds and 0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:29.639 it's Reggie, right young, don't say nothing to me. Let's go. 0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:33.439 And I remember it funny. I actually hit Reggie in 0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:35.600 two thousand nine because I had to guard Ray Island 0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:37.879 with Boston when I was in Orlando. How do I 0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:39.800 get around these picks? What kind of tricks? What do 0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:41.320 I need to do? Because I couldn't stay with that 0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:43.960 motherfucker And they said the perk was setting these hardass picks. 0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:46.480 KG was setting these hard ass picks like and I 0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:47.960 hear Reggie like, Yo, what do I need to do? 0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:50.520 And he told me, you know, grab his jersey, grab 0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:52.400 his arm for you, take off, stick to his body, 0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:54.560 get low, cut the corner. So he was telling me 0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:56.480 all the ship that you know, obviously people that try 0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:58.680 to do to him, but that ship is that people't understand, 0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:01.640 Like the game, you don't even have to be ISOs 0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:04.840 just imagined practice. Every day I gotta chase his motherfucker 0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:07.040 around because I'm the first I'm the first two guards, 0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:09.200 you know what I'm saying. This was last year, so 0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:12.000 I got to chase him around every day in practice. Man, 0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:13.800 that should get tired and it kills your offense because 0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:16.040 you ain't got no legs. That's why I said, he 0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:19.239 in great shape. People don't understand how important Clay is 0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:23.440 to go to state because staff don't have to do that. 0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:28.440 He scored fifty something with with with three driven killer. 0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:35.000 That's crazy killer. Two thousand eighteen, Game one of the finals. Uh, 0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:38.440 you get the offensive rebound and driven towards half court. 0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:43.240 Talk about that to me? What happened the play before 0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:48.680 when it was a foul? Uh? Wasn't Lebron pastor George Hill? Yeah, 0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:53.600 he was shooting free through and I'm I thought he 0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:57.320 made both of them. He did, so I was like, 0:29:57.320 --> 0:29:59.840 all right, bet, so next time George on the free 0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:02.960 I'm alright, bet we get the ball. Ship. They're gonna 0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:04.880 you know, I mean, we called time out whatever, They're 0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:07.920 gonna try to foul anyway, so we do we normally do. 0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:11.480 It's alright, Bet to get the ball. Nobody called time 0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:15.480 out something. Alright, Bet, I'm about your man, dribble it 0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:19.080 back out. Then game game had to be over. I 0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:22.560 look at Brian, Brian pointing like this, oh thiss be 0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:29.760 like ship. I look over, oh man. And then after that, 0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:32.760 I was just like, I know this ship ain't just happening. 0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:35.880 I know this ship ain't just happened. Not in the finals, 0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:39.480 not in the finals. It's about to beat these niggers 0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:43.920 say with the box out, the box out looked at 0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:45.840 you didn't expect to get that ball because you had 0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:50.760 right there. There's no way he was getting no bullshit, 0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:54.280 I was told. So I was so bet on going 0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:56.480 the other way and trying to steal the rebound because 0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:59.360 I was like, damn, if the ball comes this when 0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:02.160 I'm dead, an't. So I'm thinking, at the ball going 0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:04.720 that way, I can at least at least try and 0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:08.880 tip it somewhere right in your hands the way. Look, 0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:11.760 the ball came right and I said, oh, ship crab 0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:16.400 the ball alright, bet bro, we get to we get 0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:18.760 to the time out. I can laugh about it now. 0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:21.440 Hello it before you. How long did it take to 0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:24.600 laugh about it? Because it was memes. It was all 0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:26.520 over the world. It's gonna go down in here about 0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:28.560 that ship that night. No, he did in the chat room, 0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:37.680 he said, yourself, dude, Bro, I can't. I don't. I'm 0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:40.240 not a person to hold onto ship. I'm not gonna 0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:43.120 hold on to no grudges. No, I'm gonna I'll never 0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:46.360 forget it, but I'm not gonna. Let's up, right up, 0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:56.200 we all messed up. So what was the time out, 0:31:56.200 --> 0:32:02.680 like man, when I tell you it was like Brian asked, 0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:05.960 what was uh? Do we have a time? Oh? My good? 0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:11.520 And nobody wanted to answer the question. I didn't want to. 0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:15.160 I'll tell you. I'm telling him all the way. But 0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:18.640 what I'm telling him all the way to the bench. 0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:21.640 We gotta time out, I said, Bro, why didn't you 0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:23.560 just call it time out? Why don't just call it 0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:25.680 time out? That's why we was talking about. But why 0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:28.080 he was like walking to the bench. I'm like, he asked, 0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:30.400 he said, we gotta time out. We gotta time out 0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:34.720 when I tell you. So the players just looked away 0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:38.640 and the coaching staff looked like they could turn spook. 0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:42.600 Why does the ghost bro? I was like, oh shit, 0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:45.680 I've replayed it. I was crying in my room. How 0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:48.560 did how did he get the downy picker up a 0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:51.560 paper towel like he has a house paper towel And 0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:53.760 just when he found out that we had time I 0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:55.240 was up. He put it on his hands and back 0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:57.400 his face. Where did he get the down the quicker 0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:00.480 picker up that he always because he all use the 0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:03.800 regular towels, you know, so he has a roll a 0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:06.840 quicker pickup down here on the side. It ain't down here. 0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:16.680 It's like, I can't lie because I using weird, using 0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:18.600 all the same towers and ship and you're trying to 0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:21.000 wash them. I ain't trying with it. I saw that 0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:25.080 though all the coaches were spooked. Don't want to say 0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:28.480 an this is this is my thing though, like if 0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:30.200 it was, if it's my fault and you want to 0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:34.600 depend it on me, all right, cool free throws first, 0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:38.360 He'll make the down free throws. Nothing, how man, that's 0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:41.520 why it happens. I'm saying, That's why I ain't. I 0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:43.840 can't be mad at him for making the free show. 0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:45.600 We couldn't. We we didn't have to be in a 0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:48.080 position to win the game. Had an incredible game, you 0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:50.959 know what I'm saying. So I hit t Lou that night. 0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:53.880 I was like, oh, man, bro, I don't even know 0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:56.520 what to say. He's like, Bro, what are you talking about. 0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:59.880 You made the basketball play, it didn't work out and 0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:02.520 you messed and it happens. I was like, yeah, bro, 0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:04.320 but I should have shot the ball or whatever whatever 0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:06.400 I said to him, and he was like, man, but 0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:08.960 what if you didn't get the rebound? The game would 0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:12.040 have been over anyway. So I was like, chat, when 0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:15.080 I thought about that show, I was like, well, yeah, 0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:18.560 you're right, there's so many ships that could have happened, 0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:21.799 and what did happen? It happened and then we get 0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:25.160 swept anyway, so it was like we got Okay, we 0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:28.040 won one game, didn't want what is the difference? But 0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:30.960 that game won bron That game he had, that's one 0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:33.759 of the best games his career. For sure. Wow, for 0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:37.120 sure wo, I would have changed the whole series of 0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:49.359 if it wasn't fifth ye had ball, she'd be Grandpa something. Uh. 0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:53.360 Then you know when we played, we took serious your style, 0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:55.319 your culture. You know, you were the first one with 0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:58.120 the supreme bands and then they said you can't wear 0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:02.319 the band so you wouldn't got the tattoo on? Where 0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:06.640 did your style and and and tattoos? And tell me 0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:09.000 about that? I mean I grew up like you know, 0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:13.120 like most you know, young African American kids come into 0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:16.239 a lot of money. I ain't have a lot when 0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:18.520 I met growing up and around the way, you know, 0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:22.000 I got picked off anything I'm saying, except for my game. 0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:24.160 The only thing they could really mess with me about 0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:28.080 it closes this shoot at you if I ever come 0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:32.320 into money, If I ever, I'm gonna get this. My 0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:35.480 one thing. You can never tell tell me my crib, 0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:40.760 my cars and my clothes and my I'm gonna be straight, 0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:43.719 you know what I'm saying. And then once I fell 0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:47.160 into like, once I really understood who I am, I 0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:49.120 was like, it just made it that much easy because 0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:51.359 I'm comfortable in my skin and you know what I'm saying. 0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:54.000 So people, so many people like, oh, why would you 0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:56.080 wear this and that? Because I'm meeting That's why I 0:35:56.120 --> 0:35:58.080 like what I'm saying. Don't I don't have to be 0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:00.759 what you like. It's just I like it and I'm 0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:04.640 comfortable with it. So people, that's what That's what fashion is. 0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:06.960 It ain't like you're following the trend. Why do I 0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:09.000 got to follow that trend? It's all it's a billion 0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:11.360 other people out here that's gonna like what I like? Anyway? 0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:13.439 Why do I gotta follow what you like? It ain't 0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:15.880 what you got on? Is who got it on? How 0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:19.200 you carry yourself with it? I mean, I ain't know 0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:22.319 the person just walking around insecure and what I got 0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:25.680 going on. I'm a dope asting I got going without 0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:31.239 you telling me that what I was telling you, I'm gonna, yeah, 0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:36.360 transition into something that that you touched on earlier. But 0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:40.799 father life and we all, you know, kind of follow 0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:42.759 your journey. We're praying for you with your with your 0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:44.759 with your daughter that you went through a hard time with. 0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:48.360 But tell me what it's like that situation and overall 0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:50.040 just being a dad and the joy that you know 0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:53.040 your kids bring to your life. Man, that's that situation 0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:55.239 really molded me as a dad because it was like 0:36:57.320 --> 0:37:01.560 it changed my changed my perspective and people, you know, 0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:03.920 I told Brownness and I told somebody else to you 0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:07.439 probably shouldn't say that again. I'm like, and I thought 0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:12.480 about it, like, nah, Like bro, if if God forbid, 0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:15.680 something happens to my daughter, I'm done. I don't want 0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:20.319 to play ball no more. Like the hell with all 0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:22.600 of this ship, I would you know what I'm saying. 0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:25.160 And then over the course of time, she was getting better. 0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:28.399 She was getting better, and luckily I had broke my thumb. 0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:31.960 I brought my thumb in Milwaukee. Um so I had 0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:34.439 already been out, but I was getting healthy at the time. 0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:37.399 And then going through that situation, it was like one 0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:39.440 day she's good, then the next day, she's back in 0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:42.120 the You're back in the fire. But my thumb was 0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:46.040 getting healthy. So it's you know, it's getting to that 0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:48.720 time for me to start, you know, working back, working 0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:51.360 my way back. Obviously we're going to the finals and 0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:54.319 ship like that. And I was like, yo, if if 0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:57.080 something happened, I'm like, I ain't. I'm done, Like y'all, 0:37:57.160 --> 0:37:59.600 y'all can go ahead. You know, I ain't. I'm going 0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:01.640 back to Jersey. We can set up shop maybe because 0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:04.040 I can't. I can't come back from this and to 0:38:04.120 --> 0:38:06.719 go who And I'm saying, it's my daughter. What I'm 0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:12.040 saying like this is it's different for me and the 0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:15.080 way I came up with my brothers and sisters and 0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:18.880 my cousins and everybody. So and I told somebody that 0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:21.560 don't don't tell nobody that I don't tell me. And 0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:24.120 I did an interview when I came back and she 0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:25.880 made it out and I was like, yo, I'm I 0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:27.719 would I was about to walk away, you know what 0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:31.960 I'm saying. And I've been through instance where coaches and 0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:34.680 I ain't had my I felt like I had my 0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:36.799 fair shake, and know what I'm saying, I just felt 0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:39.279 like I was getting overall cheated by the game for 0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:42.360 the what I gave to it. But in that situation, 0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:44.720 I didn't give a different you know what I'm saying, 0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:47.839 you could have There's nothing that I could have. There's 0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:53.160 nobody that I knew, and even if I did have 0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:56.560 the amount of money that could have made her better, 0:38:57.000 --> 0:38:59.319 you know what I'm saying. So when when I got 0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:02.280 when I realized as that and I got again, somebody 0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:05.319 like Brian, we know plenty of people with plenty of money. 0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:08.200 He's just like, there's nothing that nobody There's nobody I 0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:11.919 can call there, Nobody did nothing. If she gone didn't, 0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:15.520 nobody got nothing. Can't nobody fix that? You know what 0:39:15.520 --> 0:39:17.919 I'm saying. There was a real life thought because every 0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:20.919 day you're having these conversations with the doctor. She having 0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:22.719 this procedure. She gotta go through this, she gotta go 0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:25.120 through that. I mean, my wife is just like, it 0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:26.840 took a toll on this. There's too much of a 0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:34.120 right and then it was hand yeah to handle, and 0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:38.239 then you know, and then again the people forget. Now 0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:40.840 you gotta be an athlete, Now you gotta play, you 0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:43.920 gotta wear this poker face. He's not playing with this potential. 0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:47.600 He's doing this, he's doing that. What's going on? How 0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:51.160 about his daughter is in the hospital and he might 0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:55.759 have something else going on it or not. It just 0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:58.080 might Know what I'm saying, People really think that you're 0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:00.759 just supposed to play through it all and well, she'll 0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:02.879 be okay, but go out there and win us a game. 0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:06.960 Who the fund is us? Right? Us? How can you 0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:10.520 mentally go back to that stage? It's not possible. You can't. 0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:16.040 So how much you're paying me or whatever and that 0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:22.239 if that's the case. Ship, But after, I mean, thank god, 0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:25.719 she's doing she's doing man, she too. She walking and 0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:28.719 she's trying to she's not she's not talking yet, but 0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:30.840 she's doing a little sign language and stuff. He posted 0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:33.000 a picture and recently at both of them, manute beautiful 0:40:33.040 --> 0:40:36.879 bank sisters. We had another one. How you got four 0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:41.719 four girls? All girls? I got five girls in the 0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:47.640 one roof though, right? My five guess one? Man? It's 0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:51.120 it's it's cool because I'm already telling me all the time. 0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:53.279 Like she asked me, if you want to boy, how 0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:54.920 you want to boy? I said, baby, you want to 0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:58.160 you want of the guys? True? I ain't tripping I 0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:01.759 got four girls, right, what's five gonna do for me? 0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:04.560 But help me? You know what I'm saying, And the 0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:09.680 day and age that we live in and the females 0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:13.279 around in this industry an area, I need to have 0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:16.640 six seven girls because they nobody gonna raise these girls 0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:20.640 the way I'm raising, like you can't. For the culture, 0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:25.880 we need more young African American, powerful young black women, 0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:27.960 you know what I'm saying. And I know that I 0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:31.480 could provide and be that male figure in their life 0:41:32.160 --> 0:41:33.880 where they can be that and they can do that 0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:35.960 and then we can prosper as a as a culture. 0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:38.520 You know what I'm saying. It ain't just about man, 0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:40.919 what about such a such Are you going suche's gonna 0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:43.399 be messing with your daughter? The bro? You simple mind? 0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:45.439 If I raised my daughter the right way, I never 0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:47.160 got to worry about that, you know what I'm saying. 0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:52.080 People don't. It's not like the fact that that you 0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:54.799 would think about that sort like what did you you 0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:56.839 know what, having a good day? But I don't even 0:41:56.840 --> 0:41:59.839 think like that. You know, have a good day? Bro? 0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:02.600 Raised you boys raised you. What's the best part about 0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:05.560 being a dad to you? Best part? Man? Every time? 0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:12.839 I walk in the house, is Christmas? Girl? I'm right, 0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:15.080 it's different. You're trying to put the game all right, 0:42:15.080 --> 0:42:18.160 I'm gonna shoot these hoops. See my girl, bro, and 0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:22.600 they like like my oldest she's she's just like her mother. 0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:25.000 She like. I'll be in the house chilling, playing the 0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:28.279 video game something and she's coming around, Hey, daddy, what's 0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:30.320 going on? How you doing? I'm good, but it was 0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:33.040 good none. I just want to check on you need anything, 0:42:33.120 --> 0:42:36.160 you want something to drink something like, nah, but I'm good. 0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:38.239 Appreciate it all right. I'll be over here. Hit me. 0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:41.399 I bet I get off the game and this game 0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:44.360 maybe what's up? Like what I'm saying, I just like 0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:47.120 like that is just like it's irreplaceable. So when people like, yo, 0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:49.120 you want to play again. But I'm having so much 0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:52.239 fun with my kids, Bro, I don't. We don't never 0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:54.160 get this time. You don't get it back. I mean, 0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:55.959 that's why I walked away. People don't realize that signed 0:42:56.000 --> 0:42:58.920 a three year contract in Sacramento to kind of finished 0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:01.719 my career out. They trade Boogie. We have talks. I'm 0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:04.080 trying to win and I'm going to the Warriors. We 0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:07.080 win and with two more years left on my deal. 0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:10.440 I missed my kids. You mean, I was going through 0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:12.000 some ugly ship where I wasn't get to see my 0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:13.600 kids as much. Like you don't get none of this 0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:16.000 time back, none of this time back, you know what 0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:17.840 I mean. So that's why I chose to walk away 0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:21.720 after fourteen years, was because, like my boys are seven 0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:24.080 a nine, they're about to be eleven, and in a 0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:26.000 couple of weeks, like this is when they need me 0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:28.279 the most, you know what I mean. So, like you said, 0:43:28.840 --> 0:43:30.600 to be able to humanize us and let people know 0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:33.560 like we we were regular dudes. We just happened to 0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:35.080 to do something really well and get paid a lot 0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:37.000 of money for it. Don't take us. It don't make 0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:39.359 us any different from the the day in, day out ship. 0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:43.120 We gotta deal with life in general. It's tough, exactly. 0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:45.120 It's just that I'm really good at a job that 0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:47.880 everybody a lot of people like that paves me a 0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:50.480 lot of money from Still, I mean, it doesn't make 0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:52.839 me no better than the teacher or a doctor who 0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:56.160 out there saving lives. Y'are actually teaching the kids, actually 0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:58.960 giving my kids knowledge that I'm supposed to trust and 0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:02.120 believe that that they're gonna use this going forward. Y'all 0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:04.040 played just as a bunch of the biggest roles as 0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:05.839 we do, and it needs to be the same. People 0:44:05.840 --> 0:44:07.839 will be like, oh, I don't understand why he gets 0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:10.080 in it. Like, bro, Like, it ain't my fault, it's 0:44:10.120 --> 0:44:14.560 just the way life is, the way you go. All right, 0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:17.480 We're gonna hit you with some quick takes. Uh. Just 0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:21.160 first thing that comes to your mind golf. I hear 0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:23.160 you love golf. Tell me about golf, aren't you? How 0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:26.080 did you get started with that most Malone? What's really 0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:32.000 rest in peace? Yeah? Charlot Lewis Um he had a 0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:35.560 golf out in Texas, this first one, and he's like, yo, 0:44:35.760 --> 0:44:38.680 come through you let me show love. And I can 0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:41.840 say this, but I was singing at the tour um, 0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:45.680 so he was out there chilling and Ship, I'm messing 0:44:45.719 --> 0:44:47.480 with the card girls taking shots. I ain't played golf 0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:49.839 at the time, and so I'm messing with everybody group 0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:51.840 dudes hitting the ball in the water, hitting it in 0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:53.600 the woods. I'm like, man, I don't ask Ship as 0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:56.160 he so most more, I pull up a most Malone 0:44:56.160 --> 0:44:58.560 group that man, y'all fella come at this ball. I'm like, man, 0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:00.920 I guess hall of famers. I don't. That's one thing 0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:04.120 I don't do Hall of famers, and I don't disrespect them. 0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:05.759 And they tell me to do something, I'm gonna them. 0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:07.520 Just go to the stand and give me a hot 0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:10.319 the I got you. You know what I'm saying. So 0:45:10.520 --> 0:45:13.080 he's like, I was all right, get up there, hit 0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:16.439 the ball three hunt yards down the first time. She's like, man, 0:45:16.680 --> 0:45:18.560 something that ship easy to get. Give him. Throw the 0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:20.880 club back, getting the golf cart. Pull off that I 0:45:20.960 --> 0:45:24.799 was saying, take some riding around, talking again. Pull up 0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:27.359 on this group again, and fella, come hit this ball again, 0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:30.360 he's telling people and ship. Now it's like a little crowd. 0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:33.200 I get up there. I couldn't hit the ball, bro, 0:45:33.560 --> 0:45:35.399 I couldn't hit the ball. After that, I was hooked. 0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:37.120 I went to the girlf store, got like three sets 0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:40.719 of club I'm gonna get this ship for sure. And 0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:43.359 then we're playing every sinse You went on some kind 0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:46.480 of tours. There's some of the golf courses, right yeah, yeah, 0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:48.879 what kind? What? What? What? What? Good courses? You hit 0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:52.000 like this in count nas and has a few courses 0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:54.600 and I play all the San fran Courses, Coyle Club, 0:45:55.920 --> 0:46:01.600 San Francisco Golf Club. Damn, what a hardened park. And 0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:04.239 it's uh, I want to spin an Oregon. So they 0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:06.600 called it the Solstice. It's called Ben and Delons. They 0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:11.719 got uh four the top one courses at the same spot. 0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:14.960 But the Solstice, you gotta It's supposed to be the 0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:17.879 longest day of the year, so you play golf from 0:46:17.920 --> 0:46:20.800 sun up to sundown. So he played seventy two holes, 0:46:21.640 --> 0:46:25.080 walked the whole time. Walk So we set off like 0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:32.799 five forty walked off, walked off at like exhausted. No, no, 0:46:33.480 --> 0:46:36.960 people understand that you played that mental focus. It's with draine. 0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:38.799 I need a quarter pound to make it through that 0:46:40.560 --> 0:46:45.560 whole q P pack of back was all eight packs, 0:46:45.600 --> 0:46:47.080 but I need them all fresh. I don't need the 0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:49.239 ones with the stems in it. I need the fresh pack, 0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:50.759 but all five of them. You know what I mean. 0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:54.560 I don't need to have no goods. No I QP. 0:46:55.040 --> 0:46:57.200 I can make it through seventy two holes. I don't 0:46:57.200 --> 0:46:58.919 care where that ball go after that. At the half 0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:06.520 of the QP better but better golf for your stuff stuff. Yeah, yeah, 0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:08.040 he could he could play. I played with a while 0:47:08.080 --> 0:47:10.200 ago that at CP wedding, but he got so much 0:47:10.239 --> 0:47:14.040 better even since then. He could play the Will could play, 0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:18.680 Ray could play Jay Kidd, Kyle Corey is really good. 0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:23.040 Yeah when did you? What age did you get your 0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:28.319 first tattoo? I was fifteen, my sister. I didn't even 0:47:28.320 --> 0:47:30.120 want to get one at first. My sister wanted to 0:47:30.160 --> 0:47:32.120 get one and she was looking not scared of ships. 0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:34.920 I was like, ah, I go with you, and my 0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:37.560 mom took us some ship when her when I heard 0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:42.600 people's uh, some biker dude new did tax and ships, 0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:47.600 so he tattered us up and like two weeks later 0:47:48.120 --> 0:47:50.120 I went back. We got my other side, because you 0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:52.239 know you're in high school. Ship, you get your tat 0:47:52.560 --> 0:47:57.880 you want it. Yes, you got to join out. Everybody 0:47:57.920 --> 0:48:02.040 was loving. I was like, nah, nah, I'm going back 0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:05.279 for sure. It was over. It was over. You're coming 0:48:05.320 --> 0:48:08.680 in them now right, Yeah, I'm I'm working on my legs. Now, 0:48:09.440 --> 0:48:14.200 what's your most painful tattoo? They looked like that shin. 0:48:16.320 --> 0:48:21.600 I'm saying, you got ship. I'm coming up on his knee. Broe, 0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:23.279 I'm cool, on. I want to do my legs, but 0:48:23.320 --> 0:48:25.239 I ain't trying to get the unnecessary pain like on 0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:27.080 the knee caps. Now that I ain't that's what I 0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:29.040 ain't going. That's all I ain't going to the knees. 0:48:29.120 --> 0:48:32.720 Ain't much here, But you know it's crazy, it's easier 0:48:32.760 --> 0:48:35.959 for like, the healing process here is so much better. 0:48:36.640 --> 0:48:39.120 And where the number ship that who got? Whoever got 0:48:39.160 --> 0:48:41.680 the number? Ship that worked? Man? All the smokes sending 0:48:41.680 --> 0:48:44.400 me something. I ain't trying to be superhero and gangster 0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:47.319 me and I took man, listen, where the numb and 0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:49.760 ship that I needed? Bro, there's a lot of people 0:48:49.760 --> 0:48:53.839 out here who was flamed up, tatted, who went through 0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:56.759 that another cream. But I don't feel bad. Yeah, I'm 0:48:56.760 --> 0:48:59.120 trying to numb myself. I want to put me out 0:48:59.280 --> 0:49:02.040 and just to me talk, you gotta wake me up 0:49:02.280 --> 0:49:05.880 swimming that I just got the nip done in my 0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:09.520 hand and I'm an hour and a half before because 0:49:09.520 --> 0:49:13.920 I got ready to first day. I said, oh, man, 0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:16.000 like the motherfucker my hand. I think my ribs and 0:49:16.040 --> 0:49:20.280 my elbow were probably the worst. Just a numbing cream 0:49:22.320 --> 0:49:23.920 and was not hurt. Bro. You know what's you know 0:49:23.960 --> 0:49:27.719 what's funny. I was Chuck came to the team. I 0:49:27.840 --> 0:49:32.200 was I was. I was. I kept asking them, like, yo, bro, 0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:34.440 your hands hurt, Like what's that joint? It was like 0:49:35.000 --> 0:49:36.919 he's like, yeah, man, my hands hurt. But the dude 0:49:36.920 --> 0:49:39.399 ain't do how I wanted it. And I was like, why, 0:49:39.480 --> 0:49:43.239 I bet it's at the practice one day. So the 0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:46.719 next day we got we got a game. We play 0:49:46.760 --> 0:49:50.839 a Sacramento and and then I go to the tax 0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:54.960 shoe shop at like seven to do this hand go 0:49:55.080 --> 0:49:59.040 to practice lead a tech shop due to the other hand, 0:49:59.719 --> 0:50:05.080 go played the game. I tell you my hands forty 0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:13.919 did you killed only only switch on your tattoo time 0:50:14.080 --> 0:50:16.480 the boy touched my hand, My hands was hurting so 0:50:16.520 --> 0:50:23.279 bad from the past for sure that it was going unconscious. 0:50:23.360 --> 0:50:28.160 Unconscious there's too many beans. But you got a lot 0:50:28.160 --> 0:50:30.399 of beans in your hand. Man, I know that ship hurt. 0:50:30.680 --> 0:50:35.720 I'm cool on that. Michael Kobe, Mike, Michael is always 0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:40.480 my I mean Kobe. I think Kobe was more polished, 0:50:40.640 --> 0:50:46.080 but Mike was just wrong killer killer. It's hard for 0:50:46.239 --> 0:50:50.680 like you can't That's like, that's like asking Bruce Lee 0:50:50.760 --> 0:50:52.840 or the I P man gotta go I P because 0:50:52.840 --> 0:50:58.040 he taught Bruce said so he the masters as much 0:50:58.080 --> 0:51:00.560 as he wanted to be him. He can't never begin 0:51:00.640 --> 0:51:03.680 because I thought you everything right, right, what I'm saying right, 0:51:03.760 --> 0:51:07.680 So it's like I don't know. I get it's tough 0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:11.680 Braun and Kobe. See I've been in the trenches with 0:51:11.760 --> 0:51:16.560 bron Um, So in that respect, I would say bront 0:51:17.560 --> 0:51:20.960 the mindset and all of that. I love Kobe. See, 0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:25.399 I'm the other way with code Maude, that's what set 0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:27.839 him apart and seeing his work ethic. I'm the other way, 0:51:27.880 --> 0:51:29.840 you know. I mean, I think Kobe is is a 0:51:30.080 --> 0:51:32.719 you know, a step ahead to me. It's you know, 0:51:33.000 --> 0:51:35.720 Mike Kobe Braun. But Braun is right there with Kobe 0:51:35.719 --> 0:51:37.560 to me, you know what I mean. But like you said, 0:51:37.560 --> 0:51:38.719 because you went to world one of them, I been 0:51:38.760 --> 0:51:41.960 the world with Kode. It's it's seeing I called it 0:51:42.040 --> 0:51:46.400 a beautiful mind crazy, you know, obsessed whatever maybe and 0:51:46.400 --> 0:51:51.080 made them who they are a couple of times, it's 0:51:51.120 --> 0:51:54.600 like it's like when it's like when you watched watching 0:51:54.600 --> 0:51:58.360 them play, It's like it's like watching him paint this. 0:51:58.600 --> 0:52:01.440 I've seen him to do. The joint was like, uh 0:52:01.760 --> 0:52:04.279 slowed up and then like watching it you can put 0:52:04.360 --> 0:52:07.719 music behind it is watching the artists paint is one 0:52:07.719 --> 0:52:09.920 of the most beautiful things ever as you get to 0:52:09.960 --> 0:52:12.640 see you don't know where they're going with it, and 0:52:12.760 --> 0:52:14.680 you can just and at the end of the picture, 0:52:14.800 --> 0:52:17.560 just like damn, he watched Brian played like, you know, 0:52:17.600 --> 0:52:19.359 I don't know how he's doing it or where he's 0:52:19.400 --> 0:52:21.319 going with it, but and then you look up. He 0:52:21.400 --> 0:52:28.560 got forty fifteen seventeen six steals and we just barely 0:52:28.600 --> 0:52:32.200 want crazy And the only reason why we wanted because 0:52:32.239 --> 0:52:35.560 he did some off the wall, shake the ship and 0:52:36.080 --> 0:52:39.680 one hand lefty. That only comes from greatness, the only, 0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:43.080 the only way. If anybody else shot that shot in 0:52:43.080 --> 0:52:46.520 that arena, we could have went through all two thousand 0:52:46.520 --> 0:52:49.480 of them others. He's the only person I've made it. Yeah, 0:52:49.600 --> 0:52:51.960 you know what I'm saying. It's just you see that 0:52:52.080 --> 0:52:53.600 day in and day out, and then you see the 0:52:53.640 --> 0:52:56.759 determination behind it to do it day in and day out, 0:52:56.880 --> 0:53:01.520 every single days became Yeah. I mean when I walk 0:53:01.560 --> 0:53:04.719 in the gym, I love like people. I love to 0:53:04.760 --> 0:53:07.239 see somebody else working because I need that. So when 0:53:07.280 --> 0:53:10.680 I go now it's my I'm gone. I'm saying. People 0:53:10.680 --> 0:53:13.239 are like, oh, you go to lifetime. I need to 0:53:13.239 --> 0:53:15.440 see that because somebody else is working when I'm just 0:53:15.440 --> 0:53:18.320 sitting there talking to you. You know what I'm saying. 0:53:19.080 --> 0:53:22.160 And for me as a competitor, I never want somebody 0:53:22.200 --> 0:53:24.359 else to have one up on me. If if if 0:53:24.400 --> 0:53:26.880 I go to the gym right now, right and I 0:53:26.960 --> 0:53:29.960 know he'd been in the gym all day, every day 0:53:30.040 --> 0:53:35.640 all summer and I'm sporadically throughout the week's uh, I 0:53:35.840 --> 0:53:38.320 know that he's gonna have a better chance of busting 0:53:38.360 --> 0:53:41.480 my ass. So why would I give him the opportunity 0:53:42.760 --> 0:53:44.719 He's gonna he's gonna take full advantage of ship. I 0:53:44.800 --> 0:53:47.640 know I would. I'm damn sure going to you better 0:53:47.680 --> 0:53:52.680 believe it. Everything is coming out of the trick back everybody. 0:53:53.080 --> 0:53:55.080 I had a chance to do this in the season 0:53:55.160 --> 0:54:03.040 either getting it now and it's gonna work. I believe it. Craziest. 0:54:03.200 --> 0:54:06.160 We'll wrap after this craziest story you could tell us 0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:17.279 about throughout your career that stands out. Craziest story. You know, 0:54:17.440 --> 0:54:22.040 you gotta you gotta. You asked somebody like us that question, 0:54:22.200 --> 0:54:26.439 Ship which one? I got? Nothing kind of mind? Last 0:54:26.520 --> 0:54:30.920 night the week before that ship I got so visy, man, 0:54:31.000 --> 0:54:34.399 you get so many playing with dude, like bro for me. 0:54:35.000 --> 0:54:39.960 I played with bet as a young boy, as a 0:54:39.960 --> 0:54:46.760 young boy, be in the boot, C p Oh Mellow, 0:54:47.480 --> 0:54:59.040 Chauncey A kalmar m c Amari Jay Kid, I mean, 0:54:59.120 --> 0:55:01.919 Brian Kyrie, Kay Love. I played with so many people. 0:55:02.120 --> 0:55:08.480 It's just like that experience that's good good, I'm saying. Yeah, 0:55:08.600 --> 0:55:11.440 And there's a lot of them. If I never played 0:55:11.480 --> 0:55:13.920 another game again, I like I talked to I was 0:55:13.960 --> 0:55:16.480 talking to Samazelle last night. Man, He's like, one thing 0:55:16.560 --> 0:55:18.200 you count took. The only thing you can take it 0:55:18.200 --> 0:55:22.200 away from this game is your money and your memories. Yeah, 0:55:22.880 --> 0:55:24.480 you know what I'm saying that. The one thing if 0:55:24.480 --> 0:55:26.600 you're gonna take anything away from this game is your 0:55:26.600 --> 0:55:30.760 money and your memories. So you really need I remember 0:55:30.800 --> 0:55:32.600 going in the locker room with these dudes every day, 0:55:32.600 --> 0:55:34.080 going to war and all of that ship, and I 0:55:34.120 --> 0:55:36.279 loved every minute of it. I'm not and I don't 0:55:36.320 --> 0:55:38.000 regret none of them because I know when I was 0:55:38.040 --> 0:55:40.160 out there, what y'all, I gave y'all everything I had, 0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:42.920 and if it wasn't good enough time ship, it just 0:55:42.920 --> 0:55:45.160 didn't wasn't good enough, y'all. Google. I have to accept 0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:47.640 it because the Dansher wasn't good enough for me at 0:55:47.680 --> 0:55:49.680 times when I was bringing my ship, he wasn't. So 0:55:50.440 --> 0:55:54.040 it just is what it is, what I'm saying, Yes, sir, 0:55:54.480 --> 0:55:58.200 we appreciate you man. You know that, you know that. 0:55:58.280 --> 0:56:01.800 Appreciate you coming, my boy. That's a wrap man episode 0:56:01.840 --> 0:56:04.359 one in the can j R. Smith. We appreciate you. 0:56:04.480 --> 0:56:06.439 Hopefully see you on the on the court man. Yeah, 0:56:06.480 --> 0:56:08.960 you gotta keep us updated. Man, the Laker sign you. 0:56:09.040 --> 0:56:10.200 We know you're about to buy a house out of 0:56:10.239 --> 0:56:12.719 here anyway, so Lakers you might as well. He's here. 0:56:13.320 --> 0:56:17.760 I mean, come on, I'm gonna work out anyway. Free Jr. 0:56:17.880 --> 0:56:41.040 Free mellow. We'll see y'all next week. M hm m 0:56:47.239 --> 0:56:51.800 m m