WEBVTT - Is Anyone Going To Talk About The Denver Nuggets?

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<v Speaker 1>You're tuned into Heat Check with Triste Quick.

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<v Speaker 2>On this episode of the Heat Check, we're back in studio, folks.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a new year and the NBA. NBA is

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<v Speaker 3>out of control right now, like it just really is.

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<v Speaker 3>Things are happening, So we're going to get into it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna get into the best team in the NBA

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<v Speaker 2>that nobody gives.

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<v Speaker 3>A fuck about. It's Denver Nuggets.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, has anyone said a peep about the Denver Nuggets

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<v Speaker 2>number one team in the West. No, has anybody said

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<v Speaker 2>a peep about Yolk that she's playing better basketball than

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<v Speaker 2>he has in the two years that he won the MVP. No,

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<v Speaker 2>why cause it's he's he's fat, and he's foreign and

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<v Speaker 2>they're in Denver. We talk also about who's the blame

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<v Speaker 2>in Minnesota, why things are a little bit tilted in.

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<v Speaker 3>Boston, And we're not just talking about the rims.

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<v Speaker 2>We are talking about what's happening with the team, and

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<v Speaker 2>a little news on the pair of the league's biggest

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<v Speaker 2>young superstars, Luca and Jaw.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, Nick, do me a favorite drop that generic

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<v Speaker 3>ass beat. Let's start with the Nugs. Let's start with them.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have Nikola Jokic right, the reigning two time

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<v Speaker 2>MVP in a season with historic performances so far from

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<v Speaker 2>Tatum kd Joannice and beat Shay Yogis Alexander jaw and

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<v Speaker 2>Jokic still may be the best player in the league

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<v Speaker 2>again again, But you didn't see that one coming. Shout

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<v Speaker 2>out to Jeremy Renner, go well soon, Jeremy Renner. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>as an aside, if you don't have a truck that

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<v Speaker 2>can plow snow, don't plow snow with that truck. Heads

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<v Speaker 2>up to that three time MVP for Jokic. Could he

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<v Speaker 2>be a three times back to back to back like

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<v Speaker 2>Drake MVP? Like probably, Let's be real, like Jokic statistically

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<v Speaker 2>better than he was last year, statistically better than he

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<v Speaker 2>was the year before. And this time the Nuggets aren't

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<v Speaker 2>the four seed folks, They're not the sixth seed folks.

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<v Speaker 2>Where where are the Nuggets in the standings?

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<v Speaker 3>Checks notes? Number one in the West?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And nobody cares his last game against the best team

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<v Speaker 2>in the NBA so far with the number one rank

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<v Speaker 2>defense in the NBA thirty twelve and twelve and get this,

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<v Speaker 2>zero turnovers and one foul. That is an average game

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<v Speaker 2>right now for Nikola jokicch that no one watches. He

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<v Speaker 2>had his ninth triple double this year, nine triple doubles.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like the big white fat Russell Westbrook and no

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<v Speaker 2>one is talking about it. Twenty seventh game shooting fifth

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<v Speaker 2>percent from the field?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you serious? Are we like? If you were.

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<v Speaker 2>Honest with yourself, how many games have you watched of

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<v Speaker 2>Nikola Jokic's this year?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it? Is it less than five? Can you count

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<v Speaker 3>them on one hand? Can you count them on two fingers?

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<v Speaker 3>Be honest, you're doing yourself a disservice.

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<v Speaker 2>I know they don't play if you're on the East Coast,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't play at a great time. They don't. You're

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<v Speaker 2>probably night Night's sleep mask. But you probably need a

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<v Speaker 2>DVR where you probably need to just stay up a

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<v Speaker 2>little longer because it's ridiculous what he's doing. It's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm saying it to myself as well, because I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't watched a ton of Jokic primetime games. Why because

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA won't put him in primetime. It's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>He has the highest player efficiency rating in the history

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<v Speaker 3>of the NBA last year and he's actually better this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a peep on ESPN, not a peep on First Take,

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<v Speaker 2>not a peep on this disputed, not a people on

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<v Speaker 2>NBA TV.

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<v Speaker 3>No one seems to care.

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<v Speaker 2>No one seems to notice enough to care, And that

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<v Speaker 2>I think is why he's the perfect star for the Nuggets,

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<v Speaker 2>because just like people still sleeping on him, no one

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<v Speaker 2>giving the Nuggets.

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<v Speaker 3>Any love either.

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<v Speaker 2>None, not on this podcast, not today lead story, on

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast. We are absolutely going to give him and

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<v Speaker 2>this team their flowers. What is happening with the Nuggets

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be redlined because this is a team that

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<v Speaker 2>is just possibly possibly could win at all what they're

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<v Speaker 2>doing right now. And I know the non Jokic minutes

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<v Speaker 2>are ugly, so things are gonna change there.

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<v Speaker 3>But after starting fourteen and.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten with Jamal Murray struggling to come back into form,

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Porter Junior struggling to be healthy on any level,

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<v Speaker 2>the Nuggets are ten and two since then, with the

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<v Speaker 2>league's eighth best defense, They had the set best defense

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<v Speaker 2>in their five game win streak. They currently still have

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<v Speaker 2>the best defensive rating in clutch time, Yes, when it

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<v Speaker 2>matters most, they are locking folks down, and that is

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<v Speaker 2>just absolutely wild, considering that Jokic is zero defensive love.

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<v Speaker 2>People actually consider Jokic to be a negative defender. People

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<v Speaker 2>consider Jokic to be a liability on defense, a joke

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<v Speaker 2>if you will on defense boom. Yet yet every year

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<v Speaker 2>his defensive rating continues to improve. Michael Malone went on

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<v Speaker 2>a rant last April when he said, yeah, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>say Jokic is not an elite defender. All of the

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<v Speaker 2>analytics that they use for other players, When you apply

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<v Speaker 2>those same analytics to Nicole Jokic, he would be an

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<v Speaker 2>all defensive player. Nate Silver at five point thirty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>who I love because he's a nerd and he does

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<v Speaker 2>all the work for me. He crunched the data and

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<v Speaker 2>said that Jokic could have and probably should.

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<v Speaker 3>Have been defensive Player of the Year.

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<v Speaker 2>Last year, or at least in the conversation, not a

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<v Speaker 2>single person mentioned that we had Marcus fucking Smart, no

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<v Speaker 2>shade to him, Marcus fucking Smart when the defensive player

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<v Speaker 2>of the Year for no reason. He wasn't even the

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<v Speaker 2>best defender on his own team. Okay, like not even close.

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<v Speaker 2>Rob Williams should have won it over him, just on

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<v Speaker 2>the team the best defensive Player of the Year in

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<v Speaker 2>Boston was not Marcus smart Let alone in the NBA

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<v Speaker 2>just slept on this team. Djokis in general slept on,

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<v Speaker 2>but so are a lot of the other Nuggets as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about a player who I have hated on

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<v Speaker 2>and it stops now.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not just a dunker.

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Gordon this year is absolutely insane. Having a career

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<v Speaker 2>year right now. Aaron Gordon averaging seventeen points per game,

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<v Speaker 2>six point six rebounds per game, shooting sixty percent from

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<v Speaker 2>the field.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about how.

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<v Speaker 2>He's transformed the game, because during his time in Orlando

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<v Speaker 2>that nobody really remembers or cares about. The only thing

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<v Speaker 2>you remember is is him dunking over the mascot.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's be honest. With short hair.

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<v Speaker 2>Like six and a half seasons in Orlando, he never

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<v Speaker 2>eclipsed league average in true shooting percentage, never fifty three percent,

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen point eight points lower than this year's mark. That's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>He has improved in every way. According to Cleaning the Glass,

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<v Speaker 2>a career high sixty three percent of his shots are

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<v Speaker 2>at the rim this season, which is in the one

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<v Speaker 2>hundredth percentile among forwards. He's shooting seventy six percent around

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<v Speaker 2>the rim ninety fourth percentile. Dude has become so versatile.

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<v Speaker 2>He's changed his game so much, so immensely. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>shoot pull ups anymore. He slashes more. He's using his

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<v Speaker 2>size more down in the pain.

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<v Speaker 3>Like he's basically.

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<v Speaker 2>Said, Okay, I am bigger, stronger, faster, and more bouncy.

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<v Speaker 2>So why am I shooting jumpers again? Like why am

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<v Speaker 2>I doing that? These guys can't guard me? And it's working.

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<v Speaker 2>He has redefined its play style to do what his

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<v Speaker 2>gifts allow him to do. Right, don't shoot those mid

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<v Speaker 2>ranges anymore. Just literally post guys up and dunk over them.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what you do. Rebound over them, dunk over them,

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<v Speaker 2>push guys around. So should Aaron Gordon be an All Star?

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<v Speaker 2>Why is he not getting enough praise? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Let bones Hyland say what he thinks.

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<v Speaker 4>This is definitely one of the best seasons or the

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<v Speaker 4>best season, not seeing you know, from ag play by far.

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<v Speaker 4>His numbers prove it. He goes out there and give

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<v Speaker 4>his all on both ends of the floor, whether that's

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<v Speaker 4>Guarden the best player, or you know on the other end,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, scoring, rebounding, assaysts, so you know, he does

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<v Speaker 4>the junk yard work for us, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>he doesn't get a lot of praise. So you know,

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<v Speaker 4>ag definitely All star for.

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<v Speaker 3>Show for show. What is uh?

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<v Speaker 2>What does Jokic think about Aaron Gordon? Because this comment shocked.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, Like he's the guy who doesn't maybe get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of credit, but he's a really big part of

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<v Speaker 1>this team, you know, Like I said that he's the

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<v Speaker 1>soul of this team.

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<v Speaker 3>Pause, the soul of the team.

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<v Speaker 2>Two time MVP says, Oh, yeah, Aaron Gordon's the soul

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<v Speaker 2>of our team.

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<v Speaker 1>If didn't make any sense because he can do everything

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<v Speaker 1>on the floor, and I mean he has a night

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<v Speaker 1>like that like today, it's really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, the dunk of the year. Did you see what

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<v Speaker 2>he did to Landry Shametta on Christmas Day? Haven't talked

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<v Speaker 2>to you all since then. I think we had the

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<v Speaker 2>New Year's Day episode, but I didn't have time to

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<v Speaker 2>be talking about Aaron gordon dunks, So, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>though the soul of the team, you can legit say

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Gordon should be most improved player this year. I

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<v Speaker 2>know it's gonna be Shae because he was so good

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<v Speaker 2>last year and the numbers that he's putting up. But honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>he could legit win it. He should be in the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>This is ridiculous what he's doing. Also, a little fun fact,

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Gordon and the have both shot fifty percent or

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<v Speaker 2>better from the field every single game since before Halloween.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what January two, twenty two consecutive games. That is

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<v Speaker 2>the longest streak of any duo shooting better than fifty

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<v Speaker 2>percent since nineteen ninety.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's move on past or Aaron Gordon and Jokich.

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<v Speaker 2>Bruce Brown has been great twenty points against the Celtics

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<v Speaker 2>off the bench, replacing Jamal Murray. KCP has been a

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<v Speaker 2>spark as well. He's been really really good. Bones Highland

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<v Speaker 2>has emerged. If you if you didn't see him send

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<v Speaker 2>Sam Hauser to the shadow realm against the Celtics, you

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<v Speaker 2>should look at that. He missed the three, which made

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<v Speaker 2>it like really sad because if he would have, if

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<v Speaker 2>he would have hit that, that would have just been

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe an all time NBA moment of this season.

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<v Speaker 2>He also got into a little battle with Jalen Brown,

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<v Speaker 2>tripped him to the floor. They beat the shit out

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<v Speaker 2>of the Celtics, like they beat them down. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of intensity that you want from your role players,

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<v Speaker 2>from your young players. Also, Jamal Murray, Michael Porter Junior

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<v Speaker 2>starting to slowly acclimate themselves back from injury when they

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<v Speaker 2>get back fully healthy.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>I know we don't think about the Nuggets in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of them accomplishing anything on any level because they're the Nuggets.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think this is a finals team, Like this

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<v Speaker 2>could be a team very easily that has home court

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<v Speaker 2>when you've got multiple teams struggling like the Warriors. You've

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<v Speaker 2>got Memphis having their own depth issues, You've got the

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<v Speaker 2>Pelicans kind of up and down. The Suns have been

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<v Speaker 2>garbage on the road. Like this is a team that

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<v Speaker 2>legit when fully healthy, especially if they make some moves

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<v Speaker 2>at the deadline, which we'll talk about in just a second.

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<v Speaker 2>This could be a team legitimately representing the West. And

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<v Speaker 2>they're all in on Jokic. They know he's legendary in

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<v Speaker 2>his prime. They are not They're not talking Western.

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<v Speaker 3>Conference finals only. They want to win it all. This

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<v Speaker 3>is what coach Malone said.

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<v Speaker 2>For us to be first place in the West, having

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<v Speaker 2>beat some really good teams as of late because of

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<v Speaker 2>our defense is a good sign. So if you can

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<v Speaker 2>do this for nine games with the schedule that we've had,

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<v Speaker 2>that shows it. If you can have the number one

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<v Speaker 2>clunch defense in the NBA, it shows it. We've got

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<v Speaker 2>the personnel right now. Basically, you just have to execute

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<v Speaker 2>night after night after night and not allow the Sacramento

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<v Speaker 2>Kings to shoot seventy five percent from the field the

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<v Speaker 2>fourth quarter. So the rumors are that the Nuggets are

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<v Speaker 2>going to go after another wing defender, try to find

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<v Speaker 2>another Aaron Gordon to add a depth, add to their versatility,

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<v Speaker 2>helping non Jokic minutes, to have maybe a playmaker as well,

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<v Speaker 2>like Malcolm Brogden type, maybe like I don't know, like

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Conley. You add that to a healthy Nuggets team, like,

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<v Speaker 2>watch the fuck out. I think the Nuggets might be

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<v Speaker 2>the most slept on team in the NBA. And if

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<v Speaker 2>the response to Jokic's back to back MVP is any indication,

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<v Speaker 2>I think even if this team were to win it all,

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<v Speaker 2>the Nuggets would still not get the credit they deserve,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is a damn su