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Speaker 1: Welcome back to All the Smoke Episode one. But I

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Speaker 1: hope you guys enjoyed the episode zero Man, it's been

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Speaker 1: a tremendous feedback. We love it. We appreciate the support.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't seen it yet, go to Showtime Basketball

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Speaker 1: YouTube channel. Our first guest All the Smoke, him and

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Speaker 1: Jack go way back, the one and only. I've always

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Speaker 1: fun with him just because I can tell he's a

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Speaker 1: lot like me. Never been teammates, but just always admired

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Speaker 1: from a far Man Jr. Man, appreciate you coming to

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Speaker 1: appreciate We forgot to do our hand shake too now

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Speaker 1: were little close. We ain't said like like can you

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Speaker 1: blow on your hands for you? Like God, damn you?

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Speaker 1: You know you playing with your nuts to what was

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Speaker 1: on Jergons Man, jerks really works okay? Anyway, Man, were

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Speaker 1: here the opening night of the season. I mean me

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Speaker 1: and Jack talked about this before you got here. There's

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Speaker 1: no way you should be sitting here right now. Man,

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Speaker 1: what's the latest. What's going on with you? We just

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Speaker 1: caught word on on social media that the legs are

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Speaker 1: very interesting. You know anything about that? Or I don't? Um?

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Speaker 1: I mean I've worked out with him in the summertime,

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Speaker 1: playing pick up like we always do, like most of

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Speaker 1: us have. And uh, but you know, nobody's ever called

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Speaker 1: and you know told me anything. So but right now,

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Speaker 1: I just try to stay ready. You know, whenever somebody

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Speaker 1: feel it in. People crack me up because they're like, man,

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Speaker 1: you're still working out, Like, yeah, Doc, I gotta first

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Speaker 1: of all, I love the game. Second of all, I

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Speaker 1: gotta stay healthy for the rest of my life where

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to just go out there and and

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Speaker 1: look like a football player. I thought I've done playing

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Speaker 1: basketball in my life. That is easy too. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean we've seen y'all have seen it. I mean we

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Speaker 1: come from a different crop though, so I understand when

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Speaker 1: you say you really love the game. Like people don't

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Speaker 1: understand that. They put their feelings into different situations about

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Speaker 1: the game and things you'dn't been through. We haven't been through,

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Speaker 1: but they don't understand. We just love the game. We

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Speaker 1: love the game but for anything. But but we got

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Speaker 1: to the NBA, you know what I'm saying, And that's

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Speaker 1: a lost art in the game to there. It's definitely

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Speaker 1: loving it different daily you're still working out daily, Okay,

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Speaker 1: well you want to. You're one of the people that

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Speaker 1: me and Jack thought that kind of started these videos

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a regular fixture on Instagram. It's one

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Speaker 1: of the dopest ships to watch during the summertime because

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Speaker 1: that's a few times where everybody comes together, no matter

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Speaker 1: what your team are, who you are, and you're just hooping.

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Speaker 1: I think that's some of the best basketball. Yeah, for sure,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy because when I did it, it was like

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Speaker 1: But even when they wasn't there. It was dark by myself.

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Speaker 1: It didn't matter. Now I actually got a name and

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Speaker 1: What's what's holding you back? Now? Know what I'm saying

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Speaker 1: is the girls. The cause is that the life is

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Speaker 1: like what's holding you back? Now? And so many people

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Speaker 1: it for cloud now you cloud chasing, not because every

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Speaker 1: get on Instagram like Joe big Brook. You you shout

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Speaker 1: You get a bigger check than the blue check that

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Speaker 1: you're worried about. Like, what did you talk to me

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Speaker 1: more when you right? Tell me the difference between because

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Speaker 1: I was always someone that you. You You were one of

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Speaker 1: work out in person, I've seen you just green light,

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Speaker 1: but you're someone that bought into your road. Tell me

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Speaker 1: I was someone that understood my role. Although I could

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Speaker 1: how the season went. How talented was that team? Know you?

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Speaker 1: from like I'm working, it just don't work on court

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Speaker 1: I mean opposed to Oh that's what he said, that's

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Speaker 1: not due what I'm saying. When this Clayser wasn't that dude.

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Speaker 1: looking in from a bird's eye view instead of everything

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Speaker 1: being real personal. I think when I got to New York.

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Speaker 1: able to make it, you know, that's something Jack did

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Speaker 1: to be able to come in at an early age

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Speaker 1: as keep it real a boy playing against men and

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Speaker 1: navigating your way through the whole process. So how long

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Speaker 1: all right, what are you doing? What are you gonna go?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing this? What? I'm like, damn, I'm

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Speaker 1: the day, Like Grant, I always had a name from

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Speaker 1: Steph is doing this spin around one left handed flip ship,

425
00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,520
Speaker 1: but Steph shoots them motherfucker's in the game and he

426
00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,480
Speaker 1: makes them. Katie is doing this off balance one foot ship,

427
00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,639
Speaker 1: but Katie shoots the wolf balance one foot ship and

428
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:19,000
Speaker 1: make it. So to go from an organize winning organization

429
00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,520
Speaker 1: that encouraged you to work on your game to you

430
00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,360
Speaker 1: having to feel so insecure, like these motherfucker's are staring

431
00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,320
Speaker 1: at me tripping about my game. I think that speaks

432
00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,000
Speaker 1: to you know the fact of winning, you know what

433
00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,800
Speaker 1: I mean? Like then organization, then you go to then

434
00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,840
Speaker 1: you go to Cleveland where Lebron creates a culture where

435
00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,200
Speaker 1: be you it is the most important thing. But it

436
00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,800
Speaker 1: works your ass off, and then it worked crazy because

437
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,280
Speaker 1: if I had that, I feel like if I had

438
00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,760
Speaker 1: that earli early on in my career to three years

439
00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,639
Speaker 1: and I would like and I could have actually have

440
00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,320
Speaker 1: my added the way I wanted to, different from my

441
00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,920
Speaker 1: whole I'm a whole different player. You know what I'm saying.

442
00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,040
Speaker 1: It's just it's just a different vibe. And I don't

443
00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,520
Speaker 1: live in the past, but that's obviously something that you know,

444
00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,640
Speaker 1: you know, you know how I mean, as when you're

445
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,360
Speaker 1: coming up in high school and you know, as a kid,

446
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,919
Speaker 1: you got a certain way you want your career to go,

447
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 1: and you want to win championships and all, and then

448
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,200
Speaker 1: at a certain point that ship don't happen. Then reality

449
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:15,919
Speaker 1: said it, like, all right, this is my role, this

450
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,120
Speaker 1: is my player, this is the type of person I'm

451
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:22,200
Speaker 1: gonna be from from going forward. That ship ain't easy

452
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,960
Speaker 1: to grasp sometimes, you know what I'm saying, Like we got,

453
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 1: like you said, you set a high buff for yourself

454
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 1: and you get to the real you want to be

455
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 1: maybe not maybe all right, cool, I ain't go number

456
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,680
Speaker 1: one pick, but I'm here. I'm gonna make my ship,

457
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 1: all right. I'm not gonna start now, but alright, cool,

458
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm working my way. Alright, cool, Now, I'm a six man. Alright,

459
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,440
Speaker 1: bet I'm gonna start. And then I get pushed back,

460
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 1: like you're thinking about all of this ship, this is

461
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,879
Speaker 1: your timeline, this is your life what I'm saying, and

462
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 1: all of this feelings and emotions, and then you get

463
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:54,879
Speaker 1: you starving kids, you get married. Like I'm saying, like

464
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,160
Speaker 1: a lot all that ship coming to play as basketball

465
00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,440
Speaker 1: players two we don't understand, especially being all and fathers

466
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 1: and been dominant men. We take on roles just coming

467
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 1: out of the house for sure, how mastering the roles

468
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 1: that we get naturally fathers? You know what I'm saying

469
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 1: things like that, because we've got so much thrown at us.

470
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 1: But I wanted to ask you to. Tim Duncan gave

471
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 1: me that confidence. I see he was talking about Lebron

472
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: and how y'all worked out together. I think Tim taught

473
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 1: me that, and I think it's only certain players that

474
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 1: got that in them that can that can get that

475
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 1: out of us because we were similar. But Tim Duncan

476
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 1: able to work out with him and for him to

477
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 1: embrace me, that gave me confidence. You know what I'm saying,

478
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 1: That's what I needed. I wouldn't have been a professional.

479
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to show up. I didn't know

480
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 1: how to work, you know what I'm saying. I didn't

481
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 1: know how to get ready for games. You know what

482
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But she was talking about Lebron Tim Duncan

483
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 1: did that for me. Yeah, that's a that's a fact,

484
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,120
Speaker 1: like just being like overall being professional, Like I had

485
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 1: some really good vents, like you know, I always try

486
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: to preach the coming in all time and stuff like that,

487
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 1: but I was in uh, such bad cultures at times.

488
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 1: It was just like it ain't even like you're waiting

489
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 1: on me. I'm saying I could be if the buses

490
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 1: at ten, I could show up at twelve o five

491
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 1: and I'm still not the last person. I'm the third

492
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 1: to the fourth to the last person. So when I

493
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 1: go to somewhere else, it's twelve o five, but I

494
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 1: come down to the bus gone, It's like, oh this

495
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 1: is it's really left. Like now, I'm like, that's why

496
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 1: I always say winning started the top, and people like,

497
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 1: what does that mean. I mean it starts with the owner,

498
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: then it starts to management and starts to coaching. You

499
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 1: let sh slide and it starts getting slopping, and my

500
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 1: fun's gonna do what they do and they get comfortable

501
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,479
Speaker 1: on the in in that position, and then you just

502
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 1: you can't win in atmosphere like that. You can win games,

503
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 1: but you're not gonna win. You know what I mean

504
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 1: that's the thing. That's the thing. Like again, like you

505
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,640
Speaker 1: said with the Clippers, you're so talented. We have so

506
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 1: much talent. You can have some too much. Yeah, you

507
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 1: can have too much. You can definitely have We when

508
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 1: we gonna have practice, that ship was I can imagine,

509
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 1: like we got people trying to switch jerseys, man like,

510
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: going back and forth. But it's it's all in the

511
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 1: competitive We go to the lock, we talking, yeah, but

512
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: we was busting your grass that man. Y'all know how

513
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: to go. It's like it's at the end of the

514
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 1: day when we left, we all we all knew and

515
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: ask my motherucker, if we get out of here and

516
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: something happened, we all go on. You know what I'm said,

517
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: And that's how it was. That's how That's how it

518
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 1: should be all the time, all the time. What's your

519
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: relationship with Melolock. I think you guys are in a

520
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: similar boat right now. Two guys that could definitely have

521
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 1: the talent that you guys getting sucked over. Keep it real.

522
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: He get that phone call to the GM's doing Oh no, no, no.

523
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: They sign out a mass text with swish to do

524
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 1: not funk with him. Yeah, y'all stop all that hate. Man,

525
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: tell me what it's like knowing and seeing that you

526
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 1: can still play in the game but not really be

527
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 1: giving the opportunity. It hurts, man, it's just hardening. It

528
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: gives your uncomfortable feeling. But as they lead what I'm saying,

529
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: I could do what you want with it, I ain't.

530
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 1: I ain't here to tell you what I mean because

531
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: I got my business and all that, and you ain't

532
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: about to come over here and tell me what I'm

533
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: about to do, you know what I'm saying. So I

534
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,719
Speaker 1: respected from that manner, from the business standpoint. Um as

535
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: a competitive obviously you want to play. Obviously you're looking

536
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 1: down him when you still can. Yeah, I mean you

537
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 1: gotta like you gotta understand, Like you know, I play ball,

538
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: I go to I go to Jim in l A.

539
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: I go to Jim in Houston, I go to Jim Miami,

540
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: I go to Jim New York. What what the requid

541
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: tire is it? And I had no business playing, but

542
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 1: I just because I love it. Who you know what

543
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So in the midst of all of that,

544
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: and it sa't no no like no hating ship. It's

545
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 1: just a matter of fact, he not better than me,

546
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: He not better than me, He not better, he not better,

547
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: he not better than he not better than me, and

548
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: him in the back evening right, And then when people

549
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: look at me like, damn, you know you're really cocky,

550
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: like no, you know how much I work doing what

551
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 1: I do, And when I see him and I see

552
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: what they do, and I see thee just the way

553
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: they walking to him, the way they you're not you're

554
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: not even comfortable with being here, you know what I'm saying,

555
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: Like I can. You know, you smell blood all the time.

556
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: I know how. I know where the lights is on

557
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 1: this gym, I know where to I know who to

558
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: talk to. I know this whole, this whole atmosphere. So

559
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: when you're walking ahead and you're looking around, like who's

560
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: in here? I smell blood? I see it's you know,

561
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: you can't hide. It's a good feeling, especially to pick up.

562
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: Ain't no reps, ain't no coaches, ain't no you can't

563
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: hide here right here, this wing. That's why I was

564
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: looking at the books, and it was like they was

565
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: mad at him, saying double you know, y'all can't double,

566
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: Like bro, First of all, who was doubling you? Why

567
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: is it first? No, no, who who who was that?

568
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: I want to know who came to double? We need

569
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: to talk. Why is you double guard him? If I

570
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: don't care, if he'sco a hunted, take that. You guard

571
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: him time, you know how to go, and then when

572
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: you go to the other end, I'm going right back.

573
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, calling for double man. I wish

574
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: I wish I was. It's a different time there to

575
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: play one on one full quote. When I was in

576
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: Name to twelve, ain't no way, no way, bro. We

577
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: come up different though, man, John Lucas and all that man.

578
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: I was down there with Cotino Mobley, San Cansell, Steve Frands,

579
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 1: young boys, young boy funding, yes yo coming. Catino Mobley

580
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: was destroying me every single day in the workout me

581
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: to left hand, all that post uff and I'm bigging

582
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: him everything killing me. Yeah, young fella, get through that. Yeah,

583
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: get through that. Figure that out, and you know he

584
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: the ice King, will wait till he got your weight

585
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: all the way. He's strong as ship. Shout out. Cat

586
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: cat School was a killer killing a killer who was

587
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: the toughest person you ever had to guard. It's different

588
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: for me because I got like fortunately when you played,

589
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: I played long enough to when you played, you played

590
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: through errors. I can, I can go through like b

591
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: roy was a problem. People always talk about people always

592
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: talking about obviously Kobe and tax dollars, I always But

593
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: when you think about people who was a problem and

594
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: people who really don't really give the respect to understanding

595
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: he was a problem. Cat was a problem, a problem problem.

596
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: People don't even realize how much Caro Linker was a problem.

597
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: And it wasn't even like it wasn't even like he's

598
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 1: the guy. He was just a problem that nobody was

599
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 1: just awkward right like he like you never he was

600
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: just awkward dog. You couldn't get it, like you couldn't

601
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: figure him out. You could figure about my first game,

602
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: I actually played Reggie open Miller, but it probably wasn't

603
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: even know ice so bro. It was all picks Davis

604
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: every time, Young, listen, you gotta you gotta duck your shoulder,

605
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: then really hit you with the big and they and

606
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: they was moving back then there wasn't no not moving screen,

607
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: no no, no, no, you're going out of bounds and

608
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: it's Reggie, right young, don't say nothing to me. Let's go.

609
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 1: And I remember it funny. I actually hit Reggie in

610
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: two thousand nine because I had to guard Ray Island

611
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: with Boston when I was in Orlando. How do I

612
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: get around these picks? What kind of tricks? What do

613
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: I need to do? Because I couldn't stay with that

614
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: motherfucker And they said the perk was setting these hardass picks.

615
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: KG was setting these hard ass picks like and I

616
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: hear Reggie like, Yo, what do I need to do?

617
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: And he told me, you know, grab his jersey, grab

618
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: his arm for you, take off, stick to his body,

619
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: get low, cut the corner. So he was telling me

620
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: all the ship that you know, obviously people that try

621
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: to do to him, but that ship is that people't understand,

622
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: Like the game, you don't even have to be ISOs

623
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: just imagined practice. Every day I gotta chase his motherfucker

624
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: around because I'm the first I'm the first two guards,

625
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. This was last year, so

626
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: I got to chase him around every day in practice. Man,

627
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: that should get tired and it kills your offense because

628
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: you ain't got no legs. That's why I said, he

629
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,239
Speaker 1: in great shape. People don't understand how important Clay is

630
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: to go to state because staff don't have to do that.

631
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: He scored fifty something with with with three driven killer.

632
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: That's crazy killer. Two thousand eighteen, Game one of the finals. Uh,

633
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: you get the offensive rebound and driven towards half court.

634
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: Talk about that to me? What happened the play before

635
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: when it was a foul? Uh? Wasn't Lebron pastor George Hill? Yeah,

636
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: he was shooting free through and I'm I thought he

637
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: made both of them. He did, so I was like,

638
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: all right, bet, so next time George on the free

639
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: I'm alright, bet we get the ball. Ship. They're gonna

640
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, we called time out whatever, They're

641
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: gonna try to foul anyway, so we do we normally do.

642
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: It's alright, Bet to get the ball. Nobody called time

643
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: out something. Alright, Bet, I'm about your man, dribble it

644
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: back out. Then game game had to be over. I

645
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: look at Brian, Brian pointing like this, oh thiss be

646
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: like ship. I look over, oh man. And then after that,

647
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: I was just like, I know this ship ain't just happening.

648
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: I know this ship ain't just happened. Not in the finals,

649
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: not in the finals. It's about to beat these niggers

650
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: say with the box out, the box out looked at

651
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: you didn't expect to get that ball because you had

652
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: right there. There's no way he was getting no bullshit,

653
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: I was told. So I was so bet on going

654
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: the other way and trying to steal the rebound because

655
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, if the ball comes this when

656
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: I'm dead, an't. So I'm thinking, at the ball going

657
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: that way, I can at least at least try and

658
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: tip it somewhere right in your hands the way. Look,

659
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: the ball came right and I said, oh, ship crab

660
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: the ball alright, bet bro, we get to we get

661
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: to the time out. I can laugh about it now.

662
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: Hello it before you. How long did it take to

663
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: laugh about it? Because it was memes. It was all

664
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: over the world. It's gonna go down in here about

665
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: that ship that night. No, he did in the chat room,

666
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: he said, yourself, dude, Bro, I can't. I don't. I'm

667
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: not a person to hold onto ship. I'm not gonna

668
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: hold on to no grudges. No, I'm gonna I'll never

669
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: forget it, but I'm not gonna. Let's up, right up,

670
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: we all messed up. So what was the time out,

671
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: like man, when I tell you it was like Brian asked,

672
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: what was uh? Do we have a time? Oh? My good?

673
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: And nobody wanted to answer the question. I didn't want to.

674
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. I'm telling him all the way. But

675
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: what I'm telling him all the way to the bench.

676
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: We gotta time out, I said, Bro, why didn't you

677
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: just call it time out? Why don't just call it

678
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: time out? That's why we was talking about. But why

679
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: he was like walking to the bench. I'm like, he asked,

680
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: he said, we gotta time out. We gotta time out

681
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: when I tell you. So the players just looked away

682
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: and the coaching staff looked like they could turn spook.

683
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: Why does the ghost bro? I was like, oh shit,

684
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: I've replayed it. I was crying in my room. How

685
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: did how did he get the downy picker up a

686
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: paper towel like he has a house paper towel And

687
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: just when he found out that we had time I

688
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: was up. He put it on his hands and back

689
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: his face. Where did he get the down the quicker

690
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: picker up that he always because he all use the

691
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: regular towels, you know, so he has a roll a

692
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: quicker pickup down here on the side. It ain't down here.

693
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: It's like, I can't lie because I using weird, using

694
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: all the same towers and ship and you're trying to

695
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: wash them. I ain't trying with it. I saw that

696
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: though all the coaches were spooked. Don't want to say

697
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: an this is this is my thing though, like if

698
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: it was, if it's my fault and you want to

699
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: depend it on me, all right, cool free throws first,

700
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: He'll make the down free throws. Nothing, how man, that's

701
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: why it happens. I'm saying, That's why I ain't. I

702
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: can't be mad at him for making the free show.

703
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: We couldn't. We we didn't have to be in a

704
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: position to win the game. Had an incredible game, you

705
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,959
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I hit t Lou that night.

706
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, man, bro, I don't even know

707
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: what to say. He's like, Bro, what are you talking about.

708
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: You made the basketball play, it didn't work out and

709
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: you messed and it happens. I was like, yeah, bro,

710
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: but I should have shot the ball or whatever whatever

711
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: I said to him, and he was like, man, but

712
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: what if you didn't get the rebound? The game would

713
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: have been over anyway. So I was like, chat, when

714
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: I thought about that show, I was like, well, yeah,

715
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: you're right, there's so many ships that could have happened,

716
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: and what did happen? It happened and then we get

717
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: swept anyway, so it was like we got Okay, we

718
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: won one game, didn't want what is the difference? But

719
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: that game won bron That game he had, that's one

720
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: of the best games his career. For sure. Wow, for

721
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: sure wo, I would have changed the whole series of

722
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 1: if it wasn't fifth ye had ball, she'd be Grandpa something. Uh.

723
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: Then you know when we played, we took serious your style,

724
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: your culture. You know, you were the first one with

725
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: the supreme bands and then they said you can't wear

726
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: the band so you wouldn't got the tattoo on? Where

727
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: did your style and and and tattoos? And tell me

728
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: about that? I mean I grew up like you know,

729
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: like most you know, young African American kids come into

730
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: a lot of money. I ain't have a lot when

731
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: I met growing up and around the way, you know,

732
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: I got picked off anything I'm saying, except for my game.

733
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: The only thing they could really mess with me about

734
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: it closes this shoot at you if I ever come

735
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: into money, If I ever, I'm gonna get this. My

736
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: one thing. You can never tell tell me my crib,

737
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 1: my cars and my clothes and my I'm gonna be straight,

738
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then once I fell

739
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: into like, once I really understood who I am, I

740
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: was like, it just made it that much easy because

741
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: I'm comfortable in my skin and you know what I'm saying.

742
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: So people, so many people like, oh, why would you

743
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: wear this and that? Because I'm meeting That's why I

744
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: like what I'm saying. Don't I don't have to be

745
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: what you like. It's just I like it and I'm

746
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: comfortable with it. So people, that's what That's what fashion is.

747
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: It ain't like you're following the trend. Why do I

748
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: got to follow that trend? It's all it's a billion

749
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: other people out here that's gonna like what I like? Anyway?

750
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 1: Why do I gotta follow what you like? It ain't

751
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: what you got on? Is who got it on? How

752
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: you carry yourself with it? I mean, I ain't know

753
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: the person just walking around insecure and what I got

754
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: going on. I'm a dope asting I got going without

755
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: you telling me that what I was telling you, I'm gonna, yeah,

756
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: transition into something that that you touched on earlier. But

757
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: father life and we all, you know, kind of follow

758
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: your journey. We're praying for you with your with your

759
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: with your daughter that you went through a hard time with.

760
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: But tell me what it's like that situation and overall

761
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: just being a dad and the joy that you know

762
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: your kids bring to your life. Man, that's that situation

763
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: really molded me as a dad because it was like

764
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: it changed my changed my perspective and people, you know,

765
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: I told Brownness and I told somebody else to you

766
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 1: probably shouldn't say that again. I'm like, and I thought

767
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: about it, like, nah, Like bro, if if God forbid,

768
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: something happens to my daughter, I'm done. I don't want

769
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: to play ball no more. Like the hell with all

770
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: of this ship, I would you know what I'm saying.

771
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: And then over the course of time, she was getting better.

772
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: She was getting better, and luckily I had broke my thumb.

773
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: I brought my thumb in Milwaukee. Um so I had

774
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 1: already been out, but I was getting healthy at the time.

775
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 1: And then going through that situation, it was like one

776
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: day she's good, then the next day, she's back in

777
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: the You're back in the fire. But my thumb was

778
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: getting healthy. So it's you know, it's getting to that

779
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 1: time for me to start, you know, working back, working

780
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: my way back. Obviously we're going to the finals and

781
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: ship like that. And I was like, yo, if if

782
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: something happened, I'm like, I ain't. I'm done, Like y'all,

783
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: y'all can go ahead. You know, I ain't. I'm going

784
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: back to Jersey. We can set up shop maybe because

785
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't come back from this and to

786
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: go who And I'm saying, it's my daughter. What I'm

787
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: saying like this is it's different for me and the

788
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: way I came up with my brothers and sisters and

789
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: my cousins and everybody. So and I told somebody that

790
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: don't don't tell nobody that I don't tell me. And

791
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: I did an interview when I came back and she

792
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: made it out and I was like, yo, I'm I

793
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: would I was about to walk away, you know what

794
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I've been through instance where coaches and

795
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: I ain't had my I felt like I had my

796
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: fair shake, and know what I'm saying, I just felt

797
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: like I was getting overall cheated by the game for

798
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: the what I gave to it. But in that situation,

799
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 1: I didn't give a different you know what I'm saying,

800
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: you could have There's nothing that I could have. There's

801
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: nobody that I knew, and even if I did have

802
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: the amount of money that could have made her better,

803
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So when when I got

804
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 1: when I realized as that and I got again, somebody

805
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: like Brian, we know plenty of people with plenty of money.

806
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: He's just like, there's nothing that nobody There's nobody I

807
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 1: can call there, Nobody did nothing. If she gone didn't,

808
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: nobody got nothing. Can't nobody fix that? You know what

809
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 1: I'm saying. There was a real life thought because every

810
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 1: day you're having these conversations with the doctor. She having

811
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: this procedure. She gotta go through this, she gotta go

812
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: through that. I mean, my wife is just like, it

813
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: took a toll on this. There's too much of a

814
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: right and then it was hand yeah to handle, and

815
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: then you know, and then again the people forget. Now

816
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: you gotta be an athlete, Now you gotta play, you

817
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: gotta wear this poker face. He's not playing with this potential.

818
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: He's doing this, he's doing that. What's going on? How

819
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: about his daughter is in the hospital and he might

820
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: have something else going on it or not. It just

821
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: might Know what I'm saying, People really think that you're

822
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: just supposed to play through it all and well, she'll

823
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 1: be okay, but go out there and win us a game.

824
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: Who the fund is us? Right? Us? How can you

825
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: mentally go back to that stage? It's not possible. You can't.

826
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: So how much you're paying me or whatever and that

827
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: if that's the case. Ship, But after, I mean, thank god,

828
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: she's doing she's doing man, she too. She walking and

829
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: she's trying to she's not she's not talking yet, but

830
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: she's doing a little sign language and stuff. He posted

831
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: a picture and recently at both of them, manute beautiful

832
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 1: bank sisters. We had another one. How you got four

833
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: four girls? All girls? I got five girls in the

834
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: one roof though, right? My five guess one? Man? It's

835
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: it's it's cool because I'm already telling me all the time.

836
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: Like she asked me, if you want to boy, how

837
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: you want to boy? I said, baby, you want to

838
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: you want of the guys? True? I ain't tripping I

839
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: got four girls, right, what's five gonna do for me?

840
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: But help me? You know what I'm saying, And the

841
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: day and age that we live in and the females

842
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: around in this industry an area, I need to have

843
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: six seven girls because they nobody gonna raise these girls

844
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: the way I'm raising, like you can't. For the culture,

845
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: we need more young African American, powerful young black women,

846
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I know that I

847
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: could provide and be that male figure in their life

848
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: where they can be that and they can do that

849
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: and then we can prosper as a as a culture.

850
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It ain't just about man,

851
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 1: what about such a such Are you going suche's gonna

852
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 1: be messing with your daughter? The bro? You simple mind?

853
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 1: If I raised my daughter the right way, I never

854
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: got to worry about that, you know what I'm saying.

855
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: People don't. It's not like the fact that that you

856
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: would think about that sort like what did you you

857
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: know what, having a good day? But I don't even

858
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: think like that. You know, have a good day? Bro?

859
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: Raised you boys raised you. What's the best part about

860
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: being a dad to you? Best part? Man? Every time?

861
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 1: I walk in the house, is Christmas? Girl? I'm right,

862
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: it's different. You're trying to put the game all right,

863
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shoot these hoops. See my girl, bro, and

864
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: they like like my oldest she's she's just like her mother.

865
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: She like. I'll be in the house chilling, playing the

866
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: video game something and she's coming around, Hey, daddy, what's

867
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 1: going on? How you doing? I'm good, but it was

868
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: good none. I just want to check on you need anything,

869
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: you want something to drink something like, nah, but I'm good.

870
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: Appreciate it all right. I'll be over here. Hit me.

871
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 1: I bet I get off the game and this game

872
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: maybe what's up? Like what I'm saying, I just like

873
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: like that is just like it's irreplaceable. So when people like, yo,

874
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: you want to play again. But I'm having so much

875
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: fun with my kids, Bro, I don't. We don't never

876
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: get this time. You don't get it back. I mean,

877
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,959
Speaker 1: that's why I walked away. People don't realize that signed

878
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: a three year contract in Sacramento to kind of finished

879
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: my career out. They trade Boogie. We have talks. I'm

880
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: trying to win and I'm going to the Warriors. We

881
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: win and with two more years left on my deal.

882
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: I missed my kids. You mean, I was going through

883
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: some ugly ship where I wasn't get to see my

884
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: kids as much. Like you don't get none of this

885
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: time back, none of this time back, you know what

886
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: I mean. So that's why I chose to walk away

887
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 1: after fourteen years, was because, like my boys are seven

888
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: a nine, they're about to be eleven, and in a

889
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, like this is when they need me

890
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: the most, you know what I mean. So, like you said,

891
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: to be able to humanize us and let people know

892
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: like we we were regular dudes. We just happened to

893
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: to do something really well and get paid a lot

894
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: of money for it. Don't take us. It don't make

895
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 1: us any different from the the day in, day out ship.

896
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: We gotta deal with life in general. It's tough, exactly.

897
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: It's just that I'm really good at a job that

898
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: everybody a lot of people like that paves me a

899
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: lot of money from Still, I mean, it doesn't make

900
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: me no better than the teacher or a doctor who

901
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: out there saving lives. Y'are actually teaching the kids, actually

902
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: giving my kids knowledge that I'm supposed to trust and

903
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: believe that that they're gonna use this going forward. Y'all

904
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: played just as a bunch of the biggest roles as

905
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: we do, and it needs to be the same. People

906
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 1: will be like, oh, I don't understand why he gets

907
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: in it. Like, bro, Like, it ain't my fault, it's

908
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: just the way life is, the way you go. All right,

909
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: We're gonna hit you with some quick takes. Uh. Just

910
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: first thing that comes to your mind golf. I hear

911
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: you love golf. Tell me about golf, aren't you? How

912
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: did you get started with that most Malone? What's really

913
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: rest in peace? Yeah? Charlot Lewis Um he had a

914
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: golf out in Texas, this first one, and he's like, yo,

915
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: come through you let me show love. And I can

916
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: say this, but I was singing at the tour um,

917
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: so he was out there chilling and Ship, I'm messing

918
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: with the card girls taking shots. I ain't played golf

919
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 1: at the time, and so I'm messing with everybody group

920
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: dudes hitting the ball in the water, hitting it in

921
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: the woods. I'm like, man, I don't ask Ship as

922
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: he so most more, I pull up a most Malone

923
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: group that man, y'all fella come at this ball. I'm like, man,

924
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: I guess hall of famers. I don't. That's one thing

925
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: I don't do Hall of famers, and I don't disrespect them.

926
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: And they tell me to do something, I'm gonna them.

927
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: Just go to the stand and give me a hot

928
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: the I got you. You know what I'm saying. So

929
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: he's like, I was all right, get up there, hit

930
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 1: the ball three hunt yards down the first time. She's like, man,

931
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: something that ship easy to get. Give him. Throw the

932
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: club back, getting the golf cart. Pull off that I

933
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: was saying, take some riding around, talking again. Pull up

934
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: on this group again, and fella, come hit this ball again,

935
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: he's telling people and ship. Now it's like a little crowd.

936
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: I get up there. I couldn't hit the ball, bro,

937
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 1: I couldn't hit the ball. After that, I was hooked.

938
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: I went to the girlf store, got like three sets

939
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: of club I'm gonna get this ship for sure. And

940
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: then we're playing every sinse You went on some kind

941
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: of tours. There's some of the golf courses, right yeah, yeah,

942
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: what kind? What? What? What? What? Good courses? You hit

943
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: like this in count nas and has a few courses

944
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: and I play all the San fran Courses, Coyle Club,

945
00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: San Francisco Golf Club. Damn, what a hardened park. And

946
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: it's uh, I want to spin an Oregon. So they

947
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: called it the Solstice. It's called Ben and Delons. They

948
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: got uh four the top one courses at the same spot.

949
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: But the Solstice, you gotta It's supposed to be the

950
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 1: longest day of the year, so you play golf from

951
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 1: sun up to sundown. So he played seventy two holes,

952
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: walked the whole time. Walk So we set off like

953
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: five forty walked off, walked off at like exhausted. No, no,

954
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: people understand that you played that mental focus. It's with draine.

955
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: I need a quarter pound to make it through that

956
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: whole q P pack of back was all eight packs,

957
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: but I need them all fresh. I don't need the

958
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: ones with the stems in it. I need the fresh pack,

959
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: but all five of them. You know what I mean.

960
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: I don't need to have no goods. No I QP.

961
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: I can make it through seventy two holes. I don't

962
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 1: care where that ball go after that. At the half

963
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: of the QP better but better golf for your stuff stuff. Yeah, yeah,

964
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: he could he could play. I played with a while

965
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: ago that at CP wedding, but he got so much

966
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: better even since then. He could play the Will could play,

967
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: Ray could play Jay Kidd, Kyle Corey is really good.

968
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah when did you? What age did you get your

969
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: first tattoo? I was fifteen, my sister. I didn't even

970
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: want to get one at first. My sister wanted to

971
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: get one and she was looking not scared of ships.

972
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: I was like, ah, I go with you, and my

973
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: mom took us some ship when her when I heard

974
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: people's uh, some biker dude new did tax and ships,

975
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: so he tattered us up and like two weeks later

976
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: I went back. We got my other side, because you

977
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: know you're in high school. Ship, you get your tat

978
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: you want it. Yes, you got to join out. Everybody

979
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: was loving. I was like, nah, nah, I'm going back

980
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: for sure. It was over. It was over. You're coming

981
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: in them now right, Yeah, I'm I'm working on my legs. Now,

982
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: what's your most painful tattoo? They looked like that shin.

983
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you got ship. I'm coming up on his knee. Broe,

984
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: I'm cool, on. I want to do my legs, but

985
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to get the unnecessary pain like on

986
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: the knee caps. Now that I ain't that's what I

987
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: ain't going. That's all I ain't going to the knees.

988
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 1: Ain't much here, But you know it's crazy, it's easier

989
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,959
Speaker 1: for like, the healing process here is so much better.

990
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: And where the number ship that who got? Whoever got

991
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: the number? Ship that worked? Man? All the smokes sending

992
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: me something. I ain't trying to be superhero and gangster

993
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: me and I took man, listen, where the numb and

994
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 1: ship that I needed? Bro, there's a lot of people

995
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 1: out here who was flamed up, tatted, who went through

996
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: that another cream. But I don't feel bad. Yeah, I'm

997
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: trying to numb myself. I want to put me out

998
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: and just to me talk, you gotta wake me up

999
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: swimming that I just got the nip done in my

1000
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: hand and I'm an hour and a half before because

1001
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: I got ready to first day. I said, oh, man,

1002
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: like the motherfucker my hand. I think my ribs and

1003
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 1: my elbow were probably the worst. Just a numbing cream

1004
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: and was not hurt. Bro. You know what's you know

1005
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: what's funny. I was Chuck came to the team. I

1006
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: was I was. I was. I kept asking them, like, yo, bro,

1007
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: your hands hurt, Like what's that joint? It was like

1008
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,919
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, man, my hands hurt. But the dude

1009
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 1: ain't do how I wanted it. And I was like, why,

1010
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: I bet it's at the practice one day. So the

1011
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: next day we got we got a game. We play

1012
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: a Sacramento and and then I go to the tax

1013
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: shoe shop at like seven to do this hand go

1014
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: to practice lead a tech shop due to the other hand,

1015
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: go played the game. I tell you my hands forty

1016
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 1: did you killed only only switch on your tattoo time

1017
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: the boy touched my hand, My hands was hurting so

1018
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: bad from the past for sure that it was going unconscious.

1019
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: Unconscious there's too many beans. But you got a lot

1020
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 1: of beans in your hand. Man, I know that ship hurt.

1021
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 1: I'm cool on that. Michael Kobe, Mike, Michael is always

1022
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: my I mean Kobe. I think Kobe was more polished,

1023
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: but Mike was just wrong killer killer. It's hard for

1024
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: like you can't That's like, that's like asking Bruce Lee

1025
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: or the I P man gotta go I P because

1026
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: he taught Bruce said so he the masters as much

1027
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: as he wanted to be him. He can't never begin

1028
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: because I thought you everything right, right, what I'm saying right,

1029
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: So it's like I don't know. I get it's tough

1030
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: Braun and Kobe. See I've been in the trenches with

1031
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: bron Um, So in that respect, I would say bront

1032
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: the mindset and all of that. I love Kobe. See,

1033
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 1: I'm the other way with code Maude, that's what set

1034
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 1: him apart and seeing his work ethic. I'm the other way,

1035
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I think Kobe is is a

1036
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: you know, a step ahead to me. It's you know,

1037
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 1: Mike Kobe Braun. But Braun is right there with Kobe

1038
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: to me, you know what I mean. But like you said,

1039
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: because you went to world one of them, I been

1040
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: the world with Kode. It's it's seeing I called it

1041
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: a beautiful mind crazy, you know, obsessed whatever maybe and

1042
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: made them who they are a couple of times, it's

1043
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: like it's like when it's like when you watched watching

1044
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: them play, It's like it's like watching him paint this.

1045
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: I've seen him to do. The joint was like, uh

1046
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: slowed up and then like watching it you can put

1047
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: music behind it is watching the artists paint is one

1048
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: of the most beautiful things ever as you get to

1049
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: see you don't know where they're going with it, and

1050
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: you can just and at the end of the picture,

1051
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: just like damn, he watched Brian played like, you know,

1052
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 1: I don't know how he's doing it or where he's

1053
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: going with it, but and then you look up. He

1054
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: got forty fifteen seventeen six steals and we just barely

1055
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: want crazy And the only reason why we wanted because

1056
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: he did some off the wall, shake the ship and

1057
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: one hand lefty. That only comes from greatness, the only,

1058
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: the only way. If anybody else shot that shot in

1059
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: that arena, we could have went through all two thousand

1060
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: of them others. He's the only person I've made it. Yeah,

1061
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's just you see that

1062
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: day in and day out, and then you see the

1063
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: determination behind it to do it day in and day out,

1064
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: every single days became Yeah. I mean when I walk

1065
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: in the gym, I love like people. I love to

1066
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: see somebody else working because I need that. So when

1067
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: I go now it's my I'm gone. I'm saying. People

1068
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: are like, oh, you go to lifetime. I need to

1069
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: see that because somebody else is working when I'm just

1070
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 1: sitting there talking to you. You know what I'm saying.

1071
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: And for me as a competitor, I never want somebody

1072
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: else to have one up on me. If if if

1073
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: I go to the gym right now, right and I

1074
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: know he'd been in the gym all day, every day

1075
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: all summer and I'm sporadically throughout the week's uh, I

1076
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 1: know that he's gonna have a better chance of busting

1077
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: my ass. So why would I give him the opportunity

1078
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: He's gonna he's gonna take full advantage of ship. I

1079
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: know I would. I'm damn sure going to you better

1080
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: believe it. Everything is coming out of the trick back everybody.

1081
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: I had a chance to do this in the season

1082
00:53:55,160 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: either getting it now and it's gonna work. I believe it. Craziest.

1083
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: We'll wrap after this craziest story you could tell us

1084
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: about throughout your career that stands out. Craziest story. You know,

1085
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta. You asked somebody like us that question,

1086
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:26,439
Speaker 1: Ship which one? I got? Nothing kind of mind? Last

1087
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: night the week before that ship I got so visy, man,

1088
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 1: you get so many playing with dude, like bro for me.

1089
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: I played with bet as a young boy, as a

1090
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 1: young boy, be in the boot, C p Oh Mellow,

1091
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: Chauncey A kalmar m c Amari Jay Kid, I mean,

1092
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,919
Speaker 1: Brian Kyrie, Kay Love. I played with so many people.

1093
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: It's just like that experience that's good good, I'm saying. Yeah,

1094
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of them. If I never played

1095
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: another game again, I like I talked to I was

1096
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: talking to Samazelle last night. Man, He's like, one thing

1097
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: you count took. The only thing you can take it

1098
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: away from this game is your money and your memories. Yeah,

1099
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that. The one thing if

1100
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna take anything away from this game is your

1101
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,760
Speaker 1: money and your memories. So you really need I remember

1102
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: going in the locker room with these dudes every day,

1103
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: going to war and all of that ship, and I

1104
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: loved every minute of it. I'm not and I don't

1105
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: regret none of them because I know when I was

1106
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: out there, what y'all, I gave y'all everything I had,

1107
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: and if it wasn't good enough time ship, it just

1108
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: didn't wasn't good enough, y'all. Google. I have to accept

1109
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: it because the Dansher wasn't good enough for me at

1110
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: times when I was bringing my ship, he wasn't. So

1111
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: it just is what it is, what I'm saying, Yes, sir,

1112
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: we appreciate you man. You know that, you know that.

1113
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 1: Appreciate you coming, my boy. That's a wrap man episode

1114
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 1: one in the can j R. Smith. We appreciate you.

1115
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,439
Speaker 1: Hopefully see you on the on the court man. Yeah,

1116
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: you gotta keep us updated. Man, the Laker sign you.

1117
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: We know you're about to buy a house out of

1118
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 1: here anyway, so Lakers you might as well. He's here.

1119
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I'm gonna work out anyway. Free Jr.

1120
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: Free mellow. We'll see y'all next week. M hm m

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Speaker 1: m m