1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. 3 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: I am Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson. We just 4 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: went over the over unders for all the uh the 5 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: NFL teams there on. That's the ESPN pig skim win totals. 6 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: You can go jump into that little um Yeah, an 7 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: interesting little tournament thing. Yeah, we should. We should maybe 8 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: create a little room in there for ourselves and have 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: a little maybe a little battle, yeah, a little thing 10 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: against them, maybe opening up for fans to do it 11 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: as well. Maybe you're getting really ambitious here, you know. 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: I mean, hey, if it's something like that that we 13 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: can do and we don't have to track anything, it's 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: already tracked for us, right beautiful. Hey, I had no 15 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: problem with that. Uh. This leads me to a quick story. 16 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: I have to tell you you're familiar with my son, 17 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: young Michael, who's seen and very sports oriented, smart guy. 18 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: Could you could easily do what I do for a 19 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: living times ten down the road. I mean, he's got 20 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: all kinds of patent joan, all of his brains from 21 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: his mother and looks lucky for him. So he takes 22 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: it upon himself to contact my aunt's uncle, sister, parents, 23 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: cousins that he's going to organize a n c A 24 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 1: tournament bracket. But outside, like my dad and four other 25 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: of us, no one knew how to do it online. 26 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: So Mike had them all fill it out, stick it 27 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: in the mail with a check, and he had the 28 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 1: right chart him all down. Let's say that he's never 29 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: going to do that again. Like all my seven year 30 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: old you know, aunt just couldn't figure it out, and 31 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: you know, she asked some things like, well what if 32 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to pick a champion and he's he 33 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: just lost his mind. He will not do that again 34 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: by hand. Okay, what I thought we would do in 35 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: this segment at we didn't really do this is go 36 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: over the first round of the draft and talk about this, 37 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: uh how it went, where it kind of went sideways, 38 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: where things might have changed for the Steelers. Uh So 39 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: so let's go ahead, and because you know, when it 40 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: was all happening in real time when we were on 41 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: the air, you really couldn't necessarily you gotta reflect on 42 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: these things to see trends and what teams are thinking 43 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: and that type of thing too. Yeah, So Trayvon Walker 44 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: goes one to the Jaguars. That wasn't a surprise. We 45 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: all kind of knew that was gonna happen. There's room 46 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: for error there though, that might not work out. Yeah, right, 47 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: same thing with Aidan Hutchinson at two out of Michigan 48 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: goes to Detroit. Yeah, a safer pick. I think. I 49 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: think he's he's you know what he is. Yeah, they 50 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: ran it to the podium, which I'm sure that you know. 51 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: And honesty, the first seven names here are the right 52 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: seven names in some different orders. Yeah, I think the order. 53 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: The first real surprise was only at three by Houston 54 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: over Gardner. Yeah, although like two days before they get it, 55 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: that leaked like crazy. And I honestly think Stingley and 56 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: Gardner are the best two players in the draft. So 57 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: I preferred Gardener because there's less risk. But I get it, 58 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: you know, right, Yeah, I mean that's yeah, Then nobody's 59 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: gonna argue that those were you know, because Gardner went 60 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: next to the Jets. I mean those two belong in 61 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: those spots. A little nugget here though, is again I 62 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: thought Gardener's best player in draft, so I'm not blaming them, 63 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: but because it's a Niners Roberts Sala type defense. I 64 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: thought they would go pass rusher Thibodeau over corner, which 65 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: then leads us to the Giants at five, who then 66 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: take Thibodeau. And I think they would have rather gone 67 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: corner with the Ravens winked Martindale system, you know. So 68 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: there was no wrong answers, but I was a little 69 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: shocked the Jets philosophically went for the cover guy and 70 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: said the pass rusher, and then that four the Giants 71 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: to do the same, because the Giants knew they were 72 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: to get a stud defensive player in an offensive lineman. 73 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: So the fact that two corners are off the board 74 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: when you go into the clock at five makes you say, well, 75 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a tackle. At seven, they're all still there. Yeah, 76 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: I might as well take the pass rusher here, even 77 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: if I have a higher grade on Nei or at Juan. Right, 78 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: So Thibodeaux goes into the Giants at five at Kawan, 79 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: who goes at six to the Panthers. That's where everybody 80 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: was thinking, well, Kenny Pickett could go at six, and 81 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: I honestly thought that somebody would look to trade up, 82 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: perhaps with the Panthers thinking that maybe things would go 83 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: similar to this, and so one of those teams that 84 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: was sitting there that maybe wanted to you know, a study, 85 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: you know, that we want to get the best offensive 86 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: lineman in this draft. Maybe they go up to six 87 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: to do that. And if if the Panthers were thinking 88 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: quarterback there, they might trade back a little bit and 89 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: still take their quarter act. See what. We'll never know, 90 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: but I don't think it's crazy to say. Is Kenny 91 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: Pickett could have been in the Panthers top six, no doubt, 92 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? But they go Kawana was 93 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: definitely in their top three, but he's one, very very 94 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: well could have been one. Yes, right, because they're not 95 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: going on any of those defensive players. Probably I bet 96 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: he's one. Yeah, you might be right there because they 97 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: weren't taking a cornerback probably not right. Their path rush 98 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: is good the right right, so yeah, you maybe you 99 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: may very well be right. Um you know, So that 100 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: was that to me. I thought the Saints might be 101 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: a team that would move up to get one of 102 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: those offensive tackles since they had the two picks they got. 103 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: They don't talk about them in a minute, but yeah, 104 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: I have some things to say about them, but they 105 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: didn't move up for a lot of it, you know, 106 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: right right. Evan Neil then goes at seven to the Giants, 107 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: which is a slam donkey, easy one. You do the 108 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: math when you're at five, going, we're gonna get at 109 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: Orneil so great. Then the Falcons take Drake London out 110 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: of USC the wide receiver. They have a wide receiver 111 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: body type that they seem to like. The like the 112 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: tall line of guys they do. I'll be going back 113 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: to Jlio, you know. I mean there's certainly a type 114 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: back before that, Roddy White. Yeah. Um, London is not 115 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: the eighth player in the draft for me, but London 116 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: and Pitts for the next five years or so is 117 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: something to build on. You know. That's a nice nest 118 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: piece for the next next quarterback. Yeah, no, I agree. 119 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: I agree. Then Charles cross goes at nine to the 120 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. The people saying that Charles crossing stock is 121 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: draft dropping he saw him going in the twenties and 122 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: things like that. That wasn't happening. No, I thought they might, 123 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: you know, think their own way and go penning the 124 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: bruiser over the path over the past blocker. But I 125 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: think this is clearly the an easy pick for them. Yeah, 126 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: at ten, that said go for Garrett Wilson. They were 127 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: the team that was that was rumored to be really 128 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,799 Speaker 1: hot on Drake London. Supposedly they put in a strong 129 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: effort to get Debo with this pick to the tenth 130 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: pick plus something. The Niners turned them down. You know, 131 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: receivers are going quick here, like if you're the and 132 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: obviously they like Jermaine Johnson and probably more than the 133 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: rest of the league. I'm sure they looked at it 134 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: like we have a corner, and we have and we 135 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: have a corner, and we're not going to get receivers 136 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: at the pace these guys are starting to come off 137 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: the board. And they have been right because receivers were 138 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: I don't say receivers are overdrafted, but this was an 139 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: uncanny run between eight and like eighteen. Yeah, because the 140 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: next two picks were traded up for Crystal Lava at 141 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: eleven by the Saints. That's not for me. Yeah, I 142 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: don't get that one at all. Did you know chrysal 143 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: Lava has the same wingspan as Um Austin, who the 144 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: Steelers took in the fourth round in Austin is really 145 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: Austin is five FT's eight and is a small built guy. 146 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: I mean, like I I this is where the Commanders 147 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: were originally, and I said this pre draft, so I'm 148 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: not talking about about my butt here. I mean, I 149 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: think Dots and the Lava are almost the same guy 150 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: to me, and I might even rather have thoughts. And 151 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: it's also hadn't done. Um I need to find it 152 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: on Twitter, but anybody could do it pretty easily. But 153 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: when you look at the trades, the Saints made this 154 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: one to get a Lava in addition to the pre 155 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: draft trade for the Eagles. It's an ungodly combined haul 156 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: for crystal Lava. I mean it's multiple firsts and thirds 157 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: and like Holy Cow and Crysala. I will throw this 158 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: in and I didn't put tune two together on it. 159 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 1: I always think Ohio State and the Saints. There's obviously 160 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: a connection there, but I guess the Saints GM drafted 161 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: Brian Heartline, who's the Ohio statewide receiver coach. Okay, I mean, 162 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: so there's good intel they're in a pick it like manner, 163 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean I love a Lave at eleven 164 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: for multiple first round picks. Detroit then traded up at 165 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: from the bottom of the the first round all the 166 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: whip to twelve with the vikings of all teams to 167 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: get Jamison Williams. Yeah, and we thought that was gonna 168 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: be Willis or the quarterback, but the receiver run was 169 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: real and these guys need real, you know, foundation pieces. 170 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: I like that move for the Lions. Yeah. At thirteen, 171 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: the Eagles trade up and take Jordan Davis, getting ahead 172 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: of Baltimore. My take on that is the league love 173 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: Jordan Davis. It wasn't. He's just a nose that doesn't 174 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: do anything else. I think he was commented in the 175 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: whole world knew it. If you were in the in 176 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: the Ravens draft room and you saw the Eagles do 177 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: that and go up and get Jordan Advis. I know 178 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: they've got Kyle Hamilton's with the next pick. Which one 179 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: would you rather have for their defense? Davis? Because they 180 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: drafted Jones later. I mean there, they clearly they showed 181 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: that they agreed hole there. Yeah, yeah, I agree, So 182 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: that didn't exactly work out the way I think that 183 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: they wanted. I think Hamilton's wonderful console nice Constellation prize. Absolutely, 184 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: especially because you had so many other picks in your 185 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: back pocket. What happened to do other things? Yeah, so 186 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: you could take a punter in the fourth round, right, Uh? 187 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: Fifteen Houston takes Kenyan Green. They traded up to do 188 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: that too, right, No, they traded back. That was the 189 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: that was the thirteen pick. They moved back and took 190 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: Kenyan Green. So if they were going to do that, 191 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: I get it, you could probably traded back even farther 192 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: on gotting Kenyan Green, especially with Zion still on the 193 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: board too. I mean, is there a discernible difference between 194 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: those guys? I agree with that. Um. I heard Lanzerline, 195 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: who's a Houston guy, on the air today saying Kenyan 196 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: Green was his best player or whatever. But he said, 197 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: this team needs to run the football. You know, they 198 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: drafted a back. We didn't know that at the time 199 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,119 Speaker 1: in the first round. But for them to be successful, 200 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: they have to create some kind of running games. So 201 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: I guess that kind of adds up. Yeah, Uh, it's 202 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: sixteen them. Washington, which moved back, takes John Dawson again early, 203 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: but we're not going to get him in the second round. 204 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: The receivers are dried up. Yeah, they're flying off the board. 205 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: I think he's a really good player, Like I would 206 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 1: have considered him a twenty. It's seventeen. The Chargers kind 207 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: of go off to board here a little bit. Everybody said, oh, 208 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: they're they're taking a tackle. They got to get a tackle. 209 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: They take his eye on Johnson at seventeen and you 210 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: brought this up a few times. Does that mean Filer 211 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: goes to right tackle? That's the beauty of Matt Filery. 212 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: I mean, hey, they can play Zion Johnson at right 213 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: tackle too. They could. They could write. I mean, I 214 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: just said, played left the best of a lineman on 215 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: the board, you know. So they just grabbed mared physical 216 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: all that stuff a little undersize. That's the only the 217 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: only problem. So yeah, I mean think I think you 218 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: you look at it. So we could either bump Filer 219 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: out there, or we can put the zie on Johnson 220 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: out there. Either way, Scion Johnson's a ten twelve year 221 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: starter in the NFL. It's gonna be a good player. Yeah, yeah, 222 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: I agree. He was one of the safer picks in 223 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: this draft. In the first round at eighteen, the Titans 224 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: move up but not for a quarterback. The Titans move up. 225 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: Listen where they traded aj where they traded A. J. Brown. Yeah, 226 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: and they take his replacement Trailers and they're hoping to 227 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 1: God that it's Stefon Diggs for Justin Jefferson. Yeah. No, 228 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: chances of that happening are about one percent. That hate birds. 229 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, I would consider births a twenty, 230 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: but that that Jefferson Diggs trade is a rarity, folks. 231 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: So all that wide receiver movement ahead of the Stealers 232 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: with no quarterbacks taken, they're sitting there right now going, Okay, 233 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna get our guy, probably unless their guy was 234 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: Bert or Wilson or I don't think I don't think 235 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: it was. I mean, the next receiver off the board 236 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: is all the way at thirty four. So if we 237 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: seever was in your plan at twenty, well you've got 238 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: to change that plan. Yeah. The next pick for the 239 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: Saints and was Trevor Penning, putting the Steelers on the clock. 240 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: Of course, we know they took Kenny Pickett, and the 241 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 1: people are saying the Steelers, well, they could have moved 242 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: down and taken Kenny Pickett. You don't know that then 243 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: though you don't know that, because you still don't know 244 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 1: that now, right, you know, if you start looking, um, 245 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: there are some teams that that could have jumped up 246 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: and taken Picket. I mean, I think there's a very 247 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: good chance that the basically the entire league had him 248 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: his quarterback one and then there was a gap. And 249 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: if that's true, he's not gonna last much longer. He 250 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: may not be the next pick, but he wouldn't have 251 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: lasted that much longer. Yeah, the chief the Chiefs came 252 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: up and took Trent McDuffie at twenty one. Now, wouldn't 253 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: have if you wouldn't have taken Picket, would you take 254 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 1: a McDuffie. Looking at the picks after that, I'm so 255 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: a considered Dixon Hill. I would have considered Jaxon Hiller 256 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: McDuffie's again, I look at him and Zion Johnson. Trent 257 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: McDuffie and Zion Johnson. I say that those guys are 258 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: almost the same. There there bus proof. I think I agree, 259 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: And I always say, no Wayami's in round one. Well, 260 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: those guys aren't Miami's. Yeah, I mean, they're gonna be 261 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: good football players. Maybe they'll never be all pro or 262 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: anything like that. They're gonna be very solid above average 263 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: starters in the NFL. I like that pick for the 264 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: Chiefs so too. I think they traded up to get him. 265 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: They traded they moved up to get him. So the 266 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: Steelers probably could have traded down with Kansas City, But 267 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: did you want to go all the way down to 268 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: that allows a lot the gaps for people to jump 269 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: you all those bad second round teams could have traded 270 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: a first round pick next year, you know. Yeah, So 271 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: I'm not making that move. If Kenny pickets your he's 272 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: your best guy. And on the Steelers board, I'm gonna bet. 273 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: I think on my final board, I think I had 274 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett at I believe someone in that range. So 275 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: if you get thirteen twenty you're happy. Yeah, you could 276 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: take that every year. Whoever thirteen is. Um we mentioned 277 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: McDuffie quay Walker than the surprise pick at twenty two 278 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: by the Packers who trade. Yeah, I assume they would 279 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: have liked to take the receiver despite their history, but 280 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: there's no chance there nobody left. Yeah, the Bills that 281 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: moved up to get Cayer Elam, now maybe that maybe 282 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: you look at going back to where the Bills were at. 283 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe, maybe they preferred McDuffie and wanted to get 284 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: to twenty maybe. Yeah, you know, hypothetical is another one 285 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: really mark guy, that's gonna be a solid pick for them. Yeah, 286 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: but if if pick it's your guy, you don't want 287 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: to go back to and again give one of those 288 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: teams at the top of the second round an opportunity 289 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: to get ahead of you. Yeah. Yeah, fo Dallas takes 290 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: Tyler Smith. Little. We did a on our podcast today, 291 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: We're going Division Division Today was the first one and 292 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: we did Dallas, so I did a little more research. 293 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: I don't dislike the pick, don't get me wrong, but 294 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: the big negative on him, despite being rob but going 295 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: hand in hand with him being raw, a lot of 296 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: penalties for Tyler Smith. Yes, well, Dallas was the most 297 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: penalized team in the league last year by far, and 298 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: they go get the penalty machine on the offensive live like, yeah, 299 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: well a lot of those Connor McWilliams or whatever, Connor Williams. 300 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: Connor Williams had like seven teen penalties last year. Smith 301 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: bight of eighteen this year. Yeah, so he trained at 302 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: twenty five. Then the Ravens with no receivers on the 303 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: there's nobody there with the wide receiver position you're gonna take, 304 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: so they can't take him. Watson over him or Pickens 305 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: is the one. I bet people kicked around though. I 306 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: mean that's not being a homer, but I I mean 307 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: that that if they if Pickens fell there, I would 308 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: have been like, that makes sense. Yeah, they take Tyler 309 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: linder Bomb instead. Um, Again, a good football player has 310 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: to be in the right fit. That's a good offense 311 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: for him to be in. I agree, because they're not 312 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: gonna lie. You know, they're not gonna throw the ball, 313 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: you know, Tyler Linderbaum to the Chiefs for example. Everybody's 314 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: talking about, you know, last year, but the Chiefs did 315 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: it center with Creed Humphrey. Tyler Linderbaum would not fit 316 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: with the Chiefs at all, or the Bills or the 317 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: Bills or these teams are you know, they want to 318 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: throw the ball forty five times a game to get 319 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: run over on his way to the quarterballe you know, 320 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: you put Cam Heyward over top of Tyler linder Bomb 321 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: and he's gonna throw him into the quarterback. Yeah, oh yeah, Yeah, 322 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: that's gonna be an issue, especially a long on Cam 323 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: would be like the worst batch up for he rush 324 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: him the whole way back. Which Ravens are The Ravens 325 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: are going to throw the football agains the Steelers in 326 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 1: the next couple of years at some point. Yeah, um, 327 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: twenty six, the Jets get Jermaine Johnson. People were talking 328 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: about Jermaine Johnson. He's gonna go higher than than people think. 329 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: He went lower then. I think a lot of people think. 330 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: Here's what I heard about that after the fact was 331 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: everyone had him as like the ninth tense player on 332 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: their big board because it was a pretty poor secret 333 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: that the Jets and the Seahawks love this guy and 334 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 1: neither one took him. But maybe only two teams loved 335 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 1: this guy. Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, that's 336 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: where they were picking at. Everybody just assumed they said 337 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: he didn't interview particularly well either. Okay, Jacksonville trades up 338 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: to take Devin Lloyd. Lloyd's a good player, He's worth 339 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: that pick. I don't know if that's a move I 340 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 1: would have made. The they signed the Falcons linebacker whose 341 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: name I can't pronounce, to a lot of money, and 342 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: then a couple of rounds later they drafted a linebacker, 343 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: Like I know they they see good football players and leaders, 344 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: but they need everything to know. I agree, and the 345 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: Packers take Devonte Wyatt the defensive tackle on a Georgia. 346 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: It's a pretty nice pair of Georgia front seven guys. Yeah. 347 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: At twenty nine, after moving back, the Patriots take Cold Strange. 348 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: Talk about strange, strange, strange days. Um, people are strange. 349 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: The still I'm gonna go check the benefits. I'm below 350 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: Chick's lawyer on this one, and I'm gonna say, well, 351 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: we would have taken Kenyan Green Or's I on. We 352 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: didn't expect to be on the third guard by twenty nine. 353 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: We had all retrade down once. Do you remember ten 354 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: years ago when Travis Frederick went thirty one and every 355 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,479 Speaker 1: and killed him. But if he'd went thirty three, nobody 356 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: would have cared, and he went on the many Pro 357 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: Bowls and that's all swell. But I don't think Cold 358 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 1: Strange is that guy. Though. I don't think Cold Strange 359 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: is that guys. And I like Strange, right, I mean 360 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: he's around later at least yeah, yeah, yeah, I have 361 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: a problem with that. At thirty that the Chiefs didn't 362 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: take George Carl Loftus. That's probably an easy pick for them, 363 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: unless they considered reaching on a receiver. Thirty one, the 364 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: Bengals go Dax Hill. Do we like good value there? Yep? Um? 365 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: They they Mike Hilton's making a lot of money. Yes, 366 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 1: that's interesting to me too. He's not going to be 367 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: the plug in place. I want to say, yeah, I 368 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: want to see what they do because they drafted three safeties. Yes, Shane, 369 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: he only played maybe three at most, and one of 370 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: him is a franchise player and one they've got a friendly. 371 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: They've got a franchise Uh, you know they franchise the 372 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: free safety. So what are they One of these guys 373 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: is gonna play cornerback? Right? What's the Nebraska guy? To 374 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: me is more corner than safety. Yeah? Um? Does that 375 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: mean they don't think they can keep Bates or they're 376 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: not going to offer him as a real contract you 377 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: know a year from now? Well this looks better. And 378 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,239 Speaker 1: it also crossed my mind because I had penciled them 379 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: in as a corner I thought they'd be elam Booth, 380 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: one of those type of guys. As much as we 381 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: love Dax Hill, maybe that's what they think of him. 382 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: Maybe they think he's just an outside corner despite being 383 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: called a safe Yeah, no, that could certain maybe case. Yeah, 384 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: maybe we're just again throwing a bunch of guys at 385 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: one position that was a problem for you and hoping 386 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: it gets better. Give me the best defensive back on 387 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: the board. Yeah. Yeah. At thirty two, then the Vikings 388 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: who had moved back, take Louis scene, which I have 389 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: no problem with. I thought he was a really good 390 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: player too. Yeah, and they have a lot of picks 391 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: at this point they moved back substantially. They were what 392 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: twelve the third from twelve thirty two. Yeah, so yeah, 393 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: they know more is to come, So just give me 394 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: a leader and a tough guy that works for me. Yeah, 395 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: so that's the first round. Some surprises. They're kind of 396 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: looking at how things went there. Matt and I are 397 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: going to take a break and we come back. We're 398 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: gonna do something that's a little bit even more in 399 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: Matt's wheelhouse. We're gonna give you who are the top 400 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: uh fantasy guys in terms of dynasty coming out of 401 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: this traft. We'll do that when we come back right 402 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: after this. I'm Dale Lally. He is Matt Williamson you're 403 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: listening to the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.